Third world bros, can you even afford original games anymore? I'm brazilian and I can't, they butchered the regional pricing, I only pay for indies basically. What is your experience lately? Good times when the Russian and Argentine prices were great.
Any hairy hispanics needing a Steam sugar daddy?
lmao
is israelite Sega selling important stuff in the deluxe edition or is it just fluff? still more than 10% of my wage, frick that
hi
How hairy are we talking
wienerroach anon here. I can't anymore. SteamShit just raised minimal prices and recommended regionals prices several times this year, and yesterday they deleted liras.
Unironically epic games store giveaways and Fortnite battle passes, it's all I can afford now.
And some russian mongoloid from discord I know, brags how he can now afford more games and everything is 4-5 times cheaper for him because of war. Frick you all.
You still can't gift us anything, because prices is steel different for like 25-30%, so steam gifts interegional gifts.
I will still get the big ones that I actually want like Yakuza 8, but the days of looking around on sales and filling my cart with 10+ cheap games I had never heard about before is likely over
Mexico here, prices for almost everything are still great.
Capcom, Bandai Namco, Square and Koei are shit (because that's just how they are) but it seems like literally everything else is cheaper here than if you directly converted the original price to MXN.
https://steamdb.info/app/1627720/
https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/
https://steamdb.info/app/2138330/
>all more expensive than even the american price
I don't know mexibro, it doesn't look too good.
Yeah and they are great value for the lower price.
I see...
I am not interested in any of those games so I hadn't noticed the shit prices, maybe AAA in general is very expensive.
Last non-indie games I bought on Steam were King of Fighters XV and Disgaea 7, both significantly cheaper compared to US prices.
Mexico is good for indies and sega. Everything else is expensive.
What's the price (either in USD or MXN) of a new, AAA game in Mexico? I'm asking specifically for AAA games because that's the de facto price standard, at least in the US. A new game costs $60 US or $1025 pesos.
Maybe it's different now, but I remember console game pricing being absolutely fricked in Mexico. I worked at Gamestop in like 2006, and my aunts in Mexico would have me buy stuff for them because not only was there no regional pricing, but a new, sealed current gen (at the time) game cost the equivalent of $90 US, which is almost twice what they cost in America. That's outrageously expensive even by American standards, so in Mexico, it was absolutely prohibitively expensive.
Oh, I asked this before seeing this post.
Apparently the answer is "still fricked." That's ridiculous.
>I only pay for indies
as you should, they're the only ones innovating and more often than not deserving of money compared to ubishit/microshit/etc.
>they're the only ones innovating
lol
lmao even
I made sure I bought at least 30 games from my argentine account before they changed currency on the store.
And I still think I should've bought more. It was so fricking cheap. Damn
Same, at least I have a shitton of games to play I guess
Yep, feels good at least knowing that I have a huge backlog for less than 100 dollars
Why in the frick does steam not allow me to pay with paypal?
No idea, does it give any message?
You're right, it's best to just focus on games that you enjoy and have good pricing and ignore the rest
I had an argie account lol
It's cool to buy games and have them on your library, sue me.
>brazilian
I thought steam only killed argentina and turkey.
They changed regional pricing for a lot of third world countries at the beginning of the year including Brazil, Argentina and Turkey had another change on top of that
I don't understand why my third world """""""""""""""brothers""""""""""""""""" complain about Steam raising its prices when piracy exists and can't be prosecuted.
3rd worlders like multiplayer garbage.
You are not my brother, Ivan.
No, I am not going to download your cracked games with included bitcoin miners.
People like to pay for a good service when its relatively adequate for their salary
You see, as 3rdworlders we don't have good computers, that means the only games we can pirate on our potatos are either indies or emulation, so when we are tired of emulation we look for indies, but not many pirates give a frick about those unless they are really popular, meaning we aint finding pirated Squid Odyssey so we can only pay for it when it is offered for like 2 dollars or less.
Also, I hate meeting dead link after dead link.
This. The only third worlders complaining about store prices are richhomosexuals or illiterate zoomers who don't know how to unzip a crack even, otherwise everyone else with basic english knowledge pirates on the usual places
>piratehomosexuals LITERALLY unable to understand people who pay for games
Don't you homosexuals get tired of this shtick?
Yes a third worlder living off a couple of minimum wages is very likely to skip his dinner for all week and hand over 50$ to some fat swede swimming in cash to thank him for the sandbox game with billions of sales
>when piracy exists
>most of the new games can't be pirated
>GaaS can't be pirated
>only low cost indies can be reliably pirated which you might as well (and reasonably should) buy anyway
Lookie lookie there's demand for reinvigorating the pirate scene suddenly
Or you just get hired by some corpo if you have the skills to hack denuvo.
Because Denuvo exists.
>when piracy exists and can't be prosecuted.
Neither can it be in first world countries, but you morons are afraid of pirating all the same.
people have really gotta start buying off key sites. the amount of money you save as opposed to buying straight from steam is ridiculous.
Key sites are bite you in the ass sometimes, people that bought Lies of P keys before the release had them taken away by Valve. The game was removed from their accounts.
>people that bought Lies of P keys before the release had them taken away by Valve. The game was removed from their accounts.
What the frick Valve
Is that even legal?
Yes. A lot of those keys on key sites are cheap because they're bought with stolen credit cards, so when the person who had their card stolen reports it and the bank cancels those payments, Valve reserves the right to remove the game.
The people who bought the game had no idea those keys were bought with a stolen credit card and the money wasn't spent on the Steam store; Valve has no right to revoke their keys.
If the people who buy from key sites don't at least SUSPECT that those keys were obtained illegally then they are a bit moronic.
Valve has every right to remove those keys, if an anon gifts you a game and then calls his bank and issues a charge back the same thing will happen.
I've never had issues with certain sites like GMG but I've heard similar stories to this over the years where people get scammed when using random key sites.
that anon is full of shit. that did not happen. valve doesn't trace key sources, because they can't.
i have been buying from key sites for over 10 years and never once had a game revoked. i bought lies of p before it came out and still have it in my account. the only reason i can think of for this happening is if you buy a key from an actual shady site that steals them.
unless you're paying a fraction it's not always worth it. you can't refund a key.
Just play Counter Strike 2 and sell knife skins. Thats the only thing turd worlders do
>giving money to the gaming industry from the last decade
moronic and poor
Im argentinian
I love paying 1/4 of my monthly salary for a single game
Its totally viable and not something that will FORCE me to pirate
This was a good decision, im sure steam will make MORE money now from the affected regions
Let's not pretend that Argentinians were the ones who used the Argentinian Steam store.
It was always a store for first worlders to get their games cheap.
>HURR DURR I LOVE moronic ASS BACKWARDS SOCIALISM THAT HAS FRICKING MY COUNTRY FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND I STILL SUPPORT IT
you only have yourself to blame
The new Argentinian president will fix everything.
lol lmao
here is what will happen:
- current argie government is butthurt its candidate lost so of course it will everything possible in the 3 weeks it has left to burn the economy further down to undermine Milei and blame everything to him
- Milei has ZERO 0 ZIP NADA support in Congress, so unless he governs through decrees or literally with the military, nothing will change
- economy is about to implode so get ready for a 300% rate by January 1st of next year
if you are an argie and can do it, get the frick out of that shithole asap, it's literally going to vbe worse than venezuela
>My savior would fix everything but those evil politicians don't let him
exactly
How possible is the whole dollerization thing really? Wouldnt that require venezuela gov to convert the whole nations current currency into USD?
I'm certain a bill like that requires Congress approval so it won't fricking happen, at least not immediately
the fact Argies can no longer even print their own money is embarrasing and shows a radical measure like that has to happen
but... I remember like 15 or 20 years ago they already did the dollarization thing, or was it only partially?
And now they elected some lunatic that wants to cut ties with their best trade partners.
is it bad I thought this was an abstract frog meme at first
Very but I can't really blame you.
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Funny thing. One day I had a chinese guy contact me and ask if he could translate my game into chinese and i could update it on next release. I didnt think much of it but i let him since i was okay with more people playing it. Now according to unity stats, 70% of my god damn players are from china.
There's always the danger of burn out. Ive been at it for over 11 years and at the point where i want to make SFW games because im just kinda sick of the porn, but it also pays for my life...
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>Its totally viable and not something that will FORCE me to pirate
They know, but they probably did the numbers and figured out that all argentinians moving to pirating is worth it to block the handful of 1st worlders using VPNs to buy games with monopoly money. For example, you had Sekiro available for less than $2 USD while the cheapest it has ever been in the US is $30. To offset one single VPN-using american getting it for cheap you'd need at least 15 argentinians also buying the game, and with your inflation rates it gets 2x worse each year.
sorry i don't speak inflation
end yourself
argies too will implode by December lmao
Peru bro here, prices are still 'cheap', for me at least but I use CDKeys and Eneba mostly and PagoEfectivo helps a lot too.
Furry porn artist. Honestly the fact that i make more money than doctors in my country is a depressing though. My parents are also proud as shit and think i do computer IT stuff. I was able to buy two apartments on my own before others my parents age are still paying off their first apartment/house.
I really, REALLY wish I had pursued this path. I have a friend who used to draw some really degenerate shit and he seemed bothered by it, but he made my monthly salary in a single commission, maybe 10-12 hours of work involved.
is that still viable? I thought that was ogre since AI slop came into being and the coomers were all satisfied cooming to endless prompts, I guess they like exclusivity/custom things to their fursona way more than the cooming, might get good at that myself for some easy money
It hasn't changed whatsoever. All AI made me realize is that people just want finished products, and are incredibly lazy and unwilling to learn how to even setup webui or control net or anything. There are even ai only art patreons now. Furthermore you can only get so far with ai playing text gatcha, sooner or later youll need to start posing stuff with control net and be more directly involved with repaints and whatnot, which again the general person is unwilling to invest time in.
Lol certainly makes a lot of sense considering how defeated the average wagie must be mentally after a full day of work, I guess most people would have the mental fortitude to learn any of it after it, and that is even worse considering the tiktok attention spam destruction
Kinda lifefuel even since drawing is one of the only things I still enjoy on life
Yea just keep on doing what you're doing. People will always want good content, ai or not. It doesn't hurt to use ai to get reference poses or anything either if you want to just draw it yourself 100%. Also when you start having more than one character on screen with control net, this stuff turns into node hell to make it look right. Example of node setup for one gen that does what I want (only a snippet, rest of nodes setup is another 4 of these screens)
Lol at that point its basically learning another image editing tool but without the pros of it being a visual experience, crazy how even after all that you might even have to do repaints
Unity?
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Oh. Thanks. Just that the boxes look slightly similar. Might I ask what you mean by nodes and multiple references? Is it based on when you're generating locally on your machine (and want some more customization?) I don't plan to use diffusion anytime soon (mainly due to incompatible laptop) but in the future, where would I look for to (image attachment) & maybe get a little tutorial?
Theres some doc in that site as well youtube, but essentially its a more indepth webui/control net that makes it easier to work with multiple characters generation and such, since not only can you define the regions of where something appears but also the particular thing there.
Argentino?
Como metes la guita? Te ayudo un contador? Estoy medio en la misma pero no se como meter lo de paypal, quiero todo legal
Nah sorry, Philippines.
My brother is also a furry porn artist, and he made just as much, if not more, than a doctor in my country...
Mex here
Is around 60 % of games are cheaper
20% are the same price that us
and the last 20% are more expensive
I am not into AAA gaming and i rarely buy games day 1 so maybe i am a bias here
do brazas not know how to pirate?
Potato Hispanic here. I survived the steam region lock and I will survive this. Mexico barely got hit compared to Badzil and Black persontina. Our president is a genius that looks stupid like Mr.Magoo.
Btw all my games were purchased by scamming gay american perverts. They are so stupid and thirsty for ginger spics. They love my milky feet and get blueballed when I don't show them my cute dick with orange pubes.
>Spends money rather than just pirating everything
You aren't as remotely clever as you think you are.
I don't like to spend my money on vidya, plus legal games are comfier for online play.
>I don't like to spend my money on vidya
Then why do you give a frick about Steam?
because I can spend other people's money on vidya.
Honestly I'm tempted to try my luck making a yuri game.
Their may not have infinite amounts of money to throw away like furries do but they're such shit eaters they will buy anything you make.
The only big games I own are those I could find on +75% discounts, beyond that all I have are Indies.
I wasn't able of making an argentinian friend in time to get AAA games for like 10 cents.
Frick you argentina, you are no longer relevant once again.
they are ruined for turkey but good thing i dont play anything anymore
>off topic latin(X) thread
Why are all third world shitskins so stupid?
Turkish here.
I got all the orange juice dlc dirt cheap before the nuke.
I already had all multiplayer games worth playing in my steam before even my country's currency went to shit and I pirated/played all singleplayer games worth playing.
What's the matter anyway? Steam is useless aside from purchasing older multiplayer only stuff which happen to be very cheap and on sale constantly.
Why not just pirate everything like every other person I know does? Do they put westerners in jails for pirating singleplayer games or something?
>Why not just pirate everything like every other person I know does? Do they put westerners in jails for pirating singleplayer games or something?
Pretty simple, people just like the "luxury" of it being on a social media account (steam). It tracks your hours, it tracks achievements.. People just like that luxury.
>It tracks your hours, it tracks achievements.. People just like that luxury.
Just use Playnite then..
It's not as widespread and volatile as steam, I also don't really know much about playnite so I can't comment with full certainty, but you get what I mean.
Minimum wage here is 200$.
I only buy games when it's under 10$
BRs too got the axe? I thought it was only argieland.
Here in Uruguay some prices have been increased during the last few months
>Here in Uruguay some prices have been increased during the last few months
I'm mostly referring to that, regional prices are getting worse and worse.
>people recommend the Horizon Zero Dawn
>sony randomly increases the price (like a 50% increase)
>no longer feel like buying it
I genuinely hope it's just another boring open world snoozfest and I didn't missed anything special
I pirated Horizon and it really is boring. Bought Days Gone and it was actually decent.
Fellow thirdworlder here, have a nice day you morons. Steam fricking loves our region.
Great regional pricing, tons of support for payment processors, and doubling down on the potential growth we have.
Don't fricking blame Steam for decades of voting in absolute morons into office and then crying that your economy is experiencing extraordinary amounts of inlfation that it'd make Donson blush.
It's a fricking MIRACLE they even tolerated your unstable ass countries for so damn long.
>Great regional pricing, tons of support for payment processors, and doubling down on the potential growth we have.
My c**t never has regional pricing, so frick you.
>Fellow thirdworlder here, have a nice day you morons. Steam fricking loves our region.
what region
SEA. How pathetic is it that Valve thinks SEAmonkeys are worth more than you SA spics?
shut the frick up i hope china annexes all of you soon
Lol, no, have a nice day. They must tolerate us, cause they want our money. How fat gambling moron was saying? "People pirate because service is bad, it's main reason". So Steam must stick his tongue in our asses and keep satisfing us, not trying any Kew moves.
My shithole uses bidendollars so i dont care.
Get a work
Have sex
Kys
>Live in Serbia
>No regional pricing
>Average wage is below 500 eur
Sorry you can't afford a luxury, most of us are in the same boat yet we get no actual recognition. AT least you have regional pricing.
How you dealing with influx of russians?
They've been occupying a lot of places in Belgrade which made it significantly more harder and expensive to live there. Belgrade is also pretty much the only meaningful place to live in since it's very similar to Russia in the sense that most of the countries investments go into their capital cities.
Have you been to Novi Sad? 10% of the city is Russians.
>No regional pricing
>Average wage is below 500 eur
thats really shitty but the reason is probably because youre a potential EU candidate. still sucks
>potential EU candidate
>uses yuros as currency
i think they're well past that point
You’re confusing them with MonteBlack. Serbs use dinar which is valued less than ruble.
you do realize that if you earn 1€/h ur 3x richer than the median argentinian you moronic first world cuck
Arg
I always pirated out of habit, i'm a 30yo boomer so i was raised on it.
But pirating indie games is a problem because the scene doesn't care for early access shit. They were so cheap I just bought them. Until this.
really a shame, I'm gonna be missing out.
I'd rather wait for full release anyway. Most early access indie games suck
There's games that simply will never get out of early access, but the scene pirates the version they discover the game with and forget about the rest
Yes, I still can. 0 x N = 0.
Fortunately, GOG still has good prices
I gave up on steam and just collect ms points to exchange for free games/gamepass. You can get 15-20 bucks equivalent every month, good enough to pay gamepass one month or other and buy games every now and then.
I live in Europe and I still torrent single player games. Why wouldn't you? Unless you want to play multiplayer
Nothing changed for Mexico. Only AAA devs who think they are hot shit charge in dollars and those games I prefer to get on sale through fanatical, mostly skip or buy like one a year. The vast majority of my games have thankfully been cheap.
nuuvem bros ww@???
qrd on turkish gamers? what's the deal with them and why are they on par with argensimians?
the lira crashed because the not!dictator erdogan keeps printing to finance his moronic military industry
in english or spanish doc
shit i forget people here are straight up too young to know economics
erdogan = """"""elected""""" president of turkey
lira = turkish name for it's currency
printing = printing money at state level to finance shit, has macroeconomic repercussion
uruguay here, can I trade with argies and brazilians again now?
>Thought I could gift and recieve shit now that steam is no longer using regional pricing
>Now i'm double fricked
Agaaaaaaaaa
My government charge me extra 4$ tax on steam games 🙁
Did you fricking idiots forget how hard Venezuela got assfricked because of their inflation? This was years ago.
How could you literally watch the same shit happen to another country and just let it happen to your own as well? Hello? Did you think Steam was just going to let stomach your dogshit economies for that long?
>How could you literally watch the same shit happen to another country and just let it happen to your own as well?
welcome to latin america lmao
To be fair, Venezuela should have seen what happened to Mexico in 1993 and not let themselves get fricked either. I think most people on this board are probably too young to remember, and the majority aren't Mexican and wouldn't care anyway, but Mexico's economy got skullfricked sideways so hard they had to make an entirely new currency.
>Venezuela
country that can barely buy bread is still entertaining video game industry
It's for the best
>There are still thirdies buying games off Steam
You people are absolutely moronic.
>not even thirdies take pride in being poor
>but he does, like the subhuman he is
>I'm brazilian and I can't
Argie here, I feel you pain (if you cranked it up to 11).
How much is MK1 now cost? Here in Turkey premium edition cost like 1/5 of my wage.
>Verification not required.
>everything straight up costs 5x-10x more now for turks
I want to say I will go back to pirating but I don't even have games I want to play.
>pay
>buy
>third world
paypigs are weird
So why did they raise prices? Is it just inflation adjustment or more than that? Some of those shitholes have over 100% annual inflation after all.
Businesses DESPISE instability and unreliability.
The EU fricked with Steam IIRC
Imagine having to deal wih an economy so fricking moronic their currency can spike by ungodly percentages in a month.
It was pressure from game publishers on Steam to have game sales introduce an automatic 1:1 exchange rate option rather than publishers having to constantly babysit their set regional prices and adjust them to volatile currencies like TRY / ARS.
Steam probably has being saying no to publishers on this notion for awhile. Likely they had their hand forced due to a higher volume of sales leeched by key sites / resellers getting more keys at stupid cheap prices due to the exchange rate difference.
Valve probably wasn't forced tbh.
This is the same thing they did when Venezuela completely shat itself. At some point you have to realize that it's not just feasible having to accomodate an economy that's in fricking shambles when the populace don't even bring you in that much revenue in the first place.
It's honestly a miracle Valve tolerated Argentina and Turkey for so long.
It's over for Capcom tbh. Selling to turd worlders was their sole method of scamming investors.
You mean Asians.
I can afford them. I just can't pay for them.
waht gaem?
Any game by every major publisher aside from Bamco.
damn, that sucks. what country?
Russian Empire
>damn, what should we do to stop le evil emperor putler?!
>oh, I know, let's stop selling vidya to the poor shmugs, that'll show him!
literally rip
have fun pirating vidya, brother.
Eh I just moved countries both physically and in steam.
Кyдa yeхaл? Cepбия? Гpyзия?
How is that going to help North Israel (Ukraine)?
>brmonkeys are too stupid to pirate
why is argentinan peso so fricked anyway?
>their economists are moronic
no shit sherlock. now can you tell me what did these economists do or not do to cause such inflation?
debt trap or whatever, i think.
All of South America is absurdly corrupt. There are brief moments of hope, but then someone utilizes the hordes of people who want gibs to seize power again.
Problem is that SA is too interconnected.
Corruption and brainrot cross-pollinates. Whenever you think a country has some semblance of a chance of improving itself, the rest of the crabs around it drag them back down. Meanwhile Central America is equally fricking moronic and completely wasted its opportunity of being neighbours with the US.
>My country finally gets regional pricing.
>It's shit and 90% of my wishlist is not affected.
Thanks for encouraging me to save money and pirate.
>TFW you life in a country with a stable currency
Gaming is a rich man's hobby, thirdies.
i want to clean toilets in your country
>can afford anything
>there's nothing worth playing
owari da.
Why would Valve want your money when it's worthless?
I've been paying US prices for games for years. Get a better job.
t. SEABlack