There are different kinds of gatekeeping, some are good and some aren’t.
If someone asks if you have any tips to get past a part that they find difficult and you just shit on them, you’re not “bravely keeping casuals from ruining the game”, you’re just a dick. If you want to be a duck then fine, but don’t act like you’re anything but. The person in this instance wants to overcome the challenges of the game, they don’t want the game to change to cater to them. The type of gatekeeping you should do is against people who DO want to change the game.
It’s the same as the difference between making fun of a fat guy who wants to “normalize obesity” compared to making fun of a fat guy who’s trying to lose weight.
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are you seriously gatekeeping gatekeeping
Epic response.
yes he is, because good gatekeeping is important if you want longevity to a thing without getting flooded by fricking secondaries or worse.
Are you seriously criticising criticism?
Yeah sounds pretty stupid when you put it like that
also he's not even gatekeeping lmao
Why do you care so much?
>no argument
Just fricking play the videogames and shut the frick up
frick off, Black person
Doesn’t apply, 0 argument.
BASED OP BTFO.
Not really, as I said there’s good gatekeeping. Not feeling super BTFO’d to be honest.
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Still no argument.
You won't get one, frick off troon.
Concession heartily accepted.
>gate keeping moron can't even articulate his argument and resorts to buzzwords
Pretty much, if a gate of skill or expectation of competence kept you out then it's not anybody's fault nor responsibility you didn't meet it.
>it's not anybody's fault nor responsibility
Point to anything I said that implies it’s someone else’s fault or responsibility if someone is struggling with a part of a game.
Based
>someone that is looking for exploits or secrets to make the game easy is not a casual
Of course they are, some guy wanting to play with the drake sword or look up the easiest way to accomplish something is absolutely a casual and ruins communities, if they can't be bothered to figure things out by themselves or simply practice to get better is someone who is shit at games and possibly just moronic.
How is hanging out with the mentally disabled a good thing?
If you need to change my words to make an argument, why are you arguing to begin with?
What tips can someone give you that you can't figure out yourself by simply playing the game, learning from your mistakes and getting better? Nothing.
So all that is left is things like how to get the Drake sword or other balance breaking things.
What does it matter to you if they spend the time to learn everything or not? You can say something as simple as “try playing defensively” or nothing at all if you want. Either way, you’re not keeping the game from changing by shutting in this person, which is the whole point of the OP post.
>The person in this instance wants to overcome the challenges of the game
no they don't, they are a fricking casual who is asking people for an easy way out or the optimal strategy, not using their own brain or skills to try and figure out a solution, they just want to utilize the work someone else already did. Frick all casuals.
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Stop seeing your video game accomplishments as real accomplishments.
this thread is the reason why you should always gatekeep videogames and tell people to git gud and kys every time they ask for help
>If someone asks if you have any tips to get past a part that they find difficult and you just shit on them, you’re not “bravely keeping casuals from ruining the game”
no, that's exactly what you're doing, and you should be applauded for it.
>The person in this instance wants to overcome the challenges of the game
if they're asking for help they don't want to overcome the challenge, they want to bypass it.
>It’s the same as the difference between making fun of a fat guy who wants to “normalize obesity” compared to making fun of a fat guy who’s trying to lose weight.
more like a fat guy who's trying his damnedest to find french fries that are healthy instead of just eating his fricking salad.
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Imagine if “gatekeeping” in any other skill in the world was like video games:
>someone tries to learn piano
>“can someone tell me how to hold my hands so they don’t cramp up?”
>“LOOOOL look at this CASUL!! Figure it out yourself homosexual!!”
Sound moronic? That’s because it is, and so are you if you do it. Go on, try out your mental gymnastics to explain how this is “totally different”
if you honestly need help in figuring out how to not frick up your own hands then you deserve to be laughed at, yes.
also even if your analogy was functional, the music industry is still flooded with talentless c**ts who can barely play their instruments. so yes, gatekeeping would absolutely be a good thing there as well.
> also even if your analogy was functional
Thought you could sneak that one by, huh? You didn’t prove that it’s not functional in the least.
Concession accepted.
why did you ignore his post?
I didn’t, I referred him to a post I already made which destroyed his argument. Try to keep up.
>can't refute a post
reddit space
>decides to ignore it instead while screaming for the entire world that you won the argument
reddit space
that's why people gatekeep you
reddit space
lol
>resorting to redditposting
Yep, that’s a concession accepted.
>You didn’t prove that it’s not functional in the least.
>>if you honestly need help in figuring out how to not frick up your own hands then you deserve to be laughed at, yes.
there you go.
I play piano and I have never gotten a hand cramp unless I did something intentionally stupid like stretching my hand out as far as possible to play a major 10th, or played for like three hours straight. Plus I have a condition that makes my muscles prone to cramping. In both cases the problem is solved by stretching beforehand, doing some strength-building exercise, and not being a complete goddamn moron. If someone can't figure out "hmm my hand is getting sore after banging on keys for an hour, guess I should stop" then mockery is an appropriate response. Because the only useful advice to someone like that is "keep practicing", which is exactly the sort of thing homosexuals who can't git gud don't want to hear. They don't want to deal with the challenge before them, they don't want the experience of failing again and again before they learn to beat it, they just want a secret code that will let them pass.
That’s a lot of coping you just typed out, lol. Maybe you’re enough of a homosexual to shout “CASUL” at someone starting out on piano, and if so, holy shit dude, but outside of gaming most people are more mature than that, haha.
Seethe more. Maybe next time don't use an analogy when you don't know what the frick you're talking about on either side of that analogy. You don't have any fricking arguments outside of "let me invent a bullshit scenario where I make the gatekeeper look totally angry and unreasonable". You can't express 'why' gatekeeping is bad, you can only make up this strawman bully and whine about things that never happened.
Didn’t read, haha. Come back when you have even the slightest refutation of my PERFECT analogy (which I will now use regularly as a copypasta because of how BEAUTIFUL it is and how well it gets you gays MALDING), haha.
>if you honestly need help in figuring out how to not frick up your own hands then you deserve to be laughed at, yes.
Ask how I know you’ve never learned to play an instrument.
Explain to me how the frick you are going to get a hand cramp on piano that's not either stretching your hand out to do some bullshit interval instead of rolling it, or playing for ages in a shit position and ignoring the strain on your hands like a moron. Because I figured out how to do it right while being literally disabled.
>being mad
Looks like I hit the nail on the head, haha.
Again: please explain to me how the frick you get a hand cramp learning piano that is not the result of you being a total fricking moron.
>being mad
Looks like I hit the nail on the head, haha.
>playing videogames and piano are the same thing
Yeah, that does sound moronic.
>what is an analogy
You’re right though, gaming skill is far less important, which is why it’s funny that you would hate keep it harder than musicians gatekeep their skill.
Concession accepted.
God DAMN I’m destroying you gays left and RIGHT.
God DAMN I can’t STOP WINNING. Feels good to be a CHAD who treats newbies with kindness, haha.
>If you want to be a duck then fine, but don’t act like you’re anything but.
This is what my dad said to me before I got disowned.
>"g-guys I was only pretending to be moronic trust me"
when you slit your wrists remember to make the cuts lengthwise, not just across.
>so scared he stopped replying
Haha
What about people who are good at the game and yet want to change it regardless?
I’ve beaten every dark souls, demon’s souls, sekiro and bloodborne (several times some of them) and I’m pretty good at them if I say so myself. Mostly because I’ve been playing action games all my life. And yet I 100% think most of them do need an easy and that if they got it it would be nothing but good.
Why?
The trick to not being gatekept is to realize the gate was never real, no matter how much some people want it to be.