Realistically, where do we go from here?
I think the only thing set in stone is Mario & Luigi being dead, since I don't see Nintendo deciding to revive the series on their own without Alphadream. As for Paper Mario, will they keep forcing the new formula with Sticker Star 4? I think Stockholm syndrome is starting to set in with people defending the latest abomination, so they wouldn't even be wrong keeping it up at this point. But the real wildcard is the SMRPG remake. It seems inevitable that will be well received, so is it possible that it will get a follow up (let's ignore that Paper Mario and SSS were supposed to be the unofficial sequels)? Or even influence the current state of PM? To make things even more confused it seems obvious at this point that the Mario Mandate is no more (if it even existed in the first place). So all the limitation that castrated the RPGs are gone.
I expect a bunch of homosexualy Youtubers to complain about it.
Literally just play any normal fricking rpg. I promise you, you can play games even if they don‘t have the nintendo branding or the funny italian mustache midget
Super star saga easily mogs the majority of rpgs
I assure you that I played more JRPGs than you. Not western ones though, those are fricking trash.
You mean the ones without action commands?
Mario RPGs are some of the few that require actual skills. Wanna compare M&L, where if you can't dodge you die in 2 hits, to the standard attack/attack/attack/attack/heal FF gameplay loop?
As soon as they make them fun I will
Though I'm liking cassette beasts so far.
>you can
here’s the thing… i don’t WANT to!
"normal" RPGs fricking suck. We still haven't gotten anything with the pacing of Superstar saga where
-enemies die very quickly
-YOU die very quickly
-bosses are either killed in 5 minutes or less, or you die
-there's actually a good deal of freedom
-super moves actually take skill to execute, aren't just some resource dump
-super moves also don't take absurdly long to pull off, looking at you Partners in time and Dream team
Trannabe is going to continue fricking over Paper Mario. Don't mistake the SMRPG as a sign of things to come. This contrarian does whatever he fricking wants, and he isn't going to be joining in on the festivities. Hell, he is more likely to double down than admit he was ever wrong.
He eventually gave up on Tingle.
this, tanabe will just shift to using SMRPG as the excuse now that M&L is dead
they should have been origami generals using the supplies as weapons, or just origami creatures that incorporate them somewhere
man I'm just so fricking mad at how much more creative this shit is. its like I don't care that they're using real-world shit or over-relying on the papercraft aesthetic but they don't even use it well
>rubber band is a snake because it constricts
like its so basic but its miles ahead of whatever the frick rubberman in the actual game is. a fricking straw doll but with rubber bands? I don't know. I'm so fricking tired I don't even want an RPG anymore I just want a game that looks like it has any actual effort put in instead of looking like a asset store shitpost hobbled together in an hour
I hate this man so much, the moment he became a producer most of the games under his purview started to suck ass thanks to his terrible ideas.
Not really. Just Paper Mario, and maybe a couple of tiny games like Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash.
Most notably, he has produced all the Retro games, and the moment they asked for more freedom and cut ties with Tanabe, they entered a decade long slump with jackshit being made. Coincidence?
You forgot Fire Emblem which put Waifu mechanics above all and can only make games with passible gameplay or passable stories, not both. Or Advance Wars, which died because he couldn't add waifu mechanics and had to have it's remake shopped out to fricking wayforward.
You might want to check again, Tanabe has never produced FE or AW.
Office supplies bosses were a fine concept but lackluster in execution by; not actually naming them, and not characterizing them enough
>Office supplies bosses were a fine concept
Frick off.
I like them.
SOUL
SOULLESS
you got it backwards anon, suspecting you got it backwards on purpose for attention
I hope you haven't been having such a bad week this is what you need to do to get (You)s my guy
Super Mario RPG will do well and convince Nintendo to make or commission more original Mario RPGs. I don't think they'll go back to the Mario & Luigi name though, they'll be called something else, maybe even Super Mario RPG 2 and so on if they keep collaborating with Square Enix.
Paper Mario finally excises the pointless remaining RPG elements like turn-based battles and becomes full-on action adventure with a focus on exploration and puzzles.
We return to tradition
https://gamerant.com/super-mario-rpg-remake-luigi-series-spinoff-remakes-new-games-good-why/
>Super Mario RPG is so beloved and enjoyed by everyone so let's hope they do the same thing they did last time and make shitty fricking games for years instead of making an actual sequel
There are a few issues you aren't considering
>The mario mandate exists only in Tanabe's head
>Tanabe is the director of PM
>Tanabe is an idiot
There will never be a good PM game again unless Shiggy himself comes up to Tanabe in the lunchroom and kicks him in the balls. Best case scenario is they give Mario RPGs to another company.
>The mario mandate exists only in Tanabe's head
yes but he has the authority to make it stick. even if he made it up, nobody wants to stop him.
Imagine if the game was just called Mario Story outside of Japan too. We would have avoided this entire Paper homosexualry that snowballed into a catastrophic abomination that killed the series. Such a tiny decision doomed everything. I'd go back in time to kill the NoA homosexual localizer who had this bright idea.
With how great TTYD was, it was the beginning of the end when that chest made jokes about Mario being like paper. The homosexual devs thought that was pretty funny and kept doubling down on the joke with each new release. Meme tier humor truly ruins things.
Localisation should be fricking gutted. Devs need to start hiring bi linguals with knowledge of both cultures to oversee translation to stop localisation teams from poisoning the well
Japs make good games. Americans are obsessed with how hard they can vitrue signal and how many dicks an hour they can carve into a vegana. Stop letting them poison the well and damage franchises
I wanna say it started with Kirby's Epic Yarn, and the choice to go all in on paper. Nintendo's papercraft games are mere shells of the games they're based on.
Yoshi's Woolly World is the only good Yoshi game since Island.
Didn't take much to be better than DS. Then crafted world proves my point.
Crafted World was a modern take on Story. You can argue that it was a bad idea to begin with, but there was no point in making another Island clone after WW.
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They already called him Paper Mario in the original ads in Japan
The original game already had a couple of paper jokes, like Mario slowly floating down after falling. Localization frickery wouldn't change the timeline.
Extremely minor stuff. It's the title that shifted the focus later on. Of course if it was called Mario fricking STORY, nobody would have thought "It's fine without a story, so do we really need one?".
Same shit with Sonic imagine if there was no Classic/Modern split or Classic was a one off only meant for Generations
That's good segregation though. I don't want modern garbage seeping into classic.
>Make the 10/10 theater aesthetic for battles, with shit like the audience throwing stuff at you and stage equipment occasionally falling.
>Throw it away after one game.
I will never not be mad.
It's still one of the most soulful games ever made, I guess you really can't catch lightning in a bottle twice, especially if you insist the lightning bolt is paper.
It makes no aesthetic sense and betrays the principles of game design!
Who let you out of the asylum?
Play romhacks
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No.
The decomp of Paper Mario will usher in an age of fanmade hacks greater than any of the Sticker Star games, you should know by now that modern Nintendo is largely garbage.
is that the one that made everything look like Color splash?
no, it's the one that backports a bunch of TTYD mechanics and features into the first game
this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFngd-Uq6p0
The one you're thinking of is called New Paper Mario, I think it was abandoned but it makes for a pretty good preview of what a official remake of 64 would look like since it removes any originality from the original game, one example of this is anachronistically turning the Star kids into Lumas.
Mario hasn't had an RPG since the SNES and thoese games on Game Boy.
Should I buy the physical copy of SMRPG?
I have a voucher left over but the original was one of my favorite games of all time so I kind of want a physical copy (even if it is soulless with no manual or anything because israelites have ruined video games)
I will never forget the cycle of Hype -> Denial-> Sadness -> Rage that Sticker Star caused this board lyl.
Everyone (including me) lost their fricking shit when it was first shown off and there was a chainchomp partner, and when subsequent trailers released a year later the panic began to set in and the rest was history
Origami king was kind of similar actually. People kept trying to find evidence that the game is closer to the rpg paper marios until the game leaked and they couldn‘t cope anymore
Why the frick did people have hopes after 2 Sticker Stars?
The first trailer showed partners, so clearly Nintendo learned their lesson and was going back to the original formula... right?
They were soulles partners and the trailer was proof enough
>le generic bomb omb with standard nu-Nintendo writing
>>le generic bomb omb with standard nu-Nintendo writing
People defending that fricking bomb drove me up the wall. It's established in like every single Mario game that bob-ombs don't die when they explode, and they make this big obnoxious show of one exploding for cheap internet bait. God that shit sucked.
Only for coping morons, it was pretty obvious just from seeing battle footage.
I actually went into cope hyperdrive when sticker star released and tried to convince myself it was good. I was on-Ganker defending it savagely and even made a bunch of memes/image macros accusing people who didn’t like it of being “neo-/v/“
Yes I am ashamed.
I wonder if the sycophantic zoomers that simped for Sticker Star get were oldgays are coming from after playing 64 on switch online.