>three(3) days after release
>already has a smaller playercount than 2008's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Soulstorm
why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
the franchise really fell off...
>three(3) days after release
>three(3) days after release
>already has a smaller playercount than 2008's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Soulstorm
why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
the franchise really fell off...
>AoS
>Warhammer for kids
they killed their own franchise
>why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
>AoS BAD
>t. someone who has not engaged with the setting in any manner beyond meming about ground marines
anti-AoStards are homie cattle that can't be engaged with, because they don't actually play the game
This game is a flop you needed it to be your dawn of war and it is doing nothing. You are a imitation of a fantasy setting and everything wrong with writing now
>This game is a flop
source?
> you needed it to be your dawn of war and it is doing nothing.
I didn't need this to be anything, unlike fantasytards that based their entire perception on the performance of TW and Vermintide rather than the actually tabletop (which they don't actually play)
> You are a imitation of a fantasy setting and everything wrong with writing now
No one likes arguing with secondaries because of this, you clearly know nothing about the hobby if you think the writing got with AoS exclusively
>I didn't need this to be anything, unlike fantasytards that based their entire perception on the performance of TW and Vermintide rather than the actually tabletop
Aos might be a good tabletop but it's a shitty fantasy setting.
>I like the AoS tabletop rule set, therefore the setting is good and should be able to sell video games
AoS is indeed bad.
For video game setting
It was build based on experience of making table top game. Lower miniatures count, Fantasy battles is too much to paint and handle. Make miniatures more unique and expensive to compensate sales. It is wise moves . For table top. To be made 30 years ago before franchise and lore was established
Too bad its video game. Video game doesn't care about two much miniatures and old established Fantasy Battle lore shits on AoS. AoS, nobody knows anything for AoS lore. Its generic goy slop made to sell new miniatures and it has no soul.
all warhammer games shill miniatures fricking soul storm was made to shill 6th edition flying miniatures for 40k
Who cares?
Mass popular WH video-games sales don't cross with table top sales. And while AoS may have advantage for playing table top it has zero advantage for video gaming.
Ironically WH Total War is how Fantasy should be from the beginning only such medium of video-games didnt exist back then only miniatures. And moving big blocks of soldiers is too big of a chore.
yes. that's me.
i haven't played the tabletop since i was a kid, but still like going in the shops and looking at cool models and occassionally reading about some of the lore because i find it cool. i bought warhammer total war 2 and enjoyed it, i bought vermintide 2 and enjoyed it, dawn of war 2 was the last proper RTS i enjoyed and thought mechanicus was a good experience if a bit shallow.
i'm the archetypal warhammer casual, the exact audience GW need to appeal to, and AOS does not. in the parlance of my boomer generation, it looks very gay, and i'd have probably got this game if it was classic WH or 40k.
AoS feels WH gone capeshit. Only now capeshit is dead.
Heh. Sucks to be you.
Soul and soulless
>someone who has not engaged with the setting
All I needed to do was look at the atrocious models
got any examples of that chief
Look no further than the OP pic. Fricking horrendous, and that's what they are using to try and sell their game. No shit it's bombing.
Why do people defend the capeshittifcation of everything?
>bro, if you can just LOOK PAST the fact that EVERYTHING IS moronic, AoS is really great!
you don't need to play the tabletop to see how shitty of a fricking setting age of sigmar is
have a nice day
You don't even know anything about "the setting" just basic visual desing of usually 1-2 factions.
Every moron that claims AoS is "infinite" has no fricking idea what he's even talking about, yet they still plague those threads and claims to hat the "setting' he made up in his head
>you don't need to play the tabletop to see how shitty of a fricking setting age of sigmar is
became, actually.
if total warhammer is anything to go by, it got fricked up pretty hard, it needs to die out of mercy.
I don't want to get engaged with this setting because the orcs are the blandest of orcs in any setting, and it's just fantasy space marines.
Why the frick would I engage in Age of Blandmar.
>why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
Maybe they should try making them not shit.
I tried playing martyr with my friend recently, we kept getting disconnected.
Age of Smegmar
I wish they made a real RTS instead of jr dawn of war 2
It's impressive that they managed to frick up a game that already existed, this thing wishes it was DoW 2 jr
DOW2 is the superior Dawn of War
nice cat picture bro
Well in one hand people become really stupid with anything related to age of sigmar, but the real reason is that the gameplay is shit and needs a compleat overhaul because the devs are stupid
AoS is just a boring setting honestly, which is a shame because it has some cool factions. The world building is shit and the different realm stuff is not what i enjoy
Really? I thought this story was interesting especially the ending making it grimdark as shit
Soulstorm has a larger playercount because people use it as a modding platform and it's had 15 years to get into people's libraries with sales.
Also Realms of Ruin is the first Age of Sigmar game that isn't low budget shovelware, it's unproven as a franchise and people are naturally going to be more cautious about picking it up for 60 dollarydoos
>why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
Darktide and Total War Warhammer 3 both have playercounts in the 10,000s quite a while after release
> it's unproven as a franchise
It's such an unoriginal franchise to begin with.
Maybe I'll buy it for 10$ or something.
Remake DoW 1 with a modern engine, its that simple.
Thought this game might be fun, played the demo and I have no idea why they thought making an RTS have some kind of forced locked combat would be fun.
Dogshit design.
Age of Sigmar is a tainted brand for secondaries, i.e. the primary audience of Warhammer vidya
Using the word secondary on Ganker is disingenuous cope you are not on /tg/ you pig.
The use of secondary's only gained use after 2015 when AoS killed Fantasy and 40k lore started going to shit with primaris.
there's nothing wrong with being a secondary but you're fooling yourself if you think the term didn't exist before AoS
It was literally never uttered here every until siggy piggies came and when 40k lore starting pushing a narrative
prove it
>when AoS killed Fantasy
That never happened
> t. seething secondary
secondary is from here for touhou gays anon
lurk moar newbie
Secondaries hate AOS just like everyone else though, they like Vermintide and Total Warhammer and want more of that setting.
Holy frick
Age of Sigmar is a poison IP
No one cares about Age of Shitmar.
I care
I asked
I posted a mini
disgusting GW enabler
> screeched the secondary homosexual that doesn't engage in the hobby
fantasy sold less than paint, doesn't stop moronic gays from kvetching about it constantly
You homosexuals needed this game to be a success thats it. It flopped and now most video gamers will still make fun of AoS and laugh at you playing with toys still.
The only ones that lost are secondary Gankergays, vidua has no effect on the enjoyment of the actual tabletop
FOR THE LAST TIME WE ARE ON Ganker NOT /tg/ STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR TABLE TOP POLITICS WORK EHRE
WE PLAY VIDEO GAMES AND AGE OF SIGMAR LOOKS GAY AND HAS NO GOOD GAMES AND WILL NEVER GET A GOOD VIDEO GAMES
WHO CARES TOTAL WAR AND VERMINTIDE ARE GREAT GAMES AND UTTER SHIT ON AOS
> ESL secondary
rearn engrish letard
Not my fault our culture can respect Warhammer Fantasy better than Europeans and pig Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnSwqT7UErM
>Not my fault our culture can respect Warhammer Fantasy better than Europeans and pig Americans
Lol, lmao even
>> ESL
The mark of butthurt
Based anon too angry at nogames fa/tg/uys to bother spellchecking
Based anon, I hope all of these annoying /tg/ paypig morons talking about their money burner kill themselves.
And yes Vermintide and Total War Warhammer are the only good Warhammer games.
for anyone who isn't aware. /tg/ is infested with Gankergays. same people that politically raid via discord.
>secondary secondary secondary secondary
Diversify your vocabulary you smelly nerd. Your autistic cope posts are painfully obvious.
>fantasy sold less than paint
no proof smegmar troony
>fantasy sold less than paint
Ironically, Warhammer fantasy's popularity only kicked off after it was kill. The Total War games and Vermintide did a lot for the franchise and the lore.
I think people genuinely like fantasy now and that it would do well if they just brought it back
wow you mean actually making cool shit with your stagnant license you refuse to ever fricking use generates interest in it???
Holy shit Holmes you've done it again
I don't mean to shit on you personally it just fricking aggravates me to no end how stupid and lazy GW seems to be, fricking homosexuals are sitting on a gold mine and do nothing with it
It was a deliberate throttling. The then CEO was an abject moron to the point that it’s theorised he was trying to tank the company for a golden parachute, and one of his plans was to slowly kill fantasy so it could be rebranded for copyright.
What the white knighting paypig ITT won’t tell you is that fantasy was plagued with poor support, to the point that some armies still used metal models, and new editions came with rules that incentivised bloating trash and not actually buying the new models, meaning that established players didn’t bother buying and new players would have an increased barrier to entry.
Coupled with a near complete lack of gateway material and several utterly fricking worthless armies and it was blatantly set up to fail.
Some armies in AoS and 40k still use metal models TODAY. What even is this argument?
Do they have their entire core based around metal like Brettonia was, because the army hadn’t been updated for the better part of a fricking decade?
Some AoS factions were truging along with 0 updates in AoS history, so waiting a decade for new model isn't that long when you start with decade old ones and need another decade to get more
Which ones? And, again, do you have to pay for stupidly overpriced minis by even GW standards to simply make up the base of your army?
>The then CEO was an abject moron to the point that it’s theorised he was trying to tank the company for a golden parachute, and one of his plans was to slowly kill fantasy so it could be rebranded for copyright.
How in the actual frick is this so goddamn common in the corporate world? Johnny Ricearoni, Bobby Kotick etc. How the frick are these soulless vampires in charge of everything?
Your first main video game is a flop posting a plastic toy wont stop us
like how can you defend this with a straight face holy shit lol
>Orruks
>have fun concept of Gork and Mork
>make it just a bland 'god of destruction'
People that like this shit have no fricking taste.
Orcs? What the frick is an Orc you stupid secondary
AGE OF SMEGMA
Fantasy Space Marines were a mistake.
Do you know anything about them?
they don't, they are just regurgitating moronic talking points from 10 years ago
they're gay and stupid, it's all I or anyone else needs to know.
yup straight from the mouth of the eceleb,
> yes I'm an under age eceleb watcher
> yes I am moron
> yes I get all my opinions from other morons and only consume moron approved slop
no anon, no eceleb needs to tell me sigmarines are gay and stupid. GW does all the work.
except you wouldn't know since the entirety of your knowledge on the subject comes from memes and wikis
Why would he need memes and wikis to look at AoS shit and to say it looks gay? Are you stupid or something? You don't need deep knowledge to say it looks terrible.
>You don't need deep knowledge
You don't need any knowledge apparently since you know absolutely nothing about it and your only criticisms are same tired memes from 8 years ago.
You don't just have to come up with something other than le age of smegma and smegmarine, something a little more relevant than 8 year old 1e memes. But you won't because even your criticism about 1e launch AoS come from memes anyway
What memes? How is saying that the designs look gay a meme? You sound like a genuine schizo.
>le age of smegma and smegmarine
please point out where I used any of these words in my post, mr israelite loving troglodyte.
what are your criticism then homosexual, because all you secondarygays sound the same to me
Don't worry, all of you GW paypiggies sound the same too.
and all of you third worlders are to poor for hobby's hope your doing all right now that region pricing is going away third world bro
>hobby's
Keep projecting, ESL.
>you have to study the entire history of the 9000 ages of gaydom to appreciate the setting
it's gay, stupid, and boring. I don't want to study it. I don't want to read books. This setting exists solely to put a trademark on "orruk" because "orc" doesn't belong to GW israelites and they can't profit off of it. Now post your army so I can calculate the sunk cost fallacy behind your rabid defence of a worthless, soulless corporate product
>This setting exists solely to put a trademark on "orruk" because "orc" doesn't belong to GW israelites and they can't profit off of it
They weren't making a profit off Orcs regardless of copyright shit. They made more money with Paints than they did with Fantasy, anon.
so why would they kill Fantasy if they make more money with paints? Why kill Fantasy?
Because they looked over what it would cost to potentially revive Fantasy and it genuinely was less than what it would take to make AoS.
They doesn't mean anything he said was false, in fact it's all true, they just pull labels out of their ass and assign them to existing fantasy creatures so they can copyright it.
Frick them and frick their apologists.
Nobody cares about Fantasy outside of TW newbies that learned about warhammer from eceleb bandwagoners
I detest smelly warhammer needs and I'm glad their IP is dying
No one cares about AoS because it has stormcast on the cover, who are a repulsive, cynical comitee creation trying to siphon the popularity of space marines.
Warhammer Total War was doing quite well before Creative Assemby went one straw too israelite and finally broke the camel's back.
Its weird that to me people would hate stormcast eternals yet they are the greatest weapon to ever exist agasint GWs chaos fanboys and chaos being overpowered. Even Ganker people who cry about AoS in many lore discussion here about Fantasy or 40k people here seem to hate chaos a lot.
>You can only become a stormcast if you stand up to chaos it doesnt matter what you do if you fight agasint chaos sigmar thinks you are worthy
>You cannot be corrupted
>AoS makes Chaos look more like the Imperium in 40k they basically won but now have to deal with their borders being attacked and constant internal turmoil
>Stormcasts still retain their humanity* they dont look at humans as lesser beings and know they need to defend them
>Stormcasts can question sigmar freely he encourages it
>Stormcasts arent all PURGE PURGE KILL THEM ALL insanity that is space marines
I can go on
(yes the more they die the more they become flesh automatons or literal lightning but thats in the details)
they're fricking gay
You know what AoS needs? A Soulslike if they wanna shill stormcasts.
i'd play the shit out of a competently made Warhammer Souls-like even if it's AoS instead of WFB or 40k.
Chaos fanboys are primarily a problem when enabled by writers, particularly that one homosexual who projects his daddy issues on to every authority figure he can.
You don’t need an in setting weapon against them, because what was already there was capable of holding the line so long as they weren’t put up against plot armour and/or given author induced stupidity (aka the entirety of the end times).
Chaos vikings look way cooler than smegmarines tho. I dont care about lore.
>I dont care about lore.
you don't play the game either, you just look at art work and play vidya and assume that you know anything related to this franchise
>no real catch to draw people in.
as opposed to ripping of tolkein and moorwiener
>as opposed to ripping of tolkein and moorwiener
Still manages to be more intriguing than the he-man tier slop that is AOS worldbuilding.
and which youtuber told you that?
> lotr b-but le edgy and CHAOS
no its not its incredible derivative like everything else GW produces, but since your a moronic TWgay that has only engages with these concepts for the first time it must all seem really seem intriguing, get some perspective.
Moralgays are just as much of a blight on any fantasy setting as the muh chaos teens
go die in the mud at this point thats all you fantasy larpers wanna do
Easy there, it’s not his fault that the nonexistent fantasy fan boogeyman turned out to not be nonexistent
there are no fantasy fans, they are fantasy secondaries
It is truly tempting to break my aversion to Wojacks in the face of this stubbornly fruitless cope.
posting wojaks is typical fantasysecondary behavior, I wouldn't fight my urges if I were you. Just accept what you are, a moron that played TW and Vermintide and thought you were a true and honest fan for like a defunct setting that was shut down 8 years ago after being outsold by paint.
Yep, that’s some serious seethe.
Most likely caused by metaphorical and literal impotence
reeks of projection bro, seeing as your white knighting a game that's been over for ten years almost.
Space marines are the biggest Mary Sue's in any fictional setting, ever. Gw is going down that exact same path with this stormcast AOS homosexual shit.
>literally lost any mayor event of the last half decade
>post characters are devolving in to schizos worse than Ganker
ah yes, mary sues
What are you talking about?
about stormcasts. totally going the same way as marines.
Do they ave their own Metal Boxes, though?
sadly no. you cant tin can your tin cans, since they usually arrive in battle by lightning strike
>Look, sidecuts! SIDECUTS!
>Our enemies fight with shitty haircuts!
>THE COWARDS! THE FOOLS!
>We...
>*asthma*
>We should shave away their shitty haircuts.
They've already started with the New Coke Marines and changing the Eldar to Aeldari.
Frick you smurf, Damned are the real legion
you know, when you put it like that, as the inverse of 40k where chaos is the crumbling empire, it does sound kinda cool.
that sounds like it was invented by someone who wanted to "subvert the setting"
Because Chaos wank got fricking boring after 40 years
Chaosgays and chaoswank aren't even one tenth of the problem that Space Marines are. Sigmarines are just fantasy space marines except somehow even more boring than their sci-fi counterparts.
how are stormcasts just like space marines?
Do you really have to ask?
we are talking in terms of personality. the design clues are obvious (even though its kinda incestrous with chaos warriors anyways)
Their design and role in the setting is what "we" are talking about, personality is for AoS novels which no one reads.
chaos wank and marine wank is only in the novels, not in their designs.
Wait, wait, wait. AoS has novels? I though they were just selling fancy toilet paper.
how do you post on Ganker(nel) with no eyes and one braincell?
Fluff wise there's a difference but come on anon, fatcast were clearly made to get the attention of Marine fans.
>Mary Sue Marines
No one likes troonyhammer.
We like big muscled men cutting each others' heads off.
Frick off with your israeli bullshit.
shut the frick up /misc/ tard
seethe and dilate
you aren't welcome in the hobby, chudbro :3
>Warhammer is for everyone
>You are not welcome
leftists lol
paradox of tolerance, you can have inclusion if you include people like you that want to exclude people for immutable characteristic. But since being a racists chud isn't immutable we can exclude you :3
you will never be a woman.
also people who don't like Warhammer being turned into something it is not aren't necessarily chuds. They're called Warhammer fans.
> you will never be a woman.
If it makes you feel any better I am not a troony or a woman 🙂
> also people who don't like Warhammer being turned into something it is not aren't necessarily chuds.
You are right, but there are a lot of fakefan moronic chuds that tried to appropriate the imagery and they aren't welcome.
> They're called Warhammer fans.
As in people that play tabletop or morons that play vidya for defunct setting and seethe about it because ecelebs told them to?
>If it makes you feel any better I am not a troony or a woman 🙂
so just a homosexual?
>basic propaganda model created by israelites and parroted to justify pre-emptive attacks and false dichotomy extremism aka everyone i don't like it a fascist and if you don't agree, you are too
So you know what the biggest difference between millennials and zoomer ideals is? This condescending idea that people cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality, and that there is always this assumption of malice before anything else, as if people are incapable of moderating dickish behaviour before it becomes violence as a social understanding and instead always need it enforced by a third party.
Just gift wrapping nanny state governments and authoritarianism under the guise of "for your own good"
Won't be long before some places outlaw 40k because "themes that might turn people into nazis"
I’m a zoomer which side am on?
>wow imagine of the situation were reversed
hehe yeah imagine that but oh wait it isn't you lose chud
>our settings are grim and dark and are not a reflection of who we are
they've been purifying and spraying their settings with pg13 for what, 10 years now?
Thankfully I can play OPR with any setting and any models I want and they won't see a cent lol
Nobody gives a frick about age of sigmar because it as a setting has no appeal. It is just boring and generic as frick and has no real catch to draw people in.
I swear these threads are a mess AoS could still get a good game and no one would agree on anything
Its not a game issue. Maybe AoS is a great game I dont know. Its a setting issue. I know it has a lot of original factions but they chose to promote it with stormcast who look like they were generated by an AI.
Age of Sigmar is one of the most unremarkable soulless fantasy slop setting you can imagine. Everything in the setting is just magic word soup, the nature of the "infinite realms" means there's precisely zero understanding of any inter faction relationships for a given consumer to understand. Fricking everything has three syllable names, or is a -droth. It's just so unbelievably bland as a setting. Stormcast are ridiculous mystery meat super soldiers, kruleboys are redundant goblins, the ghosts are just that, and at least the Tzeench faction is what you would expect.
>the nature of the "infinite realms"
But there aren't infinite realms, there's only eight. And they have physical boundaries.
> expected anti-AoS falseflaggers to know the lore
They are so convinced that they can't even be bothered to open a wiki and double check the eceleb propaganda they ingest
Nobody cares about sloplore.
I knew that :3, the question is why you even bothered to pretend to know
>aos
>shitty weird rts
warhammer games are usually shit
dawn of war is an exception to the rule
space marine is mediocre for as much praise as it gets here
this game in particular is very slow and you cant micro units in combat outside of a retreat command thats on at least a 30 second timer
Also whoever thought up the squads counting as a single unit is a moron, its terrible design.
Unit AI is also shit, your melee units will literally just sit there whilst being pelted with ranged damage, and if you have too many units in a group with an a(f) move sometimes the outliers wont do shit but stand there.
>buy our a new game goy
>No you can't get a demo or a trial
>three(3) days after release
man I had no idea. thought it was next year
WHFB died for this.
do you actually know anything about WHFB
Micro is worthless since units get locked in combat and cost resources to retreat after a delay. This is horrible for RTS games.
why bother defending aos this hard? Just accept defeat
Age of Smegma troons have invested too much of their own identiy in that failure to let go.
When old world fails again im sure your smegma jokes will still be funny
same argument over and over again, but you have invested your identity in a game you don't play because you didn't even know it existed before it was over
There isn't a competition between Fantasy and AoS because Fantasy is over. I just hate not being able to discuss a game without moronic secondaries regurgitating the same moronic memes over and over again.
> Age of Sigmar is one of the most unremarkable soulless fantasy slop setting you can imagine. Everything in the setting is just magic word soup, the nature of the "infinite realms" means there's precisely zero understanding of any inter faction relationships for a given consumer to understand. Fricking everything has three syllable names
How can one guy be so wrong, almost like you don't play the hobby
I play age of sigmar on the table and I can safely say the setting sucks dick. It's awful.
but why even play at that point? There are many other good fantasy table top games out there and cheaper too.
> I have totally played this game on the table bro and I can tell you the setting is awful. I am not just spouting meme criticism about the rough 1e launch I swear
Sure anon I'll take your word
but why even play warhammer? I like AoS as a setting and play table top but you only play warhammer for setting appeal.
because their eceleb idols told them to and the cultural normalgay zietgiest is catching up with WH, its really is only a matter of time before they start spamming movies and shit like marvel
I have some nighthaunt minis because they do look cool
but the setting is fricking gay and soulless
its like someone looked at 40k
and transported it 1:1 into fantasy, and it really doesnt work
I do play the game moron. I run a Big WAAAGH! List. I like the rules of the game itself, but the setting is atrocious bland. I'm just going to assume you're defending the setting just to farm (you)'s
Maybe it's another shit game
>tic toc owlcucks
Total Warhammer 1+2 made PC gamers care about Warhammer fantasy. Total Warhammer 3 got them to not care. It's also very pricey, has Denuvo, seems to be multiplat with consoles (???) and the reviews mention about bugs and performance issues. Add to that inflation and the other game IP that made gamers care about Warhammer shitting the bed (Vermintide) and it's no wonder. As comsumer prostitutes as they are, gamers don't even come close GW's core tabletop fans for tolerance of abuse.
You can't care for a tabletop setting that ended a year prior to any of the video games being made moronic, shit was already dead by then and the reeing that hasn't stop since then has done nothing but shit up the threads. Gamer homosexuals don't care about the franchise outside of 3 video games and probably won't bother with Old World but they will continue to shit up threads
And that's just Ganker. Most of them probably have never even played a Warhammer game but know of the drama. I am just answering OP's question with how interest is dying off.
>a tabletop setting that ended
wtf are you talking about? It still exists, you can play it any time you want.
The game exists, the setting itself ended.
No, it's still there.
>You can't care for a tabletop setting that ended a year prior to any of the video games being made moronic, shit was already dead by then
You wrong. Proven by TW WH success. Huge reason of it success is Fantasy grimdark, over the top and diverse setting. Its ultimate fantasy game, it incorporated all fantasy memes, its edgy and its cool. AoS is less, its generalizing downgrade.
TWW's success as a game won't translate to tabletop success when people realize you need to pay over three times the cost of a DLC to get a single unit which you then have to assemble and paint yourself.
The whole complaints about the DLC price hike is honestly hilarious to look at when compared to tabletop.
GW absolutely does not care about the success of games, because at the end if the day tabletop makes them so much more money. TWW's success to them just means potential advertising for minis.
>TWW's success as a game won't translate to tabletop success
Indeed.
First of all absolute majority of videogamers don't see appeal of the table top gaming especially such as Warhammer. Costs too much, too much labor, too little gaming.
>GW absolutely does not care about the success of games, because at the end if the day tabletop makes them so much more money. TWW's success to them just means potential advertising for minis.
This doesn't work because see above. Vidya doesn't sell table top.
And don't expect AoS slop work in video gaming. Its DOA there.
AoS can work for games, the problem is that GW wants to enforce vidya as ads for tabletop games. The reasin TWW and Vermintidr succeeded was because GW didn't bother to push them as ads since Fantasy was dead and, according their marketing team, nobody would really be interested in Fantasy anyways. This changed after TWW2 and is expressly why TWW3 had some many issues in terms of units and factions, as TWW3 was meant to be a staging ground for pitential Old World plans.
RoR doesn't work well because it's meant to be an ad for tabletop AoS, which has rules that don't mesh well with vidya as a medium. Hell, several of the factions included aren't even the popular ones fron their Grand Alliance (Kruleboyz are widely disliked, Stormcast aren't really popular, and DoT and Nighthaunt both get stiff competition) but GW still shoved them in anyways because three of those four are considered to be the 'starter armies' for tabletop AoS.
What they SHOULD do is release a proper RPG for AoS that explores the setting, rather than ports of board games and tabletop made for the purpose of going "Look at these Stormcast Eternals Dicksmashers! Don't you want to buy them?"
>a proper RPG for AoS that explores the setting
Never gonna happen cause the setting wouldn't work for an RPG
Yes it will.
>Play as a Chaos Warrior trying to win glory, immortality, etc. etc.
>Can spec into Undivided or any of the four Gods
>Get party members who serve the different Gods and react differently to your decisions as they should. Cultists, Chaos Warriors, Skaven, Beastmen, lots to potentially work with.
>Have it be set where Chaos is invading specific realms, keep it contained just to them. Each God has a focus in one (Slaanesh in Hysh, for instance)
>Also means you can get a wider variety of enemies, like Sylvaneth in Ghyran
GW would never do it, but it could work.
It already has a paper one
how would you know seeing as you know nothing about the actual setting
>Kruleboyz, Stormcast, DoT, Nighthaunt
Lol WTF is this shit? Its not secondary or even tertiary. It has ZERO resonance with normal people cultural background. Completely made up words.
Elves, Orcs, Vampires, Dragons, Knights - instantly bring up fantasy memes from peoples memory. AoS sloppa?
>Elves
>Orcs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT
THOSE ARE LUMINETH AEADAERI AND ORUKS
>THOSE ARE LUMINETH AEADAERI (c) AND ORUKS (c)
fixed fro you
Lore written by marketing and legal department. Good luck, lol.
The whole naming things seem petty at a surface glance but were actually important to everything that's happened in both 40k and Fantasy/AoS, hence why so much stuff in AoS and newer 40k is [Faction] [AdjectiveNoun]. GW is not immune to copyright frickery at all, and it did significant damage to them. The actual effects go a lot deeper than just names changing.
>GW is not immune to copyright frickery at all
So who did copyright elves, orcs and knights?
Those are all general broad use terms that can't be copyrighted, and as such have no exclusivity.
Funnily enougg 40k using K instead of C for Orks actually does make a differences.
> y-you have to use what I decide is fantasy otherwise it doesn't count!!!!!
have a nice day secondary
You can't copyright those. That's why IG is Astra Militarum now, Eldars become Aeldari and Dark Eldars Drukhari.
>Elves, Orcs, Vampires, Dragons, Knights
they're Lumineth, Orruks, Soulblight Gravelords, Stardrakes and Cities of Sigmar now
Somehow they sound gayer than the ones from 40k rebranding
copyright frickery robbed us of Malal
Fun fact; Dark Elves are being excluded fron Old World, probably because GW is terrified that using the name Malekith will get the attention of the Mouse's lawyers.
Skaven,Lizardmen and Vampire Counts (among others) are also missing from the marketing.
At least Tomb Kings and Bretonnia were both confirmed with the first official mini reveals
Skaven and Vamp Counts are genuinely surprising exclusions, Lizardmen makes sense considering they're all across the ocean.
Its more like Dark Elves are dirty slavers we always need to think about saint Floyd. Thers literally no slavery in AOS, hell I bought newest Dark Eldar codex, and thers no word slave in a book about sadistic raiders who well take slaves. The word they use are captives/prisoners lol prisoners like DE are some fat cops. I think slavery will be phased out from all Warhammer settings soon pathfinder style.
Creative Assembly also used ~~*Labourers*~~ instead of slaves for the Chaos Dwarfs
>Thers literally no slavery in AOS
It's literally one of the core theams of current posterchildren. What is the point of lying so blantantly?
Yes I used wrong word, should used basically. Its still present on the outskirts like Archaon faction, but in comparison to fantasy is nearly gone. Hell I collect Hedonites, care to wonder what word disappear from later battletomes? Yes slavery will be gone from GW setting in couple years I am 100 % sure of that.
>probably because GW is terrified that using the name Malekith will get the attention of the Mouse's lawyers.
why?
Because there a dark elf known as maleketh the accursed that GW ripoffed and know yidsney will rape them if they find out they are violating their copyright
There's a Marvel character named Malekith who also happens to be a king of Dark Elves.
so GW have always been derivative hacks that rip off capeshit
those are faction names moron, the races are aelves, orruks, soulblight vampires and cities of sigmar are just humans and various other races like sylvaneth and duardin
They were already using Dwarfs instead of Dwarves. Dawi was not good enough?
pretty sure Dawi is the name of a real life tribe somewhere, can exactly copyright that
>Dawi was not good enough?
That's probably on the Marketing end. Somebody looked kt over and thought 'Duardin' was more marketable than 'Dawi'.
Honestly the entire thing is one big fricking hornet's nest, since one frick up will have lawyers kicking down your door
I don't know why or how it never clicked before but it's probably Dawi for "The Wee(lads)"
Vampire is just a vampire. Soulblight curse is just the name of the thing that causes vampirism and has a "sister" called Carion curse that also has vampires as one of the outcomes
Vermintide is dubbed the end times to shill end times
Yes maybe not AOS, but I would love Stellaris like Warhammer 40 k grand strategy. Great Crusade then siding with Horus or Emprah, then 40 k rotten Empire situation. lore events, tyranids crisis etc. But game like that would not be ad for tabletop games so..
> proper RPG for AoS that explores the setting
The setting is a load of stupid dreamworlds where it doesn’t make sense that anyone would live there.
> what is Cities of Sigmar
learn the setting before saying moronic shit homosexual
What the actual frick are you on about?
fricking this,
This is the reason why Kislev and Cathay looks so shit, cratoony and over the top. They have age of smegma all over them.
Back in reality, some version of those outfits would be Kislev aesthetic if it was made by the AoS team and not by CA
For me, they look as shit as the ones made by CA. To flanderized, it's just another every day high fantasy slop. I like more realistic and grounded designs as in Warhammer TW1. Kislev and Cathady designs don't fit the first two games. They look to different, with their roided ice bear riders. WH Fantasy lost its soul, now it's just another slop indistinguishable from other fantasy slops.
how the hell do those models look flanderized?
>Warhammer Fantasy
>Not High Fantasy
Anon...
Human faction supposed to be somewhat grounded. This was the most interesting part of warhammer. Semi-realistic human societies fighting againts magic shit with use of gun powder and faith. Now they are as magical or even more, than monsters they are fighting with.
It's literally just undead wearng normal stuff. Where is the flanderization???
Noble even has a fricking saber, essential gear Total Trash 3 omited
Go to /tg/ then if you wanna talk tabletop, this is Ganker.
> this is secondaries only where we pretend to be fans of warhammer and spouts the same lame jokes, Age of Sneedmar, I'm i right Gankeredditors
>ultimate fantasy game, it incorporated all fantasy memes, its edgy and its cool. AoS is less, its generalizing downgrade.
says the secondary that gets all his knowledge from second hand media, Fantasy is nothing but an edgy ripoff of other fantasy shit smeared with expies of historical kingdoms, it is not even close to the ultimate fantasy
> India is Ind
> Japan is Nippon,
> Arabia is Araby
> Africa is just southlands
Damn, so this is the creativity of FANTASYCHADS, i fricking kneel
>none of these factions are playable
woah...
> Holy Roman Empire is actually...the Empire of Man
> Chivalric France + Britain is...Bretonnia excellent work boyos
>says the secondary that gets all his knowledge from second hand media, Fantasy is nothing but an edgy ripoff of other fantasy shit
This is exactly why it is Ultimate Fantasy Battle game. It has everything and solves eternal question, who would win in the battle: conquistador, Orc or maybe Drakula?
>You can't care for a tabletop setting that ended a year prior to any of the video games being made moronic
What sort of moron logic is this? Why are we not allowed to care?
People still care about Harry Potter even though it's been years since books ended. Hell, people care about Lord of the Rings when it was written before they were born. Frick them secondary Lotr fans, amirite, redditbros?
Talking about the tabletop setting moronic, you can support a dead setting, of course you guys are being given a second chance with Old World so you better be ready to buy up
>3 out of the top 5 most popular Warhammer games are Fantasy
40kiddies and age of shitmar BTFO
>age of smegmar
I gave that demo a try and almost fell asleep playing no joke.
Shitty ass inferior to DoW 2 which was already a bad game back then.
Weren't stormcast originally animated suits of armor or some shit?
They're souls beaten by Sigmar's hammer until they fit into the armor. Every time they die, the soul (usually) goes back to Sigmar to get reforged. Every tine they get reforged, they lost parts of their memories and minds, becoming less themselves and more like automatons faceless. Eventually they stop taking their helmets off entirely and lose their sense of self, at which point a specific order of Stormcast comes along and makes them disappear.
No, but morons like you are one of the main reason why every kit has to have ugly faces now. Because back in the good old days of AoS 1e they just released everything masked, but people with mental prowess of a toddler cried that they can't recognise humans if the face is coverd. Skip 2-3 year realeas cycle and now all kinds of armies get bare heads when they would have gotten helmets before
I don't know your shit lore and I won't learn any of it until you put out a decent game
simple as that
kek, you won't even do that secondary, you will watch a youtube video and act like you're an expert.
I'm glad you enjoy painting your fantasy themed funkopops, I don't care
now either make a good game out of it or frick off
fun fact: they actually thought it was going to be the new Dawn of War
>why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
darktide probably sold a gorillion copies even though it's shit
SPEHS MUREEN 2 will also sell well
Warhammer was mildly interesting in the 00s, but man has it gotten stupid (maybe it always was)
Why is it that 40k changing ogre/orc/elf to ogryn/ork/eldar isn't controversial, but AoS doing name changes gets people crying to this day? Seams like a massive hypocrisy
because adding an extra vowel is incomprehensible to the ESLs that simp for fantasy, ORRUK I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS IT HAS TO BE ORC OTHERWISE I WON'T GET IT
Ogor is much less derastic change than ogryn and let's not even go down the dwarf->squat rabbit hole, so it can't just be linguistical issue
I've tried this shit. I don't even care that much about Age of Smegmar but the combat is absolute fricking shit. I am not surprised that the player count is ass.
Soulstorm is an actual RTS. Freedom to build your base, defenses and units. This game has zero freedom. You have set units and a corridor map to slog through doing exactly what the devs want. Absolutely trash gameplay.
I haven't even heard of this game. What is this?
>A massive, divinely juiced warrior wearing humongous plate armor (edgy)
>A-OK
>A massive, divinely juiced warrior wearing humongous plate armor (moralgay)
>A crime against humanity
Why this double standard?
> b-becaus....because smegamemes okay. A special army with specials armor is obviously ripping of astartes okay.
> THEY ARE TURNING MY RIP OFF OF FANTASY STUFF INTO A RIPOFF OF WARHAMMER, OH MY SCIENCE SOMEBODY SAVE ME
The idea of trading your soul for power? Moralgayging so hard that sigmar makes you a space marine is cringe.
>this one autistic /tg/ miscarriage valiantly defending Age of Sneedmar and GW's honor online
I really hope you're getting paid per post, your way of writing gives you away, "anon".
I would say the same for Fantasytards but they do it for free
>muh ecelebs
or maybe nobody cares about it because it's shit
but yeah, I'm sure the reason it flopped is some grand conspiracy by ecelebs against your totally original setting and definitely not the fact it's an unappealing corposlop dogshit abomination
just a reminder less than 1000 people played it today
>beaten by a 20 years old game kept alive by mods
it's beaten by a lot of other games see
just a reminder that fantasy models were selling so abysmally that they cancelled the entire setting
>models
who the hell cares?
actually fans of the franchise and not bandwagon morons
>you're not a real fan if you're not shilling out thousands of bucks on shitty plastic toys
thank frick I'm not a “real fan” if that's the case
can't imagine anything more pathetic than being an adult who spends that kind of money on what are essentially funko-pops with dice rules
>thank frick I'm not a “real fan” if that's the case
Yeah, I already knew that glad we are on the same page
>can't imagine anything more pathetic than being an adult who spends that kind of money on what are essentially funko-pops with dice rules
fake fan detected, opinion discarded lol
>he's an actual tabletopcel
> zoomer eceleb react gif'
yup, just as expected
what do you use the paints on moron, Fantasy wasn't selling any models during that time
>Fantasy wasn't selling any models during that time
you guys are just amazing. Keep being yourself, don't change anything.
Games Workshop depends on it! Cheers!
> moronic secondary doesn't know anything about the setting his simping for
kek
>with dice rules
Best part is that GW changes the rules to buff and nerf things so that the paypigs feel compelled to buy the new best thing so they can pretend to play it.
>actual fans of the franchise
So you and the posters on r/sigmarxism lmao?
There clearly aren't many of you given how big of a failure this game was. Why don't you go b***h about it on /tg/ instead of futilely trying to defend the honor of this dead & gay ip on Ganker?
morons who go into video game threads to complain about people not caring about the table top game apparently
I enjoyed the game so far, but the gameplay loop has to click with you. The story was rather good. I liked that Iden turned in to the actual protagonist and him having to deal with the weight off command.
Dankfear was a nice villain. I hope they reuse him some way, but i doubt that.
With the ending cutting to black i hope we will get a followup somehow (either as dlc or a sequel)
What is it about Age of Signar fans that makes them sound so robotic?
the OpenAI software
the fact that anti-AoS gays repeat the same tired means and arguments ad nauseum
Stuff like this is exactly what I mean, I see endless nitpicking at people who hate AoS but when it comes to saying good things about it you guys don't say a peep
GW don't pay them as much now that The Old World marketing is rolling out
what will be the cope when Old World flops and Fantasy is axed a second time. Because non of the TWgays are going to be buying minis since they are poor third worlders like
AoS is so frequently dismissed the instant it gets brought up that the fans that do exist are just tired and bitter of having to defend it, since it pretty much never works and people still instantly just respond with
>Age of Smegma
>But muh Fantasy
>Hurr hurr Sigmarines
Severe autism.
The type of autism that leads to someone throwing a six hour long (and counting) b***hfit because people just won’t leave his setting alone, while being blissfully unaware that they’ve rang the dinner bell for every shitposter who wants an easy (you)
Even noldorgay has learned that he needs to at least pretend he’s not seething when he gets his tendies in a twist
as warhammer newbies they have been programmed by reddit which is why they are soulless and have no taste
If someone gift me this game i will make a youtube review of it
just wait a month, it'll be at a -90% discount soon enough
more like Age of Smegmar
>age of shitmar
AoS introduced the best faction GW has ever designed.
>orruks
>advertise muh female paladin to leave a false impression female empowerment will be protag
>nobody plays the shit
lmao
> Paladin
Begone secondary scum
Games Workshop is the only company that I can think of that own a setting, a thing that costs them literally nothing because it's a setting, and then go out of their way to discontinue and erase it just because they stopped making physical merchandise for it.
I genuinely don't understand how a company can be both so greedy and stupid at the same time, any other company would just sit on it and leave it at that but GW just HAD to erase it to... make an awful backstory to introduce Age of Sigmar.
Then they license the setting out to video game developers, some of which made good games in it and now they're scrambling to continue selling physical shit to try to sell it to video game players, who are a different market, that happened to like 1-2 games in their setting.
Their production capabilities are streached to their limits as is. They had to bring over rotation from LotR for old 40k heroes and Underworld bands, because having them be avalibe to order at any time just wans't possible. Even with supported ranges you can get long periods of no restocks (during pandemic it got so bad some paints were out of stock for months).
Just having somehting be supported forever doesn't work with how thier bussiness operates
Again, owning a setting costs them literally nothing.
Discontinuing physical merchandise is understandable for a company that made most of their money from them but then going and declaring the setting obsolete and going out of your way to de-canonize it is just a horrible business decision because of exactly the situation they find themselves in.
Warhammer fantasy is a very good setting for video games and those video games introduced a lot more people to their brand, in a setting they foolishly declared not canon nor active.
Warhammer fantasy games and 40k books got me into Warhammer stuff, I'm not going to buy their physical shit though, I'm just confused about this decision of their to end their fantasy setting from a business standpoint.
>Their production capabilities are stretched to their limits as is.
like how?
every moron can own 3d printer now and printing is fricking cheap
they could print on demand and specific models and profit
moron that’s not how tabletop setting work
>Download the demo during NextFest
>Don't get around to playing it until a week after it ends because busying playing other demos
>ERROR: LICENSE REVOKED. YOU MUST BUY THE GAME FOR $60
What the actual frick lmao
>Tabletop company is based around maming money with tabletop miniatures
>One setting of miniatures is not selling well
>Company, being a tabletop company that sells miniatures, ends that setting to introduce a new one
>Ganker, a in which most individuals do not buy models and openly scirns buying models, royally shits itself at the idea of this
>Even though the previous setting was doing terribly, the company clearly should have continued it because Ganker says so, even though they don't buy models and scoff at the idea of it
>People who engage with the setting outside of the tabletop game that no one cared about don't like the setting being nuked for an inferior one
Whoa...........
>Engage with setting that is based around a tabletop game
>Tabletop game does poorly because people evidently don't care enough about the setting to play it.
>Anons are shocked when the company, which makes their money with tabletop games, ends the setting for the tabletop game that was doing poorly
>Even then they still offer some products from the setting
So you're mad that they replaced a dying setting with a new one, even though that new one is significantly more successful than the old one?
>So you're mad that they replaced a dying setting with a new one, even though that new one is significantly more successful than the old one?
So successful it's failing a little less than the old one but still failing?
Are you mentally moronic?
Try those mental gymnastic cope equations on someone else.
Two turds that stink different are still turds in the end.
Fantasy sold less than paints.
AoS is only beaten by Battletech, DnD, and 40k.
The only metric that Fantasy 'beats' AoS in is vidya, which is pennies to anyone outside this board.
Grow up.
You should consider suicide.
>WAW WAW THE SETTING I DIDN'T SPEND MONEY ON GOT REPLACED BECAUSE NOBODY WAS SLENDING MONEY ON IT, HOW DARE THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE SETTING DO THIS, WAH!
>NO THEY ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE ROTTING CORPSE OF A SETTING BECAUSE I SAY SO AND MY OPINION MATTERS, IGNORE THAT THE NEW SETTING IS MAKING WAY MORE MONEY! THAT DOESN'T MATTER! I WANT THE OLD SETTING BACK! WAH!
Again, what point are you making?
Your underage blabber won't unfail the fail that this has become. Are you mentally moronic?
You are arguing against cause effect that already passed you dumb moron.
The cause was people are focused on 8 hours of work/studying, 8 hours of sleep, and have 8 hoours left over in their daily life to spend on family, food, and hobby. 8 hours, which are stretched across hundreds of hobbies, and within those hobbies hundreds of brands.
In this one, your setting failed the same as the setting it was supposed to replace, because nobody has time for it.
This thread is proof nobody has time for your setting, because they'd rather spend it here shitposting than engaging in your garbage setting, yourself included. That's the biggest joke now, you.
>This setting sells less than the Big Three
>Therefore it is a failure
>Please ignore that it's still outpacing dozens of others and far outperforms the setting it replaced, that doesn't matter because I say so.
And I'm here because I'm shitposting from work, moron.
Got a game scheduled for this weekend already.
>Has to schedule a game ahead of time with his cuck furry friend
I can go to my LGS right now and get a game of 40k
>because I say so.
Because GW said so, because the CFO said so.
Again, a fail is a fail, a fail replacing a fail is still a fail.
Your underage blabber won't undo what happened. Nobody wants to play your shit, they want to spend money on better things they can trust more.
At this point you are just mentally ill because someone trying to undo reality with pointless words is the definition of mental illness.
Mad because no one wants to play your gay, overpriced tabletop game with you.
It would do you a lot of good.
>AoS is only beaten by Battletech, DnD, and 40k.
>only beaten by
Only beaten by 3 fricking brands all of which, unto themselves, monopolize 90% of the market's attention span, ergo this failed as well.
What dogshit cope psychological manipulation is this you are trying? Is there even a point?
There's so much shit to engage in elsewhere, that nobody has time for your garbage, ergo it failed here.
What's there not to understand here dumbass?
Making one shit which fails less than another shit, but still fails, doesn't change the fact that it's shit. What's difficult to understand here?
>Grow up.
Grown up people don't care about corporations' feelings. Only kids get offended when someone says that their beloved Sony is garbage.
>beaten by Battletech
based, get fricked Age of chinkmar
People here aren't GW stockholders, nobody cares about how the company is doing, people see a shitty setting and say what they think about it.
>Engage with setting that is based around a tabletop game
You know that a setting coming from a specific type of product doesn't require every product of that setting to be of the same type you know, yes?
Tolkien's Middle-earth originally comes from successful books but there exist other successful products in that setting that are not books.
>Tabletop company makes setting
>Setting is about tabletop game
>Tabletop game dies
>Tabletop company ends setting
>"But what if they kept it around?"
How the frick fo you think TWW happened you absolute fricking buffoon.
>But LotR
LotR is successful. Fantasy was not.
Why are they bringing fantasy back if they don't think it will sell anything?
>How the frick fo you think TWW happened you absolute fricking buffoon.
By using the setting as source material, the models were created long ago and can be created without a tabletop product line existing.
>LotR is successful. Fantasy was not.
Do you think Warhammer fantasy started out as a commercial failure?
Also it literally is successful, Total War Warhammer and Vermintide are proof of that, you're just seething because that success is not in the form of overpriced plastic.
>Total War Warhammer and Vermintide
They both came after Fantasy was slated to end and have no bearing on tabletop sales, which is what matters to the company since they don't make full profit off games. One tabletop player can be worth ten times a TWW player, or more. Anon I know this is Ganker and people like to put games first, but TWW being successful absolutely does not equate to Fantasy itself being successful as a complete whole. When Old World releases it's going to show that. Interest in one aspect of a setting isn't enough to keep it afloat when it's not the central aspect of it.
There is a very long explanation for that, but there were multiple reasons for it beyond just wanting new factions to sell.
>When Old World releases it's going to show that
I agree, because most people with an interest in the fantasy setting interact with it mostly through video games. The setting can exist in the form of video games and other media that isn't tabletop. I doubt even 5% of the people who play the fantasy games give a shit about the tabletop and its models.
The central issue is just that GW is a miniature company and doesn't care as much about video games because they don't make as much money off them.
TWW and Vermintide were a success BECAUSE GW was hands off with them and didn't expect much.
>They had to nuke the setting instead of sun-setting it and allowing it to continue to exist mainly through books, games and the occasional spin-off tabletop RPG
>It doesn't matter that the new setting sucks either because after we made all of your old models redundant and tried to push it really hard it started to sell more than the old one that was dead in the water after multiple trash editions
>Also we're going to bring back The Old World anyway but it's totally not because we messed up
Most people can understand the business decision to move on from Fantasy, but the way it was done was dumb. As for why people have the AUDACITY to criticise GW, it's probably because they don't give a frick about the tabletop game? The decision to replace Fantasy with AoS only matters if you care about the financial well being of GW (which was already doing great) or desperately enjoy playing AoS on the tabletop (which barely anyone does). Still bizarre to me that you can still order literally who LotR characters but the entire Fantasy line got stuck in storage for close to a decade
Also, why did they have to nuke the setting? Originally I thought that all factions are completely new, but then I've looked into it and all the factions are pretty similar. Couldn't they just retire some old minis add Sigmarines to the setting?
Honestly the Executive team at the time were dizzyingly moronic in myriad ways and they finally got out of the way shortly after AoS came out. Since then GW has been less moronic, but by then Fantasy had been nuked and as the production schedule is booked up to around 5 years in advance we're only just able to get it back in limited form around 2024. You know how the Xbone was a total clusterfrick because the CEO at the time thought Kinect + TV + DRM was the winning formula? Same kind of obliviousness from GW, entirely fed by numbers that said that Fantasy was selling bad so we need a reboot (just like how Xbone's TV focus was due to Xbros using their 360's to watch Netflix).
, being a tabletop company that sells miniatures, ends that setting to introduce a new one
There's your problem.
Trying to introduce new garbage shit to replace garbage shit. The problem is there's no more fricking attention span to monopolize. Stick with what's working, not with the dumbhomosexualry nobody has time for in these dire economic and social times. Stupidhomosexuals. Especially not some gay ass moronic marginalized groups bullshittery like Disney is now learning nobody gives a single shit about when they develop real life personal priorities.
Sounds like your to poor for models, why are you seething
>ugly strong wyman protagonist
kiss of death
Why are AoS shills calling everyone secondary instead of defending the setting in any way, shape or form? Why would anyone ever want to play this game? It looks like Warhammer fantasy with fantasy Space Marines and dumb names.
>do you know anything about the thing?
>lol no and i won't read anythig about it, i will just make shit up to get mad at
Do you see why defens is pointless with this level of "discusion"? We're 8 years into this and people most mad about it still fight strawmen that don't even exist half the time
It a visual medium moron. Nobody needs to read black library schlock to determine that it is a shit setting. Just a cursory glance is enough.
I'm not talking about Blakc Library, i know that if i sepnt more than 5 seconds on a comment morons ITT will just stop reading and make up something like the slavery shit right under you where after getting btfo Anon pretands the issue is still totally real
I've seen the trailer and it didn't look any good. What else should I know that would magically change my opinion about it? WH40k homosexuals can't shut up about things they think is cool about the setting, Fantasy homosexuals can't shut up about how much they despise AoS, AoS gays can't shut up about how everyone who doesn't play their game is either a secondary or an ESL.
This thread has 200+ posts and only one tries to say something good about the setting.
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO CONSOOM PLASTIC IN ORDER TO HAVE AN OPINION ON AGE OF LIGMAR! YOU WON'T SAY IT LOOKING GAY AND moronic IS A SELF-EVIDENT FACT AFTER YOU SINK SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS INTO THE HOBBY YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN!
>hear about a new "warhammer" RTS
>check it out
>it's not real warhammer, it's some shitty gay fantasy setting with le stronk independent womyn with one of those moronic looking "empowerment" undercut lesbian haircuts
>immediately lose interest
can't be the only one who immediately checked out
they need to bring back real warhammer RTS, not whatever this shit is or the absolute abortion of a game dawn of war 3 was
A secondary like you wouldn’t know real Warhammer if it bashed your fricking skull in
He's right though little shitmar piggy. AoS isn't real Warhammer and everyone knows it, it's high fantasy WoWshit with a gay baby ruleset and an even gayer aesthetic.
>posting a pedo to support your post
really makes you think
>Attacks the image instead of the post
lol
lmao
you deny the truth anyways, so who fricking cares.
>Thinks I'm the same anon he was arguing with
An ever bigger lol
And an ever bigger lmao
do you honestly think its not the same 3-5 dozen guys in these threads that want to be mad?
oh really, tell me what you dislike about the 2e rules
stay malding /tg/ranny
nobody gives a frick about ass of shitmar
Dawn of War is what people(not you gw paypiggies) actually care about
>Dawn of War is what people(not you gw paypiggies) actually care about
based, hopefully they make a third one some day
I 100% agree, it's been 12 years since the last game in the franchise and it really could use a good modern sequel
Point out that GW is hurrying to put a new edition of Fantasy out and watch as the trannies turn themselves into pretzels trying to explain it.
80 fricking dollars for an age of shitmar RTS game. Who the FRICK was the target audience?
16 year old neckbeards I guess
They wanted a piece of that tasty GW fanboy pie and ended up with the only /tg/ setting that gets relentlessly shit on everywhere outside of it's designated hugbox.
Refunded it, game sucks
simple as
Why are we pretanding quarteryl results are constant thing. Aos i the 2nd best after 40k most of the time and that survey is without countign anythign sold directly by GW so anythigng you order online or in a physical GW sotre isn't even counted, meaning GW brands are actually way further ahead of the brands that relie on 3rd party stores only
If you stopped writing like a moron your samegayging would be less obvious.
>Aos i the 2nd best after 40k
sorry but horus heresy already took the 2nd spot
maybe aos can be 4th after the old world
>after the old world
>He doesn't know
HH doen't even show up in the rankings. It's in side gmes room with Middle Earth and Blood Bowl
>troonymar player still coping
sad
>stubbornly denies reality
>gets mad when called out
>dares to call others tranies
Always accuse your enemy of you're doing, am i right "sis"
your setting is doing so badly that gw decided to bring back the old system instead
Age of smegmar looks like marvel tier mobile game aesthetic slop. It's like they set out to make the most bland consumer friendly tripe that's meant to appeal to a broad audience but fails to attract attention from anyone.
because they treat their games like the boardgame and want to charge you $300 for a finished product that should be worth more like $40
>why doesn't anybody care about modern Warhammer games?
>kruleboyz
>stormcast
>nighthaunts
They probably though the game was a chinese bootleg of warhammer.
They could add the new dwarfs. I admit they look pretty cool. Who the frick even releases a fantasy strategy games without any dwarfs?
Why is fantasy getting all the love? 40k's setting is way safer. and dont tell me 40k has had more games who cares total war warhammer has been worth like 20 40k games.
Iirc, the launch new factions of AoS were notSpace Marines in Fatcast Eternals, notChaos Space Marines, Orruks(c), entire faction of fat naked slayer dwarfs including pic related legendarily terrible model and Sylvaneth who are actually pretty cool. Overall pretty awful first impression.
1E AoS was an absolute dumpster fire in pretty much every way except some models, and is what poisoned opinion of the setting in many ways.
Also Chaos Space Marines are just Chaos Warriors in space.
WH40K itself started as WHF in space. AoS has just brought it full circle to being WH40K Fantasy in space.
Everything about AoS comes off as a bad fanfic.
it certainly is tumblr-tier in its entirety
That's because the writers grew up on tumblr
The worst part of this is that modern 40k is worse than modern AoS.
Yes, it's awfull!
>Bring back squats.
>Bring back genestealer cults
>Bring back beastmen
>Adeptus Mechanicus full fledged army
>FINALLY new tyranids
>FINALLY new sisters of battle
>Imperial knights a gogo
>New minis for every single chaos space marine legion (except slanesh)
>adeptus arbites, kroot, rogue trader and assorted weirdos from over the galaxy minis, incluiding zoats.
>Epic resurrected, this time horus heresy themed
>Necromunda resurrected, this time bigger than ever.
>Traitor Primarchs
>New necrons
>New eldar
>New orks
>Ork kommandos
But oh!!! the horror!!! PRIMARIS MARINES!!! oh the humanity!!.
The funny thing about your post is that literally none of it actually matters besides only one of those points, and a sizeable portion of them aren't even for 40k itself.
>Admech and GSC aren't new. Knights and Sisters barely qualify as modern either at this point.
>Squats are back, only they aren't squats, and also they immediately flopped.
>New Tyranids look good. Were instantly forgotten about in favor of Marines.
>World Eaters was basically a joke faction. It exists to sell Angron. TSons are slightly better off, but only just.
>The weirdos exist for Kill Team, because KT is actually still somewhat creative (except with DEldar lmao). Some exist for other side games.
>Necromunda exists for conversion fodder. Nothing more.
>Epic brought back, now exclhding every faction that isn't Marines or IG With Marines. Also the models for it are laughably fricking awful quality wise.
>Traitor Primarchs now exist to lose to Loyalist Primarchs.
>New Necrons only exist so they can lose to Marines when Guilliman shows up at the Pariah Nexus.
>Eldar got new models then got absolutely butchered in the setting. They might as well not exist in 40k now.
>Orks get new models, instantly lose at Octarius, Kommandos are KT.
Meanwhile,
>Factions that don't have Primarchs might as well not exist.
>Majority of the fighting for the 4th Tyrannic War was IG vs Nids. Marines still got the focus.
>Entire major plot event happened at end of 9th. Turns out it only exists so they could bring back Lion in the most stupidly asinine way they could shove in.
>Farsight got a campaign book. It was about how he lost to some random Chaos shmucks, because xenos aren't allowed to be important.
>Marine homosexualry runs rampant. 90% of 40k media is Marine related. GW is intent on shovinf every non-Marine faction to the side to make Horus Heresy 2.0, and at this point it can't be stopped.
To be fair, it's pretty shitty if you're a Spess Mehreen player. And, unfortunately, it's the Spess Mahreens that get 90% of the attention.
>New minis for every single chaos space marine legion
Call me when we get acknowledgement and unique codex for all of the traitor marines.
You're going to get more Black Legion and you're going to like it!
you got one for the death guard, another for the world eaters , the thousand sons and the generic chaos space marines and cultists. And a week ago you got night lords minis.
Give me Alpha Legion with imposter and camo mechanics from Infinity or don't bother.
>tl;dr
how are you doing fellow kids?
kys
>Age of Shit
Still not playing it, bring back Fantasy you homosexuals.
because its age of shitmar
the lore is the most corporate soulless shit ever invented
I have no vested interest in this, why is age of sigmar considered bad for the most part?
It's capeshit. Instead of being somewhat grounded in a sense of realism, every single faction is full of sparkling superpowered fairies who can fly through space at 1000x the speed of light while summoning fireballs with their mind. It's extremely stupid and they actively try to market it to children.
AoS's first edition was an incredibly bad game and setting. It was very clearly slapped together with little thought put into either part of it and was, naturally, a colossal failure. A mamagement shift occured, and going into its Second Edition AoS received an almost complete overhaul to the setting and rules. This was a significant improvement, but damage was already done in a lot of ways and it's still sorta being fixed.
Generally speaking, many consider it bad becauseof what it replaced. Warhammer Fantasy was a good setting with a bad game tied to it. The previous management did nothing to really help the game, and the setting went with it. Many view AoS's replacing of Fantasy with scorn and indignation since, as mentioned earlier, AoS's First Edition was absolute garbage.
This is coupled with the fact that after Fantasy died, an extremely popular strategy game was made for the setting, bringing in lots of new fans who then realized that the setting of the game was actually dead and buried.
>every single faction is full of sparkling superpowered fairies who can fly through space at 1000x the speed of light while summoning fireballs with their mind
You know literally nothing of AoS.
nice leftist meme
>with a bad game tied to it
Filtered.
Most people dont really engage with the hobby due to not having the easy entry that 40k and fantasy have with video games and co. often just spouting old memes (that certain lore youtubers spread)
As for the game itself, it was the awful launch it had. Fantasy had a very dense and clomlex rule system and early AoS pretty much gutted it. It was also the discarding of the established world, which lead to a feeling of betrayal in the hardcore fanbase of whfb.
If you wanna learn more about it, i suggest watching this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSgtqUCTpi0
It's lore? WACK
It's names? WACK
It's models? WACK
It's rules? WACK
The way that it replaced wfb? WACK
The way that it is only liked by homosexuals and trannies? WACK
You talk like a Black person
I've only ever seen ONE good age of shitmar mini
>come here to post "more like age of smegmar"
>just to be safe I ctrl-f "smeg"
>18 results
I'm such a fricking unoriginal fraud and I hate myself so fricking much.
Remember when they tried to copyright Dwarves and Elves but couldn't so made some shitty store brand names for them
Remember that in-setting Dwarfs already called themselves "Dawi" and had a whole fake language dictionary but they renamed them to Duardin instead for no reason. Remember that every "new" faction on launch was compromised of an existing faction's most popular special unit, so the Dwearves got an all-slayer army and the Deark Ealves got an all-bawd army and the Oarks got an all-Black Orc army but also spun off Savage Orks to be all All-Savage Army that made like four new cope units out of existing kits. Remember all the cope units made from rebashing existing kits. "Hey look, Crypt Flayers!" Remember them bringing back Gotrek out of desperation along with every other named character because they didn't ACTUALLY want a clean break from the old setting, and now all the same dramatis personae are kicking around 10000000000 years in the future. Remember when they named the new lizardmen after a GAY FURRY PORN ARTIST.
>Remember when they named the new lizardmen after a GAY FURRY PORN ARTIST
Say what now
They called them Seraphon as a play on Seraphim becaus they wanted them to be the polar oposit of Daemons narratively.
When tww 2 made all of furraffinity flood into warhammer it turned out some homosexual used the word 1st
Fricking lmao, what an absolute shitshow. Didn't they also model the dick for one of the dragons? Heard something like that some time ago from a friend
Yea they hired some furry modeler and he puts wiener sheathes on every model he gets tasked with
The absolute fricking state
got any pics?
Not before the thread is archived.
A ray of light in times of /tg/'s darkest seething.
>Surely we don't need to google "Seraphon" before we make it a faction name
They purged the shit from the internet very effectively but it took them several funny funny weeks.
Is correct. In Old Warhammer, to be specific, there was already a named dragon character called Seraphon. Which inspired our GAY FURRY PORN artist, but went unnoticed by GW since they presumably assumed they already owned the copyright and didn't need to look further.
Specifically the dick sheath which is (apparently) one of those subtle animal anatomy features that FURRIES seem to fetishize. But the same kit's heads were the worst and most damning part, because they look EXACTLY like the face of some anthro art OC instead of an actual dragon. It's incredible.
It's not Warhammer, it's AoS. Darktide, Boltgun, TWWH3 and VT2 are all active and successful games. Nobody gives a frick about AoS outside of the tabletop, and even there it's trailing behind 40k, Battletech and probably Horus Heresy at this point. The setting is shit. Nobody is invested in it like they are in every other Warhammer property, that's just a fact.
>Boltgun
>active and successful game
couldn't tell
its an 8 hour long boomer shooter
what did you expect
>what did you expect
more than 7,500 concurrent players
225k-350k estimated sales on Steam alone. It probably sold a milly EZ, which is more than you can say about any piece of AoS media.
>release AoS vidya
>feature none of AoS interesting factions, nor the degenerate bait factions
They wanted it to fail.
A Reiklander imperial professor was teaching a class on old world history
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Sigmar and accept that the Empire he created is the greatest Nation in the entire world, even greater than Bretonnia!”
At this moment, a brave, pious, chivalrous and Lady blessed Knight from Couronne who had cavalry charged hundreds of times and understood the necessity of a powerful feudal system and fully supported all military decisions made by Louen Leoncoeur stood up.
”Who is ze greatest ruler in history, imperial cur?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite unchivalrously and smugly replied “Sigmar, you stupid Bret”
”Wrong. It’s Gilles le Breton. If Sigmar is as great as you say… then why is Age of Sigmar so shit?”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Testaments of Sigmar. He stormed out of the room crying those imperial crocodile tears. The same tears imperials cry when Knights blessed by the lady are untouched by their cowardly "gunfire" due to Ward saves. There is no doubt that at this point our professor wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a filthy dishonorable Imperial peasant.
The students applauded and relinquished all their worldly possessions that day and gave their bodies heart and soul to the Lady which they sought. A pegasus named “Bretonnian hegemony” flew into the room and draped itself in Bretonnian heraldry and shed a tear on the chalk. The Knightly oaths were recited several times, and the Green Knight himself showed up and slayed all undead, greenskin and chaos scum in the land.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He tried to flee back east to his shit "empire" but a gang of roving Grail Pilgrims stabbed him to death.
FOR ZE LADY!
Have a Snickers Anon.
>age of sigmar
>games workshop
Stop being a brainless consoomer Anon. It's not because the name of your favorite franchise of toys is on a game you need to pay for it. Respect yourself more, Reals of Ruin is shit, simple as that.
Nothing to do with being a Warhammer game.
>Age of Smegmar
nah, I'd rather play total war
Honestly I'm kinda glad Shitmar exists because Games Workshop can put all their wokeshit like femmarines and yaaas queen slay strong sheboons in it for ESG bux and leave 40k the frick alone.
WTF is this? Mother fricking FAS queen Greta Thunberg slicing hand rubbin' long nose goblins? Didn't know nu-GW is this based.
Have you compleatly missed the whoel Sister of Battle releas?
sisters of battle are hot
>t. hasn't seen the actual models
>Have you compleatly missed the whoel Sister of Battle release?
They can be painted well and they still don't look like she hulks or act like yaas queen woke c**ts.
Not to mention you can just put their helmets on instead if you don't like their face models.
I think GW just wants humans in Warhammer to be ugly, and it just shows more on the female models. The Elf/Eldar heads tend to be pretty alright in comparison.
Sigmar got a bit carried away with his hammer when remaking her.
Warhammer Fantasy has genestealers now?
Don't insult Genestealers like that, they look downright beautiful in comparison.
Unironically though. I'd let her steal my genes.
If you got her pregnante she would give birth to
Even genestealers mog shitmarines
It's not really hard to see why Warhammer Fantasy is Better than AoS.
Landsknecht >>>> Not!SpaceMarines.
Simple as.
>Warhammer
>RTS
>2012+11
yikes
There was an AoS game in the making?
Why is the defense of AoS online always about shareholders value and not about what people actually like about the setting?
Cause people are made about some fake idea in their head and not actual AoS setitng they know basically nothing about and proudly admit they have zero idea what they are talking about
pretty much this. it is already hard enough to speak out against the headcanon of people for 40k.
I take one look at the AoS models and they all look like overdesigned garbage, actually.
this is regrettably intentional, as was the name changes, it's all to frick over recasters/proxiers. Hilariously one of the best selling AoS armies has some of the best proxies since there's only so many ways to design lizardman with a club.
So since you seen to be an expert on it tell us some AoS stories you like and why you like certain factions
because their only answer to any criticism of the setting:
>secondaries!
>ecelebs!
>chuds!
>you didn't read enough age of sigmar books!
Because nobody unironically defends AoS. It's just shitposters looking for easy (You)s.
Because in their hearts, they know it's dogshit. They're just plastic addicted little paypiggies who have shoveled too much of GW's shit to turn back now.
Because when i do no one responds and the same question will be asked every time some gay makes a thread about it.
>good tabletop game with good rules
>lore is irrelevant so everyone has /your dudes/ with no loregayging
>less people play so the store smells less than 40k day when i play at the store
It's a boomer feel you gays wouldn't and shouldn't try to get.
Because when people actually do bring up the setting the response is usually "Lol homosexual you're gay, AoS sucks".
And they would be right.
Because it's just cross-posting /tg/ morons who don't know how to earnestly defend the appeal of the setting without falling into the trap of
>well ok BUT if you pay a bunch of money for plastic it's ACHKTUALLY really good ok???
So instead of posting cool art or lore or describing how the setting is better than WHFB you just get told you aren't allowed to have an opinion unless you spent hundreds of dollars on plastic. Even though we're discussing the setting alone as it pertains to videogames which have all flopped because no one cares about the setting.
>SECONDARY SECONDARY SECONDARY ALALALALALAAL ITS ACTUALLY RELALY POPULAR AT MY LGS
Go back to your containment general ffs this is Ganker
AoS fans did use to say what they like. They still got shunned because it wasn't muh Fantasy. Ganker will never like AoS because it doesn't have a big knockout game to anchor it, and it never will because modern GW doesn't view games as a proper medium for anything except ads.
I have never seen an AoS fan say what they like except the rules and some good quality models
When RoR first popped up I brought up Lumineth and somebody immediately replied shouting about Cow Elves, even though they're only a small part of Lumineth that most people don't like anyways. I once brought up that I like the whole situation with Slaanesh going on and only got called a gay for it. You literally are not allowed to talk about things you like in AoS or half a dozen screaming chimps will throw a fit.
Okay then, as an exercise lets all go around and say one thing (you) like about Asian Sigmar. I'll start.
Almost all of the Nighthaunt models are sweet. The nu-orcs, who look like LOTR orcs, are also cool and better than just reusing WHFB orcs.
Eltharion's revival and new model are two things I really like.
malding AoS trannies actually delude themselves into thinking their turd is a masterpiece
absolutely hilarious the reality check this game is giving them
>Outstanding Story Rich Game
That's the best category they could've picked, LMAO
Even if *every* player bother to vote, they wouldn't even get a thousand votes.
why would you try to get into any category you might share with BG3 this year
How does someone see this and not laugh out loud
BRO BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S ACTUALLY DEEP AND COMPLEX YOU CLEARLY DON'T GET THE REASON IT LOOKS LIKE MARVELSLOP
How did we go from this to THAT?
because you're looking at the wrong art, sigmarines aren't the empire they are ultramarines with crossbows. Empire became these guys
This looks....way worse
unironically looks like ai art
I prefer the old one
Soul.
Soulless
Because it IS worse.
Shit. That's what it is..
> old good new bad
We get it can we move on and provide something with a little more substance
> old good new bad
Unironically, yes in this case.
>little more substance
Well, ain't going to find any of that in AoS.
> still no arguments
I'm waiting anon, lay it all out why Fantasy didn't deserve to be cancelled and why AoS stuck and try to have be an actual sentence and not another catchphrase that homosexuals spam on here
>le airships 😉
zzz
what the frick is this
every face a meme
Even DoW3 retained a higher player count.
I played the game. Setting is boring with legally distinct and copyrightable names for everything instead of just saying orc and designs look like knockoff blizzard, and there's generally no flavor or character like DoW had, no good quotable barks or anything. Gameplay is middling so why would anyone care?
we wuz sigmarites and shit
1st decent art piece I've seen of humans in AoS but their aesthetic is all over the place and its ruined by space marines smacked on
that gold and blue is like the most basic b***h good guy color scheme ever
All they need to do
>stop talking about Spess Mehreen 2 when it's still in development, they fricked up by hyping it first instead of releasing a public beta or something
>remaster the original Dawn of War plus all expansions, it's the easiest cash grab they can do
>kick Creative Assembly in the nuts and threaten to take the Warhammer Fantasy license from them if they're still not shitting $10-$15 DLCs every quarter
the tabletop age of sigmar is just too wacky for me. People want normal elves but instead we get underwater elves riding sharks. people want normal dwarves but instead we get lava dwarves... fantasy works best when its closer to folk lore
> thinly veiled fantasy seethe thread
TW:WH III is fricking trash and fantasygays get what they fricking deserve
>and fantasygays get what they fricking deserve
by that do you mean getting a bunch of new models and their game system back?
if yes then I agree
> dark elves
> no skaven
> no lizardmen
sure you get it back
Still doing better than your game. Not even 1000 players.
> consolewargayging
lol, actually hobbyist play the hobby instead of impotently seething about a setting that was cancelled before their vidyaslop was produced
Why did they release a AoS game then?
as an ad for tabletop which is what all these are for, the only reason Old World is coming back is because of the popularity of TW, but most secondaries on here are poorgays that will let fantasyflop twice lol, can't wait
How much did they spend on it? Because i'm there sure were cheaper ways of getting a couple (if that) more players.
you know for someone so insistent on the primacy of the tabletop you sure are obsessed with the opinions of secondaries
Is there an "Earth" equivalent in Age of Sigmar? Where do the multiple factions fight? How do they interact outside of war?
do you mean "earth as in place where people live" or "kinda normal place where crazy shit is more rare than usual"?
place where people live, particularly people of different factions and races
Each Realm has their own types of cities, towns and settlements. Most Order related ones are closer to the centers of each Realm, where magic is generally tamer and things aren't hostile. Realms heavily dictate way of life for normal everyday people. In Hysh cities are orderly and clean, in Ghyran they're open and more natural, and in Chamon they're extremely industrial. This isn't even getting into the Chaos and Death cultures.
Each Realm is pretty much a plane in itself with plenty of variety.
The mortals (orks, elfs, humans, etc.) live spread through out the mortal realms. Each realm is connected to a wind of magic, which influences their existance.
The center of each realm is the most stable and hospitable one, leading to the largest settlements being created there. For example, the inner / "prime" lands of gyhran, the realm of life, is known for its lush grass lands and very good farmland. you will have rather peaceful farmer settlements there more often than for example in aqshy, the realm of fire. In the realm of fire you will have savannas and deserts more common in the centre.
Now the further you stray from the center of each realm, the more extreme it gets. For example: in Ghur, the realm of beasts, you have rather vicious beasts in the center of the realm, yet in the further out regions life for normal humans would best be described as "monster hunter but you dont have huge ass weapons and its a lot more bloody". On the edge of the realm you would end up with land masses like mountains or islands "fighting each other" as in clashing and destroying each other.
The Realm of Death, Shysh, would be the inversion of this, but only due to a progression that happened in 2e AoS.
>near the edges of Gyhran people will spontaneously become pregnant, including men, and give birth within days
>Gyhran water is so healthy for you it's traded in every realm and forms the backing of all recognized currency
>literal continent in Gyhran is locked in total war due to Nurgles waifuhomosexualry
Most interesting plane by far
>>near the edges of Gyhran people will spontaneously become pregnant, including men, and give birth within days
more like age of buttbabies
No they do the hyena thing and push the kids out their dick
so they split their dicks open in order to play women?
is that an allegory for the gender reassignment surgeries the vast majority of Age of Sigmar players have undergone?
the players need to be able to identify with the product after all
I don't get it. They already have Warhammer in space. Why did they destroy the fantasy world and replace it with MORE Warhammer in space???
because rank and flank games were dying, and GW only did moronic things to try and save fantasy like release the worst rules ever printed for the largest range refresh of the time.
AoS was originally intended to just be something silly you do while drinking with the boys. People got so mad that GW was forced to release real rules, and accidentally made one of their best rulesets ever.
so it would be like if each "country" of warhammer fantasy was instead a separate plane like different planets instead of all being in one location. Then those planes are separated by magic or something akin to space.
Closer to if you took the border princes regions and just reflavored the environment.
not really, as each realm is pretty much inhabited by all types of mortals. So you will find Orks outside of the realm of beasts and undead outside of the realm of death.
Each realm's basically their own big continent. Most have at least some kind of presence for most factions to justify inclusions, and travel between then is through only by preset magic portals.
The edges of rach Realm are also pure magic. Few things can survive there, and only undead can actually 'survive' in the void between realms. There are some few sub-realms but access to them is tricky, since they're often Chaos related.
its only the battlefield where they teleport to when they wanna fight
Why did WHFB have so many good tabletop RPGs when AoS hasnt had any?
FB was a well-developed and thought-out world, AOS as a setting is basically just an excuse for fights.
>so many good tabletop rpgs
how is one edition of the only whfb rpg so many?
Whats the Battle of Black Fire Pass of AoS?
Denuvo is a death sentence for niche games like this. I don't know why publishers/studios are this moronic. Piracy of this game would unironically drive sales up.