>the Minotaurs are the High Lords of Terra's pets and this is their excuse for the bullshit they do
>Roboute Guilliman is now the boss of the High Lords of Terra
>The Ultramarines HATE the Minotaurs and have permab& them from their territory after they massacred a loyalist Ultras successor chapter for no reason
>Roboute Guilliman is the Primarch of the Ultramarines
Oh no. Traitor Minotaurs when?
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stupid thread with zero context; great work OP
God, I hate 40gay fans
>i hate the reason this board exists
frick off then
Then why do you come to their board?
I wouldn't go to Ganker if I hated cooking, or Ganker if I hated cargays.
depending how you look at it, it's either an interesting question that GW are too cowardly to explore because it would invalidate a marine army and/or another second order consequence that GW never thought about before bulldozing its own lore with Bigger Batman.
Did the custodes catch up to the Minotaurs and give them Primaris Marines and Geneseed?
If they did, it ignores the conflict or implies BigG doesn't care.
If they didn't, and GW ever paints a minotaur that isn't Firstborn, it implies they stole that from some other chapter, which is thematic but steers back into the question of why weren't they punished?
I expect GW will never address any of this.
The primaris upgrades are done by apothecaries in-house by chapters and gulliman doesn’t know or particularly care to investigate the large, large number of chapters with unknown lineage that are likely all chimeric/traitor gene seed
Yes, but they get all the resources(Geneseed) and knowledge necessary to perform the procedures from the indomitus crusades or delegates from the custodes sent by Lord Gulliman. Not to mention the new suits and gear.
Alternatively you could BloodRaven that stuff from some chapter the Highlords had a beef with
it would make for an interesting book, if handled correctly, It would be stupid to waste resources like an entire chapter so maybe send the Minotaurs on a penance crusade of the shittiest variety. They earn the right o become primaris. plus you could hype up first-born too. Thats if GW was any good tho
But it would make Rowbutt look like the petty atheist bueaucrat he is instead of the enlightened Eldussy-slaying chad GW hawks to Reddit.
I mean if it pisses off Reddit I'll write the book myself. What would be the worse but most needed mission you'd send the Minos?
Nids are the in-setting Frick You according to the Cadian books.
I'd think about a 'holding action' against the Tau. It might not kill them, but it would cripple them and that's exactly the kind of actuarial gimmick the rational primarch would cloak his actions in.
They have to find Jaghati Khan
The third one is that cheo has him in the black library with that one sister of battle and he has them take part in a wacky races course as the token human team.
Do not trust deldar women.
I made that mistake once, and I'm still recovering from the mess left behind.
What's petty about giving a problem chapter who is named after a fricking Beastmen strain* something constructive to do instead of playing Commissar and teamkilling nigh-irreplaceable units of the Imperium?
*I actually find this one of the more curious aspects of the Minos and would find it neat if they had to actually interact with loyalist Gors at some point, and maybe even found a mutual respect from the most-unliked of abhumans.
I wonder if Cawl has experimented with trying the Astartes creation process on various Abhuman strains? What would a Primaris Minotaur, LITERAL minotaur, be like? Probably more like a House Goliath Zerker?
He absolutely has. Guilliman even thinks internally that Cawl has probably been creating Primaris out of Traitor Legions already anyway. Then there's that "Sons of the Phoenix" Primaris chapter.
More likely they'd just kill them and move on
Bobby G just quietly reassigns them all to park ranger duty on some shithole world and doesn't send their wargear with them. The Marines Malevolent too. Problem solved.
I don't think anyone over there in GW even remembers this much about the Minotaurs, let alone the Ultramarines beef with them, or, frankly, anything about any of this shit. You are right to not expect them to address this, because they don't know that there is anything TOO address.
>another second order consequence that GW never thought about before bulldozing its own lore with Bigger Batman.
100% this. It's not even a question this is what happened.
The Minotaurs defended the High Lords trying to coup Guilliman and fought the SoS and Custodes until the traitors were killed and a loyalist High Lord told them to frick off and they did. This is the closest GW ever got to touching the topic and pretty much seems to have shoved it to the side as a nonissue by confirming them as mindless High Lord drones.
>Fighting the Custodes and Sisters of Silence
How badly did they get stomped?
I do not recall a stomping but it's been a few years since I read it.
A regular loyalist Space Marine chapter would be completely fricked against the Custodes alone.
Custodes don't hang around in groups a thousand strong.
It only takes one to beat a thousand mere-reens.
Sauce on that?
>muh power levels
Two (2) minotaurs in the book grapple a custodes and literally bend him backwards until he breaks in half, so your thesis is wrong
As expected of Perturabo's geneseed.
He simply cannot stop winning. Somewhere, he's finally built his ideal dream city with perfectly aesthetic architecture, after thoroughly proving his superiority to Dorn and achieving total validation, knowing that even his Loyalist ex-children are making Imperials seethe.
indeed brother
Minotaurs are... weird, and not an amazing example of a more typical space marine chapter. Their gene-seed is classified instead of just being ambiguous, and who knows what frickery has gone on under the hood.
>Their gene-seed is classified instead of just being ambiguous
It's described as chimeric and OG Minotaurs before Lords of Terra decided to recreate them were Cursed Founding.
So there is some serious frickery going there + they have all the cool toys since they are High Lords pet chapter.
Thet have new production MkIII armor for starters
Pretty badly, though Asterion Moloc is assessed by a Custodian as plausibly dangerous.
>don't know if I could actually beat him
>plausibly dangerous
kek
>muh power levels
Actual combat is about circumstances and tactics, not gay statistics.
Correct. I fricking hate the power level direction 40k has gone in for the last 20 years.
Back in the day, Space Marines were total badasses, but could still get slaughtered in an ambush or under bad circumstances. Daemonifuge has a sequence where a whole squad gets butchered after teleporting in to a prepared killzone. The old Dark Eldar codex made a point that their superhuman toughness just makes their suffering worse when Haemonculi get a hold of them. Fricking Orks canonically tricked and butchered Astartes from time to time.
This didn't make the Marines wimps, it made their enemies dangerous, so when the Astartes do kick absolute ass, it means something.
>nooooooo you can't obey lawful orders from the highest authorities of humankind!
Bobby G is a warp juiced golem not a human bean.
They're not obeying the legal authority though. They just obey whichever High Lord spoke to them last. If they operated on any principle other than blind obedience they would not have sided with the traitors in the first place or withdrawn when the traitors died and the cause was lost. Not fight on until a loyal High Lord tells them to switch teams with no traitor to countermand the order and immediately do so without question as if they never sided with the losing faction in the first place.
In the watchers of the throne books (I think) there was a squad of marines who fight some custodes, they were like 4 primaris, 7 firstborn or something. As you said, they address nothing lmao
>nu41k
Nope, Lake Giveafrick has been completely dredged of care. There's not a single nugget of frick left.
Kindly take your abortion of a setting and abscond post-haste.
can you just not come into this thread to cry over 40k lore?
>cry over 40k lore
I wasn't. Learn to read, illiterate moron.
Also, WH40k has fluff, newbie.
seems like hed send them on bullshit suicide missions first so the enemies of the imperium can deal with them and not risk losing imperial forces
The Minotaurs work for the Master of the Administratum. The current holder of that office was appointed by Guilliman. This is all in the novel Watchers of the Throne: The Regents Shadow.
lol, newbies
I dunno, ask /40kg/
Wait, why would Gilliman hate them? Minotaurs fricked up some marines Gilliman wouldn't even know about let alone care. IF ANYTHING, Gilliman is like "Ok, give them over to someone who isn't next to Ultramarines, done?" Then have them go frick up some Nids WHILE making sure they get the support the need because Guilliman got bigger things to worry about.
>>Oh no. Traitor Minotaurs when?
Never. Since Robby G is in charge they answer to him as Guilliman is the top dog among the High Lords now.
They simply won't be capable of bullying Ultramarine successors anymore like they did with the Inceptors Chapter (Marine Chapter, not the stupid unit).