Basically zero. It's padding designed to stop men throwing themselves at other men in padding from getting too injured. It's a uniform first and armour a distant second.
Not much at all. Legion recruits are basically cannon fodder that fight the NCR entirely on ambushes and sheer numbers. They're the reason why lorelets think the Legion "hates guns"; they just save the few guns they have for the recruits that manage to actually survive.
The only ones who wear armor that would effectively stop bullets are the BoS and NCR heavy troopers. NCR troopers leather armor is about as effective as wearing nothing as far as bullets go
It's supposed to have a thin layer of kevlar, yes, but one of the NCR troops mentions that new recruits are being shipped out without even proper body armor anymore
It's surprising how good it looks. It's not perfect but it could've looked so shit, my confirmation bias might be talking but it feels like armor design has gone to shit with time
The Enclave bug power armor will forever be my favorite but Caesar's Legion has some pretty good visual design. If you can't appreciate this you are a pleb.
My only complaint is that the Centurions should've had a few more variations of their armor, perhaps
It's odd that it's patchwork from all their enemies they killed but it's also uniform
The simple fact that the power armor's pauldron is upright rather than parallel to the arm makes that outfit look so much better in concept art than in-game.
>How useful would football armor actually be in this setting? Like, it probably would be crap against bullets, but is it actually viable otherwise?
It helps with everything else, wild animals, small mutants,...
New Vegas Mojave context make reinforced football gear a really good choice
Could The Legion still be a thing after Edward? I always like to imagine the canon ending of New Vegas is either a Yes-Man or Mr. House route, but Ceaser stays alive. He dies, but the Legion lives on, albeit in a balkanized state. I think that would be cool, because we can see different interpenetrations and evolutions of the ideology of The Legion. Perhaps one Legion group would be more okay with using tech, or maybe one other could be "friendlier", and I don't mean they would be "more good", but just more inclined to diplomacy and intrigue.
Yes. Anyone who thinks it will die with Caesar doesn't understand how the actual Rome worked and doesn't understand the scale of the Legion described in-game. It will fracture and balkanize but it's unironically going to result in some high-tier civilizations, all of which would probably outlive the NCR.
>200 years after world ended >Old football gear still intact and abundant enough to equip large army
Bethesda fallouts are dumb. Like why people still living among ruins and junk and not trying to rebuild anything. its been two fricking CENTURIES
Take it from who? Does the legion have some kind of sixth sense where they can track down every last piece of football gear in the country no matter who took it?
Who else would have need for it in such quantities? People barely traveled around 80 years after the bombs, and that's on the West Coast; the Legion was established 35 years ago. The point of the Legion's armor is that, for recruits/grunts, it's plentiful and uniform. The armor is little more than football padding, scavenged from countless high schools and universities across the West and the Midwest. Hell it's not even meant to be that good at being armor, there's no metal until you get to the rank of Vexillary, it's literally just football padding. It might be able to stop a machete or a 9mm if you're extra lucky, but that's it. And that's literally the fricking point: you get nothing useful until you prove yourself to the Legion. If the armor fails to save you and you die, you were probably too weak to be useful anyway.
So they had tribal women make football pads that they then had somebody else modify to look like Roman armour? You know how stupid this is sounding, right?
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They had a bunch of slaves reproduce what they had reference for as they needed them, then wore red clothes and a skirt. Your assumption is as much they found a warehouse of football pads then lugged them with them with each tribe they took over.
>there's people out there that still believe the Legion only use melee weapons because "technology bad" even though most of them probably antagonize them as soon as Nipton which means they spend the entire game fighting off death squads armed with rifles
I will never get how so many people that supposedly love a game and have been playing it for a decade can get such basic facts wrong
>Sudden urge to replay OWB >Theres 40min of unskippable dialog sequence with peak cringe humor
I like location and shooting tons of lobotomites and robots. But damn that opening chore
I was thinking about what my favorite DLC was, and when I was thinking about Old World Blues, I realized it just as much a chore as Dead Money.
there's no "good part", I don't like a single quest in either of then. Both of them have tedious enemies, Old World Blues has the damage sponges that blow up in your face and have the audacity to spawn 20 ft in front of you out of thin air
>audacity to spawn 20 ft in front of you out of thin air
Jokes on you but on one of my runs game forgot to spawn enemies outside. Only scripted ones appeared. Greatness of gamebryo shines bright.
I'm on a replay too and have finally decided that I hate Dead Money >f-f-filtered
Whatever, I've done it over a dozen times now, and it's just not good
Well, Nazi Germany believed in racial supremacy and that certain races are inferior. This would be pretty impractical in the American wasteland and Caesar himself probably lacks much German blood. The Legion would allow just about anyone to join it. Plus, the Enclave already ape the National Socialists so it would feel derivative.
The Romans achieved what Hitler wanted without the racial autism that Hitler exposed. Also in the wasteland that is America in fallout racial purity is probably the last thing on anyone's mind.
I like their uniform. And if you think about it skirts are pretty practical and also very unique and distinctive. 9/10, could've had cooler helmets
How useful would football armor actually be in this setting? Like, it probably would be crap against bullets, but is it actually viable otherwise?
Basically zero. It's padding designed to stop men throwing themselves at other men in padding from getting too injured. It's a uniform first and armour a distant second.
>in this setting
Well leather armor is pretty decent in Fallout, so...
Football uniforms are not comparable to actual leather armor, not even remotely
they're reinforced
Not much at all. Legion recruits are basically cannon fodder that fight the NCR entirely on ambushes and sheer numbers. They're the reason why lorelets think the Legion "hates guns"; they just save the few guns they have for the recruits that manage to actually survive.
Most armour is crap against bullets.
The only ones who wear armor that would effectively stop bullets are the BoS and NCR heavy troopers. NCR troopers leather armor is about as effective as wearing nothing as far as bullets go
Isn't NCR armor a type of kevlar, not just leather? Or the chest piece at least.
It's supposed to have a thin layer of kevlar, yes, but one of the NCR troops mentions that new recruits are being shipped out without even proper body armor anymore
I wish skirts were more normal in western society. Like, I wish I could get a cool skirt and feel comfortable without being called gay.
Agreed.
I knew being Scots has an advantage over being Engl*sh
kilts are a victorian larp
but its a still a skirt, its a win win for me
I own a kilt but I never wear it outside of the house since I don't want to be that guy.
be the change you want to see, scotanon
maybe not necessarily skirt but something like a pantless tunic should come back to fashion
It's definitely more practical than American Civil War clothing and bathrobes
I'm not seeing it?
It's surprising how good it looks. It's not perfect but it could've looked so shit, my confirmation bias might be talking but it feels like armor design has gone to shit with time
In general or with the Fallout games?
both, but now that you mention it Fallout is one of the most egregious examples
The Enclave bug power armor will forever be my favorite but Caesar's Legion has some pretty good visual design. If you can't appreciate this you are a pleb.
My only complaint is that the Centurions should've had a few more variations of their armor, perhaps
It's odd that it's patchwork from all their enemies they killed but it's also uniform
dev time limitations
The simple fact that the power armor's pauldron is upright rather than parallel to the arm makes that outfit look so much better in concept art than in-game.
I think parallel looks better, FO3/NV PA pauldrons are extremely goofy.
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>How useful would football armor actually be in this setting? Like, it probably would be crap against bullets, but is it actually viable otherwise?
It helps with everything else, wild animals, small mutants,...
New Vegas Mojave context make reinforced football gear a really good choice
THEY DIDN'T HAVE GOGGLES IN ANCIENT ROME
Could The Legion still be a thing after Edward? I always like to imagine the canon ending of New Vegas is either a Yes-Man or Mr. House route, but Ceaser stays alive. He dies, but the Legion lives on, albeit in a balkanized state. I think that would be cool, because we can see different interpenetrations and evolutions of the ideology of The Legion. Perhaps one Legion group would be more okay with using tech, or maybe one other could be "friendlier", and I don't mean they would be "more good", but just more inclined to diplomacy and intrigue.
Yes. Anyone who thinks it will die with Caesar doesn't understand how the actual Rome worked and doesn't understand the scale of the Legion described in-game. It will fracture and balkanize but it's unironically going to result in some high-tier civilizations, all of which would probably outlive the NCR.
>200 years after world ended
>Old football gear still intact and abundant enough to equip large army
Bethesda fallouts are dumb. Like why people still living among ruins and junk and not trying to rebuild anything. its been two fricking CENTURIES
dont you know, you are not allowed to like FNV and only allowed to like F3 because TRANNIES plays FNV?
>"abundant enough to equip large army"
Every highschool in America has a football team. There’s a highschool in almost every town.
I dont think that after 200 years Legion will be first to get their hands on them
Who's to say they can't just take it from them?
Take it from who? Does the legion have some kind of sixth sense where they can track down every last piece of football gear in the country no matter who took it?
Who else would have need for it in such quantities? People barely traveled around 80 years after the bombs, and that's on the West Coast; the Legion was established 35 years ago. The point of the Legion's armor is that, for recruits/grunts, it's plentiful and uniform. The armor is little more than football padding, scavenged from countless high schools and universities across the West and the Midwest. Hell it's not even meant to be that good at being armor, there's no metal until you get to the rank of Vexillary, it's literally just football padding. It might be able to stop a machete or a 9mm if you're extra lucky, but that's it. And that's literally the fricking point: you get nothing useful until you prove yourself to the Legion. If the armor fails to save you and you die, you were probably too weak to be useful anyway.
>Can smith guns and machetes
>Leather football pads are too much.
Why would they model them after football pads instead of actual Roman armour?
Cause the tribal slave women only had football pads to work off as a blueprint and didn't know what a Legionnaire was.
So they had tribal women make football pads that they then had somebody else modify to look like Roman armour? You know how stupid this is sounding, right?
They had a bunch of slaves reproduce what they had reference for as they needed them, then wore red clothes and a skirt. Your assumption is as much they found a warehouse of football pads then lugged them with them with each tribe they took over.
>Expecting post apoc tribes to know about ancient roman legion
>there's people out there that still believe the Legion only use melee weapons because "technology bad" even though most of them probably antagonize them as soon as Nipton which means they spend the entire game fighting off death squads armed with rifles
I will never get how so many people that supposedly love a game and have been playing it for a decade can get such basic facts wrong
>Sudden urge to replay OWB
>Theres 40min of unskippable dialog sequence with peak cringe humor
I like location and shooting tons of lobotomites and robots. But damn that opening chore
The opening werent exactly their fault, they had do exposition dump because someone somewhere on the higher up told them to do it.
The writing is mostly fine when you understand what it's referencing but starting off with half an hour of Think Tank dialogue is off-putting.
I was thinking about what my favorite DLC was, and when I was thinking about Old World Blues, I realized it just as much a chore as Dead Money.
there's no "good part", I don't like a single quest in either of then. Both of them have tedious enemies, Old World Blues has the damage sponges that blow up in your face and have the audacity to spawn 20 ft in front of you out of thin air
>audacity to spawn 20 ft in front of you out of thin air
Jokes on you but on one of my runs game forgot to spawn enemies outside. Only scripted ones appeared. Greatness of gamebryo shines bright.
I'm on a replay too and have finally decided that I hate Dead Money
>f-f-filtered
Whatever, I've done it over a dozen times now, and it's just not good
>finally decided
>I've done it over a dozen times now
So you got bored of it after a dozen playthroughs? Seems like a (You) problem
Why Caesar decided to larp as roman and not nazi germany instead?
Banned in Germany
because Romans actually lasted for a thousand year meanwhile Nazis only claimed to last a thousand year
Well, Nazi Germany believed in racial supremacy and that certain races are inferior. This would be pretty impractical in the American wasteland and Caesar himself probably lacks much German blood. The Legion would allow just about anyone to join it. Plus, the Enclave already ape the National Socialists so it would feel derivative.
The Romans achieved what Hitler wanted without the racial autism that Hitler exposed. Also in the wasteland that is America in fallout racial purity is probably the last thing on anyone's mind.
>implying Roman soldiers dressed like that.
You stupid fricking moron.
>makes women and simps seethe