It's prolapsed anus man. He has the power to stretch his butthole out from his ass over his entire body, which boosts his power over 10 million times. He comes from an anime where he's a super hero who got isekai'd and blows up planets to subvert the viewer's expectation.
pic related was all i needed to know how shit DB is without any prior knowledge of the channel. i love me some autist "my character can beat up your character" power level shit but this was so dumb that it managed to make Ganker even worse
why would you still watch this channel and expect anything other than bullshit after tracer vs scout?
>character that time travels away any damage wins
no shit
I feel bad for Ben10 gays. Ben has like a hundred fricking cool as frick aliens he can turn into but none of that matters because Alien X is just so much stronger and better than all of his other forms to the point where it just completely overshadows them all. Alien X sucks so hard, especially after they pulled the bullshit where he can use the form with no consequences.
Even as someone who agrees with the outcome I can see why Bengays were pissed. This is probably the worst explained victor they've done.
Hal has gone up against shit like Alien X and even greater on a tuesday and still won, legit that's all they had to say but they spend most of the post analysis downplaying Alien X's feats
Funny enough Hal totally has a counter to Ben anyway. The omnitrix modifies the user's DNA, Hal has modified DNA before himself via his ring's power. So he should just be able to reverse any transformations.
Regardless yeah I agree with you. Right outcome, but it was poorly explained and the animation didn't help.
Let me quote someone >You know nothing about Green Lantern. He’s not pew pew laser man and he’s not Ryan Reynolds wrapped in lime. He’s a willpower freak who wields the greatest weapon designed by Smurfs that caged 99.9 percent of magic in the universe and put it in a star. His sidekick Tommy “Pieface” Kalmaku defeated the Justice League with Hal’s ring following instructions Hal brainstormed when Tommy asked Hal how he would beat the Justice League if he had to. You know how the JLU really nerfed Superman? Think that for Green Lantern but on possibly a larger scale.
Even as someone who agrees with the outcome I can see why Bengays were pissed. This is probably the worst explained victor they've done.
Hal has gone up against shit like Alien X and even greater on a tuesday and still won, legit that's all they had to say but they spend most of the post analysis downplaying Alien X's feats
Honestly, that's not even the reason people hated it. It's because, out of all the ways they could've had Hal kill Alien X, they had him time travel back to before he transformed, when that's the one method that would NEVER have worked, because Alien X can also time travel, and has a 6th sense telling him when people are time travelling, AND Hal literally says out loud "Time, huh? Thanks for the tip" which could not make it more obvious that he's going to time travel, but when he does, Alien X just does nothing?
It used to be Marvel that got the favoritism, up until ScrewAttack was bought out by RoosterTeeth, and is technically owned by Warner Bros.
So maybe when the speedster that jobs to regular hitman beats a character who has literal wishing powers as one out of hundreds of abilities, they might be a little bias.
It used to be Marvel that got the favoritism, up until ScrewAttack was bought out by RoosterTeeth, and is technically owned by Warner Bros.
So maybe when the speedster that jobs to regular hitman beats a character who has literal wishing powers as one out of hundreds of abilities, they might be a little bias.
Oh, and Batman/Bruce Wayne has been featured like 5 times, and Wonder Woman being featured 3 times too. The former only losing before the buyout and to Black Panther, and the latter only losing once before the buyout too.
why would you still watch this channel and expect anything other than bullshit after tracer vs scout?
>time traveler with future tech beats a dude with a shotgun and baseball bat >vee is mad about for somereason
tf2gays are delusional. Tracer v Scout is one of the few DB that made sense
Well here are a few points.
1. The Tech part doesn’t really matter as much as people think, and especially not when it involves volatile characters who could kill each other quickly having fire arms and all. What matters more is what the technology does. For Tracer, it gives her a psuedo teleport/minor heal with plasma based weapons and some protection (but not much since she’s still frail). Scout, depite having late 1960s tech can double jump and vibrate fast to phase through bullets.
If you set TF2 in the future with Scout having the same kit but Future, the outcome wouldn’t change because what technology does is more important than when it comes from.
It’s also not like Tracer is just immune to 1960s bullets because she’s from the future. She can get hurt by low tech or non-tech things in game like just being punched in the face or hit by scrap shotguns.
2. Like mentioned before, Tracer and Scout are extremely volatile and glass cannons by nature. I doubt that Tracer could survive a full shotgun blast at point blank range or Scout survive a volley of energy shots, which is where actual discussion should take place, since it would be a quick blow.
Yeah, Tracer can heal herself naturally, and Scout can heal himself with medkits/supply or even become invincible, but the healing really wouldn’t matter and Scout could only retreat with Bonk.
3. With that being said, what people would need to find out which ranges both characters win at, and how both characters either achieve or maintain such positioning.
In this case, Scout easily wins close range because he has a fricking shotgun, while Tracer would win medium range because Scout has a shotgun and a crappy pistol. Neither would win long range since they couldn’t hit each other that far away and would just easily take cover.
Knowing this, how does Scout get close enough to Tracer to get a hit off? How would Tracer keep her distance and dodge Scout’s shots?
4. If the object of Scout is to close in on Tracer and Tracer’s was to keep a medium range, Scout more than likely wins.
A while back, someone actually compared Scout and Tracer’s ingame speed and converted them into real life units, and it was found that Scout was actually faster than Tracer. This was many years ago but I’m pretty sure it still applies. If Scout approaches Tracer, he will eventually catch up to her before she can run back.
When you put Tracer’s rewind and Scouts double jump+faster speed, Scout can manuver around in his approach than Tracer can when keeping her distance. That Rewind has a cooldown for Tracer and she really can only retreat with it once given its limitations. Scout on the other hand has constant speed and will always have the ability to double jump, which can completely change his momentum to dodge Tracer’s shots.
But let’s say Tracer does get the upperhand and is about to beat Scout. Scout could always retreat himself as that speed also applies to retreating. When he does, he can heal himself to bring the match to neutral state again.
5. The most controversial part of the episode is how DB calculated Tracer’s reaction time. They used a part from one of the OW1 trailers, and it’s the part where Tracer dodge’s Widow Maker’s shot.
This is a whole lot of bullshit for one thing, which is the fact that the trailer makes it explicitly clear Tracer reacts to Widow Maker pointing a gun to her, rather than the actual trigger pulling.
This is a common trend in DB where an attack is clearly telegraphed even in their examples, but they measure the speed of their reaction from the moment the attack fires until the attack barely misses the character.
Yeah, it would be harder to measure when she realized someone was pointing a gun at her, especially in slow motion, and there wasn’t really any other feat they could have taken, but was still incredibly dumb how they measured Tracer’s reaction speed.
4. If the object of Scout is to close in on Tracer and Tracer’s was to keep a medium range, Scout more than likely wins.
A while back, someone actually compared Scout and Tracer’s ingame speed and converted them into real life units, and it was found that Scout was actually faster than Tracer. This was many years ago but I’m pretty sure it still applies. If Scout approaches Tracer, he will eventually catch up to her before she can run back.
When you put Tracer’s rewind and Scouts double jump+faster speed, Scout can manuver around in his approach than Tracer can when keeping her distance. That Rewind has a cooldown for Tracer and she really can only retreat with it once given its limitations. Scout on the other hand has constant speed and will always have the ability to double jump, which can completely change his momentum to dodge Tracer’s shots.
But let’s say Tracer does get the upperhand and is about to beat Scout. Scout could always retreat himself as that speed also applies to retreating. When he does, he can heal himself to bring the match to neutral state again.
5. The most controversial part of the episode is how DB calculated Tracer’s reaction time. They used a part from one of the OW1 trailers, and it’s the part where Tracer dodge’s Widow Maker’s shot.
This is a whole lot of bullshit for one thing, which is the fact that the trailer makes it explicitly clear Tracer reacts to Widow Maker pointing a gun to her, rather than the actual trigger pulling.
This is a common trend in DB where an attack is clearly telegraphed even in their examples, but they measure the speed of their reaction from the moment the attack fires until the attack barely misses the character.
Yeah, it would be harder to measure when she realized someone was pointing a gun at her, especially in slow motion, and there wasn’t really any other feat they could have taken, but was still incredibly dumb how they measured Tracer’s reaction speed.
holy autism, just say you wanted your favorite character to win
And this is the toned down version of Warframes. In game you get to be mega broken. It is simply not fair to compare Raiden to space age bioweapon platforms with ''superpowers''.
>Raiden will die if his head is cut meanwhile the Excalibur can just revive.
Didn't you play through The War Within? wait no, did you WATCH the first cinematic?
Raiden is a sissy b***h. Excal is a weapons platform that can function in the vacuum of space, in dense gravitational fields, in extreme heat, can slice and dodge bullets, has a plasma blade and can also generate plasma bursts ontop of all the weapons available ontop of everything that is available. Did i mention the Tenno piloting the warframe platform? Stop being such weebs. Raiden is a shit choice cus he is a weak gayget.
t. never played Warframe and never farmed and made op builds that one shots anything just take tigris and raiden is dead with single pellet lmao what a pussy
Warframes are just super OP even in the world of Warframe. You need some super seyan/OPM bullshit to actually fight Warframes. And oyu can't really win unless you find where is the Tenno piloting the frame. He'll just keep coming back again and again and again.
in that game they keep giving new enemies some kind of anti warframe field where you cant use warframe and have to get off your suit and go in physically with operator mode to break the device
I mean it make sense lorewise and sound cool but its fricking dumb and chore to play
I honestly cannot thing of a single f2p game that is less p2w than warframe. There is nothing in the game that you cannot farm and acquire without paying. You can make end game builds without giving a single cent and you can actually get the in game premium currency by selling stuff you farm for free. The only end game money buys you is the fashion end game.
nta but i've had friends who played warframe mostly to game the market and scam kids and still did well for themselves while spending nothing or close to nothing on the game itself. player trading of items that cost exclusive currency is a defining mechanic that a lot of these microtransaction games do not have.
Honestly Raiden vs Wolverine and Snake vs Sam are still probably my favorite animations they've done.
My main problem with this is not that Excaliuber wins or the sponsor cause frick it people got to eat I understand that but why use Raiden and not someone like the Overwatch ninja fricker?
>why use Raiden
Excal is the ''sword'' warframe and Raiden is the sword guy. Also since they've already did work with Raiden this means that he was easier to work with since less new material was needed.
Idk anything about Warframe but Raiden's gonna win because MGR memes are popular right now
MGR memes are popular. Their views and sub-count weren't making enough money and losing relevancy fast. They've taken on the YouTuber model of making content related to current popular media so YouTube's algorithm doesn't bury them. It's often pretty pathetic stomp matches solely to ride the algorithm or contentious matches that they can't truly solve but pretend to anyway so people will argue in the comments. It's funny and sad
the worst example is: >New season of attack on titan is pretty close to our series, exposure + algorithm >Death battle presents: Our catgirl with magic, superhuman strength, semi-automatic gun/sword/chain scythe, and a natural forcefield that makes her virtually unkillable
vs >a slightly superhuman with easily disabled grappling hooks, sword, pistol, and RPG who will die from a single bullet or shrapnel. >Who would win!?
They became what they denounced in Deadpool vs. Mask. Youtube's fault. They don't even get excited about hosting it anymore.
I don't know if you're describing Levi Ackerman here and i've never watched this channel but he actually will not die from one bullet, shrapnel, or apparently even a mini-nuke detonated directly in his face. If anyone makes Levi die from something so simple they did not read or watch AoT
Is your only expierience with attack on titan "Levi being badass" compilations on youtube?
>will not die from one bullet
yes, yes he will. Levi spent an arc running from kenny because kenny had a gun. Guns don't scale with stregth. head, heart, leg arm, Levi loses to any bullet that would kill a normal person, he'd probably die slower at best but he wouldn't be able to move.
>shrapnel
Yes, yes he would. anything pierces his body the right way ends him. A rock launched like shrapnel permanently scared Mikasa's face. Levi is no different
> or apparently even a mini-nuke detonated directly in his face.
Thunderspears are grenades. Nukes are comparable to a titan transformation blast or colossal titan steam, which made Levi or Mikasa vs Bert impossible.
Levi only survived the thunder spear explosion because Hanji Nursed him back to health. someone saved from dying from a grenade can't be described as being able to survive it.
levi can literally dodge bullets my man
to be honest i stopped giving a frick soon after the ending sucked mega balls
and the fact that you still care enough to theorize like this makes you a gay dork
2 years ago
Anonymous
>levi can literally dodge bullets my man
He can't dodge bullets. If he's standing still and a bullet is fired at home he can't move faster than the bullet can travel to hit them. he can, however, react to and maneuver around the position of the shooter to make them miss their shot. "Dodging" in the same way as someone who ducks and runs for cover, Which is what Levi did. A lot.
>care enough to theorize
This isn't theorizing. I'm right.
> the fact that you still care enough
I don't care. I was talking about death battle. You're the one who cared enough to talk about Levi specifically. Seems like you're not over Attack on Titan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nobody ever says shit about what the thunderspears actually are in canon, you are theorizing homosexual. i said fallout-style mini-nuke as an exaggeration that technically hasn't been proven false.
Damn right that was kino. Felt like one from the good ole days, had heart and creativity. I skip most of the matches but stay subscribed for fights like that.
All I ask is a season without Marvel or DC homosexualry shitting things up. We get it, the big 2 are fricking moronic, give us something else. Someone on Ganker keeps shilling for pulp Tarzan vs pulp Conan, I'd watch it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I still want >Luffy vs Naruto >Plastic Man vs Reed Richards >Megatron vs. Frieza >Unicron vs. Galactus.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Plas vs Reed
Reed wins if he gets all his one off gadgets, Plastic Man stomps otherwise because he's a far stronger shapeshifter. And he can turn into a bicycle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Usually, they tend to favor generally stronger characters, not those who can get off one lucky shot with a counter.
And yes, he better turn into a bike in the actual fight
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Usually, they tend to favor generally stronger characters, not those who can get off one lucky shot with a counter.
I mean that's kind of the issue though. Reed stretches, yeah, but that's always just been kind of a side thing. His real power as always been being the smartest man in the Marvel universe, and all the crazy inventions that come with that. A Reed fight without any crazy tech just wouldn't really be fair to the character. But that goes into another issue where Reed doesn't exactly have a set in stone arsenal either. Do you give him everything? Some things? Just things he'd probably have around his lab? Do you let him use the ultimate nullfier?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then why does Reed constantly frick up?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it makes for a convenient starting point for a story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Generally, yeah, he would be armed to the teeth. Maybe make the fight have Plastic Man breaking into the Baxter Building then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doesn't the Ultimate Nullifer belong to Galactus?
iirc, Reed has never actually used it. Just threatened to use it to scare Galactus off?
2 years ago
Anonymous
True, but I think they've given characters things under flimsier pre-tenses.
Off the top of my head they let Harry use the killing curse because it was implied he could learn it. Granted it didn't help him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Give me a Professor X vs Martian Manhunter fight that takes place entirely on the Astral Plane. If Martian Manhunter he manages to break out of the mental battle of wills he's stuck in with Xavier and just pushes him down some stairs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like the way you think
2 years ago
Anonymous
>not demanding kino cripple fight of Xavier vs Niles Caulder
For shame
Just looked up Snake vs Sam. This is so fricking stupid. >gun karate is cringe as frick >Sam being able to CQC Snake >Snake being a ninja that can dodge machinegun fire with backflips >Sam "destroys the data" by shooting a fricking monitor as opposed to the PC itself >Otacon hacks into their server and makes their monitors fricking explode
fricking stupid
Raiden vs Wolverine was a stomp and they still got some stuff wrong anyway Raiden can't cut adamantium, that's not how his sword works. He could still easily rip Wolverine apart though because only his bones are metal, nothing else.
Still a little peeved they did Bowser dirty like that
was Yang vs Tifa actually bullshit?
Death Battle wrong outcomes:
>Yang vs Tifa >Kirby vs Buu >Cloud vs Link 1 >Thor vs Vegeta >Ganondorf vs Bowser >Guts vs Nightmare >Hiei vs Sasuke >Reverse Flash vs Goku Black >Johnathan vs Tanjiro >Mario vs Sonic 2 >Doomsday vs Hulk >Thor vs Wonder Woman >Sanji vs Rock Lee >Spiderman vs Batman
>Thor vs Vegeta was right
Nope. All their reasons for why Thor wins was bullshit, such as God Blast being able to kill Galactus. First off, Galactus gets BTFO on consistent basis, dude is a fricking jobber and also Thor's God Blast feat they were referencing had outside help. Thor was just an assist and there was no confirmation it would actually kill a well fed, multiverse-tier Galactus. Also him "knocking out the Phoenix force" when in the next exact page it shows Phoenix Force wasn't affected and Thor gets one-shotted. All of their feats and calculations for Thor was wrong. Meanwhile current Vegeta scales above all the shit Goku did prior to the current arc which makes him moronicly strong, even on par with a lot of Marvel multiversal-tier characters.
>Reverse Flash vs Goku Black is right too
Reverse Flash can't hurt or kill Goku Black, he doesn't have the attack potency or means to do it. Reverse Flash has been BTFO by much weaker opposition.
Not that anon but they explicitly take ONLY high ends into account and Hickman confirmed Thor did knock the Phoenix out
2 years ago
Anonymous
>only take high ends into account
I'm not of the anti-DB guys but no they don't. At least not always, they break their own rules about taking high ends/compositing characters/contradicting character lore all the fricking time in their analysis and outcomes. Also no, Thor has never canonically knocked out the Phoenix Force. In fact in the next exact panel/page Thor himself was the one that got b***hsmacked in one shot, it was funny.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just going by what the writer said. Authorial intent means something no? The Phoenix got a literal hole blasted through it by Thor and it went to a planet and ate it for sustenance is what it looked like to me
>seethe
God Blast being able to kill Galactus is notable since that was Lee-Kirby Galactus, who wasn’t as much as a jobber as he is now. Thor actually *did* knock out the Phoenix Force, it just was knocked onto a planet that it consumed after being knocked out just by passively being by it, allowing it to regain consciousness and BTFO Thor with the amp it just received from that planet’s life force. >All of their feats and calculations for Thor was wrong
Completely false lol.
Even if you want to say ‘oh he’s billions of times stronger than these characters who are universal’, Marvel Universes are 311 quattuoroctogintillion times the size of our own (pic related). Get fricked.
>Reverse Flash can't hurt or kill Goku Black, he doesn't have the attack potency or means to do it.
He can fight the Flash who could destroy the Multiverse by running fast enough, and he can alternatively phase Goku Black’s brain out of his body for an instant win. Him being killed doesn’t matter since alternate versions of himself still alive can time travel to the point of his death and keep fighting. Get fricked.
>quattuoroctogintillion
What the frick is this number?
2 years ago
Anonymous
10^257
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why stop there? You people love inflating power levels so much so why limit yourself? It says centillions and not tens or hundreds of centillions so you have 2-9 to use. Use 9. And instead of making them a giant bag of human beings with no space in between make them 100 meters away from one another see what that nets you. I mean that's what you want, right?
>seethe
God Blast being able to kill Galactus is notable since that was Lee-Kirby Galactus, who wasn’t as much as a jobber as he is now. Thor actually *did* knock out the Phoenix Force, it just was knocked onto a planet that it consumed after being knocked out just by passively being by it, allowing it to regain consciousness and BTFO Thor with the amp it just received from that planet’s life force. >All of their feats and calculations for Thor was wrong
Completely false lol.
Even if you want to say ‘oh he’s billions of times stronger than these characters who are universal’, Marvel Universes are 311 quattuoroctogintillion times the size of our own (pic related). Get fricked.
>Reverse Flash can't hurt or kill Goku Black, he doesn't have the attack potency or means to do it.
He can fight the Flash who could destroy the Multiverse by running fast enough, and he can alternatively phase Goku Black’s brain out of his body for an instant win. Him being killed doesn’t matter since alternate versions of himself still alive can time travel to the point of his death and keep fighting. Get fricked.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Universe measurements
OH
FRICKING
BOY
2 years ago
Anonymous
>quattuoroctogintillion
This is why no one takes power level homosexuals seriously.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this is literally the one and only time i've EVER seen the number centillions used in fiction kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
>quattuoroctogintillion
Do Gankergays really?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Post the DC one where they take a misunderstanding of the initial expansion of the big bang and use the most popular model of the big bang's expansion despite the values being completely incompatible and THEN using a page from upwards of half a century ago saying there's some bigger universe outside the DC universe and that the planet Earth is an atom in that universe to somehow bloat the volume even more
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ego was the one that repulsed Galactus in that God Blast feat Death Battle was talking about. It wasn't a Thor feat. It was an Ego and Thor feat outside help feat so it doesn't count. Also Galactus is inconsistent in every run, even in the same storyline his power fluctuates wildly. You'd have to confirm a multiversal tier Galactus in the context of when a feat happened for it to actually be impressive.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nta; off the top of my head Oblivion arranged for Galactus to fight the Other and he was confident that their clash would destroy the entire multiverse (Oblivion being a nega counterpart of the living Multiverse Eternity), does that count in your book?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was a Thor feat because his Godblast was the thing that Galactus thought he was going to die from moron. >Galactus is inconsistent
In Lee-Kirby’ FF literal pieces of Galactus were said to be able to nuke entire universes. Get fricked.
Nope, you have to confirm Galactus is multiversal in the very moment when a feat is happening, which can't be done for that Thor feat. And even if he was, Thor had outside help which doesn't count. If a fricking planet can affect that Galactus that much, it's pretty much confirmed he was not multiversal then. Because Ego himself is nowhere near that level of power to even affect a being of that tier. Also yeah I can tell you dudes don't read comics. You can never really gauge how strong Galactus is because even in the same exact comic he can get BTFO by a weakling at any moment, it's just how Marvel works.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you have to confirm Galactus is multiversal in the very moment when a feat is happening
Your moronic criteria makes absolutely no sense. If a character can survive a planet exploding, and then in another chapter, some other character completely splatters the former character with a punch, they would logically be planet level. Likewise, Galactus being able to completely nuke universes even when weakened is significant, since Thor was about to kill him. >Thor had outside help
The feat literally had Thor use the Godblast and then Galactus fled because he would have died. *Nowhere* in that span did Ego do ANYTHING. >hurr durrr you don’t read comics
homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that just seems needlessly contrived and for the purposes of these discussions you'd need to make clear you're doing for example "Thor from issue 323 from the volume 1 vs Vegeta from the episode 23 of Super"
>a planet can affect a multiversal Galactus to that extent dude trust meeee
Nope. Ego is not strong enough to repulse Galactus if Galactus was multiversal at that moment. Also yes, outside help matters. Also yes, you don't read comics because you don't know the context for each panel. It's actually hilarious.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ego is a living planet who wields raw energy
If Thor knocked it out, it wouldn't have been able to do anything or even affect a fricking planet. Knocking out means putting someone to sleep/completely incapacitating them. If it can move after an attack it's not knocked out. Also Thor was the one that got absolutely SLAPPED by the Phoenix Force, not the other way around. Literally in the next page. It's funny how you cherrypick and ignore context to wank Thor, one of the most consistent jobbers in comic history right up there with Galactus.
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Writers or even narratives can't always be taken as absolutes in a vs debate. Because 1) humans have biases and make mistakes. 2) Even narration or writing can be inconsistent or shit such as Odin being described by the narration as omnipotent when he clearly wasn't.
Lol. Black person you need to stop equivocating, it's bad for the soul and mind. the literal writer said Thor KO'd the bird and that's that I'm afraid. nothing hyperbolic or flowery about that like with your stupid example of Odin not being omnipotent
2 years ago
Anonymous
that just seems needlessly contrived and for the purposes of these discussions you'd need to make clear you're doing for example "Thor from issue 323 from the volume 1 vs Vegeta from the episode 23 of Super"
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was a Thor feat because his Godblast was the thing that Galactus thought he was going to die from moron. >Galactus is inconsistent
In Lee-Kirby’ FF literal pieces of Galactus were said to be able to nuke entire universes. Get fricked.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Thor actually did knock out Phoenix Force
It was shown right after that attack that Thor was actually the one that shitted on. And Phoenix Force was not even really damaged by what he did. That feat is actually an anti-feat, the complete opposite of trying to make Thor look impressive. Context is everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just going by what the writer said. Authorial intent means something no? The Phoenix got a literal hole blasted through it by Thor and it went to a planet and ate it for sustenance is what it looked like to me
[...] >quattuoroctogintillion
What the frick is this number?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ignoring the fact that the Phoenix Force had to consume an entire planet just to do that
The writer literally said that Thor knocked it out. GET FRICKED.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If Thor knocked it out, it wouldn't have been able to do anything or even affect a fricking planet. Knocking out means putting someone to sleep/completely incapacitating them. If it can move after an attack it's not knocked out. Also Thor was the one that got absolutely SLAPPED by the Phoenix Force, not the other way around. Literally in the next page. It's funny how you cherrypick and ignore context to wank Thor, one of the most consistent jobbers in comic history right up there with Galactus.
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I'm just going by what the writer said. Authorial intent means something no? The Phoenix got a literal hole blasted through it by Thor and it went to a planet and ate it for sustenance is what it looked like to me
[...] >quattuoroctogintillion
What the frick is this number?
Writers or even narratives can't always be taken as absolutes in a vs debate. Because 1) humans have biases and make mistakes. 2) Even narration or writing can be inconsistent or shit such as Odin being described by the narration as omnipotent when he clearly wasn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thor knocked it into the planet, and the planet was destroyed and consumed by its fall, since it’s literally a fiery cosmic entity made out of pure telekinetic energy. The author said Thor knocked it out, but the Phoenix was amped by the planet Thor knocked it to and then it beat Thor.
[...] >a planet can affect a multiversal Galactus to that extent dude trust meeee
Nope. Ego is not strong enough to repulse Galactus if Galactus was multiversal at that moment. Also yes, outside help matters. Also yes, you don't read comics because you don't know the context for each panel. It's actually hilarious.
Ego never helped Thor in that instance. Thor used the Godblast, Galactus fled because he was going to die. That’s the feat, nowhere in that span did Ego do fricking anything.
>Spider-Man vs Batman
Batman is a normal human. Spider-Man is superhuman. He has no real advantage to press, and no real weak point to exploit. Batman wins if you give him some bullshit one off armor, but standard Batman gets destroyed.
Death Battle and most DCgays who are into power levels usually ignore the fact that DC's high tiers bend the knee to Batman and other street level characters 24/7.
That's kind of the issue with capeshit, isn't it? You're allowed to pull out whatever one off bullshit feat, totally not exaggerated line of dialogue, or nonsense scaling you want, but the moment you show a character jobbing everyone jumps at you.
Which is funny because capeshit has so much jobbing that it makes professional wrestling look honest.
>Reverse is nowhere near as strong as GB. GB was downplayed and Reverse was wanked.
They literally say in the conclusion that GB is vastly more powerful than RF, but it doesn't matter because they're both immortal, GB's immortality is way easier to remove, and RF is infinitely fast enough to take off the ring.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They said Reverse Flash was billions of times stronger moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They said Reverse Flash was billions of times stronger moron
Faster, not stronger. Black is universal, while Reverse isn't even planetary. Reverse ruins universes by trolling everyone and ruining their lives; he can't literally blow them up to nonexistence like Black can.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They said he scaled to an entire DC universe which they put at billions x universal. It’s in the episode.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Power scaling is why death battle is almost always wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
With WHAT? The IM punch? The one that is star-level, at best? They literally say at the beginning of the conclusion that Black's attacks completely dwarf Reverse's, but then later they say some shit about "having enough energy to hold the universe together", even though holding shit together is NOT an attack, and there has been zero demonstration of him using that "universal power" against an actual enemy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They said that Goku Black > that particular IMP. However, in some Pre Crisis comic he was capable of nuking the entire Universe by doing some shit to his and Barry’s Speed Force aura. So they used that and scaled the DC Universes’ size to billions of times the normal size, and said Reverse Flash was billions x Universal.
>literal who vs. popular character >literal who is blatantly far more powerful so it just seems like they picked popular character to shit on him and get views since no one gives a frick about literal who >episode also sponsored by the creators of literal who
Wow so interesting. Really good matchup there.
>Didn't they already have Raiden in one of these?
They've had Shadow the Hedgehog three times. Batman FOUR times. Repeat battles are nothing new for them.
He's won once, against Captain America. And lost against Spiderman, Black Panther, and Iron Man. Yes, they unironically pitted him against Iron Man. They had to give him an ultimate Gary Stu mechsuit that he used in exactly one comic and never again just to make the fight last more than 10 seconds.
Speaking of death battle, hope they bring back saitama for another match because goddamn his feat strength just boosted him the frick out in the last few chapters.
Warframes are not "living" per say and cannot "die" per say,they have extreme resilience to damage and the take used to make them is basically warp bullshit mixed with the flood and each one of the is a one man army that could topple an interstellar empire. Raiden cannot win this.
Then this is just Deadpool V The Mask all over again. There is no way raiden can win, why bother having this match at all other than his name still being somewhat relevant
I want you to truly appreciate the amount of bullshit tech the people that made the warframes have.
Wonna know how the achieved FTL? They discovered the Void (see:the Warp) a realm where our understanding of physics breaks down and where every quantum possibility exists at the same time without cancelling each other out by your observation. The first time they opened a Void portal (Warp portal) they came in contact with the Indeffierence (Chaos god) a sentient cosmic entity whose motives are entirely unknow. In their effort to not let it escape the Void they closed the portal while it was attempting to come through it. When the portal closed it managed to sever a finger from this entity which at that moment chose to have a physical body. The finger that stayed behind was a Void quantum anomaly in our space that at the same time existed and didn't exist and gave off infinite amounts of Void energy. So what did they do. They contained that finger into a power generator called a reliquary drive which then they replicated and installed in all they ships. Because the finger is an anomaly it both existed and didn't exist in all the reliquary drives so they managed to power entire fleets with the iuse of a single finger from space satan that shouldn't even have a physical form to begin with but chose to do so on first contact.
Warframes were once humans infected with a nanite virus that went out of control called the Tenocyte virus. The nanites are capable of controlling and repurposing both organic and inorganic matter and given their nature as a self replicating techological nanite swarm they can directly take control of A.I.s and technologies and make them do what they want as a swarm.
Warframes are basically a mass of that nanite swarm that can live in all their "cells". Blow them apart and you can gather up all the pieces and remake them no problem. Blow out an internal organ and they have no intrinsic need for it in order to remain functional. (cont.)
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The nanite swarm will simply use another organ in its stead to remain functional while it repairs the old organ. Unless you perform total atomization on a Warframe you simply cannot kill it.
The Warframes are also powered by Void batteries so they basically have infinite energy only limited by how much their bodies can handle to put out at any given moment. And their abilities are utter bullshit.
Excalibur for example can become invincible for a brief moment while dashing forward enveloped in a shell of void energy,can produce a flashbang so powerful that it even blinds robots,manifest javelins out of pure energy into thin air that bypass defenses and impale targets into walls out from their blindspots and finally he has a build in lightsaber that there is no defense against.
Stalker can behead them and that seems enough to take them out of commission.
That is the thing. He never "killed" any warframe. Warframes that the Stalker "kills" can merely be retrieved and remade. He only managed to render them non functional for the time being and you can always make more Warframes so his Stalking amount to nothing.
So for all intents and purposes in death battle what counts as a win? completely disablind the warframe or killing the operator?
2 years ago
Anonymous
An Operator cannot under any circumstances be killed. Operators have themselves basically become quantum anomalies themselves that cannot be erased from existence. Even if you "kill" an Operator the void will simply spew out another instance of that same Operator that didn't get killed as it happened in the New War. The Drifter was basically a version of the Operator that did not get captured and killed by Ballas and the Void manifested that possibility of the Operator into real space. Raiden cannot win this unless the ruling is render the Warframe non functional. He has a chance there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Raiden cannot win this unless the ruling is render the Warframe non functional.
I am pretty sure that's the rule this time around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then he has a very slight chance if he can do a surprise attack on the Warframe because he will absolutely not be winning against the Operator.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would the operator not be part of the waframe's toolkit? The space magic child is there in the background making the fight happen and willing to come out if anything looks rough with bs magic shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because at that point you are putting a very high tech but limited cyborg against an eldritch cosmic entity in human form that under no circumstances can be killed or be rendered non functional and that is counter productive if you want to keep tension for your show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact they chose these two was the first mistake. There's no way the operator stays out of the fight if this actually happened which is what is supposed to be what they are going for.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The fact they chose these two was the first mistake
Agreed. It is like putting a stone age fisherman's wood dingy against an air plane carrier.
Cartoon physics characters is actually pretty interesting to talk about since they bypass a lot of the standard powerlevel autism. You need a specific matchup to ever have a chance to win against them
Up close yeah Alex would probably smack him silly but I actually think Cole could do it if he keeps his distance and keeps up the lighting attacks cause they're strong enough to hurt the Beast who took a damn nuke to the face and just walked it off.
I don't see Cole getting away from Alex, dude is nowhere near fast enough to keep distance between the two. >they're strong enough to hurt the Beast who took a damn nuke to the face and just walked it off.
Nah, Cole had to be amped to do any meaningful damage to the Beast and the nuke straight up took the Beast down and forced it to reform itself.
Cole wins this actually
People wank Alex with his "tanked a nuke" feat but he got reduced to a pile of pulp when he was nowhere near the epicenter and only came back because a bird tried to feed on his remains whereas Cole was able to consistently hurt The Beast, who actually tanked a nuke
The Beast didn't tank shit. It got destroyed and had to reform itself inside the city. And Cole had to be amped to do any significant damage to the Beast.
He was staggered and teleported into the city several minutes later. And even if it did destroy him entirely, he was still able to reform himself within moments which still gives him better durability than Alex's laughable "nuke-tanking" feat.
Even discounting RFI amplification, Cole was still able to deal substantial damage to The Beast at the beginning of inFamous 2 and killed The Behemoth, who tanked a ray sphere explosion at point-blank.
Shadow. Ryuko didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus just to give Shadow a pity win after being humiliated by Bejita and Mewtwo. Borb should give him what he deserves
Fortunately the show is usually pretty good about shutting down some of the more moronic claims of the shitty research team.
Still doesn't stop all moronation (planck speed Thor), but it keeps out a lot of it.
Dark Souls isn't that vague when it comes to how strong most of its characters are. Gwyn was strong enough to usher in a new age of Fire/Light, but not strong enough to actually maintain it. He was also afraid of Humans for no discernable reason other than they had potential to end his reign or something. Comparatively the Divines and heroes that mantle them usher in new ages all the time and their age must be forcibly usurped by someone nearly as powerful, or more powerful, than them for that age to end.
>Gwyn was strong enough to usher in a new age of Fire/Light, but not strong enough to actually maintain it.
Ah I see, so that means Gwyn has between 200 Megafricks to 3 Gigafricks of battle power... impressive.......
God imagine being so fricking stupid that you try to look for power levels in a fricking metaphor about the rise and fall of empires and the nature of entropy. Jesus Christ.
TES is not what I would call capeshit, at least when you get into gross displays of magical power. It's bog standard high fantasy in that regard, until you get into writing people out of existence and warping reality but is that really capeshit?
I hate whenever people bring up Frisk. The entire point is that she's a normal ass kid who just so happens to be shoved into a world of monsters where said monsters can be killed by just hating them enough and where having enough will power just lets you time travel. Pretty much anyone that isn't an Undertale character would completely destroy Frisk.
Asriel can't reset with Frisk around and Photographic Blur ignores durability anyway
The research team is so fricking autistic and fricking idiotic. >Dracula has a hallway with a neat starry background >OMG DRAGULA CAN MAKE UNIVERSES HE'S OMNIUNIVERSAL TIER!!!
Most of the fights I want include a Ganker character. >Samus vs Master Chief (they're definitely doing Chief vs Doomslayer 2) >Henry Cooldown vs Satsuki Kiryuin >Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira >Liu Kang vs Jago >Vergil vs Sesshomaru >Travis Touchdown vs someone cool >Agent 47 vs Golgo 13 Apparently they're going to use Wick on Bond later this season
I'm surprised they didn't bring Kratos back yet
Oh they definitely will next season, and they'll make him fight Dante.
Optimus Vs Gundam and Obi-Wan Vs. Kekashi were the best videos.
>not TJ vs Balrog
Ew.
>No "WHY WONT YOU DIE?" from Raiden after Wolverine keeps regenerating
They're gonna save that meme for Armstrong vs Funny Valentine.
>Armstrong vs Funny Valentine
Why? And also, Valentine has no real ways of killing Armstrong. Despite Swan's wank, JoJo characters aren't all that much greater than a peak human. Funny wouldn't be able to do anything about Nanomachines, and Armstrong wouldn't be able to see or hurt D4C, making the fight a stalemate.
>JoJo characters aren't all that much greater than a peak human.
Yeah Batman could easily beat up a stand user in a one on one fight.
So fricking moronic, I hate these fricking threads so god damn much.
Depends on the stand user. Top tier stands have some insane bullshit. No one thinks that anything short of Demonbane or God himself could defeat GER. That's not the point, though, since Giorno, Gappy, Jotaro, etc are all just a bit more than the peak of human fitness. They can die to well placed bullets, they don't have particularly thick skin since they bleed from just about every attack, and stands don't usually augment physical feats.
I'm a huge JoJo-gay and even I know that JJBA is massively overwanked. None of the characters are FTL, none of them are even close to mach 10. Even a revolver can take down peak fitness JoJo characters like Gyro Zeppeli. They really are not that strong.
Doesn't valentine have a way of just straight up zero-summing people with his power? Doesn't seem like durability would mean shit there nanomachines or not.
t. haven't read part 7 since a bit after it first finished
It'd be a fun match, though. Steve has massive strength advantages over Terrarian, but Terrarian has mobility, durability, and versatility. Their abilities would just lend to an awesome battle even if we all know who wins.
I don’t want a character per say, but rather a more Meta battle.
In this case, 2 playable characters that are absurdly broken in their Metagame environment.
In this case, Javier from Advance Wars vs 6 Pure Hackmons Eternatus-Eternamax on an Advance Wars map that has a frick load Comm Towers.
In case you don’t know, Javier is a CO who specializes in Comm Towers. A property in Advance Wars DS that normally increases your Army’s Firepower by 10% for each one captured. Javier gets 10% Firepower and Defense for each Comm Tower he captures.
This makes him normally top tier on standard maps because Def in AW is more like a power decrease for your opponent. If you have say 50% Defense, your opponent will only do Half damage to you.
If Javier Get 10 Comm towers, his army is 100% unkillable now.
In Pure Hackmon Eternatus-Eternamax’s case, it has an absurd amount of bulk. So absurd that with the right nature and EVs, Eternatus’s stats wrap around and can have 0 Def or 0 SpD.
This seems like shit, but Pokemon’s damage calculations will have it so that Eternatus will only take 2 HP of damage (keep in mind, this thing has Blissey’s HP stat as well) from one side, unless it’s fixed damage.
Also, in case you didn’t know, Pure Hackmon is basically Pokemon Anarchy the Meta. You can do literally anything you want that can be done though hacking the game. It’s how you can even use Eternatus-Eternamax. You can also give it literally any moves you want, any abilities you want, and any max out all your EVs. Eternatus and Weezing (rather its signature ability) of all Pokemon ruined Gen 8 Pure Hackmons because Eternatus-Eternamax with Neutralizing Gas was that fricking broken, forcing all teams to run OHKO moves.
>tfw both of your characters are now completely irrelevant and will never got a DB
I don't even care who wins here. The fight alone would've been moronkino
I'm more surprised they've never done a 3 way throw down with all the elastic powered people. Luffy, Mr. Fantastic and Plastic Man. Though from what I hear Plastic man is pretty broken. With the way Luffy is shaping up I wonder if the clear winner would still be the case.
Well, good on them for getting that Warframe dosh.
At least they won't have to bullshit fluff for their winning horse. Warframes are scary shit.
Raiden is probably stronger.
Excalibur is definitely tougher.
Raiden's sword is super science.
Excalibur's sword is super space magic. And science.
And if he feels like it, Excalibur's Tenno can just pop out and shoot double-magic.
Excalibur is a boring basic-ass b***h, though. Give me Mag, Valkyr, Hydros, or Oberon.
Miss me with those overpowered buttholes I see every mission.
Frick off moron. Touhou is too good for this shit and the lore is very explicitly designed in a major "frick power level homosexualry" way by having conflict resolution be done via duels where power doesn't matter.
I agree Reimu is more powerful than Goku and Superman but power level homosexuals are mostly Ganker virgins who would ape out at you for insulting DC bullshit.
That's a moronic reason to hate a character.
If it's the same guy that wanked Dio up to being massively faster than light without time stop then he'd probably make her lose that fight anyway, since a Sakuya victory would hinge entirely on her superior time powers and making Dio that fast would let him just speed blitz her.
One of the main researchers, Swan, had an autistic meltdown on the DB forums over the results of that match. He's harbored animosity towards Touhou ever since. He's also the one that said DIO is 1500x FTL and can punch harder than an atom bomb despite him only denting a road roller and needing to combine forces with Jotaro to destroy it
Sakuya definitely still wins even with those dumbass feats.
Her time manipulation abilities are straight up better than Dio’s in every possible way with Dio only matching her with his Heaven form (that was beat by Jotaro tricking him into killing himself).
Dio was even beaten by Star Platinum copying The World’s weak ass time stop, but you expect me to believe Sakuya with the ability stop, fast forward, rewind, and even control space itself would lose to Dio?
Hell, Adam Sandler with the Clicker he had could beat Dio unironically.
One of the main researchers, Swan, had an autistic meltdown on the DB forums over the results of that match. He's harbored animosity towards Touhou ever since. He's also the one that said DIO is 1500x FTL and can punch harder than an atom bomb despite him only denting a road roller and needing to combine forces with Jotaro to destroy it
Sakuya definitely still wins even with those dumbass feats.
Her time manipulation abilities are straight up better than Dio’s in every possible way with Dio only matching her with his Heaven form (that was beat by Jotaro tricking him into killing himself).
Dio was even beaten by Star Platinum copying The World’s weak ass time stop, but you expect me to believe Sakuya with the ability stop, fast forward, rewind, and even control space itself would lose to Dio?
Hell, Adam Sandler with the Clicker he had could beat Dio unironically.
what a trash matchup, raiden can just slice him in two with his hi-frequency blade. not to mention, the warframe is useless without a little tenno homosexual piloting it, unless you want to count the anomaly that is umbra, but even then it's just like fighting a bestial suit of armor. either way, raiden has dealt with metal gears the size of buildings, not to mention senator armstrong, solidus snake, and hundreds if not thousands of genetically engineered super soldiers who were bred for combat. tennos are children with some space age mumbo jumbo powers that won't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
>No ship vs ship battle >No team vs team battle >No army vs army battle where the army actually matters Eggman vs Wily was just a Metal Sonic jerk-off fest >Took the death race suggestion and turned it into a joke series
Why is DB so uninspired?
The second video was pure spite and a way for them to basically say "goku is never winning frick you Superman is the strongest fictional character ever", which is a moronic stance to take coming hot off the heels of a new wave of content but whatever.
Basically, it was a big "Shut the frick up we never want to do this matchup again so Superman is infinity times strong and fast and durable and he can never be beaten by anyone".
And then they have later characters that are scaled based on how the were able to fight against Superman, so so much for that.
Don't forget that they extended that to Jonathan because he fought Dio in Part 1, saying that Jonathan was FTL, and was thus billions of times faster than Tanjiro
Most people that care have known for a while that speed calcs on Death Battle are really fricking bad.
I blame Scout vs Tracer for setting the original "bullet dodging" precedent for calculating speed. It was bullshit there too because Tracer wasn't reacting to a bullet being fired. She was reacting to someone pointing a gun at her. It's insane to assume she started reacting the moment the trigger was pulled.
I fought so fricking hard on their forums to convince people it was aim dodging, and was so fricking pissed when they took it as her actually fricking dodging the bullet. Thank frick the forum got shut down after for piracy.
Honestly this bullshit is at the crux of so many "laser dodging" feats.
Everyone assumes that >Every shooter has perfect aim
and >Character aren't allowed to react until the trigger is pulled
even if said speed feats make no fricking sense for the character in question. Hell, that can even apply to lightning dodging if there's some sort of windup to the lightning attack (hand waving, saying some word or phrase, pointing, whatever).
Worse is >Calculating Dracula and Sora’s reaction speeds based on telagraphed attacks regular humans can dodge >Calculating Ganon’s reaction speed based on LINK’S reaction speed that’s based on telegraphed laser attacks players can react to
"Calcs" in this kind of stuff are almost always extreme bullshit designed to intentially mislead by taking something out of contexts. Every fricking time.
You get to hear a run down on each characters general lore and greatest feats, see crazy stupid measurements, watch a generally well animated simulation of a fight which ends in a gory death, give a rundown on why they won, and then be generally dissatisfied with the result.
The presentation can be good, history lessons on fictional characters can be fun, and some of the battle animations are good. I don't give them views anymore but sometimes I watch reaction videos just to see how dumb homosexuals react to stupid cape shit.
Bullshit strength scaling aside, Balrog vs TJ using real world boxing theory to justify their decision is one of the few kino pieces of research they've ever done.
In Yoda vs Mickey they scale Mickey off of Roxas's speed by some feat he does in KH3 where he flys lightyears away from the battle against Xemnas, Axel,Xion and Sora
I'm pretty sure that's not what happened but I haven't played KH3 so idk
It did happen, the researchers just took the most obviously ridiculous scenario to explain what happened
Instead of using the obvious explanation of "he teleported" they believe Roxas somehow jumped from one star system to the next with impossible accuracy all in under a few seconds
The research team is so fricking autistic and fricking idiotic. >Dracula has a hallway with a neat starry background >OMG DRAGULA CAN MAKE UNIVERSES HE'S OMNIUNIVERSAL TIER!!!
Even if Dio WAS 1500x FTL, he would likely die of boredom before he killed the same guy 3 million times in a row. There's no reason for him to grind away at Alucard's extra lives when he's making no visible progress towards killing him whatsoever.
Fun Fact: there was a Death Battle that released on Oct 21st of 2015, which is Back to the Future Day
Unfun Fact: It wasn’t Dio vs Sakuya. It was Tifa vs Yang. And I’m STILL MAD.
>own video shows Kirby flying on a warp star at about jet speed >so apparently he can fly at 500000x the speed of light >and since he can pilot it effectively this means Kirby himself can move at the same speed
Kirby is an unfortunate example of a joke that went too far and people started taking too seriously.
Why'd they do it?
Really just wanted to see Homelander get his shit kicked in. Not saying it wasn't a fairly fitting matchup but Omniman was obviously far stronger.
Because he can't beat Popeye's cartoon shit.
Popeye's managed to survive god turning off the universe.
I actually really enjoyed that one, just for the dumb jokes like >Saitama performs a punch >It has japanese for "Death" on it >Popeye is completely unphased because he cannot read japanese
Toons are just a different breed in death battles and they are using pre-monster org Saitama.
qrd?
In the newest chapter Saitama and Garou clashed fists. The strength of said blows blew away a couple dozen stars away in the next panel. If you don't want to count that as his feat strength, afterwards he easily destroyed a moon of Jupiter with one hand and he still wasn't serious.
It was fine but they clearly did it because they're pissbabies about OPM like most power level gays. I can't even begin to tell you how pissy they get over OPM.
Saitama is just a guy with very good physical stats.
Even if you give him infinite stats Popeye is a toon, all toons (at least according to Death Battle) has something called 'toon force' what in a nutshell means that they can shit on physics and are more powerful even than a top tier reality warper.
Anyway they probably have done that because DB was mad about the people saying "saitama can defeat goku, superman, ..." because absolutely nobody was asking for this match.
That's not what toon force is at all, depending on the toon it can be as mild as Wily Coyote or as bullshit as Popeye. But unless proven otherwise, any basic reality bender or mind controller can 1v1 a toon.
But yeah, I have no idea why they thought people wanted to see Popeye Vs Saitama.
Someone mentioned Touhou earlier, which reminds me that VSBattles had the hilarious idea to make physically normal humans into FTL speedblitzers through scaling.
It just doesn't go together.
They made Saitama fight Popeye so that they could explain to the audience that Saitama isn't a fricking gag character, and showing Popeye, who is a real strong gag character. The author, ONE even explain that the idea of Saitama is that you take the protagonist at the end of their series, when they're at their most powerful and put them at the beginning of series. It would be equivalent of taking Goku from the end of Super, when he has Ultra Instinct and then starting the story of Dragon Ball. He would be able to one-shot everything and there would be no tension when he's around, but eventually he will meet something that's close to his power.
They also made him fight Popeye because they were betting that no matter what Saiatam did in his series he would still lose because of how ridiculous Popeye is. Even with the current chapter where Saitama and Garou destroy dozens, if not hundreds, of stars, which would actually make Saitama physically stronger than Popeye during that death battle, he would still lose.
They're morons if they think that. If you haven't played DaSI, the ending is basically you've been collecting lord souls entirely so that you could become glorified tinder to allow the First Flame to continue burning for just a bit longer, delaying the Age of Dark. The CU never actually gets any "power" from the lord souls, and they die immediately because they're fricking being burned alive to keep Lord Gwyn's legacy alive for just a little bit longer.
as a warframe fan, i really don't hope they make excalibur win just because warframe is sponosring the video, unless they have 1000000% concrete evidence excalibur could would, but i dont think he can, to be honest. raidens sword cuts through fricking anything. warframes are flesh and steel, no fricking chance.
I don't think they are, they're known in dumb VS circles as well, just not at the forefront. If anything, Blazblue is just more known to Death Battle watchers, the most popular Blazblue video on Youtube is Sol Badguy vs Ragna, there are 7 Blazblue videos with above 1 mil views on Youtube. The top 2 have 4 mil (the DB one) and 1.5mil-ish respectively.
Umineko has a similar number of videos in that category, but the top 2 have 6.5 and 4.5mil respectively.
More niche for some demographics, sure, but Blazblue really is not that popular outside of Japan.
>they're known in dumb VS circles as well
No they aren't. They're boogiemen thrown around the metaphorical campfire of these neanderthalic discussions, vague names with even more vague feats being listed by people that never read the source material in order to jerk off to power scales. It's the same fricking niche Touhou used to occupy, and I thank god for the fact that I rarely see people bring up Yukari these days because Touhou didn't deserve that fate. No work of fiction does.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Frankly it's better that Umineko occupies that spot than Touhou because Touhou is a vague mess, what's fun about it is making up your own shit and fanworks for it
At least Umineko has battles and power dynamics, but take them to silly levels on purpose
2 years ago
Anonymous
Umineko's initial fun is about the mystery and Battler desparately trying to disprove that a magical culprit is the definitive answer to "who done it?"
I think that's why most fights fall apart with it (and why a DB about it would be boring) because these fights don't really consider the mystery or the "logic" that characterizes the sound novel.
If you were just to do a straight up DB it's just weeb-flavored reality warping probably fricking over something that's less silly or vice versa.
Also, Umineko itself laughs at the idea of Versus battles. The narrative defines the winner, doesn't matter what kind of powers the character is supposed to have.
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>Being this asshurt that your lame weebshit gets beat by my less lame capeshit once again
>literally scales above the concept of cardinality and the ideation of ‘scale’ or ‘size’ of a set in a manner analogous to a dialectical manner of historical idealism >can one-shot and overcome barriers consisting of cabalistic aggregations of all possible hyper-temporal modes in any possible relativistic worldline >is a narrative exemplification of total transdual ‘being’, ‘being’ beyond the negative and positive juxtaposition that is story and non-story >can tank entire metaverses worth of narrative material being shot at him, with any metaphysical ‘amount’ of this material being able to reset Type 4 Metaverses beyond any set theoretic axiomatic framework >Metaverses themselves transcend infinite Type 3 Multiverses infinitely, consisting of axioms that are completely contradictory in reality, leading to infinite principle of explosion type events where 0 = 1, which blows past any ‘type’ of infinity or Multiverse (including Type 4) >Is the manifestation beyond a type-omega-bit consciousness, is the post-Hegelian idea of an ‘Obermensch’ in the most Gnostic and anti-Hylic mode of existence; is capable of breaking through ‘the end of history’ as a reification of all goodness in any type of human collective consciousness or unconsciousness >Is the incarnational self-insert of the non-dual container of all narratives which contains all ‘story machines’ which generate all dualities, including concepts, narratives, and all forms of structure (metaphysical, mathematical, and physical) >Is the embodiment of all concepts as the ‘contraction’ of the non-dual non-conceptual intellect, is the embodiment of immortality and all other conciliar concepts >contains every concept to ever exist and is the antithesis of them, and can infinitely adapt after this as a baseline, with this adaptation being beyond all the concepts it embodied before (including all types of actual infinities)
Riddle me this because i'm actually curious. what kind of perverse autism does it take to write something like this out?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Welcome to the shit show that is modern Western comics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
DC Comics has genuinely nothing going for it besides Batman, Superman, and on rare occasions Wonder Woman. To try and make up for that they've jacked up power levels to absilutely moronic heights.
The most fervent DCgays, being the scum among scum that they are, grab hold of this in a deluded attempt to say that stronger = better, and because DC defines itself as the strongest that means it's the best.
Marvelgays are annoying but the diehard DCgays are a whole other level of awful.
Why do comicbook power levels read like edgy fanfiction wank? It's like what a 2 year old would say "NO MY ACTION FIGURE IS STRONGEST AND CAN BEAT insert concept/word/character/idea".
How recent is TR Superman and what was the reason DC decided such a thing needed to exist? Was it really just so they could have a character that beats Demonbane?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He’s from the early 2000s, and he exists as the ‘ultimate failsafe’ against a cosmic vampire editor that consumes storytelling. It’s a metaphor for Alan Moore. Read this for more info:
>he exists as the ‘ultimate failsafe’ against a cosmic vampire editor that consumes storytelling
Ok then, why did DC feel that such a cosmic vampire editor with 4th wall powers needed to exist?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Read the blog post and it explains it
2 years ago
Anonymous
The same writer who made that was a crossdresser who wrote pic related, by the way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that a African Superwoman robot?
2 years ago
Anonymous
and yet he's still somehow weaker then Batman with prep
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Final Crisis is a result of a writer being a piss baby about a good deconstructive work of fiction.
Holy shit this the exact type of next level autism that's killing modern comics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
DC seethes hard about Moore since he left them and shat on superheroes, but can't help but take shit from him.
Watchmen was ruined by Doomsday Clock having Superman fix all the problems in Watchmen's world by going "things... DO matter" and having the Batmanhattan who Laughs exist.
Killing Joke was ruined by that Three Jokers bullshit where it was revealed that he never abused his wife.
And now they're fricking up his Great Darkness by making it to be some cosmic threat that's behind everything when it was a more neutral force.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't understand how anyone can respect DC.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Blind company worship.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he exists as the ‘ultimate failsafe’ against a cosmic vampire editor that consumes storytelling
Ok then, why did DC feel that such a cosmic vampire editor with 4th wall powers needed to exist?
Bullshit aside? None of that 4th wall bullshit he's telling you is true. The cosmic vampire in question, Mandrakk, feeds on the in-universe concept of "stories", and because Superman is a Mary Sue his story was particularly succulent, but also powerful (DC makes Superman out to be something much more profound than he actually is). Mandrakk also feeds on the "Bleed" of the Multiverse, which would be the dimensional branes that separate universes, in this case represented as a red ichor- yes it's a menstruation reference and Marvel has a similar thing called the Superflow IIRC. Anyway all that gobbledyasiatic about types of Multiverses, platonic concepts, transcendence, etc is complete garbage that people fooled themselves into believing. you can't even quantify his power level because his story took place in the monitor sphere, which is the outermost "celestial sphere" (look it up) of the DC Multiverse, which has its own dimensionality that you need to ADJUST TO to even walk on, so you're not at your "standard" power level in there to begin with
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everything said in the original post was true tho. >t. Hylicpilled
2 years ago
Anonymous
only, and i mean ONLY a genuine Hylic would worship Superman like that.. that is all
2 years ago
Anonymous
True, but that is not ‘worship’.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was talking about Morrison, that bald scottish troony with they them pronouns who cums on his comic books as a pagan ritual
"This was an INCREDIBLY close fight that could have gone either way."
"But this dude's 67 billion times faster because he scales to his half-brother's cousin's pet dog, daniel, and he's also fourteen thousand times stronger because he can use a ring-pull on a coke can."
I really hate their way of power scaling. According to their rules, Robotnik would be as fast as and as strong as Sonic because they've punched each other once.
>tfw thought it would be safe of this autistic cancer outside of Ganker
At least they showed the admirable restraint of not featuring DC or capeshit for one episode.
Hilarious since we've long since stopped talking about that shitty game in order to piss at each other because that's what these stupid power level autism battles devolve into. Pissing contests.
It's not as easy as it looks. If you discard Tenno-hax, Excalibur is structurally a technocyte-infected Dax soldier. That's on the high edge of MGSR's power range, but within reach considering HF blades. That would be a fight worth seeing.
But since it's Youtube bait, we're going to get Tenno-Hax vs Memes.
Doesn't Warframe take llace so far into the future that technology is effectively esoteric magic, with each Warframe itself being bio-engineered living weapons and virtual forces of nature?
While technically yes, the tech in the setting is all over the place. Warframes are taken down with melee weapons, explosives and small arms of relatively reasonable power.
The problem with a Warframe is that the convenience gameplay contrivances are canon to the Tenno. They are immortal, implacable and overwhelming. They fly, phase through reality, no-sell literal anti-ship weaponry and even if you literally annihilate one, it will reform itself out of energy.
The local system empires only withstand the Tenno because they're thousands against trillions.
I hate Gankergays so much. Whenever someone mentions a non-western comicbook character beating a version of their characters, they move goal posts and say "Well this version from poopyscatuniverse says that he can run 1 million times the speed of light and rewrite reality in this issue".
Just like every other death battle since it's inception.
When are you people gonna learn that this shit is just stupid nerd battles with no basis in anything that appeals to the lowest common denominator?
>watching this shit in the first place
Does Ganker just not have a fricking filter with the shit they watch?
The friend simulators that the eceleb spammers have been programmed to think they’re friends I get they don’t know any better
But this shit is a whole new level of the tism
Why does comic writers, specially the DC ones, like to give a morbillion of powers and feats to their characters just to make them job to an average villain 3 comics later?
Don't they understand that the more powerful a character is the more difficult is to create an interesting and consistent story?
It's more to do with the fact that capeshit has been running for a long ass time. Add all the cosmic event shit co-existing with a mostly strict status quo and you get some really wacky scaling.
Superman is almost 90 years old by now, right?
This is death battle adjacent but man this is actually a really great video if y'all have seen it. A lot of the shit DB puts out is terrible but there's sometimes great ones.
OMM is hit or miss. Avoid the one Naruto obsessed homosexual animator and they're usually pretty good though. Samus vs Megaman, Link vs Sora, and Terry vs Burai are all great.
>Thread almost instantly becomes focused on Ganker or Ganker matchups despite being the OP being about two video game characters on the board dedicated to video game discussion
popular match between popular characters
spoiler alert the episode turned out to be a hit and pretty much got more views then all the episodes of last season
popular match between popular characters
spoiler alert the episode turned out to be a hit and pretty much got more views then all the episodes of last season
Honestly they should do more completely lopsided theme-based matchups like that. Hercules vs The Monkey King was also interesting cause it wasn't basing itself off of some modern fiction. It felt more like their really old videos where they got stuff wrong... because mythology is usually about a ton of interpretation, so this time it's excusable.
It was a damn good episode. I hate the capeshit matches, but that one was something fantastic. The animation was good, the voice acting was good, the pacing was amazing, it made sense thematically, and no one had any doubts as to who the winner would be. The planets aligned to make the perfect capeshit episode, and now we have no need for any more.
if you're under the age of 18 and you watch this shit your brain is systematically being turned into sludge. go consume the media their "death battles" are based upon. it'll be infinitely more valuable than watch this program could ever be.
I just want to know what those random magazines Jotaro stuffed his uniform with are made of, if they are able to withstand several knives being thrown into them at 1500 times the speed of light.
An entire army made of blood, which Dio can use to heal.
Unironically, he could and should have won if he DIDN'T go for his final form. Dio can't kill him 3.5 million times before the sun rises, which Alucard don't give a shit about while it's fatal to Dio.
All he needed to do was not stop being invincible. Time would have been on his side to a degree unimaginable.
Step 1: love Jojo so much you want their stats to unstoppable numbers
Step 2: realize those numbers don’t help against someone like alucard, so headcanon win conditions anyways
Dio's one of my favorite villains and I even know he has zero chance against Alucard. Frick he's effectively immortal with how many souls he's stocked up. And forget taking on Alucard with Schrodinger's bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alucard can't even be killed by Dio ONCE. Alucard only uses a life if he dies in a way a vampire does. IE a stake through the heart or something
Anon, I think Alucard should have won, but if Alexander Anderson could kill Alucard in one precise decapitation when they first met, Dio could definitely get more than a few kills.
Not like dying once or twice ever really bothered the guy, anyway.
Dio's definitely getting some kills in. Stat wanking aside, he is really fast and Alucard doesn't know about stands at the start of the fight. Plus it's his style to just let his opponents futilely whale on him for a while.
Unironically maybe, because he has a counter to typical shapeshifting damage immunity which is Plastic's biggest advantage.
It's not a free win by any means though. Plastic Man has some real bullshit like crawling inside of people and puppeteering them.
None of them.
Who actually cares about these dumb battles between fictional characters with completely baseless and made up statistics that are touted as facts?
Obi-wan vs Kekashi
All the Megaman variants
Gutz vs Nightmare
Hulk vs Broly
Ruy vs Jin
Might Guy vs All Might
Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (Even if they got the victor wrong)
Thor vs Vegeta
Saitama vs Popeye (Even though Saitama had no chance in hell)
Generally any fight that isn't a complete stomp and less magic/psychic bullshit is a good watch.
Physical combat makes a victory feel earned a lot more than bigger numbers of clouds split or nukes per square foot.
It might have had something to do with how quickly Broly and Hulk could improve as they kept getting more pissed off. Broly could kill Hulk before they both got too frick-dumb levels of strong.
Or that Death Battle doesn't really give a shit and just throws a dart at the board before each match.
Either way, I did enjoy that Thor v Veggie fight. Both voice actors were on point, and the animation was very good for a sprite-fite.
Dio can't punch apart a road roller in stopped time
Alucard slices high chromium steel tank shells in half like butter with his hands
Dio got his leg sliced off by being thrown through a window and freaked out.
Alucard was smashed into intangible mist and laughed.
Even if Alucard just stood there doing nothing and taking every hit Dio throws at him, there literally isn't enough time to burn through all his lives before the sun comes up and fricks Dio. Like Dio would have to kill Alucard something like 100 times a second for 12 hours straight to make it.
Remember their lead researcher wrote a blog 5 years ago wanking Dio to high heaven and saying he would atomize Alucard millions of times over. He later wrote and directed the death battle episode.
Popeye can undo being erased from existence by eating spinach. While he doesn't exist. You really can't come up with a better durability feat than that.
Unironically plot armor beats that durability feat and is the ultimate durability.
Can’t kill someone who the writers don’t want to kill off. >But Popeye can beat the writers
The writers wrote themselves being beat by Popeye in their own fictional version of themselves, and only were beaten because the writers wrote Popeye beating them.
Basically, Popeye would be fricked against an Troon character, no matter the actual feats either has, simply because DB would just write in some bullshit means to let the troon character win because they certainly can’t have an oppressed minority like Troons be killed by racist straight white male from early 1900s. Even if they wanted to be honest, DB would likely have an actual bomb sent to their offices if they had Popeye kill a troon character, which is why they’d have the Troon character win no matter what.
>Saitama can punch through dimensional barriers
DBZ characters can scream through dimensions, Xiaolin Showdown showdown characters can slash openings through dimensions, Kuawabara, Hakumen, affecting dimensions is very common in fiction, they're not toonforce. Someone in Boruto/Naruto also held a portal or some shit. Those are just fantasy abilities, not toonforce. Popeye waving his hand around and materializing popeye out of nowhere is toonforce. Popeye punching hard enough that it BREAKS THE ANIMATION REEL is toonforce. Popeye hopping out of his cartoon to knock out his own animator is toonforce.
Toonforce in the context of an actual fight to the death stops being funny, and thus stops being toonforce. It's moronic to treat it like a serious thing.
Toonforce should be purely defensive because the toon characters its based on are entirely passive and reactionary entities that only ever do things in response to external attacks. The moment you use toon force to start the hostilities you should have an anvil fall on your head as you slip on a banana peel and get all your fingers and toes caught in mousetraps for being a homosexual
Why exactly are some of you so miffed about toonforce? It isn't a hard concept to grasp, and not all toons are the same. Popeye specifically might be the most powerful toon for being able to resist universal wipes but you can theoretically stick him in the omega sanction or spawn a clone for him to fight forever to win. He isn't undefeatable
Used to play Warframe alot. Raiden should have this. Warframes have been said to have been killed by certain enemies. Raiden can slash through almost anything in bullet speed. Warframes have no offensive feats as good as Raiden.
Only way I can see Excalibur winning is speed/maneuverability blizt. Warframes parkour options are nuts.
Who the frick is even on the left?
Excalibur obviously
The Excalibur Warframe
Its greyfox
It's prolapsed anus man. He has the power to stretch his butthole out from his ass over his entire body, which boosts his power over 10 million times. He comes from an anime where he's a super hero who got isekai'd and blows up planets to subvert the viewer's expectation.
>Warframe
really? like really?
why would you still watch this channel and expect anything other than bullshit after tracer vs scout?
I didn't know what this channel was 5 minutes ago but if you tell me scout loses I will become angry
Scout loses
Tracer's time frickery is too much for Scout, sorry to say
it really isn't. they got multiple things wrong like insisting bonk made scout invincible when in reality it's supposed to make him fast
pic related was all i needed to know how shit DB is without any prior knowledge of the channel. i love me some autist "my character can beat up your character" power level shit but this was so dumb that it managed to make Ganker even worse
>character that time travels away any damage wins
no shit
>Dumb
Read some fricking comics. Alien X ain't SHIT
I feel bad for Ben10 gays. Ben has like a hundred fricking cool as frick aliens he can turn into but none of that matters because Alien X is just so much stronger and better than all of his other forms to the point where it just completely overshadows them all. Alien X sucks so hard, especially after they pulled the bullshit where he can use the form with no consequences.
Even as someone who agrees with the outcome I can see why Bengays were pissed. This is probably the worst explained victor they've done.
Hal has gone up against shit like Alien X and even greater on a tuesday and still won, legit that's all they had to say but they spend most of the post analysis downplaying Alien X's feats
Funny enough Hal totally has a counter to Ben anyway. The omnitrix modifies the user's DNA, Hal has modified DNA before himself via his ring's power. So he should just be able to reverse any transformations.
Regardless yeah I agree with you. Right outcome, but it was poorly explained and the animation didn't help.
Let me quote someone
>You know nothing about Green Lantern. He’s not pew pew laser man and he’s not Ryan Reynolds wrapped in lime. He’s a willpower freak who wields the greatest weapon designed by Smurfs that caged 99.9 percent of magic in the universe and put it in a star. His sidekick Tommy “Pieface” Kalmaku defeated the Justice League with Hal’s ring following instructions Hal brainstormed when Tommy asked Hal how he would beat the Justice League if he had to. You know how the JLU really nerfed Superman? Think that for Green Lantern but on possibly a larger scale.
Honestly, that's not even the reason people hated it. It's because, out of all the ways they could've had Hal kill Alien X, they had him time travel back to before he transformed, when that's the one method that would NEVER have worked, because Alien X can also time travel, and has a 6th sense telling him when people are time travelling, AND Hal literally says out loud "Time, huh? Thanks for the tip" which could not make it more obvious that he's going to time travel, but when he does, Alien X just does nothing?
Capeshitters look like THAT?
Does DC get favoritism? I honestly can't tell marvel from DC so I wouldn't know.
It used to be Marvel that got the favoritism, up until ScrewAttack was bought out by RoosterTeeth, and is technically owned by Warner Bros.
So maybe when the speedster that jobs to regular hitman beats a character who has literal wishing powers as one out of hundreds of abilities, they might be a little bias.
Oh, and Batman/Bruce Wayne has been featured like 5 times, and Wonder Woman being featured 3 times too. The former only losing before the buyout and to Black Panther, and the latter only losing once before the buyout too.
>time traveler with future tech beats a dude with a shotgun and baseball bat
>vee is mad about for somereason
tf2gays are delusional. Tracer v Scout is one of the few DB that made sense
toon > tech
Well here are a few points.
1. The Tech part doesn’t really matter as much as people think, and especially not when it involves volatile characters who could kill each other quickly having fire arms and all. What matters more is what the technology does. For Tracer, it gives her a psuedo teleport/minor heal with plasma based weapons and some protection (but not much since she’s still frail). Scout, depite having late 1960s tech can double jump and vibrate fast to phase through bullets.
If you set TF2 in the future with Scout having the same kit but Future, the outcome wouldn’t change because what technology does is more important than when it comes from.
It’s also not like Tracer is just immune to 1960s bullets because she’s from the future. She can get hurt by low tech or non-tech things in game like just being punched in the face or hit by scrap shotguns.
2. Like mentioned before, Tracer and Scout are extremely volatile and glass cannons by nature. I doubt that Tracer could survive a full shotgun blast at point blank range or Scout survive a volley of energy shots, which is where actual discussion should take place, since it would be a quick blow.
Yeah, Tracer can heal herself naturally, and Scout can heal himself with medkits/supply or even become invincible, but the healing really wouldn’t matter and Scout could only retreat with Bonk.
3. With that being said, what people would need to find out which ranges both characters win at, and how both characters either achieve or maintain such positioning.
In this case, Scout easily wins close range because he has a fricking shotgun, while Tracer would win medium range because Scout has a shotgun and a crappy pistol. Neither would win long range since they couldn’t hit each other that far away and would just easily take cover.
Knowing this, how does Scout get close enough to Tracer to get a hit off? How would Tracer keep her distance and dodge Scout’s shots?
4. If the object of Scout is to close in on Tracer and Tracer’s was to keep a medium range, Scout more than likely wins.
A while back, someone actually compared Scout and Tracer’s ingame speed and converted them into real life units, and it was found that Scout was actually faster than Tracer. This was many years ago but I’m pretty sure it still applies. If Scout approaches Tracer, he will eventually catch up to her before she can run back.
When you put Tracer’s rewind and Scouts double jump+faster speed, Scout can manuver around in his approach than Tracer can when keeping her distance. That Rewind has a cooldown for Tracer and she really can only retreat with it once given its limitations. Scout on the other hand has constant speed and will always have the ability to double jump, which can completely change his momentum to dodge Tracer’s shots.
But let’s say Tracer does get the upperhand and is about to beat Scout. Scout could always retreat himself as that speed also applies to retreating. When he does, he can heal himself to bring the match to neutral state again.
5. The most controversial part of the episode is how DB calculated Tracer’s reaction time. They used a part from one of the OW1 trailers, and it’s the part where Tracer dodge’s Widow Maker’s shot.
This is a whole lot of bullshit for one thing, which is the fact that the trailer makes it explicitly clear Tracer reacts to Widow Maker pointing a gun to her, rather than the actual trigger pulling.
This is a common trend in DB where an attack is clearly telegraphed even in their examples, but they measure the speed of their reaction from the moment the attack fires until the attack barely misses the character.
Yeah, it would be harder to measure when she realized someone was pointing a gun at her, especially in slow motion, and there wasn’t really any other feat they could have taken, but was still incredibly dumb how they measured Tracer’s reaction speed.
holy autism, just say you wanted your favorite character to win
raiden losing to whoever the frick that nobody is would cause more butthurt and that's the only deciding factor to choosing who will win.
Well, Raiden has zero chance of winning.
And this is the toned down version of Warframes. In game you get to be mega broken. It is simply not fair to compare Raiden to space age bioweapon platforms with ''superpowers''.
t. never played MGR
Raiden will die if his head is cut meanwhile the Excalibur can just revive.
Come back when you've played MGR, homosexual.
>Raiden will die if his head is cut meanwhile the Excalibur can just revive.
Didn't you play through The War Within? wait no, did you WATCH the first cinematic?
Remind me when Raiden's head was cut in half at any point in Rising
It wasn't because he's not a moron that lets his head get cut off lmao get dunked on rrraaaaahhh
t. never played Warframe
homie, you never do anything in Warframe that comes even close to the shit Raiden does.
>Never blew up a starship with his sword
You're one dumb motherfricker
Raiden is a sissy b***h. Excal is a weapons platform that can function in the vacuum of space, in dense gravitational fields, in extreme heat, can slice and dodge bullets, has a plasma blade and can also generate plasma bursts ontop of all the weapons available ontop of everything that is available. Did i mention the Tenno piloting the warframe platform? Stop being such weebs. Raiden is a shit choice cus he is a weak gayget.
t. never played Warframe and never farmed and made op builds that one shots anything just take tigris and raiden is dead with single pellet lmao what a pussy
>warframe sponsors an episode
>warframe wins
WOOOOOOOOOW
Seriously why did they feed Raiden to this fricking shit game
Warframes are just super OP even in the world of Warframe. You need some super seyan/OPM bullshit to actually fight Warframes. And oyu can't really win unless you find where is the Tenno piloting the frame. He'll just keep coming back again and again and again.
in that game they keep giving new enemies some kind of anti warframe field where you cant use warframe and have to get off your suit and go in physically with operator mode to break the device
I mean it make sense lorewise and sound cool but its fricking dumb and chore to play
>Warframes are just super OP even in the world of Warframe
>Citing an in-universe comic
>Somehow stacking capeshit with sci-fi bullshit
You're ignorant, Warframe is thousands of years ahead of Raiden technologically speaking.
Warframe is for paypig homosexuals so I don't care.
I honestly cannot thing of a single f2p game that is less p2w than warframe. There is nothing in the game that you cannot farm and acquire without paying. You can make end game builds without giving a single cent and you can actually get the in game premium currency by selling stuff you farm for free. The only end game money buys you is the fashion end game.
nta but i've had friends who played warframe mostly to game the market and scam kids and still did well for themselves while spending nothing or close to nothing on the game itself. player trading of items that cost exclusive currency is a defining mechanic that a lot of these microtransaction games do not have.
Wouldn't Konami have the right to file a lawsuit against them for making their character look bad?
I don't understand why no one has tried it. I certainly would.
>check the channel
>it's real
Didn't they already have Raiden in one of these?
yes, he turned Wolverine into mincemeat
Honestly Raiden vs Wolverine and Snake vs Sam are still probably my favorite animations they've done.
My main problem with this is not that Excaliuber wins or the sponsor cause frick it people got to eat I understand that but why use Raiden and not someone like the Overwatch ninja fricker?
Genji is for Zer0
>why use Raiden
Excal is the ''sword'' warframe and Raiden is the sword guy. Also since they've already did work with Raiden this means that he was easier to work with since less new material was needed.
If Raiden won i'd call bullshit.
MGR memes are popular. Their views and sub-count weren't making enough money and losing relevancy fast. They've taken on the YouTuber model of making content related to current popular media so YouTube's algorithm doesn't bury them. It's often pretty pathetic stomp matches solely to ride the algorithm or contentious matches that they can't truly solve but pretend to anyway so people will argue in the comments. It's funny and sad
the worst example is:
>New season of attack on titan is pretty close to our series, exposure + algorithm
>Death battle presents: Our catgirl with magic, superhuman strength, semi-automatic gun/sword/chain scythe, and a natural forcefield that makes her virtually unkillable
vs
>a slightly superhuman with easily disabled grappling hooks, sword, pistol, and RPG who will die from a single bullet or shrapnel.
>Who would win!?
They became what they denounced in Deadpool vs. Mask. Youtube's fault. They don't even get excited about hosting it anymore.
I don't know if you're describing Levi Ackerman here and i've never watched this channel but he actually will not die from one bullet, shrapnel, or apparently even a mini-nuke detonated directly in his face. If anyone makes Levi die from something so simple they did not read or watch AoT
I think it's Blake vs Mikasa?
Mikasa deserves to die then
Is your only expierience with attack on titan "Levi being badass" compilations on youtube?
>will not die from one bullet
yes, yes he will. Levi spent an arc running from kenny because kenny had a gun. Guns don't scale with stregth. head, heart, leg arm, Levi loses to any bullet that would kill a normal person, he'd probably die slower at best but he wouldn't be able to move.
>shrapnel
Yes, yes he would. anything pierces his body the right way ends him. A rock launched like shrapnel permanently scared Mikasa's face. Levi is no different
> or apparently even a mini-nuke detonated directly in his face.
Thunderspears are grenades. Nukes are comparable to a titan transformation blast or colossal titan steam, which made Levi or Mikasa vs Bert impossible.
Levi only survived the thunder spear explosion because Hanji Nursed him back to health. someone saved from dying from a grenade can't be described as being able to survive it.
levi can literally dodge bullets my man
to be honest i stopped giving a frick soon after the ending sucked mega balls
and the fact that you still care enough to theorize like this makes you a gay dork
>levi can literally dodge bullets my man
He can't dodge bullets. If he's standing still and a bullet is fired at home he can't move faster than the bullet can travel to hit them. he can, however, react to and maneuver around the position of the shooter to make them miss their shot. "Dodging" in the same way as someone who ducks and runs for cover, Which is what Levi did. A lot.
>care enough to theorize
This isn't theorizing. I'm right.
> the fact that you still care enough
I don't care. I was talking about death battle. You're the one who cared enough to talk about Levi specifically. Seems like you're not over Attack on Titan.
nobody ever says shit about what the thunderspears actually are in canon, you are theorizing homosexual. i said fallout-style mini-nuke as an exaggeration that technically hasn't been proven false.
Heracles vs Sun Wukong was pretty good at least.
That one is pretty cool. I never knew how deep the sun wukong lore went.
Damn right that was kino. Felt like one from the good ole days, had heart and creativity. I skip most of the matches but stay subscribed for fights like that.
All I ask is a season without Marvel or DC homosexualry shitting things up. We get it, the big 2 are fricking moronic, give us something else.
Someone on Ganker keeps shilling for pulp Tarzan vs pulp Conan, I'd watch it.
I still want
>Luffy vs Naruto
>Plastic Man vs Reed Richards
>Megatron vs. Frieza
>Unicron vs. Galactus.
>Plas vs Reed
Reed wins if he gets all his one off gadgets, Plastic Man stomps otherwise because he's a far stronger shapeshifter.
And he can turn into a bicycle.
Usually, they tend to favor generally stronger characters, not those who can get off one lucky shot with a counter.
And yes, he better turn into a bike in the actual fight
>Usually, they tend to favor generally stronger characters, not those who can get off one lucky shot with a counter.
I mean that's kind of the issue though. Reed stretches, yeah, but that's always just been kind of a side thing. His real power as always been being the smartest man in the Marvel universe, and all the crazy inventions that come with that. A Reed fight without any crazy tech just wouldn't really be fair to the character. But that goes into another issue where Reed doesn't exactly have a set in stone arsenal either. Do you give him everything? Some things? Just things he'd probably have around his lab? Do you let him use the ultimate nullfier?
Then why does Reed constantly frick up?
Because it makes for a convenient starting point for a story.
Generally, yeah, he would be armed to the teeth. Maybe make the fight have Plastic Man breaking into the Baxter Building then?
Doesn't the Ultimate Nullifer belong to Galactus?
iirc, Reed has never actually used it. Just threatened to use it to scare Galactus off?
True, but I think they've given characters things under flimsier pre-tenses.
Off the top of my head they let Harry use the killing curse because it was implied he could learn it. Granted it didn't help him.
Give me a Professor X vs Martian Manhunter fight that takes place entirely on the Astral Plane.
If Martian Manhunter he manages to break out of the mental battle of wills he's stuck in with Xavier and just pushes him down some stairs.
I like the way you think
>not demanding kino cripple fight of Xavier vs Niles Caulder
For shame
Not the first time they capitilize on the popularity of a franchise, relativelly new (you know scout vs tracer)
What the frick are you talking about?
Just looked up Snake vs Sam. This is so fricking stupid.
>gun karate is cringe as frick
>Sam being able to CQC Snake
>Snake being a ninja that can dodge machinegun fire with backflips
>Sam "destroys the data" by shooting a fricking monitor as opposed to the PC itself
>Otacon hacks into their server and makes their monitors fricking explode
fricking stupid
Raiden vs Wolverine was a stomp and they still got some stuff wrong anyway Raiden can't cut adamantium, that's not how his sword works. He could still easily rip Wolverine apart though because only his bones are metal, nothing else.
>No "WHY WONT YOU DIE?" from Raiden after Wolverine keeps regenerating
Death Battle wrong outcomes:
>Yang vs Tifa
>Kirby vs Buu
>Cloud vs Link 1
>Thor vs Vegeta
>Ganondorf vs Bowser
>Guts vs Nightmare
>Hiei vs Sasuke
>Reverse Flash vs Goku Black
>Johnathan vs Tanjiro
>Mario vs Sonic 2
>Doomsday vs Hulk
>Thor vs Wonder Woman
>Sanji vs Rock Lee
>Spiderman vs Batman
Thor Vs Vegeta was right unless you’re a Comicvine homosexual who thinks that Thor is sewage wires level.
Reverse Flash vs Goku Black is right too, so is Doomsday vs Hulk, Thor vs Wonder Woman, and especially Spiderman vs Batman.
>Thor vs Vegeta was right
Nope. All their reasons for why Thor wins was bullshit, such as God Blast being able to kill Galactus. First off, Galactus gets BTFO on consistent basis, dude is a fricking jobber and also Thor's God Blast feat they were referencing had outside help. Thor was just an assist and there was no confirmation it would actually kill a well fed, multiverse-tier Galactus. Also him "knocking out the Phoenix force" when in the next exact page it shows Phoenix Force wasn't affected and Thor gets one-shotted. All of their feats and calculations for Thor was wrong. Meanwhile current Vegeta scales above all the shit Goku did prior to the current arc which makes him moronicly strong, even on par with a lot of Marvel multiversal-tier characters.
>Reverse Flash vs Goku Black is right too
Reverse Flash can't hurt or kill Goku Black, he doesn't have the attack potency or means to do it. Reverse Flash has been BTFO by much weaker opposition.
Not that anon but they explicitly take ONLY high ends into account and Hickman confirmed Thor did knock the Phoenix out
>only take high ends into account
I'm not of the anti-DB guys but no they don't. At least not always, they break their own rules about taking high ends/compositing characters/contradicting character lore all the fricking time in their analysis and outcomes. Also no, Thor has never canonically knocked out the Phoenix Force. In fact in the next exact panel/page Thor himself was the one that got b***hsmacked in one shot, it was funny.
I'm just going by what the writer said. Authorial intent means something no? The Phoenix got a literal hole blasted through it by Thor and it went to a planet and ate it for sustenance is what it looked like to me
>quattuoroctogintillion
What the frick is this number?
10^257
Why stop there? You people love inflating power levels so much so why limit yourself? It says centillions and not tens or hundreds of centillions so you have 2-9 to use. Use 9. And instead of making them a giant bag of human beings with no space in between make them 100 meters away from one another see what that nets you. I mean that's what you want, right?
>seethe
God Blast being able to kill Galactus is notable since that was Lee-Kirby Galactus, who wasn’t as much as a jobber as he is now. Thor actually *did* knock out the Phoenix Force, it just was knocked onto a planet that it consumed after being knocked out just by passively being by it, allowing it to regain consciousness and BTFO Thor with the amp it just received from that planet’s life force.
>All of their feats and calculations for Thor was wrong
Completely false lol.
Even if you want to say ‘oh he’s billions of times stronger than these characters who are universal’, Marvel Universes are 311 quattuoroctogintillion times the size of our own (pic related). Get fricked.
>Reverse Flash can't hurt or kill Goku Black, he doesn't have the attack potency or means to do it.
He can fight the Flash who could destroy the Multiverse by running fast enough, and he can alternatively phase Goku Black’s brain out of his body for an instant win. Him being killed doesn’t matter since alternate versions of himself still alive can time travel to the point of his death and keep fighting. Get fricked.
>Universe measurements
OH
FRICKING
BOY
>quattuoroctogintillion
This is why no one takes power level homosexuals seriously.
this is literally the one and only time i've EVER seen the number centillions used in fiction kek
>quattuoroctogintillion
Do Gankergays really?
Post the DC one where they take a misunderstanding of the initial expansion of the big bang and use the most popular model of the big bang's expansion despite the values being completely incompatible and THEN using a page from upwards of half a century ago saying there's some bigger universe outside the DC universe and that the planet Earth is an atom in that universe to somehow bloat the volume even more
Ego was the one that repulsed Galactus in that God Blast feat Death Battle was talking about. It wasn't a Thor feat. It was an Ego and Thor feat outside help feat so it doesn't count. Also Galactus is inconsistent in every run, even in the same storyline his power fluctuates wildly. You'd have to confirm a multiversal tier Galactus in the context of when a feat happened for it to actually be impressive.
Nta; off the top of my head Oblivion arranged for Galactus to fight the Other and he was confident that their clash would destroy the entire multiverse (Oblivion being a nega counterpart of the living Multiverse Eternity), does that count in your book?
Nope, you have to confirm Galactus is multiversal in the very moment when a feat is happening, which can't be done for that Thor feat. And even if he was, Thor had outside help which doesn't count. If a fricking planet can affect that Galactus that much, it's pretty much confirmed he was not multiversal then. Because Ego himself is nowhere near that level of power to even affect a being of that tier. Also yeah I can tell you dudes don't read comics. You can never really gauge how strong Galactus is because even in the same exact comic he can get BTFO by a weakling at any moment, it's just how Marvel works.
>you have to confirm Galactus is multiversal in the very moment when a feat is happening
Your moronic criteria makes absolutely no sense. If a character can survive a planet exploding, and then in another chapter, some other character completely splatters the former character with a punch, they would logically be planet level. Likewise, Galactus being able to completely nuke universes even when weakened is significant, since Thor was about to kill him.
>Thor had outside help
The feat literally had Thor use the Godblast and then Galactus fled because he would have died. *Nowhere* in that span did Ego do ANYTHING.
>hurr durrr you don’t read comics
homosexual.
>a planet can affect a multiversal Galactus to that extent dude trust meeee
Nope. Ego is not strong enough to repulse Galactus if Galactus was multiversal at that moment. Also yes, outside help matters. Also yes, you don't read comics because you don't know the context for each panel. It's actually hilarious.
Ego is a living planet who wields raw energy
Lol. Black person you need to stop equivocating, it's bad for the soul and mind. the literal writer said Thor KO'd the bird and that's that I'm afraid. nothing hyperbolic or flowery about that like with your stupid example of Odin not being omnipotent
that just seems needlessly contrived and for the purposes of these discussions you'd need to make clear you're doing for example "Thor from issue 323 from the volume 1 vs Vegeta from the episode 23 of Super"
It was a Thor feat because his Godblast was the thing that Galactus thought he was going to die from moron.
>Galactus is inconsistent
In Lee-Kirby’ FF literal pieces of Galactus were said to be able to nuke entire universes. Get fricked.
>Thor actually did knock out Phoenix Force
It was shown right after that attack that Thor was actually the one that shitted on. And Phoenix Force was not even really damaged by what he did. That feat is actually an anti-feat, the complete opposite of trying to make Thor look impressive. Context is everything.
>ignoring the fact that the Phoenix Force had to consume an entire planet just to do that
The writer literally said that Thor knocked it out. GET FRICKED.
If Thor knocked it out, it wouldn't have been able to do anything or even affect a fricking planet. Knocking out means putting someone to sleep/completely incapacitating them. If it can move after an attack it's not knocked out. Also Thor was the one that got absolutely SLAPPED by the Phoenix Force, not the other way around. Literally in the next page. It's funny how you cherrypick and ignore context to wank Thor, one of the most consistent jobbers in comic history right up there with Galactus.
Writers or even narratives can't always be taken as absolutes in a vs debate. Because 1) humans have biases and make mistakes. 2) Even narration or writing can be inconsistent or shit such as Odin being described by the narration as omnipotent when he clearly wasn't.
Thor knocked it into the planet, and the planet was destroyed and consumed by its fall, since it’s literally a fiery cosmic entity made out of pure telekinetic energy. The author said Thor knocked it out, but the Phoenix was amped by the planet Thor knocked it to and then it beat Thor.
Ego never helped Thor in that instance. Thor used the Godblast, Galactus fled because he was going to die. That’s the feat, nowhere in that span did Ego do fricking anything.
QUATTUOROCTOGONAPUS BWAAAA
>Batman VS Spider-Man
>Wrong
?
>Spider-Man vs Batman
Batman is a normal human. Spider-Man is superhuman. He has no real advantage to press, and no real weak point to exploit. Batman wins if you give him some bullshit one off armor, but standard Batman gets destroyed.
Also you forgot Pikachu vs Blanka.
How is Reverse vs Black wrong? What the hell could GB have done?
Gee I don't know blow up the fricking planet?
>GB dies because Saiyan bodies can't survive in space
>RF comes back to life eventually anyway
Good luck with that when someone who's infinitely faster than you can faze through your body and take out your brain or heart
Reverse is nowhere near as strong as GB. GB was downplayed and Reverse was wanked.
>infinitely faster than you
means nothing, speedsters always get tagged by stupid shit. GB would blitz and overpower Reverse Flash.
>Antifeats
Death Battle and most DCgays who are into power levels usually ignore the fact that DC's high tiers bend the knee to Batman and other street level characters 24/7.
That's kind of the issue with capeshit, isn't it? You're allowed to pull out whatever one off bullshit feat, totally not exaggerated line of dialogue, or nonsense scaling you want, but the moment you show a character jobbing everyone jumps at you.
Which is funny because capeshit has so much jobbing that it makes professional wrestling look honest.
>Reverse is nowhere near as strong as GB. GB was downplayed and Reverse was wanked.
They literally say in the conclusion that GB is vastly more powerful than RF, but it doesn't matter because they're both immortal, GB's immortality is way easier to remove, and RF is infinitely fast enough to take off the ring.
They said Reverse Flash was billions of times stronger moron
>They said Reverse Flash was billions of times stronger moron
Faster, not stronger. Black is universal, while Reverse isn't even planetary. Reverse ruins universes by trolling everyone and ruining their lives; he can't literally blow them up to nonexistence like Black can.
They said he scaled to an entire DC universe which they put at billions x universal. It’s in the episode.
Power scaling is why death battle is almost always wrong.
With WHAT? The IM punch? The one that is star-level, at best? They literally say at the beginning of the conclusion that Black's attacks completely dwarf Reverse's, but then later they say some shit about "having enough energy to hold the universe together", even though holding shit together is NOT an attack, and there has been zero demonstration of him using that "universal power" against an actual enemy.
They said that Goku Black > that particular IMP. However, in some Pre Crisis comic he was capable of nuking the entire Universe by doing some shit to his and Barry’s Speed Force aura. So they used that and scaled the DC Universes’ size to billions of times the normal size, and said Reverse Flash was billions x Universal.
Every one of them is wrong except for
>Goku vs Superman
>Ben vs Hal
i have seen green lantern get knocked out by tripping and hitting his head on a chair
>literal who vs. popular character
>literal who is blatantly far more powerful so it just seems like they picked popular character to shit on him and get views since no one gives a frick about literal who
>episode also sponsored by the creators of literal who
Wow so interesting. Really good matchup there.
Replace Spiderman vs Batman with Toph vs Gaara.
I love it when literal whos kill a popular character especially if it's a DC or Dragonball one but this one sucks because of the shilling.
Don't forget
>Predator (elite) vs Boba Fett
>Jotaro vs Kenshiro
>Ryu vs Scorpion
>DIO vs Alucard
Mario vs Sonic 1 was actually the wrong one, though, and Jonathan vs Tanjiro is correct.
how is Jotaro VS Kenshiro wrong?
This. Kenshiro is old shonen bullshit dialed to 11.
they downplayed the ever living shit out of Kenshiro
Sonic beats Mario.
t. Grew up on NES, didn't touch a Sega game until GCN.
>he doesn't have spider-sense
>boba fett of all has 360 vision (closest to "sensing" danger)
SpiderCHADS will never be beaten (especially TobeyCHADS)
>Didn't they already have Raiden in one of these?
They've had Shadow the Hedgehog three times. Batman FOUR times. Repeat battles are nothing new for them.
I'm surprised they didn't bring Kratos back yet
Have batman ever won any of these? I think I saw him losing like twice and his power level yo-yos all the time in this series.
He's won once, against Captain America. And lost against Spiderman, Black Panther, and Iron Man. Yes, they unironically pitted him against Iron Man. They had to give him an ultimate Gary Stu mechsuit that he used in exactly one comic and never again just to make the fight last more than 10 seconds.
Idk anything about Warframe but Raiden's gonna win because MGR memes are popular right now
Speaking of death battle, hope they bring back saitama for another match because goddamn his feat strength just boosted him the frick out in the last few chapters.
qrd?
>not Jetstream Sam
dropped
Unless Excalibur has impenetrable skin like Armstrong's nanomachine coated skin, Raiden can easily slice through Excalibur.
Warframes are not "living" per say and cannot "die" per say,they have extreme resilience to damage and the take used to make them is basically warp bullshit mixed with the flood and each one of the is a one man army that could topple an interstellar empire. Raiden cannot win this.
Then this is just Deadpool V The Mask all over again. There is no way raiden can win, why bother having this match at all other than his name still being somewhat relevant
I want you to truly appreciate the amount of bullshit tech the people that made the warframes have.
Wonna know how the achieved FTL? They discovered the Void (see:the Warp) a realm where our understanding of physics breaks down and where every quantum possibility exists at the same time without cancelling each other out by your observation. The first time they opened a Void portal (Warp portal) they came in contact with the Indeffierence (Chaos god) a sentient cosmic entity whose motives are entirely unknow. In their effort to not let it escape the Void they closed the portal while it was attempting to come through it. When the portal closed it managed to sever a finger from this entity which at that moment chose to have a physical body. The finger that stayed behind was a Void quantum anomaly in our space that at the same time existed and didn't exist and gave off infinite amounts of Void energy. So what did they do. They contained that finger into a power generator called a reliquary drive which then they replicated and installed in all they ships. Because the finger is an anomaly it both existed and didn't exist in all the reliquary drives so they managed to power entire fleets with the iuse of a single finger from space satan that shouldn't even have a physical form to begin with but chose to do so on first contact.
Warframes were once humans infected with a nanite virus that went out of control called the Tenocyte virus. The nanites are capable of controlling and repurposing both organic and inorganic matter and given their nature as a self replicating techological nanite swarm they can directly take control of A.I.s and technologies and make them do what they want as a swarm.
Warframes are basically a mass of that nanite swarm that can live in all their "cells". Blow them apart and you can gather up all the pieces and remake them no problem. Blow out an internal organ and they have no intrinsic need for it in order to remain functional. (cont.)
(cont.)
The nanite swarm will simply use another organ in its stead to remain functional while it repairs the old organ. Unless you perform total atomization on a Warframe you simply cannot kill it.
The Warframes are also powered by Void batteries so they basically have infinite energy only limited by how much their bodies can handle to put out at any given moment. And their abilities are utter bullshit.
Excalibur for example can become invincible for a brief moment while dashing forward enveloped in a shell of void energy,can produce a flashbang so powerful that it even blinds robots,manifest javelins out of pure energy into thin air that bypass defenses and impale targets into walls out from their blindspots and finally he has a build in lightsaber that there is no defense against.
That is the thing. He never "killed" any warframe. Warframes that the Stalker "kills" can merely be retrieved and remade. He only managed to render them non functional for the time being and you can always make more Warframes so his Stalking amount to nothing.
So for all intents and purposes in death battle what counts as a win? completely disablind the warframe or killing the operator?
An Operator cannot under any circumstances be killed. Operators have themselves basically become quantum anomalies themselves that cannot be erased from existence. Even if you "kill" an Operator the void will simply spew out another instance of that same Operator that didn't get killed as it happened in the New War. The Drifter was basically a version of the Operator that did not get captured and killed by Ballas and the Void manifested that possibility of the Operator into real space. Raiden cannot win this unless the ruling is render the Warframe non functional. He has a chance there.
>Raiden cannot win this unless the ruling is render the Warframe non functional.
I am pretty sure that's the rule this time around.
Then he has a very slight chance if he can do a surprise attack on the Warframe because he will absolutely not be winning against the Operator.
Why would the operator not be part of the waframe's toolkit? The space magic child is there in the background making the fight happen and willing to come out if anything looks rough with bs magic shit.
Because at that point you are putting a very high tech but limited cyborg against an eldritch cosmic entity in human form that under no circumstances can be killed or be rendered non functional and that is counter productive if you want to keep tension for your show.
The fact they chose these two was the first mistake. There's no way the operator stays out of the fight if this actually happened which is what is supposed to be what they are going for.
>The fact they chose these two was the first mistake
Agreed. It is like putting a stone age fisherman's wood dingy against an air plane carrier.
I think it's being sponsored by DE
>Deadpool V The Mask
whats the point of including cartoon physics characters?
The whole episode was just a meta joke poking fun at themselves, with the in-universe explanation being that they really just wanted to kill Deadpool.
Cartoon physics characters is actually pretty interesting to talk about since they bypass a lot of the standard powerlevel autism. You need a specific matchup to ever have a chance to win against them
Stalker can behead them and that seems enough to take them out of commission.
Still waiting on this actually
for the record, alex would body the frick out of cole
Up close yeah Alex would probably smack him silly but I actually think Cole could do it if he keeps his distance and keeps up the lighting attacks cause they're strong enough to hurt the Beast who took a damn nuke to the face and just walked it off.
I don't see Cole getting away from Alex, dude is nowhere near fast enough to keep distance between the two.
>they're strong enough to hurt the Beast who took a damn nuke to the face and just walked it off.
Nah, Cole had to be amped to do any meaningful damage to the Beast and the nuke straight up took the Beast down and forced it to reform itself.
2 dead franchises. not happening ever
Anon they used fricking Bucky O Hare. They can do Cole v Alex
Cole wins this actually
People wank Alex with his "tanked a nuke" feat but he got reduced to a pile of pulp when he was nowhere near the epicenter and only came back because a bird tried to feed on his remains whereas Cole was able to consistently hurt The Beast, who actually tanked a nuke
The Beast didn't tank shit. It got destroyed and had to reform itself inside the city. And Cole had to be amped to do any significant damage to the Beast.
He was staggered and teleported into the city several minutes later. And even if it did destroy him entirely, he was still able to reform himself within moments which still gives him better durability than Alex's laughable "nuke-tanking" feat.
Even discounting RFI amplification, Cole was still able to deal substantial damage to The Beast at the beginning of inFamous 2 and killed The Behemoth, who tanked a ray sphere explosion at point-blank.
What happened to Pepsiman?
>it's not even Excalibur prime
Still a little peeved they did Bowser dirty like that
was Yang vs Tifa actually bullshit?
They themselves admitted they butchered Tifa's stats heavily and she would actually bully Yang so...
>was the animators OC Donut steal character beating a woman who can suplex planitary defense systems rigged?
I dunno moron what do you think?
who would be a good opponent for pic related? i'm thinking the vessel form hollow knight would be fair, kirby lore bullshit aside
>insect size insect
That feels horribly badly matched unless dream nail frickery or shade lord is involved.
They'd probably just size him up, Kirby was sized up a bit to make the Buu fight make more sense.
Shadow. Ryuko didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus just to give Shadow a pity win after being humiliated by Bejita and Mewtwo. Borb should give him what he deserves
How will Soulgays react to Universal Chosen Undead do to linking the fire? Cause one of the main researchers do believe it makes him universal.
Isn't chosen undead in the end Shoul of Cinder?
Fortunately the show is usually pretty good about shutting down some of the more moronic claims of the shitty research team.
Still doesn't stop all moronation (planck speed Thor), but it keeps out a lot of it.
Lorewise, Elder Scrolls is several magnitudes stronger than anything in Dark Souls. Gwyn wouldn't even be on the level of most Daedric Princes.
>Kino mythological, vague Dark Souls
vs
>Soulless, capeshit esque power level wankery Elder Scrolls
Based, I hope DaS loses so it can retain its sovl.
Dark Souls isn't that vague when it comes to how strong most of its characters are. Gwyn was strong enough to usher in a new age of Fire/Light, but not strong enough to actually maintain it. He was also afraid of Humans for no discernable reason other than they had potential to end his reign or something. Comparatively the Divines and heroes that mantle them usher in new ages all the time and their age must be forcibly usurped by someone nearly as powerful, or more powerful, than them for that age to end.
>Gwyn was strong enough to usher in a new age of Fire/Light, but not strong enough to actually maintain it.
Ah I see, so that means Gwyn has between 200 Megafricks to 3 Gigafricks of battle power... impressive.......
God imagine being so fricking stupid that you try to look for power levels in a fricking metaphor about the rise and fall of empires and the nature of entropy. Jesus Christ.
Wait, are you actually that mad over nothing?
I have a low tolerance for autistic powerlevel gays.
TES is not what I would call capeshit, at least when you get into gross displays of magical power. It's bog standard high fantasy in that regard, until you get into writing people out of existence and warping reality but is that really capeshit?
Warframe going's to win anyway. Who would you want to appear in a vidya death battle. Mine is pic rel.
What a waste of everyone's time, didn't Raiden have better opponents?
Same, based Batterbro
I hate whenever people bring up Frisk. The entire point is that she's a normal ass kid who just so happens to be shoved into a world of monsters where said monsters can be killed by just hating them enough and where having enough will power just lets you time travel. Pretty much anyone that isn't an Undertale character would completely destroy Frisk.
Yeah but she has resets and Death Battle would wank her to keep up, besides, it's the only good matchup for both
>DB really banking on memes of the month instead of good content?
Yes, it's not even the first time
>spoil the outcome
It comes out tomorrow
He can tank the whole Undertale universe except Asriel who can reset time itself and is a more powerful god than Hugo and the Judge.
Asriel can't reset with Frisk around and Photographic Blur ignores durability anyway
I heard one of them thinks Luz is a star buster
That feels like a curb stomp, grim would be better, but I feel like grim would curb stomp in that case.
Considering that Grimm snacks on souls of Outer Gods like fish & chips, he'll curbstomp about anyone
Laughed audibly at seeing this. Luka would stomp him though.
Pac-Man
Most of the fights I want include a Ganker character.
>Samus vs Master Chief (they're definitely doing Chief vs Doomslayer 2)
>Henry Cooldown vs Satsuki Kiryuin
>Adachi vs Yoshikage Kira
>Liu Kang vs Jago
>Vergil vs Sesshomaru
>Travis Touchdown vs someone cool
>Agent 47 vs Golgo 13 Apparently they're going to use Wick on Bond later this season
Oh they definitely will next season, and they'll make him fight Dante.
>not TJ vs Balrog
Ew.
They're gonna save that meme for Armstrong vs Funny Valentine.
>Funny Valentine
Please no. I actually like powerlevel autism and he is a bit too bullshit to ever consider seriously, like at all.
>Armstrong vs Funny Valentine
Why? And also, Valentine has no real ways of killing Armstrong. Despite Swan's wank, JoJo characters aren't all that much greater than a peak human. Funny wouldn't be able to do anything about Nanomachines, and Armstrong wouldn't be able to see or hurt D4C, making the fight a stalemate.
>JoJo characters aren't all that much greater than a peak human.
Yeah Batman could easily beat up a stand user in a one on one fight.
So fricking moronic, I hate these fricking threads so god damn much.
Same
Depends on the stand user. Top tier stands have some insane bullshit. No one thinks that anything short of Demonbane or God himself could defeat GER. That's not the point, though, since Giorno, Gappy, Jotaro, etc are all just a bit more than the peak of human fitness. They can die to well placed bullets, they don't have particularly thick skin since they bleed from just about every attack, and stands don't usually augment physical feats.
I'm a huge JoJo-gay and even I know that JJBA is massively overwanked. None of the characters are FTL, none of them are even close to mach 10. Even a revolver can take down peak fitness JoJo characters like Gyro Zeppeli. They really are not that strong.
Jojo is in a weird spot because stands can be busted as frick but stand users are just human for the most part.
Doesn't valentine have a way of just straight up zero-summing people with his power? Doesn't seem like durability would mean shit there nanomachines or not.
t. haven't read part 7 since a bit after it first finished
TERRARIAN
vs
STEVE
One of the few remaining season finale worthy battles.
R.I.P. Steve, he will be missed
It'd be a fun match, though. Steve has massive strength advantages over Terrarian, but Terrarian has mobility, durability, and versatility. Their abilities would just lend to an awesome battle even if we all know who wins.
I don’t want a character per say, but rather a more Meta battle.
In this case, 2 playable characters that are absurdly broken in their Metagame environment.
In this case, Javier from Advance Wars vs 6 Pure Hackmons Eternatus-Eternamax on an Advance Wars map that has a frick load Comm Towers.
In case you don’t know, Javier is a CO who specializes in Comm Towers. A property in Advance Wars DS that normally increases your Army’s Firepower by 10% for each one captured. Javier gets 10% Firepower and Defense for each Comm Tower he captures.
This makes him normally top tier on standard maps because Def in AW is more like a power decrease for your opponent. If you have say 50% Defense, your opponent will only do Half damage to you.
If Javier Get 10 Comm towers, his army is 100% unkillable now.
In Pure Hackmon Eternatus-Eternamax’s case, it has an absurd amount of bulk. So absurd that with the right nature and EVs, Eternatus’s stats wrap around and can have 0 Def or 0 SpD.
This seems like shit, but Pokemon’s damage calculations will have it so that Eternatus will only take 2 HP of damage (keep in mind, this thing has Blissey’s HP stat as well) from one side, unless it’s fixed damage.
Also, in case you didn’t know, Pure Hackmon is basically Pokemon Anarchy the Meta. You can do literally anything you want that can be done though hacking the game. It’s how you can even use Eternatus-Eternamax. You can also give it literally any moves you want, any abilities you want, and any max out all your EVs. Eternatus and Weezing (rather its signature ability) of all Pokemon ruined Gen 8 Pure Hackmons because Eternatus-Eternamax with Neutralizing Gas was that fricking broken, forcing all teams to run OHKO moves.
I have never watched any of these, so I have no actual idea what they are or how they are presented
Vidya Death Battle peaked with Wario vs King Dedede, it literally doesn't get any better than that.
>tfw both of your characters are now completely irrelevant and will never got a DB
I don't even care who wins here. The fight alone would've been moronkino
>no proper zone of the enders video
They hate Mecha don't they?
Maybe Pat and Woolie just have to ask a few more times.
Turn-A would dust jehuty
Hmm..
things are about to get serious
Should be Duke Nukem vs Serious Sam really.
I'm more surprised they've never done a 3 way throw down with all the elastic powered people. Luffy, Mr. Fantastic and Plastic Man. Though from what I hear Plastic man is pretty broken. With the way Luffy is shaping up I wonder if the clear winner would still be the case.
Well, good on them for getting that Warframe dosh.
At least they won't have to bullshit fluff for their winning horse. Warframes are scary shit.
Raiden is probably stronger.
Excalibur is definitely tougher.
Raiden's sword is super science.
Excalibur's sword is super space magic. And science.
And if he feels like it, Excalibur's Tenno can just pop out and shoot double-magic.
Excalibur is a boring basic-ass b***h, though. Give me Mag, Valkyr, Hydros, or Oberon.
Miss me with those overpowered buttholes I see every mission.
Anyone have that thread where people discussed what Death Battle should do if they had 2 troon characters fight each other?
Just give me a touhou deathbattle I gotta know how weak or strong these b***hes are
Frick off moron. Touhou is too good for this shit and the lore is very explicitly designed in a major "frick power level homosexualry" way by having conflict resolution be done via duels where power doesn't matter.
Does goku beat heactia
They both lose to Droopy.
I agree Reimu is more powerful than Goku and Superman but power level homosexuals are mostly Ganker virgins who would ape out at you for insulting DC bullshit.
Would be incredibly hard because everyone's true power in touhou is kept pretty vague
One of the dudes dislikes Sakuya, so she's probably getting fed to Hit.
>One of the dudes dislikes Sakuya
Why?
Because she beats Dio
That's a moronic reason to hate a character.
If it's the same guy that wanked Dio up to being massively faster than light without time stop then he'd probably make her lose that fight anyway, since a Sakuya victory would hinge entirely on her superior time powers and making Dio that fast would let him just speed blitz her.
It is
isn't that just a rumor made by the tripgay in the Ganker threads?
They did.
Jojogays didn't take it very well.
One of the main researchers, Swan, had an autistic meltdown on the DB forums over the results of that match. He's harbored animosity towards Touhou ever since. He's also the one that said DIO is 1500x FTL and can punch harder than an atom bomb despite him only denting a road roller and needing to combine forces with Jotaro to destroy it
Sakuya definitely still wins even with those dumbass feats.
Her time manipulation abilities are straight up better than Dio’s in every possible way with Dio only matching her with his Heaven form (that was beat by Jotaro tricking him into killing himself).
Dio was even beaten by Star Platinum copying The World’s weak ass time stop, but you expect me to believe Sakuya with the ability stop, fast forward, rewind, and even control space itself would lose to Dio?
Hell, Adam Sandler with the Clicker he had could beat Dio unironically.
Does anyone have screenshots of this?
anon it's not real
Frick.
Now I want see Dio Vs Adam Sandler.
what a trash matchup, raiden can just slice him in two with his hi-frequency blade. not to mention, the warframe is useless without a little tenno homosexual piloting it, unless you want to count the anomaly that is umbra, but even then it's just like fighting a bestial suit of armor. either way, raiden has dealt with metal gears the size of buildings, not to mention senator armstrong, solidus snake, and hundreds if not thousands of genetically engineered super soldiers who were bred for combat. tennos are children with some space age mumbo jumbo powers that won't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
I can’t wait 4 all the butt-hurt Raiden getting his fem-boy cheeks clapped is going to generate.
>No ship vs ship battle
>No team vs team battle
>No army vs army battle where the army actually matters Eggman vs Wily was just a Metal Sonic jerk-off fest
>Took the death race suggestion and turned it into a joke series
Why is DB so uninspired?
>does goku vs superman
>goku loses
>fans mad af
>make a rematch video
>goku loses
are they the original trolls?
The second video was pure spite and a way for them to basically say "goku is never winning frick you Superman is the strongest fictional character ever", which is a moronic stance to take coming hot off the heels of a new wave of content but whatever.
Then not long after we got universal Goku with the anime adaptation.
Basically, it was a big "Shut the frick up we never want to do this matchup again so Superman is infinity times strong and fast and durable and he can never be beaten by anyone".
And then they have later characters that are scaled based on how the were able to fight against Superman, so so much for that.
'Superman holds back most of the time'
Optimus Vs Gundam and Obi-Wan Vs. Kekashi were the best videos.
>Marvel Transformers wank
>EU wank
No.
>IDW Transformers wank
>Disney EU wank
Yes.
well Megatron's fight against Frieza is going to get Japanese wank which puts him at multiversal if that's better
This kind of thing is so dumb because the arguments always inevitably devolve into "the character I like more would win"
>shill match for Chinese overlords
I hope Texas gets every fricking Commiefonian refugee for this bullshit
Goku Black vs Reverse Flash was a fun one
>"calculate" that Dio can go 1500x FTL
>and that's not even including the time stop
I don't know how anyone can possibly take these things seriously.
Don't forget that they extended that to Jonathan because he fought Dio in Part 1, saying that Jonathan was FTL, and was thus billions of times faster than Tanjiro
Most people that care have known for a while that speed calcs on Death Battle are really fricking bad.
I blame Scout vs Tracer for setting the original "bullet dodging" precedent for calculating speed. It was bullshit there too because Tracer wasn't reacting to a bullet being fired. She was reacting to someone pointing a gun at her. It's insane to assume she started reacting the moment the trigger was pulled.
I fought so fricking hard on their forums to convince people it was aim dodging, and was so fricking pissed when they took it as her actually fricking dodging the bullet. Thank frick the forum got shut down after for piracy.
Honestly this bullshit is at the crux of so many "laser dodging" feats.
Everyone assumes that
>Every shooter has perfect aim
and
>Character aren't allowed to react until the trigger is pulled
even if said speed feats make no fricking sense for the character in question. Hell, that can even apply to lightning dodging if there's some sort of windup to the lightning attack (hand waving, saying some word or phrase, pointing, whatever).
We just need to flood them with this picture.
>In reality, Sparky can't lift anything because he lacks opposable thumbs, and trying to ride him will result in you going inside him
I love these characters and i've only known them for 10 seconds each
Worse is
>Calculating Dracula and Sora’s reaction speeds based on telagraphed attacks regular humans can dodge
>Calculating Ganon’s reaction speed based on LINK’S reaction speed that’s based on telegraphed laser attacks players can react to
"Calcs" in this kind of stuff are almost always extreme bullshit designed to intentially mislead by taking something out of contexts. Every fricking time.
What is the appeal of these death battles? It's literally just headcanon.
You get to hear a run down on each characters general lore and greatest feats, see crazy stupid measurements, watch a generally well animated simulation of a fight which ends in a gory death, give a rundown on why they won, and then be generally dissatisfied with the result.
Headcanon is fascinating.
Autism, and pretending to take a side so you can make "OH NONONO XgayS BTFO" posts.
The presentation can be good, history lessons on fictional characters can be fun, and some of the battle animations are good.
I don't give them views anymore but sometimes I watch reaction videos just to see how dumb homosexuals react to stupid cape shit.
If you turn your brain off and don't give a shit about who wins between fictional characters they do have some pretty good fights.
Bullshit strength scaling aside, Balrog vs TJ using real world boxing theory to justify their decision is one of the few kino pieces of research they've ever done.
Ganker should make its own death battle because we know better.
And we will still have shit taste regardless by the end results.
Every episode is an oft wanked character vs Ganker-tan.
/v/-tan wins every time.
Oh boy
The true winner
Fanbase filled with sweaty tards vs cringe meme fandom
either way it would be fun to watch the salt
Pacman is stronger than Kirby
That 170 million times FTL Roxas still gets me
Roxas?
In Yoda vs Mickey they scale Mickey off of Roxas's speed by some feat he does in KH3 where he flys lightyears away from the battle against Xemnas, Axel,Xion and Sora
I'm pretty sure that's not what happened but I haven't played KH3 so idk
It did happen, the researchers just took the most obviously ridiculous scenario to explain what happened
Instead of using the obvious explanation of "he teleported" they believe Roxas somehow jumped from one star system to the next with impossible accuracy all in under a few seconds
The research team is so fricking autistic and fricking idiotic.
>Dracula has a hallway with a neat starry background
>OMG DRAGULA CAN MAKE UNIVERSES HE'S OMNIUNIVERSAL TIER!!!
Yyyyep
>OMG DRAGULA CAN MAKE UNIVERSES HE'S OMNIUNIVERSAL TIER!
yes
I'll take your word for it bro, but I haven't watched since Tifa Vs Yang... which was objectively bullshit.
DB really banking on memes of the month instead of good content?
Someone spoil the outcome, and bump this thread so Jannies don't get careless.
Yes.
Fight isn't out yet, last fight was a pity win for Boba Fett where he was fed Predator to make up for losing to Samus twice.
Fight is out tomorrow. But you'd have to be stupid to assume the character owned by the sponsor is losing.
I feel so upset
>the Vergil vs Sephiroth video
only watched one video from these guys to know they didn't have a clue what they were talking about
Vergil vs Sephiroth is easily one of their worst videos. You can tell the nu-research team has a fricking hard on for anything Final Fantasy.
wow. the most homosexual reddit shit i've ever seen. they're just doing this for the shitty ass song.
They 100% picked Raiden because le memes
>dio vs Hellsing
I thought it was bullshit dio won
Same, and I'm a Jojo-gay.
Everyone did
Even if Dio WAS 1500x FTL, he would likely die of boredom before he killed the same guy 3 million times in a row. There's no reason for him to grind away at Alucard's extra lives when he's making no visible progress towards killing him whatsoever.
Fun Fact: there was a Death Battle that released on Oct 21st of 2015, which is Back to the Future Day
Unfun Fact: It wasn’t Dio vs Sakuya. It was Tifa vs Yang. And I’m STILL MAD.
Honestly I gave it to dio pre fight, But only because I assumed they would've given dio World Over Heaven
They also incorrectly claimed Dio could work on intangible objects, purely by misunderstanding Alessi and his stand.
I'm still REALLY FRICKING MAD
>Dragonballtard
DESERVED.
Bro, Kirby takes on Buu-level threats on the regular. And I don't think one of his games has ever shown him get genuinely damaged, either.
Weak
>own video shows Kirby flying on a warp star at about jet speed
>so apparently he can fly at 500000x the speed of light
>and since he can pilot it effectively this means Kirby himself can move at the same speed
Kirby is an unfortunate example of a joke that went too far and people started taking too seriously.
Really just wanted to see Homelander get his shit kicked in. Not saying it wasn't a fairly fitting matchup but Omniman was obviously far stronger.
I still don't understand how Saitama has ever lost one of these
Because he can't beat Popeye's cartoon shit.
Popeye's managed to survive god turning off the universe.
I actually really enjoyed that one, just for the dumb jokes like
>Saitama performs a punch
>It has japanese for "Death" on it
>Popeye is completely unphased because he cannot read japanese
Yeah the Popeye one was kino to be fair
Toons are just a different breed in death battles and they are using pre-monster org Saitama.
In the newest chapter Saitama and Garou clashed fists. The strength of said blows blew away a couple dozen stars away in the next panel. If you don't want to count that as his feat strength, afterwards he easily destroyed a moon of Jupiter with one hand and he still wasn't serious.
It was fine but they clearly did it because they're pissbabies about OPM like most power level gays. I can't even begin to tell you how pissy they get over OPM.
Saitama is just a guy with very good physical stats.
Even if you give him infinite stats Popeye is a toon, all toons (at least according to Death Battle) has something called 'toon force' what in a nutshell means that they can shit on physics and are more powerful even than a top tier reality warper.
Anyway they probably have done that because DB was mad about the people saying "saitama can defeat goku, superman, ..." because absolutely nobody was asking for this match.
That's not what toon force is at all, depending on the toon it can be as mild as Wily Coyote or as bullshit as Popeye. But unless proven otherwise, any basic reality bender or mind controller can 1v1 a toon.
But yeah, I have no idea why they thought people wanted to see Popeye Vs Saitama.
That's why I said 'according to Death Battle', not even VSbattleswiki put 'toon force' so high
funnily enough on the site toon force is a pretty useless ability with no actual function
I wouldn't use vsbattleswiki as a metric for anything. They're about as assbackwards as a power level homosexualry site can get.
Someone mentioned Touhou earlier, which reminds me that VSBattles had the hilarious idea to make physically normal humans into FTL speedblitzers through scaling.
It just doesn't go together.
They made Saitama fight Popeye so that they could explain to the audience that Saitama isn't a fricking gag character, and showing Popeye, who is a real strong gag character. The author, ONE even explain that the idea of Saitama is that you take the protagonist at the end of their series, when they're at their most powerful and put them at the beginning of series. It would be equivalent of taking Goku from the end of Super, when he has Ultra Instinct and then starting the story of Dragon Ball. He would be able to one-shot everything and there would be no tension when he's around, but eventually he will meet something that's close to his power.
They also made him fight Popeye because they were betting that no matter what Saiatam did in his series he would still lose because of how ridiculous Popeye is. Even with the current chapter where Saitama and Garou destroy dozens, if not hundreds, of stars, which would actually make Saitama physically stronger than Popeye during that death battle, he would still lose.
Don't forget these gays think the Chosen undead in DS1 character is universe level or some stupidly hightier bullshitshit because of the endings
They're morons if they think that. If you haven't played DaSI, the ending is basically you've been collecting lord souls entirely so that you could become glorified tinder to allow the First Flame to continue burning for just a bit longer, delaying the Age of Dark. The CU never actually gets any "power" from the lord souls, and they die immediately because they're fricking being burned alive to keep Lord Gwyn's legacy alive for just a little bit longer.
as a warframe fan, i really don't hope they make excalibur win just because warframe is sponosring the video, unless they have 1000000% concrete evidence excalibur could would, but i dont think he can, to be honest. raidens sword cuts through fricking anything. warframes are flesh and steel, no fricking chance.
>i really don't hope they make excalibur win just because warframe is sponosring the video
Pretty sure that will be the result.
Get ready for Tifa vs Yang v2
Excalibur takes this if they bring out the Operator and their void space magic frickery.
>is limitless, infinite, and unbeatable in your path
How did Death Battle become so based about this?
>Jobs to Venom
Saitama kills his ass
IWAE
Reality bending is a bit too bullshit in battles honestly.
This guy is anti-plot armor. THAT is how strong he is
nobody actually thinks this right? it's satire?
When are they going to do a Umineko battle? What would even be a good matchup?
Too niche.
A lot of things are "too niche" but somehow end up in DB anyway, case in point with Blazblue
Anon Blazblue is several magnitudes less niche than a fricking obscure doujin visual novel.
I don't think they are, they're known in dumb VS circles as well, just not at the forefront. If anything, Blazblue is just more known to Death Battle watchers, the most popular Blazblue video on Youtube is Sol Badguy vs Ragna, there are 7 Blazblue videos with above 1 mil views on Youtube. The top 2 have 4 mil (the DB one) and 1.5mil-ish respectively.
Umineko has a similar number of videos in that category, but the top 2 have 6.5 and 4.5mil respectively.
More niche for some demographics, sure, but Blazblue really is not that popular outside of Japan.
>they're known in dumb VS circles as well
No they aren't. They're boogiemen thrown around the metaphorical campfire of these neanderthalic discussions, vague names with even more vague feats being listed by people that never read the source material in order to jerk off to power scales. It's the same fricking niche Touhou used to occupy, and I thank god for the fact that I rarely see people bring up Yukari these days because Touhou didn't deserve that fate. No work of fiction does.
Frankly it's better that Umineko occupies that spot than Touhou because Touhou is a vague mess, what's fun about it is making up your own shit and fanworks for it
At least Umineko has battles and power dynamics, but take them to silly levels on purpose
Umineko's initial fun is about the mystery and Battler desparately trying to disprove that a magical culprit is the definitive answer to "who done it?"
I think that's why most fights fall apart with it (and why a DB about it would be boring) because these fights don't really consider the mystery or the "logic" that characterizes the sound novel.
If you were just to do a straight up DB it's just weeb-flavored reality warping probably fricking over something that's less silly or vice versa.
Also, Umineko itself laughs at the idea of Versus battles. The narrative defines the winner, doesn't matter what kind of powers the character is supposed to have.
>The narrative defines the winner, doesn't matter what kind of powers the character is supposed to have.
>Narrative defines the winner
ENTER
What does CA Superman do
>HURR DURR DC IS LITERALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY STORY EVER MADE, TRANNIE SCOTSMAN SAID SO
Fricking have a nice day.
NOOO BRO SUPERMAN IS LITERALLY THE REASON HEROISM EXISTS HE'S THE SYMBOL OF HOPE FOR EVERYONE PLEASE BUY TICKETS TO HIS NEXT FILM AND BUY OUR COMICS PLEASE THE INDUSTRY IS DYING TO JAP FRICKS
>Being this asshurt that your lame weebshit gets beat by my less lame capeshit once again
>less lame
Ganker troony seething that his industry is dead
qrd?
weaker then Batkek
>literally scales above the concept of cardinality and the ideation of ‘scale’ or ‘size’ of a set in a manner analogous to a dialectical manner of historical idealism
>can one-shot and overcome barriers consisting of cabalistic aggregations of all possible hyper-temporal modes in any possible relativistic worldline
>is a narrative exemplification of total transdual ‘being’, ‘being’ beyond the negative and positive juxtaposition that is story and non-story
>can tank entire metaverses worth of narrative material being shot at him, with any metaphysical ‘amount’ of this material being able to reset Type 4 Metaverses beyond any set theoretic axiomatic framework
>Metaverses themselves transcend infinite Type 3 Multiverses infinitely, consisting of axioms that are completely contradictory in reality, leading to infinite principle of explosion type events where 0 = 1, which blows past any ‘type’ of infinity or Multiverse (including Type 4)
>Is the manifestation beyond a type-omega-bit consciousness, is the post-Hegelian idea of an ‘Obermensch’ in the most Gnostic and anti-Hylic mode of existence; is capable of breaking through ‘the end of history’ as a reification of all goodness in any type of human collective consciousness or unconsciousness
>Is the incarnational self-insert of the non-dual container of all narratives which contains all ‘story machines’ which generate all dualities, including concepts, narratives, and all forms of structure (metaphysical, mathematical, and physical)
>Is the embodiment of all concepts as the ‘contraction’ of the non-dual non-conceptual intellect, is the embodiment of immortality and all other conciliar concepts
>contains every concept to ever exist and is the antithesis of them, and can infinitely adapt after this as a baseline, with this adaptation being beyond all the concepts it embodied before (including all types of actual infinities)
Lol.
(Smosh Voice) SHUT UP!
Hey man I'm just trying to shitpost against Uminkeogays. No need to bring this schizo shit here.
Riddle me this because i'm actually curious. what kind of perverse autism does it take to write something like this out?
Welcome to the shit show that is modern Western comics.
DC Comics has genuinely nothing going for it besides Batman, Superman, and on rare occasions Wonder Woman. To try and make up for that they've jacked up power levels to absilutely moronic heights.
The most fervent DCgays, being the scum among scum that they are, grab hold of this in a deluded attempt to say that stronger = better, and because DC defines itself as the strongest that means it's the best.
Marvelgays are annoying but the diehard DCgays are a whole other level of awful.
Why do comicbook power levels read like edgy fanfiction wank? It's like what a 2 year old would say "NO MY ACTION FIGURE IS STRONGEST AND CAN BEAT insert concept/word/character/idea".
How recent is TR Superman and what was the reason DC decided such a thing needed to exist? Was it really just so they could have a character that beats Demonbane?
He’s from the early 2000s, and he exists as the ‘ultimate failsafe’ against a cosmic vampire editor that consumes storytelling. It’s a metaphor for Alan Moore. Read this for more info:
http://rikdad.blogspot.com/2018/02/final-crisis-retro-review-part-iii.html?m=1
>he exists as the ‘ultimate failsafe’ against a cosmic vampire editor that consumes storytelling
Ok then, why did DC feel that such a cosmic vampire editor with 4th wall powers needed to exist?
Read the blog post and it explains it
The same writer who made that was a crossdresser who wrote pic related, by the way.
Is that a African Superwoman robot?
and yet he's still somehow weaker then Batman with prep
>Final Crisis is a result of a writer being a piss baby about a good deconstructive work of fiction.
Holy shit this the exact type of next level autism that's killing modern comics.
DC seethes hard about Moore since he left them and shat on superheroes, but can't help but take shit from him.
Watchmen was ruined by Doomsday Clock having Superman fix all the problems in Watchmen's world by going "things... DO matter" and having the Batmanhattan who Laughs exist.
Killing Joke was ruined by that Three Jokers bullshit where it was revealed that he never abused his wife.
And now they're fricking up his Great Darkness by making it to be some cosmic threat that's behind everything when it was a more neutral force.
I don't understand how anyone can respect DC.
Blind company worship.
Bullshit aside? None of that 4th wall bullshit he's telling you is true. The cosmic vampire in question, Mandrakk, feeds on the in-universe concept of "stories", and because Superman is a Mary Sue his story was particularly succulent, but also powerful (DC makes Superman out to be something much more profound than he actually is). Mandrakk also feeds on the "Bleed" of the Multiverse, which would be the dimensional branes that separate universes, in this case represented as a red ichor- yes it's a menstruation reference and Marvel has a similar thing called the Superflow IIRC. Anyway all that gobbledyasiatic about types of Multiverses, platonic concepts, transcendence, etc is complete garbage that people fooled themselves into believing. you can't even quantify his power level because his story took place in the monitor sphere, which is the outermost "celestial sphere" (look it up) of the DC Multiverse, which has its own dimensionality that you need to ADJUST TO to even walk on, so you're not at your "standard" power level in there to begin with
Everything said in the original post was true tho.
>t. Hylicpilled
only, and i mean ONLY a genuine Hylic would worship Superman like that.. that is all
True, but that is not ‘worship’.
I was talking about Morrison, that bald scottish troony with they them pronouns who cums on his comic books as a pagan ritual
>He is an INFIN-
He's not real.
only matchup I've seen is batkek vs black battler
>Optimus Prime vs RX78
>Comic book optimus prime vs OG 0079 gundam
Why did they ever think that was a good idea?
at least the fight was kinda cool
Should have picked a better Gundam/pilot
Optimus Prime wouldn't kill a child would he?
"This was an INCREDIBLY close fight that could have gone either way."
"But this dude's 67 billion times faster because he scales to his half-brother's cousin's pet dog, daniel, and he's also fourteen thousand times stronger because he can use a ring-pull on a coke can."
I really hate their way of power scaling. According to their rules, Robotnik would be as fast as and as strong as Sonic because they've punched each other once.
What about?
holy shit this thing is still going, imagine still caring about death battle
imagine ever caring about death battle
>tfw thought it would be safe of this autistic cancer outside of Ganker
At least they showed the admirable restraint of not featuring DC or capeshit for one episode.
I genuinely hope that Death Battle is eventually banished to /trash/ where it belongs.
Is Raidou and SMTverse more powerful than anything in fiction? Nahobino beat every comic book character in power rank.
Jesus beats them
>Nahobino beat every comic book character in power rank.
lmao no
I want to see bugs bunny vs rodger rabbit, that'd be fun.
Rodger Rabbit is clearly the punching bag of his cartoons, or at least what little we see of them.
Bugs is usually the victor of his cartoons.
ITT: Warframe devs/shills in full force shilling their very bad and half assed game.
Hilarious since we've long since stopped talking about that shitty game in order to piss at each other because that's what these stupid power level autism battles devolve into. Pissing contests.
It's not as easy as it looks. If you discard Tenno-hax, Excalibur is structurally a technocyte-infected Dax soldier. That's on the high edge of MGSR's power range, but within reach considering HF blades. That would be a fight worth seeing.
But since it's Youtube bait, we're going to get Tenno-Hax vs Memes.
Doesn't Warframe take llace so far into the future that technology is effectively esoteric magic, with each Warframe itself being bio-engineered living weapons and virtual forces of nature?
Yep
While technically yes, the tech in the setting is all over the place. Warframes are taken down with melee weapons, explosives and small arms of relatively reasonable power.
The problem with a Warframe is that the convenience gameplay contrivances are canon to the Tenno. They are immortal, implacable and overwhelming. They fly, phase through reality, no-sell literal anti-ship weaponry and even if you literally annihilate one, it will reform itself out of energy.
The local system empires only withstand the Tenno because they're thousands against trillions.
silence with this death battle homosexualry
tell me who wins RIGHT NOW
Doc gives everyone the dose and wins by curing them of Vs homosexualry
>Jersey City is in perfect condition
Coop's already won.
Tie.
Power man, I know he's had a rough day and all but he's still power man.
>the entire ork race is unified
Now that's just not fair.
>Everyone who isn't green automatically loses
Power Man wins.
anon what's infinite x 0?
I hate Gankergays so much. Whenever someone mentions a non-western comicbook character beating a version of their characters, they move goal posts and say "Well this version from poopyscatuniverse says that he can run 1 million times the speed of light and rewrite reality in this issue".
DC is just too strong b***h
Iron Man vs Lex is the best fight.
Prove me wrong.
>He will be considered Multiverse if Death Battle uses him again
I would like to see the Ganker meltdown that Sora defeating a DC top tier would be
Just like every other death battle since it's inception.
When are you people gonna learn that this shit is just stupid nerd battles with no basis in anything that appeals to the lowest common denominator?
>watching this shit in the first place
Does Ganker just not have a fricking filter with the shit they watch?
The friend simulators that the eceleb spammers have been programmed to think they’re friends I get they don’t know any better
But this shit is a whole new level of the tism
Why does comic writers, specially the DC ones, like to give a morbillion of powers and feats to their characters just to make them job to an average villain 3 comics later?
Don't they understand that the more powerful a character is the more difficult is to create an interesting and consistent story?
They're pretentious as frick and take Zack Snyder serious.
It's more to do with the fact that capeshit has been running for a long ass time. Add all the cosmic event shit co-existing with a mostly strict status quo and you get some really wacky scaling.
Superman is almost 90 years old by now, right?
This is death battle adjacent but man this is actually a really great video if y'all have seen it. A lot of the shit DB puts out is terrible but there's sometimes great ones.
OMM is hit or miss. Avoid the one Naruto obsessed homosexual animator and they're usually pretty good though.
Samus vs Megaman, Link vs Sora, and Terry vs Burai are all great.
>Thread almost instantly becomes focused on Ganker or Ganker matchups despite being the OP being about two video game characters on the board dedicated to video game discussion
They really going to feed Chief to Doomslayer
Why'd they do it?
This one was fine. Noone really cares about the two of them and they just want the guy on the right to be taken down a peg.
Because it would bring it clicks
Two most relevant "what if Superman was EVIL" at the moment, and the fight was requested after the Boys shill video they did.
popular match between popular characters
spoiler alert the episode turned out to be a hit and pretty much got more views then all the episodes of last season
Honestly they should do more completely lopsided theme-based matchups like that. Hercules vs The Monkey King was also interesting cause it wasn't basing itself off of some modern fiction. It felt more like their really old videos where they got stuff wrong... because mythology is usually about a ton of interpretation, so this time it's excusable.
It was a damn good episode. I hate the capeshit matches, but that one was something fantastic. The animation was good, the voice acting was good, the pacing was amazing, it made sense thematically, and no one had any doubts as to who the winner would be. The planets aligned to make the perfect capeshit episode, and now we have no need for any more.
Honestly one of their better ones. They didn't even try to make it look like homelander would win, just stalling with his autistic screeching.
Freedom Gundam VS Optimus Prime
if you're under the age of 18 and you watch this shit your brain is systematically being turned into sludge. go consume the media their "death battles" are based upon. it'll be infinitely more valuable than watch this program could ever be.
I don't think there's an age limit on the irreversable brain rot that can be caused by death battle or any kind of powerlevel bullshitting.
This made boomers SEETHE
Didn't Alucard lose this? Literally fricking how. Alucard can summon an entire fricking army, Dio just stops time.
They said Dio can mindcontrol Shrodinger Alucard to make him wish himself out of existence
They said space ripper stingy eyes can one shot Alucard's army
Alucard went level 0 for some dumb reason and made himself vulnerable instead of fighting like he usually does against a more powerful opponent
Dio is 1500 times faster than the speed of light and can punch with the force of an atom bomb
I just want to know what those random magazines Jotaro stuffed his uniform with are made of, if they are able to withstand several knives being thrown into them at 1500 times the speed of light.
Also said that Dio can punch with the force of a meteor even though the said meteors were stopped in their tracks by literal shoes
Dio has a feat in the anime where he slices a cloud and that's superior to anything Alucard could do
I hate cloud feats so fricking much.
An entire army made of blood, which Dio can use to heal.
Unironically, he could and should have won if he DIDN'T go for his final form. Dio can't kill him 3.5 million times before the sun rises, which Alucard don't give a shit about while it's fatal to Dio.
All he needed to do was not stop being invincible. Time would have been on his side to a degree unimaginable.
They wanted Dio to win plain and simple
I like both Hellsing and Jojo but come on how can they seriously claim Dio wins after seeing all the ridiculous shit Alucard does.
Step 1: love Jojo so much you want their stats to unstoppable numbers
Step 2: realize those numbers don’t help against someone like alucard, so headcanon win conditions anyways
Dio's one of my favorite villains and I even know he has zero chance against Alucard. Frick he's effectively immortal with how many souls he's stocked up. And forget taking on Alucard with Schrodinger's bullshit.
Alucard can't even be killed by Dio ONCE. Alucard only uses a life if he dies in a way a vampire does. IE a stake through the heart or something
Dio can't kill him ONCE period
Anon, I think Alucard should have won, but if Alexander Anderson could kill Alucard in one precise decapitation when they first met, Dio could definitely get more than a few kills.
Not like dying once or twice ever really bothered the guy, anyway.
Dio's definitely getting some kills in. Stat wanking aside, he is really fast and Alucard doesn't know about stands at the start of the fight. Plus it's his style to just let his opponents futilely whale on him for a while.
but Jojo is a hell of a lot older than Hellsing
>Raiden Preview
>"This video is sponsored by Warframe"
kek Raiden is cooked
I liked it until they started talking about memes
they legit cannot be more scummy
Can Luffy beat Plastic Man?
Unironically maybe, because he has a counter to typical shapeshifting damage immunity which is Plastic's biggest advantage.
It's not a free win by any means though. Plastic Man has some real bullshit like crawling inside of people and puppeteering them.
What's a Death Battle episode you guys think is actually GOOD?
Goro vs Machamp
he-man vs lion-o. perfectly in character and correct outcome
Snake vs Fisher.
None of them.
Who actually cares about these dumb battles between fictional characters with completely baseless and made up statistics that are touted as facts?
Heracles Vs Sun Wukong
Megaman Battle Royale
Link Vs Cloud
>Megaman Battle Royale
moronic outcome, and making the blackhole weapon a literal blackhole is fricking moronic.
Samurai Jack VS Afro Samurai
Balrog VS TJ Combo
Wolverine VS Raiden
Goro VS Machamp
Maybe Mega Man VS Astro Boy
Obi-wan vs Kekashi
All the Megaman variants
Gutz vs Nightmare
Hulk vs Broly
Ruy vs Jin
Might Guy vs All Might
Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (Even if they got the victor wrong)
Thor vs Vegeta
Saitama vs Popeye (Even though Saitama had no chance in hell)
Generally any fight that isn't a complete stomp and less magic/psychic bullshit is a good watch.
Physical combat makes a victory feel earned a lot more than bigger numbers of clouds split or nukes per square foot.
>Thor vs Vegeta
C'mon now. The fight was just okay and the outcome was completely moronic. Somehow
Vegeta > Broly
Broly > World Breaker Hulk
World Breaker Hulk > Thor
Thor > Vegeta
It just doesn't make sense.
It might have had something to do with how quickly Broly and Hulk could improve as they kept getting more pissed off. Broly could kill Hulk before they both got too frick-dumb levels of strong.
Or that Death Battle doesn't really give a shit and just throws a dart at the board before each match.
Either way, I did enjoy that Thor v Veggie fight. Both voice actors were on point, and the animation was very good for a sprite-fite.
>Guys vs Nightmare
>good
that's just Gaara vs Toph except the character everyone likes won despite being massively weaker
All the ones previously mentioned and
>Omni-Man VS Homelander
>Saitama VS Popeye
>Beerus VS Sailor Galaxia
>Broly VS Hulk
Popeyes voice was terrible
Broly vs Hulk was good
Snake vs Fisher and TJ Combo vs Balrog.
Captain Falcon vs Johnny Cage
Snake vs Sam Fisher
Leon vs Frank West
Guts vs Nightmare
>*is reality*
Dio can't punch apart a road roller in stopped time
Alucard slices high chromium steel tank shells in half like butter with his hands
Dio got his leg sliced off by being thrown through a window and freaked out.
Alucard was smashed into intangible mist and laughed.
Even if Alucard just stood there doing nothing and taking every hit Dio throws at him, there literally isn't enough time to burn through all his lives before the sun comes up and fricks Dio. Like Dio would have to kill Alucard something like 100 times a second for 12 hours straight to make it.
Yes and Alucard could also wait to respawn
He could at worst force dio to flee
It's hilarious
Universal road roller.
TICK TOCK DCgayS
could be good but you know theyre going to bring in the dough faced kids that pilots the warframe. either way excal stomps
Remember their lead researcher wrote a blog 5 years ago wanking Dio to high heaven and saying he would atomize Alucard millions of times over. He later wrote and directed the death battle episode.
Do people still play Warframe? I dropped it a few years back.
>Saitama would lose to Popeye because toonforce when Saitama can punch through dimensional barriers and also pick up and throw wormholes
Popeye mogs Saitama by a loooong shot but they also nerfed Saitama which is weird
Yeah but Popeye also withstood the universe being turned off
Popeye can undo being erased from existence by eating spinach. While he doesn't exist. You really can't come up with a better durability feat than that.
Unironically plot armor beats that durability feat and is the ultimate durability.
Can’t kill someone who the writers don’t want to kill off.
>But Popeye can beat the writers
The writers wrote themselves being beat by Popeye in their own fictional version of themselves, and only were beaten because the writers wrote Popeye beating them.
Basically, Popeye would be fricked against an Troon character, no matter the actual feats either has, simply because DB would just write in some bullshit means to let the troon character win because they certainly can’t have an oppressed minority like Troons be killed by racist straight white male from early 1900s. Even if they wanted to be honest, DB would likely have an actual bomb sent to their offices if they had Popeye kill a troon character, which is why they’d have the Troon character win no matter what.
>Saitama can punch through dimensional barriers
DBZ characters can scream through dimensions, Xiaolin Showdown showdown characters can slash openings through dimensions, Kuawabara, Hakumen, affecting dimensions is very common in fiction, they're not toonforce. Someone in Boruto/Naruto also held a portal or some shit. Those are just fantasy abilities, not toonforce. Popeye waving his hand around and materializing popeye out of nowhere is toonforce. Popeye punching hard enough that it BREAKS THE ANIMATION REEL is toonforce. Popeye hopping out of his cartoon to knock out his own animator is toonforce.
Eat your spinach.
DB should drop the toonforce bs and make the effort to scale things correctly.
Have they ever featured any Fate characters?
Only in DBX which is diet death battle
"toonforce" is not a real thing. It's just a specialized form of reality warping.
>toon force isn't real, it's just this thing I defined
back to intro to logic you go.
in better words there's no need to call it toonforce
Toonforce in the context of an actual fight to the death stops being funny, and thus stops being toonforce. It's moronic to treat it like a serious thing.
Toonforce should be purely defensive because the toon characters its based on are entirely passive and reactionary entities that only ever do things in response to external attacks. The moment you use toon force to start the hostilities you should have an anvil fall on your head as you slip on a banana peel and get all your fingers and toes caught in mousetraps for being a homosexual
>500 posts about some moronic clickbait youtuber shit for children
holy frick what happened to this board
which simp would win
People generally say Travis, but I haven't read Scott's comic book series so I don't how strong he actually is.
I only know Scott Pilgrim through porn of the girls in his series. And I've only ever played NMH 1. What's their power levels at max?
Why exactly are some of you so miffed about toonforce? It isn't a hard concept to grasp, and not all toons are the same. Popeye specifically might be the most powerful toon for being able to resist universal wipes but you can theoretically stick him in the omega sanction or spawn a clone for him to fight forever to win. He isn't undefeatable
Used to play Warframe alot. Raiden should have this. Warframes have been said to have been killed by certain enemies. Raiden can slash through almost anything in bullet speed. Warframes have no offensive feats as good as Raiden.
Only way I can see Excalibur winning is speed/maneuverability blizt. Warframes parkour options are nuts.