The Karma Meter doesn't even mean jackshit in New Vegas unlike in 3.
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It barely mattered at all, in ANY fallout game. Local reputation ALWAYS trumped karma.
>It barely mattered at all, in ANY fallout game
this. Why does 3 fans try to lord over NV fans using insignificant shit?
The Talon Company might be the worst faction in the whole series.
stop being nice
They’re just mercenaries. There’s nothing particularly offensive about them.
>inb4 but they hunt you for being good
Given how many bad people are in the wasteland, it stands to reason that you playing hero would piss off a few people who want their evil deeds to proceed uninterrupted.
>D-did that hobo just give another hobo a bottle of water? AAAAGH EVIL COMPANY HELP ME, IM GOING INSANE
based
Even the gunners made more sense as you see them protecting settlements in certain quests if you let Preston rot in concord
I still can't believe someone designed the Talon Company's logo and was paid for it
>dude they're the evil company
>but like, like REALLY evil
>they probably eat babies, that's how evil they are
>they're against you, Wasteland Jesus
>make their logo be a crow with a skull for a head kidnapping a poor crying baby
Honestly the only thing missing is a swastika on the skull's forehead or something, it's moronicly edgy holy shit
I can imagine Pete Hines unironically saying your greentext to the art team
>>they probably eat babies, that's how evil they are
I like to think that Pete Hines ACTUALLY said that to the art team and one of them made this flag like this out of spite because how stupid the idea was.
Gunners are frickin cool.
Hopefully sim settlements 2 next update will actually let you join them, since from the trailer it seems like you can only fight them
Fallout 3 is a fricking cartoon, practically Fable right down to the garbage voice acting.
I don't think I ever saw their logo before. Holy shit, that's hilariously dumb.
Good, it’s a stupid system to begin with.
doesn't mean shit in either game because both are shit no worth playing
most of the time you need to go out of your way to be evil in order to loose karma and the options that do so have other disadvantages for local reputation so it was always pretty useless
>not rebooting a computer 500 times
Good.
Faction reputation is superior in every way
Karma doesn’t matter than much in 3 either. 3 has hidden variables for faction loyalty and whether of not certain settlements are hostile and those end up mattering way more. Karma really just affects Three Dog’s opinion of you and also what the Slavers of Paradise Falls think if you.
Karma also affects which followers can you get.
Yeah, I forgot about that. I actually quite like that Karma affects those. An ex-raider like Jericho isn’t looking to play hero, and while Butch isn’t exactly a saint, some things are too edgy even for him.
Yeah and then there's a robot who will leave you if you aren't neutral enough. Fantastic.
Robots have personalities in the Fallout universe. RL3 is an ex-army combat robot who doesn’t like pansies, but also has a moral code.
She’s a complete psycho. The implication is that you can’t handle her if you’re not also a little crazy.
>RL3 is an ex-army combat robot who doesn’t like pansies
>kill a bunch of cannibals
>wow you're such a pansy
>The implication is that you can’t handle her if you’re not also a little crazy.
>Kill the entire paradise falls population
>kill homosexual pimp on stealth boy
>she just stands there, you can't buy/hire her
>she's too creazy for you bro
Yeah but you killed BAD people, that's a total pansy move.
Dunno bro, killing an entire town because you felt like they are moraly evil doesn't seem like a good guy move to me
Yeah we should just let evil people continue doing evil things.
>just nuke all the "evil" people
neverending cycle
Tell me the solution or get off your high horse.
>killing an entire town because you felt like they are moraly evil doesn't seem like a good guy move to me
Well, it is in FO3.
Not being able to buy the prostitute in Paradise Falls because you are not evil is bullshit.
All Fallout games are shit.
TES VI isn't coming out until the 2030's. Relax
but you get the same ending evil or not
A couple lines of dialog change
Yes but in the end cutscene Ron Pearlman talks about how much of a peice of shit you actually were.
>lazy fricks reused the vanilla ending slide for if you sacrifice the BoS bimbo for Broken Steel
>that means the game calls you out even if you have Broken Steel installed and you act like a normal fricking human being that isn't moronic and you send the Super Mutant into the radiation chamber
Thanks Todd
>kill some defenseless old lady for her unique shotgun
>you're still cool since you massacred some powder Black folk for fun lol
I love the Mohave
>defensless
>shotgun
Was she using it as a walking stick or something?
>hey stranger how about we travel together
>hey you know that sounds like a pretty good idea let’s g-
>wait, hold on
>*heavy squinting and chin rubbing*
>*circles around you, looking up and down*
>are you…nice?
>uh yeah that shits not gonna fly with me bud, come back after you’ve hacked a few more computer terminals
thanks Bethesda
This is why karma is stupid. Noone is going to know your affinity just by looking at you and it becomes totally irrelevant when reputation is already a thing.
> Noone is going to know your affinity just by looking at you
Speak for yourself, sweaty. I can see your aura.
Go frick yourself. Robots dont have an aura.
Agree. Maybe they planned to use it in earlier stages of development and it gave birth to the reputation system, which does matter and it's overall a better way to determine if you're "good" or "bad". Makes more sense considering the setting at least.
The funny thing is that 3 already had a reputation system of sorts (you could improve affinity with certain factions by repeatedly doing things for them), it’s just that this variable was hidden. NV just made the variable visible.
>Blow up a city
>Everyone loves me because I gave a hobo 30 bottles of water
Incredible
Losing karma for situations no one sees, like stealing without getting caught, is fricking stupid.
>murder, cannibalize, enslave, and nuke a ton of people
>give a hobo some water and say some nice words around
Yup, all is forgiven and forgotten, poor misguided soul deserves a second chance
>save the wasteland, do the impossible so now people can drink clean water, become a true hero
>steal a bunch of prewar food and some ammo to continue saving such wasteland
What a fricking butthole, scum of the earth HOW COULD YOU?? Literally the devil
>kill ghouls who try to kill people living in the tower
>EVIL act
>fallout 3
>be good guy
>you get people who show up to try and kill you
>be bad guy
>you get people who show up to try and kill you but there wearing dusters
wow
Karma is just supposed to be your reputation, so of course when an actual reputation mechanic is added for each faction, then karma is gonna be pushed to the background. It's that whole thing of
>wow, you're a face-eating cannibal bastard with a reputation of murdering and brutally torturing or humiliating anyone that crosses your path
>but hey you only do it to our enemies and these are desperate times, so yeah you can hitch a ride with us into New Vegas
Yeah they could've done more, since I know there'd be at least a few people more than just Cass that won't help or like a crucifying cannibal, but its general purpose is just supplanted by a more nuanced system