wizards physical sales went down by a lot because of various reasons that wizards wasnt selling enough cards.
rather than reducing the price of the cards to attract more people or make them cheaper in general they put them in landfills and burned then outright.
reducing the price would have made people accustomed to lower prices and they would not be comfortable buying mtg packs at expensive prices anymore.
during that time it also came out that on average to produce a booster pack, not including shipping costs them about 3 cents.
>mtg booster can be anywhere from 5$ to 50$ depending on edition >it literally only costs them a few pennies to make
jesus fricking christ.
how longnose can wizards be?
What kind of mentally moronic coksucking imbecile moron buys fricking booster packs instead of pirating jpgs and printing them lmao? jk jk, who the frick plays physical mgt when manalink/shandalar exists lol.
sure but ET is still basically just associated with the crash now, people will post it as a way of mocking the current crash (i.e shit games and bloat)
Unironically we already had internal predictions not only for gaming but Entertainment in general going to shit thanks to Blackrock+Vanguard ESG shit powered by WEF, that everyone is selling or removing their shares into something else.
It may take 2 or 3 years but all will take is a giant bomb for everything go down asap.
Which may come from disney since all of the MCU shit is coming out this year
All started with World of Warcraft back in 2004
In fact many minor crashes happened leading even to the death of a few genres like WW2 shooters and so on.
I legitimately blame WoW for a lot of what's wrong with the current industry. The default AAA template has a lot in common with WoW's game design choices. The modern open world game with RPG elements is strikingly similar to a single player WoW. Instead of making MMOs because the market for them crashed, they repackaged them to sell to normalgays instead and gave them skinner boxes to play around in with color coded loot, rpg elements, side quests with ! and ? on the map, talents, and crafting in an open world.
Mobile games did more damage to the industry than MMOs ever could've dreamed.
5 months ago
Anonymous
LOL no mobile games are saving the industry. F2P mobile asian games shit all over AAA crap.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>gameplay? no but there are cute girls you can gamble real money to look at!
Get the frick off my board, cancer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
kys yesterday
Nice "riveting gameplay", anon.
>muh gameplay
LMAO of course. No Blizzard game in like 20 years had good gameplay.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and your """""game""""" has no gameplay at all. What's your point here?
5 months ago
Anonymous
kys yesterday
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nice "riveting gameplay", anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What was this game called Blue Reflection or some shit (but that comes up as a PS4 game)?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Hina Archive
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's called touhou, those are remilia scarlet and sakuya izayoi
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, most of those MTX practices were made popular by EA. So you can blame Peter Moore, the guy responsible for the success of the Xbox 360. That man was based but he also ruined in the entire industry.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure those mobile games were raking in billions not because they've formulated and perfected the human feedback loop of want and receiving. MMOs experimented heavily on that but they were never as honed as when mobile games entered the industry proper.
5 months ago
Anonymous
MMOs were the precursor and companies learned to exploit consumers because of them but regular games were infected fairly quickly as well. This interview with Peter Moore from 2012 is very good, he's very candid about the industry and he basically called everything that was going to happen in gaming right now back in 2012.
https://www.wired.com/2012/10/peter-moore-interview/
Moore had a good grasp on the industry, that's why the 360 did well under him and fell apart when he left.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Mobile games's emergence was already on the up and up during that time. Moore only read the trend on where it was going. Angry birds was already a thing. League of Legends perfecting the freemium model was already a thing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it was precipitated by the rise of Facebook games, which also took inspiration from being MMO designs and other older games like Neopets. But Moore does have some good insight about the entire industry and not just mobile >Wired: As bigger-budget games become more expensive, what happens to them? >Moore: We've already seen what's happened: The higher-end games that land, land well. Everything else just falls off the cliff. If you think about the industry today, I don't know what they exact numbers are, but the top 20 games globally probably deliver 80 percent of the revenue. Anything that doesn't hit that top 20 or 25 finds it very difficult to justify itself, its existence, and you kind of wonder why you did it. >The big games are getting bigger, but then there's a chasm to the next level. It used to be you could sit nicely in the middle, and have a cost-effective game that did okay and kept developers in work, and you do a sequel to it. Those days are behind us. The big are getting bigger: Call of Dutys, Battlefields you look at the charts, things like Red Dead Redemption.... We deliver usually about half a dozen of those that sit in the top 20. >If you look at what we needed to do, we put up big bets and now we have more marketing money to put behind our top-quality games. And we just don't work in that middle tier anymore because we moved our resources to the Facebook platform, the mobile phone platform and pushing people back to PC. That's where those people have gone.
This part is fairly insightful too >The deeper you get in the back end of the generation, the less that a new IP is going to work. You start saving up your creative bullets for when you think the next generation of hardware is going to come along. So you start thinking in those terms. It's very difficult, if not impossible – I can't think of new IP that launches five or six years into a generation of gaming hardware that is successful. It's just not the time to do it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Bur Moore failed to predict the rise of live service games. He always thought it was going to keep getting bigger and to succeed you must keep getting bigger. Live service games disproved that but brought about a new kind of hell he didn't see coming.
5 months ago
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> He always thought it was going to keep getting bigger and to succeed you must keep getting bigger. Live service games disproved that but brought about a new kind of hell he didn't see coming.
We've actually seen that same scenario happen with live service games. Occasionally something cheaper sneaks in but in general, the production values required to make one keep increasing in the same way it happened for MMORPGs. You could make a Tibia or Runescape and do well before WoW came out, after WoW you needed to throw a lot more money into your game for it to stand a chance and live service is fairly similar.
The core issue is always going to be that the players time is finite, they can't play 4 or 5 live service games unless they're a NEET. So you need to do something to grab their attention and lure them away from the ones that they're already investing their time in and that's easier said than done due to sunk cost. Some companies use their massive budget to do that, others use sex appeal, and very rarely you get a game that does it by being unique, innovative, and fun and making people want to play it.
>But Moore failed to predict the rise of live service games
I wonder if he thought more companies would go the route that he did, where they could get away with selling the same game over again every year like FIFA, Madden, and CoD do.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Even innovative games get left in the dirt. It really just does seem like luck at the end of the day.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>The core issue is always going to be that the players time is finite
This is why modern mobile games have become the driver of live service models. They’re cheap to make and are designed so that your monetary investment and time investment can be as much or as little as you want it to be. Sure you can whale like a motherfricker and grind your face off for hours, but you can also not spend a cent and play 5 minutes a day.
Every modern gacha game is like this.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's genius when you think about it. They occupy the players time while they're doing things when they can't play normal vidya like when taking a shit, eating, or waiting in the dentists office or something. So even when players have a different game to play, the mobile games still manage to keep players logging in every day. Then when they're bored of the other game they can come back and grind their asses off if they choose to do so.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty much. Moving forward every live service that isn’t a mobile game or charging a sub is operating on a tiny profit margin if they’re even in the black at all.
Why operate continuously at AAA game dev costs just to make content no one likes in Destiny 2 that puts people off because of the huge personal investment? Especially when some asiatics can just put their most popular character from Blue Archive in a one piece swimsuit and make a bajilion dollars because it’s the most accessible game imaginable?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, such independent studios as Valve and Tencent. Cmon, he has a point but writes absolute cringe at the same time.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Damn, he perceptive
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's all the same slippery slope. WoW get the snowball in motion. it's rolling down through gacha and microtransactions, it's going to become huge and smash the industry with large impact.
So, this was a physical games problem and a new upcoming start up for the western market (nintendo) showed up when most of the companies were bleeding money on various investments while also scaring stock holders with less than projected yearly revenue. I don't think you can find a new company that can save video games and make them fun and new again, like before. This is going to keep like this until no one really buys video games anymore except for streamers and journalists.
except instead of being a fad that actually risked being forgotten, video games are now a industry and cultural pillar, they'll never go away. the shift will provbably be from the producer part and not the consumer part, since consumers can easily make simple and cheap games smash hits (see indie shit like palworld and lethal company, but more traditional games like cuphead or ultrakill also come to mind).
basically this whole "crash" will be cleaning off the AAA dinosaurs who can't make a game for shit without spending millions in budget and the smaller / more versatile devs like indie publishers or fromsotf, or rising publishers liek neowiz and larian will take their place as their production is either actually contained and sustainable, or can actually justify their budget with high quality, or never had that kind of problem to begin with
There was allegedly 3~4 times more E.T. carts made than all existing Atari consoles manufactured and sold at that time, people were really expected to buy a new 2600 just to plat it - how the frick is that supposed to be a non-factor, when that prediction missing hard was a fatal blow to Atari?
I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not might be another indictment on the gaming industry, but ET's biggest issue is that everyone returned it, so it's net sales were relatively low. By contrast I've noticed people have only more recently turned against Starfield, and on release it was seen as just another Bethesda game as opposed to an emblem of why that studio is terrible (It's been terrible since Fallout 3)
Didn't the Chinese laws ruin Gacha? I'm waiting for those games to start dropping like flies.
Briefly, but the government saw the revenue impacts it would have and walked the measures back. Not all of them, but enough of them to the point where chinkshit gacha is still a viable business option, sadly. Turns out the Chinese Communists are ruthless capitalists after all, who knew.
I thought Oblivion was... okay. Definitely a step down from Morrowind and not as good as it could've been but the game itself is relatively inoffensive. The main game is solid, the quests and skills give you a lot of room to experiment (As long as you're willing to not cheese the system) but is largely held back by the terrible level scaling. But the expansions actually manage to be pretty good, IMO. But Fallout 3 shows exactly how awful and lazy Bethesda can and are willing to be, and it's become emblematic of every future Bethesda game since. Terrible gunplay even for the time, even now Bethesda games lack basic mechanics partial reloads. A horrible and extremely slow opening sequence making replaying the game a chore. A story that feels like it was written by morons, for morons. I could go on, but I cite Fallout 3 specifically because you'll notice that each of these flaws are replicated almost to a T in every Bethesda game since. Oblivion had some of them, but not nearly as many.
>I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well
In all fairness it was gamepass day 1, we don't have sales figures we have playercounts. We have no idea if starfield met projections
Things like gamepass are part of the problem. Disney+ and all those other streaming services are hemmorhaging money because fricking obviously paying 15 bux a month for everything doesn't make as much money as paying 60 bucks for every new thing.
This, but add YouTube, Twitch and the other big on-demand video delivering sites. Pretty much every streaming site is starting to feel that their ads aren't compensating for their product being either cheap or free, and some of the big ones (like YouTube) have already started gatekeeping to maximize profits as much as they can. The hard reality is that game streaming, live streaming and other video streaming is just not economically justifiable unless you're willing to charge the consumer WAY more than they currently are.
Moving 24 frames (at least) of video per second to a billion users is expensive.
The problem is modern AAA publishers consistently conflate retail with player expenditure with live services (Gamepass) and use that to manipulate sales reports. ActBlizz is notorious for this, often mixing up sell-through #s with total sales. Lots of smoke and mirrors
Unironically we already had internal predictions not only for gaming but Entertainment in general going to shit thanks to Blackrock+Vanguard ESG shit powered by WEF, that everyone is selling or removing their shares into something else.
It may take 2 or 3 years but all will take is a giant bomb for everything go down asap.
Which may come from disney since all of the MCU shit is coming out this year
There is no crash, everything is fine. ATH's. Keep your money in the markets please. Pretty pretty please.
>I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not
I think it underperformed massively and the only reason it doesn't affect Bethesda (yet) is that retailers trusted them blindly and bought lots of copies to sell to store customers. Walmart are getting rid of their copies (destroying them) so clearly retail bought a LOT more than were (or going to be) sold. think about what that means for future games. retailers aren't going to wander into the same situation a second time. the next big game, especially if it's related to Microsoft or Xbox in any way, isn't going to get all those "pre-sales". stores aren't going to stock massive amounts and I think it's underappreciated how many game copies are still being sold physically (even though what's being sold is just a download code in disguise).
Can't wait for Scott the Woz or whoever is the new JonTron rip-off to make a terrible movie about this with a special appearance of a old decrepit retired Todd Howard
How appropriate, I just watched the AVGN movie the other day, and the day after I turned on to TV to a jeopardy type show and there was a guy wearing an E.T. shirt in it, the universe must be trying to tell me something
>MFW watching the same OP posts every single day >Oh boy another doomsaying post about how the industry is dead for real this time >Oh the thread talking about the layoffs, it's quickly degenerated into celebrating it because "MUH TRANNIEZ".
I'm not expecting Ganker to become a magically tolerant liberal board, I just expect them to GIVE A SHIT in their posting. Christ you don't have to be a fricking mouth breathing moron to post on Ganker or say slurs.
>I go into threads I know are obviously rehashed bait threads >wow people are saying stuff I hate and shitposting
You ever considered it's not us and it's more that you're a moron and a tremendous pussy?
You know every single person here save the 3 or 4 wienersucking trannies from your troony discord want to see you and your SJW friends go destitute, fail to make a livehood out of sucking wieners for a penny, and dinally hang your stupid self in the most humilliating and ridiculous way possible, right?
And you come here to shill and subject yourself to these insults for free lmao. Maybe they were right when they told you you were moronic and would never amount to anything?
>Post YFW
Pic related. Like 90 percent of the games I play in any given year are indie games, so none of this shit affecting bloated AAA companies affects me.
There are zero reasons to buy a new game these days. Maybe an indie-level game if catches your eye and looks charming but actually purchasing a new, big developer title on a whim will just lead to disappointment unless you're already an established fan.
I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not might be another indictment on the gaming industry, but ET's biggest issue is that everyone returned it, so it's net sales were relatively low. By contrast I've noticed people have only more recently turned against Starfield, and on release it was seen as just another Bethesda game as opposed to an emblem of why that studio is terrible (It's been terrible since Fallout 3)
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Briefly, but the government saw the revenue impacts it would have and walked the measures back. Not all of them, but enough of them to the point where chinkshit gacha is still a viable business option, sadly. Turns out the Chinese Communists are ruthless capitalists after all, who knew.
That's a shame, really wish Gacha gaming just dies, hate to see a good studio like Project Moon just go to waste for easy money
Why are people so reactionary and never follow up on "news" stories? That whole thing was a sham. Nothing happened.
I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not might be another indictment on the gaming industry, but ET's biggest issue is that everyone returned it, so it's net sales were relatively low. By contrast I've noticed people have only more recently turned against Starfield, and on release it was seen as just another Bethesda game as opposed to an emblem of why that studio is terrible (It's been terrible since Fallout 3)
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Briefly, but the government saw the revenue impacts it would have and walked the measures back. Not all of them, but enough of them to the point where chinkshit gacha is still a viable business option, sadly. Turns out the Chinese Communists are ruthless capitalists after all, who knew.
Didn't the Chinese laws ruin Gacha? I'm waiting for those games to start dropping like flies.
>westoid troons raging over gacha-kino
KEK
Your whole industry will crash and burn while gacha dominates thanks to whales with good taste.
Enjoy your mass market slop while it lasts
>strong IP.
Only gets you so far if all you're doing is cashing in on the good will built up from decades. Pokemon being so shit the last few generations is why palworld is blowing up. The market was always there, Pokemon Go should have told them.
Video games peaked in the PS2-era because they were the right mix of "devs are now experienced enough to know how to make some really good shit" while also being in the "making a game isn't a massive fricking time/money sink that requires $300 million, 5000 employees, and 5 years to make". These days with the advent of super high specs, instead of having devs use new tools to make development easier, most AAA devs are instead spending a frickton of time on making sure you can see every skin pore on some random npcs model or trying to represent every single minority under the sun instead of making an actual fricking video game
Of course realistically I imagine it's moreso just because of AI and nothing significant is going to end up happening other than AAA stuff becoming even worse because all the dumb fricks in charge are still in charge
Halo at some point was a decent IP. Same with blizzard catalogue. Maybe what you need is avoid hiring "filler" workers and stop your talented ones from leaving you.
>Microsoft is the only one cannibalizing itself >The only platform and company people give no shits about when it comes to video games. >Gaming crash
No this is just Microsoft doing what they do best. Fail it's dwindling player base.
Let me know whe Alana Mcbreasts gets fired from Sony, then I will they have worked through the worthless woke trash completely and into the worthless woke prostitutes. I will chuckle when she has to move back to Straya
Thank god, they need to clear house after the absolute trash they've been pumping out. Not that they're ever going to improve but I hate modern shitty game developers so I like to hear that they're suffering.
homie layoffs ALWAYS come after a merger/acquisition. There are a ton of redundant positions now at Blizzard-Activision since they're now integrated into Microsoft. It takes time to sort through all the redundant employees to figure out who is worth keeping around, who can be moved to a different position, and who they can cut. So the layoffs typically follow 1-2 quarters after the merger, sometimes a whole fiscal year later, but there's always a reckoning where the fat gets trimmed off.
Only two people in this thread who show a shred of intelligence.
? The timing is right on schedule anon. It's no longer december so they don't get bombarded with bad PR for shitcanning these useless fricked during le holiday season
Unironically a good thing. If you're not indie devving you're fricking moronic. You chose to stake your livelihood on a well-known burning trash heap and you deserve to reap the rewards of aligning yourself with a mismanaged and horribly shortsighted industry for convenience's sake.
nips will actually give people jobs to watch paint dry to avoid laying people off because they're socialists, then it become your problem if you want to have a nice day
It's mostly because of American fiscal policy. High inflation lead to the central bank and the financial reserve hiking interest rates, meaning companies that had an expansionary business model supported by cheap debt suddenly suffered massive contractions. This is also why there was a large layoff in the tech industry last year.
By contrast Japanese monetary policy hasn't changed to nearly the same degree. LACK of Japanese fiscal policy changes has actually caused the Yen to depreciate compared with the dollar, dropping from about $1=100 yen to an at time of writing $1=147 yen. Their expansionist monetary policy has stayed in place, so their currency devalued by almost 50% in the past 4 years. The argument that Japanese companies aren't producing games that bomb just isn't compelling enough to me. Plenty of American games are doing well, and plenty of Japanese games are flopping. Forespoken was a high profile Square Enix disaster, just to name one example. Monetary policy is driving these changes, not individual firm performance.
Let's rejoice and celebrate the downfall. Frick the journos, frick the devs, frick the artists and the vas. Hope that the crash will reset the industry back to fun stuff and less pretentious wannabe art.
Industry will just decide to push massive corner cutting with terrible monetization schemes to maximize profit. I can't wait for the next 15 survival clone games that spawn in the next 10 years.
The tech industry is well aware that a catastrophic recession is coming, astronomically worse than 2008, dotcom or the 70s. They are preemptively trimming fat to stave off the investor panic when it finally comes.
Prepare yourselves as well, Ganker. It's going to get bad
I got a decent paying job and I'm unlikely to get fired because its not entertainment homosexualry and actually rather vital.
This better make housing cheaper. I want to buy an appartment.
Marketing,"diversity",HR,QA and other shit like that with some major designers here and there for projects that are during last period of production but thats it. Tech companies started to hire moronic amount of people during pandemic plus shit economy and outsourcing being easier and better than ever doesnt bode well for western devs. More and more games will be designed by western designers but actual assets and shit by pajeets.
how many of the women posting about being laid off are going to turn to onlyfans or are already on it?
any autismites ready to do the needful and correlate accounts across twatter and onlyfans?
itll corroborate the supposition that women turn to prostitution during hard times especially considering it's post pandemic mode, there are 3.5 wars total (considering the middle eastern countries are skirmishing with each other) going on with another possible 1 starting with china
>Sadly they just seem to be devoted to gachashit
More of them need to go the Cygames route and use that gacha money to develop real games for consoles/PC.
Or at least make some decent anime.
Diversity hires are >Useless >Make the actual productive workers uncomfortable
This is why a lot of indies are a success now, those who are worth it may as well just try some minor game
Every single company and dev could be annihilated overnight and the industry would rebound instantly because people fricking love video games and there would be billions of dollars on the table for whoever could race to fill the void. None of this news is meaningful to players, it's only for business dudes or devs worried about their jobs. Games aren't going anywhere.
What do games flopping have to do with what I said? Games flop, studios go under, companies fail, people get fired. It's still going to be a multibillion dollar industry because people want the product. It may shrink, sure. Sometimes line goes up, sometimes line goes down. Give me your worst-case scenario.
I didn't mean the effects would be 100% invisible to players I meant it won't feel like a "crash" from their perspective, like oh noo video games are in trouble guys
westoid AAA garbage is dying but you dont see the same trend when it comes to japanese games or indies.
as a matter of fact gaming for me has been better than it has been for quite a few years. Black person and troony games from amerishart corporations flopping is just the cherry on top.
Japanese games lives in a Bubble on which the morons of the old guard are about to take the flak hard
Capcom and SE being the one who started this is Ironical.
Reset everything back to 1990's PC Gaming standards.
Kill MMO subscription
Have Multiplayer being a main part
Embrace modding
And force everyone to learn even the basic of C language, since all of that is gone.
>And force everyone to learn even the basic of C language, since all of that is gone.
The only time I ever saw a bunch of underagedgays actually learn to code is when internet web games were still a thing. If we manage to bring back that culture, people will start to want to make their own games as well.
Anon back in the 90's everyone at schools or even at home the moment they got a pc had a book of C
Even Photoshop and 3DS Bibles used to sell a lot
I still have mine here.
Oh I see so they're blaming this shitty system falling apart on some unnamed and nebulous financial terrorists?
Frick does anybody really believe the media on anything these days?
Just propaganda mouth pieces.
Zamn, I didn't realize that shitposting on a mongolian basketweaving forum was literally destroying the economy. I'll make sure to never buy Black folktone slop and to blacklist any company that affiliates itself with the glucose taste infant to crash the market faster
Fired means you did something wrong.
Laid off means the company can't afford to keep you on.
Lay offs = not the employee's fault, usually company restructuring itself
Firing = employee's fault, whether it's severely underperforming or violating the ethics of the workspace.
"lay off" is a term invented to make companies look better when firing mass amounts of staff. They try and define it differently as no-fault but it's the same fricking thing
Lay offs = not the employee's fault, usually company restructuring itself
Firing = employee's fault, whether it's severely underperforming or violating the ethics of the workspace.
"lay off" is a term invented to make companies look better when firing mass amounts of staff. They try and define it differently as no-fault but it's the same fricking thing
If I were console-makers, publishers, and developers, I'd send the bills for the losses to Larry Fink, Anita Sarkeesian, and all the other fricks who told them that their customers will be ok with their woke agenda, deliberate ugliness, and race-grifting.
This is merely the market correcting inefficiencies, remember all those non-jobs that problem hair feminists were bragging about on the internet?
Gaming companies with rational structures and that create actual value for gamers will prevail.
right looks fricking obnoxious and i genuinely prefer left
too bad the 3d doesnt look nearly as good as that drawing though
the japs can be alright and have many designs i love but i fricking HATE THOSE PUFFY HATS
THOSE LITTLE SMALL QUIRKY HATS TILTED ON THE SIDE OF SOMEONE HEAD CAN GO SUCK THEIR OWN DICK TOO
"Tech jobs" are not real jobs. My butthole friend works for Microsoft and he thought sitting on his ass "working" remotely was his inalienable right... they made him go in 3 days a week and he said that was ridiculous. I hope all of these homosexuals get laid off and replaced by AI. Bust your ass doing real work like the rest of us you pansies.
i mean,yeah.Look at future releases,Naughty Dog is going to take awhile after their Gaas disaster,Elder Scrolls will miss this gen.Insomniac already blew their load this gen.
All AAA hope rests on Rockstar's lap
>>GTA 6 is such a comically big release that it gives a boost to both PS and Xbox keeping the AAA hype alive
This unless something truly catastrophic happens that affects GTA6's release
>mfw all my AA middle market weebshit devs are free from all this bullshit
GTAIII was the gateway for normalgays to enter this hobby, never forget.
>game industry massively overhires thanks to revenue boosts from covid pandemic >game industry has to course correct once things normalize and credit becomes less readily available
I know the general meme/probable fact is that Ganker's average user is a high schooler but it also comes with the probable fact that they also have no meaningful memory of the usual 10 year economic cycles.
If every midbudget publisher imploding at the start of gen 7 right before the great recession didn't kill the gaming industry, it's very likely something as democratized and diversified as the modern vidya market will never crash, even if it takes out one or two major publishers.
Hell this isn't even linked to economic ebb and flow. A giant ass acquisition just happened, no shit a lot of people are gonna be laid off, to say nothing of the vidya industry's usual "ship the game, fire everyone" shtick
Wouldn't be surprised if a new VP is selected for Biden. Getting the feeling she has been an absolute bust behind the scenes after her disappearance in the media after 2021.
>I hope Valve is next.
Valve isn't a public company so they don't give a shit about quarterly profits being X% higher or what ever else moronic ex-McKinsey MBA's do at other companies.
>mfw AAA westernslop is finally starting to crash >mfw when librul troons are finally getting the -ACK
God it feels so good to only play nip and indie games.
>game industry massively overhires thanks to revenue boosts from covid pandemic >game industry has to course correct once things normalize and credit becomes less readily available
I know the general meme/probable fact is that Ganker's average user is a high schooler but it also comes with the probable fact that they also have no meaningful memory of the usual 10 year economic cycles.
If every midbudget publisher imploding at the start of gen 7 right before the great recession didn't kill the gaming industry, it's very likely something as democratized and diversified as the modern vidya market will never crash, even if it takes out one or two major publishers.
Hell this isn't even linked to economic ebb and flow. A giant ass acquisition just happened, no shit a lot of people are gonna be laid off, to say nothing of the vidya industry's usual "ship the game, fire everyone" shtick
A fricking AI came shit out 1,000 new character ideas in one day. All you need is Unreal engine and a basic idea of what kind of game you want. And there are Unreal speed-builders that can build a whole area in an hour, and God knows how fast they can work to build a world map.
They need to re-evaluate the structure of gaming companies if they're gonna survive. And lose the woke shit No one wants an intentionally ugly game with black people shoved down our frickign throats in every last thing. Even black people prefer black-free Japanese anime over anything western that directly panders to them.
>Even black people prefer black-free Japanese anime over anything western that directly panders to them.
The irony is that it doesn't even pander to them, it's still made by and for middle-class white people.
This doesn't portend a cash it's a sign of healing. The gaming industry has become insanely bloated and cutting it all away was always going to happen eventually.
homie layoffs ALWAYS come after a merger/acquisition. There are a ton of redundant positions now at Blizzard-Activision since they're now integrated into Microsoft. It takes time to sort through all the redundant employees to figure out who is worth keeping around, who can be moved to a different position, and who they can cut. So the layoffs typically follow 1-2 quarters after the merger, sometimes a whole fiscal year later, but there's always a reckoning where the fat gets trimmed off.
Maybe if they actually made some you know, video games, instead of political shitposts in interactive format they might have kept their jobs?
Who knows?
Look at Dragonflight and Diablo 4. You know they rushed them out the door before the merger to make it look tastier for Microsoft, only for them to be hit with the reality is that Acti-blizzard is basically run by the madhouse and all the real work is outsourced to Bangladesh.
Tech and entertainment across the board are battening down the hatches because their investors are all slashing and burning everything because of a combination of high interest rates and the expectation among high-level shareholder think tanks and conferences that the United States federal government will collapse during the 2020s. They're hoping for a 'soft' collapse like the Soviets had but it's looking increasingly unlikely.
Most people are unaware of how much decisions at a high level, ESPECIALLY finance and tech, are being made by guys who completely and wholeheartedly expect full collapse to happen soon. If you've ever wondered why people in Silicon Valley and Hollywood keep making what seem like incredibly nearsighted or bad decisions, with no long-term thought or care, it's because an increasing amount of them do not expect for there to be a 'long term' at all and are just scratching for as much as they can to invest in underground bunkers and air filtration units and iodide tablets. It begs the question: are they right to act this way? Or is this a self-fulfilling prophecy where their lack of long-term decision making is furthering the descent and, in and of itself, making any near-future catastrophe more likely?
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. I had started to note how everything over the past decade especially seemed like a mad and reckless dash to plunder everything possible as quickly as possible.
Although let me offer a counter theory.
Many of these people at the top are old and on their last days. So in my mind it is more like the looming collapse is their mortality.
They're about to leave the party and they don't like the idea that it is going to continue without them.
They probably don't like the idea that most people won't even fricking miss them and probably will celebrate their departure.
So the whole thing feels like a final >Frick you I got mine
Type of thing which is so characteristic of that generation.
If I were to put it another way....you know that saying about planting trees in which who's shade you won't be around to enjoy? Well they're cutting down the tree because frick you plant your own tree.
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If I were to put it another way....you know that saying about planting trees in which who's shade you won't be around to enjoy? Well they're cutting down the tree because frick you plant your own tree.
i just smoke trees nowadays
Gankerners are largely ignorant of cultural trends since they like to shun social media posting but these kind of 'doomsday prep for richgays' companies surfaced because these gays are all permanently online(mainly on twitter) and a community in that sice called 'chart twitter' was big at the time. think of a bunch of morons posting bullshit 'le collapse' models like world3 and peak oil over and over to scare silicon valley pajeets into spending their bitcoin fortunes on solar powered apartment bunkers.
sorry to break it to you anon but unless you start to notice it physically in your every day life like in flation, nothing ever happens. the collapse isn't gonna come save you from your shitty boring four hour life.
>think of a bunch of morons posting bullshit 'le collapse' models like world3 and peak oil over and over to scare silicon valley pajeets into spending their bitcoin fortunes on solar powered apartment bunkers
You mean /misc/
every board is /misc/ now. you can thank rapeape and his clique for that.
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i don't care. sorry to break it to you like this anon but /misc/ IS Ganker and i wouldn't have it any other way even if that board is an unfunny fed/NGO infested shithole and i'd rather get my kicks directly from twitter nowadays
>Gankerners are largely ignorant of cultural trends since they like to shun social media
We are on Ganker you fricking moron, there are more threads about normalgays politics, than actual vidya
Tech and entertainment across the board are battening down the hatches because their investors are all slashing and burning everything because of a combination of high interest rates and the expectation among high-level shareholder think tanks and conferences that the United States federal government will collapse during the 2020s. They're hoping for a 'soft' collapse like the Soviets had but it's looking increasingly unlikely.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. I had started to note how everything over the past decade especially seemed like a mad and reckless dash to plunder everything possible as quickly as possible.
Although let me offer a counter theory.
Many of these people at the top are old and on their last days. So in my mind it is more like the looming collapse is their mortality.
They're about to leave the party and they don't like the idea that it is going to continue without them.
They probably don't like the idea that most people won't even fricking miss them and probably will celebrate their departure.
So the whole thing feels like a final >Frick you I got mine
Type of thing which is so characteristic of that generation.
If I were to put it another way....you know that saying about planting trees in which who's shade you won't be around to enjoy? Well they're cutting down the tree because frick you plant your own tree.
It's not just a collapse scenario that is being prepared for. There is overwhelming sentiment that 15 years from now the entire business landscape will be completely different. That assumption also requires there be a transition from then to now, and transitionary periods are super painful.
>Or is this a self-fulfilling prophecy where their lack of long-term decision making is furthering the descent and, in and of itself, making any near-future catastrophe more likely?
No, they're not. A lot of them are just complete morons who somehow fail to realize that if any "collapse" does come it will be because of their actions - yet many (but not all) pretend that its somehow beyond their control all moved by forces outside their hands, when they in most cases have a large culpability for these behaviors.
>shortsighted
This has nothing to do with expecting a collapse. This is just late stage capitalism being late stage capitalism. The line must always go up , any lost potential for profit is bad , we push every trend as long as possible and it still pays off no matter the secondary effects. Outside of a handful of near religious prepper types who have constantly been wrong about everything (the FEMA camps are going to be activated any day now! All the COVID19 conspiracies about the 5G chips and other stupid etc), those who like to talk about planning for a collapse is just a grifting attempt to push certain stocks higher and other forms of market manipulation - its no different than the gun lobby in the US pulling "DEMONCRAT IN DE OFFICE! HESA GONNA TAKE U GUNERINOS! BETTER GO BUY A BUNCH OF NEW GUNS AND AMMO NOW" and then "REPUBLICAN MAGA IN THE OFFICE! YOU HAZ FREEDOM TO BUY LOTS OF GUNS BETTER GO BUY A BUNCH NOW" - the answer is always to buy more guns, but it doesn't matter how accurate the assertions are, just the manipulation outcome is good for their business -again just capitalism gonna capitalism.
Its absolutely a self-fulfilling prophecy that, even if we don't get the "collapse" they envision completely, it leads to way more suffering for the average people but make no mistakes its not them betting on the end of the world, its just they're betting on anything that makes them profit, no matter if it leads to any type of suffering or the end of the world. Its just the same in gaming with shit lik gacha or item malls - horrible ,exploitative shit but massively profitable with only a few
You just love the taste of corporate butthole that much, anon? If millionaire, why would you want to spend money on stupid gacha shit - that's literally the equivalent of being Black person rich with big gold chains and rims. Actual rich people will look at you and sneer for frivolous stupidity the same way they do at some nouveau riche with his gold plated diamond studded iphone. How tacky.
Then again you don't really give a shit about any of that and your election tourist brainworms just decided that if "commies" think breathing air is good, you'll jam your head underwater just to show those libtards.
>you guys know whenever you hear about "MASSIVE LAYOFFS" it's usually either diversity hires, temporary hires, or PR people, right?
This. DEI and ESG matters when courting investment, but with interest rates right now nobody cares about that shit, they wanna see profits. DEI incentives do frick-all for profits, which everybody has always known, but you weren't allowed to say because of that homosexual Larry Fink. Nobody needs a million diversity hired, women-in-tech "influencers" and shit like that, this feels like the clown world we've built up since 2008 is finally collapsing. > If you've ever wondered why people in Silicon Valley and Hollywood keep making what seem like incredibly nearsighted or bad decisions, with no long-term thought or care, it's because
...investors care about near-term returns over long-term stability. This isn't a tech exclusive thing, this is literally what any company says in their town halls, about the responsibility to their shareholders. Unfortunately money comes from customers, not shareholders, so when they frick up like with Hollywood recently they can easily lose consumer trust.
Good. The west needed to be humbled. I doubt they'll learn anything from this though; they'll just double down on everything and become more resentful.
Shit-stained brown hands wrote this, the US economy needs to trim some fat and will be right back to kicking ass.
Good. The west needed to be humbled. I doubt they'll learn anything from this though; they'll just double down on everything and become more resentful.
This isn't a huge crash, this is just Microsoft dealing with the garbage that was ActiBlizz which was overstuffed with employees and making garbage. The biggest concern here is that surely the industry will learn the WRONG lesson and go further down the shitty gacha garbage live service path, despite Blizz torpedoing most of their games because of this shit. People aren't playing Diablo IV as much as D3 because of the battle pass seasons of everything PLUS $30 outfits and $25 mount skins and other shit not included there - hell during the BETA they had a "you can only get this mount if you beat the super boss that spawns only every couple of hours during this literal 48 hour beta" , talk about FOMO shit to say nothing for monetization to come. Same thing with the garbage of Overwatch 2 - its sad when Overwatch 1's lootboxes - including holiday ones - you coudl unock through playing and collect currency to buy rare skins when they came around seems positively player friendly by comparison to what it has now.
>comparing it to D3, the israeliteiest game in existence, where the in-game currency is actual currency >in favour of D3
you're delusional, no amount of shitty skins can ever top the shitshow that was Diablo 3.
>corporations want increasing growing profit margins so every game is getting bigger and bigger in hopes that it'll be a massive success and every flop is crashing harder and harder
How is this supposed to be financially viable again? Do these people think the amount of gamers in the world just constantly grows exponentially or some shit
the amount of players was in fact increasing exponentially because many third world countries were joining the market.
that might be over by now though.
It doesn't matter if it's sustainable. It's about the current CEO and current shareholders making as much money as possible then as soon as things take a bad turn they retire/sell for even more money and leave everybody below them, that had no say in the operation of the company, to suffer the consequences of their shortsighted actions. Welcome to modern capitalism.
If it actually mattered, we'd hear notable names and core staff outraged, probably beginning their own studio.
In reality it's just the massive bloat of leeches that aren't needed anymore.
If anything it's amusing to see these leeches get a reality check, to realize just how expendable they were.
Pretty crazy that its not just Activision Blizzard now, its Microsoft Activision Blizzard
Maybe muttland should consider banning corporations from snowballing like this eh? Never would have happened in Europe
If I was to apply the tinfoil hat, I think this is a "human" problem, not an economic one on the grand scale.
I think we're at the point where the west essentially can't grow further. Most families require two employed parents to sustain a very meager living and based on the current trajectory most of them neither do nor will ever own housing. This is despite both parts having to work harder to be "effective" at their jobs and have to achieve more in shorter timeframes. The result of low quality-of-life and stress from work mean fewer children (because children are expensive and cause more stress). And I think that's what we're seeing now. A lot of millennials now having babies, or having too few, while the trend seems to be even worse among zoomers. Gen-alpha isn't exactly shaping up to "save us" either as they're just inheriting a slightly worse world from the zoomies.
TL;DR: I don't think humans -can- or should be pushed to further effectiveness and we're essentially killing ourselves by forcing it.
That's the sad part: I have no fricking clue. If we decide to cut humanity some slack and see if we can't stabilize our population/stress levels again we'll get ruined with debt as pretty much every financial sector will collapse over night. We're in an economy that can't afford to say: >"You know what? From now on all our employees will only work half as much, and spend more time socializing, making friends and falling in love."
I have no better alternative, but one of the most core and fundamental flaws of capitalism (or whatever you call this hell we exist in) is that you can't ever take a single step backwards. You can't even look backwards or think the thought of going backwards. Forward and upward until death.
The infinite growth game of these massive corporations is causing this squeeze.
Do more with less. Pay people less make them do more work and then also charge more for the products.
Every company is doing it and the ones that are not are forced into doing it by how interconnected the flow of goods and services are.
So eventually you reach a point where you have all these people working to produce products that nobody can afford in either money or time.
The housing part is the worst of it because even rent is super expensive.
At that point you have lost the one basic thing people need to be invested in the continuation of society. The knock-on effects of this is that you get tragedy of the commons but placed to society.
Good luck convincing the modern day serf to pick up a pitch fork to defend your slummy apartment complex from invaders. He doesn't even own anything inside that apartment to defend anyway.
>Good luck convincing the modern day serf to pick up a pitch fork to defend your slummy apartment complex from invaders.
Do you seriously believe the average Joe will get a say in this? If Russia invades Canada tomorrow, do you think the man on the street will be asked if he -wants- to defend his country, or do you think he'll be conscripted and be forced to?
Most people who own nothing and have nothing can't even see the prison they're in Anon.
Kinda. It sucks that you can't start the bakery you want or a house to live in until you're 50 because you can't have a loan though, because no one (including banks) can invest in you.
I kid but that might actually be better long-term.
Oh no people are often convinced of their need to fight.
A lot of it is culture and religion and "way of life" and all of that stuff. God and country type of things.
But since the people are the top saw more control and profit in eroding and removing such notions and ideals...wellllll...
You'd have to do what
>Good luck convincing the modern day serf to pick up a pitch fork to defend your slummy apartment complex from invaders.
Do you seriously believe the average Joe will get a say in this? If Russia invades Canada tomorrow, do you think the man on the street will be asked if he -wants- to defend his country, or do you think he'll be conscripted and be forced to?
Most people who own nothing and have nothing can't even see the prison they're in Anon.
But now you're left with the problem of an inherently disloyal army.
On top of that, take the US for example, the racial and political divides have been increased to such a degree that you are just flirting with friendly fire constantly by putting guns in the hands of these people forced together.
There is a reason beyond theatrics as to why the US government flipped their shit over some tourists on Jan 6th and then started to talk a big game about their military tech.
They're scared to death of even the whispers of an armed uprising. They know they are basically fricked.
>own housing
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Future generations will not own cars, furniture, appliances or really anything. Everything will be rented, financed or """shared""" while only the very tiny percentage of "owners" will own.
>2023 is apparently the best year in gaming >immediately followed by massive layoffs
SHILLS LOST AAA LOST NORMALS LOST GET FRICKED AND STAY OUR OF OUR HOBBY
the shitty performance wouldn't be as bad if they didn't fricking blame the consumers for it.
The Xbox app (i got 3 months of gamepass for a dollar) was running like shit and the support staff told me it was my hardware was too poor for it. Funny, because everything else I use ran just fine and a month later they put out a survey about "what should we focus on" and app performance was the first fricking thing it mentioned.
There's no crash, everything isn't "falling apart". Layoffs of excess workers is a normal part of transitioning to a non-zero interest rate environment. Money is no longer free. Most corporations became massively bloated during the free money era and can lay off massive quantities of employees with zero tangible effect.
Honest question. How much did Microsoft overpay on Blizzard now that next-big-thing survival game is vaporware? You know they were hyping the shit out of it before the merger to bloat the price as high as possible
>all of these useless wienersuckers finally going back to slurping semen as a livehood
Good riddance. I hope high interest rates go on forever so idiots finally have to deal with their poor life choices.
>1900 developers are free from being under the microsoft touch of shit that ruins everything
I bet most of em are shit, but if one good developer was released from that crap company, its already a win for gaming in general.
Unless they get hired by sony or nintendo that will again squander the talents.
I was wondering if Hunt Down the Freeman's director is still working for Activision Blizzard. Turns out he's a senior designer at Playstation according to his LinkedIn profile. Good for him. Good for him.
>dumb gamers thought microsoft acquiring such a big company was okay since they would kick the tirant Bobby out and save the employees. >dumb gamers thought microsoft would improve blizzard >acquisition complete, microsoft fires 20% of the studio and cancels their games
THE ABSOLUTE KEK OF KEKIMUS MAXIMUM YOU ABSOLUTE moronS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S ABSOLUTELY OVER BLIZZARD IS NO MORE
The only people who cried about Bobby Kotick were talentless diversity hires and ridiculous stories like the disappearing breast milk which were 50% bullshit. (Not that Kotick was worth defending since under his watch the company deteriorated and hired all that bullshit to begin with.)
I got fired this week, I'm a game and graphics programmer. Thinking of just taking a break to be honest, the market is behaving really weird and nobody wants to take creative risks.
Most of the offers available are just bad shovelware or FOTM imitations. Plenty of casino, nft or crypto games and honestly these places just want to suck out any passion you may have left and remind you how greedy some frickers can be.
>homosexuals, women, and Blacks that sit around all day having gay "meetings", in other words doing fricking nothing of ANY type of value, getting fired from their make-believe jobs
damn what a tragedy
My beloved L4D ripped this week too. Asked for a complete refund through Steam even though I bought it retail at Wal-Mart back in '09. Demanded a $50 Steam gift card as well for my trouble. When they decline then I will resubmit the complaint but tack on an extra $50 each time just because.
That just sounds like a new owner is trimming the fat, happens every time one company buys another. It'll be mostly management and redundant departments let go.
Well I'm in my 30s so I always assumed the highest % of games I liked would have been from the PS1 or PS2 generation. But I went through my top 100 or so games and the highest % was from the 360 gen.
It's not really a program. I just keep a list of my top games on backlogged https://www.backloggd.com/ and just manually counted which games were from which gen and put them into this pie chart website https://www.meta-chart.com/pie
Oh, shit, good effort.
I think it makes sense. Well, you can rationalize it anyway. Still plenty of new, experimental stuff, lot of good series hitting their stride, and it's well past the 3d transition with all its jank.
We are celebrating subhuman morons getting fricked in the ass, and we would mourn actual human beans (jap vidya companies) suffering. There is nothing hypocritical in this, as you would surely see if you had the extra 70 IQ points required for you to join the 3 digit IQ club.
>every index fund has gone up over the last year >every good adviser got 20% for their clients >full recovery from the down year >market is not pumping
kek
>a bunch of homosexuals who don't produce any actual value moved money around and changed the definition of unemployment >this totally makes up for the hyper inflation killing the middle class
lmao
>middle class
If you are middle class and not invested in index funds, then you are almost certainly lower middle class, the lowest one can possibly be KEK
>late stage capitalism
They are literally just firing the diversity hires and HR women who got jobs only because moronic commies within the organization wanted to play as activists while the people in charge got convinced to do so because of the enticing ESG scores.
>ESG are no longer since high interest rates make expensive to throw money at idiots >DEI, HR and all the fat comprised of useless clowns getting fired 24/7 >woke media products (Forspoken, Saints row, Redfall, Starfield, etc) going broke left and right >and this unpaid moron shilling for the fake promises of his troony discord handler of being someone important after the revolution thinks he is winning
Hahahaha jesus chist you are pathetic lmao.
You are seeing lay off notices of useless subhumans like you on twatter all day, what else you need you stupid moron.
By the way, do you know why you haven't been fired too? Because firing a moronic imbecile that works for free is pointless lmao.
It didn't happen.
But I wish it did.
Well, Starfield is filling the "ET landfill" checkbox at least.
before it was magic the gathering cards
Qrd?
wizards physical sales went down by a lot because of various reasons that wizards wasnt selling enough cards.
rather than reducing the price of the cards to attract more people or make them cheaper in general they put them in landfills and burned then outright.
reducing the price would have made people accustomed to lower prices and they would not be comfortable buying mtg packs at expensive prices anymore.
during that time it also came out that on average to produce a booster pack, not including shipping costs them about 3 cents.
This. WotC being greedy idiots would rather destroy cards than sell it for cheaper.
>mtg booster can be anywhere from 5$ to 50$ depending on edition
>it literally only costs them a few pennies to make
jesus fricking christ.
how longnose can wizards be?
First time? They're the main reason why I hated seeing BG3 be successful.
i never played physical mtg
its why im surprised people are willing to pay those prices. i only play xmage
Lmao frick them.
What kind of mentally moronic coksucking imbecile moron buys fricking booster packs instead of pirating jpgs and printing them lmao? jk jk, who the frick plays physical mgt when manalink/shandalar exists lol.
https://github.com/magefree/mage
Reminder that Wizards killed Android Netrunner because it was getting too popular.
I will never forgive them.
the 83 crash wasn't caused by ET and pacman
It was caused by Shareholder Scare due to decade predictions and a shitty system where the company would take all the damage for profits
9 years old video, but it explains how this shit is repeating again.
Also Atari paid a frickcload of money to get the ET rights and all that money didn't had return
sure but ET is still basically just associated with the crash now, people will post it as a way of mocking the current crash (i.e shit games and bloat)
Unironically we already had internal predictions not only for gaming but Entertainment in general going to shit thanks to Blackrock+Vanguard ESG shit powered by WEF, that everyone is selling or removing their shares into something else.
It may take 2 or 3 years but all will take is a giant bomb for everything go down asap.
Which may come from disney since all of the MCU shit is coming out this year
But I bought a copy of ET encrusted in cement
good video, thanks for linking it. popular games fricking over companies makes sense and we're living in that scenario right now as aaa collapses.
All started with World of Warcraft back in 2004
In fact many minor crashes happened leading even to the death of a few genres like WW2 shooters and so on.
I legitimately blame WoW for a lot of what's wrong with the current industry. The default AAA template has a lot in common with WoW's game design choices. The modern open world game with RPG elements is strikingly similar to a single player WoW. Instead of making MMOs because the market for them crashed, they repackaged them to sell to normalgays instead and gave them skinner boxes to play around in with color coded loot, rpg elements, side quests with ! and ? on the map, talents, and crafting in an open world.
Mobile games did more damage to the industry than MMOs ever could've dreamed.
LOL no mobile games are saving the industry. F2P mobile asian games shit all over AAA crap.
>gameplay? no but there are cute girls you can gamble real money to look at!
Get the frick off my board, cancer.
>muh gameplay
LMAO of course. No Blizzard game in like 20 years had good gameplay.
Yeah and your """""game""""" has no gameplay at all. What's your point here?
kys yesterday
Nice "riveting gameplay", anon.
What was this game called Blue Reflection or some shit (but that comes up as a PS4 game)?
Hina Archive
it's called touhou, those are remilia scarlet and sakuya izayoi
Not really, most of those MTX practices were made popular by EA. So you can blame Peter Moore, the guy responsible for the success of the Xbox 360. That man was based but he also ruined in the entire industry.
I'm sure those mobile games were raking in billions not because they've formulated and perfected the human feedback loop of want and receiving. MMOs experimented heavily on that but they were never as honed as when mobile games entered the industry proper.
MMOs were the precursor and companies learned to exploit consumers because of them but regular games were infected fairly quickly as well. This interview with Peter Moore from 2012 is very good, he's very candid about the industry and he basically called everything that was going to happen in gaming right now back in 2012.
https://www.wired.com/2012/10/peter-moore-interview/
Moore had a good grasp on the industry, that's why the 360 did well under him and fell apart when he left.
Mobile games's emergence was already on the up and up during that time. Moore only read the trend on where it was going. Angry birds was already a thing. League of Legends perfecting the freemium model was already a thing.
Yeah, it was precipitated by the rise of Facebook games, which also took inspiration from being MMO designs and other older games like Neopets. But Moore does have some good insight about the entire industry and not just mobile
>Wired: As bigger-budget games become more expensive, what happens to them?
>Moore: We've already seen what's happened: The higher-end games that land, land well. Everything else just falls off the cliff. If you think about the industry today, I don't know what they exact numbers are, but the top 20 games globally probably deliver 80 percent of the revenue. Anything that doesn't hit that top 20 or 25 finds it very difficult to justify itself, its existence, and you kind of wonder why you did it.
>The big games are getting bigger, but then there's a chasm to the next level. It used to be you could sit nicely in the middle, and have a cost-effective game that did okay and kept developers in work, and you do a sequel to it. Those days are behind us. The big are getting bigger: Call of Dutys, Battlefields you look at the charts, things like Red Dead Redemption.... We deliver usually about half a dozen of those that sit in the top 20.
>If you look at what we needed to do, we put up big bets and now we have more marketing money to put behind our top-quality games. And we just don't work in that middle tier anymore because we moved our resources to the Facebook platform, the mobile phone platform and pushing people back to PC. That's where those people have gone.
This part is fairly insightful too
>The deeper you get in the back end of the generation, the less that a new IP is going to work. You start saving up your creative bullets for when you think the next generation of hardware is going to come along. So you start thinking in those terms. It's very difficult, if not impossible – I can't think of new IP that launches five or six years into a generation of gaming hardware that is successful. It's just not the time to do it.
Bur Moore failed to predict the rise of live service games. He always thought it was going to keep getting bigger and to succeed you must keep getting bigger. Live service games disproved that but brought about a new kind of hell he didn't see coming.
> He always thought it was going to keep getting bigger and to succeed you must keep getting bigger. Live service games disproved that but brought about a new kind of hell he didn't see coming.
We've actually seen that same scenario happen with live service games. Occasionally something cheaper sneaks in but in general, the production values required to make one keep increasing in the same way it happened for MMORPGs. You could make a Tibia or Runescape and do well before WoW came out, after WoW you needed to throw a lot more money into your game for it to stand a chance and live service is fairly similar.
The core issue is always going to be that the players time is finite, they can't play 4 or 5 live service games unless they're a NEET. So you need to do something to grab their attention and lure them away from the ones that they're already investing their time in and that's easier said than done due to sunk cost. Some companies use their massive budget to do that, others use sex appeal, and very rarely you get a game that does it by being unique, innovative, and fun and making people want to play it.
>But Moore failed to predict the rise of live service games
I wonder if he thought more companies would go the route that he did, where they could get away with selling the same game over again every year like FIFA, Madden, and CoD do.
Even innovative games get left in the dirt. It really just does seem like luck at the end of the day.
>The core issue is always going to be that the players time is finite
This is why modern mobile games have become the driver of live service models. They’re cheap to make and are designed so that your monetary investment and time investment can be as much or as little as you want it to be. Sure you can whale like a motherfricker and grind your face off for hours, but you can also not spend a cent and play 5 minutes a day.
Every modern gacha game is like this.
It's genius when you think about it. They occupy the players time while they're doing things when they can't play normal vidya like when taking a shit, eating, or waiting in the dentists office or something. So even when players have a different game to play, the mobile games still manage to keep players logging in every day. Then when they're bored of the other game they can come back and grind their asses off if they choose to do so.
Pretty much. Moving forward every live service that isn’t a mobile game or charging a sub is operating on a tiny profit margin if they’re even in the black at all.
Why operate continuously at AAA game dev costs just to make content no one likes in Destiny 2 that puts people off because of the huge personal investment? Especially when some asiatics can just put their most popular character from Blue Archive in a one piece swimsuit and make a bajilion dollars because it’s the most accessible game imaginable?
Ah yes, such independent studios as Valve and Tencent. Cmon, he has a point but writes absolute cringe at the same time.
Damn, he perceptive
it's all the same slippery slope. WoW get the snowball in motion. it's rolling down through gacha and microtransactions, it's going to become huge and smash the industry with large impact.
correct.
it was caused by Americans
>it was caused by j*wish bankers
ftfy
Yes, Americans.
>European banking system
>European israelites
>European ideology
>European sensibilities
Everything about the ET game represents all the horrible business practices of the time that caused the crash.
So, this was a physical games problem and a new upcoming start up for the western market (nintendo) showed up when most of the companies were bleeding money on various investments while also scaring stock holders with less than projected yearly revenue. I don't think you can find a new company that can save video games and make them fun and new again, like before. This is going to keep like this until no one really buys video games anymore except for streamers and journalists.
except instead of being a fad that actually risked being forgotten, video games are now a industry and cultural pillar, they'll never go away. the shift will provbably be from the producer part and not the consumer part, since consumers can easily make simple and cheap games smash hits (see indie shit like palworld and lethal company, but more traditional games like cuphead or ultrakill also come to mind).
basically this whole "crash" will be cleaning off the AAA dinosaurs who can't make a game for shit without spending millions in budget and the smaller / more versatile devs like indie publishers or fromsotf, or rising publishers liek neowiz and larian will take their place as their production is either actually contained and sustainable, or can actually justify their budget with high quality, or never had that kind of problem to begin with
>basedtuber video essay
kys
>reee the industry is fine
>retailers ordering a bit too many games and then having to discount some of them caused videogame revenue to drop 97%
1983 also had an stock market collapse
>bla bla bla
Shut up, ET caused the crash.
>The brainlet response
No
There was allegedly 3~4 times more E.T. carts made than all existing Atari consoles manufactured and sold at that time, people were really expected to buy a new 2600 just to plat it - how the frick is that supposed to be a non-factor, when that prediction missing hard was a fatal blow to Atari?
I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not might be another indictment on the gaming industry, but ET's biggest issue is that everyone returned it, so it's net sales were relatively low. By contrast I've noticed people have only more recently turned against Starfield, and on release it was seen as just another Bethesda game as opposed to an emblem of why that studio is terrible (It's been terrible since Fallout 3)
Briefly, but the government saw the revenue impacts it would have and walked the measures back. Not all of them, but enough of them to the point where chinkshit gacha is still a viable business option, sadly. Turns out the Chinese Communists are ruthless capitalists after all, who knew.
I'd argue oblivion was terrible
I thought Oblivion was... okay. Definitely a step down from Morrowind and not as good as it could've been but the game itself is relatively inoffensive. The main game is solid, the quests and skills give you a lot of room to experiment (As long as you're willing to not cheese the system) but is largely held back by the terrible level scaling. But the expansions actually manage to be pretty good, IMO. But Fallout 3 shows exactly how awful and lazy Bethesda can and are willing to be, and it's become emblematic of every future Bethesda game since. Terrible gunplay even for the time, even now Bethesda games lack basic mechanics partial reloads. A horrible and extremely slow opening sequence making replaying the game a chore. A story that feels like it was written by morons, for morons. I could go on, but I cite Fallout 3 specifically because you'll notice that each of these flaws are replicated almost to a T in every Bethesda game since. Oblivion had some of them, but not nearly as many.
>I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well
In all fairness it was gamepass day 1, we don't have sales figures we have playercounts. We have no idea if starfield met projections
Things like gamepass are part of the problem. Disney+ and all those other streaming services are hemmorhaging money because fricking obviously paying 15 bux a month for everything doesn't make as much money as paying 60 bucks for every new thing.
This, but add YouTube, Twitch and the other big on-demand video delivering sites. Pretty much every streaming site is starting to feel that their ads aren't compensating for their product being either cheap or free, and some of the big ones (like YouTube) have already started gatekeeping to maximize profits as much as they can. The hard reality is that game streaming, live streaming and other video streaming is just not economically justifiable unless you're willing to charge the consumer WAY more than they currently are.
Moving 24 frames (at least) of video per second to a billion users is expensive.
The problem is modern AAA publishers consistently conflate retail with player expenditure with live services (Gamepass) and use that to manipulate sales reports. ActBlizz is notorious for this, often mixing up sell-through #s with total sales. Lots of smoke and mirrors
There is no crash, everything is fine. ATH's. Keep your money in the markets please. Pretty pretty please.
>I think the difference is that Starfield actually sold well. Whether that means it actually made a profit or not
I think it underperformed massively and the only reason it doesn't affect Bethesda (yet) is that retailers trusted them blindly and bought lots of copies to sell to store customers. Walmart are getting rid of their copies (destroying them) so clearly retail bought a LOT more than were (or going to be) sold. think about what that means for future games. retailers aren't going to wander into the same situation a second time. the next big game, especially if it's related to Microsoft or Xbox in any way, isn't going to get all those "pre-sales". stores aren't going to stock massive amounts and I think it's underappreciated how many game copies are still being sold physically (even though what's being sold is just a download code in disguise).
Unfortunately we won’t be having fun like that anymore. Digital sales have killed that dream
Too bad it costs 0 dollars in digital distribution vs actually making physical game copies and the covers for them.
Can't wait for Scott the Woz or whoever is the new JonTron rip-off to make a terrible movie about this with a special appearance of a old decrepit retired Todd Howard
How appropriate, I just watched the AVGN movie the other day, and the day after I turned on to TV to a jeopardy type show and there was a guy wearing an E.T. shirt in it, the universe must be trying to tell me something
when the world needed him the most... he returned
>happened 40 years later
Poetry, I kneel
>Post YFW
MORE. I WANT MORE WOKETARD SUFFERING! I HOPE THEY ALL KILL THEMSELVES! AHAHAHAHAA!
Blacks are more likely to riot than kill them self
>MFW watching the same OP posts every single day
>Oh boy another doomsaying post about how the industry is dead for real this time
>Oh the thread talking about the layoffs, it's quickly degenerated into celebrating it because "MUH TRANNIEZ".
I'm not expecting Ganker to become a magically tolerant liberal board, I just expect them to GIVE A SHIT in their posting. Christ you don't have to be a fricking mouth breathing moron to post on Ganker or say slurs.
A bit of the pot calling the kettle black there
I do give a shit which is why I'm celebrating the amputation of gangrenous limbs.
>I go into threads I know are obviously rehashed bait threads
>wow people are saying stuff I hate and shitposting
You ever considered it's not us and it's more that you're a moron and a tremendous pussy?
You know every single person here save the 3 or 4 wienersucking trannies from your troony discord want to see you and your SJW friends go destitute, fail to make a livehood out of sucking wieners for a penny, and dinally hang your stupid self in the most humilliating and ridiculous way possible, right?
And you come here to shill and subject yourself to these insults for free lmao. Maybe they were right when they told you you were moronic and would never amount to anything?
>_<
>__<
>Post YFW
Pic related. Like 90 percent of the games I play in any given year are indie games, so none of this shit affecting bloated AAA companies affects me.
Buzz is me.
Kevin is woke incompetent devs.
There are zero reasons to buy a new game these days. Maybe an indie-level game if catches your eye and looks charming but actually purchasing a new, big developer title on a whim will just lead to disappointment unless you're already an established fan.
It shouldn't have ended like this! THE CHUDS ARE CHUDDING! STOP THEM!
I am actually enjoying watching all those subhumans getting fricked lmao.
Didn't the Chinese laws ruin Gacha? I'm waiting for those games to start dropping like flies.
That was unfortunately only a draft. I don't believe it made it in
That's a shame, really wish Gacha gaming just dies, hate to see a good studio like Project Moon just go to waste for easy money
I don't follow Gacha news
>westoid troons raging over gacha-kino
KEK
Your whole industry will crash and burn while gacha dominates thanks to whales with good taste.
Enjoy your mass market slop while it lasts
>Gachakino
lol I've never seen a gacha game with actual gameplay. keep deluding yourself
>gameplay-troon in the wild
yeah it's "gameplay" when you fight the same boss 100,000 times in MH ROFL
Why are people so reactionary and never follow up on "news" stories? That whole thing was a sham. Nothing happened.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-regulator-removes-draft-video-game-rules-website-shares-jump-2024-01-23/
Death to AAA.
I want to see triple that number by the end of the day.
Keep bringing the axe down until games are no longer gay.
2024, the year shit actually happens.
God, Palworld couldn't have come at a better time. AAA gaming crash leading the way to a wave of new indie leaders.
This
What website do you think you’re on? I’ll give you a hint, it’s NOT where the narwhal bacons.
For all we know, this is the percentage that wasn't diversity hires.
use the catalog, you twitter homosexual
Ganker isn't /vg/ moron.
How do you get two thread open below each other like that?
Go woke, go broke~~
This, hope those ESG loans were worth destroying the entire industry for.
>sony moving away from consoles
>microsoft hollowing it's gaming arm out
>nintendo getting JUSTed by Palworld
>nintendo getting JUSTed by Palworld
don't worry anon... they aren't bankrupt yet
You aren't getting another crash and anyone who actually understand why would agree.
I literally don't care about game developers except Japanese ones
It's clear that Nintendo is doing something right.
You don't need expensive graphics to make/sell a game. You just need strong IP.
>strong IP.
Only gets you so far if all you're doing is cashing in on the good will built up from decades. Pokemon being so shit the last few generations is why palworld is blowing up. The market was always there, Pokemon Go should have told them.
>It's clear that Nintendo is doing something right.
Suing literal who's that make them look bad.
You're mixing up Nintendo and GameFreak
Video games peaked in the PS2-era because they were the right mix of "devs are now experienced enough to know how to make some really good shit" while also being in the "making a game isn't a massive fricking time/money sink that requires $300 million, 5000 employees, and 5 years to make". These days with the advent of super high specs, instead of having devs use new tools to make development easier, most AAA devs are instead spending a frickton of time on making sure you can see every skin pore on some random npcs model or trying to represent every single minority under the sun instead of making an actual fricking video game
Of course realistically I imagine it's moreso just because of AI and nothing significant is going to end up happening other than AAA stuff becoming even worse because all the dumb fricks in charge are still in charge
Halo at some point was a decent IP. Same with blizzard catalogue. Maybe what you need is avoid hiring "filler" workers and stop your talented ones from leaving you.
Or you could just hire new talented people, just a thought
Yes, of course.
Why hire talented people when you can hire ten pajeets for half the salary?
For the sake of long term success for your studio
Pajeetfield
>Microsoft is the only one cannibalizing itself
>The only platform and company people give no shits about when it comes to video games.
>Gaming crash
No this is just Microsoft doing what they do best. Fail it's dwindling player base.
Let me know whe Alana Mcbreasts gets fired from Sony, then I will they have worked through the worthless woke trash completely and into the worthless woke prostitutes. I will chuckle when she has to move back to Straya
>westoid garbage dying
Lmao who fricking cares?
I care because I enjoy watching them get what they deserve, why don't you?
will we finally be getting some games without gays and Black folk?
Maybe in 5 years.
Thank god, they need to clear house after the absolute trash they've been pumping out. Not that they're ever going to improve but I hate modern shitty game developers so I like to hear that they're suffering.
The timing is odd
Don't a bunch of companies end their fiscal years in May?
Dumb money is tapping out, blood in the streets soon.
Only two people in this thread who show a shred of intelligence.
>Ganker
>intelligence
pick one
? The timing is right on schedule anon. It's no longer december so they don't get bombarded with bad PR for shitcanning these useless fricked during le holiday season
>nooooooo! so many unemployed devs!!!
with how bad 2023 was for released games, are the woketards really that surprised?
I don't give a shit, I have already enough pending games to play for many years to come
>video games are dying
Good, they've been shit for the past decade+. We have enough games to play for the rest of our lifetimes as is.
ACCELERADO
Unironically a good thing. If you're not indie devving you're fricking moronic. You chose to stake your livelihood on a well-known burning trash heap and you deserve to reap the rewards of aligning yourself with a mismanaged and horribly shortsighted industry for convenience's sake.
this is so sad
>Siri play gayBlack folk from outer space
and all that will remain are gacha and survival crafting slop.
Ganker will be happy and celebrate
I can't help but notice all these layoffs seems to be in American companies and not Japanese ones.
nips will actually give people jobs to watch paint dry to avoid laying people off because they're socialists, then it become your problem if you want to have a nice day
It's mostly because of American fiscal policy. High inflation lead to the central bank and the financial reserve hiking interest rates, meaning companies that had an expansionary business model supported by cheap debt suddenly suffered massive contractions. This is also why there was a large layoff in the tech industry last year.
By contrast Japanese monetary policy hasn't changed to nearly the same degree. LACK of Japanese fiscal policy changes has actually caused the Yen to depreciate compared with the dollar, dropping from about $1=100 yen to an at time of writing $1=147 yen. Their expansionist monetary policy has stayed in place, so their currency devalued by almost 50% in the past 4 years. The argument that Japanese companies aren't producing games that bomb just isn't compelling enough to me. Plenty of American games are doing well, and plenty of Japanese games are flopping. Forespoken was a high profile Square Enix disaster, just to name one example. Monetary policy is driving these changes, not individual firm performance.
Let's rejoice and celebrate the downfall. Frick the journos, frick the devs, frick the artists and the vas. Hope that the crash will reset the industry back to fun stuff and less pretentious wannabe art.
Industry will just decide to push massive corner cutting with terrible monetization schemes to maximize profit. I can't wait for the next 15 survival clone games that spawn in the next 10 years.
The tech industry is well aware that a catastrophic recession is coming, astronomically worse than 2008, dotcom or the 70s. They are preemptively trimming fat to stave off the investor panic when it finally comes.
Prepare yourselves as well, Ganker. It's going to get bad
I work in foreclosure. You mean it's going to get GOOD
I got a decent paying job and I'm unlikely to get fired because its not entertainment homosexualry and actually rather vital.
This better make housing cheaper. I want to buy an appartment.
Feels weird seeing these threads crying out that there is a 'gaming crash' coming when it's an 'everything crash'.
>bad
It's about time, we need a market crash
More like cutting off massive amounts of fat.
That's what I hope, at least.
whos gonna replace them?
Rashnesh soft?
麦长迪克?
No these diversity hires will be shitting out even more games
>The Gaming Crash is here
No it's not. Gaming is making more money than ever before. Enjoy your endless amounts of trash
Let's be perfectly honest, it was probably just code monkeys and stay at homes hired in the pandemic
Sounds rude but it's not surprising
Most people employed by tech companies are not tech workers, they're talky sales and support types.
Marketing,"diversity",HR,QA and other shit like that with some major designers here and there for projects that are during last period of production but thats it. Tech companies started to hire moronic amount of people during pandemic plus shit economy and outsourcing being easier and better than ever doesnt bode well for western devs. More and more games will be designed by western designers but actual assets and shit by pajeets.
how many of the women posting about being laid off are going to turn to onlyfans or are already on it?
any autismites ready to do the needful and correlate accounts across twatter and onlyfans?
itll corroborate the supposition that women turn to prostitution during hard times especially considering it's post pandemic mode, there are 3.5 wars total (considering the middle eastern countries are skirmishing with each other) going on with another possible 1 starting with china
more like western gaming crash.
japan will thrive now and be free of the polution that is western woke garbage
the original gaming crash was already western
Sadly they just seem to be devoted to gachashit and remakes now, still better than western wokeslop though.
>Sadly they just seem to be devoted to gachashit
More of them need to go the Cygames route and use that gacha money to develop real games for consoles/PC.
Or at least make some decent anime.
Cygames only did that because GBF doesn’t make nearly as much as it used to. It’s designed like and old gacha and people don’t want that anymore.
Cygames is making bank with the horsepussy gacha, they are not moving away from mobile
And Uma Masume isn’t designed like GBF either.
Grubble requires an insane time investment.
>AAA gaming purge has begun
>Mfw
I told my employees; if you're not working on a project like palworld then you're a waste of resources. Pack your shit
gonna be a comfy year
Diversity hires are
>Useless
>Make the actual productive workers uncomfortable
This is why a lot of indies are a success now, those who are worth it may as well just try some minor game
Fricking finally.
>palworld
This is why your games are still immature
BRING IT DOWN
BRING IT DOWN
BRING IT DOWN
Every single company and dev could be annihilated overnight and the industry would rebound instantly because people fricking love video games and there would be billions of dollars on the table for whoever could race to fill the void. None of this news is meaningful to players, it's only for business dudes or devs worried about their jobs. Games aren't going anywhere.
We've seen flop after flop lately proving you wrong but it's pointless to argue with demoralized people, the process is complete and irreversible.
What do games flopping have to do with what I said? Games flop, studios go under, companies fail, people get fired. It's still going to be a multibillion dollar industry because people want the product. It may shrink, sure. Sometimes line goes up, sometimes line goes down. Give me your worst-case scenario.
You said this won't matter to the players but if wokeslop keeps flopping we will get better games.
I didn't mean the effects would be 100% invisible to players I meant it won't feel like a "crash" from their perspective, like oh noo video games are in trouble guys
>the game industry will continue on even if AAA shithole studios 41% themselves
>OH MY SCIENCE YOU'RE DEMORALIZED!
Fricking moron.
westoid AAA garbage is dying but you dont see the same trend when it comes to japanese games or indies.
as a matter of fact gaming for me has been better than it has been for quite a few years. Black person and troony games from amerishart corporations flopping is just the cherry on top.
Japanese games lives in a Bubble on which the morons of the old guard are about to take the flak hard
Capcom and SE being the one who started this is Ironical.
nah.
gaming is raking in 200+billion a year, anon
that's , like , half an Avengers film's budget
When the Great Reset (of vidya) happens, we have to make sure we dictate the tabula rasa moving forward.
>t. 10,000 hours in WoW, XIV, and singleplayer MMOs like DD
rofl
Reset everything back to 1990's PC Gaming standards.
Kill MMO subscription
Have Multiplayer being a main part
Embrace modding
And force everyone to learn even the basic of C language, since all of that is gone.
>And force everyone to learn even the basic of C language, since all of that is gone.
The only time I ever saw a bunch of underagedgays actually learn to code is when internet web games were still a thing. If we manage to bring back that culture, people will start to want to make their own games as well.
Anon back in the 90's everyone at schools or even at home the moment they got a pc had a book of C
Even Photoshop and 3DS Bibles used to sell a lot
I still have mine here.
I'm trying to say that motivation is more important. It's why I'm always asking for Ganker to make their own games.
I, for one, will be programming in Jai.
Many gamedevs we see now started thanks to fricking commodore and amiga coming with programmer books.
many hacking groups started as that too
Deserved, frick these woke mongrels ruining my niche hobby.
>GUYS THE INDUSTRY IS DYING THIS TIME
>I MEAN IT FOR REAL, LOOK AT THE LAYOFFS!
>THE TRANNIES ARE OUT OF BLIZZARD GUYS
>GUYS PLEASE I WANT MY DOOMSAYING TO BE CORRECT FOR ONCE!
Former employees can just go indie, I don't really see a terrible issue
They've got their pcs, they've got their skills, good luck for them
>they've got their skills
That's the problem bro. They can't do shit with their skills.
Good times
Oh I see so they're blaming this shitty system falling apart on some unnamed and nebulous financial terrorists?
Frick does anybody really believe the media on anything these days?
Just propaganda mouth pieces.
>dumb Black person sees satire article and thinks it's real
this shit has happened way too often since 2016
Zamn, I didn't realize that shitposting on a mongolian basketweaving forum was literally destroying the economy. I'll make sure to never buy Black folktone slop and to blacklist any company that affiliates itself with the glucose taste infant to crash the market faster
>vote with wallet
>get labeled terrorists by media outlet
OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEE
>western gaming
Nobody fricking cares. I hope it all dies.
Ely is SEX
>censored chinkshit
Hopefully this will be the next thing to die.
Non-american ESL here. Is laying off the same as firing someone?
yes
Damn. Thanks
Fired means you did something wrong.
Laid off means the company can't afford to keep you on.
Lay offs = not the employee's fault, usually company restructuring itself
Firing = employee's fault, whether it's severely underperforming or violating the ethics of the workspace.
"lay off" is a term invented to make companies look better when firing mass amounts of staff. They try and define it differently as no-fault but it's the same fricking thing
definitely not the same thing when your next job calls your previous job and wants to know if you were laid off vs. fired
How does it read when your next job calls your previous job and they say, "Yeah when we had lay-offs he wasn't worth keeping around"?
if you're a pol troony: the boss is israeli
if you're an actual troony: you get what you fricking deserve
Fine? You say upfront you got cut in the restructuring, you do have marketable and in-demand skills, don't you, anon?
They don't do that dude. Got fired companies never ask about it because it doesn't even matter.
Thank frick it’s about time
>thousands of woketards will suffer and die in poverty
>60% of 2023's layoffs in one (1) month
CRASHING THIS PLANE
If I were console-makers, publishers, and developers, I'd send the bills for the losses to Larry Fink, Anita Sarkeesian, and all the other fricks who told them that their customers will be ok with their woke agenda, deliberate ugliness, and race-grifting.
it's not enough yet. I want them to completely gut blizzard
This is merely the market correcting inefficiencies, remember all those non-jobs that problem hair feminists were bragging about on the internet?
Gaming companies with rational structures and that create actual value for gamers will prevail.
>Play nothing but indie, AA, niche strategy games
Everything looks great over here
LETS FRICKING GOOOOO
CRASH
CRASH
CRASH
>"Don't worry, bro! The game-buying market will respect you for having more honest depictions of women and diversity, and your sales will increase!"
right looks fricking obnoxious and i genuinely prefer left
too bad the 3d doesnt look nearly as good as that drawing though
the japs can be alright and have many designs i love but i fricking HATE THOSE PUFFY HATS
THOSE LITTLE SMALL QUIRKY HATS TILTED ON THE SIDE OF SOMEONE HEAD CAN GO SUCK THEIR OWN DICK TOO
"Tech jobs" are not real jobs. My butthole friend works for Microsoft and he thought sitting on his ass "working" remotely was his inalienable right... they made him go in 3 days a week and he said that was ridiculous. I hope all of these homosexuals get laid off and replaced by AI. Bust your ass doing real work like the rest of us you pansies.
>Bust your ass doing real work like the rest of us you pansies
No. Buzz buzz!
Good
the diversity hires deserved it
>the Biden economy is bo-Ack!!
>Western market is crashing
post your sad face
market is crashing
>the year is 2025
>GTA 6 is such a comically big release that it gives a boost to both PS and Xbox keeping the AAA hype alive
>please please please GTA6 save us please
i mean,yeah.Look at future releases,Naughty Dog is going to take awhile after their Gaas disaster,Elder Scrolls will miss this gen.Insomniac already blew their load this gen.
All AAA hope rests on Rockstar's lap
>>GTA 6 is such a comically big release that it gives a boost to both PS and Xbox keeping the AAA hype alive
This unless something truly catastrophic happens that affects GTA6's release
>mfw all my AA middle market weebshit devs are free from all this bullshit
GTAIII was the gateway for normalgays to enter this hobby, never forget.
Also this.(sadly)
I always forget Kamala is the fricking VP, she literally has ZERO presence
Has she even ever been together with biden in an appearance once??
Wouldn't be surprised if a new VP is selected for Biden. Getting the feeling she has been an absolute bust behind the scenes after her disappearance in the media after 2021.
I hope Valve is next.
Does valve even have employees anymore and if so what the frick do they even work on?
They do whatever the frick they want all day. Because they can sit on their fat asses while the store makes them money.
valve business model is a pretty efficient.
They don't have that many employees and make 30% of everything that is sold on steam.
Then they have other revenue sources like CSGO packs and Steam deck.
Nintendo and Steam will be the last men standing if the market goes breasts up.
Not reading that. Use paragraphs, moron.
>Made a billion from CS cases alone
I think they're doing alright
>I hope Valve is next.
Valve isn't a public company so they don't give a shit about quarterly profits being X% higher or what ever else moronic ex-McKinsey MBA's do at other companies.
Yeah that’s not happening
>mfw AAA westernslop is finally starting to crash
>mfw when librul troons are finally getting the -ACK
God it feels so good to only play nip and indie games.
I CALL UPON THE NAMES OF THE FORBIDDEN ONES:
ATARI
COLECO
HUDSON
3DO
SEEEEEGAAAAA
>game industry massively overhires thanks to revenue boosts from covid pandemic
>game industry has to course correct once things normalize and credit becomes less readily available
I know the general meme/probable fact is that Ganker's average user is a high schooler but it also comes with the probable fact that they also have no meaningful memory of the usual 10 year economic cycles.
If every midbudget publisher imploding at the start of gen 7 right before the great recession didn't kill the gaming industry, it's very likely something as democratized and diversified as the modern vidya market will never crash, even if it takes out one or two major publishers.
Hell this isn't even linked to economic ebb and flow. A giant ass acquisition just happened, no shit a lot of people are gonna be laid off, to say nothing of the vidya industry's usual "ship the game, fire everyone" shtick
Oh no not the diversity hireirnos
A fricking AI came shit out 1,000 new character ideas in one day. All you need is Unreal engine and a basic idea of what kind of game you want. And there are Unreal speed-builders that can build a whole area in an hour, and God knows how fast they can work to build a world map.
They need to re-evaluate the structure of gaming companies if they're gonna survive. And lose the woke shit No one wants an intentionally ugly game with black people shoved down our frickign throats in every last thing. Even black people prefer black-free Japanese anime over anything western that directly panders to them.
>Even black people prefer black-free Japanese anime over anything western that directly panders to them.
The irony is that it doesn't even pander to them, it's still made by and for middle-class white people.
>"THE VIDYA CRASH IS REALLY HAPPENING THIS TIME!" says increasingly jaded and depressed Gankerirgins for the 250th time
Or How I Learned You Can No Longer Spend 500 Million on Slop and Expect It to Succeed on Name Alone
There is no "Crash" just useless bullshit jobs getting automated.
This doesn't portend a cash it's a sign of healing. The gaming industry has become insanely bloated and cutting it all away was always going to happen eventually.
Just like the original, it only affects America but they'll pretend it was a global thing.
>no more money for libtards and globohomosexual agenda
Nature is healing
Nothing will change.
homie layoffs ALWAYS come after a merger/acquisition. There are a ton of redundant positions now at Blizzard-Activision since they're now integrated into Microsoft. It takes time to sort through all the redundant employees to figure out who is worth keeping around, who can be moved to a different position, and who they can cut. So the layoffs typically follow 1-2 quarters after the merger, sometimes a whole fiscal year later, but there's always a reckoning where the fat gets trimmed off.
>NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN' FRIEND-- I MEAN THE POOR DEVS
dont worry guys
its just covid jobs
trust me my uncle works at nintendo
>Post YFW
AAA gaming has been filled with literal shit to the brim since trannies, homosexuals, Black folk and women took over so I couldn't care less
>The Gaming Crash is here
fingers crossed
Oh no! All those diversity hirings.
Maybe if they actually made some you know, video games, instead of political shitposts in interactive format they might have kept their jobs?
Who knows?
Look at Dragonflight and Diablo 4. You know they rushed them out the door before the merger to make it look tastier for Microsoft, only for them to be hit with the reality is that Acti-blizzard is basically run by the madhouse and all the real work is outsourced to Bangladesh.
>everyone spend billions buying studios
>fire all the devs first thing
nani?
maybe they are laying off all the "diversity" hiring so gaming can actually heal or die permanently
it's fine
AI will replace them
what is that on left
Finally, let it all burn.
Tech and entertainment across the board are battening down the hatches because their investors are all slashing and burning everything because of a combination of high interest rates and the expectation among high-level shareholder think tanks and conferences that the United States federal government will collapse during the 2020s. They're hoping for a 'soft' collapse like the Soviets had but it's looking increasingly unlikely.
Most people are unaware of how much decisions at a high level, ESPECIALLY finance and tech, are being made by guys who completely and wholeheartedly expect full collapse to happen soon. If you've ever wondered why people in Silicon Valley and Hollywood keep making what seem like incredibly nearsighted or bad decisions, with no long-term thought or care, it's because an increasing amount of them do not expect for there to be a 'long term' at all and are just scratching for as much as they can to invest in underground bunkers and air filtration units and iodide tablets. It begs the question: are they right to act this way? Or is this a self-fulfilling prophecy where their lack of long-term decision making is furthering the descent and, in and of itself, making any near-future catastrophe more likely?
bro that's an article from nearly a decade ago
It's both. You don't get to their positions by leaving some things to chance.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. I had started to note how everything over the past decade especially seemed like a mad and reckless dash to plunder everything possible as quickly as possible.
Although let me offer a counter theory.
Many of these people at the top are old and on their last days. So in my mind it is more like the looming collapse is their mortality.
They're about to leave the party and they don't like the idea that it is going to continue without them.
They probably don't like the idea that most people won't even fricking miss them and probably will celebrate their departure.
So the whole thing feels like a final
>Frick you I got mine
Type of thing which is so characteristic of that generation.
If I were to put it another way....you know that saying about planting trees in which who's shade you won't be around to enjoy? Well they're cutting down the tree because frick you plant your own tree.
>
If I were to put it another way....you know that saying about planting trees in which who's shade you won't be around to enjoy? Well they're cutting down the tree because frick you plant your own tree.
i just smoke trees nowadays
>promoted to customer
frick, that's good
Gankerners are largely ignorant of cultural trends since they like to shun social media posting but these kind of 'doomsday prep for richgays' companies surfaced because these gays are all permanently online(mainly on twitter) and a community in that sice called 'chart twitter' was big at the time. think of a bunch of morons posting bullshit 'le collapse' models like world3 and peak oil over and over to scare silicon valley pajeets into spending their bitcoin fortunes on solar powered apartment bunkers.
sorry to break it to you anon but unless you start to notice it physically in your every day life like in flation, nothing ever happens. the collapse isn't gonna come save you from your shitty boring four hour life.
>think of a bunch of morons posting bullshit 'le collapse' models like world3 and peak oil over and over to scare silicon valley pajeets into spending their bitcoin fortunes on solar powered apartment bunkers
You mean /misc/
same shit slightly different ideology and website
basically
every board is /misc/ now. you can thank rapeape and his clique for that.
i don't care. sorry to break it to you like this anon but /misc/ IS Ganker and i wouldn't have it any other way even if that board is an unfunny fed/NGO infested shithole and i'd rather get my kicks directly from twitter nowadays
lol I remember in 2014 when /misc/ was hyping up ww3, then in 2015 it was REALLY gonna happen.
and on, and on, and on, and on, and on , and on...
>Gankerners are largely ignorant of cultural trends since they like to shun social media
We are on Ganker you fricking moron, there are more threads about normalgays politics, than actual vidya
I heckin love capitalists, such bright fellows at organizing a society.
As opposed to?
It's not just a collapse scenario that is being prepared for. There is overwhelming sentiment that 15 years from now the entire business landscape will be completely different. That assumption also requires there be a transition from then to now, and transitionary periods are super painful.
>Or is this a self-fulfilling prophecy where their lack of long-term decision making is furthering the descent and, in and of itself, making any near-future catastrophe more likely?
No, they're not. A lot of them are just complete morons who somehow fail to realize that if any "collapse" does come it will be because of their actions - yet many (but not all) pretend that its somehow beyond their control all moved by forces outside their hands, when they in most cases have a large culpability for these behaviors.
>shortsighted
This has nothing to do with expecting a collapse. This is just late stage capitalism being late stage capitalism. The line must always go up , any lost potential for profit is bad , we push every trend as long as possible and it still pays off no matter the secondary effects. Outside of a handful of near religious prepper types who have constantly been wrong about everything (the FEMA camps are going to be activated any day now! All the COVID19 conspiracies about the 5G chips and other stupid etc), those who like to talk about planning for a collapse is just a grifting attempt to push certain stocks higher and other forms of market manipulation - its no different than the gun lobby in the US pulling "DEMONCRAT IN DE OFFICE! HESA GONNA TAKE U GUNERINOS! BETTER GO BUY A BUNCH OF NEW GUNS AND AMMO NOW" and then "REPUBLICAN MAGA IN THE OFFICE! YOU HAZ FREEDOM TO BUY LOTS OF GUNS BETTER GO BUY A BUNCH NOW" - the answer is always to buy more guns, but it doesn't matter how accurate the assertions are, just the manipulation outcome is good for their business -again just capitalism gonna capitalism.
Its absolutely a self-fulfilling prophecy that, even if we don't get the "collapse" they envision completely, it leads to way more suffering for the average people but make no mistakes its not them betting on the end of the world, its just they're betting on anything that makes them profit, no matter if it leads to any type of suffering or the end of the world. Its just the same in gaming with shit lik gacha or item malls - horrible ,exploitative shit but massively profitable with only a few
>tfw multimillionaire
>tfw gacha whale
>tfw commie-poorgays are stuck with modern AAA and crying about it on Ganker
KEK
You just love the taste of corporate butthole that much, anon? If millionaire, why would you want to spend money on stupid gacha shit - that's literally the equivalent of being Black person rich with big gold chains and rims. Actual rich people will look at you and sneer for frivolous stupidity the same way they do at some nouveau riche with his gold plated diamond studded iphone. How tacky.
Then again you don't really give a shit about any of that and your election tourist brainworms just decided that if "commies" think breathing air is good, you'll jam your head underwater just to show those libtards.
>spoiler
Finally
two more weeks
>people are losing faith in western AAA games
about fricking time
>the person who made this chart is so out of touch they believe these games are all of the same quality
grim
Jedi Survivor was good though. It just had bad PC performance at launch.
Nah, it's just Q1 financial reports. this happens every quarter with publicly traded companies.
they are just wiping all he vax deaths off the records
>2 MORE WEEKS
ok so unironically, why aren't russian Black folk?
Still got homm3, D2 and Nox to play whenever I want
at least we got cod on PS5 right guys
you guys know whenever you hear about "MASSIVE LAYOFFS" it's usually either diversity hires, temporary hires, or PR people, right?
>you guys know whenever you hear about "MASSIVE LAYOFFS" it's usually either diversity hires, temporary hires, or PR people, right?
This. DEI and ESG matters when courting investment, but with interest rates right now nobody cares about that shit, they wanna see profits. DEI incentives do frick-all for profits, which everybody has always known, but you weren't allowed to say because of that homosexual Larry Fink. Nobody needs a million diversity hired, women-in-tech "influencers" and shit like that, this feels like the clown world we've built up since 2008 is finally collapsing.
> If you've ever wondered why people in Silicon Valley and Hollywood keep making what seem like incredibly nearsighted or bad decisions, with no long-term thought or care, it's because
...investors care about near-term returns over long-term stability. This isn't a tech exclusive thing, this is literally what any company says in their town halls, about the responsibility to their shareholders. Unfortunately money comes from customers, not shareholders, so when they frick up like with Hollywood recently they can easily lose consumer trust.
Shit-stained brown hands wrote this, the US economy needs to trim some fat and will be right back to kicking ass.
Good, triple a gaming got far too expensive and bloated. It's time to go back to smaller teams and budgets.
Microshit doesn't represent the gaming industry LMAO
Ikr! It's only the biggest tech company on the planet!
It's time to make actual video games instead of libtard propaganda
But then how can they hire dipshit middle managers for bloated teams of useless hires if they don't have 500 million dollar budgets for each game?
>mfw
Good. The west needed to be humbled. I doubt they'll learn anything from this though; they'll just double down on everything and become more resentful.
it's not a crash, it's a labor market correction. i fricking wish it was a crash though. layoffs aren't enough, i want 1983 levels of crash and burn.
This isn't a huge crash, this is just Microsoft dealing with the garbage that was ActiBlizz which was overstuffed with employees and making garbage. The biggest concern here is that surely the industry will learn the WRONG lesson and go further down the shitty gacha garbage live service path, despite Blizz torpedoing most of their games because of this shit. People aren't playing Diablo IV as much as D3 because of the battle pass seasons of everything PLUS $30 outfits and $25 mount skins and other shit not included there - hell during the BETA they had a "you can only get this mount if you beat the super boss that spawns only every couple of hours during this literal 48 hour beta" , talk about FOMO shit to say nothing for monetization to come. Same thing with the garbage of Overwatch 2 - its sad when Overwatch 1's lootboxes - including holiday ones - you coudl unock through playing and collect currency to buy rare skins when they came around seems positively player friendly by comparison to what it has now.
>comparing it to D3, the israeliteiest game in existence, where the in-game currency is actual currency
>in favour of D3
you're delusional, no amount of shitty skins can ever top the shitshow that was Diablo 3.
>corporations want increasing growing profit margins so every game is getting bigger and bigger in hopes that it'll be a massive success and every flop is crashing harder and harder
How is this supposed to be financially viable again? Do these people think the amount of gamers in the world just constantly grows exponentially or some shit
turns out the people at the top of the corporate ladder aren't any better or smarter than the average joe, they just have a lot more power to misuse
the amount of players was in fact increasing exponentially because many third world countries were joining the market.
that might be over by now though.
It doesn't matter if it's sustainable. It's about the current CEO and current shareholders making as much money as possible then as soon as things take a bad turn they retire/sell for even more money and leave everybody below them, that had no say in the operation of the company, to suffer the consequences of their shortsighted actions. Welcome to modern capitalism.
Sounds awful, we should all become CEOs.
It's about fricking time.
If it actually mattered, we'd hear notable names and core staff outraged, probably beginning their own studio.
In reality it's just the massive bloat of leeches that aren't needed anymore.
If anything it's amusing to see these leeches get a reality check, to realize just how expendable they were.
Pretty crazy that its not just Activision Blizzard now, its Microsoft Activision Blizzard
Maybe muttland should consider banning corporations from snowballing like this eh? Never would have happened in Europe
Honestly? Good.
More independent studios.
Bring back the old day of fatasses in their garage.
If I was to apply the tinfoil hat, I think this is a "human" problem, not an economic one on the grand scale.
I think we're at the point where the west essentially can't grow further. Most families require two employed parents to sustain a very meager living and based on the current trajectory most of them neither do nor will ever own housing. This is despite both parts having to work harder to be "effective" at their jobs and have to achieve more in shorter timeframes. The result of low quality-of-life and stress from work mean fewer children (because children are expensive and cause more stress). And I think that's what we're seeing now. A lot of millennials now having babies, or having too few, while the trend seems to be even worse among zoomers. Gen-alpha isn't exactly shaping up to "save us" either as they're just inheriting a slightly worse world from the zoomies.
TL;DR: I don't think humans -can- or should be pushed to further effectiveness and we're essentially killing ourselves by forcing it.
How would you solve something like this?
id probably cut sugar and start lifting more
That's the sad part: I have no fricking clue. If we decide to cut humanity some slack and see if we can't stabilize our population/stress levels again we'll get ruined with debt as pretty much every financial sector will collapse over night. We're in an economy that can't afford to say:
>"You know what? From now on all our employees will only work half as much, and spend more time socializing, making friends and falling in love."
I have no better alternative, but one of the most core and fundamental flaws of capitalism (or whatever you call this hell we exist in) is that you can't ever take a single step backwards. You can't even look backwards or think the thought of going backwards. Forward and upward until death.
The infinite growth game of these massive corporations is causing this squeeze.
Do more with less. Pay people less make them do more work and then also charge more for the products.
Every company is doing it and the ones that are not are forced into doing it by how interconnected the flow of goods and services are.
So eventually you reach a point where you have all these people working to produce products that nobody can afford in either money or time.
The housing part is the worst of it because even rent is super expensive.
At that point you have lost the one basic thing people need to be invested in the continuation of society. The knock-on effects of this is that you get tragedy of the commons but placed to society.
Good luck convincing the modern day serf to pick up a pitch fork to defend your slummy apartment complex from invaders. He doesn't even own anything inside that apartment to defend anyway.
>Good luck convincing the modern day serf to pick up a pitch fork to defend your slummy apartment complex from invaders.
Do you seriously believe the average Joe will get a say in this? If Russia invades Canada tomorrow, do you think the man on the street will be asked if he -wants- to defend his country, or do you think he'll be conscripted and be forced to?
Most people who own nothing and have nothing can't even see the prison they're in Anon.
basically we need to abolish the stock market
Kinda. It sucks that you can't start the bakery you want or a house to live in until you're 50 because you can't have a loan though, because no one (including banks) can invest in you.
I kid but that might actually be better long-term.
What exactly is stopping us from giving out loans without adding percentages to it?
Me. Sorry, I thought it'd be funny.
Nobody, at any point in human history past small tribes, ever fought in war because of their own desires.
Oh no people are often convinced of their need to fight.
A lot of it is culture and religion and "way of life" and all of that stuff. God and country type of things.
But since the people are the top saw more control and profit in eroding and removing such notions and ideals...wellllll...
You'd have to do what
But now you're left with the problem of an inherently disloyal army.
On top of that, take the US for example, the racial and political divides have been increased to such a degree that you are just flirting with friendly fire constantly by putting guns in the hands of these people forced together.
There is a reason beyond theatrics as to why the US government flipped their shit over some tourists on Jan 6th and then started to talk a big game about their military tech.
They're scared to death of even the whispers of an armed uprising. They know they are basically fricked.
>own housing
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Future generations will not own cars, furniture, appliances or really anything. Everything will be rented, financed or """shared""" while only the very tiny percentage of "owners" will own.
Sucks to be you, pleb. Personally, I own a collection of cartoon ape images.
>2023 is apparently the best year in gaming
>immediately followed by massive layoffs
SHILLS LOST AAA LOST NORMALS LOST GET FRICKED AND STAY OUR OF OUR HOBBY
Maybe they should just learn to mine coal?
Member when Elon fired like 80% of xitters staff and it had zero effect?
Elon is an anomaly, he's not a standard.
>zero effect
twitter got better and have no leftie censorship on it
B-but twitter lost money!!11
>no leftie censorship on it
Nah Musk still censors people , Twitter is still gay shit for Black folk
What happens when these autists flood the labor market? They sort of require their own bubbles to operate and that is gone.
Some of these people are great sellers. They know what to say to impress people, so a lot of them will sneak into other fields.
It's not computer autists who work at tech companies any more. It's normalgays who don't do shit which is why they're getting fired
this is also why every single new app or program runs like fricking shit and everything is bloated.
imagine if we still only had super autists working on computer systems. We'd literally have Windows XP 2 and it would be lightning fast
the shitty performance wouldn't be as bad if they didn't fricking blame the consumers for it.
The Xbox app (i got 3 months of gamepass for a dollar) was running like shit and the support staff told me it was my hardware was too poor for it. Funny, because everything else I use ran just fine and a month later they put out a survey about "what should we focus on" and app performance was the first fricking thing it mentioned.
B I D E N O M I C S
It's finally here.
>1,900
Looks like the poojeets will have to be redeeming those unemployment checks soon.
And nothing of value was lost.
In a few more years I hope the US just pulls out of the entertainment sector completely.
uhoh h2b sirs. Our response?
Gaming isn’t crashing you absolute tomato brain. Three company’s are finally cutting the dead weight loose for AI.
There's no crash, everything isn't "falling apart". Layoffs of excess workers is a normal part of transitioning to a non-zero interest rate environment. Money is no longer free. Most corporations became massively bloated during the free money era and can lay off massive quantities of employees with zero tangible effect.
When gaming dies, the way will be clear for gaming to be good once again.
That's the cycle of nature.
Could these layoffs spread to other industries? I have been milking my wfh arrangements since covid began, and I'm worried I'm next.
gaming crash?
so the trannies not get money and the chuddies get based games again?
took long enough
Honest question. How much did Microsoft overpay on Blizzard now that next-big-thing survival game is vaporware? You know they were hyping the shit out of it before the merger to bloat the price as high as possible
>Blizz
They bought them for King and Activision. Blizzard is just a bonus.
Feels good man, clean the table
Call me when they start firing people who didn't have it coming.
The probably caught on to how much money ActiBliz spends on self fellating itself and trimmed all the useless people.
Public castration of "game developers".
>all the DEI hires after Fl*yd finally being laid off
Good riddance.
>DEI and ESG shit is finally dying
gaming is healing
They're getting laid off because they have cheaper with pajeets and ai. enjoy your 100$ goyslop, subhuman.
Real reason he was fired is he wasn't woke enough. He doesn't even list his pronouns!
>all of these useless wienersuckers finally going back to slurping semen as a livehood
Good riddance. I hope high interest rates go on forever so idiots finally have to deal with their poor life choices.
Turns out hiring a bunch of morons to do busy work was a waste of money
Who coulda thunk
>turns out it's cheaper to have ai do that work instead
ftfy
This doesn't affect a single product I care about. Big industry games are trash.
nothing will happen
half of them were trannies, industry is healing
Crash? that's what cleaning the useless looks like
Good, bloated studios produce slop. A small dedicated workforce is infinitely more efficient.
>NEET acting like he knows anything about how a business is optimally run
my sides
Found the "Senior Executive Community Communications Support Operations Assistant Manager" that caught a layoff.
>jews are too busy covering their bad press from Gaza war crimes
>suddenly is fine to fire all pozzed diversity hires
Really makes you think
Just purging all the useless DEI hires that the good times created.
>1900 developers are free from being under the microsoft touch of shit that ruins everything
I bet most of em are shit, but if one good developer was released from that crap company, its already a win for gaming in general.
Unless they get hired by sony or nintendo that will again squander the talents.
I thought the inflation was getting better, why are they still doing layoffs in 2024
that's historically the trend that happens in this situation
Nothing of value was lost. If anything, this is good for gaming. The less AAA cancer the better for everyone.
not only gaming, but tech
>Microsoft buys Blizzard
>first thing they do is fire all the dead weight
Fricking based. Now put HotS on steam.
HotS is dead weight.
>mfw they are just laying off all the artists because they have AI for that now
how does japan and asia always manage to avoid layoffs in tech and games
the west is eating shit right now
I was wondering if Hunt Down the Freeman's director is still working for Activision Blizzard. Turns out he's a senior designer at Playstation according to his LinkedIn profile. Good for him. Good for him.
>Production coordinator
I don't even know what does that mean
Setting things up, arranging purchases, meetings with suppliers, etc
Basically a glorified secretary.
You say it like it's a bad thing.
He's a secretary for the producers.
Cutting the excessive fat finally?
>Crash
>When it's mostly worthless dangerhairs that are getting laid off
More like Gaming Healing is here
>dumb gamers thought microsoft acquiring such a big company was okay since they would kick the tirant Bobby out and save the employees.
>dumb gamers thought microsoft would improve blizzard
>acquisition complete, microsoft fires 20% of the studio and cancels their games
THE ABSOLUTE KEK OF KEKIMUS MAXIMUM YOU ABSOLUTE moronS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S ABSOLUTELY OVER BLIZZARD IS NO MORE
The only people who cried about Bobby Kotick were talentless diversity hires and ridiculous stories like the disappearing breast milk which were 50% bullshit. (Not that Kotick was worth defending since under his watch the company deteriorated and hired all that bullshit to begin with.)
Dipshit killing blizzard IS any improvement
Better that they're dead than rotting
I got fired this week, I'm a game and graphics programmer. Thinking of just taking a break to be honest, the market is behaving really weird and nobody wants to take creative risks.
>the market is behaving really weird
elaborate
Most of the offers available are just bad shovelware or FOTM imitations. Plenty of casino, nft or crypto games and honestly these places just want to suck out any passion you may have left and remind you how greedy some frickers can be.
>gaming crash
more like recession
everything is going to go from bad to worse
good
frick devs
>resetera is starting to think their mods are bought and paid for by MS
lol
Ganker too, why else would the DALL-E spam threads still be up?
An outright crash is unlikely but things are definitely getting shaken up which is arguably a good thing.
>homosexuals, women, and Blacks that sit around all day having gay "meetings", in other words doing fricking nothing of ANY type of value, getting fired from their make-believe jobs
damn what a tragedy
It didn't have to be like this, I just wanted to play good video games with my bros again.
How many of those people actually did any real work on a video game?
Good
Good
Let's make 2024 the year we end AAA western gaming and tipping culture
My beloved L4D ripped this week too. Asked for a complete refund through Steam even though I bought it retail at Wal-Mart back in '09. Demanded a $50 Steam gift card as well for my trouble. When they decline then I will resubmit the complaint but tack on an extra $50 each time just because.
any news on how it's crashing in Japan?
>gaming is healing
WOOHOO
That just sounds like a new owner is trimming the fat, happens every time one company buys another. It'll be mostly management and redundant departments let go.
Crash was pre-nintendo when home consoles sucked ASS. It wil never EVER happen again.
Perhaps they could learn to code?
I'm alarmed by the fact the highest % of games I liked was in the 360/PS3/Wii/PSP/DS generation.
looks reasonable
Well I'm in my 30s so I always assumed the highest % of games I liked would have been from the PS1 or PS2 generation. But I went through my top 100 or so games and the highest % was from the 360 gen.
also, what program? sorry about the spam
It's not really a program. I just keep a list of my top games on backlogged https://www.backloggd.com/ and just manually counted which games were from which gen and put them into this pie chart website https://www.meta-chart.com/pie
Oh, shit, good effort.
I think it makes sense. Well, you can rationalize it anyway. Still plenty of new, experimental stuff, lot of good series hitting their stride, and it's well past the 3d transition with all its jank.
Eve, Stellar Blade. Higher than Grahams number lvl wife of Maciej Nowicki
I just woke up, what did I miss?
It seems like lots of people in the game industry are just losing jobs. That's what i think the situation is. I also don't know the details
>that one project Blizzgays have been hyping up is also now gone
Kek.
House status = cleaned.
Considering Microsoft Gaming’s output last year the company should have fired all of them.
Mike Ybarra and Allen Adham is gone
There are also no name ex-Blizz employees doing AMAs and it shows how they actively despite their fans lmao.
despise*
Oh no that sucks
Would Ganker be celebrating if it was one of their precious Japanese companies collapsing like this? Fricking hypocrites.
I would if it was squeenix
I'd be delighted if Capcom got rid of their upper management.
I pray every day for the swift death of Capcom
What's wrong? You don't want ReReRemake?
Ganker would cheer if Square, Sega or Capcom had layoffs or collapsed.
We are celebrating subhuman morons getting fricked in the ass, and we would mourn actual human beans (jap vidya companies) suffering. There is nothing hypocritical in this, as you would surely see if you had the extra 70 IQ points required for you to join the 3 digit IQ club.
>market pumping
>Ganker: it's a recession
kek
pumping
lol no its not
>every index fund has gone up over the last year
>every good adviser got 20% for their clients
>full recovery from the down year
>market is not pumping
kek
>a bunch of homosexuals who don't produce any actual value moved money around and changed the definition of unemployment
>this totally makes up for the hyper inflation killing the middle class
lmao
>middle class
If you are middle class and not invested in index funds, then you are almost certainly lower middle class, the lowest one can possibly be KEK
>i don't have any actual argument so ad hominem about you monetary status
lol
you'll be posting pink wojaks in Ganker soon™
By gaming crash I assume you mean ESG running out of money and now no one no longer has incentive to keep diversity hires for investor money
>Corporate America engaging in late stage capitalism
Nothing burger.
Call me when Nintendo starts doing mass layoffs, then we have a crash.
>late stage capitalism
They are literally just firing the diversity hires and HR women who got jobs only because moronic commies within the organization wanted to play as activists while the people in charge got convinced to do so because of the enticing ESG scores.
Good.
Nothing EVER happens.
>its crashing soon bro two more weeks bro no more trannies bro please believe me bro its true bro
>ESG are no longer since high interest rates make expensive to throw money at idiots
>DEI, HR and all the fat comprised of useless clowns getting fired 24/7
>woke media products (Forspoken, Saints row, Redfall, Starfield, etc) going broke left and right
>and this unpaid moron shilling for the fake promises of his troony discord handler of being someone important after the revolution thinks he is winning
Hahahaha jesus chist you are pathetic lmao.
These are the same morons who posts this
because le AVGN said so and spergs when it isn't true at all.
All that happened from 81-85 is happening again
>it's happening bro youre a troony bro please im not coping bro
>Cucku posting
Ganker isn't a anime website troony
You are seeing lay off notices of useless subhumans like you on twatter all day, what else you need you stupid moron.
By the way, do you know why you haven't been fired too? Because firing a moronic imbecile that works for free is pointless lmao.
Double it and then quadruple it.
I cannot fricking wait for an industry crash, the games that come out of it are going to be legendary.
Maybe they could make better games lol
I've been playing hell let loose, gungeon, and palworld. None are from AAA studios.
say it with me; THANK YOU PALWORLD
Xbox physical games are dead