Infinite multiplayer has unironically come around recently.
Even added halo 3 maps into the rotation.
Its still massively behind standards, but its improved.
Prob cuz they fired like 99% of the 343 staff earlier this year, so all the dead weight is gone, just a bunch of nerds crunch-timing now to make the game good (otherwise they're out of a job too)
All the Xbox games also release on PC because it's Microsoft. There's really no justification for getting an xbox over a gaming PC.
The xbox is cheaper, but a good gaming PC can last over multiple console generations and it's backwards compatible with everything.
Sony is still a little reluctant to release their games on PC and Nintendo flat out refuses. So their consoles are still relevant, but it's artificial.
>it's backwards compatible with everything.
Unfortunately Microsoft sees that as a bug, and not a feature and is planning to move users who buy prebuilt hardware to ARM in the future.
When a user goes onto a mainstream online store, or walks into a brick and mortar store their choices are all going to be a cheap Windows Home system running Windows 12 for ARM.
It will be as difficult to buy a system running Windows 11 on an x86 processor in 2025, as it currently is to buy a prebuilt system pre-installed with a Linux distribution other than ChromeOS or SteamOS.
I generally agree with your post but the cost of PC gaming went up. NVIDIA cards aren't entry level friendly as they were price wise. Back in the day we would help people build a PC under strict budgets since the market was fair, but this is a whole new ball game we're playing with modern day GPU prices.
Sometimes I think about how much the 360 gen must have stung for Xbox. Because it was the one gen in which they were truly successful, tons of consoles and game sales. But they lost a ton of money because of the red ring of death and how it made them have to commit to replacing millions of consoles for free. That shit must still haunt them
The problem is that we need competition in the market and we need it from someone who isn't a trillion dollar corporation.
I wish Sega never left the console market and was actually competent enough to light a fire up both Sony and Nintendo's ass. I would be willing to give up the convenience of their games being on PC for that.
Not that anon but what is the ballpark percentage of how many games on Steam work on the Deck? More than half? Because the closer it gets to 100% the less incentive I have on building a new gaming PC in the future and just focus on the future Steam Deck variants.
In terms of a tested 'console' experience on the Deck hardware? Something around 40% currently, although the standard Valve is holding games to for that is extremely strict.
ProtonDB has a slightly less strict measure for if the game works without any tinkering, and that is between 40% and 70%, for AMD users it is much closer to the 70%, for Nvidia users the 40% is more accurate.
Although with 'tinkering', where that is most commonly simply selecting a different compatibility tool like ProtonGE that can be closet to 90% for AMD and 70% for Nvidia.
The big issues currently for Proton are games that use NT kernel targeted malware, Microsoft patented media codecs, or that are depending on specific undocumented Windows behavior nobody has encountered in the history of Wine, or that require a fix to be enabled.
Those last two categories are often a third-party compatibility tool away from working. The first category is the really hard one, especially when some developers are politically motivated against open platforms like Epic. Who claim they want open platforms, but really want special treatment from the owners of closed platforms.
Definitely more than half. It's becoming increasingly rare to find games that don't work at all. The only exception are multiplayer games that use Windows-only anti-cheats. There's even a site that tracks them https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Xbox classic >Dead or Alive 2 >Ninja Gaiden Black >Halo 1 and 2 >Dead or Alilve Extreme Barely Disguised Fetish Volleyball >Phantasy Star Online
When Xbox brand had soul.
Honestly yes, and my first console was an xbox. Its over, the soul is gone 🙁
tbh none of the consoles have sovl anymore
>sony killed all its Japanese shit and cenors other Japanese devs >switch has no themes and removed all the fun menu music from their OS and none of the switch revisions were any good >XBOX didn't even get a new UI and doesn't get any Japanese support
The early 00s were truly the golden age. We didn't realize how good we had it.
>XBOX didn't even get a new UI
it did but it's still boring flatshit, they should bring back blades but i guess it's too ~~*complicated*~~ for Black folk
>The early 00s were truly the golden age
The golden age for consoleslop maybe. Consoles were even more anemic back then compared to PCs.
At least when you buy a console nowadays, it can manage a somewhat modern resolution and refresh rate. You were lucky if a console of the sixth gen gave you 480p.
If Xbox dies Playstation will never ever return to Japan, they'll go full western because of competition here and give Japan to Nintendo on a silver platter.
Xbox never did well ever in japan.
Nintendo completely owns the Japanese market. besides the mobile gatcha degenerate waifu Micro transaction genshit slop.
I just realized everything microsoft has bought will be up for sale again. God i hope blizzard dies...
I think MSFT will inevitably move towards putting everything in the cloud so you can play from literally anywhere on any device. They probably only wanna do
one or two more gens before that.
ehhh too early to write it off sadly. it's like saying the ngage failed, gaming on phones will never happen outside of snake and tetris. technology caught up, now the majority of "gaming" happens on phones.
Technology can't catch up to cloud gaming, because it's all dependant on the connection between you and the datacenter
Getting awful latency with game streaming on your shitty home broadband? The solution there is to move houses.
None of the game streaming companies control the telco infra, and even if they did it'd be so absurdly expensive to upgrade it simply wouldn't be worth it.
That's not to mention scaling issues. Every major city would need its own gaming-only datacentre which also isn't happening. It is just so much easier to sell a standalone game console.
Stadia's issue was more Google's unwillingness to really invest in the idea to get publishers on board more than any fundamental issue with the idea of web delivered games itself. Microsoft on the other hand, have been buying up game publishers left and right.
There are a lot of things you can do to help make a web delivered game work. You can use anti-lag to try to predict potential actions by the user, you can use upscaling and frame-generation to reduce the bandwidth needed for a stream, you can have a local runtime that handles some aspects of the game on the users local system like having delivered frames 20% larger than the viewport where a fraction of a second of camera movement is possible locally.
Leaked emails already have them saying internally cloud gaming is a waste of time which is why they sold cloud rights to ubisoft and have not upgraded xbox cloud. They dont care about cloud at all.
Actually, I do want this to happen. Mostly so that Apple can come in and ass rape Sony to death. Would be funny as frick if Sony convinced one trillion dollar company to leave only to get absolutely wrecked by the biggest company on the planet who won't hold back like M$ did.
The smart move would be to sell cheap prebuilt PCs instead and push a digital PC storefront. PC gaming is becoming more and more popular but they're going to give Valve too much of a headstart so they'll never be able to compete.
The only way to do it is to provide a better service. Cheap PCs to instill brand loyalty and then Game Pass would be it. Hell, sell a $700 mid range PC that has Game Pass for "free" for a year or 2 and they'll get people that resub because of it and it will keep consumers buying Microsoft PCs in the future when it comes with 2 years of GP for "free" and that will get people to use GP over Steam. Being a loss leader in the console market has not worked, they are merely losing. They might as well try it in the PC field instead, especially right now when GPU prices are so fricked.
Consoles and PCs are getting homogenized enough anyway, throw a Steam Big Picture Mode type deal into their desktops for the Xboxgays and call it a day.
>It can play games and be used to watch tv/netflix
Smart TVs exist now, that's an irrelevant feature.
>That’s all most consumers care about
The thing is that right now kids and teens want to be streamers. They want to be like their favorite e-celebs on Youtube and Twitch so for that, they need an actual computer. They could have an entire generation of kids raised on Windows and GamePass if they sold cheap PCs, which might help maintain users that primarily play games on PC if Valve ever decides to release SteamOS to the masses.
It would be, but it would be the killer of the Xbox platform. The whole point of the Xbox is that it is Microsoft's vision of the future of the PC. A platform completely under their control, where only approved applications are allowed to function.
There could be a compromise. They could allow some kind of linking between steam and Microsoft store. Then I would be fine even if they would let me play some verified games from steam using UWP without needing to buy the game 2 times.
>Why won't the convicted Monopolist do something that helps their competition?
Microsoft isn't a company whose goal is to make a better platform for their users.
Their goal is to generate more revenue for shareholders.
Similarly Valve would never agree to a deal that took them from being in control of their own fate on open platforms, even if it meant they would get special treatment on a closed platform.
Because once you are dealing with a closed platform, you are at the mercy of the platform holder.
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Valve is scared of windows and their attempt at pushing their own Linux based operating system is the proof. Will come the time where Microsoft decides to take over it's own platform and steam will be done for.
7 months ago
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>Will come the time where Microsoft decides to take over it's own platform
Valve isn't simply scared of that prospect. Microsoft flat out told Valve it was their vision for the future all the way back in 2012, and Valve demoed Steam for Linux the next week.
Maybe Microsoft delayed their evil plan, or maybe it is a rare instance of a Microsoft employee being cool and giving early notice with enough time to actually prepare an alternative.
If Microsoft went walled garden now, Valve would take a hit to be sure, but they would probably be fine long term.
The users they would lose, would be the ones who don't spend any money on Steam, or who spend very little money on the platform.
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I think it's a slow process that will slowly come together with new versions of windows.
The issue for Microsoft is that they want a Windows platform that looks more like an Xbox, a closed platform that requires monthly subscription fees, and not an Xbox that looks more like Windows able to run anything the user wants without generating revenue for Microsoft.
Valve may seem big within the PC gaming bubble, but compared to Microsoft they are aimed at a small 'enthusiast' sliver of the market. That market is sustainable for a private company like Valve, but can't support what Microsoft needs to produce for their public shareholders.
Microsoft's options really are go big or go home, and historically companies have 'gone home' to their enterprise customers more than they've managed to consolidate control over the consumer market.
Does he have dirt on the Pajeets or what's the deal? He's beyond incompetent.
Not only is he incompetent, he keeps saying the quiet part out loud and embarrassing Xbox. If you have Xbox fatigue he's like god's gift because he's accelerating their decline.
We've already seen what the future of gaming is, eventually everything will be on PC or PC hardware. Nintendo will probably be the last gaming company to detach themselves from hardware, but in 10 years it simply won't make sense to manufacture the hardware when there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs that exceed the hardware specifications Nintendo needs while costing less.
Having said that, Microsoft is going to be the first one to exit hardware. Their exclusives are shit, and not even the kind of mindless cinematic blockbuster shit that Sony shovels out, just plain shit that doesn't connect with anyone. All their games are on PC, and third parties are quickly recognizing that they make more money selling their games on Steam than they do renting them on Game Pass.
>Nintendo will probably be the last gaming company to detach themselves from hardware, but in 10 years it simply won't make sense to manufacture the hardware when there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs that exceed the hardware specifications Nintendo needs while costing less.
Imagine thinking this.
Microsoft is a tech megacorp, just because they're worth trillions of dollars doesn't mean they're satisfied with everything they do. If that were the case Zune would still be around.
Little bro, the $69B deal was closed. The masks are off and they're blowing their ATH day after day. They now are only second to Tencent in the gaming market.
>They now are only second to Tencent in the gaming market.
Mobile exists.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody cares about mobile games. I haven't played a game on my phone in like 5 years.
7 months ago
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Mobile is the most profitable sector of gaming and also the largest part of the market with the most players. King is legitimately the most lucrative part of the ABK acquisition because Microsoft now owns Candy Crush.
I'd guess that Sony will exit before Microsoft simply because barring some major shift in the industry Microsoft uniquely has the ability to cripple PC gaming to benefit themselves, something they have done a number of times. When push comes to shove Microsoft will choose to try to push their OEMs out, and lock their platforms down to prevent third-party hardware and third-party software.
Seeing as how little the Steam Deck some compared to the Switch, Nintendo isn’t going anywhere. Only the consoles that Maskerade as PCs will get absorbed
You say that now but Steam Deck is a first generation hardware, and it's rapidly growing. It does not fall into the same niche as the Switch because it's bigger and more expensive and not as kid-friendly, but if it keeps having steady growth I could easily see a time where a Nintendo platform feels redundant in a market where there are cheap handheld PCs that let you have a forever library that never needs to be re-purchased.
There's already a handheld PC that's about the size of the Switch Lite but it costs twice as much and it has shitty battery life. Again though, the technology is evolving and eventually, those problems will be resolved and the chipsets will keep getting more impressive.
Eventually the hardware frontier is going to be less and less relevant to Nintendo. The place where they will always have limitless potential will be their game development and brands, and if/when the time comes where manufacturing their own consoles no longer makes sense, I expect they will adapt. Even for valve I don't expect that they will be in the hardware game forever because they have always wanted other companies to make the hardware for them when the market allows it.
I don't think Nintendo or Valve will get out of the hardware market any time soon because there is a value in having a device fully under their control, they may just start supporting more devices. Although if you look at the way Nintendo use to make their hardware compared to the Switch arguably they've already essentially farmed out a lot of the parts they don't really care about to Nvidia. Kind of like how Valve and AMD are sharing responsibility for the Deck in a way more typically seen in 'consoles' even if the Deck is a PC.
If anything the ease of getting semi-custom chips made I think is going to lead to a market more like the 1980s where IBM PC compatibles were not yet dominant and the computer market was a lot more diverse and siloed than has been more recently.
Nintendo and pokemon will still be around even after humans are extinct in 3 million years. The fricking yellow rat and red plumber are infinite.
I bet you after the switch 2 they're just gonna do some metaquest shit and give us some VR hardware in like the mid 2030s. It will basically be their Wii 2
>There's already a handheld PC that's about the size of the Switch Lite but it costs twice as much
Companies just have to be patient. It's just like when flat screen plasma tvs first came out or even 4k tvs. Over time things will get cheaper You can find nice ass deals for 4k tvs now.
Instead of just making a handheld PC it will be easier to make a gameing dedicated tablet that can dock to tvs monitors.
It's just more simpler and safer to make gaming tablets. Not everyone wants to go up against nintendo in the "handheld" market. ( If microsoft drops out of the console race, then apple will take over with gaming iPad tablets apple arcade bullshit then it's pretty much joeover sony will try and throw there hat in but will get bulldozed)
It's gonna be fun to see the Steam Deck keep evolving but eventually I'm telling you It's just gonna turn into a damn tablet that you can attach controllers too.
>there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs
This is a boring solution but since mobile technology is quickly catching up to consoles and PCs. (IPhone can play re8 and 4reamke)
I can see everything just turning into a gameing tablet. Then all the companies can just copy switch, so you can dock it on your tv or on the go. The reason why it has to be a tablet is because more people and the mainstream will buy it. You have to remember nintendo still owns the handheld market technically. It's just safer to turn future consoles into tablets.
Because no one's going to want to completely go up against Nintendo.
Eventually steam will release an app And you can play all their game.
Then that's that. Gameing dies no more physical.
Nintendo will definitely be the last ones to hold off the digital only massacre in the future.
At what framerate and resolution? And for what? 20 mins before your phone is dead? Kek
It's probably running the ps4 version which is still impressive.
but I agree it's only a matter of time before mobile catches up completely.
>The year is 2027 >I'm playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare Remastered on my Apple iConsole Pro SE 2nd gen >The remaster of the 2019 remake that is >There's only 1 button, the rest of the game is handled by an AI that predicts what you'd want to do
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Close but it won't be AI. It will be your neuralink you have to think to shoot and sprint.
Why do they expect people to subscribe to gamepass when 95% of the games are woke shovelware? Literal "farming sims" (dating sims for autists) walking sims and visual novels that are all thinly veiled propaganda. The biggest game they've added in the last year was starfield, which turned out to be an absolute wreck. Until better games get added, with more of a focus on gameplay over pushing "the message," there's no reason for sane human beings or gamers to subscribe.
I agree that the quality of their first party titles needs to improve, but that's not necessarily the only way to improve gamepass. They just need to add better third party games that are geared towards gamers, as opposed to pleasing the HR department. For example, why wasn't Boltgun added? That would have been perfect for gamepass. There are plenty of RPGs, shooters and strategy games that aren't being added because they're gameplay-focused and non-political.
Starfield is such a half baked game. It has really good things in outposts and shipbuilding but there’s zero reason to use them because the game is faceroll easy even on very hard.
>misread the market
That's a mistake in assuming ms has the good intention of following market trends.
They don't follow market trends, they're just arrogant and drunk on their commercial OS monopoly.
Every time ms has done shit like that, they're trying to DICTATE market trends, and they try to do it thru what control of the market space they have.
Their issue is that they often try to copy emerging trends to come out ahead on them. Like how Sony for some reason tries to copy Microsoft by making their own Netflix for games or how they made the PS Move against the Wii and now the PSPortal with the Switch. Microsoft sees Google or Apple have some success with tablets, phones, chromebooks, etc and wants to try to get a slice of that pie too and it never fails.
They do things like the mixed reality push on Windows 10 to try to dictate market trends but nothing ever comes from it because they constantly misread what consumers want. Or rather, consumers don't want what they're attempting to push so in that case you're right. But they totally trend chase Google and Apple when it comes to things not related to their OS.
The post-mortem Redfall interview with Phil Spencer in KindaFunnyGames. The entire FTC Xbox documents leaks. Microsoft Sirs CEO no longer ties his bonus pay to GamePass subscription counts because GamePass failed to grow for 3 years in a row. Don Mattrick Xbox One outselling the Series consoles, they have stalled the hardware sales for Xbox Series X and S. Another year, another no show for Xbox at Game Awards Show.
Lol. No you don't. I have a series x and its dope.
>Play all the latest greatest multiplats. >Got dongpass and a huge library of previous gold titles. >Buy other games if they really interest me
As a kid who grew up with like 5 games, i'm fricking set. No games could come for the next 40+ years and i'd still have plenty to play. But sure, go buy a playstation for...spiderman. Go shill somewhere else, homosexual.
based xskelly, playstation is positively boring now
now that they bought activision they're now financially in a position where devs will have to start kissing up to xbox
There's more games on PS+ Premium than game pass. Xbox is still just an American "we made a playstation too" console, nothing special about it and that's why only Americans buy it because all they have is marketing. There are also a lot of third party games coming out that won't get an xbox release.
Why? Both consoles have the same slop, except Xbox has BC, gamepass is better than Sony’s shit, and the only first party game worth mentioning on the PS5 is miles morales man 2: the dlc for 1
I sold mine and bought a Steam Deck. Emulating any console game I want, and got my whole Steam library plus non-Steam games because it’s an open platform
Snoy Black person hands typed this.
At this point playstation gays are discord trannies actively conspiring against Nintendo, Valve and Ms believing that would give PS5 any games.
Playstation is already on its way out, Xbox is only thinking about heading that route.
This whole article is speculation, but MS should have never based like 85% of their business model on game pass. It's a sinking ship, even if that ship takes 10 years to sink.
Xbox is literally the poorgay choice. There's a reason as to why they released an inferior, digital only version of its own console
It's kind of weird because they are trying to push cloud gaming so hard but no third world country would be able to go use a cloud service well
>nobody asked for
but that's the point? do you need entertainment to keep on living? or literally anything produced by companies? no. you could change your lifestyle and still survive. but you won't, because it's convenient, because of trends, fomo, etc. Companies create demand. microsoft missed in this case, or went in a decade too early
what is xbox and phil's endgame by constantly telling us xbox is a failing brand or how they aren't trying to compete with sony? like does he expect me to go out and buy seven xboxes out of pity?
Microsoft wants you to believe that they are the scrappy underdog up against the mean corporate giants like sony and nintendo who are just in it for the money.
>remaking remasters >remastering 3yr old game >shitty ps portal >make only one type of game >raising price of console because they can
with behavior like sony's, you'd swear they are just in it for the money
plus nintendo isn't actually competition now, in fact their usa hq is on microsoft campus in redmond
No, he expects to be perceived as the little company that could so that he gets the green light to swing uncle gates' massive dong and buy a frickton of relevant companies and keep them as hostages
>microsoft "might" exit the gaming business. >microsoft "MIGHT" >MIGHT
kek sure buddy they've been saying this for the past 10+ years
>Spencer: Microsoft almost abandoned Xbox brand after the Xbox One launch
https://www.shacknews.com/article/121384/last-one-at-the-table-phil-spencer-on-inheriting-xbox-one-and-launching-xbox-series-x
lol
pc recently fried my mobo which took out my 4090 and cpu with it and I am not sure what to do anymore. Currently use a 15inch laptop for non gaming stuff. I dont really want to spend another 2k on replacing my pc ether.
I have no idea nothing works anymore. Tried my 4090 in another pc and it doesnt work, my pc doesnt boot, tried a new power supply still doesnt boot. just assuming mobo and graphics card has gone to shit along with power supply. at this point I would just buy a whole new pc.
They’ll be more profitable than Sony once the COD money comes rolling in. Playstation’s margins are more slim than XBox or Nintendo and they make most of their money from licensing fees for micro transactions
Why wait? MS has Windows, and by extension like 95% of PC players. Xbox as a brand is vestigal and Halo/Gears in their prime were the only real reasons it could ever be argued otherwise.
If revenue was all they care about, they wouldnt have made vscode free and windows so easy to pirate for personal use
They probably invest that much money into gaming because they want to compete with Apple and slow down the rising of Linux gaming
Office and gaming are literally the only reason people use windows over other 2
Are you braindead Black person? Xbox could die tomorrow and nothing would happen to Microsoft's stock because it's such a minuscule part of the company.
>re posting an article from Sept 21 that was already spammed here >cropped out the part where it says written by Sanchay Saksena >IGN India
What happened now that Sonygays are posting old articles?
Xbox failed to grow GamePass. Xbox consoles are selling worse than the Xbox One. Don Mattrick did better. Xbox will never win a GOTY. Phil Spencer is a conman.
MS has been saying that for 10+ years now
its like sunk cost fallacy or something for billionaires, phil spencer is the greatest con man, conning moronic share holders that subscription based model for games was a good idea, lol its not and never will be
it ended with the 360 everything after than in gayming growth is soccer moms playing canfycrush, no innovation, even after a decade no massive shift in graphics vr sucks, all genres set in stone, sjwism, downloads, n media, subsciptions etcm gaymes are dead for a decade when the last physical media goes for the ps3/360/pc its over
Consoles are on their way out. Game dev cycles are too long now so consoles don't get titles until several years after launch. Plus, fewer and fewer people even own televisions as many people just stream on their laptop and phone. Future of gaming are mobile tablet devices like Steamdeck and Switch.
These Black folk own more studios than any other publisher or console manufacturer in the world. They own like a 100 studios and none seem to be making any games. On paper nobody should even be able to compete with Xbox.
What insanity is this? Let's buy all of these studios, and never do anything with them. What happens to these studios when Xbox goes under. They just cease to exist because Microsoft is asshoe, and they never sell them to anyone else.
i mean its clear they bought activision/blizzard to get revenue avenue once they leave. it was never to save xbox as a console, xbox is never gonna catch up to ps5. so the brain move was to simply buy studios and have your fingers in the pie after they pull out from the hardware division (they will)
then life will go back to classic sony vs nintendo but this time nintendo is winning and ps5 can't compete with switch or switch 2 in ww appeal. once nintendo can run games at a half decent rate to get more 3rd party onboard its over for sony in the console space as well. they ran out of ip to really milk.
Microsoft aren't going to be uninvolved in hardware, if they stop making consoles it's because they think other hardware eg. smart tv, PC, smartphones can make up the gap for game pass >ps5 can't compete with switch or switch 2 in ww appeal
PS5 has been beating Switch all year in worldwide sales. They're also not in competition, Switch game sales are dominated by first party IP that's been around for 30 to 40 years. Playstation has always been favoured for third party. The success of the PS5 has little bearing on how well a handheld Switch 2 does.
sony sells more in the west, nintendo sells more in japan. there isn't going to be a major shift when the switch can run other 3rd party games, the western world that is already on sony consoles will stick with sony consoles because that's where there games are. spending $70 to buy the same game but on the switch 2 is not an interesting prospect to your average consumer.
MS is happy with Xbox where they are. They're treating the Xbox as hardware people can buy just to directly access their services immediately without a PC and do not really care about spending massive amounts of money to push xbox console sales anymore. So until the day Xbox console sales drop to 0, they'll keep producing Xbox consoles just to stay in the industry making money off xbox gamepass and the 30% cut they get from game sales.
It's a ruse to appear weak just so they can get the purchase pushed through by saying they'll go out of business if they arent allowed to buy act-blizz. Now that they've bought them they're secure and will never face trouble ever again.
>Was actually thinking of getting Xbox after resisting for 20 years straight >See this shit
Why should I buy a console the god damn president of is basically saying won't be supported in just a few years?
Snoy cope is really potent isn't it? Yeah bro, Microsoft just spent over 100 billion dollars buying studios just so they can close up shop in a couple of years. Kek
So that means that by 2027 or 2028 they'll completely get rid of Xbox as a gaming device or gaming brand? Damn, Sony and Nintendo will soar even higher at that point.
Big companies are always slow to react and out of touch, full of bureaucracy and inefficiencies. Microsoft is about as big as it gets, I don't think any amount of market research will help them understand gamers unless they release the N-BOX
Do you know what a blessing it would be if xbox just fricked off and died? Almost every shitty anti-consumer move started there, they bring 0 studios anyone gives a frick about to the table other than recent acquistions.
I don't think enough people see the dangers of apple entering the market. It's gonna be like getting a pet tiger walking around your home at night. Surly things will be fine
I personally think MS will be fine but worst case scenario what if apple kills off sony and MS and they pop the frick off?
Half of you fricks will convert into tendies.
Actual joeover
MS will be fine, it's just that they'll pull out of making boxes.
Apple for all their faults has shown tremendous restraint and they fully fund games for their apple arcade service, they also ban any mtx or gacha from them. They may bring in an age of quality games.
But you and most people don't seem to understand the nature of the question wasn't what we want to happen. It's what we think will happen. SEGA would be great but they're never ever coming back to hardware. Apple now has their own chip, their own rabid fanbase and even their own graphics backend. Apple is also big enough to make such a move.
Everyone wants to turn gaming into subscription services like television, but the markets and attitudes of the people consuming in them isn't the same.
Phil's gonna have one allmighty big dick slapped out of his mouth in 2027.
They might well end it now. All consoles should just stop existing. They don't seem to want to produce cool games that the main video game market demographic would love. It's all just about pandering to boring people.
Why don't they just make some fricking games? Even Sony has their yearly movie game which usually sells decently. Microsoft literally makes nothing except Halos that flop horribly. The last Microsoft game with any hype was fricking Crackdown 3
Cause their way of thinking is buying every studio up like they're at an art gallery and saying hey, look at what I painted!
Phil is basically a frat boy at college. (A mellow one) but is still spoiled and uses daddy's credit card throwing as much money at every problem is possible.
And hey in the end it might just fricking work who knows.
the snoy asshurt since the deal went through has been astronomical.
Thank you for helping fund my gamepass when you bought CoD btw fellas. Maybe I'll put in a good word with Phil and you can get some Skyrim-themed skin packs in the future or something when TES6 releases.
Absolutely no one is excited for TES6. Deep down we all know it's going to be Starfield with swords and microsoft will the the laughing stock once again.
>buy
10 million players on game pass if they're lucky lol, starfield got a boost because it was on xbox and was an fps. tes6 would garner as much interest from the fps dudebros on xbox. plus bethesda's reputation is in the gutter after fo76 and starfield, so it's gonna be a tough sell. especially because it's going to be the redguard game and it's going to be heavily politicized one way or another. "chuds" are the core base for elder scrolls, if it's too pozzed they won't buy it until it's under $10 on steam with years worth of sex mods out.
Spencer couldn't save the brand regardless of his efforts or time. He managed to acquire several notable studios and publishers but after their heyday.
Pretty fricking smart. The real money is in SaaS and desktop gaming as an aggregator of a ton of studios. Let the moronic japs cannibalize each other for their tiny market.
Here's what I want: >COMPLETED games on a disk/cartridge that I can put into an OFFLINE console and play that way for the next few decades
Here's what I get: >a gimped computer/surveillance device where I don't even own the games I download where 1 shitty game takes up a double digit percentage of the drive space
I have a Series S, my first console since the PS3, and I spend more time updating it and the games than I do playing anything. and I can fit what, 5 games on it? boomers are always right. things WERE better then and decline happens because of complacency and incompetence.
Hopefully they actually go through with it this time. This should have happened after the Xbox One.
So long gay Microsoft!
What's the last worthwhile game they made?
Infinite multiplayer has unironically come around recently.
Even added halo 3 maps into the rotation.
Its still massively behind standards, but its improved.
Prob cuz they fired like 99% of the 343 staff earlier this year, so all the dead weight is gone, just a bunch of nerds crunch-timing now to make the game good (otherwise they're out of a job too)
>Added Halo 3 maps into the rotation
Yeah, Forge ports of them. So they look like dogshit cobbled together by Legos.
The only good game that came out for Xbox one that I liked was Ori.
fable
Sea of Thieves is quite fun if you have 3 friends. Otherwise... probably Viva Pinata back on the 360.
All the Xbox games also release on PC because it's Microsoft. There's really no justification for getting an xbox over a gaming PC.
The xbox is cheaper, but a good gaming PC can last over multiple console generations and it's backwards compatible with everything.
Sony is still a little reluctant to release their games on PC and Nintendo flat out refuses. So their consoles are still relevant, but it's artificial.
>it's backwards compatible with everything.
Unfortunately Microsoft sees that as a bug, and not a feature and is planning to move users who buy prebuilt hardware to ARM in the future.
When a user goes onto a mainstream online store, or walks into a brick and mortar store their choices are all going to be a cheap Windows Home system running Windows 12 for ARM.
It will be as difficult to buy a system running Windows 11 on an x86 processor in 2025, as it currently is to buy a prebuilt system pre-installed with a Linux distribution other than ChromeOS or SteamOS.
I generally agree with your post but the cost of PC gaming went up. NVIDIA cards aren't entry level friendly as they were price wise. Back in the day we would help people build a PC under strict budgets since the market was fair, but this is a whole new ball game we're playing with modern day GPU prices.
>There's really no justification for getting an xbox over a gaming PC.
lol this cope again?
>w-we're really gonna do it this time! we swear!
this is like when a woman pretends to have suicidal thoughts for attention
The xbone had like 5 games for months at launch compared to the xbox and 360 which were amazing immediately
Sometimes I think about how much the 360 gen must have stung for Xbox. Because it was the one gen in which they were truly successful, tons of consoles and game sales. But they lost a ton of money because of the red ring of death and how it made them have to commit to replacing millions of consoles for free. That shit must still haunt them
The problem is that we need competition in the market and we need it from someone who isn't a trillion dollar corporation.
I wish Sega never left the console market and was actually competent enough to light a fire up both Sony and Nintendo's ass. I would be willing to give up the convenience of their games being on PC for that.
I feel like it's a good thing that the SteamDeck is blurring the line between console and pc, especially since it doesn't natively run windows
Not that anon but what is the ballpark percentage of how many games on Steam work on the Deck? More than half? Because the closer it gets to 100% the less incentive I have on building a new gaming PC in the future and just focus on the future Steam Deck variants.
In terms of a tested 'console' experience on the Deck hardware? Something around 40% currently, although the standard Valve is holding games to for that is extremely strict.
ProtonDB has a slightly less strict measure for if the game works without any tinkering, and that is between 40% and 70%, for AMD users it is much closer to the 70%, for Nvidia users the 40% is more accurate.
Although with 'tinkering', where that is most commonly simply selecting a different compatibility tool like ProtonGE that can be closet to 90% for AMD and 70% for Nvidia.
The big issues currently for Proton are games that use NT kernel targeted malware, Microsoft patented media codecs, or that are depending on specific undocumented Windows behavior nobody has encountered in the history of Wine, or that require a fix to be enabled.
Those last two categories are often a third-party compatibility tool away from working. The first category is the really hard one, especially when some developers are politically motivated against open platforms like Epic. Who claim they want open platforms, but really want special treatment from the owners of closed platforms.
Definitely more than half. It's becoming increasingly rare to find games that don't work at all. The only exception are multiplayer games that use Windows-only anti-cheats. There's even a site that tracks them https://areweanticheatyet.com/
There used to be competition before microsoft consolidated and killed the entire industry with a thousand self inflicted paper cuts.
Honestly yes, and my first console was an xbox. Its over, the soul is gone 🙁
Xbox classic
>Dead or Alive 2
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Halo 1 and 2
>Dead or Alilve Extreme Barely Disguised Fetish Volleyball
>Phantasy Star Online
When Xbox brand had soul.
tbh none of the consoles have sovl anymore
>sony killed all its Japanese shit and cenors other Japanese devs
>switch has no themes and removed all the fun menu music from their OS and none of the switch revisions were any good
>XBOX didn't even get a new UI and doesn't get any Japanese support
The early 00s were truly the golden age. We didn't realize how good we had it.
>XBOX didn't even get a new UI
it did but it's still boring flatshit, they should bring back blades but i guess it's too ~~*complicated*~~ for Black folk
here's the old one
>The early 00s were truly the golden age
The golden age for consoleslop maybe. Consoles were even more anemic back then compared to PCs.
At least when you buy a console nowadays, it can manage a somewhat modern resolution and refresh rate. You were lucky if a console of the sixth gen gave you 480p.
Modern consoles claim 60fps 4k or 120fps 1080p but we get 40fps 1440p with dips in framerate AND resolution for mediocre looking games.
>xbox dies
>playstation returns to japan
one can dream
If Xbox dies Playstation will never ever return to Japan, they'll go full western because of competition here and give Japan to Nintendo on a silver platter.
They already gave Japan to Nintendo the moment they moved to California.
Cali Sony would rather self sabotage and kill the brand than return to Japan, it's NEVER happening.
Xbox never did well ever in japan.
Nintendo completely owns the Japanese market. besides the mobile gatcha degenerate waifu Micro transaction genshit slop.
I just realized everything microsoft has bought will be up for sale again. God i hope blizzard dies...
>exit the gaming business after paying $70billion for ActiBlizz
Yeah okay
going third party with all those IPs would be way better than still trying to make consoles
So they'll just SEGA?
I think MSFT will inevitably move towards putting everything in the cloud so you can play from literally anywhere on any device. They probably only wanna do
one or two more gens before that.
Stadia already showed that cloud gaming's never gonna be the primary way to play vidya for a lot of different reasons
ehhh too early to write it off sadly. it's like saying the ngage failed, gaming on phones will never happen outside of snake and tetris. technology caught up, now the majority of "gaming" happens on phones.
Technology can't catch up to cloud gaming, because it's all dependant on the connection between you and the datacenter
Getting awful latency with game streaming on your shitty home broadband? The solution there is to move houses.
None of the game streaming companies control the telco infra, and even if they did it'd be so absurdly expensive to upgrade it simply wouldn't be worth it.
That's not to mention scaling issues. Every major city would need its own gaming-only datacentre which also isn't happening. It is just so much easier to sell a standalone game console.
Stadia's issue was more Google's unwillingness to really invest in the idea to get publishers on board more than any fundamental issue with the idea of web delivered games itself. Microsoft on the other hand, have been buying up game publishers left and right.
There are a lot of things you can do to help make a web delivered game work. You can use anti-lag to try to predict potential actions by the user, you can use upscaling and frame-generation to reduce the bandwidth needed for a stream, you can have a local runtime that handles some aspects of the game on the users local system like having delivered frames 20% larger than the viewport where a fraction of a second of camera movement is possible locally.
Leaked emails already have them saying internally cloud gaming is a waste of time which is why they sold cloud rights to ubisoft and have not upgraded xbox cloud. They dont care about cloud at all.
Actually, I do want this to happen. Mostly so that Apple can come in and ass rape Sony to death. Would be funny as frick if Sony convinced one trillion dollar company to leave only to get absolutely wrecked by the biggest company on the planet who won't hold back like M$ did.
They'll just turn into a shareholder that has their fingers in every major game studio
That is probably their end game anyways.
>might
journoslop
You don't become a shareholder of a company you own, moron.
This was my thought as well, the frick were they thinking?! Also, what's with all these threats?
>"If you don't buy our pass we're pulling the plug!"
fricking aussie
stop putting shit games on goypass then
The smart move would be to sell cheap prebuilt PCs instead and push a digital PC storefront. PC gaming is becoming more and more popular but they're going to give Valve too much of a headstart so they'll never be able to compete.
noone's going to take a meaningful chunk out of steam's pie, it's just not happening, that meme needs to die once & for all
The only way to do it is to provide a better service. Cheap PCs to instill brand loyalty and then Game Pass would be it. Hell, sell a $700 mid range PC that has Game Pass for "free" for a year or 2 and they'll get people that resub because of it and it will keep consumers buying Microsoft PCs in the future when it comes with 2 years of GP for "free" and that will get people to use GP over Steam. Being a loss leader in the console market has not worked, they are merely losing. They might as well try it in the PC field instead, especially right now when GPU prices are so fricked.
Consoles and PCs are getting homogenized enough anyway, throw a Steam Big Picture Mode type deal into their desktops for the Xboxgays and call it a day.
They sell prebuilt PCs, it's called "Xbox Series"
Doesn't have full PC functionality, it's not the same thing.
It can play games and be used to watch tv/netflix. That’s all most consumers care about
>It can play games and be used to watch tv/netflix
Smart TVs exist now, that's an irrelevant feature.
>That’s all most consumers care about
The thing is that right now kids and teens want to be streamers. They want to be like their favorite e-celebs on Youtube and Twitch so for that, they need an actual computer. They could have an entire generation of kids raised on Windows and GamePass if they sold cheap PCs, which might help maintain users that primarily play games on PC if Valve ever decides to release SteamOS to the masses.
If they would give the possibility to run steam games on Xbox console it would be a killer application.
It would be, but it would be the killer of the Xbox platform. The whole point of the Xbox is that it is Microsoft's vision of the future of the PC. A platform completely under their control, where only approved applications are allowed to function.
There could be a compromise. They could allow some kind of linking between steam and Microsoft store. Then I would be fine even if they would let me play some verified games from steam using UWP without needing to buy the game 2 times.
>Why won't the convicted Monopolist do something that helps their competition?
Microsoft isn't a company whose goal is to make a better platform for their users.
Their goal is to generate more revenue for shareholders.
Similarly Valve would never agree to a deal that took them from being in control of their own fate on open platforms, even if it meant they would get special treatment on a closed platform.
Because once you are dealing with a closed platform, you are at the mercy of the platform holder.
Valve is scared of windows and their attempt at pushing their own Linux based operating system is the proof. Will come the time where Microsoft decides to take over it's own platform and steam will be done for.
>Will come the time where Microsoft decides to take over it's own platform
Valve isn't simply scared of that prospect. Microsoft flat out told Valve it was their vision for the future all the way back in 2012, and Valve demoed Steam for Linux the next week.
Maybe Microsoft delayed their evil plan, or maybe it is a rare instance of a Microsoft employee being cool and giving early notice with enough time to actually prepare an alternative.
If Microsoft went walled garden now, Valve would take a hit to be sure, but they would probably be fine long term.
The users they would lose, would be the ones who don't spend any money on Steam, or who spend very little money on the platform.
I think it's a slow process that will slowly come together with new versions of windows.
You can already stream steam games on the Xbox, you just can't play them directly.
How?
GeForce Now
Ah
The issue for Microsoft is that they want a Windows platform that looks more like an Xbox, a closed platform that requires monthly subscription fees, and not an Xbox that looks more like Windows able to run anything the user wants without generating revenue for Microsoft.
Valve may seem big within the PC gaming bubble, but compared to Microsoft they are aimed at a small 'enthusiast' sliver of the market. That market is sustainable for a private company like Valve, but can't support what Microsoft needs to produce for their public shareholders.
Microsoft's options really are go big or go home, and historically companies have 'gone home' to their enterprise customers more than they've managed to consolidate control over the consumer market.
xbox has never been profitable
Microsoft should just stop making Xboxes and just invest more into the PC gaming market.
>writing an article based on nothing but speculation
The CEO of XBOX for close to 10 years.
Does he have dirt on the Pajeets or what's the deal? He's beyond incompetent.
Not only is he incompetent, he keeps saying the quiet part out loud and embarrassing Xbox. If you have Xbox fatigue he's like god's gift because he's accelerating their decline.
We've already seen what the future of gaming is, eventually everything will be on PC or PC hardware. Nintendo will probably be the last gaming company to detach themselves from hardware, but in 10 years it simply won't make sense to manufacture the hardware when there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs that exceed the hardware specifications Nintendo needs while costing less.
Having said that, Microsoft is going to be the first one to exit hardware. Their exclusives are shit, and not even the kind of mindless cinematic blockbuster shit that Sony shovels out, just plain shit that doesn't connect with anyone. All their games are on PC, and third parties are quickly recognizing that they make more money selling their games on Steam than they do renting them on Game Pass.
>Nintendo will probably be the last gaming company to detach themselves from hardware, but in 10 years it simply won't make sense to manufacture the hardware when there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs that exceed the hardware specifications Nintendo needs while costing less.
Imagine thinking this.
What decline? Microsoft is literally blowing past their ATH market cap every day for the past few weeks.
Microsoft is a tech megacorp, just because they're worth trillions of dollars doesn't mean they're satisfied with everything they do. If that were the case Zune would still be around.
Little bro, the $69B deal was closed. The masks are off and they're blowing their ATH day after day. They now are only second to Tencent in the gaming market.
You can retire your console warrior boots.
>They now are only second to Tencent in the gaming market.
Mobile exists.
Nobody cares about mobile games. I haven't played a game on my phone in like 5 years.
Mobile is the most profitable sector of gaming and also the largest part of the market with the most players. King is legitimately the most lucrative part of the ABK acquisition because Microsoft now owns Candy Crush.
Apple would be above them then.
>Apple would be above them then.
That includes mobile.
Yeah and MS owns candy crush now
I'd guess that Sony will exit before Microsoft simply because barring some major shift in the industry Microsoft uniquely has the ability to cripple PC gaming to benefit themselves, something they have done a number of times. When push comes to shove Microsoft will choose to try to push their OEMs out, and lock their platforms down to prevent third-party hardware and third-party software.
Seeing as how little the Steam Deck some compared to the Switch, Nintendo isn’t going anywhere. Only the consoles that Maskerade as PCs will get absorbed
You say that now but Steam Deck is a first generation hardware, and it's rapidly growing. It does not fall into the same niche as the Switch because it's bigger and more expensive and not as kid-friendly, but if it keeps having steady growth I could easily see a time where a Nintendo platform feels redundant in a market where there are cheap handheld PCs that let you have a forever library that never needs to be re-purchased.
There's already a handheld PC that's about the size of the Switch Lite but it costs twice as much and it has shitty battery life. Again though, the technology is evolving and eventually, those problems will be resolved and the chipsets will keep getting more impressive.
Eventually the hardware frontier is going to be less and less relevant to Nintendo. The place where they will always have limitless potential will be their game development and brands, and if/when the time comes where manufacturing their own consoles no longer makes sense, I expect they will adapt. Even for valve I don't expect that they will be in the hardware game forever because they have always wanted other companies to make the hardware for them when the market allows it.
I don't think Nintendo or Valve will get out of the hardware market any time soon because there is a value in having a device fully under their control, they may just start supporting more devices. Although if you look at the way Nintendo use to make their hardware compared to the Switch arguably they've already essentially farmed out a lot of the parts they don't really care about to Nvidia. Kind of like how Valve and AMD are sharing responsibility for the Deck in a way more typically seen in 'consoles' even if the Deck is a PC.
If anything the ease of getting semi-custom chips made I think is going to lead to a market more like the 1980s where IBM PC compatibles were not yet dominant and the computer market was a lot more diverse and siloed than has been more recently.
>Nintendo will never leave the hardware market.
Nintendo and pokemon will still be around even after humans are extinct in 3 million years. The fricking yellow rat and red plumber are infinite.
I bet you after the switch 2 they're just gonna do some metaquest shit and give us some VR hardware in like the mid 2030s. It will basically be their Wii 2
>There's already a handheld PC that's about the size of the Switch Lite but it costs twice as much
Companies just have to be patient. It's just like when flat screen plasma tvs first came out or even 4k tvs. Over time things will get cheaper You can find nice ass deals for 4k tvs now.
Instead of just making a handheld PC it will be easier to make a gameing dedicated tablet that can dock to tvs monitors.
It's just more simpler and safer to make gaming tablets. Not everyone wants to go up against nintendo in the "handheld" market. ( If microsoft drops out of the console race, then apple will take over with gaming iPad tablets apple arcade bullshit then it's pretty much joeover sony will try and throw there hat in but will get bulldozed)
It's gonna be fun to see the Steam Deck keep evolving but eventually I'm telling you It's just gonna turn into a damn tablet that you can attach controllers too.
If there's any group that generates fatigue it's the snoys, gray job demonstrating how out touch you are
Sony is annoying, Microsoft only inspires apathy.
So you agree
Did I ever claim I was a Sony fanboy or did you make an assumption?
>there will be a dozen other companies putting out handheld gaming PCs
This is a boring solution but since mobile technology is quickly catching up to consoles and PCs. (IPhone can play re8 and 4reamke)
I can see everything just turning into a gameing tablet. Then all the companies can just copy switch, so you can dock it on your tv or on the go. The reason why it has to be a tablet is because more people and the mainstream will buy it. You have to remember nintendo still owns the handheld market technically. It's just safer to turn future consoles into tablets.
Because no one's going to want to completely go up against Nintendo.
Eventually steam will release an app And you can play all their game.
Then that's that. Gameing dies no more physical.
Nintendo will definitely be the last ones to hold off the digital only massacre in the future.
>(IPhone can play re8 and 4reamke)
At what framerate and resolution? And for what? 20 mins before your phone is dead? Kek
It's probably running the ps4 version which is still impressive.
but I agree it's only a matter of time before mobile catches up completely.
>have to buy newest $1500 phone
>to play a worse version of decade old console games
>Being a Apple arcade chad
One day il make it to the club
>The year is 2027
>I'm playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare Remastered on my Apple iConsole Pro SE 2nd gen
>The remaster of the 2019 remake that is
>There's only 1 button, the rest of the game is handled by an AI that predicts what you'd want to do
Close but it won't be AI. It will be your neuralink you have to think to shoot and sprint.
Rough times for xbros
>ports of old games
>indie everyone forgot in a month
>flopfield
>racing game
lol
Eh could be worse 🙂
>Sequel and remake slop
>1 new IP
its dire bros
Why do they expect people to subscribe to gamepass when 95% of the games are woke shovelware? Literal "farming sims" (dating sims for autists) walking sims and visual novels that are all thinly veiled propaganda. The biggest game they've added in the last year was starfield, which turned out to be an absolute wreck. Until better games get added, with more of a focus on gameplay over pushing "the message," there's no reason for sane human beings or gamers to subscribe.
>Until better games get added
For better games to get added they would need to actually produce better game. I'm not sure they are capable of that.
I agree that the quality of their first party titles needs to improve, but that's not necessarily the only way to improve gamepass. They just need to add better third party games that are geared towards gamers, as opposed to pleasing the HR department. For example, why wasn't Boltgun added? That would have been perfect for gamepass. There are plenty of RPGs, shooters and strategy games that aren't being added because they're gameplay-focused and non-political.
XBOX SISTERS....
The numbers are way better than tortanic threads here lead to think.
Don't forget about gamepass 🙂
>ESL Coping General
Playstation has literally nothing. It's over.
>Tencent botted game
doesn't count
Starfield is such a half baked game. It has really good things in outposts and shipbuilding but there’s zero reason to use them because the game is faceroll easy even on very hard.
I don't understand why are the street shitting snoyjeets are extremely obsessed with starfield and anything related to Xbox?
Indians are the ones shilling for Starfield, you have it backwards.
good morning sirs please shill for remakestation 5 sirs and spam Ganker with anti xbox threads sirs
Trans rights are human rights
frick Xbox
playstation for the win
Why did they decide to bet their entire gaming division on "netflix but for video games" when most of those services are even profitable?
*not even profitable
The same reason why they designed Windows 8 for tablets. They misread the market.
>misread the market
That's a mistake in assuming ms has the good intention of following market trends.
They don't follow market trends, they're just arrogant and drunk on their commercial OS monopoly.
Every time ms has done shit like that, they're trying to DICTATE market trends, and they try to do it thru what control of the market space they have.
Their issue is that they often try to copy emerging trends to come out ahead on them. Like how Sony for some reason tries to copy Microsoft by making their own Netflix for games or how they made the PS Move against the Wii and now the PSPortal with the Switch. Microsoft sees Google or Apple have some success with tablets, phones, chromebooks, etc and wants to try to get a slice of that pie too and it never fails.
They do things like the mixed reality push on Windows 10 to try to dictate market trends but nothing ever comes from it because they constantly misread what consumers want. Or rather, consumers don't want what they're attempting to push so in that case you're right. But they totally trend chase Google and Apple when it comes to things not related to their OS.
And nothing of value was lost
The post-mortem Redfall interview with Phil Spencer in KindaFunnyGames. The entire FTC Xbox documents leaks. Microsoft Sirs CEO no longer ties his bonus pay to GamePass subscription counts because GamePass failed to grow for 3 years in a row. Don Mattrick Xbox One outselling the Series consoles, they have stalled the hardware sales for Xbox Series X and S. Another year, another no show for Xbox at Game Awards Show.
Total Xbox collapse 2023.
I'm so happy for PC gaming these days.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/State%20of%20gaming%20current%20day.jpg/
Smells like astroturf and street shitting
I accept your concession to the statements made. Xbox has lost so much, cope.
>The snoy lashes out as he cries
mfw I have a series X. mfw I feel like I should sell it at this point and get a ps5
PS5 also has nogaems. Build a PC
na I hate sitting at my computer
Lol. No you don't. I have a series x and its dope.
>Play all the latest greatest multiplats.
>Got dongpass and a huge library of previous gold titles.
>Buy other games if they really interest me
As a kid who grew up with like 5 games, i'm fricking set. No games could come for the next 40+ years and i'd still have plenty to play. But sure, go buy a playstation for...spiderman. Go shill somewhere else, homosexual.
based xskelly, playstation is positively boring now
now that they bought activision they're now financially in a position where devs will have to start kissing up to xbox
There's more games on PS+ Premium than game pass. Xbox is still just an American "we made a playstation too" console, nothing special about it and that's why only Americans buy it because all they have is marketing. There are also a lot of third party games coming out that won't get an xbox release.
>moronic weebvomit nonsense
>muh ps+ game count
>a huge chunk of them are streaming only
>many of them also suck in comparison
ask me how i know
Why? Both consoles have the same slop, except Xbox has BC, gamepass is better than Sony’s shit, and the only first party game worth mentioning on the PS5 is miles morales man 2: the dlc for 1
I sold mine and bought a Steam Deck. Emulating any console game I want, and got my whole Steam library plus non-Steam games because it’s an open platform
Snoy Black person hands typed this.
At this point playstation gays are discord trannies actively conspiring against Nintendo, Valve and Ms believing that would give PS5 any games.
Playstation is already on its way out, Xbox is only thinking about heading that route.
This whole article is speculation, but MS should have never based like 85% of their business model on game pass. It's a sinking ship, even if that ship takes 10 years to sink.
Xbox is literally the poorgay choice. There's a reason as to why they released an inferior, digital only version of its own console
It's kind of weird because they are trying to push cloud gaming so hard but no third world country would be able to go use a cloud service well
>blow your entire fortune, good will and enterprise making shitty propaganda nobody asked for
>WTF how did this happen
>nobody asked for
but that's the point? do you need entertainment to keep on living? or literally anything produced by companies? no. you could change your lifestyle and still survive. but you won't, because it's convenient, because of trends, fomo, etc. Companies create demand. microsoft missed in this case, or went in a decade too early
They need a new CEO and marketing team.
MAYBE GAMEPASS NEEDS AVATARS AND MORE ADS
>put WoW on the gamepass
ggez
Microsoft is probably the richest company in the world. Game Pass / Future Xbox consoles are not going anywhere.
they're #2 behind apple
what is xbox and phil's endgame by constantly telling us xbox is a failing brand or how they aren't trying to compete with sony? like does he expect me to go out and buy seven xboxes out of pity?
Please buy an Xbox Series console. Please.
I don't like nintnedo, but his is sad. that image is sad.
No he expects the FTC to let him buy up a bunch more developers
Microsoft wants you to believe that they are the scrappy underdog up against the mean corporate giants like sony and nintendo who are just in it for the money.
>remaking remasters
>remastering 3yr old game
>shitty ps portal
>make only one type of game
>raising price of console because they can
with behavior like sony's, you'd swear they are just in it for the money
plus nintendo isn't actually competition now, in fact their usa hq is on microsoft campus in redmond
No, he expects to be perceived as the little company that could so that he gets the green light to swing uncle gates' massive dong and buy a frickton of relevant companies and keep them as hostages
>microsoft "might" exit the gaming business.
>microsoft "MIGHT"
>MIGHT
kek sure buddy they've been saying this for the past 10+ years
mightcrosoft
Try the last 22 years. They have been saying MS might exit the gaming business since the original Xbox in 2001
>Spencer: Microsoft almost abandoned Xbox brand after the Xbox One launch
https://www.shacknews.com/article/121384/last-one-at-the-table-phil-spencer-on-inheriting-xbox-one-and-launching-xbox-series-x
lol
pc recently fried my mobo which took out my 4090 and cpu with it and I am not sure what to do anymore. Currently use a 15inch laptop for non gaming stuff. I dont really want to spend another 2k on replacing my pc ether.
just how. faulty 4090 that rekt your psu?
I have no idea nothing works anymore. Tried my 4090 in another pc and it doesnt work, my pc doesnt boot, tried a new power supply still doesnt boot. just assuming mobo and graphics card has gone to shit along with power supply. at this point I would just buy a whole new pc.
So what happened to Sony today that lead to a random Xbox shitpost thread. Is TLOU 2 Remastered still getting slaughtered in youtube dislikes?
Microsoft should weather the storm and fight off the japs. Sony and Nintendo should always be kept in check by an American company.
So these are americucks wet dreams huh
They’ll be more profitable than Sony once the COD money comes rolling in. Playstation’s margins are more slim than XBox or Nintendo and they make most of their money from licensing fees for micro transactions
Why wait? MS has Windows, and by extension like 95% of PC players. Xbox as a brand is vestigal and Halo/Gears in their prime were the only real reasons it could ever be argued otherwise.
Because Microsoft brings in more revenue from Xbox gamers than they do from Windows gamers.
If revenue was all they care about, they wouldnt have made vscode free and windows so easy to pirate for personal use
They probably invest that much money into gaming because they want to compete with Apple and slow down the rising of Linux gaming
Office and gaming are literally the only reason people use windows over other 2
I'm surprised they haven't given up already
Shut your fricking mouth.
Are you braindead Black person? Xbox could die tomorrow and nothing would happen to Microsoft's stock because it's such a minuscule part of the company.
Who made the $69B acquisition just now, Xbox, or Microsoft? Does it matter?
Microsoft, and no.
And by the way, Xbox services were up 7% in that report. That's without ABK games in it yet.
Meanwhile one man is doing nothing and winning the race.
>re posting an article from Sept 21 that was already spammed here
>cropped out the part where it says written by Sanchay Saksena
>IGN India
What happened now that Sonygays are posting old articles?
who cares if its india moron, its what the shareholders want and what the company said. likely a meeting with shareholders this was revealed
most the fricking corporations are owned by oil tycoons in middle east, or tencent not NA companies or investors lol
Xbox failed to grow GamePass. Xbox consoles are selling worse than the Xbox One. Don Mattrick did better. Xbox will never win a GOTY. Phil Spencer is a conman.
No, gamepass is growing
Didn't they say its also hurting game sales or something?
MS has been saying that for 10+ years now
its like sunk cost fallacy or something for billionaires, phil spencer is the greatest con man, conning moronic share holders that subscription based model for games was a good idea, lol its not and never will be
Still better than Sony. Imagine willingly being a cuck
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
too good to be true
phils bringing more than hype, he's bringing games.
He's the reason Yakuza and Persona are on Xbox.
xbox and playstation were peak gaming beside pc ps1/2/360pc. Then 2014 and that's it golden age over and just shite and tendie pedo posting
Gaming ended in 2014
Take your meds Eric
it ended with the 360 everything after than in gayming growth is soccer moms playing canfycrush, no innovation, even after a decade no massive shift in graphics vr sucks, all genres set in stone, sjwism, downloads, n media, subsciptions etcm gaymes are dead for a decade when the last physical media goes for the ps3/360/pc its over
Consoles are on their way out. Game dev cycles are too long now so consoles don't get titles until several years after launch. Plus, fewer and fewer people even own televisions as many people just stream on their laptop and phone. Future of gaming are mobile tablet devices like Steamdeck and Switch.
Yeah, well frick off with gamepass and any other streaming service model bullshit and maybe people will buy.
These Black folk own more studios than any other publisher or console manufacturer in the world. They own like a 100 studios and none seem to be making any games. On paper nobody should even be able to compete with Xbox.
That's what happens when troons run a company.
always late to the party and no it is a funeral, gayming has been dying for a decade
What insanity is this? Let's buy all of these studios, and never do anything with them. What happens to these studios when Xbox goes under. They just cease to exist because Microsoft is asshoe, and they never sell them to anyone else.
i mean its clear they bought activision/blizzard to get revenue avenue once they leave. it was never to save xbox as a console, xbox is never gonna catch up to ps5. so the brain move was to simply buy studios and have your fingers in the pie after they pull out from the hardware division (they will)
then life will go back to classic sony vs nintendo but this time nintendo is winning and ps5 can't compete with switch or switch 2 in ww appeal. once nintendo can run games at a half decent rate to get more 3rd party onboard its over for sony in the console space as well. they ran out of ip to really milk.
Microsoft aren't going to be uninvolved in hardware, if they stop making consoles it's because they think other hardware eg. smart tv, PC, smartphones can make up the gap for game pass
>ps5 can't compete with switch or switch 2 in ww appeal
PS5 has been beating Switch all year in worldwide sales. They're also not in competition, Switch game sales are dominated by first party IP that's been around for 30 to 40 years. Playstation has always been favoured for third party. The success of the PS5 has little bearing on how well a handheld Switch 2 does.
sony sells more in the west, nintendo sells more in japan. there isn't going to be a major shift when the switch can run other 3rd party games, the western world that is already on sony consoles will stick with sony consoles because that's where there games are. spending $70 to buy the same game but on the switch 2 is not an interesting prospect to your average consumer.
MS is happy with Xbox where they are. They're treating the Xbox as hardware people can buy just to directly access their services immediately without a PC and do not really care about spending massive amounts of money to push xbox console sales anymore. So until the day Xbox console sales drop to 0, they'll keep producing Xbox consoles just to stay in the industry making money off xbox gamepass and the 30% cut they get from game sales.
DO NOT LET XBOX SELL BETTER
FRICK OFF MICRODICKS
Didn't these homosexuals buy two of the biggest vidya companies?
How the frick are they calling it quits now?
It's a ruse to appear weak just so they can get the purchase pushed through by saying they'll go out of business if they arent allowed to buy act-blizz. Now that they've bought them they're secure and will never face trouble ever again.
What if you just made and sold games?
>Was actually thinking of getting Xbox after resisting for 20 years straight
>See this shit
Why should I buy a console the god damn president of is basically saying won't be supported in just a few years?
Nah, I guess I'll pass
>reads snoy article full of conjecture
>takes it as gospel
moron alert
Muttmerica already conrols Playstation, so they don't ned Xbox any more.
Snoy cope is really potent isn't it? Yeah bro, Microsoft just spent over 100 billion dollars buying studios just so they can close up shop in a couple of years. Kek
So that means that by 2027 or 2028 they'll completely get rid of Xbox as a gaming device or gaming brand? Damn, Sony and Nintendo will soar even higher at that point.
Sega and Atari were video game console manufacturers. Both exist as publishers today.
I have a feeling of deja vu with these articles, surely they're right this time
Big companies are always slow to react and out of touch, full of bureaucracy and inefficiencies. Microsoft is about as big as it gets, I don't think any amount of market research will help them understand gamers unless they release the N-BOX
Watch out you'll make Jez Corden write another article about how much Transbox is back baby!!!!!!
Do you know what a blessing it would be if xbox just fricked off and died? Almost every shitty anti-consumer move started there, they bring 0 studios anyone gives a frick about to the table other than recent acquistions.
If xbox died, that would leave a gap for another company to compete with playstation. Who could step up to the challenge?
Sega
Apple
Delusional.
I don't think enough people see the dangers of apple entering the market. It's gonna be like getting a pet tiger walking around your home at night. Surly things will be fine
I personally think MS will be fine but worst case scenario what if apple kills off sony and MS and they pop the frick off?
Half of you fricks will convert into tendies.
Actual joeover
the industry was already ruined, who cares? indie games are already way better than most AAA games.
MS will be fine, it's just that they'll pull out of making boxes.
Apple for all their faults has shown tremendous restraint and they fully fund games for their apple arcade service, they also ban any mtx or gacha from them. They may bring in an age of quality games.
But you and most people don't seem to understand the nature of the question wasn't what we want to happen. It's what we think will happen. SEGA would be great but they're never ever coming back to hardware. Apple now has their own chip, their own rabid fanbase and even their own graphics backend. Apple is also big enough to make such a move.
>Its the 2030s
>MS isn't happy says frick it exits hardware market and starts doing software.
>Ms sells all there newly bought shit to apple
>Ipads and iphones are as strong as PCs now
>Apple slices sonys head off.
>they try nintendo but the brand and pokemon are too powerful so they back off
>nintendo is the last company doing physical games
>now it's just apple nintendo and PC as your choices.
That's probably what it's looking like chuds.
>Make everything but Banjo Threeie
Spencer is quite moronic isn't he?
>Halo 1-3, Reach, ODST gone
Sad. How can they not see making quality games is better for business than making average cash grabs? Look at freaking Ubisoft.
Everyone wants to turn gaming into subscription services like television, but the markets and attitudes of the people consuming in them isn't the same.
Phil's gonna have one allmighty big dick slapped out of his mouth in 2027.
They might well end it now. All consoles should just stop existing. They don't seem to want to produce cool games that the main video game market demographic would love. It's all just about pandering to boring people.
Why don't they just make some fricking games? Even Sony has their yearly movie game which usually sells decently. Microsoft literally makes nothing except Halos that flop horribly. The last Microsoft game with any hype was fricking Crackdown 3
>Why don't they just make some fricking games?
Cause their way of thinking is buying every studio up like they're at an art gallery and saying hey, look at what I painted!
Phil is basically a frat boy at college. (A mellow one) but is still spoiled and uses daddy's credit card throwing as much money at every problem is possible.
And hey in the end it might just fricking work who knows.
the snoy asshurt since the deal went through has been astronomical.
Thank you for helping fund my gamepass when you bought CoD btw fellas. Maybe I'll put in a good word with Phil and you can get some Skyrim-themed skin packs in the future or something when TES6 releases.
Absolutely no one is excited for TES6. Deep down we all know it's going to be Starfield with swords and microsoft will the the laughing stock once again.
No it's going to be Skyrim with swords and tens of millions will buy it because it's Skyrim 2, you delusional homosexual.
There's only so many times you can slap "From the makers of Skyrim!" on a turd before people get tired of the shitty games and stop buying.
>buy
10 million players on game pass if they're lucky lol, starfield got a boost because it was on xbox and was an fps. tes6 would garner as much interest from the fps dudebros on xbox. plus bethesda's reputation is in the gutter after fo76 and starfield, so it's gonna be a tough sell. especially because it's going to be the redguard game and it's going to be heavily politicized one way or another. "chuds" are the core base for elder scrolls, if it's too pozzed they won't buy it until it's under $10 on steam with years worth of sex mods out.
And it literally went into early development like two months ago or some shit. Waiting till the mid 2030s for an creation engine from the early 00s.
If they were in any other industry besides gaming they would have gone bankrupt years ago.
Is the original Prey available on the Series X? I can't get it to run on a modern PC and I don't have an old PS3 or 360
yes
it's back compat
i assume you have it physically?
Maybe they should make good games. How have they let 343 ruin Halo for so long? How did they let Starfield release as it did?
Shitty fake news
i'll kill myself if you don't sub for game pass
-Philly
Kek. This made my monday and probably the rest of the week
Spencer couldn't save the brand regardless of his efforts or time. He managed to acquire several notable studios and publishers but after their heyday.
Pretty fricking smart. The real money is in SaaS and desktop gaming as an aggregator of a ton of studios. Let the moronic japs cannibalize each other for their tiny market.
>Jeremy/Barry thread
YAWN!
sounds like an empty threat. glad I don't buy Xbox shit
maybe the modern console experience is just shit.
Here's what I want:
>COMPLETED games on a disk/cartridge that I can put into an OFFLINE console and play that way for the next few decades
Here's what I get:
>a gimped computer/surveillance device where I don't even own the games I download where 1 shitty game takes up a double digit percentage of the drive space
I have a Series S, my first console since the PS3, and I spend more time updating it and the games than I do playing anything. and I can fit what, 5 games on it? boomers are always right. things WERE better then and decline happens because of complacency and incompetence.
>game doesn't work without internet connection
This is where I noped away from consoles.
It's the best it's ever been now that it's basically just a fixed spec pc
the only offline console you can get this and previous gen is nintendo switch. It's over