>Well that depends. Will the synth let me frick her extremely realistically modelled butthole afterwards? If so, yes, I suppose I would save her. But only for that reason, you understand?
more like the robots have a sense of self, they are sentient, therefore they are alive. they are sapient, therefore they are people.
not humans but people.
anyway shit thread about shit game with a lot quality OP, technically against the rules but if the "quality" rule was enforced 95% of all threads would need to be pruned.
You can romance, but not marry. It gives you wedding rings, it shows you a wedding, as if it's introducing it is a possibility, but doesn't allow you to marry. Maybe they just cut it.
Synths are basically human beings with a microchip in the brain. The game try to play the robot card to soften our hearts, but ultimately, they are as worthless as any of these homosexual settlers who infest the neighborhood.
Synths are the robotic equivalent of blackfaces. Biological humans complaining about being "oppressed robots" while actual robots are deemed unworthy of salvation because "too primitive"
Absolutely disgusting
>He didn't understand the plot of Fallout fricking 4
Gen 1 and 2 synths are robots. Gen 3 synths are biologically identical to humans, but grown in a lab from Shaun's DNA through science fiction magic.
didn't she originally say "die to save a synth?" i remember thinking "no, i wouldn't die to save a human either frickhead". and then immediately killing them all to prove it.
Black person I wouldn't put myself in danger to save a normal person. Its supposed to be the fricking post apocalypse we don't have stable leadership or infrastructure and people are still murdering butchering and raping each other in the streets over cans of 200 year old baked beans or just for shits and giggles. Why the frick would anyone give a shit about robot rights, what moronic neanderthal homosexual wrote this pile of shit game.
This is the core of the problem with the Railroad; out of all the shit that is going on in the Commonwealth, they choose to liberate lab-grown people.
The Railroad just doesn't feel as important as the other factions and would be more on-par with the Atom Cats if they weren't an endgame faction.
the railroad should've been a faction fo only escaped synths, so it would at least make some semblance of a sense.
Maybe have the "focused too much on saving synths" as their actual flaw that is discussed in-universe.
Also, how moronic is that you essentially will become the new institute leader but you have no option to tell the railroad?
It seems a no brainer to just wait until father dies (which is not too long) and when mc becomes leader he frees the synths
>make basegame where you need to twist logic and reasoning to insane lenghts to make the Railroad not look like lunatics wich are too priviliged to have real problems and fail >make DLC wich actually gives anyone any moral right to argue in favor of protecting Synths beyond "they look like humans"
How did Bethesda do it
That conversation had phenomenal writing and was the one time that made the player question the humanity of synths beyond "well they look human".
There's also the problem that synths were supposed to represent the classic "on the humanity of robots" question, the paranoia of Cold War spies, and slavery in America all at once.
The problem is that the whole faction and questlines were written as though Fallout 4 was set in a functioning level of civilization kinda like NCR stuff in New Vegas. In the actual game Diamond City feels like a squatter camp of maybe 50 people and nothing else is even worth mentioning, so everyone gets mad at the Railroad for caring about robots when the average person in the commonwealth got raped by 8 super mutants on the way to get a drink of radioactive water out of a ditch. Considering how many other stupid things in the game feel like they require a functioning city to make any sense (e.g. Triggerman "gangsters") I think the world design just got that separated from the writing.
The Commonwealth contradicts itself by simultaneously escaping most of the nuclear warfare, looking better than a lot of Detroit now, and still being a series of ruined buildings after two centuries.
>still being a series of ruined buildings after two centuries.
I think that's the settlement mechanic fault - they had so many locations that are left utterly empty.
>You would? You're the kind of person we need, welcome aboard. >You wouldn't? I respect your honesty, welcome aboard. >What do you mean, "what's a synth"? Wise guy, eh? Welcome aboard.
Railroad is the best written faction
That thing where Glory was taking care of a braindead synth tied to the Curie quest required a very un-Bethesda level of care and effort from someone to tie existing characters that may or may not be dead together just because it's more parsimonious than bringing in a new essential NPC from nowhere.
The problem is that the whole faction and questlines were written as though Fallout 4 was set in a functioning level of civilization kinda like NCR stuff in New Vegas. In the actual game Diamond City feels like a squatter camp of maybe 50 people and nothing else is even worth mentioning, so everyone gets mad at the Railroad for caring about robots when the average person in the commonwealth got raped by 8 super mutants on the way to get a drink of radioactive water out of a ditch. Considering how many other stupid things in the game feel like they require a functioning city to make any sense (e.g. Triggerman "gangsters") I think the world design just got that separated from the writing.
This really nails the problem with the setting on its head. They present the Commonwealth as a place where people are still struggling not to starve from day to day, and anyone who can grow enough of their own food to not starve is under constant threat of being robbed and/or murdered. It makes zero sense that the Railroad could have any kind of syphistocated spy network without enormous resources and infrastructure that simply doesn't exist.
>Railroad is the best written faction >The problem is that the whole faction and questlines were written as though Fallout 4 was set in a functioning level of civilization kinda like NCR stuff in New Vegas.
This is the exact reason the railroad is by far the worst written faction. No one would waste their time on "synthrights" while living in a post-apocalyptic society.
BOS is unironically the only faction that makes any logical sense.
And this is another problem; I don't have a problem with allowing the player to wipe out the Railroad on first visit, but if you do you should have been forced to eat the consequences and the main story should have ended right there without ever having found Shawn. The game tells you going in that the Railroad is the only faction capable of decoding a Courser chip, but apparently it's so easy to do that they've already written a program that does all the work for you automatically with the push of a button? Frick that contrived nonsence. You just killed your only lead on a psychopathic whim, own that shit.
No. Why would I risk my life for a fricking toaster? All toasters get smashed as my Luddite ancestors would have wanted. You gonna start giving your Roomba rights too? The only way I'd reconsider is if they could produce offspring naturally .
>Well that depends. Will the synth let me frick her extremely realistically modelled butthole afterwards? If so, yes, I suppose I would save her. But only for that reason, you understand?
There's no middle ground with this. Would you risk death to save a synth or not?
I just gave you my answer
There's no middle ground with this.
Frick the synths
Quads demand it.
Fricking the synths it is. *unzips dick*
THE ROBOTS LOOK LIKE HUMANS THERFOR THEY ARE HUMANS
more like the robots have a sense of self, they are sentient, therefore they are alive. they are sapient, therefore they are people.
not humans but people.
anyway shit thread about shit game with a lot quality OP, technically against the rules but if the "quality" rule was enforced 95% of all threads would need to be pruned.
imagine this post is a wojak quoting your entire post
based
So at best Synths are a crime against humanity and should be destroyed, while their creation should be prevented.
Define sapient in a way that makes sense in that context.
It's funny because everyone, including your synth friends AND Deacon, call Desdemona a lunatic over this.
>answer "no"
>Des says there's "no shame in that,"
You guys are literally getting worked up over nothing.
Unless it's my child or my wife, no. Why the frick can't I marry Curie? Why give the player two wedding rings if they're fricking worthless?
Can't you? I thought you could romance her if you gave her a gynoid body.
You can romance, but not marry. It gives you wedding rings, it shows you a wedding, as if it's introducing it is a possibility, but doesn't allow you to marry. Maybe they just cut it.
Curie is your child, anon.
So is Danse.
So is McDonough.
So is X688
No.
Synths are basically human beings with a microchip in the brain. The game try to play the robot card to soften our hearts, but ultimately, they are as worthless as any of these homosexual settlers who infest the neighborhood.
>Synths are basically human beings with a microchip in the brain
no they aren't
they are literally just robots
Synths are the robotic equivalent of blackfaces. Biological humans complaining about being "oppressed robots" while actual robots are deemed unworthy of salvation because "too primitive"
Absolutely disgusting
>He didn't understand the plot of Fallout fricking 4
Gen 1 and 2 synths are robots. Gen 3 synths are biologically identical to humans, but grown in a lab from Shaun's DNA through science fiction magic.
didn't she originally say "die to save a synth?" i remember thinking "no, i wouldn't die to save a human either frickhead". and then immediately killing them all to prove it.
damn you really showed them anon
Black person I wouldn't put myself in danger to save a normal person. Its supposed to be the fricking post apocalypse we don't have stable leadership or infrastructure and people are still murdering butchering and raping each other in the streets over cans of 200 year old baked beans or just for shits and giggles. Why the frick would anyone give a shit about robot rights, what moronic neanderthal homosexual wrote this pile of shit game.
This is the core of the problem with the Railroad; out of all the shit that is going on in the Commonwealth, they choose to liberate lab-grown people.
The Railroad just doesn't feel as important as the other factions and would be more on-par with the Atom Cats if they weren't an endgame faction.
the railroad should've been a faction fo only escaped synths, so it would at least make some semblance of a sense.
Maybe have the "focused too much on saving synths" as their actual flaw that is discussed in-universe.
Also, how moronic is that you essentially will become the new institute leader but you have no option to tell the railroad?
It seems a no brainer to just wait until father dies (which is not too long) and when mc becomes leader he frees the synths
a random synth? no
but I wouldn't do that for a random human either.
I would probably take a bullet for friends and family but not for some random dude I just met. Synth or not.
>say no
>unzip gatling laser gun
Should never have come here
Can Synths even age?
Dolly the sheep aged and died, so it's fairly likely that Gen3's which are clones not robots will age and die
>Sheep
I think I found out why it died.
because it was alive?
I don't think so. Can't lose/gain weight either.
>make basegame where you need to twist logic and reasoning to insane lenghts to make the Railroad not look like lunatics wich are too priviliged to have real problems and fail
>make DLC wich actually gives anyone any moral right to argue in favor of protecting Synths beyond "they look like humans"
How did Bethesda do it
The conversation between Danse and Maxson post synth discovery does more for the Railroad than anything that faction does. It's weird.
I killed him because I'm not a homosexual liberal who cares about robots
That conversation had phenomenal writing and was the one time that made the player question the humanity of synths beyond "well they look human".
There's also the problem that synths were supposed to represent the classic "on the humanity of robots" question, the paranoia of Cold War spies, and slavery in America all at once.
The Commonwealth contradicts itself by simultaneously escaping most of the nuclear warfare, looking better than a lot of Detroit now, and still being a series of ruined buildings after two centuries.
>still being a series of ruined buildings after two centuries.
I think that's the settlement mechanic fault - they had so many locations that are left utterly empty.
There is no developer who does lighting as bad and as ugly as Bethesda.
Gen 3 synths are Uebermenschen made from Nate's son's chad DNA, of course I would.
Why are bethesda games so fricking ugly?
isn't player's character a synth him/her-self anyway?
lol no
>You would? You're the kind of person we need, welcome aboard.
>You wouldn't? I respect your honesty, welcome aboard.
>What do you mean, "what's a synth"? Wise guy, eh? Welcome aboard.
Railroad is the best written faction
That thing where Glory was taking care of a braindead synth tied to the Curie quest required a very un-Bethesda level of care and effort from someone to tie existing characters that may or may not be dead together just because it's more parsimonious than bringing in a new essential NPC from nowhere.
The problem is that the whole faction and questlines were written as though Fallout 4 was set in a functioning level of civilization kinda like NCR stuff in New Vegas. In the actual game Diamond City feels like a squatter camp of maybe 50 people and nothing else is even worth mentioning, so everyone gets mad at the Railroad for caring about robots when the average person in the commonwealth got raped by 8 super mutants on the way to get a drink of radioactive water out of a ditch. Considering how many other stupid things in the game feel like they require a functioning city to make any sense (e.g. Triggerman "gangsters") I think the world design just got that separated from the writing.
This really nails the problem with the setting on its head. They present the Commonwealth as a place where people are still struggling not to starve from day to day, and anyone who can grow enough of their own food to not starve is under constant threat of being robbed and/or murdered. It makes zero sense that the Railroad could have any kind of syphistocated spy network without enormous resources and infrastructure that simply doesn't exist.
>Railroad is the best written faction
>The problem is that the whole faction and questlines were written as though Fallout 4 was set in a functioning level of civilization kinda like NCR stuff in New Vegas.
This is the exact reason the railroad is by far the worst written faction. No one would waste their time on "synthrights" while living in a post-apocalyptic society.
BOS is unironically the only faction that makes any logical sense.
philosophical zombies get scrapped
Install this and play this instead
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18898/
My answer would be yes. But it would be a lie.
I wouldn't give up my life for anyone.
There's no shame in that, but you can't join our super secret club.
What makes you think anyone let her leave alive.
And this is another problem; I don't have a problem with allowing the player to wipe out the Railroad on first visit, but if you do you should have been forced to eat the consequences and the main story should have ended right there without ever having found Shawn. The game tells you going in that the Railroad is the only faction capable of decoding a Courser chip, but apparently it's so easy to do that they've already written a program that does all the work for you automatically with the push of a button? Frick that contrived nonsence. You just killed your only lead on a psychopathic whim, own that shit.
No. Why would I risk my life for a fricking toaster? All toasters get smashed as my Luddite ancestors would have wanted. You gonna start giving your Roomba rights too? The only way I'd reconsider is if they could produce offspring naturally .
(Y) Sarcastic