The party killed a herd of elephants guarding a mining outcrop growing solid titanium. They took the titanium and had the bard forge it into a greatsword and full plate mail. What should the stats be?
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Its titanium, so wearing/wielding it grants titanstrength
Exactly. Fantasy titanium doesn't have to be real world titanium. Give it stats worthy of the name
>Its titanium, so wearing/wielding it requires titanstrength
ftfy
Titan is very light.
What's lighter, a kilogram of titan or a kilogram of aluminum?
>Titanium has a melting point of over 1600 C
And?
dragon breath can't melt titanium plate
Then how did buildings 1 and 2 collapse into their own footprints?
Cooled air drawn upward into a superheated cauldron of jet fuel melting the internal supports and falling through the center of the building's weaker interior. Negative pressure inside with normal pressure outside, internal supports failing inward makes for a rather simple picture for even an idiot to understand.
Too bad modern kids are actually worse.
[Also, they collapsed outside their footprints as well. The debris was everywhere over the entire block of the city. Stop reading memes as your only source of knowledge.]
It should be lighter and faster than a steel sword of equal size, but titanium in its pure form is to hard for a sword, and would be brittle against strikes and bends.
Cleaves gobbos and bandits with ease, shatters if used on armor or a golem or something.
Just making it a bit lighter and a bit better would likely work out the best, since that's what people expect. Trying to match real world performance is a lot iffier (and not just because the combat system and equipment statting in various games often aren't all that realistic to begin with, though that certainly adds considerably to the problem). Pure titanium for a start will be absolute shite. Titanium alloys, well, they can largely match steel in strength and hardness (yep, the absolute wondermetal people expect it ain't), at just over half the weight, but are well behind in stiffness. So the question is how well you re-design things to account for this, which properties you optimize for, trial and error to find which compromises are the smart ones... Apply this (with a suitable Ti-based alloy) to a greatsword and we should be able to keep a similar edge about equally well, it's less likely to take damage from heat, you could make things a bit lighter but that also takes some of the oomph out of the hits. We'd likely need to thicken the blade a good deal to stop it form flopping around like a bloodhound's ear, which we should have the weight budget to do, the question is if that gets in the way of cutting performance.
Armour could definitely be lighter, and likely protect a bit better against things penetrating through the plates, but the lack of stiffness would tend to let more blunt trauma through unless we skip most (all?) of the weight savings to compensate (and getting things like gauntlets to articulate properly at that point may be tricky).
>but titanium in its pure form is to hard for a sword
Pure titanium (likely annealed) has a hardness of 60 Vickers. By comparison annealed (as soft as possible) copper sits at 50 HV, iron at 150, annealed 1080 carbon steel at 182 HV and 1080 hardened and tempered to make a good sword may sit around 400.
Does that mean that titanium would make a shitty sword that doesn't hold an edge?
Yes. Though it would tend to break rather than blunt like steel does.
I remember there was a brief fad for titanium knives back in the early 2000s but they fell out of fashion quickly when people tried to actually use them.
Pure titanium would be absolutely shite for a sword, yes. Won't hold an edge, flops around, and beyond the properties I mentioned it also wouldn't take much force to bend permanently or break entirely.
Some of the fancier titanium alloys we have today may kinda match the more basic steels in strength and hardness, though the floppiness problem must be handled with a thicker blade, and the lesser density may help or hinder depending on how the sword is to be used. Don't ask about the price...
While swords certainly shouldn't be too heavy, cutting swords also most definitely make use of momentum to chop into targets. To use the terminology of German longsword we have the hau, which is when you swing your sword at something, and we have the schnitt, which is where the sword has largely just ended up with the edge in contact and so you pull/push to slice through. The latter is obviously not something that cares about momentum, but for any hau momentum is going to be the primary thing that cuts, and the primary reason for swinging the sword in the first place is to build up momentum. (Now you'll likely want some manner of slicing component to the cut instead of an absolutely pure "chop", but that isn't to replace the importance of the momentum but rather to ensure the momentum is used more efficiently.)
Mass and thus inertia is also good whenever your sword touches the opponents, be it when someone blocks/parries/you both cut in or just when you are in the bind.
Also a lighter sword would make for a poor weapon. F=MA.
Swords are supposed to be relatively light weapons. You don't rely on the momentum of a sword like you do for a mace, hammer or axe. Most types of swords use work applied by your muscles drawing the blade in a slicing action or just pure force concentration by stabbing with the point, not hacking at it and using momentum to burry the blade deep in something.
Honestly the lighter and sharper a blade is the better, as long as it's still strong enough to not simply shatter on whatever you hit. That way you can maneuver it more agilely, swing it for longer without tiring and slice deeper.
Some weight to a sword is obviously good. The big benefit of a lighter sword material is often that you can make a sword bigger while still having it be the same overall weight.
Bard? Forge?
That's where you draw that line?
It's Counts-as mithril
Don't use it for swords though, it's not quite hard enough to be any good, Steel still for swords, Titanium would be fine for armor
Also don't look too hard into it for a game, but IRL it's very very very hard to work with, even with modern tech it needs its own unique absurdly large presses and wears out cutting and drilling tools worse than most other metal production processes
The same as steel weapons and armor of the same size, but about half the weight. Reduce or eliminate strength requirements for heavy armor made of titanium. It is more resistant to acid damage, but more vulnerable to other things that can break armor. Has a 1 in 20 chance to break even while being worn if the wearer takes thunder damage from any source.
Anon, that looks an awful lot like cold rolled steel.
That's just what titanium looks like. It's a dull, dark gray color.
Have you ever seen titanium and steel in the same room? Its very suspicious.
>not a pack of elephants
One job, OP.
Growing Titanium.
You are an idiot for using it. Depends on how fash it grows.
Titanium is a better armor metal than it is a weapon metal.
I think the part of OP's post that everyone is missing is
>a mining outcrop growing solid titanium
>growing solid titanium
>growing
>titanium
>Growing outcrop of titanium
>Guarded by elephants
>forged
>by a bard
>into a sword
>full plate MAIL
The entire post is incongruous, ya dingus.
Oh lol. I did notice growing while skimming, but I figured the OP was ESL and was using some kind of translation software. Didn't occur to me it's a troll post.
It's not incongruous, there's just deep lore you don't know.
>reading the op
sup newbies
Stats 75% as good as steel, but 50% of the weight
I think you gents are missing the point. Clearly the titanium is cursed by the Elephant God.
Titanium only occurs naturally as an oxide. Assuming this is a roughly medieval setting, how the frick did the bard forge it into ANYTHING useful? Even modern methods have a very difficult time extracting usable titanium.
magic
>killed a herd of elephants
>didn't take the ivory
what is wrong with you?
Just make it a masterwork greatsword and a mithril equivalent. Basically, the armor should be lighter and have roughly the same strength.
Titanium sits roughly in-between normal steel and high carbon steel in terms of strength and hardness.
The elephants hired a bard to make weapons and armor before getting slaughtered?
"Immune to rusting effects"