It’s probably coming out this year. Nintendo has until 2024 to capitalize on PS5 shortage and they won’t miss out on the 2022 holiday sales. From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
Can’t wait to get mine
Switch Pro
It’s probably coming out this year. Nintendo has until 2024 to capitalize on PS5 shortage and they won’t miss out on the 2022 holiday sales. From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
Can’t wait to get mine
Not likely. If anything they will be releasing a Switch 2 with BOTW 2 next year.
>Switch Pro
>Switch 2
What's the difference. They can make their new console backwards compatible, capable of running the same games but at a higher resolution and framerate. And then after a few years they drop support for the old Switch and focus exclusively on the new console.
You know, exactly what both Sony and Microsoft have been doing for the last two years.
The reason so many """""leaks""""" are saying Switch Pro instead of Switch 2 is because if they say "Switch Pro" and they release Switch 2, they can and will just pretend like the Switch Pro was in fact just the Switch 2 all along. But if they """""leak""""" Switch 2 and they just release an updated model of the Switch, then they'll look bad. Or worse anyway.
I really have no idea why people entertain these cold read scam artists at all.
>scam artists
What are they even scamming, likes on Twitter?
do you live under a rock?
It already got announced. Here's that Switch Pro you wanted. Relesing this August!
Did you buy an OLED or something? Why buy a console at the end of its life cycle with a screen that’s 1 inch bigger lmao
Journalists have been saying that for 5 years now
What if Nintendo planned to release a Pro version from the beginning but with the unexpected success of the low-budget shitty tablet they decided to wait longer, wait longer, until the moment they understood that they didn't need anything stronger than the traditional model?
>nintendo
>giving a frick about performance as opposed to gimmicks
Anon. Nintendo aims at the normies and casuals first and foremost after the success of the DS and Wii.
Braindamaged schizo
It makes sense.
By the middle of the third year the Switch would probably need a boost, and a more powerful version for hardcore players would make the console sell a lot again.
But what happened is that Animal Crossing came in the middle of the third year and suddenly every motherfricker on Planet Earth who has never played a game in his life wanted to buy a Nintendo Switch...
The boost in sales was so big that Nintendo reworked all their strategies.
It doesn't make sense at all. Your moronic argument is that that there is a huge outcry in the market for a stronger Switch when it's actually a irrelevant vocal minority. When Switch OLED was announced last year, those people were asshurt but still ended up buying it.
I think it's more likely they never planned to make a pro version. We've gotten 2 different versions since release, and no one predicted either one of them. Every statement related to the plausibility of a Switch Pro in 2022 is pure copium by people who can't stand that Nintendo never once looked at the Switch the same way that they did.
This. Those morons continue to set themselves up for disappointment every single time by trying to force their own shitty standards onto Nintendo and acting as if they should act on those shitty standards.
Honestly the idea of a Switch Pro is ridiculous considering that the Steam Deck has a battery life of 30 minutes on maximum power. The Switch is built for portability and power efficiency, having more computing power on the switch would drain the batteries even harder than the current soc does.
That's what morons don't seem to understand. That Nintendo is more concerned about battery life and cost than they are about specs. If the tech that is offered to them kills the battery life and drives up the cost to where they are not comfortable in marketing to the consumers, then obviously they will not go for it.
Orin NX can match the 10W TDP of the T210 (original Switch) with approximately 4x the performance and on-chip Tensor cores. There's a lot to be gained from moving up to new tech.
There isn't you tech addicted loser. Most people do not care.
The insides of the Steam Deck are just old laptop parts slapped together with most of Valve's old ideas. There is nothing to suggest that the collective years and experience between Nvidia and Nintendo could not easily outperform the Steam Deck in efficiency and performance.
>are just old laptop parts
Which old laptops are using Zen 2?
>just old laptop parts
When the Deck launched, there were ZERO RDNA2 laptops on the market.
>collective years and experience between Nvidia and Nintendo
They're just gonna use a slower version of Orin, which is a ARM CPU + Ampere GPU. So it's not gonna be faster than the Deck.
>So it's not gonna be faster than the Deck.
From the Nvidia hack we know Switch 2 will have 3x as many shaders as Deck and no problem hitting 2TF+ while Deck struggles with 1.3TF.
Like that anon said, Deck uses laptop parts stuffed into a small case which causes it to choke. Switch 2 will use a mobile SoC optimized for it.
We also know (from the hack) Switch 2 SoC is customized compared to regular Orin. Orin has 1 RT core per 2 SMs while Drake has 1 RT core per 1 SM., for example.
And I forgot to mention DLSS which will allow Switch 2 to render games at half the resolution to free the performance then DLSS them to better res than Deck
>Shaders
>Teraflops
You can't compare completely different architectures like that. The moment someone starts mentioning teraflops, I know they have no idea what they're talking about and they're only trying to sound smart.
Just watch some benchmarks, see how RDNA2 and Ampere perform at low power. Compare the GTX 2050 (it's Ampere, despite the name) to the 680M: Nvidia is only slightly faster, despite using much more power and dedicated VRAM.
Ampere and RDNA2 may be close at 300W, but AMD easily wins at low wattages. It's not even close.
>laptop parts stuffed into a small case which causes it to choke
RDNA2 performs well at low wattages, there's no choking. The Phawx tested this ( https://youtu.be/gxKd0nr6uYw?t=908 ) and performance keeps up until 7-9W.
See how the 1165G7 drops super hard when it goes from 10 to 9 watts, and then again from 8 to 7 watts? That's choking.
>mobile SoC optimized for it
No, it uses a machine learning SoC that has nothing to do with videogames.
>Switch 2 SoC is customized compared to regular Orin. Orin has 1 RT core per 2 SMs while Drake has 1 RT core per 1 SM
Wrong, see pic. The "customization" will be less cores, less memory and lower frequency.
Sure, DLSS will be great at 4K. It won't do shit in handheld mode.
Games may end up looking better on the Switch 2, not because of hardware but because it's a console. The Deck on the other hand is some kind of Linux abomination that runs bad PC ports through a Windows translation layer.
In terms of pure hardware performance, the Switch 2 won't be faster.
>Compare the GTX 2050 (it's Ampere, despite the name) to the 680M:
T239 is a mix of Ampere and Lovelace, as Maxwell 750ti had some bits of Pascal
Also include console optimizations, it will be weaker than SeS/PS4 Pro, but better than PS4
>T239 is a mix of Ampere and Lovelace
Not according to that Kopite tweet I posted earlier.
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1498826833001066498?lang=en
>Maxwell 750ti had some bits of Pascal
You completely made this up, it's just Maxwell. The 750Ti came out in 2014, months BEFORE the actual Maxwell line-up (970, 980)... but somehow it had "some bits" of Pascal?
>but better than PS4
Considering the Deck is neck and neck with the PS4 in terms of GPU performance, I doubt it.
>Also include console optimizations
I already mentioned this, yes.
"Games may end up looking better on the Switch 2, not because of hardware but because it's a console. The Deck on the other hand is some kind of Linux abomination that runs bad PC ports through a Windows translation layer."
The CPU runs at 1.8-2.5GHz in 99% of games, it sips power compared to the GPU. Most of the power budget goes to the GPU.
?t=45 Look at the top left here, see how much the CPU consumes? It rarely goes above 5W.
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1403200552473829377?s=20
>ada lovelace
As for 750ti, i mixed up things. It was first Maxwell, during Kepler arch.
>Kopite
See pic. The tweet I posted is much more recent: Drake is cut down Orin, that's the most recent information we have.
Can he be wrong? Sure, half the stuff he says is wrong. But it's more likely he was even more wrong a year ago compared to now. Or maybe he wasn't wrong at all, Nvidia and/or Nintendo changed plans due to chip constraints, who knows.
>750Ti
Kepler came out in 2012, the 750Ti came out in 2014. The 900 series also came out in 2014.
The 750Ti isn't not a mix of Kepler and Maxwell, it's just normal Maxwell with the "wrong" name. Why they launched it two quarters earlier, I have no idea: I assume it's because it was such a small die, it was easier to produce? And then they called it GTX 700 instead of 900 to avoid damaging the launch of the bigger cards later that same year.
You didn't even click on the video, it mostly stays below 2W. But I kept the number high on purpose to avoid any "ACTUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THREE MINUTES AND ELEVEN SECONDS..." on your part.
Also, yes, the Switch uses 10W as a whole. And it's safe to assume the next one is going to use the same wattage, or they would have to make it bigger and/or more expensive. But for some reason, despite the inferior GPU architecture AND lower wattage, you believe it's gonna be faster than the 15W Deck?
And I'll say it for the third time, it's a CONSOLE. The Switch is a tablet from 2015, and it runs Mario Odyssey; the PS4 is a garbage PC from 2013 and it runs TLoU2. Even if on paper the Deck is twice as strong, I guarantee you, there will be quite a few games that run better on the Switch 2.
To quote Carmack: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/436012673243693056
More recently, someone at Microsoft said that even the most optimized PC games "waste" at least 30% of the hardware performance compared to a console.
>Sure, half the stuff he says is wrong
https://www.igorslab.de/en/what-the-leaks-are-to-nvidias-new-cards-eyes-and-why-kopite7kimi-are-sometimes-wrong/
> It rarely goes above 5W.
The Switch draws way less than 10W as a whole. That's majority of the power budget.
Nice of you to completely ignore the ancient x86 architecture that bogs the Deck down when it comes go performance per watt. Hyperfocusing on GPU performance is just as stupid as talking about FLOPs.
I predicted both of them.
>and a more powerful version for hardcore players would make the console sell a lot again.
the stupidest and most misinformed post of the thread
It turns out that Nintendo has done this before.
Probably, but my initial post is only to consider a hypothesis. Sony for example did this with the PS4 early in the third year of the console and Nintendo with the Nintendo 3DS early in the fourth year, so it's not like it's something totally alien that no one at Nintendo ever even considered.
Not for home consoles you autist. Switch is both but has been "evolving" similar to it's handheld predecessors and even then, not all of those handheld revisions had games that took full advantage of those new specs.
Therefore it's a pointless venture.
I think it's really funmy that everyone cites the New 3DS when it comes to justify Nintendo considering the Switch Pro, but nobody once used the 2DS to speculate that Nintendo might eventually release a Switch that doesn't switch. Just goes to show that people only ever look for the signs that confirm their biases, and ignore anything else.
>I think it's really funmy that everyone cites the New 3DS when it comes to justify Nintendo considering the Switch Pro, but nobody once used the 2DS to speculate that Nintendo might eventually release a Switch that doesn't switch.
I think there were some people who speculated that a smaller more handheld Switch would release at some point in Switch's life. We just got it early on.
I could be wrong, but if they did then they didn't leave much of an impression. It stands to reason though, since you wouldn't hear speculating for a long time given that it's already happened.
I do agree that there are plenty of those people who adhere to their biases and choose to ignore other truths that would be an inconvenience to their deluded theories. The Switch Pro idiots are definitely guilty of this.
>but nobody once used the 2DS to speculate that Nintendo might eventually release a Switch that doesn't switch.
Yes they did, and they were right about that, just like the people will inevitably be right about the pro revision.
You keep telling yourself that all the way into 2024. You morons have been saying a Pro would be coming since like 2019. Then it got "delayed" to 2020 and then "delayed" again to 2021.
>You keep telling yourself that all the way into 2024.
I will, and it will keep making you seethe.
>5 years claiming the same thing
Lmao. Braindead schizo.
They're not releasing the successor when the Switch is still in it's mid cycle you fricking idiot.
>>5 years claiming the same thing
Did he now. And what else did the man do?
How does it feel that you have been sperging out about a mythical device for a good number of years? You sound unwell in the head.
>How does it feel that you have been sperging out about a mythical device for a good number of years?
I have?
>Switch still in its mid cycle
Kek the cope is so strong in this one
>the words of the president don't count because I say so!
Lol. Fatass schizo. Wait for 2024 like a good boy for a new Switch.
Kek bro the president of Nintendo is shilling their product on its last leg. Do you expect him to say “switch days are over don’t buy the OLED” ?
Like I said COPE harder
>Kek bro the president of Nintendo is [headcanon and cope]
Yawn
no it doesnt, you only 'want' a switch pro because some random leaker said so, and they always wrong.
I really don't give a damn about the Switch. I bought mine for very specific games (Mario Maker 2, Tetris 99, A-Train, Dragon Quest Definitive Edition) and I have played over 1000 hours of these four games combined. Today I no longer use the console and I think a Pro version would be complete moronic since within two years at most people will want the new Nintendo console.
Then frick off from the thread then. Your moronic input isn't needed.
This is not your safe space, sperg.
We don't need morons like you giving out stupid ass "business analysis" posts.
Still triggered?
Your analysis is wrong because it puts way too much emphasis on performancegays. They are the vocal minority.
You never know. The same sources that said Nintendo had a "pro" version of the console also said there was a "mini" version of the console a year before the Switch Lite was announced. It is quite possible that one of the projects moved forward while another was delayed/canceled.
Your analysis was moronic and those "sources" were wrong. Get over it.
Switch pro holiday 2023.
Except it's not at the end of it's life you braindead child.
>Why buy a console at the end of its life cycle
It's cheaper and actually has games
>it has games
>never any threads about the games except zelda shit
Weird.
Unironically go outside and touch grass. The schizo seethe threads on Ganker don’t mean shit. Do you actually think Ganker threads are a good way to gauge a console’s library?
DAMN BROS WHERE'S MY GAMECUBE PRO? WHERE'S THE WII PRO? WHERE'S THE WII U PRO?
UM THEY CAME OUT. DID YOU NOT KNOW?! REMEMBER 64DD?
>2017
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>2018
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>2019
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>2020
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>2021
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>2022
>Switch Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
>07/22
>Switch Pro soon Ganker schizo says so!
If you want a switch pro so badly go get a steam deck
>half a decade and counting
605572268
moron
Switch emulation on the Steam Deck isn’t great anon.
Not for Nintendo its not!
>Switch emulation on the Steam Deck isn’t great anon.
It's not great anywhere. Switch emulation is massively overhyped by console war shitposters. Probably half the library is simply unplayable, and a lot of the others still have serious problems. Very few of the games run nearly flawlessly.
Given that Wii U and 3DS emulation is still in pretty shitty shape after a decade I'm gonna guess that switch emulation will never be good.
Dolphin was an outlier and now everyone expects that level of quality from an emulator but it never happens anymore.
There are unironically only 4-5 games that anyone wants to play, and the community has made those 4-5 games work well.
Saying "half the library" doesnt work doesnt actually matter. Nobody is emulating a multiplat switch NSP.
>There are unironically only 4-5 games that anyone wants to play
Name them
Thats not how this works.
If you are whining that "half of the library" doesnt work, its up to you to list a whole bunch of unmissable switch exclusives which somehow people cant get running.
At least 80% of their top 20 selling games
>get running
Oh so you're already moving the goal post as far back as "it loaded the title screen and one game mode"
for one, metroid works fantastic. Legends arceus worked fine too, I managed to play the game and finish it. That's two games people would want to play but maybe not pay for. I'm not the anon you replied and demanded data from, so i won't give you your 4-5 games. It shouldn't be that hard to check a top 10 list and google which 5 games works well on emu.
>There are unironically only 4-5 games that anyone wants to play, and the community has made those 4-5 games work well.
Some notable games that don't run great
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - rated "okay"
Smash Ultimate - rated "okay"
Luigi's Mansion 3 - rated "bad"
Mario Party Superstars - rated "okay"
XB2 - rated "okay"
Hyrule warriors AoC - rated "okay"
Some other notable games like Kirby and Arceus not even on the compatibility list I'm assuming because they run like shit.
And this doesn't even get into the fact that even the big games that do run very well will still occasionally have issues, so it's virtually always better on the real hardware.
>compatibility lists for OOTB experiences
Look at the guy who hasnt ACTUALLY tried to emulate stuff before
No moving the goalposts, im not throwing technicalities out.
I dont have to, because play-ability in all of the big name games is more than playable.
The bar the emulation scene sets is always very high, with no hiccups at all with higher than original FPS and graphics mods in mind.
Half of the normies that own a switch wouldnt even know the difference between an "okay" rated OOTB game with no tweaks and the real hardware.
>The bar the emulation scene sets is always very high
No it isn't
>Half of the normies that own a switch wouldnt even know the difference between an "okay" rated OOTB game with no tweaks and the real hardware
I'm sure they would probably notice when none of the games they play work
->
You can continue to pretend they dont work well, but its just not true in objective reality.
Sorry you didnt get an actual hardware rehash, but just an Oled screen replacement. But its not making the switch any harder to emulate.
I am so sorry you can not continue a discussion without flinging ad hominems every other sentence. As it stands Switch emulation is less than acceptable and hardly any switch game runs well, even on high end PCs.
What do you guys think about this song?
Reminds me of Jackass
>so it's virtually always better on the real hardware
Yeah this definitely looks great on the real hardware, people emulating AoC don't know what they're missing
Have there been Warriors games that actually kept their frame rate to 60 or above?
On PC or in general? From what I've seen, Dynasty Warriors 8 runs at stable 60 on the Steam Deck, but something like Pirate Warriors 3 which is an ancient game at this point runs in the mid 40s on the Deck (and even struggles on my old mid-range PC).
>Probably half the library is simply unplayable
Why don't you go try it for yourself... No one wants to hear your desperate attempt at gaslighting with folk wisdom
>I'm gonna guess that switch emulation will never be good.
Why don't you go look at the code and find ways to improve it then?
Just so someone told you, the way you're talking here makes it abundantly clear that you have no skills or even knowledge to contribute, and it appears to be a general personality trait. That's the only type of person who talks like you.
Educate yourself and acquire some skills or you'll remain at the bottom of the barrel forever.
And heil Hitler
Way to spaz out over nothing. My post was not meant to be an attack on the people making an emulator, because they're unpaid volunteers and so the fact they even make an emulator at all is to be lauded as an accomplishment. My post was meant merely to acknowledge the reality that switch emulation is not in any way a replacement for the switch itself, and that the shitposters who say all Nintendo's exclusives can be emulated are making shit up.
>merely to acknowledge the reality that switch emulation is not in any way a replacement for the switch itself, and that the shitposters who say all Nintendo's exclusives can be emulated are making shit up.
This is cope from tendie fans who just hope and pray that their console wont be deprecated.
Why it bothers them that their games can be emulated is beyond me.
Besides, anyone who can afford a deck already owns a Switch and has played the paltry few games worth playing over 3 years ago.
I looked up the top 50 switch games 6 months ago and i only HEARD of six of the games and I've only seen people playing 2 of them. Mario party and smash bros.
Nintendo can be completely ignored with respect to video games and you can still have the time of your life
>Inb4 uh hello, I'm a homosexual and would like to tell you that you heard of the franchises on the list therefore you know the games
No homosexual, that's not what I meant
>already backpedaling
This can be a learning moment for you if you allow it.
>3DS emulation is still in pretty shitty shape
3DS emulation is just fine.
>3DS emulation is just fine.
My laptop struggles hard to run 3DS games at native resolution and it runs gamecube/wii games easily at 1080p.
Also looking at the compatibility list about 60% of tested games run "great" or better while around 40% are "okay" or worse (which means substantially worse than playing the real game). And these are just tested games. Many games probably don't have a test listed because they ran too shitty to bother.
I wouldn't call this amazing emulation.
Citra isn't horrible but it's definitely not great.
>My laptop struggles hard to run 3DS games at native resolution and it runs gamecube/wii games easily at 1080p.
What games?
My 5 year old laptop runs MH4U at 6x native res with locked 60fps and with HD texture mods that were made by the 4U community.
>My 5 year old laptop runs MH4U at 6x native res with locked 60fps and with HD texture mods that were made by the 4U community.
5 year old doesn't really say anything, it's the hardware that matters. But the last game I messed around with was New Leaf which ran like ass, and again I have no problem running Wii games at 1080p and that's a significantly stronger console.
I don't know what to tell you, just searching Youtube for New Leaf Citra gets close to a 100 videos of people running it just fine, some even go up to 2k-4k and use HD texture mods as well
Post specs of your toaster.
sure but when 90% of the library is ports of games that do run better on the deck + the ones that never got ported, seems like the deck's the better choice
Seems more like you're a fricking idiot to me.
>>2017
Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
Never happened
>>2018
Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
Never happened
>>2019
Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
Never happened
>>2020
Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
Never happened
>>2022
Pro soon Boomerberg says so!
Never happened
You'd have a point, if you weren't straight up lying out of your ass
I would buy that, if it was hackable without a mod chip.
Nah, according to Nintendo, there is no new hardware coming this year after they revealed this .
Come back next year.
>Smash 3DS XL gets announced
>New 3DS XL gets announced next month
Nintendo always did that.
Splatoon OLED only targets Splatoon fans.
Switch Pro will target all Switch owners and people who don't have a Switch yet
Then you say Nintendo lies?
>From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
hope you die a horrible death. theres no such thing as a switch pro. if that actually were the case, it would have been revealed last week as the supposed leak by the same moron who believes A NEWS SERVICE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY is even gonna be remotely right even after proving not being true for FIVE. WHOLE. YEARS!
have a nice day.
holy rent free
Never ever
NES (1983)
SNES (1990)
N64 (1996)
Gamecube (2001)
Wii (2006)
Wii U (2012)
Switch (2017)
The odds are it comes out this year or next year. I agree with OP probably later this year
>the wii u actually made it 5 years
Lol
It was really only 3 years. 1 year dead. 6 months waiting for switch
when's the last time nintendo just surprise announced a new console?
we knew about nx, cafe, revolution, dolphin, and reality years ahead of their actual releases
Just casually ignore the handheld side
what handheld side? They stopped handhelds since the switch is a handheld
I am still mad that Nintendo failed to present the Wii U properly. It is such an amazing console with great games in hindsight.
While some of the games were great, I do think during that era Nintendo simplified their game design too much in order to appeal to the casual audience who abandoned them for phones. It would have no doubt sold more consoles with better marketing but it was never gonna be a run away success like the switch without stuff like BotW, Mario Odyssey, Smash Ultimate, etc.
Honestly I think iwata being replaced also helped immensely as he clearly wasn't very good at business.
"great games"
five, maximum
>PS5 has sold 20 million units but there's somehow a shortage
>chip shortage is fricking over even car manufacturers
>"their is no shortage"
moron.
> shortage
Shelves of them collecting dust where I live, sounds made up.
That said, anybody who thinks Nintendo would cannibalize their own sales by releasing hardware now is moronic
Happening !!!
What exactly do you think the Oled Switch is anon?
The OLED is the XL. Which is what would've been skipped if a pro wasn't also coming.
The Switch successor is likely happening in 2024. It's too late for a Switch Pro.
>Thinking Nintendo wants to make the same mistake they made with the NES and SNES by launching a new console while first party software is still on the way for the old
And that's not taking into account the absolute state of the manufacturing sector.
There is no Switch Pro.
There is no PS5 shortage.
Nintendo will do just fine this holiday.
A next generation Nintendo console isn't happening until 2023 at earliest.
>new switch hardware
this could mean literally anything. switch 2, dock-only switch, switch lite oled, a new peripheral, hell even the splatoon bundle could count as new hardware
>It’s probably coming out this year.
2023 actually
>Nintendo has until 2024 to capitalize on PS5 shortage and they won’t miss out on the 2022 holiday sales.
Playstation is irrelevant since 2018
>From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
It would be moronic to already canabalize OLEDs sales a mere 1 year from launch when it is still selling well
You're a fricking idiot
Found another OLED cuck
Nope. I'm just a guy with a bachelors in business management who can easily spot people pretending to talk business.
>bachelors in business management
Hmmm ok..
Fiscal year I believe includes Q1 so it’s possible the Switch Pro comes out in Q1 2023 but Nintendo and Christmas go hand in hand
Nintendo = the most Family oriented console = Christmas
SNES November 21, 1990
GameCube November 5, 2001
Wii November 19, 2006
Wii U November 18, 2012
Look up the switch's release date. Check out OLED version's and lite's. Not Christmas.
it's 6 months left to a supposed botw 2 release that they've been aiming for, we're halfway through july, if they don't show us more footage by next week it's safe to say we're gonna see a march release for the switch pro with botw2.
I have a feeling they've been laying low with titles like botw2, bayo3, a new mario, etc to market those big games that can utilize a said switch pro. They're waiting to release the NEW 3DS/2DS variant of the switch.
They might have to because of the Steam Deck
Steam Deck isn't even sold in retail and is literally capped in sales, dumbfrick
Doesnt matter, press is press, and lots of press out of the blue have been calling the switch old and outdated because the Deck is a competitor thats far more powerful.
Like it or not, ninendo has been aggressive against videos and articles about the Deck emulating the switch.
Dont pretend like this isnt a huge thing.
Perception is reality, whether people were going to buy it or not.
I was talking to my father on the phone who has no video game knowledge at all, and he was asking me about the Deck because he saw an article about them getting stolen by Fedex guys.
>my headcanon
Lol. There is a cap in how much this product can sell.
It is not available in retail.
To obtain one you have to wait in a 6+ months long queue.
I like how you ignored the whole crux of the post.
Its either a deflection or extremely poor critical thinking and reading comprehension skills.
Not that I expected anything more out of you.
Because the crux of your post was fabricated hype backed by anecdotal evidence
>muh press
Lmao nobody gives a frick about the Deck, ask any normie about that shit they won't have any idea what the frick you're talking about. Deck is cool but it is in no way shape or form threatening Nintendo's market share.
>decks is released
>switch continues breaking sales records
>SEE DECK IS KILLING SWITCH!
Youd better pre order then! Get your switch pro today!
His mom confiscated his credit card
Literally whomst?
Steam deck will be successful but it will never damage the switch's sales. The fact that people think it will just because it's more powerful are willfully ignorant. The fact that Nintendo is still doing as well as it is should clue you into the fact that people don't just instantly flip. Steam deck is going to need a much larger supply and a green of a lot more publicity to even dent the switch's sales.
>They might have to because of the Steam Deck
Kek the Switch outsells Steam Deck by 1000:1 every month. Its not even marketed or sold in the same way as a commercial prodect like the Switch. That shit doesn't even show up on Nintendo's radar.
Nintendo execs didn't even consider the 360 during it's heyday, they sure as hell don't give a shit about the Steam Deck
>he think steam deck would kill Nintendo
Not even Valve are delusional enough to think like that. Steam Deck is meant to be a companion device to play your steam library on the go. If you bought a Steam Deck just to emulate Switch games, you are a colossal moron that should have a nice day.
Jurnos
>there will be a Pro?
Nintendo CEO
>No
Jurnos
>there will be Pro?
Nintendo CEO
>*keep silence because there is no point to answer to morons
Jurnos
>SWITCH PRO CONFIRMED GUYS, WE WON, TIEME TO CONSOOOOM
Gayming jurnos are clinically ill
Watching this collective moronation unfold has been fascinating. I don't understand where these people come from, it's like their first video game console was a PS4 and they have no idea about how console generations worked.
letting more and more normies into the market was a mistake
Normies don't give a shit about much specs and powerful consoles though. It's the autistic tech nerds who care about that shit and then you have shitty journos who help fan those flames because they know they'll be guaranteed clicks from those losers and then we now arrive to where we are today,
Normies exposers to tech is a new iphone releasing every month so of course they are expecting a switch pro at some point.
I figured that a switch pro would happen since there was precedent and the timing was right but then we got the OLED. Not a shocking move but that was the answer and the answer was "there will not be a switch pro." Anyone who still believes there will be is delusional.
> From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
I don't think you know shit about business. Consoles are usually sold at a loss
Nintendo sells the Switch at a profit
moron
its coming soon. I bet they will announce it in august and release it for Christmas to coincide with the new pokemon game. It's basically free money for Nintendo.
Don't reply to yourself
There is zero incentive to release a new switch and every incentive to wait as long as possible to drop in the chips with the best price/power consumption/profit margin possible. No point of a new console when games are still selling so well
Imagine thinking they won’t release the Switch Pro this Christmas for Holidays public realm domination
>he doesn't know
>Obliterated my crafty narrative
STOP!! YOU FILTHY TRAITORS!
Bro that got delayed to Spring 2023 like BOTW2.
>soon
Yes, as in 2023 like all rumors are claiming. Nintendo is not launching new hardware this year, idc how delusional you are it's a fricking filler year. Splatoon console is proof of this.
It goes with the pattern so far about a new Switch revision/variant releasing every 2 years or close to 2 years.
You people get more and more pathetic every year.
Nah it isn't coming this year. They just announced a Splatoon OLED model so the OLED is going to be their primary device for a while.
I think next year holiday they just release a new console with some cross gen support like PS5.
bro you lost again it's time to shut up until next year
since OP got BTFO, what Switch games did you guys get this year so far? what games do you plan to get later on this year?
The new Kirby game was fun. I also got Ai2 along with Mario Strikers. Will probably get Nier later on this year.
i finally decided to play metroid dread and it was kino
The Drake GPU leaked from Nvidia earlier this year. Looking at the tech inside, late 2023 makes the most sense (since getting an Orin to run in a switch without a die shrink feels really really unlikely). They'll probably announce it in January with the new 3D Mario. I don't think it's a coincidence that they delayed the Mario movie to next year.
theres nothing pro about playing on a fisher price device, kiddies. now excuse me while i game on my steam deck
enjoy emulting those amazing nintendo games on your steam deck!
How's the switch running on that baby?
Heard it runs pretty well. You playing anything?
But anon, I already own the “switch pro”.
Looks extremely comfy. Still waiting for whatever bullshit new switch because I'm a zeldagay and need botw2.
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>mfw people in this thread who unironically believe the splatoon reskin means that’s the only possible hardware release for 2022
Why in the frick would Nintendo release a Splatoon OLED model for this holiday season instead of a Splatoon Pro model?
Also I never see any of the pro expecters explain to me how exactly they're gonna get the Orin running in the switch without a die shrink when it takes way too much power and is too big. They need 5nm for the Drake to work, but 5nm isn't really available right now. They'd be elbowing into the ring with apple.
Why did they release a Cyberpunk PS4
Why reply to a shitpost?
>Why in the frick would Nintendo release a Splatoon OLED model for this holiday season
It releases in August.
>instead of a Splatoon Pro model?
Can you show me ONE hardware update that launched with a Limited Edition out of the gate? It's moronic. No one fricking does that.
Nintendo will have a hard time supplying regular Pro models and you expect them to produce a separate Limited Edition?
>how exactly they're gonna get the Orin running in the switch without a die shrink when it takes way too much power and is too big
1. It does run in the Switch as evidenced by the Nvidia hack from March.
2. Orin has many wariants, one of which is the 15W one
3. 15W Orin at 8nm should be just about the size of Tegra X1 from 2017
>Can you show me ONE hardware update that launched with a Limited Edition out of the gate?
>The system was released in Japan on October 11, 2014, in Australia and New Zealand on November 21, 2014, on January 6, 2015 in Europe in a special Club Nintendo-exclusive "Ambassador Edition"
> limited-edition Majora's Mask-themed New Nintendo 3DS XL launched Feb. 13 2015
>deliberately omitting the north american launch date and the non-meme european launch date so you can pretend to be right
I have omitted it because the fact is, new 3DS XL launched 4 months ahead of Majora's Mask special edition.
>goalpost moving so you can pretend to be right
>Says the one who first ommited the fact that new 3DS XL launched in Japan 4 months earlier to pretend to have a gotcha
lul
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You're not getting a Switch pro this year if ever
If I'm wrong I'm wrong
Will it play pc games?
There wont be a "New Switch U!", there will be some new system just in time to be sold out for Christmas 2024
if they do ill jut trade in my oled for it
>but why not keep it
why the frick do i need 2 switches?
Idiota
explain
yes, it's coming out this *fiscal* year
reveal sometime by late September
pre-orders opening in late December or early January
release in March
You like getting BTFO
>pre-orders opening in late December or early January
And decimating Nintendo's holiday sales? If it's announced this year it releases this year
it's better to lose some holiday sales than have another Wii->Wii U style disastrous transition
>it's better to lose some holiday sales than have another Wii->Wii U style disastrous transition
Anon, your idea would cause the latter not the former.
they should totally let the Switch brand die before releasing a successor
that's going to work 1000%
There's no Switch Pro.
It'll be Switch 2,and it's coming next year. Probably sooner than later.
>Switch 2
I think you mean the New Nintendo Switch
Nintendu SwUtch
Super Switch
>cant wait to buy my kids toy
honestly all tendie shit should be relegated to /toy/
>ps5 shortage
Even without the shortage there’s nothing to fricking play compare to my ps4
The 'Switch Pro' will be the Switch 2. The only way it could run 4K at all would be to have DLSS which requires the Tegra Orin which has only just been made widely available. You homosexuals forget the Tegra X1 which the original Switch is based was 2 years old by the time of the Switch's launch.
Once Orin is that age, it'll be 2024 and the end of the current Switch's lifespan so the Switch 2 can be a drop in replacement for it rather than to run alongside.
The Switch 2's GPU should be a bit newer than the switch's given the massive difference in money then vs now. Nintendo can afford more modern technology. Personally I'm expecting holiday 2023.
>implying Nintendo wasn't sat on a money pile when the Switch was developed
Look up their financials, even during downward eras like the Wii U, they have an insane amount of cash in reserve, hence they can take the risks when developing hardware and allow commercial failures like the GameCube and Wii U run their entire lifespans. The only reason Iwata and other execs took pay cuts to appease the shareholders and can be considered as a modern method of committing seppuku.
It's not about having more modern technology, it's about fleshing the tech out and having it as widely available as possible, cutting edge gear is neither. The internals of all consoles since the millennium are always a few years old before they launch for this very reason.
Not a bad idea in itself, although I can imagine that doesn't see the light of day given an extra GPU/CPU in the dock would increase production costs by quite a margin and severely limit production rates in the current chip supply frickery.
During the Wii U Nintendo had 7 billion cash on hand, which sounds like an enormous sum until you realize that they had 14 billion like 5 years earlier. I'm sure they weren't eager to bleed even more of their money. If the switch had flopped they may have actually hit bankruptcy at the rate they were dropping.
There was an enormous stock buyback in there when Yamauchi died
Regardless, I think people forget that Nintendo has an enormous operating expenditure. They literally need a couple billion in the bank just and have their systems/games/cartridges produced. So going deeply into reserves definitely isn't an option
moron
The Switch's main GPU doesn't have to do DLSS
They just filed a patent that suggests it might be a separate dock that processes the entire image. In which case they wouldn't need Orin, just a less powerful Tegra process that interfaces with some tensor cores in the dock
A 4k dock is a very interesting concept but not one that would work well in reality. It would have to cost like $200 and who is gonna pay that for a graphics upgrade on a fricking nintendo console?
The NX was envisioned as a family of systems much as it is now with the Original, Lite, OLED. There'd be multiple models since obviously a 4K dock isn't a necessity. I think they'd start out of the gate with at least 2 models, the only reason they didn't do that with the original is because there was serious doubt that it wouldn't bomb, so a single SKU was deemed best
>You homosexuals forget the Tegra X1 which the original Switch is based was 2 years old by the time of the Switch's launch.
Switch was supposed to launch in 2016 but got delayed for BotW.
>Once Orin is that age
You don't understand the difference between Nintendo shopping for the chip and ultimately settling for TX1, and developing the next Switch together with Nvidia from the start?
>Switch was supposed to launch in 2016 but got delayed for BotW
wasn't it the other way around?
If it's not announced by the end of the month that's unlikely.
March would be the next possible and most likely time.
Since the first fricking month the switch was released people keep talking about a switch pro. When will all of you homosexuals stfu already. Wasting everyone's time having to go past your shit and killing another, probably not good but better, thread
They're more likely to announce a Switch 2 next year. Nintendo is extremely rigorous about their 5-6 year system lifespans. There's no reason to delay BotW2 AGAIN unless they were retooling it for their next system.
>Nintendo is extremely rigorous about their 5-6 year system lifespans
lmao
The Wii was fricking printing money and they still pushed out the Wii U after 6 years.
the Wii was fricking dead when Wii U came out
The better example would be the ds.
The DS was still selling great numbers when the 3DS came out. In fact if Nintendo had just kept running the DS it probably would have outsold what the 3DS did in its first year.
There is a reason why Nintendo is so consistent with their hardware releases. They make money mostly off their games, and some of their games are one per console (Animal Crossing, Smash, Mario Kart, etc.). So they really cant push the new console back *that* much. They need to sell Mario Kart 9 at some point.
>The Wii was fricking printing money
No it wasn't. Year 5 (fourth full year) it only sold 15 million units. Year six it was below 10 million. Then year 7 WiiU was out.
By comparison Switch this year, year 6 (fifth full year) will easily top 20 million.
>By comparison Switch this year, year 6 (fifth full year) will easily top 20 million.
Not easily, no. Sales are down about 30% in Japan which if extrapolated globally would point to about 16-17m sales.
But I think they can pass 20m if they do a sale or bundle for the holidays, which seems likely to me.
>Sales are down about 30% in Japan which if extrapolated globally
>extrapolating sales of a single country globally
You're a special kind of moron, aren't you?
Why are you not grasping that Nintendo is pulling a fast one?
Even though the gameboy color had much better hardware and its own exclusive games, Nintendo still considered it a gameboy.
They're gonna do the same shit here.
The next console will be called the Super Nintendo Switch and Nintendo will consider it a continuation of the Switch, even though it's much more powerful with its own exclusives. That's what they mean when they say the generation will be much longer.
source or you're a schizo
I just gave you the source, the gameboy color. As I mentioned even though it was by all reasonable definition a new console, Nintendo called it a revision of the gameboy. It had much better hardware and a ton of exclusives. They didn't care. Same form factor, same name structure so it's not a new console in their mind.
>It had much better hardware and a ton of exclusives.
Slightly better hardware and a few exclusives, you mean.
Most with a GBC printed box are perfectly capable of playing on GB, they were just pushing their new hardware with the branding. Go ahead and play almost all Gen 1 and 2 GB Pokémon games on your GB, for example. Only Crystal and Puzzle Challenge require it.
To imply otherwise because of random graphical shit which doesn't even matter is to basically state that B2/W2 are DSi exclusives since they have not just graphical but gameplay content that required a DSi or 3DS.
But they're not, they're DS games just as Yellow, TCG, Pinball, Gold, and Silver are GB games no matter what the advertising/packaging said (and, in fact, only said it outside Japan in the case of Yellow).
It's pretty fricking obvious that the OLED was supposed to be a pro model but Nintendo had to abandon it during the chip shortage. It's too late in the gen to run a pro now. You want AT LEAST 2 years after a pro before you go with a new console, so it would lock them down to around an 8 year generation, which hasn't been done since the original gameboy.
>T-This time for sure g-guys
Don't you guys ever get tired of being wrong?
Can you imagine the fricking nintendies on suicide watch if Nintendo decided to a pull an Ouya and do a cloud based streaming game console. I can see Nintendo being moronic enough to try something like it.
>I can see Nintendo being moronic enough to try something like it.
People ascribe bad decisions that Nintendo made to the company as a whole when in reality they were all made by Iwata. The dude before him and Furukawa now never made any big stupid ass decisions. It was just Iwata coming up with moronic gimmicks and gambles. And the reason why is because Iwata was not a business man, he was a programmer. Furukawa is trained to run a major company, and he's obviously doing a great job of that.
>pull an Ouya and do a cloud based streaming game console
That's sony's next step ironically
>Nintendo decided to a pull an Ouya and do a cloud based streaming game console
It would be a feasible strategy for Nintendo cuz the emulator can't emulate a cloud based streaming game. Tendies would be totally fine with this.
2 MORE WEEKS!
TRUST THE PLAN!
Switch doesn't have any games to justify a new model for.
>lots of rumors about switch pro being announced last summer
>"eh, might actually buy it if it's more powerful than the normal one"
>it's a fricking oled model, literally a nothingburger
>meanwhile valve announces steamdeck
>one year later I am playing nintendo games on my steamdeck for free and having lots of fun while the switch pro is still nowhere to be seen
Keep waiting lads, I'm sure the switch pro will definitely be announced soon.
OLED was the switch pro morons, the switch successor will release next year with BOTW 2 as a launch title.
A Switch, or more powerful console has to happen sooner or later, but it had better happen soon
If Nintendo does not want the Switch to go through something similar to the Wii U with almost no support for thirds, and have to skip many games at launch, or else release them as cloud-only versions
they won’t miss out on my birthday from a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide
t. Jesus
switch2 seems way more likely.
they can't, there isn't any fricking fab output and packaging an ampere chip for 2024 isn't even possible unless nintendo throws a frickton of cash at TSMC
switch 2 in 2025/26 at the earliest
>financial suicide
3 words
Persona
Pokemon
Splatoon
Whats a must for switch 2 if you're gonna buy it? For me, docked absolutely has to be at least 1080p 60fps. A nice bonus would be homescreen that you can actually customize
give it 2 more weeks dude
The very existence of the Lite and OLED were products released in years with limited editions Switch. So why would the possibility of a "Pro" version be out of the question?
Nah, Nintendo are cheap fricks so if they can keep selling outdated hardware for massive margins they will keep doing it until sales dry up.
It is going to come out one of these days and I will force you to apologize then
ok fine I'll schedule an apology meeting in 2030
Honestly hope if that whatever next system Nintendo makes they make sure their joysticks aren't the shittiest ones they could buy.
My prediction is that the "Switch 2" is gonna be an updated tablet and all the accessories (joycons, dock, pro controller...) are going to be exactly the same.
>From a business standpoint it’d be financial suicide to not do this.
what is the appeal of a switch pro when steam deck exists? I don't think there's gonna be many great switch games left where you need that extra performance
2017
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
2018
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
2019
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
2020
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
2021
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
2022
>switch pro is probably coming out this year
>no I won't comment on something I've already told you no on
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