The thing is now a dumpster PC or 150 dollar 4 watt mini-pc can do PS1 perfectly, the PS1 can be soft-modded or fitted with an ODDE, the Mister PS1 core works great and every android device new enough to still have a functional battery is a fine option on the go. I would have loved decent to good PS1 emulation on my wii 15 years ago but so many better options are available now.
Raspberry Pi can do that. And I don't mean the current overpriced version. RPi 3 is fast enough to run any PS1 game at full speed. I could get one new in a box for 35 EUR right now.
Wii has better composite out than the Pi, Wiis are also cheaper (you likely have one already)
5 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly its not even that bad. Nta i have one and i got it on 480i mode with a 240p style shader over it and it looks frickin amazing. I have ran into next to no glitches. Besides one game. Called Blade. For one level it loads in all rainbow colors and it looks frickin super crazy. All i had to do to fix it. Was save turn it off load back in and it was gone and never happened again. Ive not played through every game on my list so i cant speak for it. But these games all played amazing
Mega man 4 , metal gear solid and vr missions, lapd future cop and a few others.
Its really worth it. You can even put it in 240p mode and play it with a shader and itll look amazing. I dont keep it in 240p cause the fricking menus are like completely unreadable. Youll also have to find a skin in the pi menus that fits a crt. You can just google this. Theres like a frickin thousand to pick from in the menu. Totally cool. Id say just get a pi 3 like that other anon suggested or get a pi 4. Which has a bit more power. I mean i tested a couple psp games. It frickin played china town wars and a couple other games. But i ended up frickin up the controls somehow. Idr how and it wouldnt be fixed without reinstalling ppsspp. Which is super simple. I was just being lazy and didnt care cause they work better on my pc anyways. I wanted to see if they could play it rather than wanted to play em. I got the pi 4 4gb model. Not even the best one.
It can also run doom through a old version of prboom and its kind of a b***h to set up fun controls. Its weird it doesnt work like pc pr boom. Anyways. Off track.
Yeah the raspberry pi knocks ps1 outta of the park and you can put on the ps1 bios logo on start up just like the good ole days. It claims it bugs out some games but ive never seen it
5 months ago
Anonymous
The menus aren't that bad in 240p, emulationstation looks fine and retroarch itself has a 240p-friendly skin. 480i is rubbish I'd never use it if 240p is an option
The thing is now a dumpster PC or 150 dollar 4 watt mini-pc can do PS1 perfectly, the PS1 can be soft-modded or fitted with an ODDE, the Mister PS1 core works great and every android device new enough to still have a functional battery is a fine option on the go. I would have loved decent to good PS1 emulation on my wii 15 years ago but so many better options are available now.
a wii is still cheaper and easier to get than these options though
5 months ago
Anonymous
where the frick do you live that a wii is "cheaper and easier" to get than a generic android device? If youre relying on a 2nd hand store in the middle of Bulgaria for all your hardware how are you even posting
5 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe pre-covid but now when zoomers are adults and 7th gen nostalgia is happening? I doubt that Wiis are dirt cheap like they used to be.
>RPi 3 is fast enough to run any PS1 game at full speed
i couldn't even get my rpi3b+ to run SNES games without audio crackling with snes9x without resorting to the 2005 version
5 months ago
Anonymous
Dont get memed, Raspberrys are trash, also Snes and N64 need lots of horsepower to emulate well cause their emulation is bloated.
Frick you dude. Wii can run gamecube, all 16 bit things to perfection, N64 classics, and house of dead. The thing is a fricking beast. No pc-to-crt lag or overheating android chink shit is going to change that.
you meant it couldn't, what happened is that people got discouraged by the frick ups to the emulation scene during the early 2010s, around the release of the wii mini, Nintendo allegedly pulled a bottlenecked firmware that damage many emulator apps with random DSi attacks making them crash constantly, but also made it so that you could not use a Wii with any other firmware, its hard to explain, but that was the gist, that also discouraged lots of developers outside of the main 3 classic consoles to continue working, until late 2019 when they came back and started working on emulators again, on top of that, most apps were not optimized to work with Wii Motion Plus, hence why lots of them seemed to just freeze at startup, which gave people the wrong impression anyways.
On the PSX side of things, it was worthless in the past with WIISX, WIISXR WIISX Silver and the old WIISXRX, they could barely run games because it wasn't optimized for the Wii's Memory RAM and GPU, not to mention using outdated recompilers and bad code, then in 2022 someone started to thinker with WIISXRX and fixed some code to fix errors and introduced CDDA and XA audio, and starting making very simple games to work, but even so it crashed due to bad memory leaks and bad code, then around last year, WIISX was revived with the new lightrec and slowly things changed.
Wii has better composite out than the Pi, Wiis are also cheaper (you likely have one already)
I dont take your word as gospel truth and i heard that composite on Pi and even Mister are not quite good, also they are expensive, Wii's are (at least for now) cheap, plus you have native GCN and Wii support, being able to play NES, GENESIS, GB/GBC/GBA and now PSX even is very welcome, SNES emulation is a bit on the average side, since SA-1 and SFX stutter depending on the fork of SNES9X you are using.
You're pirating. You've chosen the worst console to pirate from. Why are you writing words in caps? >Scant, wiibros, moronic acronyms nobody's heard of
A lot of advantages to being a developer in the wii emulation scene, with even more incentive to continue to develop. And boy are we going to talk about that.
But you already know that.
What you don't know is that the SD card slots can become damaged on the wii. You won't know what hit you.
If you want 240p and other neat features, go here https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
Later a new Wiistation build will be made that incorporates latest updates and fixed CHD compatibility, however, WiiSX has Unai which renders games faster and with less memory RAM and using the CPU instead, but WiiSX lacks all the video features Wiistation has, so if you dont mind playing in blurry bilinear at 480i, go nuts.
If you want 240p and other neat features, go here https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
Later a new Wiistation build will be made that incorporates latest updates and fixed CHD compatibility, however, WiiSX has Unai which renders games faster and with less memory RAM and using the CPU instead, but WiiSX lacks all the video features Wiistation has, so if you dont mind playing in blurry bilinear at 480i, go nuts.
Oh, you might as well look for the PSP Bios and rename it as the regular PSX Bios and stick to that, allegedly, it aids a little on the speed, since its the BIOS used by Sony on PS1 emulation on PSP
Is wii any good at emulating lightgun games? Personally I can see that being one of the main draws since it already has the motion controls. I'm just curious if that works well.
Also since the games are rendered at 480p, that means no 240p sadly, even worse, no button remapping, so B & A are B & A on the classic controller, making games like Mario 64 and OoT a pain to play
I had an wii64 emu with full button remapping. Don't know where are what it is. It was on the new homebrew channel . Go to their discord if you want it. I don't talk on those things.
Supposedly its optimal, but the VC injection mods dont run other games well, because every single VC game had its own dedicated emulator, made for that specific game only, because apparently the originals relied on speedhacks for certain titles.
Simple64 or ares. Ignore the other suggestions, they're outdated. If you can't run those emulators (ares is harder to run than simple64 btw, and isnt quite as compatible yet but will be better in the long run), then at a push use PJ64 with GlideN64, but that's significantly less accurate.
Project64 shouldn't be used for anything but very specific edge cases like getting the Game Boy Tower to work in the Pokemon Stadium games, as it's the only emulator that can get that to work at the moment. Outside that niche, it's not even as good as Mupen64Plus, especially the nightly versions, which are buggy as frick.
Decent N64 emulation requires extraordinary horsepower which the Wii just doesn't have. Emulation on PC really wasn't that much better untill within about the last 6 or 7 years.
Yeah its true, WiiSX has better performance but the devs are autistic about "making it work first" then presentation, even the devs of its fork, Wiistation was like that, but one dude calles Jokippo said "frick it" and work on those features himself in its own builds and eventually those got added to the main Wiistation, or rather, there hasnt been a true "Wiistation v2.5" but several subbuilds instead of v2.4, and i do mean, OVER 24.
Actually, i tested both Tekken 3 and DOA on WiiSX and then on Wiistation and the latter actually runs them a bit better, framerate still not smooth fluid, you get frame skipping/stutter on both apps, but Wiistation actually runs them a bit better because of the Interlaced option for games render at 480i, making them faster, WiiSX doesnt seem to have that integrated yet, so it runs them a bit more chuggy.
Kind of off-topic, but whad do you think of the Xbox 360 as a emulator machine? From my experience, it's pretty good when it comes to emulate the NES, the SNES and the GB/GBC, but I'm not sure about other systems.
Heard nothing but good things up to a point, but the reality of it is, that was about 10-15 years ago, right. So you'll probably want to try to emulate newer devices, because it's possible, so consider that.
Might be worse than the wii as a homebrew emulation device cause of lack of interest and no 240p support it’s arguably worse at ps1 emulation then the wii is but it might be better for officially licensed rereleases or collections
The ps3 is probably going to be better than it overall even plays most psp games
For example check symphony filter on wiistation vs 360 8 mins into mutas video
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The 360 just doesn’t have as much interest emulation wise as the wii and the Wii supports natively outputting the same resolutions as the ps1 so you could play on crts without upscaling or latency
There's only about 3-4 years left before it stops making financial sense to get a Wii, even if you only need the accessories. The Pi 5 can play anything the Wii can and output composite, it's just massively fricking overpriced
decent to good is shit emulation. a $50 chinkheld can do excellent to perfect ps1 emulation. your wii is shit and both of you (yourself and the wii) are fricking gay.
hey gaygit, the ps1 port of mvc1 sucks anyways but it runs it well, but you can play the actual mvc1 on fbAlpha on Retroarch on Wii (not that the whole RA port is great tough, it only works when it feel like it), but all the sfa on ps1 run buttery smooth on Wiistation, i am playing Alpha 3 right now.
From what i heard, audio still kinda innacurate, certain games are missing channel intruments anf there's tiny crackles in it, or is it jist your capture?
5 months ago
Anonymous
That was fixed with a newer update, see Vandal Hearts being reported on the GBAtemp thread. What I wonder is how well WiiSX Beta 4.1 runs, can't test it myself atm and there's just no footage of it on YouTube.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I am doing a recording of it right now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I finished capturing the footage, now uploading it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That was fixed with a newer update, see Vandal Hearts being reported on the GBAtemp thread. What I wonder is how well WiiSX Beta 4.1 runs, can't test it myself atm and there's just no footage of it on YouTube.
Ok hete it is. A test of WiiSX, granted i only used tge same few games as before because my pendrive is filled.
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Most of the framerate stutter is my capturecard which also causes audio stutters and youtube not allowing 60fps at 480p.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like WiiSX sucks
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks bruh, looks pretty good. I was mostly curious to see if Unai helped improve performance, which is meant to be faster/more performant and WiiStation currently doesn't use, even if the latter has support for 240p and interlaced mode. Does Bloody Roar 2 run better or worse than Tekken 3 right now?
decent to good is shit emulation. a $50 chinkheld can do excellent to perfect ps1 emulation. your wii is shit and both of you (yourself and the wii) are fricking gay.
>a $50 chinkheld can do excellent to perfect ps1 emulation
Your $50 chinkheld is using the same base emulator as WiiSX right now, you monkey: PCSX-ReARMed, which, as the name points out, is intended to run fast even on very weak ARM devices. Try out gbSP on your PC and you'll see not only it's much slower than mGBA, but also than in your cheapo chinkheld. It's all about optimization, nothing to do with raw power.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Testing right now, Bloody Roar 1 now works almost perfect, full speed, only a very minor framerate stutter in some stage transitions.
Bloody Roar 2 now works faster then before thanks to Interlaced mode, but still not full speed, depens on the stage, between 54 to 59fps more of less, also framerate still a bit jumpy, since this title is more demanding, is unserstandable.
In the meantime i tested a newly posted build of Wiistation but sadly they broke framerate playback since now there's choppyness, stick to the one linked here for now.
If you want 240p and other neat features, go here https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
Later a new Wiistation build will be made that incorporates latest updates and fixed CHD compatibility, however, WiiSX has Unai which renders games faster and with less memory RAM and using the CPU instead, but WiiSX lacks all the video features Wiistation has, so if you dont mind playing in blurry bilinear at 480i, go nuts.
Yes it does, it works better with USB 3.0 for me, not even shitposting, but i use the Wii Mini (yes, its hackable now), because the regular Wii i have craps itself during some apps.
The better question is why are you emulating on a Wii in 2024 to begin with? A RPi or any other sub-$100 computer is a way better emulation machine nowadays, hell they can even emulate the Wii now.
Do you realize this is 2024? not 2011 anymore? DOWNLOAD WIISTATION HERE (current stable build) https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
AND TRY IT YOURSELF!, AND YES IT WORKS ON DOLPHIN TOO
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hey morons, Wiistation does 240p.
could you at the very least?, be bothered to update yourself information wise?, Wiistation now emulates at fullspeed 70-80% of its actual library, not counting some PAL versions of games and demo discs.
OK T-word person, we know its you shitting up the thread by being stupid on purpose, you are thinking on WiiSX, NOT Wiistation, you see, this might be a difficult concept to comprehend, but these are 2 different things!
no matter how many times you samegay it doesn't change facts anon, unless you're claiming there was some massive update in the past week that magically increased compatibility from 2% to 100% and added proper video mode switching
could you at the very least?, be bothered to update yourself information wise?, Wiistation now emulates at fullspeed 70-80% of its actual library, not counting some PAL versions of games and demo discs.
OK T-word person, we know its you shitting up the thread by being stupid on purpose, you are thinking on WiiSX, NOT Wiistation, you see, this might be a difficult concept to comprehend, but these are 2 different things!
Any modern PC graphics card will do progressive 15kHz output with a DP to VGA adapter and Pis literally have hats to output various 15kHz signals, like component or RGB.
>You just have to waist bug bucks on cables and a CRT that takes component and get lucky with a transcoder not made in china that MIGHT do the work >woops, didnt mentioned that part >Pee Piis are fricking expensive now >woops forgot that part too
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ffuuuuuuuck what you're talking about
5 months ago
Anonymous
DP to VGA adapter costs like 15 bucks, VGA2SCART is 25 bucks (or the specific required VGA to SCART cable is 20 bucks) and you can get straight, pure, RGB.
How is that expensive?
>Pis are expensive
a Pi 5 is 90 bucks new and the SCART output cable is 30 bucks.
Is that really expensive for a actually performant dedicated emulation solution? Does everything better than a Wii.
Stick to a Wii, but don't pretend it's not true.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>90 dollars is super cheap guys cmon!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Value is relative, it's a whole computer in this case.
buy a graphics card with a composite video output then desolder a few resistors
5 months ago
Anonymous
No good, most graphics cards with composite output used shit encoders that were hardcoded to specific modes, like 480i and can't do 240p.
5 months ago
Anonymous
that's why you desolder the resistors and hack the drivers
5 months ago
Anonymous
Source?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Here
that's why you desolder the resistors and hack the drivers
5 months ago
Anonymous
Just like all chink transcoders
5 months ago
Anonymous
anon those composite/s-video outs on old graphics cards were for displaying your desktop on a tv or projector, 640x480 was basically the minimal resolution for an os unless you forced it lower, there was no reason for these gpus to support 240p
Becoming clear that the one anon was anally savaged by a Wii at some point in the past. Probably has been shitting bricks with a little chamfer cut out of the one side for years.
Ok buddie, what do you get for being a contrarian naysayer? I invite you to actually gives us any real examples as to why you are right and we are wrong, please explain your case, there already was a guy who took the time and effort to record proof that ps1 emulation on thd wii is actually gettin there, or are you just stuck in the past?
Wasnt already mention that compatibility list was dogshit outdated? and the peoplemwho wrote it were veey stupid in their definitions of what works and wjat not?
>compatibility list was dogshit outdated
now that's a cope, if there's no compatibility list then on what grounds do you claim psx emulation is "perfect"?
Ok, listen, i veen following Wiistation development, hang on therex pay attention, we are talking about Wiistation, NOT WiiSX, ever since september 2022, more then a year ago, cause i wanted to play SotN badly on a CRT, this title wasnt not playable up until the middle of May during lightrec's updates, then when 240p got introduced, i been testing lots of games and i think i tested around 100 of em, and only a third of them didnt worked properly, too slow or just crashed.
I can vouch for SotN (Jap version with English patch). 200.6% it without a single issue (240p@60fps). People are reporting that actual 3d games can't keep a steady frame rate.
>HDMI/DP-to-VGA >VGA-to-Component
Now you can play all your games with 100% accurate and full speed emulators on a CRT at 240p with lower latency than the Wii.
I just did, Tekken 3 in fact, frameplay is chuggy and jittery still sadly, but game itself plays at fullspeed without any slowdowns, most recent Wiistation build (toughts theres been reports on random crashups when switching games, also the first game you boot, will have framerate issues but it solves itself once you boot another title and the go back, however random crashes might happen, use the other build appointed to it instead.)
>emulate n64 on wii, something that hasn't even been good on PC until very recently
You should have just ran the wiiware versions of n64 games, numbnuts.
Bruh, why are you been a dishonest frick, there's people posting phonepics of the emulator working with games, one dude even uploaded 2 long videos showing both WiiSX (the newer one) and Wiistation working for the most part.
Be happy that another console is now playable in a mostly optimal state for a console that lets you play many other ones plus its own and its predecesor libraries.
Indeed WiiStation is now EXCELLENT.
WiiStation 3.0 was released yesterday:
https://github.com/xjsxjs197/WiiSXRX_2022/releases
Ver 3.0:
240p/Lightgun/Mouse/Multitap support.
CHD v1-v5 compressed format support.
Add Force ntsc mode.
Rewritten PCM decoding logic using the paired single instruction,
There is a slight increase in corresponding speed.
Imported the latest SPU, GPU, BIOS, Cdrom and other modules from PCSX ReARMed.
Add separate save function, each game can save its own settings.
Add old dynamic compilation core, For games where the Lightrec core cannot run,
you can try the old dynamic compilation core.
Many other minor corrections.
It seems that libchdr was not updated to include Zstd support.
The PS2 gays will say Popstarter sucks, Popstarter is leagues and bounds better than Wiistation and the Wii gays say Wiistation works great. Who is right?
>Wii can now emulate Ps1 from decent to good
15 years too bloody late.
So? Whats your point?
that they're late. learn2read, gay.
in english doc
The thing is now a dumpster PC or 150 dollar 4 watt mini-pc can do PS1 perfectly, the PS1 can be soft-modded or fitted with an ODDE, the Mister PS1 core works great and every android device new enough to still have a functional battery is a fine option on the go. I would have loved decent to good PS1 emulation on my wii 15 years ago but so many better options are available now.
240p on a CRT perhaps?
Raspberry Pi can do that. And I don't mean the current overpriced version. RPi 3 is fast enough to run any PS1 game at full speed. I could get one new in a box for 35 EUR right now.
Wii has better composite out than the Pi, Wiis are also cheaper (you likely have one already)
Honestly its not even that bad. Nta i have one and i got it on 480i mode with a 240p style shader over it and it looks frickin amazing. I have ran into next to no glitches. Besides one game. Called Blade. For one level it loads in all rainbow colors and it looks frickin super crazy. All i had to do to fix it. Was save turn it off load back in and it was gone and never happened again. Ive not played through every game on my list so i cant speak for it. But these games all played amazing
Mega man 4 , metal gear solid and vr missions, lapd future cop and a few others.
Its really worth it. You can even put it in 240p mode and play it with a shader and itll look amazing. I dont keep it in 240p cause the fricking menus are like completely unreadable. Youll also have to find a skin in the pi menus that fits a crt. You can just google this. Theres like a frickin thousand to pick from in the menu. Totally cool. Id say just get a pi 3 like that other anon suggested or get a pi 4. Which has a bit more power. I mean i tested a couple psp games. It frickin played china town wars and a couple other games. But i ended up frickin up the controls somehow. Idr how and it wouldnt be fixed without reinstalling ppsspp. Which is super simple. I was just being lazy and didnt care cause they work better on my pc anyways. I wanted to see if they could play it rather than wanted to play em. I got the pi 4 4gb model. Not even the best one.
It can also run doom through a old version of prboom and its kind of a b***h to set up fun controls. Its weird it doesnt work like pc pr boom. Anyways. Off track.
Yeah the raspberry pi knocks ps1 outta of the park and you can put on the ps1 bios logo on start up just like the good ole days. It claims it bugs out some games but ive never seen it
The menus aren't that bad in 240p, emulationstation looks fine and retroarch itself has a 240p-friendly skin. 480i is rubbish I'd never use it if 240p is an option
a wii is still cheaper and easier to get than these options though
where the frick do you live that a wii is "cheaper and easier" to get than a generic android device? If youre relying on a 2nd hand store in the middle of Bulgaria for all your hardware how are you even posting
Maybe pre-covid but now when zoomers are adults and 7th gen nostalgia is happening? I doubt that Wiis are dirt cheap like they used to be.
>RPi 3 is fast enough to run any PS1 game at full speed
i couldn't even get my rpi3b+ to run SNES games without audio crackling with snes9x without resorting to the 2005 version
Dont get memed, Raspberrys are trash, also Snes and N64 need lots of horsepower to emulate well cause their emulation is bloated.
Frick you dude. Wii can run gamecube, all 16 bit things to perfection, N64 classics, and house of dead. The thing is a fricking beast. No pc-to-crt lag or overheating android chink shit is going to change that.
>all 16 bit things to perfection
It can do Sega really well but it still has small timing issues with Zelda on NES and SNES among other issues.
b***h i dont believe you.
It has nothing to do with belief.
It's not impressive. The bottom of the barrel chinkdroid from 2013 could emulate PS1 too.
emulated games from the wii shop just fine, even better than the switch
It's all because of pcsx-rearmed and lightrec. There's not anything similar for the N64
Wii U has an increased CPU speed mode to run the PlayStation emulator as well
Wii was the best option for some N64 games.
So much so that, for years, Dolphin was better than any N64 emulator for playing Snap.
Yeah but unfortunely no 240p for N64 games.
240p is less than 720 and 1080, I would never stoop so low.
That's because you have no taste anon.
It's an impressive achievement.
Is it better than popsloader on ps2?
Dunno, but i heard popsloader is hit and miss
>now
Now new now? It could for a long time so did something happen?
you meant it couldn't, what happened is that people got discouraged by the frick ups to the emulation scene during the early 2010s, around the release of the wii mini, Nintendo allegedly pulled a bottlenecked firmware that damage many emulator apps with random DSi attacks making them crash constantly, but also made it so that you could not use a Wii with any other firmware, its hard to explain, but that was the gist, that also discouraged lots of developers outside of the main 3 classic consoles to continue working, until late 2019 when they came back and started working on emulators again, on top of that, most apps were not optimized to work with Wii Motion Plus, hence why lots of them seemed to just freeze at startup, which gave people the wrong impression anyways.
On the PSX side of things, it was worthless in the past with WIISX, WIISXR WIISX Silver and the old WIISXRX, they could barely run games because it wasn't optimized for the Wii's Memory RAM and GPU, not to mention using outdated recompilers and bad code, then in 2022 someone started to thinker with WIISXRX and fixed some code to fix errors and introduced CDDA and XA audio, and starting making very simple games to work, but even so it crashed due to bad memory leaks and bad code, then around last year, WIISX was revived with the new lightrec and slowly things changed.
I dont take your word as gospel truth and i heard that composite on Pi and even Mister are not quite good, also they are expensive, Wii's are (at least for now) cheap, plus you have native GCN and Wii support, being able to play NES, GENESIS, GB/GBC/GBA and now PSX even is very welcome, SNES emulation is a bit on the average side, since SA-1 and SFX stutter depending on the fork of SNES9X you are using.
R4AR4
You're pirating. You've chosen the worst console to pirate from. Why are you writing words in caps?
>Scant, wiibros, moronic acronyms nobody's heard of
What's your problem buddy?
>You're pirating
And?
Doesn't it do most N64 games that are worth playing decently?
Has anyone gotten Shadows of the Empire to run full speed on it yet?
>Has anyone gotten Shadows of the Empire to run full speed on it yet?
No, it can't even do that.
>No, it can't even do that.
Are you sure? I can get it to run at almost full speed with the right setting *after level one* that is.
>le plugin settings
>just change them anytime!
with ps1 now you just load an ISO and be done.
>with ps1 now you just load an ISO and be done.
That is a relief since there's a few games on there that I love.
>I can get it to run at almost full speed with the right setting *after level one* that is.
You're right idiot, it's perfect.
There's no need to name-call; my comment was spot on since SotE wouldn't even run at all at any speed for a time on the Wii.
It probably could have if it had a legitimate wiiware port.
My bad i misread your post. I thought you said something else. But anyways. That woulda been cool if those old star wars games had wii ware ports.
Based, np.
>But anyways. That woulda been cool if those old star wars games had wii ware ports.
It's like Nintendo hates money half the time.
Can you read? Did you read the question?
>Has anyone gotten Shadows of the Empire to run full speed on it yet?
>Did you read the question?
No I typed it. You read like the troublemaker from earlier. Dude you got issues.
The Wii cannot emulate SotE at full speed.
A lot of advantages to being a developer in the wii emulation scene, with even more incentive to continue to develop. And boy are we going to talk about that.
But you already know that.
What you don't know is that the SD card slots can become damaged on the wii. You won't know what hit you.
>What you don't know is that the SD card slots can become damaged on the wii. You won't know what hit you.
??? Care to go into that?
are you making shit up?
Not sure about SD cards but seems like my Gamecube memory card slot A is fricked. I'll try blowing on it when I get down to moving my Wii again.
Anyone who cares about 240p has had a chipped ps1 for 10 years, anyone who doesn't doesn't emulate on a Wii.
Wii and raspoo is best poorgay combo
I have a modded wii, what do I need to get to allow the play of ps1 games?
Think it's "wiisx." Simple Google search.
If you want 240p and other neat features, go here https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
Later a new Wiistation build will be made that incorporates latest updates and fixed CHD compatibility, however, WiiSX has Unai which renders games faster and with less memory RAM and using the CPU instead, but WiiSX lacks all the video features Wiistation has, so if you dont mind playing in blurry bilinear at 480i, go nuts.
https://github.com/emukidid/pcsxgc/releases/tag/Beta_4.1
g8shw
wats the best emulator
Project 64
talking for ps1 on wii
Somebody said wiistation 2.4.
it's in this thread in a gba link.
Scroll down till you get to the GitHub link. Or just google
And the bios.
Think there is a bios on G*tH*b
Oh, you might as well look for the PSP Bios and rename it as the regular PSX Bios and stick to that, allegedly, it aids a little on the speed, since its the BIOS used by Sony on PS1 emulation on PSP
I think mine played turok and Mario and everything else didn't work.
Is wii any good at emulating lightgun games? Personally I can see that being one of the main draws since it already has the motion controls. I'm just curious if that works well.
wasn't the virtual console N64 emulator really good? maybe not for every game
Yeah, something like that. But those don't run from the SD. They are installed. Uses up system memory.
Also since the games are rendered at 480p, that means no 240p sadly, even worse, no button remapping, so B & A are B & A on the classic controller, making games like Mario 64 and OoT a pain to play
I had an wii64 emu with full button remapping. Don't know where are what it is. It was on the new homebrew channel . Go to their discord if you want it. I don't talk on those things.
Also, it was a pain in the ass
Supposedly its optimal, but the VC injection mods dont run other games well, because every single VC game had its own dedicated emulator, made for that specific game only, because apparently the originals relied on speedhacks for certain titles.
Can anything emulate an n64? I tried downloading a couple of emulators for the PC recently, and they still all worked like shit.
Project 64
Bizjawk I think
Rosalie's Mupen GUI a.k.a. RMG is pretty good for N64 emulation
Simple64 or ares. Ignore the other suggestions, they're outdated. If you can't run those emulators (ares is harder to run than simple64 btw, and isnt quite as compatible yet but will be better in the long run), then at a push use PJ64 with GlideN64, but that's significantly less accurate.
Project64 shouldn't be used for anything but very specific edge cases like getting the Game Boy Tower to work in the Pokemon Stadium games, as it's the only emulator that can get that to work at the moment. Outside that niche, it's not even as good as Mupen64Plus, especially the nightly versions, which are buggy as frick.
Decent N64 emulation requires extraordinary horsepower which the Wii just doesn't have. Emulation on PC really wasn't that much better untill within about the last 6 or 7 years.
It was tge same for PS1 in the early days.
Okay, I'll bite: what the frick does YAWDPT mean?
So WiiStation is the best PSX solution on the Wii, right? Which games if any are better on WiiStation than POPStarter?
WiiSX is technically, but Wiistation is 2nd best
Isn't WiiStation the only one to do 240p
Yeah its true, WiiSX has better performance but the devs are autistic about "making it work first" then presentation, even the devs of its fork, Wiistation was like that, but one dude calles Jokippo said "frick it" and work on those features himself in its own builds and eventually those got added to the main Wiistation, or rather, there hasnt been a true "Wiistation v2.5" but several subbuilds instead of v2.4, and i do mean, OVER 24.
hows compatibiloty on wii for ps1
Actually, i tested both Tekken 3 and DOA on WiiSX and then on Wiistation and the latter actually runs them a bit better, framerate still not smooth fluid, you get frame skipping/stutter on both apps, but Wiistation actually runs them a bit better because of the Interlaced option for games render at 480i, making them faster, WiiSX doesnt seem to have that integrated yet, so it runs them a bit more chuggy.
Interested
bump because I need to know.
Sounds like you have both platforms. Seems like a great opportunity for you to do it yourself.
Kind of off-topic, but whad do you think of the Xbox 360 as a emulator machine? From my experience, it's pretty good when it comes to emulate the NES, the SNES and the GB/GBC, but I'm not sure about other systems.
Heard nothing but good things up to a point, but the reality of it is, that was about 10-15 years ago, right. So you'll probably want to try to emulate newer devices, because it's possible, so consider that.
Might be worse than the wii as a homebrew emulation device cause of lack of interest and no 240p support it’s arguably worse at ps1 emulation then the wii is but it might be better for officially licensed rereleases or collections
The ps3 is probably going to be better than it overall even plays most psp games
How would the 360 be worse in emulating PS1?
For example check symphony filter on wiistation vs 360 8 mins into mutas video
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The 360 just doesn’t have as much interest emulation wise as the wii and the Wii supports natively outputting the same resolutions as the ps1 so you could play on crts without upscaling or latency
*syphon filter
Sorry I was phone posting
As long as i can play SotN on the wii i am fine.
I love the new update on the emulator but damn, Dawn Of Sorrow and Portrait Of Ruin are miles ahead of SotN.
There's only about 3-4 years left before it stops making financial sense to get a Wii, even if you only need the accessories. The Pi 5 can play anything the Wii can and output composite, it's just massively fricking overpriced
The Pi 5 can't output composite out of the box. You need to solder something.
It can do Saturn, psp also. Shame about the solder requirement though.
because psx is a simple game console while n64 is a gift from god
>decent to good
in other words it cant emulate ps1
Yes it can, you think you are so fricking funny?
decent to good is shit emulation. a $50 chinkheld can do excellent to perfect ps1 emulation. your wii is shit and both of you (yourself and the wii) are fricking gay.
Does the $50 chinkheld output 240p to a CRT
of course it doesnt
That's a bold thing to claim because I beat ocarina of time on the wii
PS1 emus on the Wii sure didn't play any marvel vs Capcom or street fighter alpha's.
Probably why people say pay:
To avoid the hassle.
hey gaygit, the ps1 port of mvc1 sucks anyways but it runs it well, but you can play the actual mvc1 on fbAlpha on Retroarch on Wii (not that the whole RA port is great tough, it only works when it feel like it), but all the sfa on ps1 run buttery smooth on Wiistation, i am playing Alpha 3 right now.
look, actual console capture.
https://files.catbox.moe/pttm22.mkv
upload it to youtube mate I don't live in the US so catbox is giving me 250 kilobytes per second
ok.
The uneven framerate is OBS and my capture card.
From what i heard, audio still kinda innacurate, certain games are missing channel intruments anf there's tiny crackles in it, or is it jist your capture?
That was fixed with a newer update, see Vandal Hearts being reported on the GBAtemp thread. What I wonder is how well WiiSX Beta 4.1 runs, can't test it myself atm and there's just no footage of it on YouTube.
I am doing a recording of it right now.
I finished capturing the footage, now uploading it.
Ok hete it is. A test of WiiSX, granted i only used tge same few games as before because my pendrive is filled.
?feature=shared
Most of the framerate stutter is my capturecard which also causes audio stutters and youtube not allowing 60fps at 480p.
Looks like WiiSX sucks
Thanks bruh, looks pretty good. I was mostly curious to see if Unai helped improve performance, which is meant to be faster/more performant and WiiStation currently doesn't use, even if the latter has support for 240p and interlaced mode. Does Bloody Roar 2 run better or worse than Tekken 3 right now?
>a $50 chinkheld can do excellent to perfect ps1 emulation
Your $50 chinkheld is using the same base emulator as WiiSX right now, you monkey: PCSX-ReARMed, which, as the name points out, is intended to run fast even on very weak ARM devices. Try out gbSP on your PC and you'll see not only it's much slower than mGBA, but also than in your cheapo chinkheld. It's all about optimization, nothing to do with raw power.
Testing right now, Bloody Roar 1 now works almost perfect, full speed, only a very minor framerate stutter in some stage transitions.
Bloody Roar 2 now works faster then before thanks to Interlaced mode, but still not full speed, depens on the stage, between 54 to 59fps more of less, also framerate still a bit jumpy, since this title is more demanding, is unserstandable.
Testing Oddworld atm.
Oddworld Odyssey works fine.
"Look! I'm doing it! Mine works!"
It's a pain in the ass. Buy a fricking PlayStation.
>proof of a drag and drop emulator working
>apparently it's a pain in the ass
Buygay cope
Why are you been a douche?
Because my SD card is broken, d*rn it.
It is a pain in the n*ck.
Have never emulated mvc on ps Wii, or retro arch - nothing.
When retroarchWii works, there's no problem. When it doesn't, it doesn't.
No one's problem but mine
You did a fine job capturing video.
Glad you enjoy the Wii.
The whole slot is broken, not the card. Just ignore.
bump
How well does runahead work on the various wii retroarch cores? Is CPS2 doable?
mvc works fine so yeah
are you sure you have runahead turned on?
yes
https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/WiiStation_Compatibility_List
Bruh, that list is outdated, is just the old WiiSXRX (pre 2022) copy pasted with some minor changes.
has there been improvements? or you're just stating it's a step up from n64 emu
Look at these videos
i did but really i just wanna play oddworld
Ill test that one tomorrow if thread doesnt get baleted or purged saged.
What other titles do you suggest for testing.
In the meantime i tested a newly posted build of Wiistation but sadly they broke framerate playback since now there's choppyness, stick to the one linked here for now.
Will it run PS1 emulation from a USB.
Yes it does, it works better with USB 3.0 for me, not even shitposting, but i use the Wii Mini (yes, its hackable now), because the regular Wii i have craps itself during some apps.
The better question is why are you emulating on a Wii in 2024 to begin with? A RPi or any other sub-$100 computer is a way better emulation machine nowadays, hell they can even emulate the Wii now.
I still have one
anon the compatibility is like <2% of the library and even those play like ass
also 480i only
>480i only
Do you realize this is 2024? not 2011 anymore? DOWNLOAD WIISTATION HERE (current stable build) https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiistation-another-fork-of-wiisxrx-released.614405/page-122#post-10330320
AND TRY IT YOURSELF!, AND YES IT WORKS ON DOLPHIN TOO
no matter how many times you samegay it doesn't change facts anon, unless you're claiming there was some massive update in the past week that magically increased compatibility from 2% to 100% and added proper video mode switching
could you at the very least?, be bothered to update yourself information wise?, Wiistation now emulates at fullspeed 70-80% of its actual library, not counting some PAL versions of games and demo discs.
"Why are you even paying for eggs in 2024?
Get a hen: free eggs!"
Why are you even paying for clothes in 2024? Get a sheep: free wool!
Why are you even paying for milk in 2024? Get a cow, free milk!
You can have all the eggs, clothes, and milk you want!"
Why would you use a Wii as a emulation box anyways?
Cheap, looks good, easy 240p
>easy 240p
Except for Wiistation where the dev specifically stated that he refuses to support 240p
OK T-word person, we know its you shitting up the thread by being stupid on purpose, you are thinking on WiiSX, NOT Wiistation, you see, this might be a difficult concept to comprehend, but these are 2 different things!
Cheap and easy mean nothing if the end result is suboptimal and a lackluster experience.
Also you could get 240p from a PC too, even a Pi 5.
>Also you could get 240p from a PC too, even a Pi 5
Any modern PC graphics card will do progressive 15kHz output with a DP to VGA adapter and Pis literally have hats to output various 15kHz signals, like component or RGB.
>You just have to waist bug bucks on cables and a CRT that takes component and get lucky with a transcoder not made in china that MIGHT do the work
>woops, didnt mentioned that part
>Pee Piis are fricking expensive now
>woops forgot that part too
Ffuuuuuuuck what you're talking about
DP to VGA adapter costs like 15 bucks, VGA2SCART is 25 bucks (or the specific required VGA to SCART cable is 20 bucks) and you can get straight, pure, RGB.
How is that expensive?
>Pis are expensive
a Pi 5 is 90 bucks new and the SCART output cable is 30 bucks.
Is that really expensive for a actually performant dedicated emulation solution? Does everything better than a Wii.
Stick to a Wii, but don't pretend it's not true.
>90 dollars is super cheap guys cmon!
Value is relative, it's a whole computer in this case.
Ok so what's the short version to get 240p composite from my PC
buy a graphics card with a composite video output then desolder a few resistors
No good, most graphics cards with composite output used shit encoders that were hardcoded to specific modes, like 480i and can't do 240p.
that's why you desolder the resistors and hack the drivers
Source?
Here
Just like all chink transcoders
anon those composite/s-video outs on old graphics cards were for displaying your desktop on a tv or projector, 640x480 was basically the minimal resolution for an os unless you forced it lower, there was no reason for these gpus to support 240p
God, what a disgustingly unfunny show.
Zoom mothafricka, ZOOOOM
If that emulator doesn't work running from a USB on Wii, forget it.
what are you trying to accomplish other then being sick?
hey morons, Wiistation does 240p.
No sick message was sent. Answer the question, prick.
Becoming clear that the one anon was anally savaged by a Wii at some point in the past. Probably has been shitting bricks with a little chamfer cut out of the one side for years.
>>The Wii can now emulate Ps1 from decent to good
*extremely poorly to very poorly
Ok buddie, what do you get for being a contrarian naysayer? I invite you to actually gives us any real examples as to why you are right and we are wrong, please explain your case, there already was a guy who took the time and effort to record proof that ps1 emulation on thd wii is actually gettin there, or are you just stuck in the past?
>contrarian
The compatibility list would say otherwise.
Wasnt already mention that compatibility list was dogshit outdated? and the peoplemwho wrote it were veey stupid in their definitions of what works and wjat not?
>compatibility list was dogshit outdated
now that's a cope, if there's no compatibility list then on what grounds do you claim psx emulation is "perfect"?
I tried a game and it booted
Ok, listen, i veen following Wiistation development, hang on therex pay attention, we are talking about Wiistation, NOT WiiSX, ever since september 2022, more then a year ago, cause i wanted to play SotN badly on a CRT, this title wasnt not playable up until the middle of May during lightrec's updates, then when 240p got introduced, i been testing lots of games and i think i tested around 100 of em, and only a third of them didnt worked properly, too slow or just crashed.
Are you just mad that N64 emulation is the one thats still shit outside of the 18 or so titles on virtual console?
>N64
The N64 only has like 2 games worth playing and we've all already played them.
I can vouch for SotN (Jap version with English patch). 200.6% it without a single issue (240p@60fps). People are reporting that actual 3d games can't keep a steady frame rate.
>People are reporting that actual 3d games can't keep a steady frame rate.
Thosw are 60fps games, 30 fps games work fine now, most of them
>HDMI/DP-to-VGA
>VGA-to-Component
Now you can play all your games with 100% accurate and full speed emulators on a CRT at 240p with lower latency than the Wii.
Are you sure it does 240p and not 480i
Not anon but modern GPUs can't even do interlaced modes, so yes, only 240p, no 480i.
why do we have so many shitters who think they are a certain type of human being of an chromosome which letter isnt Y?
PS1 games use 480i too moron.
Try plsy tekken there
I just did, Tekken 3 in fact, frameplay is chuggy and jittery still sadly, but game itself plays at fullspeed without any slowdowns, most recent Wiistation build (toughts theres been reports on random crashups when switching games, also the first game you boot, will have framerate issues but it solves itself once you boot another title and the go back, however random crashes might happen, use the other build appointed to it instead.)
>emulate n64 on wii, something that hasn't even been good on PC until very recently
You should have just ran the wiiware versions of n64 games, numbnuts.
No 240p support that way
it's just crazy that you can emulate the switch on the wii what was nintendo thinking making the perfect game console
You think you are so fricking funny?
just played symphony of the night with wiisx
then played it with popstarter in ps2
wii's ps1 emulation is awful
Hey, are you shitposting on porpusse? Wiistation rums it fine, NOT WIISX, WIIstation.
Wiistation v3.0 was released a couple of hours ago. https://github.com/xjsxjs197/WiiSXRX_2022/releases
The PS1 is a much simpler console to emulate than the N64.
Then why ps1 emulation on wii was so bad for so long?
Not enough interest and no developers?
Anybody have a working copy of truxton 1 or truxton 2 for mame Wii.
Send link
It works so far
Wiistation 3
Bruh, disable bilinear and the trap filters and play at 240p.
Can't select bios through USB in wiistation
Yes you can, did you actually set the correct bios properly?
Bro why are you doing this?
Street fighter alpha would not load in wiistation but would load in wiisx. Just saying.
Pain in the buttox.
Not so good as you thought
Scratch that. Got it working.
Bruh, why are you been a dishonest frick, there's people posting phonepics of the emulator working with games, one dude even uploaded 2 long videos showing both WiiSX (the newer one) and Wiistation working for the most part.
Be happy that another console is now playable in a mostly optimal state for a console that lets you play many other ones plus its own and its predecesor libraries.
I said I got it working.
I'm wasn't being dishonest, I was being honest.
Truxton isn't on the PlayStation
Cool, I've never played PS1, what titles are essential? Any good co-op? Glad to see the Wii still going strong.
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Final Fantasy VII
Chocobo Dungeon
Xenogears
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Thx, tripgay-sama, but I asked for games. Most of those are jrpgs.
Anyone tried the Resident Evil games? Do they run okay on this?
Yes, you cam even play the lightgun one with a ligjtgun.
Indeed WiiStation is now EXCELLENT.
WiiStation 3.0 was released yesterday:
https://github.com/xjsxjs197/WiiSXRX_2022/releases
Ver 3.0:
240p/Lightgun/Mouse/Multitap support.
CHD v1-v5 compressed format support.
Add Force ntsc mode.
Rewritten PCM decoding logic using the paired single instruction,
There is a slight increase in corresponding speed.
Imported the latest SPU, GPU, BIOS, Cdrom and other modules from PCSX ReARMed.
Add separate save function, each game can save its own settings.
Add old dynamic compilation core, For games where the Lightrec core cannot run,
you can try the old dynamic compilation core.
Many other minor corrections.
It seems that libchdr was not updated to include Zstd support.
Yeah sure but i heard that there's sound issues and random crashes, so great you guys.....
Why are you so fricking butthurt ESL anon? Would almost feel sorry for you if you weren't so fricking annoying.
The PS2 gays will say Popstarter sucks, Popstarter is leagues and bounds better than Wiistation and the Wii gays say Wiistation works great. Who is right?
Both. Emulation will always have some kind of issue, whichever the platform. If you're lucky to have a working PS1, you should use that.
it is STILL piracy. You have to pay for the game if you do not own a copy. California is corrupt. Piracy is wrong.
Does SF EX Plus 2 still crash?
why is op so intent on shilling this? he keeps remaking this thread and constantly samegays with his obvious "style" of posting
it's not good
This threads just come and go.
I can confirm that Grandia does boot.
shit thread