>with VGC reporting that some third-party publishers don't want Nintendo's Switch successor to have backward compatibility, we ask Zelnick how much of a negative impact a feature like backward compatibility has on software sales for new systems.
"I'm not sure," he admits. "You need to give consumers what they want and optimize their experience, and you can't not deliver a feature you're able to deliver so as to maximize sales. That isn't fulfilling your contract with consumers. You have to do the very best you can for them. I suppose it's possible the lack of backward compatibility could enhance your revenue for a period of time, but at what cost?
"We're not a hardware manufacturer so we don't get to make those decisions. But I think if you can be compatible technically, then you want to be. However, in certain instances if the leap forward is great enough, that's not a possibility."
Source:https://twitter.com/MyNintendoNews/status/1689219879495147520
Source:https://www.gamesindustry.biz/take-two-growth-slows-with-anniversary-of-zynga-acquisition
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Slimely israelites want to double dip and sell ports for 70 dollars. Frick them! If its not backwards compatible I'm not buying one.
>that's not a possibility
never happened. every single time a console dropped backwards compatibility with the previous one, it was because of greed.
there's always options between emulation and physical adapters, and more often than not manufacturers decided to frick over the customer to save some pennies in materials
if the N64 played snes games, it would have succeeded
if the Dreamcast played saturn games, it might have succeeded
if the PS5 had PS2 and ps3 support, it would have sold better
lazy, greedy bastards. their short sightedness pushed millions towards pc gaming, piracy and emulation, dooming physical media and contributing to the modern live service hellscape
How was the switch going to play Wii U games?
Accessory drive simple as. I wish moronic EU would push legalization forcing these scum to provide it since games they sold can't be played after hardware is discontinued so all future hardware should be backward
Why not?
Completely different architectures. They would have to port every single game.
Could pump the price a little and provide wiiu hardware in switch stand. Doubt it's expensive.
It would've been very expensive. Realistically, the most consumer-friendly move they could've done would've been selling a DVD-reader accessory you connect to the Switch / dock. If you insert a Wii U disc, you can download the Switch version of that game from the eShop. The game is playable only if the disc is inserted, to prevent piracy.
It's because each Xbox generation is was faster than the previous one. Older consoles are just emulated, there's no hardware trick involved.
Sony could've done the same with PS1, PS2 and PS3, they didn't because it's more profitable to sell remasters and collections instead.
Same with Nintendo. Switch is fast enough to emulate GameCube and earlier, as well as all their handhelds with ease.
The build the new system from the ground up with this in mind, Xbox has no issue doing this
You can't exactly insert DVDs into the Switch, and Nintendo surely doesn't want to provide emulator compatability for millions of shovelware titles.
Digital releases were already a thing with the Wii U
There's not that much of a good argument for VC titles either, they don't have that many releases that it'd be a pain in the ass to emulate fricking SNES on a newer platform
>shovelware titles
so Xenoblades and Fire Emblems are not intended for Switch 2?
I assume the PS4 doesn't have PS3 BC because of the architecture, while the PS5 DOES have PS4 BC because of their similarity PS2 and PS1 native compatibility would be cool, but I doubt it'd improve sales, and it would also introduce false comparisons to Xbo's 'backward compatibility' which is actually running adjusted versions of the games you put into the disk drive that are downloaded and use the disk as a verification key. PS3 can emulate the PS2 and PS1, but hardware emulation was removed presumably due to costs. The DS line was already showing signs of form-factor getting in the way of BC with GBA games sticking out of the DS Lite, but BC was retained the next generation for DS games on the 3DS.
PS4 doesn't have PS3 BC because of the architecture
Not PSone too as remove CD playability.
Did the PS4 support the PS1 digitally as the Vita, PSP, and PS3 did at least? That's something to consider. I was never big on digital, so I didn't check when I had my PS4 plugged in.
That's interesting. A nice touch that I imagine makes emulation of GBA games far easier as well due to what might be native support.
Technically Eben the 3DS had hardware level BC for gba games. Though it lacked the cartridge slot it had an actual on board piece of hardware used for the GBA titles from the eshop
>if the PS5 had ps2 and ps3 support, it would have sold better
this is a complete lie
It would but not by much. Snoy shoot themselves with censor and LGBT shit.
Why isn't the Series kicking the PS5's ass in sales if BC is so significant?
Xbox was never big outside few markets.
Too bad PC is almost digital only now and that's their end goal. Without physical consoles aren't needed anymore tbh. Hardware manufactures are only ones benefitting from selling these underpowered trash. Smart hardware makers better invest in software making studios before it's too late.
>if the ps5 had ps2 and ps3 support, it would have sold better
PS2 backwards compatibility has always been overhyped. You could buy a PS2 brand new for less than the price of two new games when the PS4 launched.
At that kind of a price it meant that adding back compat to PS3 or PS4 didn't make any fricking sense if it meant even a minor cost increase because manufacturing a PS2 and a non-back compat PS3 was cheaper than making a single back compat fat PS3.
>some third-party publishers don't want Nintendo's Switch successor to have backward compatibility
This is a thing? Which publishers are we talking about here?
i imagine the ones planning to release remakes and remasters of switch era games
Absolutely Semetic
We don't know sadly. Then again nintendo israelites are planing to push their online account. I hope they don't frick physical backward so they can push their garbage online account. There is huge push against physical in all fronts and they want to kill physical.
They will have BC because they want to push their account. Who would want to invest in their NSO account if all their games would dissapear after a few years?
Physical is still huge in Japan and a digital only hand-held seems dumb to me. I doubt they'll get rid of it
>some third-party publishers don't want Nintendo's Switch successor to have backward compatibility
name them, so we can boycott their double dipping asses
anticonsumer companies should be ground into dust
Sega won't, they like to re-sell Sonic 1-3&Knuckles every generation
>huh
Kek, if they drop BC its just vindication for all the pirates who never bought any of their games to begin with. Alteast give paying customers one tiny benefit for wasting their money on your cartridges.
I'm already taking extra care of my modded switch just in case
If my launch switch breaks I'm a little fricked short term but I'm glad I stopped buying thier games after the first couple years. Long term it won't matter because of emulation and portable pcs.
There aren't many wius in world sadly and nintendo fricked some of them so it's sad.
Luckily if the numbers are right there's way too many fricking switches out there
>vindication for all the pirates who never bought any of their games
no? you fricking thief?
Didn't steal anything, meanwhile intentionally removing BC is removing acess to shit you already paid for which is actually closer to stealing.
Think about it. The Switch has way too many fricking indie games and ports. Switch 2 comes out with backwards compatibility and there's all these fricking ports or collections that won't sell much more. It'd be more beneficial towards selling hardware to have backwards compatibility, but how could even Nintendo sell Ocarina of Time for the 57th time if everyone who wants it already owns it and can play it on the new platform?
These games are evergreen. As long as they are digitally available all these ports will rake in cumulative millions with literally 0 effort on publishers part.
This is why so many companies focus on pc now.
It's zero effort, but on consoles you can trick people into thinking that changing the internal resolution of your game and a few textures is a valid excuse to ask for your money once again.
>how could even Nintendo sell Ocarina of Time for the 57th time if everyone who wants it already owns it and can play it on the new platform?
It's on their online service now, so backwards compatibility isn't a problem. If the Switch 2 has a similar system, then Nintendo still controls when or how those games are available.
>It's on their online service now
Yeah, but when they sold games individually on VC they could have done BC as well. But they decided that early 3DS adopters should be given a few GBA ROMs for 80 bucks so of course they wouldn't bother with that.
I think you missed my point.
Nintendo wouldn't worry about BC interfering with the sales of their old games because they're not selling them anymore to begin with. Even if they're "generous" and include the current library in the Switch 2's online service instead of drip feeding it again, people still have to pay for it and keep paying for it.
It's not really a matter of backwards compatibility anymore.
Oh right, they sell games as a service now so all that matters is the subscriptions. Still it can always get worse. They could just do the usual "we'll remove some of these games after this date" that other services like game pass do. I doubt they'd do it for newer first party releases though, because those they can still sell for 60 bucks 5 years later.
They can port OOT 3D. Then the gen after they can remake OOT again
I've been wondering what's with the lack of zelda ports on the switch, it's a no brainer.
a no brainer like running them on your computer
God that UI looks like absolute dogshit.
Optional mod and the vanilla UI on your precious 3DS looks no better, imagine having options little tendie.
>and the vanilla UI on your precious 3DS looks no better,
Get your eyes checked my man
it's exactly the same as this image but lower res, you fail to realize how much better literally everything else is. Enjoy your aliasing and 30fps I guess.
>it's exactly the same
Do you work for square enix by any chance?
>filtered by a font in an optional mod
we get it bro, you're too dumb try emulation
it looks fine, you're just coping with the fact that you're too ignorant to make this happen
agreed
Spend hundreds of dollars on building a digital library, so sorry dear you can't play these games anymore. Buy the new ones instead. It honestly would piss people off enough to migrate to other platforms.
He's right?
He is based CEO for once. Maybe he will be fired for being good human once.
He’s allegedly the inspiration behind the greedy israelite debt collector in Red Dead 2
Why are people pretending to care about the Wii U now?
I have wiiu and wii discs moron. Only uncensored FF5, Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Xenoblade X are on jap wiiu release.
>Make pkimin 1 and 2 ports
It's censored
Better backward than censored
My expectation is that Nintendo is going to stick with the hybrid handheld rate and continue using hardware from the same family of chips... which is basically a mobile phone processor with a 100% backwards compatible instruction set. There's no reason for them not to be backwards compatible under those conditions other than maybe good old-fashioned greed.
As long as they don't kill BC for pushing online acc i'm fine.
>nintendo FUD thread
go play some games
oh wait your console doesn't have any
Switch is nice but where is 3ds successor?
>the guy who rereleased gta 5 3 times is b***hing about backwards compatibility
lol, lmao even
He isn't b***hing. What he said is logical. Nintendo should provide it.
>Nintendo sells Mario Kart 8 again, this time for $70
Real chads know PC will always be the true Nintendo platform.
>Take Two CEO
Did this Black person even put any of his companies games on the Switch?
The 2K series
Red Dead Redemption
GTA trilogy
Borderland 1 and 2
Civilization
Bioshock
But GTA 5 nor GTA 6 are coming to either the Switch or the Switch 2, so no one gives a frick what this moron thinks.
backwards compatibility is anti semitic
What the frick? Why do you want your consoles black wiener compatible?