is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
Is PVP alive?
Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
>is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
It's 99% singleplayer. It does have an online mode where you can see other players and send stuff to them (which nobody does) and since recently it also has a PvP mode (which nobody plays)
>Is PVP alive?
Not really. The game just doesn't have the kind of playerbase to sustain a PvP mode, especially since most people just play singleplayer. You can fight AI-controlled versions of other people's team in a kind of asymmetrical PvP which is an okay alternative I guess.
>Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees. >Am I wrong?
Yes. There's no skill tree at all, it's basically freeform character building where you pick and choose skills (aka "masteries") at will. The only restrictions are character species, class and element, so for example a human wind elemental swordsman can't take beast masteries, fire masteries or hacker masteries. But there's no skilltree system where you have to take mastery A which leads to mastery B which leads to mastery C.
that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT, you get a limited number of passive bonuses or active abilities, and "set-bonuses" aren't anything new either.
>monster capturing system
this is also something I recognize from other JRPGs.
Not that I think it's bad, I just think it's a little overblown. I didn't expect "XCOM the jarpig" i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization with how everyone explained it.
I shouldn't have expected others to live up to my standards of gameplay-customization autism
>that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT
It's somewhat comparable to that, except a lot more varied in what the mastery can and cannot do. Setting up synergies is way more important than for example FF7's materia system where "link Phoenix to Final Attack" is pretty much as far as it goes in terms of complex setups, but in Troubleshooter you can have many mastery that influence not just your character but also other mastery, not to mention stuff like set bonuses.
>What the FRICK is the point of Battle Mage on Irene?
Fat tank who spam heals herself whenever she attacks. Give her Flames of Regeneration + Enough Rest + the masteries that make her heal when she consumes concentrated magic charges and she can be fast, tanky and sustainable.
>she can be fast, tanky and sustainable.
I think you would have to either be completely ignorant of how the game works or intentionally build her poorly for her to NOT be fast and tanky
Yeah well the idea is that you can make your already tanky frontline into a walking cover for your other frontliners instead of making Sion into a cover for your ranged units.
Magic armour is always-on and Battlemage has masteries that give it damage reduction. Iron Wall uses your turn to activate. Plus they can both stack to give Irene +200% block rate, and BM can activate Iron Wall for free at the end of each turn with one of their mastery sets.
early game its just a matter of speed, mostly gear will cover this but if not then put extreme speed skill on her. If that not enough go for shukuchi (Lightning Reflexes + Run + Bounding Stride + Extreme Speed)
midgame or 20s-30s is when a bunch of -at skills and sets start showing up, getting these can help mitigate the trap that is counterattack so its a good idea to put a few on her
Is counter attack bad? I've been running it on Albus, and I've been hesitant to take it off since it seems good for taking out melee units I can't otherwise oneshot.
its not exactly bad. its just you get it long before you have any way to mitigate its downsides
said downsides will make themselves more and more apparent as you fight larger number of enemies and their defences get better or you miss more attacks
I haven't even seen those masteries yet, I'm tempted to switch over to Martial Artist for now since I'm only around LVL 20. I feel like I'd get more use out of it than BM for now.
is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
Is PVP alive?
Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
Am I wrong?
I wouldn't say it's equivalent to a skill tree since it's much more open-ended with what you can frick around with. I'd say it's more of a "perk" type system that rewards you for comboing a sequence of specific masteries.
>Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees. >Am I wrong?
You are. Every character can equip masteries that give passive or active bonuses. There are hundreds of different masteries, and they make sets when you have specific combinations of them on your characters for extra bonuses.
On top of that, there is also a monster capturing system with one of the later characters that lets you tame any beast in the game, level them up, evolve them and give them their own mastery boards. There's also a drone system with machine-only masteries which is less in-depth but still fun to play with.
is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
Is PVP alive?
Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT, you get a limited number of passive bonuses or active abilities, and "set-bonuses" aren't anything new either.
>monster capturing system
this is also something I recognize from other JRPGs.
Not that I think it's bad, I just think it's a little overblown. I didn't expect "XCOM the jarpig" i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization with how everyone explained it.
I shouldn't have expected others to live up to my standards of gameplay-customization autism
>muh pedantics
you are an autistic homosexual, i'm just saying that the game looks like treaded ground as far as unit customization goes, though it's cool and interesting that the system was applied to an XCOM-like tactics game.
Really doesn't look too outstanding or complex, just not what I was expecting since threads on here talk like this game has actually in-depth unit customization rather than perk-based progression
>finding reasons to b***h
at what? game looks fun, is fun so far, and i'm excited to see how it plays out from mid to end game.
The customization system is treaded ground, maybe to you its complex so i won't say it's objectively not complex, but it's very simple to grasp and understand.
Perk go here, do thing. Simple is fine, but I expected some peak autism from threads about this game.
I should've known it was typical weebs over-posting about their favorite game rather than actual autists fiending over a new autism-simulator.
If you think calling the skill system of your favorite game "bitching" you are a pathetic snowflake homosexual.
>732 skills and 394 possible skill sets is overblown
anon, I think what you need to do is either shut up and play the game or frick off
this is the nicest way i can say this because it seems like you just want to complain before even getting into it
im playing it now, its alright >muh number spam
yeah city of heroes has 100000s of possible sets because of the increased amount of slots.
The actual amount of slots you have really doesn't amount to much as far as build customization/complexity goes. Wide as a puddle, as it were.
So this game is just final fantasy tactics "Item Abilities" Except instead of equipping 5 slots of gear you have like 50 slots. Wow! never before seen insanely complex and in depth customization!
Again, I didn't even say it was bad. I'm interested in building up my units into niche roles because i've never played a tactical squad RPG with JRPG-build customization. And i've played a lot of build-autism games. Which is why i'm so much more knowledgeable on the subject. You gays are just defending you favorite game, which is understandable.
>i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization
As a former CoH build autist, good fricking luck. If you ever find anything like that do let us know.
>CoH tier customization
Didn't that game basically let you do almost anything, and it could be viable if you put some thought into it?
Maybe not 'optimal efficiency', but viable.
>i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization
As a former CoH build autist, good fricking luck. If you ever find anything like that do let us know.
>Serious question: is Ray a gyaru?!
I think the argument could be made that she is
however, I believe if so that she is one of those mythical "purebreed" gyarus as she seems to have a natural tan and blond hair
Thanks, I knew about the unique dialogue you get with Kyle but for whatever reason the fact that there's a second page of options in Scent of the Past completely slipped my mind.
Should I be building for hit chance around the time I get Heixing or so? I feel as if it's getting to the point where flanking enemies for hit chance in a reasonable manner is hard due to enemy stats and level design without relying on my melee units.
I held off on this for ages because of them still releasing content for it, but god damn, this game is fantastic. The story is surprisingly good too, even with the sometimes awkward translation.
I just got Ray, so can anyone tell me when I unlock the beast taming mechanic? I've been holding off on doing sidequests while waiting for it.
Also, can I recruit Luna at some point?
2 more characters until beast taming. You're at the point of the game where it starts to just throw characters at you, though. Maybe another 8 maps or so. >Also, can I recruit Luna at some point?
Sadly no. She and Marco both have classes that the party never gets access to.
2 more characters until beast taming. You're at the point of the game where it starts to just throw characters at you, though. Maybe another 8 maps or so. >Also, can I recruit Luna at some point?
Sadly no. She and Marco both have classes that the party never gets access to.
Actually it might be even sooner. I think I mixed up the order of recruitment.
I'm going to stop typing now, because I clearly don't know what I'm talking about.
holy shit Irene is an absolute womanlet, Anne is only like 14 or 15 and she's about to heightmog her already
imagine just picking her up and doing dirtty villainous things to her wherever you want
>First mission I actually failed because Kylie got OHKO'd by a frog's forestallment >Retry >Have Heixing meet up with Kylie's group this time >Don't just get different dialogue but a totally different cutscene
Who are your jobbers anons? For me it's Giselle and Alisa, because with their current builds they really lack good action time reduction. Giselle usually gets smacked before she can get her traps and pet set up and the occasional accidental fire support activation really doesn't help. Alisa is kind of built as a 1v1 duelist but since she is too slow to the frontline she ends up on cleanup duty and maybe proccing blood wind on Bianca via cover
For me it's Anne and Albus, but they're both still usable >Anne
She's running a Witch build with tons of crowd control and damage, but her speed is so low that she rarely gets a turn. I recently reworked her build to make her better, but she's still only got 70ish speed >Albus
Takes a few turns to get rolling. Curse of Sword stacks pretty quickly with my build, but until it does he inflicts pretty low damage. I really want to squeeze Muscle Training into his build, but it requires a lot of shuffling or me to give up Body Training. He has stun immunity from Superior Sturdy Headgear because I like giving up a gear slot more than I like giving up mastery slots to fit Veteran into builds these days.
I like white mage Anne too much for witch, putting regen on the whole group with miracle is too good. Witch Bianca is my preferred pick since she can still one shot things but can also do some supporting stuff like stripping buffs
>Giselle >Lacks Good AT reduction >Gets smacked
What?
To answer your question, Leton, Bianca and Alisa. Just haven't figured them out yet.
Yeah my Giselle build isn't too good, but when she get's a fat trap off with her draki baron buddy nearby it's nothing but good times
At this point it's Ray, she does pathetic damage and her utility abilities are just worse than Anne's.
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Albus is my MVP, I gave him all swordsman-focused masteries and I just have him run into enemies' faces and kill them with his melee attack and forestallment.
Have you tried alchemist Ray with make chemical concoction? I have a bunch of sets to increase the rate at which she generates stacks and the cans she lobs can delete swarms of enemies
At this point it's Ray, she does pathetic damage and her utility abilities are just worse than Anne's.
For me it's Anne and Albus, but they're both still usable >Anne
She's running a Witch build with tons of crowd control and damage, but her speed is so low that she rarely gets a turn. I recently reworked her build to make her better, but she's still only got 70ish speed >Albus
Takes a few turns to get rolling. Curse of Sword stacks pretty quickly with my build, but until it does he inflicts pretty low damage. I really want to squeeze Muscle Training into his build, but it requires a lot of shuffling or me to give up Body Training. He has stun immunity from Superior Sturdy Headgear because I like giving up a gear slot more than I like giving up mastery slots to fit Veteran into builds these days.
Albus is my MVP, I gave him all swordsman-focused masteries and I just have him run into enemies' faces and kill them with his melee attack and forestallment.
>Albus
bleed build, I don't think Albus has a chance in hell of competing with any other character in the same categories he's in without bleed. Make sure to grab the enough rest mastery set for either MK or GS as they're pretty great >Alisa
I didn't like her until I stuck quick grasp of the situation on her which mitigates her lack of speed nicely, shortly after I realized I should stick quick grasp of the situation on every frontliner. It's a good mastery
Speed isn't really Alisa's problem considering she gets auto-turns if she gets attacked 4 times, as a Barb. I haven't seen a good WK build that didn't involve 1S/catharsis cheese though.
Sion, had a hearty kek at the end of the game when the news report was sucking him off but he was just my benchwarmer ever since I got Leton. Leton is also pretty useless rn, but I get some sick extra damage in when Ray covers him, frick I love Ray she does so much damage it's unreal. The only reason my Kylie isn't a benchwarmer is because her awaken support is pretty nice, and I know I can count on her if I need a timely 1-shot on something not too tanky.
Sion, had a hearty kek at the end of the game when the news report was sucking him off but he was just my benchwarmer ever since I got Leton. Leton is also pretty useless rn, but I get some sick extra damage in when Ray covers him, frick I love Ray she does so much damage it's unreal. The only reason my Kylie isn't a benchwarmer is because her awaken support is pretty nice, and I know I can count on her if I need a timely 1-shot on something not too tanky.
it was the inverse for me - as soon as I switched Sion to battle mage he started keeping up
My leton is a dodge meme instead
The easy way to make Kylie do more damage is to give her hemorrage. It applies mid-Attack Protocol.
Sion should be your first glass canon, you're trying to use him as melee character? He's much better as black mage.
Battlemage is good as backline cover, too. I've used him in the past as a mobile block for Heixing to Cover Move against, because unlike Irene battlemage he doesn't have to run up to enemies to hit them.
>14 year old girl character >Flashes her panties every time she uses her special >When fighting Roberto with her he spams sticky webs instead of attacking
What did they mean by this?
I thought I was cool for being able to take control of a Destron, I thought the game was telling me "good job bro here's your free terminator." I even crit healed it to full with my storm draki baron while it was in shutdown state
ESP is the easy choice if you're running her as a battlemage: Red Panda Somersault is a pure ESP attack, and the scalings of her other attacks can be made equal parts ESP and Attack with a mastery.
If you're running Martial Artist you'll probably want to focus on attack power, but it's a less straightforward choice than Battlemage/ESP.
They don't literally worship cutlery, they just use it as their symbol, since it works as a metaphor for their beliefs, ie the whole "one spoon from your bowl" thing.
They do, my drones have different stats now. The main difference is my high speed drone lost around 400 HP (and gained a couple Output somehow), but my reinforced drone became a fat boy. I'll have to look through my screenshots if I have any drone stats taken before the update.
pretty big drone update today. More in the future.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/470310/
The update didn't really specify it unless you were paying attention, but a bunch of drone masteries got changed from being generic Machine masteries into Control/Reinforcement Program masteries. There are also SP masteries for machines now, like the one that gives you 10 SP for every enemy within your line of sight. It's an Information mastery.
Looking through those mastery changes makes me want to make an incinerator drone. Also the ice drones can inflict freezing now.
Destrons also got absolutely massacred, which is probably a good thing >Special Armour makes you take 25% damage from hits below 10% of your max HP instead of total no-sell >Automatic Re-Attack doesn't activate from counterattacks anymore >Auto-Dodging Response and Automatic Suppressive Counter Attack both now have a limit of 3 activations per turn
Overall it looks like pretty nice buffs to player-created machines and severe nerfs to enemy machines.
I think they're less good in comparison because other bases got a ton of new effects through their masteries. As far as I can tell, transporter drones didn't actually get nerfed.
My reinforced drone is a 7K+ health boy now
And if you picked information, the damage reduction of multiple hits of the same type is 20%+
For each time it triggers.
>And if you picked information, the damage reduction of multiple hits of the same type is 20%+ For each time it triggers.
It wouldn't surprise me if that was just bad wording. That's going to make drones real immortal against any of the maps that are full of Drifter clowns.
I hardly have any modules but I still love my incinerator drone because I'll park it behind Irene/Alisa and it'll toast everything around her with auto fire support. Might be a god-tier combination if I put joy of burning on Irene
>Special armor no longer makes you take 0 damage >Automatic Re-attack doesn't trigger with counter or responsive attacks anymore. >Auto-dodging response and a lot of other masteries have a cap of 3 if its not your turn >Auto restore device is literally useless in removing disables that shut it down
Wow, it will be completely different fighting destrons now
Also apparently fire fighter drones are the anti-ESP drones?
Not really. There are a handful of crafting recipes you can buy in town for 1 valkyrie coin each, but none of those items are important and you end up with loads of excess coins.
I like it. More interesting to make drones now, and destrons feel a lot more fair. I just tried 54v after the changes and they're still very powerful, but it doesn't feel like Destrons And Friends anymore.
>Ray switching teams in that crabmit mission >Her team is an absolute disaster that if it wasn't for Sion and Irene's block and stun immunity it would have been literally wiped out >Albus team gets by perfectly
I find it cool when the devs way to connect story and gameplay match, but sometimes it fits too damn well
Early on, not really. It's universally useful and you can get the masteries for it really fast at a point where most of your other options are going to be pretty boring and you won't be able to complete many sets yet. Later on you'll get much better sets, and you only have so many slots to use. Shukuchi will still be good, but it doesn't compare to some of the more OP stuff.
Well that's completely useless then since you can't see a unit's screen at all before you've unlocked their page, so you can't find out if a unit isn't available on your current difficulty.
Pretty much. So many of them are dedicated to just earning more SP or staying in overcharge for longer, and even ones with real effects rely on you stacking otherwise useless water masteries, or are gimmicky as frick >Still Water's 1% (2% with set) block/dodge shred per water mastery equipped >Vortex's dodge shred based on your dodge from water SP which is 10% for 1 attack slot and 2 training points without other masteries >Double Extreme Poison causing severe friendly fire if you kill a poisoned enemy near allies or yourself if you're unfortunate enough to finish them with a melee attack
The only one that might possibly be useful (other than the obligatory +100% damage to poisoned targets) is Kelpie, and that's hard to tell without testing because the descriptions of it and its set are still machine-translated nonsense
I'm pretty sure it's trying to say that if Keplie puts debuffs on enemies it cures them from you. Whether or not it's useless depends on how wrong the description in the base mastery is >is it within 4 tiles? There is text on other masteries where the effects are described as "adjacent by 4 tiles", which would make this mastery fantastic >is it cardinal adjacency like Magic Armour/Iron Wall, the only masteries in the game that aren't radius-based because cover doesn't work on diagonals?
In any case, I'm about to go test it against some drifter clowns. Results shortly.
I'm pretty sure it's trying to say that if Keplie puts debuffs on enemies it cures them from you. Whether or not it's useless depends on how wrong the description in the base mastery is >is it within 4 tiles? There is text on other masteries where the effects are described as "adjacent by 4 tiles", which would make this mastery fantastic >is it cardinal adjacency like Magic Armour/Iron Wall, the only masteries in the game that aren't radius-based because cover doesn't work on diagonals?
In any case, I'm about to go test it against some drifter clowns. Results shortly.
It looks like Kelpie actually only does activate from cardinal directions, which is a bit annoying. However, it also applies to armourbreak which I wasn't expecting.
I think the set effect is bugged, or works in some strange way. My crab died before I got my turn again, but it looked like it was still debuffed after the debuffs spread.
Nothing important. The biggest change is how district safety levels work (they last for a certain amount of missions while offline, but online they last for a few hours of real time). There's also PVP, but I'm an offline player too so I don't know how popular it is.
Pretty much the only thing the game doesn't tell you about the difficulties is that there are some exclusive bosses that only appear on Hard or higher.
Pretty much the only thing the game doesn't tell you about the difficulties is that there are some exclusive bosses that only appear on Hard or higher.
>exclusive enemies
Might be Very Hard or higher, actually. I don't fully remember, and the game doesn't tell you.
Can you get all the masteries you'd get from training beasts by killing them or other beasts? Not sure I want to grind out that much beast training especially since you can only have 1 in battle at a time
Nope. You can get most of them through combat, but there are always one or two that you have to level beasts for. This includes legendary beasts, which almost all have their own unique ones at 16 class level.
You can see which masteries you'd get by levelling them on their entries in the troublemaker list, so you can pick and choose the ones with masteries you care about instead of blindly levelling one of each beast.
This is my witch Bianca. She makes enemies bleed and spams aoe Arresting Force. I haven't fully optimised it yet because I only switched her to Witch a couple of days ago after getting bored of how one-note Black Mage is.
Does anyone know why i can't chose the "play against player characters controlled by ai" option? I have already competed more than one joint drill so i should have a "victorious team" the ai could use
I believe it's online only, and uses teams from other players rather than your own.
I should probably remove Curse. It's not part of the witch masteries, it's part of Distorted Heart. I have gotten use out of it though. Bianca likes to get Immortality from all those buff gaining masteries.
Looking at it more, Joyful Witch is a bit of a meme set that I should probably get rid of in general. That'd probably let me throw in a bunch of actually good masteries.
I should probably remove Curse. It's not part of the witch masteries, it's part of Distorted Heart. I have gotten use out of it though. Bianca likes to get Immortality from all those buff gaining masteries.
Looking at it more, Joyful Witch is a bit of a meme set that I should probably get rid of in general. That'd probably let me throw in a bunch of actually good masteries.
Attempt 2. I must have spent around 20 minutes agonising over this board. It was difficult to find the mastery configuration that takes advantage of Honesty's extra training points, because I need it for property limit. Most of the setups I tried ended up with something like 50/57 training points, which is just not right.
Does anyone know why i can't chose the "play against player characters controlled by ai" option? I have already competed more than one joint drill so i should have a "victorious team" the ai could use
Bicrons have shit accuracy just drop some smoke bro
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Attempt 2. I must have spent around 20 minutes agonising over this board. It was difficult to find the mastery configuration that takes advantage of Honesty's extra training points, because I need it for property limit. Most of the setups I tried ended up with something like 50/57 training points, which is just not right.
Eh. It's not a terrible game and you might enjoy it if you have a higher tolerance for certain types of game design than I did. Personally, I ended up hating it after a while.
On the good side, it's got a striking visual style, and the combat mechanics are pretty good for the most part. It's got a lot of hidden depth and tactically a lot of it is based on preventing damage by interrupting or redirecting enemy attacks which I found pretty cool. It doesn't lean on the nuXCOM formula like Troubleshooter and so many other games in the genre today, which also makes it more interesting to me.
On the bad side, the story is masturbatory trash that's trying too hard to be 2deep4u but only comes across as shallow emo nonsense. Luckily it's unimportant and easy to ignore, but it did make me roll my eyes more than once. More importantly, all of the mechanics outside of combat seem deliberately designed to be as frustrating as possible and to stretch a 5-hour game into a 30-hour game by forcing you to grind to accomplish anything and restart the entire game to get the things you need. It's got this roguelite thing going on where you get points to unlock new tools every time you lose the game. which I absolutely despise. All the more since some pretty important mechanics are locked behind this system. It's also got other mechanics that seemingly serve no purpose than to force you to grind more. For the most egregious example, as I mentioned a lot of the combat revolves around avoiding damage. Unfortunately, all of the best skills to avoid damage cost HP to use, so it's impossible to go through most fights without taking at least some damage. Which wouldn't be much of a problem, except that healing is completely moronic. You can only heal outside of combat by sacrificing a character that's of higher level than the character you're healing, which means you constantly have to keep grinding up your stock of future sacrifices just to keep your main squad alive.
It's the safest way. If you're in a straight relationship in Valhalla, either at least one of you dies horribly, or it's a mission objective to murder you.
Im still mad albus should have been a hot girl, her model was very good. Who was the fricking gaylord who said "yeah lets to the usual japanese self insert". Don't the coreans hate the japs?
There are plenty of very well done female designs already, adding 1x Miss Generic instead of Haha.. man isn't going to change much.
Besides, it would upset the dynamic with Sion and Irene if AlBust was as dense as Albus is now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it would upset the dynamic with Sion and Irene
I would say it would make it only more interesting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, Albia or whatever the frick her name was before transition would just be a butch girl trying to dom Sion and occasionally lezzing Irene to control her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>trying to dom Sion and occasionally lezzing Irene to control her
This is the hottest shit i've ever read.
2 years ago
Anonymous
turbo-Satan here makes a compelling point
only issue is would Giselle still be trying to groom her?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think Giselle's just in this for the chaos.
Rules of Nature and shit like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Isn't giselle lez for the cop? Would groom her eventually, i think giselle could potentially groom everyone just for the sake of doing it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think Giselle just enjoys fricking with Jane.
Jane seems blessed and straight.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Giselle is clearly thirsty for Albus. I’m not even sure she’s consciously aware of it, but she wants him. Or perhaps more accurately, she sees in him the potential to be the kind of man that she wants to mate with, and so she is pushing him to be that man. Or as the other anon said, she’s grooming him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The email you get after doing Albus side in A scent of the past reads like a love letter
Okay I use Martial Artist. It's been a long time since I have played this pain simulator because i'm at the part with the Drifter Clowns and they're fricking my ass like I want to frick the clown girl from Ace Attorney.
Kill the skeletons first as they will armorbreak the shit out of you
Put phoenix on for those unlucky big dick enemy crits
Revenge is a good mastery set, I find that a crit counterattack will instant kill black clowns, negating the nastiest parts of their kit. There’s another set that buffs counterattack damage off of the enemy’s damage that activated it but I forgot the name and specifics of it
Front breakthrough is unblockable so it’s invaluable against white clowns
"The next update schedule is undecided."
I swear every time I start this, I see that.
Why don't they just have a little graphic on the loading screen that lists the date when they do decide?
Post builds.
Bianca is not too hard to make a competent build with, she's just a mage and her skills don't require any tomfoolery to make work. Trying to make a fantastic build with her is effort, though.
Alisa's a bit trickier and her builds are totally different depending on whether you want to go White Knight or Barbarian Warrior. If you're using BW, the mastery set Cry of the Wrath (Roar of Victory + Sweet Home, Battlefield + Encourage + Outrage) is pretty much mandatory for a rage buff that doesn't get dispelled when you attack.
White Knight has some really kickass masteries and is equipment breaker extraordinaire. This was my board from my first playthrough that I was really happy with. A couple of the White Knight masteries there require you to kill Snake to get them so you probably won't have them, but that'll give you some ideas to go off.
There's a mastery set for White Knight that makes you bigger, stronger and faster the more WK/Swordsman masteries you have equipped, so I just tried to fit as many as I could. Breakthrough is great against clowns and destrons, and she'll easily stack them up with 4x armourbreak and 4x Destroy Weapon.
If I was going to remake this board I'd probably remove Veteran and give her some Sturdy Headgear instead, which would probably enable even more single target goodness.
If you decide to go barbarian warrior this is what I did
I wonder if Banished Children will be an entirely new cast or not
My shot in the dark would be a few years time skip and the characters from the first game make guest appearances from time to time. Also hag 18 y/o Anne and Luna as main characters
You'll miss the snipers when you get to the Clowns.
At least a coked up Heixing can just delete snipers with a sweep.
I like the clowns more than xXx_5kvll_xXx and their fire support spam
All these late game stages having 80 enemies including 10 snipers with fire support are incredibly tiresome. Especially when they OHKO your in-cover smokescreened units.
Man, really? I would've been fricking pissed if I got this at release, there's way too much that went unaddressed with that ending. It's basically only half a story at this point. And it's been almost two years since the first DLC, which was only half a year after release.
This is the same thing I felt with Katana Zero and Gravity Rush. Great games with blatantly unfinished stories.
So the game is called Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children and we only end up getting a vague discussion of Abandoned Children being the name of a plan that exists and we don't even find out what it was? Never mind everything else, that's just thematically absurd.
I suppose aside from everything that went totally unaddressed, one element of the ending did leave me a little confused. Did the mayor end up foiling the old fart's plans by having the White Tiger gang get taken down by Albus' team? I'm not sure if something was lost in translation but it seemed like when talking about the plan they were wanting the battle to keep going for a while with the Spoonists, but Carter hijacking them and Albus taking down the White Tigers threw a wrench in the old man's plans and left the mayor in a stronger position.
One of the cutscenes explains the idea behind Abandoned Children pretty well >deliberately weaken the security in one district of the city >people with anti-government tendencies flock to that district >they either join a gang, or join Spoonage >Spoonage gets secretly propped up by the government and grows in size, either absorbing or wiping out the other gangs as it does so >eventually the Spoonists leave the city and go on their pilgrimage to ~~*coordinates*~~, taking all the anti-government people with them
The explosion in the backstory was a previous attempt at stamping out dissenters. Abandoned Children is their latest attempt.
I think Karl had Albus wipe out the White Tigers because they don't serve any purpose anymore. The Spoonists are gone, and the Black Tigers are a legitimate troubleshooter company now. The city's in a pretty good shape at the end of the game.
Better yet, the Spoonists seem to have very little logistical support or ability to survive outside of a city (if the lack of (even an attempt at) farmland around their base is any indication).
Worse come to worst, if Albus's company broke up because of any number of things, as soon as Spoonage went on the Pilgrimage, they won and it was just a matter of finishing the fight as fast as possible.
One of the cutscenes explains the idea behind Abandoned Children pretty well >deliberately weaken the security in one district of the city >people with anti-government tendencies flock to that district >they either join a gang, or join Spoonage >Spoonage gets secretly propped up by the government and grows in size, either absorbing or wiping out the other gangs as it does so >eventually the Spoonists leave the city and go on their pilgrimage to ~~*coordinates*~~, taking all the anti-government people with them
The explosion in the backstory was a previous attempt at stamping out dissenters. Abandoned Children is their latest attempt.
I think Karl had Albus wipe out the White Tigers because they don't serve any purpose anymore. The Spoonists are gone, and the Black Tigers are a legitimate troubleshooter company now. The city's in a pretty good shape at the end of the game.
said, the wrench in the plan was Carter was supposed to kill the spoonists, not become the new Black Spoon. But at the end of the day, the Cartel is gone and the spoonists are too, so the council closes the project. But they do start Banished Children, which involves [spoiler] sending Hanged Crown to kill the spoonists. [/spoiler]
It was planned to be an ongoing franchise from the start, so it's unfinished on purpose. Which is ridiculous considering they almost didn't get the first game out of the door and the status of the sequel is still somewhat uncertain. Would've been much better if they just made one story for this game and then come up with something new for the next game.
Never went into korean dramas eh? They like doing this. 2000 hours of backstory, character, shenenningans between every single guy you see on screen, good or evil and the story is in the next chapter.
Man, really? I would've been fricking pissed if I got this at release, there's way too much that went unaddressed with that ending. It's basically only half a story at this point. And it's been almost two years since the first DLC, which was only half a year after release.
This is the same thing I felt with Katana Zero and Gravity Rush. Great games with blatantly unfinished stories.
The sad thing about Katana Zero is that they didn't make another game already. Frick me it was good.
You can by talking to the npc who gave them. Useful to go back and redo the first Yasha mission once you recruit Giselle, as taming it unlocks a key mastery for Irene you wouldn't otherwise get until Lv.47.
>The only time rank matters is for beasts for things like "eye of the king"
Ranks also give flat stat boosts on all modes, and even more on HRHR. It's really noticeable in the early missions if you play them on Cruel because it makes the generic enemies have 500-600 HP instead of 200-300. It matters less as the game goes on.
>stop playing for a couple of months >builds now suck >level cap got higher >drone builds suck >all my work into the trash
Alright give me an update guide of what is good and what's sucks because I cant even complete cases in normal.
Drones got buffed unless you were spamming responsive attack masteries, which you probably weren't. The only general mastery changes I remember happening were the elemental "Overcharge lasts 2 turns longer" masteries getting changed to other effects.
>white mage can use priest masteries but there are no priest masteries >barbarian warrior can use marauder masteries but there are no marauder masteries >hunter can use archer masteries but there are no archer masteries >we can obtain slaughterer masteries but nobody can use them >can obtain a pistol from Boris and a hammer from Renzy that nobody can use
hmmmmmmm
Marauder promotes into Slaughterer, which is why there are references to Marauder masteries. They also probably promote into Barbarian Warrior as their second tier 2 class, because black clowns certainly didn't start as Swordsman.
Slaughterer masteries and unequippable weapons come from the same source: enemies use them and the drop system gives you whatever the enemies have.
Archer is probably just a dummied out class. I've gone looking for obscure classes and never found one of them.
I have no evidence of this yet, but I'm pretty sure the Spoonage white mages are promoted from priest rather than shaman.
>Kylie brought scholar masteries for alchemist Ray >Giselle brought more gunman masteries for Heixing >Leton brought more masteries for martial artist Irene >Bianca brought more elementalist/black mage masteries for Sion and witch masteries for Anne >Misty will bring more thief masteries for hacker Kylie >swordsman, the very first class you play, has yet to get anything
Have they revealed anything about Misty's T2 classes, or anybody's T3 classes?
>anybody's T3 classes
Yeah, they have names in the localisation files. Everyone gets at least 3x T3 classes, some people get 4. They accidentally leaked a bunch of them in the live game so people were able to make an accurate list of who gets what (but nobody could actually class change into them, it was just accidental text).
I didn't save the list, but most of them are pretty easy to determine.
A lot of characters share a T3 class, for example I remember Giselle and Heixing both share Mountain Ranger.
>bloodwalker and blood mage
well, easy to figure out who gets those
any chance he might get non-lightning attacks from them?
>well, easy to figure out who gets those
A lot of them are fairly obvious.
If I had to guess: >Phantom Thief/Spy/Ninja -> Misty >Action Star/World Star -> Leton. >Bloodwalker/Blood Mage -> Sion. >Battle Master/Red Panda Master -> Irene >Berserker/Gladiator/Guardian Knight -> Alisa >Dark Sniper/Beastmaster -> Giselle >Terminator/Mountain Ranger/Dark Ranger -> Heixing >Archmage/Trickster/Black Witch -> Bianca >Bishop/Saintess/Archwitch -> Anne >Swordmaster/Red Mage/Eldritch Knight -> Albus >Bombardier/Chaos Brush/Chemist -> Ray >Mechanical Engineer/Black Hat/Meister -> Kylie
This leaves Leton, Sion, Irene and Giselle with one T3 class missing, but most likely they'll just share a class with someone else. For example Battle Master, Action Star, Archmage and Terminator respectively.
How deep does the gameplay get? The generic cop troops and the cheesy crime fighter premise are filtering me hard.
One of the game's biggest issues is how bad the pacing is early on, and there's no good way to deal with it except just knuckle down and get through it. You'll start relying less and less on the generic police units as you round out your roster and you'll eventually unlock new options like pets and crafting, but it takes a while before you get out of the early game.
If I remember right Leton and Irene share Battlemaster, Sion gets Archmage, and Irene, Albus and Sion all share Red Mage.
Giselle has Mountain Ranger as her third one.
Oh gods what did I get myself into I'm not here to play a visual novel T_T
It only has the appearance of a visual novel at first. Once the game starts properly it settles into something more like Disgaea/Fire Emblem.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright good to know since playing Online makes it more difficult to check out what decisions to make during the VN parts and not to mention the percentages for choice selection really screwing me over at times e.g. some choices you end up turning neutrals into allies or enemies.
Elementalist goes for all those that can use elements sans Leton, but yeah, Alisa didn't bring any swordsman masteries to the team
I don't remember about spirit either
Irene isn't the MC. In fact, despite how the game's marketing seems to focus on her more than anyone else, she's easily the least relevant person in the entire plot, at least out of the playable characters. Even the DLC characters are more story-relevant than Irene.
>11 different characters >800andsomething different masteries >almost every monster in the game is capturable and has their own customisable mastery board >enemies eventually have full builds and play by the exact same rules your units do
It starts simple but ramps up.
I think there's a pretty good chance of that. The 3 alliances still hate each other's guts, Valhalla has just released an armed cult into the world and sent a private army after it, and the Fortress of Suffering answers to no-one.
I'm also mindful of how both the game and the artbook specify destrons are "First generation" androids that served in the world war. The Caras Union probably has some nightmarish war robots now.
I think there's a pretty good chance of that. The 3 alliances still hate each other's guts, Valhalla has just released an armed cult into the world and sent a private army after it, and the Fortress of Suffering answers to no-one.
I'm also mindful of how both the game and the artbook specify destrons are "First generation" androids that served in the world war. The Caras Union probably has some nightmarish war robots now.
I wish. The wartime scenarios in Ben's, Hanson's and Sanson's backstories were some of the most interesting parts in this game narratively speaking.
It'd also give us a chance to obtain and deploy Bicrons, perhaps even Destrons, in combat.
I've been messing around with nonstandard beasts, and it turns out Lightning Yashas have this really fun skill that they can spam via Pincer Attack With Beast. It's a 5-radius dome centered on the yasha and hits every single target within the radius, which you can give stun chance thanks to lightning masteries. The damage isn't huge, but the spam is real. Considering how early you can get lightning yashas it'd probably be useful as an early to midgame pet.
Current board with a lot of remnants of its previous physical build before it learned Spider Web Electrocution. Muscle Training is staying because it gives some large HP bonus sets, but I'll remove Muscle Burst in the future and see where that takes me.
Fiddled with it a bit. >removed Muscle Burst because it doesn't affect any of my skills, and the set it's a part of wasn't that good >removed Overflowing Energy because it doesn't generate enough SP to reach overcharge anyway, and I don't want to put Roar of Victory on it >removed Muscle Tolerance because with no Muscle Burst it wasn't part of a set, and nothing endgame uses ESP anyway
This thing is strong enough to murder its way through Giselle and Ray's duo mission, which is a good viability starting point. The lockdown is intense, and it does a lot of damage now (crits were around 3.3k on skeleton masks, 8k on black clowns)
I'd have to open the game to check, but I'm pretty sure the enemy lightning yashas don't know it. Some beasts have skills that the generic versions don't know, but you can still get if you level them as a player.
There're so many hidden details in this game, it's hilarious. A shame many people never got into taming or just straight went for the epic/legendary beasts.
>Send Alissa to tard wrangle the enemies with inmortality and QUICK SHAVING >snipe people with Bianca >charge the tornado and clean house after dealing with everything
I did it that way
IIRC if you go the long way around and get to street level first, you can avoid aggroing everyone at once.
Beyond that, pretty much what [...] said. Granted I did this level before immortality was nerfed so Alisa could basically solo the level on her own.
Finally cleared the map after a few tries, things I learned: >Bibi is strong as frick >either Alisa is weak or my build is shit (it's most likely the latter)
For me, it's the former. Alisa almost always dies for me.
Alisa’s not weak, but she is very swingy. Most other characters can have sub-optimal sets and still work, just not as well as if they were perfect. Alisa is not like this. Either she’s good, or she’s complete shit. No in between.
IIRC if you go the long way around and get to street level first, you can avoid aggroing everyone at once.
Beyond that, pretty much what
[...] >Send Alissa to tard wrangle the enemies with inmortality and QUICK SHAVING >snipe people with Bianca >charge the tornado and clean house after dealing with everything
I did it that way
said. Granted I did this level before immortality was nerfed so Alisa could basically solo the level on her own.
I always ever carry healing potions because I'm a boring frick, but after seeing the skull masks buttholes using concentration points I have now seen their usefulness.
>after seeing the skull masks buttholes using concentration points I have now seen their usefulness
I love how enemies abide for the very same rules than the player. Lets you discover some interesting combos and uses of different stuff (masteries, items, etc).
These homies were sniping me even though I had high ground, blind spot, healing mist, and base defense stacked up on Giselle. The camo destron one shot Alisa too
>he doesn't play with all difficultly options turned on >he doesn't handicap h himself by not using certain masteries, items or classes >he doesn't compete all his missions in less than 300 AT
you didn't beat the game
50 hours in started at the beginning of the recent steam sale. Loving it so far, my latest unit was Anne. Just wondering how long until I unlock more units/everybody else. Albus and sion have been edging me about getting more troubleshooters.
I think it's faster to use your yellow distance if you're going very long distances with no chance of combat, but if you're running into fog it's faster to go blue + stand by so the delay between moving and attacking is smaller.
Help
RIP your units. At least their AI is pretty weird.
he and heixing both got 1 tapped by the big electric frog before they got a turn to move. Luckily hero irene was solo'ing all the animals at the other entrances.
I remember that particular negoori, and it hasn't got any problems killing people without flash stacks. It's got big fat beast ESP and does lightning damage that your front liners don't really have any defence against.
I got lucky, I saw that he was stacked with lv999 Flash before his turn and prioritized taking him out immediately.
Albus still managed to die as usual though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh he comes pre-stacked with Flash? I didn't realise that
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I attacked him first before he was even in my field of view with Heixing.
It appears that Misty (my wife) has some dialogue portraits for cutscenes. Either dandy inteded for us to meet her before the dlc or the dlc is closer than it appears
She makes a small appearance in the post-map cutscene of Fire And Ice in the base game. It's not a full portrait, though.
I think they've been in the game for ages.
Gentlemen, it is with great displeasure that i inform you that this cheat sheet of mine is already due an update. Apparently the "output" mastery type can now be rolled upon drone crafting (First time i ever see it + the steam guide for drones listed it as unavailable to drones)
Gentlemen, it is with great displeasure that i inform you that this cheat sheet of mine is already due an update. Apparently the "output" mastery type can now be rolled upon drone crafting (First time i ever see it + the steam guide for drones listed it as unavailable to drones)
It's okay, it looked kinda ugly so you can fix some of it and see it become obsolete next week
Updated version here. Also fixed some serious mistake where I mixed up Open and Independent OSs (the masteries shown on Open OS belonged to Independent OS and vice-versa)
Nope. It's unlikely that you'll be able to get that much cash early on, but even if you grind to get it before the offer is given the story just assumes you can't afford it.
>tfw i already beat Alisa and Bianca's DLC
Now I have to do the rest of the purple missions, Already did the lvl.52 one, killed them all but it was a really close one, I can imagine the lvl.54 being a lot worse...
Also, is there a way to see which side missions you have actually beat instead of you just attempted?
What is the purpose of >training manuals, since when using mastery boards seems to bypass consuming training manuals to remove masteries >motivation, since it's so easy and cheap to refill
Motivation is a system they made really early on and decided to neuter rather than remove. Training manuals are probably a similar story.
This game's perfomance gets a bit bad when there's a lot of stuff going on right? I've got a decent PC (R5 2600 + GTX 1080) and on the busier maps whenever there's a lot of enemies and/or particles effects going on, my GPU usage, temperature and FPS all drop, there seems to be a bottleneck with the engine, this happens to everyone right?
>picrel
I hate those wienery brats who bring their petty complaints about minor game features directly to the devs and expect them to change their game.
Hope the TS guys have enough self consciousness to ignore guys like that.
They ignore a lot of stupid ideas, but they also make a lot of small changes that don't really need to be made, especially since they're planning to use a different engine for the sequel. All these minor bugfixes aren't necessarily going to pay off.
your albus sure is squishy
>complains about his Albus >not the 1346HP Bianca
If that's a Magic Knight Albus 2283HP is plenty. MK gets a bunch of damage reduction masteries and a set that lets them cheat death as long as they have more than 40 vigor.
Well as janky as that build looks to me, it seems to be working for you if you cleared her duo mission.
The one change I'd make without rewriting her entire build would be to take out Fair Wind and stick in Honesty, then replace Wind Wall with either Impulse Fields or Second Heart. That way she's still really glassy, but she'd be able to survive a stray hit or two.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>janky
You're being too nice, I hadn't worried about it because it was working fine but now that I've posted it and I'm looking at it more carefully it really is a mess, I think this is better, using black mage now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based 57/57 board. Looks a lot more like a standard Bianca board now.
>Witch's Anger
uhhh anon you do realize that requires her to be hit and not die right
2 years ago
Anonymous
That whole mastery setup was shit, I was just using that class to unlock the rest of the Witch's masteries, I've seen fixed it now
>janky
You're being too nice, I hadn't worried about it because it was working fine but now that I've posted it and I'm looking at it more carefully it really is a mess, I think this is better, using black mage now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>origin of magic >0 ESP masteries
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are lots of ESP masteries there, anon. Don't confuse them with SP masteries.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, anon was right. ESP masteries are the elemental masteries.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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Oh no, so I'd have to equip Wind masteries? But they're kinda shit, I only really have Origin of Magic because it's part of the Investigate Origin set, but how's this?
[...]
You just reminded me that I needed to change the name, she's not a Witch anymore.
It looks like the anon who said it means elemental masteries is correct. Tested it myself and this is my damage breakdown. My Sion has no lightning masteries (Lightning ESP itself counts as a mastery), so it's only giving him a tiny bit of damage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not worth running wind masteries just to complement Origin of Magic/Investigate Origin in general. Hell, with your board, an Elementalist/BM mastery gives 10% esp attack from Magic Book/Forbidden Magic Book, while an ESP mastery gives 7% from Origin/Investigate. Obviously, this is a bad trade unless the wind masteries are doing enough more work to justify that attack loss.
Hmm, I guess I'll get rid of Origin of Magic and its set, if it only ompliments wind masteries it doesn't benefit my current build at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are lots of ESP masteries there, anon. Don't confuse them with SP masteries.
No, anon was right. ESP masteries are the elemental masteries.
Oh no, so I'd have to equip Wind masteries? But they're kinda shit, I only really have Origin of Magic because it's part of the Investigate Origin set, but how's this?
[...] >Some actual anon with taste that gives names to the mastery boards
You just reminded me that I needed to change the name, she's not a Witch anymore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not worth running wind masteries just to complement Origin of Magic/Investigate Origin in general. Hell, with your board, an Elementalist/BM mastery gives 10% esp attack from Magic Book/Forbidden Magic Book, while an ESP mastery gives 7% from Origin/Investigate. Obviously, this is a bad trade unless the wind masteries are doing enough more work to justify that attack loss.
>janky
You're being too nice, I hadn't worried about it because it was working fine but now that I've posted it and I'm looking at it more carefully it really is a mess, I think this is better, using black mage now.
>Some actual anon with taste that gives names to the mastery boards
What the hell, it doesn't look like that to me, maybe it's a browser thing, I'm using Chrome.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm on Pale Moon and it renders fine for me even though the dimensions say it should be wide. Some weird auto-correction is happening or something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't get it, it looks fine for me in both Chrome and on MPC HC, I'll admit I don't much about editing video but I've posted that webm a few times and no-one had said anything until now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You fricked up the dimensions when making the webm so the file has one set of dimensions and the metadata has a different set of dimensions. Some browsers will read the metadata to correct it and some won't.
Anyway, it's all dumb because all the character models look off. You see Anne in artwork long before she joins the party.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I want to fix it so it looks fine for everyone, I should re-encode it anyhow to take advantage of the whole VP9 thing.
This game's perfomance gets a bit bad when there's a lot of stuff going on right? I've got a decent PC (R5 2600 + GTX 1080) and on the busier maps whenever there's a lot of enemies and/or particles effects going on, my GPU usage, temperature and FPS all drop, there seems to be a bottleneck with the engine, this happens to everyone right?
Albus can become extremely tanky against ranged attacks thanks to headwind. It's a bit of a coom moment when crucha Skull Eater and his fire support gang is doing 1s and 0s against you. Melee is harder to deal with though, I guess you gotta rely on them not 1 shotting you and then regening it back with blood absorbing sword and/or life drain
Second wind is kind of cool with enough rest but that's most of your possible defence slots so you'd be hard pressed to fit in magic shield, counterattack, impulse fields, etc. It's up to you. I'm running magic knight with second wind and the enough rest mastery set and it definitely feels like he's underperforming but he's dying less often than before. Those 1 damage hits ranged attacks do will trigger second wind so his turn pops back up real quick
This is about as high as I can get it, unless I somehow manage to fit more sets in with another board, plus 100 more HP from Trained Beast.
Not quite 7k, but close. Board coming up shortly.
Board. I didn't really try to optimise number of sets, so I could probably squeeze in a bit more HP if I devoted myself to it. It'd be hard to work around the HP boosting sets, though. Also this is in full memebuild right now: if I don't swap out Tough Spirit for Predator's Eye she has really annoying accuracy problems. Tough Spirit + Perfect Ego is another 60 HP I wouldn't have if I did that, though.
Part of the reason why I went for a memebuild on my queen is because I'd already given up on making her good. Wind ESP is the worst element, she doesn't have any spammable ranged attacks for Pincer Attack With Beast besides the 6-range charge which displaces her, and the scaling on her attacks is pretty low (somewhat offset by her god-tier crit multiplier).
I think if I did do a build with the intention of actually using her it would look a lot like yours: Crit, counterattack/forestallment and block shred.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wind ESP is the worst element,
I too hate dealing massive crits..
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I play on the easiest difficulty where 20% block is an abnormally tanky enemy
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't, and I still like dealing 600% crits.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, no , I see. Imagine getting filtered by high block.
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2 years ago
Anonymous
Pray tell, how does your Bianca crit high block enemies?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I turned him into a penguin, funniest shit I've ever seen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm glad you asked anon. She does it by being a walking meme.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look on the bright side, anon. Your ineptitude is on page 10.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Im lvl 30, play on hard, just got to the annoying high block enemies, specially that white Tiger sword guy with 120% block.
Annoying as frick, but I got through him with my breakthrough albus and root from anne.
Now Im abusing block on my characters too, realized its way better than dodge cause you negate crits. I reckon the game will be comically easy once I get iron wall and pop magic armor in.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The reason I said that is because most machines have Windform and very high wind resistance, and a lot of enemies have Veteran/Massiveness to prevent stuns from wind-related effects which shuts down a decent number of wind masteries. Also, those masteries that grant Slowdown/Strong Slowdown pretty much only work with Albus' skills because so many beast attacks already inflict Bleed.
Contrasting with the other elemental types >Water has bad masteries, but almost nothing resists it >Lightning has pretty good masteries including non-Collision stun sources and machines are weak to it >Fire has godlike masteries even though machines resist it >Earth has numerous non-combat ways of gaining SP, good masteries and almost nothing resists it >Spirit-aligned beasts have very powerful skills, excellent non-combat SP gain and some non-standard but very strong masteries
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wind is the most fun element, which automatically makes it the best.
Is there a reason to have a draki queen aside from the novelty of having it? I made a storm baron before realizing you could evolve them into royalty, and after I realized I started evolving a draki king
They're pretty much the same as dark drakis, but light-aligned. The biggest difference is that they have a 6-radius Revealed aura that also negates the penalties from dark/night/indoors. Slightly different scaling on their overload skill too, IIRC it's a little bit weaker.
You know I get that the game's been dropping Caper Mk 28s and ARs and Axes all game but they've really thrown me for a loop by having Renzy drop a named legendary two handed hammer that no one can use. I just thought Alissa was going to use it for some intense shaving.
I'm still not used to the boss Ranger enemies dropping unique pistols which Heixing can't use because for some reason he and Sanson are the only characters in the game that use submachine guns. >lots of Gunman enemies use assault rifles >the sniper Gunman enemies use sniper rifles >every other Gunman enemy uses pistols >every Ranger uses pistols except that one boss who has a sniper rifle because haha we put Cover Move on a sniper >VHPD suppressors are Rangers with assault rifles >Sanson has a submachine gun, except he's actually a Sweeper
Speed isn't really Alisa's problem considering she gets auto-turns if she gets attacked 4 times, as a Barb. I haven't seen a good WK build that didn't involve 1S/catharsis cheese though.
My first playthrough's White Knight has 73 speed, which isn't amazing but it's pretty good by non-cheese Alisa standards, and faster than a lot of enemies.
Ranger uses pistols except that one boss who has a sniper rifle because haha we put Cover Move on a sniper
Nevermind, I imagined this. Must have just gotten confused by having rangers mixed with snipers in the towers on 54v.
is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
Is PVP alive?
Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
Am I wrong?
>is there multiplayer to this game? I pirated it and i see multiplayer stuff in the client, but steam has it listed as a singleplayer game.
It's 99% singleplayer. It does have an online mode where you can see other players and send stuff to them (which nobody does) and since recently it also has a PvP mode (which nobody plays)
>Is PVP alive?
Not really. The game just doesn't have the kind of playerbase to sustain a PvP mode, especially since most people just play singleplayer. You can fight AI-controlled versions of other people's team in a kind of asymmetrical PvP which is an okay alternative I guess.
>Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
>Am I wrong?
Yes. There's no skill tree at all, it's basically freeform character building where you pick and choose skills (aka "masteries") at will. The only restrictions are character species, class and element, so for example a human wind elemental swordsman can't take beast masteries, fire masteries or hacker masteries. But there's no skilltree system where you have to take mastery A which leads to mastery B which leads to mastery C.
>that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT
It's somewhat comparable to that, except a lot more varied in what the mastery can and cannot do. Setting up synergies is way more important than for example FF7's materia system where "link Phoenix to Final Attack" is pretty much as far as it goes in terms of complex setups, but in Troubleshooter you can have many mastery that influence not just your character but also other mastery, not to mention stuff like set bonuses.
>What the FRICK is the point of Battle Mage on Irene?
Fat tank who spam heals herself whenever she attacks. Give her Flames of Regeneration + Enough Rest + the masteries that make her heal when she consumes concentrated magic charges and she can be fast, tanky and sustainable.
>she can be fast, tanky and sustainable.
I think you would have to either be completely ignorant of how the game works or intentionally build her poorly for her to NOT be fast and tanky
Yeah well the idea is that you can make your already tanky frontline into a walking cover for your other frontliners instead of making Sion into a cover for your ranged units.
the funny thing is that martial artist and battle mage both have skills to turn her into cover
Magic armour is always-on and Battlemage has masteries that give it damage reduction. Iron Wall uses your turn to activate. Plus they can both stack to give Irene +200% block rate, and BM can activate Iron Wall for free at the end of each turn with one of their mastery sets.
I like auto iron wall set on Irene
That's me. Can build her bulky and strong as frick, but she's so slow that the battle is over by the time she gets a turn.
early game its just a matter of speed, mostly gear will cover this but if not then put extreme speed skill on her. If that not enough go for shukuchi (Lightning Reflexes + Run + Bounding Stride + Extreme Speed)
midgame or 20s-30s is when a bunch of -at skills and sets start showing up, getting these can help mitigate the trap that is counterattack so its a good idea to put a few on her
Is counter attack bad? I've been running it on Albus, and I've been hesitant to take it off since it seems good for taking out melee units I can't otherwise oneshot.
its not exactly bad. its just you get it long before you have any way to mitigate its downsides
said downsides will make themselves more and more apparent as you fight larger number of enemies and their defences get better or you miss more attacks
I haven't even seen those masteries yet, I'm tempted to switch over to Martial Artist for now since I'm only around LVL 20. I feel like I'd get more use out of it than BM for now.
I wouldn't say it's equivalent to a skill tree since it's much more open-ended with what you can frick around with. I'd say it's more of a "perk" type system that rewards you for comboing a sequence of specific masteries.
Shut the frick up, Spoonist.
bad character design
t. villain
gotta say, her hero/villain autism really sold me on her
then her "what do you mean red pandas are cute?" moment just made it better
IKR
what a ferocious moron
>Also from what I played it looks like the "in depth unit customization" that everyone is so hype on this game about, is equivalent to JRPG skill trees.
>Am I wrong?
You are. Every character can equip masteries that give passive or active bonuses. There are hundreds of different masteries, and they make sets when you have specific combinations of them on your characters for extra bonuses.
On top of that, there is also a monster capturing system with one of the later characters that lets you tame any beast in the game, level them up, evolve them and give them their own mastery boards. There's also a drone system with machine-only masteries which is less in-depth but still fun to play with.
Meant to quote
instead of OP
that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT, you get a limited number of passive bonuses or active abilities, and "set-bonuses" aren't anything new either.
>monster capturing system
this is also something I recognize from other JRPGs.
Not that I think it's bad, I just think it's a little overblown. I didn't expect "XCOM the jarpig" i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization with how everyone explained it.
I shouldn't have expected others to live up to my standards of gameplay-customization autism
>that pretty much looks like slotting materia, or item abilities in FFT
neither of those are skill trees bro
>muh pedantics
you are an autistic homosexual, i'm just saying that the game looks like treaded ground as far as unit customization goes, though it's cool and interesting that the system was applied to an XCOM-like tactics game.
Really doesn't look too outstanding or complex, just not what I was expecting since threads on here talk like this game has actually in-depth unit customization rather than perk-based progression
yep, looks like you are just finding reasons to b***h
frick off
>finding reasons to b***h
at what? game looks fun, is fun so far, and i'm excited to see how it plays out from mid to end game.
The customization system is treaded ground, maybe to you its complex so i won't say it's objectively not complex, but it's very simple to grasp and understand.
Perk go here, do thing. Simple is fine, but I expected some peak autism from threads about this game.
I should've known it was typical weebs over-posting about their favorite game rather than actual autists fiending over a new autism-simulator.
If you think calling the skill system of your favorite game "bitching" you are a pathetic snowflake homosexual.
>732 skills and 394 possible skill sets is overblown
anon, I think what you need to do is either shut up and play the game or frick off
this is the nicest way i can say this because it seems like you just want to complain before even getting into it
im playing it now, its alright
>muh number spam
yeah city of heroes has 100000s of possible sets because of the increased amount of slots.
The actual amount of slots you have really doesn't amount to much as far as build customization/complexity goes. Wide as a puddle, as it were.
So this game is just final fantasy tactics "Item Abilities" Except instead of equipping 5 slots of gear you have like 50 slots. Wow! never before seen insanely complex and in depth customization!
Again, I didn't even say it was bad. I'm interested in building up my units into niche roles because i've never played a tactical squad RPG with JRPG-build customization. And i've played a lot of build-autism games. Which is why i'm so much more knowledgeable on the subject. You gays are just defending you favorite game, which is understandable.
>i expected some city-of-heroes tier customization
As a former CoH build autist, good fricking luck. If you ever find anything like that do let us know.
>CoH tier customization
Didn't that game basically let you do almost anything, and it could be viable if you put some thought into it?
Maybe not 'optimal efficiency', but viable.
What kind of customization did CoH allow?
Serious question: is Ray a gyaru?!
Also stop responding to the esl autist, he's baiting at this rate.
>Serious question: is Ray a gyaru?!
I think the argument could be made that she is
however, I believe if so that she is one of those mythical "purebreed" gyarus as she seems to have a natural tan and blond hair
Ray was born a gyaru.
Can anyone tell me what this gap in Chapter IV's gallery is? I'm also missing one at the very end.
>he didn't get the albus and sion dating route
oh no no no bros
did you not get ray?
Time to become and achievement hunter
Two of them are from To Make Matters Worse when you rescue Kylie with Heixing, the rest are from picking Ray in Scent of the Past.
Thanks, I knew about the unique dialogue you get with Kyle but for whatever reason the fact that there's a second page of options in Scent of the Past completely slipped my mind.
Irene is cute, cute!
She's my favorite cute goblin
She's not cute. She's fearsome!
Underrated comment.
what is it with k*reans and red hair
red hair best hair
She uses fire so they gave her red hair.
Irene has kept me from buying this. She is so generic and boring that it makes me think the whole game is. What an uninspired design.
well that's a shame
Should I be building for hit chance around the time I get Heixing or so? I feel as if it's getting to the point where flanking enemies for hit chance in a reasonable manner is hard due to enemy stats and level design without relying on my melee units.
I held off on this for ages because of them still releasing content for it, but god damn, this game is fantastic. The story is surprisingly good too, even with the sometimes awkward translation.
I just got Ray, so can anyone tell me when I unlock the beast taming mechanic? I've been holding off on doing sidequests while waiting for it.
Also, can I recruit Luna at some point?
2 more characters until beast taming. You're at the point of the game where it starts to just throw characters at you, though. Maybe another 8 maps or so.
>Also, can I recruit Luna at some point?
Sadly no. She and Marco both have classes that the party never gets access to.
>Sadly no. She and Marco both have classes that the party never gets access to.
Gay.
Actually it might be even sooner. I think I mixed up the order of recruitment.
I'm going to stop typing now, because I clearly don't know what I'm talking about.
beast taming comes with giselle who is 2-3 missions after ray
ok but who's best girl and boy so far ?
Anne and Isaac
She is so precious and loveable, i can't imagine this game without her.
holy shit Irene is an absolute womanlet, Anne is only like 14 or 15 and she's about to heightmog her already
imagine just picking her up and doing dirtty villainous things to her wherever you want
I didn't take a cap of Irene's stats screen and as far as I can tell there's no way to look it up again in-game, but here's Anne's.
Millions of e-girl from japan can't beat this perfection.
> no way to look it up again
And for reference...
shorty!
She actually looks pretty bulky to be just 48kg.
Cosndiering she is running h24 around the city, hyperactive like a squirrel and eat a lot she is probably all muscles and 0 fat.
Why is she so small, bros?
155cm isn't that short for a woman.
Depends on where you're from.
For Korea it's not short.
Average height for Korean woman is around 160cm so she is rather short
>she's about to heightmog her
One of her little bubbles in the office is about how she's worried about not growing.
Why is she like this?
Is there a video on youtube compiling all these possible dialogue options?
i like how she becomes more level-headed as the plot advances
>First mission I actually failed because Kylie got OHKO'd by a frog's forestallment
>Retry
>Have Heixing meet up with Kylie's group this time
>Don't just get different dialogue but a totally different cutscene
Cutest couple
Heixing is for Anne. Kylie is best girl and Heixing is best boy, though.
Anne's everyone's girl.
Elasticity was a mistake.
Who are your jobbers anons? For me it's Giselle and Alisa, because with their current builds they really lack good action time reduction. Giselle usually gets smacked before she can get her traps and pet set up and the occasional accidental fire support activation really doesn't help. Alisa is kind of built as a 1v1 duelist but since she is too slow to the frontline she ends up on cleanup duty and maybe proccing blood wind on Bianca via cover
For me it's Anne and Albus, but they're both still usable
>Anne
She's running a Witch build with tons of crowd control and damage, but her speed is so low that she rarely gets a turn. I recently reworked her build to make her better, but she's still only got 70ish speed
>Albus
Takes a few turns to get rolling. Curse of Sword stacks pretty quickly with my build, but until it does he inflicts pretty low damage. I really want to squeeze Muscle Training into his build, but it requires a lot of shuffling or me to give up Body Training. He has stun immunity from Superior Sturdy Headgear because I like giving up a gear slot more than I like giving up mastery slots to fit Veteran into builds these days.
I like white mage Anne too much for witch, putting regen on the whole group with miracle is too good. Witch Bianca is my preferred pick since she can still one shot things but can also do some supporting stuff like stripping buffs
Yeah my Giselle build isn't too good, but when she get's a fat trap off with her draki baron buddy nearby it's nothing but good times
Have you tried alchemist Ray with make chemical concoction? I have a bunch of sets to increase the rate at which she generates stacks and the cans she lobs can delete swarms of enemies
>Giselle
>Lacks Good AT reduction
>Gets smacked
What?
To answer your question, Leton, Bianca and Alisa. Just haven't figured them out yet.
At this point it's Ray, she does pathetic damage and her utility abilities are just worse than Anne's.
Albus is my MVP, I gave him all swordsman-focused masteries and I just have him run into enemies' faces and kill them with his melee attack and forestallment.
Albus and Alisa. Can't get a build I like on either of them. My drone isn't much better.
>Albus
bleed build, I don't think Albus has a chance in hell of competing with any other character in the same categories he's in without bleed. Make sure to grab the enough rest mastery set for either MK or GS as they're pretty great
>Alisa
I didn't like her until I stuck quick grasp of the situation on her which mitigates her lack of speed nicely, shortly after I realized I should stick quick grasp of the situation on every frontliner. It's a good mastery
Speed isn't really Alisa's problem considering she gets auto-turns if she gets attacked 4 times, as a Barb. I haven't seen a good WK build that didn't involve 1S/catharsis cheese though.
>considering she gets auto-turns if she gets attacked 4 times
??? Where does this come from? I've never seen auto turns happen with Alisa
Her crafted gear.
Sion, had a hearty kek at the end of the game when the news report was sucking him off but he was just my benchwarmer ever since I got Leton. Leton is also pretty useless rn, but I get some sick extra damage in when Ray covers him, frick I love Ray she does so much damage it's unreal. The only reason my Kylie isn't a benchwarmer is because her awaken support is pretty nice, and I know I can count on her if I need a timely 1-shot on something not too tanky.
Sion should be your first glass canon, you're trying to use him as melee character? He's much better as black mage.
it was the inverse for me - as soon as I switched Sion to battle mage he started keeping up
My leton is a dodge meme instead
The easy way to make Kylie do more damage is to give her hemorrage. It applies mid-Attack Protocol.
Battlemage is good as backline cover, too. I've used him in the past as a mobile block for Heixing to Cover Move against, because unlike Irene battlemage he doesn't have to run up to enemies to hit them.
Does anyone have a tanky albus build for destrons?
>14 year old girl character
>Flashes her panties every time she uses her special
>When fighting Roberto with her he spams sticky webs instead of attacking
What did they mean by this?
>>When fighting Roberto with her he spams sticky webs instead of attacking
He doesn't want to hurt her
I finally caught one!
Just gotta level this little guy up and then I'll have every water mastery in the game
Helps if I don't forget the picture
Found a link to an old devblog, pretty interesting.
https://www.indiedb.com/games/troubleshooter/articles
>Let me introduce attractive but fatal women
kek
>*mic noises*
>Uhmmmmm, is this mic on?
>*ahem*
>I'd like to make an announcement
Awww she is so cute when she is embarassed.
I don't remember someone posting that, so there goes
https://twitter.com/BraveDandyLion/status/1532655677508026368
Nice shoulders, Gil.
Draki queen is lowkey disappointing
Shame
POV: You are Albus
I try not to be a waifuhomosexual but Giselle, and that tomboy chick are very attractive. And I'm not even into tomboys that much.
But of course, but Bianca takes the cake
>that tomboy chick
That refers to at least three different characters.
Yeah but he's obviously talking about Alisa.
>tomboy chick is very attractive
He obviously means Kylie
How can one company go and make every girl best girl? That's not fair
Reminder Irene is 20yo and therefore lewdable
Valhalla law looks pretty flexible, just like Anne, if you catch my drift.
But if she sees it she'd call me a villain
the absolute gremlin
Luna is ◯◯yo and therefore lewdable
Pedogays get the rope. Anne is only for head pats.
I thought I was cool for being able to take control of a Destron, I thought the game was telling me "good job bro here's your free terminator." I even crit healed it to full with my storm draki baron while it was in shutdown state
Should I focus on attack power or esp for Irene?
ESP is the easy choice if you're running her as a battlemage: Red Panda Somersault is a pure ESP attack, and the scalings of her other attacks can be made equal parts ESP and Attack with a mastery.
If you're running Martial Artist you'll probably want to focus on attack power, but it's a less straightforward choice than Battlemage/ESP.
2022... I am forgotten...
An anon in a past thread said that she ended up becoming Albus.
they should dress up Albus as Maria then!
its Albus.
I have no idea what is going on in roughly a third of the background systems thus far but I love it
>12 hour session of Troubleshooter
That'd be right. Very impressive, anon!
send help
Me but add 30 hours to those numbers and with Battletech mods instead.
I'll eventually try out Troubleshooter instead of having it gather dust...
It's so hard to take spoonism seriously when they worship cutlery
They don't literally worship cutlery, they just use it as their symbol, since it works as a metaphor for their beliefs, ie the whole "one spoon from your bowl" thing.
>Not even 3 digits hours
Casuals
The ride never ends
I think he's a bit lost.
I wouldn't mind getting a crossover at some point.
Nah, he's on right point.
Could kylie hack angela?
pretty big drone update today. More in the future.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/470310/
>The default stats of each drone frames now have been more diversified.
So what, does my existing drone now have different stats?
I haven't checked but probably?
Or maybe it only affects newly created drones.
They do, my drones have different stats now. The main difference is my high speed drone lost around 400 HP (and gained a couple Output somehow), but my reinforced drone became a fat boy. I'll have to look through my screenshots if I have any drone stats taken before the update.
The update didn't really specify it unless you were paying attention, but a bunch of drone masteries got changed from being generic Machine masteries into Control/Reinforcement Program masteries. There are also SP masteries for machines now, like the one that gives you 10 SP for every enemy within your line of sight. It's an Information mastery.
Looking through those mastery changes makes me want to make an incinerator drone. Also the ice drones can inflict freezing now.
Destrons also got absolutely massacred, which is probably a good thing
>Special Armour makes you take 25% damage from hits below 10% of your max HP instead of total no-sell
>Automatic Re-Attack doesn't activate from counterattacks anymore
>Auto-Dodging Response and Automatic Suppressive Counter Attack both now have a limit of 3 activations per turn
Overall it looks like pretty nice buffs to player-created machines and severe nerfs to enemy machines.
are transporter drones still the best?
I think they're less good in comparison because other bases got a ton of new effects through their masteries. As far as I can tell, transporter drones didn't actually get nerfed.
My reinforced drone is a 7K+ health boy now
And if you picked information, the damage reduction of multiple hits of the same type is 20%+
For each time it triggers.
its not like anything could kill drones before.
>And if you picked information, the damage reduction of multiple hits of the same type is 20%+ For each time it triggers.
It wouldn't surprise me if that was just bad wording. That's going to make drones real immortal against any of the maps that are full of Drifter clowns.
I hardly have any modules but I still love my incinerator drone because I'll park it behind Irene/Alisa and it'll toast everything around her with auto fire support. Might be a god-tier combination if I put joy of burning on Irene
>Special armor no longer makes you take 0 damage
>Automatic Re-attack doesn't trigger with counter or responsive attacks anymore.
>Auto-dodging response and a lot of other masteries have a cap of 3 if its not your turn
>Auto restore device is literally useless in removing disables that shut it down
Wow, it will be completely different fighting destrons now
Also apparently fire fighter drones are the anti-ESP drones?
are there any tactical games like troubleshooter customization wise?
no.
Is there anything good I could buy with valkyrie coins?
Aside from mastery slots
Not really. There are a handful of crafting recipes you can buy in town for 1 valkyrie coin each, but none of those items are important and you end up with loads of excess coins.
The new map is full of tier 2 White Tiger guys. That'll probably make the final base game mission less of a surprise.
>Houcheng doesn't even appear as an enemy
houcheng is dead
Bro, the mission is level 42
Dronebros how do we feel about these changes?
I like it. More interesting to make drones now, and destrons feel a lot more fair. I just tried 54v after the changes and they're still very powerful, but it doesn't feel like Destrons And Friends anymore.
eh, some nice mastery sets here and there but transporter drone is still king because extra frame + ai slots
Can I wife up girls in this game?
No
And you have to scrap around for any hints of romance
misty sexo
dlc when
>Ray switching teams in that crabmit mission
>Her team is an absolute disaster that if it wasn't for Sion and Irene's block and stun immunity it would have been literally wiped out
>Albus team gets by perfectly
I find it cool when the devs way to connect story and gameplay match, but sometimes it fits too damn well
Is there any reason not to have shukuchi on everyone?
Early on, not really. It's universally useful and you can get the masteries for it really fast at a point where most of your other options are going to be pretty boring and you won't be able to complete many sets yet. Later on you'll get much better sets, and you only have so many slots to use. Shukuchi will still be good, but it doesn't compare to some of the more OP stuff.
Its awesome until you reach 80+ speed on gear alone
Do the masteries that give you increased drop rates for materials affect materials gathered from psi-stones?
I don’t think so.
I am ready for Misty
>there's both a water and ice elemental type
>there's both a wind and lightning elemental type
this always turns off my autism inhibitors
The troublemaker list does tell you in the bottom right, of course that is 0 help to anon who just bought the game
Water is just poison and there's no reason wind and lighting should be the same
>The troublemaker list does tell you in the bottom right
What?
He means on this screen
Well that's completely useless then since you can't see a unit's screen at all before you've unlocked their page, so you can't find out if a unit isn't available on your current difficulty.
too bad most of the water masteries and sets are trash
Pretty much. So many of them are dedicated to just earning more SP or staying in overcharge for longer, and even ones with real effects rely on you stacking otherwise useless water masteries, or are gimmicky as frick
>Still Water's 1% (2% with set) block/dodge shred per water mastery equipped
>Vortex's dodge shred based on your dodge from water SP which is 10% for 1 attack slot and 2 training points without other masteries
>Double Extreme Poison causing severe friendly fire if you kill a poisoned enemy near allies or yourself if you're unfortunate enough to finish them with a melee attack
The only one that might possibly be useful (other than the obligatory +100% damage to poisoned targets) is Kelpie, and that's hard to tell without testing because the descriptions of it and its set are still machine-translated nonsense
Did I read this right?
Does the set make it actually useless?
I'm pretty sure it's trying to say that if Keplie puts debuffs on enemies it cures them from you. Whether or not it's useless depends on how wrong the description in the base mastery is
>is it within 4 tiles? There is text on other masteries where the effects are described as "adjacent by 4 tiles", which would make this mastery fantastic
>is it cardinal adjacency like Magic Armour/Iron Wall, the only masteries in the game that aren't radius-based because cover doesn't work on diagonals?
In any case, I'm about to go test it against some drifter clowns. Results shortly.
It looks like Kelpie actually only does activate from cardinal directions, which is a bit annoying. However, it also applies to armourbreak which I wasn't expecting.
I think the set effect is bugged, or works in some strange way. My crab died before I got my turn again, but it looked like it was still debuffed after the debuffs spread.
What am I missing out on from having an offline save? My internet is shit and limited so I chose offline
Nothing important. The biggest change is how district safety levels work (they last for a certain amount of missions while offline, but online they last for a few hours of real time). There's also PVP, but I'm an offline player too so I don't know how popular it is.
Bought this game recently, what does difficulty change exactly ? Is there possible to change it midgame ? And also should I bother with Online mode?
pretty sure it tells you rather clearly what difficulty changes and elites are largely the same as regulars but with higher stats
yes
no
Pretty much the only thing the game doesn't tell you about the difficulties is that there are some exclusive bosses that only appear on Hard or higher.
>exclusive enemies
Might be Very Hard or higher, actually. I don't fully remember, and the game doesn't tell you.
There's no reason not to start with online because you can go from online -> offline at any time, but you can't go offline -> online
Can you get all the masteries you'd get from training beasts by killing them or other beasts? Not sure I want to grind out that much beast training especially since you can only have 1 in battle at a time
Nope. You can get most of them through combat, but there are always one or two that you have to level beasts for. This includes legendary beasts, which almost all have their own unique ones at 16 class level.
You can see which masteries you'd get by levelling them on their entries in the troublemaker list, so you can pick and choose the ones with masteries you care about instead of blindly levelling one of each beast.
Thanks guess I’ll die now
i hate that there is no witch bianca build that isn't either hellgate memery or a discount blackmage
This is my witch Bianca. She makes enemies bleed and spams aoe Arresting Force. I haven't fully optimised it yet because I only switched her to Witch a couple of days ago after getting bored of how one-note Black Mage is.
I believe it's online only, and uses teams from other players rather than your own.
>I believe it's online only, and uses teams from other players rather than your own.
Offline bros not like this...
why must witch sets require curse and trace on when the frick am i going to get hit and live to tell the tale as bianca
I should probably remove Curse. It's not part of the witch masteries, it's part of Distorted Heart. I have gotten use out of it though. Bianca likes to get Immortality from all those buff gaining masteries.
Looking at it more, Joyful Witch is a bit of a meme set that I should probably get rid of in general. That'd probably let me throw in a bunch of actually good masteries.
Attempt 2. I must have spent around 20 minutes agonising over this board. It was difficult to find the mastery configuration that takes advantage of Honesty's extra training points, because I need it for property limit. Most of the setups I tried ended up with something like 50/57 training points, which is just not right.
>9th party member joins
>Can't think of any character I'd want to replace with him
Does anyone know why i can't chose the "play against player characters controlled by ai" option? I have already competed more than one joint drill so i should have a "victorious team" the ai could use
>Mission with like 30 enemy bicrons when every single one of them can OHKO any one of my units each turn
What the frick
Time for cover and smokescreen. That map can wipe endgame teams if they play badly.
Bicrons have shit accuracy just drop some smoke bro
sir where is your blood wind mastery set???
Ain't nobody got Basic slots for that
This enemy placement here made me very sad that I couldn't bring Heixing for this mission.
At least Sion can go ham on that map.
I don't pronounce the stars, I just read the whole line in a cheeky tone
How do you pronounce the stars in Sion's dialogue, exactly?
Just say "star" whenever you're reading it in your head. I do it, and it works like a charm.
I pronounce it as uwu in my head
Is sion G A Y ??
No, it's hinted he has a crush on Irene at the end of the DLC
More like throughout the entire game, but sure
shut the frick up irene is for myself only
No he's just a golden retriever in a human body
Yes but only top
Yes, he is big homosexual for Heixing bro.
It's a happy accentuation
Tactical sisters, should I get Othercide?
Eh. It's not a terrible game and you might enjoy it if you have a higher tolerance for certain types of game design than I did. Personally, I ended up hating it after a while.
On the good side, it's got a striking visual style, and the combat mechanics are pretty good for the most part. It's got a lot of hidden depth and tactically a lot of it is based on preventing damage by interrupting or redirecting enemy attacks which I found pretty cool. It doesn't lean on the nuXCOM formula like Troubleshooter and so many other games in the genre today, which also makes it more interesting to me.
On the bad side, the story is masturbatory trash that's trying too hard to be 2deep4u but only comes across as shallow emo nonsense. Luckily it's unimportant and easy to ignore, but it did make me roll my eyes more than once. More importantly, all of the mechanics outside of combat seem deliberately designed to be as frustrating as possible and to stretch a 5-hour game into a 30-hour game by forcing you to grind to accomplish anything and restart the entire game to get the things you need. It's got this roguelite thing going on where you get points to unlock new tools every time you lose the game. which I absolutely despise. All the more since some pretty important mechanics are locked behind this system. It's also got other mechanics that seemingly serve no purpose than to force you to grind more. For the most egregious example, as I mentioned a lot of the combat revolves around avoiding damage. Unfortunately, all of the best skills to avoid damage cost HP to use, so it's impossible to go through most fights without taking at least some damage. Which wouldn't be much of a problem, except that healing is completely moronic. You can only heal outside of combat by sacrificing a character that's of higher level than the character you're healing, which means you constantly have to keep grinding up your stock of future sacrifices just to keep your main squad alive.
Holy shit, that sounds absolutely infuriating.
>look it up
>asiatic game
Fricking shame it looked cool
It keeps happening
I warned you about villains bro
I told you dog
She is so beautiful cant believe she is single. Is everyone homosexual in valhalla?
She is a special needs kid.
It's the safest way. If you're in a straight relationship in Valhalla, either at least one of you dies horribly, or it's a mission objective to murder you.
Albus transitioned to avoid this fate: if he isn't a fertile female he can't become a mother and die as part of someone's tragic backstory.
Im still mad albus should have been a hot girl, her model was very good. Who was the fricking gaylord who said "yeah lets to the usual japanese self insert". Don't the coreans hate the japs?
>Japanese self-insert
It's a Korean self-insert.
Koreans and Japs may hate each other, but they also look almost the same outside of DPRK
What do you think MC truly stands for ?
Take that back you double villain, Albus is good as he is now
Not gonna happen, you are the villain to prefer the generic anime guy.
There are plenty of very well done female designs already, adding 1x Miss Generic instead of Haha.. man isn't going to change much.
Besides, it would upset the dynamic with Sion and Irene if AlBust was as dense as Albus is now.
>it would upset the dynamic with Sion and Irene
I would say it would make it only more interesting.
Nah, Albia or whatever the frick her name was before transition would just be a butch girl trying to dom Sion and occasionally lezzing Irene to control her.
>trying to dom Sion and occasionally lezzing Irene to control her
This is the hottest shit i've ever read.
turbo-Satan here makes a compelling point
only issue is would Giselle still be trying to groom her?
I think Giselle's just in this for the chaos.
Rules of Nature and shit like that.
Isn't giselle lez for the cop? Would groom her eventually, i think giselle could potentially groom everyone just for the sake of doing it.
I think Giselle just enjoys fricking with Jane.
Jane seems blessed and straight.
Giselle is clearly thirsty for Albus. I’m not even sure she’s consciously aware of it, but she wants him. Or perhaps more accurately, she sees in him the potential to be the kind of man that she wants to mate with, and so she is pushing him to be that man. Or as the other anon said, she’s grooming him.
The email you get after doing Albus side in A scent of the past reads like a love letter
To be fair, given that this place is an anarchocapitalist paradise, anyone who fights back against a hero is violating the NAP and, thus, a criminal.
Is Battle Mage the one that hits people?
I make her run up and counter the shit out of people.
Martial Artist is better at that. Battlemage is for sustain/ESP pseudocrits
Okay I use Martial Artist. It's been a long time since I have played this pain simulator because i'm at the part with the Drifter Clowns and they're fricking my ass like I want to frick the clown girl from Ace Attorney.
Kill the skeletons first as they will armorbreak the shit out of you
Put phoenix on for those unlucky big dick enemy crits
Revenge is a good mastery set, I find that a crit counterattack will instant kill black clowns, negating the nastiest parts of their kit. There’s another set that buffs counterattack damage off of the enemy’s damage that activated it but I forgot the name and specifics of it
Front breakthrough is unblockable so it’s invaluable against white clowns
Just upgraded Ray's Boom Spray to +9, so next update is sure to feature cool new broken Lvl 50 Legendary spray.
Irene has no hips.
"The next update schedule is undecided."
I swear every time I start this, I see that.
Why don't they just have a little graphic on the loading screen that lists the date when they do decide?
Because by the time they decide, it's already done
What masteries should I give to Alisa and Bianca?
I don't know what to do with them, and the way I build them they suck.
Just be yourself bro
Myself is seeing the failure screen a lot
Post builds.
Bianca is not too hard to make a competent build with, she's just a mage and her skills don't require any tomfoolery to make work. Trying to make a fantastic build with her is effort, though.
Alisa's a bit trickier and her builds are totally different depending on whether you want to go White Knight or Barbarian Warrior. If you're using BW, the mastery set Cry of the Wrath (Roar of Victory + Sweet Home, Battlefield + Encourage + Outrage) is pretty much mandatory for a rage buff that doesn't get dispelled when you attack.
I picked White knight because it seemed like a better idea.
White Knight has some really kickass masteries and is equipment breaker extraordinaire. This was my board from my first playthrough that I was really happy with. A couple of the White Knight masteries there require you to kill Snake to get them so you probably won't have them, but that'll give you some ideas to go off.
There's a mastery set for White Knight that makes you bigger, stronger and faster the more WK/Swordsman masteries you have equipped, so I just tried to fit as many as I could. Breakthrough is great against clowns and destrons, and she'll easily stack them up with 4x armourbreak and 4x Destroy Weapon.
If I was going to remake this board I'd probably remove Veteran and give her some Sturdy Headgear instead, which would probably enable even more single target goodness.
If you decide to go barbarian warrior this is what I did
My shot in the dark would be a few years time skip and the characters from the first game make guest appearances from time to time. Also hag 18 y/o Anne and Luna as main characters
I like the clowns more than xXx_5kvll_xXx and their fire support spam
>I like the clowns more than xXx_5kvll_xXx and their fire support spam
*equips Darkness Hunter*
ez gg
>having to take 2 otherwise useless masteries to activate skull team's counter
When you fail a mission do you keep farmed battlemasteries?
I know you keep at least some of them, but I'm not sure if they have the usual chance of being lost on failure like items.
I wonder if Banished Children will be an entirely new cast or not
Frick it. I'm making Heixing into a guy who just sprays status effects on people. I don't care if it's a bad idea.
Wait, how the hell does the Clown's fury shit work anyway? Sometimes they just start infighting.
It turns out medicine can be bad for your health.
Unpossible! A friendly Chinaman introduced me to Opium and I feel great!
Frenzy potions have a small chance of granting Rampage instead
All these late game stages having 80 enemies including 10 snipers with fire support are incredibly tiresome. Especially when they OHKO your in-cover smokescreened units.
You'll miss the snipers when you get to the Clowns.
At least a coked up Heixing can just delete snipers with a sweep.
Really
Yeah. You can have other people remove it if they're next to you, though.
Man, really? I would've been fricking pissed if I got this at release, there's way too much that went unaddressed with that ending. It's basically only half a story at this point. And it's been almost two years since the first DLC, which was only half a year after release.
This is the same thing I felt with Katana Zero and Gravity Rush. Great games with blatantly unfinished stories.
The DLC doesn't resolve anything in the story either, but at least it's fun. Prepare to get clowned.
So the game is called Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children and we only end up getting a vague discussion of Abandoned Children being the name of a plan that exists and we don't even find out what it was? Never mind everything else, that's just thematically absurd.
I suppose aside from everything that went totally unaddressed, one element of the ending did leave me a little confused. Did the mayor end up foiling the old fart's plans by having the White Tiger gang get taken down by Albus' team? I'm not sure if something was lost in translation but it seemed like when talking about the plan they were wanting the battle to keep going for a while with the Spoonists, but Carter hijacking them and Albus taking down the White Tigers threw a wrench in the old man's plans and left the mayor in a stronger position.
One of the cutscenes explains the idea behind Abandoned Children pretty well
>deliberately weaken the security in one district of the city
>people with anti-government tendencies flock to that district
>they either join a gang, or join Spoonage
>Spoonage gets secretly propped up by the government and grows in size, either absorbing or wiping out the other gangs as it does so
>eventually the Spoonists leave the city and go on their pilgrimage to ~~*coordinates*~~, taking all the anti-government people with them
The explosion in the backstory was a previous attempt at stamping out dissenters. Abandoned Children is their latest attempt.
I think Karl had Albus wipe out the White Tigers because they don't serve any purpose anymore. The Spoonists are gone, and the Black Tigers are a legitimate troubleshooter company now. The city's in a pretty good shape at the end of the game.
Better yet, the Spoonists seem to have very little logistical support or ability to survive outside of a city (if the lack of (even an attempt at) farmland around their base is any indication).
Worse come to worst, if Albus's company broke up because of any number of things, as soon as Spoonage went on the Pilgrimage, they won and it was just a matter of finishing the fight as fast as possible.
To add to what
said, the wrench in the plan was Carter was supposed to kill the spoonists, not become the new Black Spoon. But at the end of the day, the Cartel is gone and the spoonists are too, so the council closes the project. But they do start Banished Children, which involves [spoiler] sending Hanged Crown to kill the spoonists. [/spoiler]
It was planned to be an ongoing franchise from the start, so it's unfinished on purpose. Which is ridiculous considering they almost didn't get the first game out of the door and the status of the sequel is still somewhat uncertain. Would've been much better if they just made one story for this game and then come up with something new for the next game.
Never went into korean dramas eh? They like doing this. 2000 hours of backstory, character, shenenningans between every single guy you see on screen, good or evil and the story is in the next chapter.
>Katana Zero
What? If anything it ended right before a good sequel bait moment
The sad thing about Katana Zero is that they didn't make another game already. Frick me it was good.
I love Irene! Irene is cute!
She's not cute, she's ferocious!
Ferociously cute!
>Nets on bare skin
This stuff give me a boner like nothing else. I wish it was more common irl.
>it's a two characters are isolated in the middle of a mob and have to leave the scene episode
Frick my life
If it was the Leton and Carter escape, make sure to beat each type of Black tiger there
Do I have to play it on Hard to see everything?
No, its about getting them in your criminal record list
God damn villains, can't turn your back on them for a second.
IT KEEPS HAPPENING!
Which mission is this?
looks like one of the side missions where you have to get rid of yasha
Oh yeah, I forgot how most of those look like since you can't replay them.
You can by talking to the npc who gave them. Useful to go back and redo the first Yasha mission once you recruit Giselle, as taming it unlocks a key mastery for Irene you wouldn't otherwise get until Lv.47.
Holy shit, I just realized the bartender on Shooter Street has more connection to the rest of the cast than Irene.
Wow, did not notice I took that screenshot at an odd time for the animation.
There's a bartender on Shooter Street?
Ehh, who is Silva supposed to be again?
Leader of White Tiger before Foo.
That's deep lore. I'm pretty sure his name isn't stated more than twice at most..
She does? I don't recall her being relevant at all.
I was being a bit hyperbolic, I'll admit. Just trying to make a bit of fun of Irene's relative isolation from the rest of the cast.
Her best buff is about being isolated from the cast.
Is the high-risk high return mechanic buffing me or the enemy?
Says "Increase your hp by 300" and take 10% less dmg/deal 10% more dmg
The enemy. That text you mention is the description of the mastery which is given to the enemies
The enemy silly
The only time rank matters is for beasts for things like "eye of the king"
Btw, I would recommend caution with it
>The only time rank matters is for beasts for things like "eye of the king"
Ranks also give flat stat boosts on all modes, and even more on HRHR. It's really noticeable in the early missions if you play them on Cruel because it makes the generic enemies have 500-600 HP instead of 200-300. It matters less as the game goes on.
For the enemy , sure
>stop playing for a couple of months
>builds now suck
>level cap got higher
>drone builds suck
>all my work into the trash
Alright give me an update guide of what is good and what's sucks because I cant even complete cases in normal.
whatchumean?
drones got buffed and got much stronger
Drones got buffed unless you were spamming responsive attack masteries, which you probably weren't. The only general mastery changes I remember happening were the elemental "Overcharge lasts 2 turns longer" masteries getting changed to other effects.
Beasts can finally reach reasonable speeds
Drones got much more stuff, no QRD aside from enemy robots being generally nerfed
>white mage can use priest masteries but there are no priest masteries
>barbarian warrior can use marauder masteries but there are no marauder masteries
>hunter can use archer masteries but there are no archer masteries
>we can obtain slaughterer masteries but nobody can use them
>can obtain a pistol from Boris and a hammer from Renzy that nobody can use
hmmmmmmm
T3 classes, bro
Marauder promotes into Slaughterer, which is why there are references to Marauder masteries. They also probably promote into Barbarian Warrior as their second tier 2 class, because black clowns certainly didn't start as Swordsman.
Slaughterer masteries and unequippable weapons come from the same source: enemies use them and the drop system gives you whatever the enemies have.
Archer is probably just a dummied out class. I've gone looking for obscure classes and never found one of them.
I have no evidence of this yet, but I'm pretty sure the Spoonage white mages are promoted from priest rather than shaman.
>Kylie brought scholar masteries for alchemist Ray
>Giselle brought more gunman masteries for Heixing
>Leton brought more masteries for martial artist Irene
>Bianca brought more elementalist/black mage masteries for Sion and witch masteries for Anne
>Misty will bring more thief masteries for hacker Kylie
>swordsman, the very first class you play, has yet to get anything
Have they revealed anything about Misty's T2 classes, or anybody's T3 classes?
>anybody's T3 classes
Yeah, they have names in the localisation files. Everyone gets at least 3x T3 classes, some people get 4. They accidentally leaked a bunch of them in the live game so people were able to make an accurate list of who gets what (but nobody could actually class change into them, it was just accidental text).
I didn't save the list, but most of them are pretty easy to determine.
A lot of characters share a T3 class, for example I remember Giselle and Heixing both share Mountain Ranger.
Are they gonna make special masteries for all of these? that's a pretty big update not to mention a new character
I could imagine them not having very many class masteries of their own, since they'd also be able to mix and match tier 2 masteries.
Bro, you are talking about the devs that have civilians with their own personal class
>bloodwalker and blood mage
well, easy to figure out who gets those
any chance he might get non-lightning attacks from them?
>well, easy to figure out who gets those
A lot of them are fairly obvious.
If I had to guess:
>Phantom Thief/Spy/Ninja -> Misty
>Action Star/World Star -> Leton.
>Bloodwalker/Blood Mage -> Sion.
>Battle Master/Red Panda Master -> Irene
>Berserker/Gladiator/Guardian Knight -> Alisa
>Dark Sniper/Beastmaster -> Giselle
>Terminator/Mountain Ranger/Dark Ranger -> Heixing
>Archmage/Trickster/Black Witch -> Bianca
>Bishop/Saintess/Archwitch -> Anne
>Swordmaster/Red Mage/Eldritch Knight -> Albus
>Bombardier/Chaos Brush/Chemist -> Ray
>Mechanical Engineer/Black Hat/Meister -> Kylie
This leaves Leton, Sion, Irene and Giselle with one T3 class missing, but most likely they'll just share a class with someone else. For example Battle Master, Action Star, Archmage and Terminator respectively.
One of the game's biggest issues is how bad the pacing is early on, and there's no good way to deal with it except just knuckle down and get through it. You'll start relying less and less on the generic police units as you round out your roster and you'll eventually unlock new options like pets and crafting, but it takes a while before you get out of the early game.
If I remember right Leton and Irene share Battlemaster, Sion gets Archmage, and Irene, Albus and Sion all share Red Mage.
Giselle has Mountain Ranger as her third one.
It only has the appearance of a visual novel at first. Once the game starts properly it settles into something more like Disgaea/Fire Emblem.
Alright good to know since playing Online makes it more difficult to check out what decisions to make during the VN parts and not to mention the percentages for choice selection really screwing me over at times e.g. some choices you end up turning neutrals into allies or enemies.
Elementalist goes for all those that can use elements sans Leton, but yeah, Alisa didn't bring any swordsman masteries to the team
I don't remember about spirit either
Spirit Masteries are the domain of the crab.
How deep does the gameplay get? The generic cop troops and the cheesy crime fighter premise are filtering me hard.
Me too. The MC in op pic is filtering me too.
Irene isn't the MC. In fact, despite how the game's marketing seems to focus on her more than anyone else, she's easily the least relevant person in the entire plot, at least out of the playable characters. Even the DLC characters are more story-relevant than Irene.
>How deep does the gameplay get?
>11 different characters
>800andsomething different masteries
>almost every monster in the game is capturable and has their own customisable mastery board
>enemies eventually have full builds and play by the exact same rules your units do
It starts simple but ramps up.
Oh gods what did I get myself into I'm not here to play a visual novel T_T
>teleports behind you
>instantly gets wrecked
Kek.
I love forestallment.
It's all fun and games until one of the enemies starts going "tankity tank tank."
I think Troubleshooter would benefit from having more hag characters like Giselle. Just a thought.
So we are all in agreement there will be a world war at some point, right?
I think there's a pretty good chance of that. The 3 alliances still hate each other's guts, Valhalla has just released an armed cult into the world and sent a private army after it, and the Fortress of Suffering answers to no-one.
I'm also mindful of how both the game and the artbook specify destrons are "First generation" androids that served in the world war. The Caras Union probably has some nightmarish war robots now.
Not to mention destrons themselves get power creept immediately by Military Bicrons
I wish. The wartime scenarios in Ben's, Hanson's and Sanson's backstories were some of the most interesting parts in this game narratively speaking.
It'd also give us a chance to obtain and deploy Bicrons, perhaps even Destrons, in combat.
>The wartime scenarios in Ben's, Hanson's and Sanson's backstories
Is that all DLC stuff?
Yes.
I've been messing around with nonstandard beasts, and it turns out Lightning Yashas have this really fun skill that they can spam via Pincer Attack With Beast. It's a 5-radius dome centered on the yasha and hits every single target within the radius, which you can give stun chance thanks to lightning masteries. The damage isn't huge, but the spam is real. Considering how early you can get lightning yashas it'd probably be useful as an early to midgame pet.
Current board with a lot of remnants of its previous physical build before it learned Spider Web Electrocution. Muscle Training is staying because it gives some large HP bonus sets, but I'll remove Muscle Burst in the future and see where that takes me.
Fiddled with it a bit.
>removed Muscle Burst because it doesn't affect any of my skills, and the set it's a part of wasn't that good
>removed Overflowing Energy because it doesn't generate enough SP to reach overcharge anyway, and I don't want to put Roar of Victory on it
>removed Muscle Tolerance because with no Muscle Burst it wasn't part of a set, and nothing endgame uses ESP anyway
This thing is strong enough to murder its way through Giselle and Ray's duo mission, which is a good viability starting point. The lockdown is intense, and it does a lot of damage now (crits were around 3.3k on skeleton masks, 8k on black clowns)
Neat, I've never tried that out. Does this thing just not use its moves in combat, or did I always kill them too fast?
I'd have to open the game to check, but I'm pretty sure the enemy lightning yashas don't know it. Some beasts have skills that the generic versions don't know, but you can still get if you level them as a player.
There're so many hidden details in this game, it's hilarious. A shame many people never got into taming or just straight went for the epic/legendary beasts.
Another steam sale done, Another good amount of shilling for this game
Bravo, anon.
Doing god's work.
Oh hell I thought it ended at 3EST for no good reason
Is there a release date for the next DLC?
The last time they referred to it they said it was a long ways away. That's as specific as it's gotten.
I see, thanks anon.
How am I supposed to escape?
Here's a better view.
>Send Alissa to tard wrangle the enemies with inmortality and QUICK SHAVING
>snipe people with Bianca
>charge the tornado and clean house after dealing with everything
I did it that way
Finally cleared the map after a few tries, things I learned:
>Bibi is strong as frick
>either Alisa is weak or my build is shit (it's most likely the latter)
For me, it's the former. Alisa almost always dies for me.
Alisa’s not weak, but she is very swingy. Most other characters can have sub-optimal sets and still work, just not as well as if they were perfect. Alisa is not like this. Either she’s good, or she’s complete shit. No in between.
IIRC if you go the long way around and get to street level first, you can avoid aggroing everyone at once.
Beyond that, pretty much what
said. Granted I did this level before immortality was nerfed so Alisa could basically solo the level on her own.
wtf
>not using a spider web dispenser drone
ngmi
That whole view looks outright dystopian.
Thanks doc.
damn you
"Welcome to the world of tomorrow" Feat. Destrons.
you always have ray carrying concentration potions right?
because if not, you really should
I always ever carry healing potions because I'm a boring frick, but after seeing the skull masks buttholes using concentration points I have now seen their usefulness.
>after seeing the skull masks buttholes using concentration points I have now seen their usefulness
I love how enemies abide for the very same rules than the player. Lets you discover some interesting combos and uses of different stuff (masteries, items, etc).
These homies were sniping me even though I had high ground, blind spot, healing mist, and base defense stacked up on Giselle. The camo destron one shot Alisa too
>he doesn't play with all difficultly options turned on
>he doesn't handicap h himself by not using certain masteries, items or classes
>he doesn't compete all his missions in less than 300 AT
you didn't beat the game
>not mention of keeping everyone, even the robots, alive
ngmi
>using drones
Boy it sure smells like cheese in here
>they use masteries
Casuals homosexuals.
The only mastery I need is my own tactical mastery
50 hours in started at the beginning of the recent steam sale. Loving it so far, my latest unit was Anne. Just wondering how long until I unlock more units/everybody else. Albus and sion have been edging me about getting more troubleshooters.
That mission was nuts. But why the hell are there digital displays on the gravestones?
I think we have them irl now.
The 5th member takes a while to join, and then after you get him it starts to throw a character at you every 5-6 missions.
Watch out for me, villains!
Damn brats... Need correction!!
when moving long distances, is it faster to move the yellow distance or to travel the blue distance and use stand by?
I think it's faster to use your yellow distance if you're going very long distances with no chance of combat, but if you're running into fog it's faster to go blue + stand by so the delay between moving and attacking is smaller.
RIP your units. At least their AI is pretty weird.
Help
damn your albus be doing jack shit
he and heixing both got 1 tapped by the big electric frog before they got a turn to move. Luckily hero irene was solo'ing all the animals at the other entrances.
Flash is one hell of a skill.
I remember that particular negoori, and it hasn't got any problems killing people without flash stacks. It's got big fat beast ESP and does lightning damage that your front liners don't really have any defence against.
I got lucky, I saw that he was stacked with lv999 Flash before his turn and prioritized taking him out immediately.
Albus still managed to die as usual though.
Oh he comes pre-stacked with Flash? I didn't realise that
No, I attacked him first before he was even in my field of view with Heixing.
Irene filters me hard. I've almost bought this game six times and every time I catch a glimpse of her I just get bored. It's weird.
>They added CGs of Albus old room
Where?
1st chapter
When were they added?
It appears that Misty (my wife) has some dialogue portraits for cutscenes. Either dandy inteded for us to meet her before the dlc or the dlc is closer than it appears
Considering that Alisa and Bianca literally appear to us before everyone else, yes
There's lots of stuff in the files that's either "we'll need this in a year or five" or "we decided we don't actually need this"
Like this sleazy motherfricker, who only showed up in a few early promo screens.
She makes a small appearance in the post-map cutscene of Fire And Ice in the base game. It's not a full portrait, though.
I think they've been in the game for ages.
Oh, so that's what she was meant to look like.
>Weapons seller purposedly mentions [Villains] to trigger irene's autism and force the company to accept a request
well played, motherfricker
smug
For all your drone-crafting needs, m8s
>Frame Reinforcement is a thing
Every single drone needs more frame slots. I guess I'm always making drones with that OS now.
Now you understand why transporter drones with recharge sp + independent os used to be the only viable done choice
Gentlemen, it is with great displeasure that i inform you that this cheat sheet of mine is already due an update. Apparently the "output" mastery type can now be rolled upon drone crafting (First time i ever see it + the steam guide for drones listed it as unavailable to drones)
It's okay, it looked kinda ugly so you can fix some of it and see it become obsolete next week
> it looked kinda ugly
well excuse me mr graphic designer ;_;
Updated version here. Also fixed some serious mistake where I mixed up Open and Independent OSs (the masteries shown on Open OS belonged to Independent OS and vice-versa)
if you get to 260k bucks can you actually buy that building?
It doesn't let you. I remember someone here has tried it.
Nope. It's unlikely that you'll be able to get that much cash early on, but even if you grind to get it before the offer is given the story just assumes you can't afford it.
>tfw i already beat Alisa and Bianca's DLC
Now I have to do the rest of the purple missions, Already did the lvl.52 one, killed them all but it was a really close one, I can imagine the lvl.54 being a lot worse...
Also, is there a way to see which side missions you have actually beat instead of you just attempted?
I don't know if there's a way to tell full clears vs partial clears, but if you wipe out they'll still be shown as NEW.
I always abandon before getting wiped out, oh well, I'll just do all of them again.
What is the purpose of
>training manuals, since when using mastery boards seems to bypass consuming training manuals to remove masteries
>motivation, since it's so easy and cheap to refill
You don't get the masteries back when switching mastery boards. They stay used in the other board.
I just noticed that, that explains it.
Motivation is a system they made really early on and decided to neuter rather than remove. Training manuals are probably a similar story.
Yeah, ground/smoke effects rape my FPS
>picrel
I hate those wienery brats who bring their petty complaints about minor game features directly to the devs and expect them to change their game.
Hope the TS guys have enough self consciousness to ignore guys like that.
They ignore a lot of stupid ideas, but they also make a lot of small changes that don't really need to be made, especially since they're planning to use a different engine for the sequel. All these minor bugfixes aren't necessarily going to pay off.
>complains about his Albus
>not the 1346HP Bianca
If that's a Magic Knight Albus 2283HP is plenty. MK gets a bunch of damage reduction masteries and a set that lets them cheat death as long as they have more than 40 vigor.
>1346HP Bianca
I'm not sure what I'm doing with her, but she sure is strong, maybe I went too far with the glass cannon thing.
Well as janky as that build looks to me, it seems to be working for you if you cleared her duo mission.
The one change I'd make without rewriting her entire build would be to take out Fair Wind and stick in Honesty, then replace Wind Wall with either Impulse Fields or Second Heart. That way she's still really glassy, but she'd be able to survive a stray hit or two.
>janky
You're being too nice, I hadn't worried about it because it was working fine but now that I've posted it and I'm looking at it more carefully it really is a mess, I think this is better, using black mage now.
Based 57/57 board. Looks a lot more like a standard Bianca board now.
>Witch's Anger
uhhh anon you do realize that requires her to be hit and not die right
That whole mastery setup was shit, I was just using that class to unlock the rest of the Witch's masteries, I've seen fixed it now
>origin of magic
>0 ESP masteries
There are lots of ESP masteries there, anon. Don't confuse them with SP masteries.
No, anon was right. ESP masteries are the elemental masteries.
It looks like the anon who said it means elemental masteries is correct. Tested it myself and this is my damage breakdown. My Sion has no lightning masteries (Lightning ESP itself counts as a mastery), so it's only giving him a tiny bit of damage.
Hmm, I guess I'll get rid of Origin of Magic and its set, if it only ompliments wind masteries it doesn't benefit my current build at all.
Oh no, so I'd have to equip Wind masteries? But they're kinda shit, I only really have Origin of Magic because it's part of the Investigate Origin set, but how's this?
You just reminded me that I needed to change the name, she's not a Witch anymore.
It's not worth running wind masteries just to complement Origin of Magic/Investigate Origin in general. Hell, with your board, an Elementalist/BM mastery gives 10% esp attack from Magic Book/Forbidden Magic Book, while an ESP mastery gives 7% from Origin/Investigate. Obviously, this is a bad trade unless the wind masteries are doing enough more work to justify that attack loss.
>Some actual anon with taste that gives names to the mastery boards
You Black folk really think this character is cute? She looks like a goblin for frick's sake.
Is the video really stretched? I think she just looks like that, her head is massive.
>720x576
That's because I cut the rest of the video, here's a screenshot for comparison.
Anon, your crop got the aspect ratio backwards.
What the hell, it doesn't look like that to me, maybe it's a browser thing, I'm using Chrome.
I'm on Pale Moon and it renders fine for me even though the dimensions say it should be wide. Some weird auto-correction is happening or something.
I don't get it, it looks fine for me in both Chrome and on MPC HC, I'll admit I don't much about editing video but I've posted that webm a few times and no-one had said anything until now.
You fricked up the dimensions when making the webm so the file has one set of dimensions and the metadata has a different set of dimensions. Some browsers will read the metadata to correct it and some won't.
Anyway, it's all dumb because all the character models look off. You see Anne in artwork long before she joins the party.
I want to fix it so it looks fine for everyone, I should re-encode it anyhow to take advantage of the whole VP9 thing.
Everyone's character model looks terrible. Go by the 2D art.
This game's perfomance gets a bit bad when there's a lot of stuff going on right? I've got a decent PC (R5 2600 + GTX 1080) and on the busier maps whenever there's a lot of enemies and/or particles effects going on, my GPU usage, temperature and FPS all drop, there seems to be a bottleneck with the engine, this happens to everyone right?
Gimme one good reason why I can't climb this rock.
No shortcuts over the top allowed. You WILL aggro ze crabs.
Frick...
He does alright, he doesn't die easily thanks mostly to Life Drain.
your albus sure is squishy
Albus can become extremely tanky against ranged attacks thanks to headwind. It's a bit of a coom moment when crucha Skull Eater and his fire support gang is doing 1s and 0s against you. Melee is harder to deal with though, I guess you gotta rely on them not 1 shotting you and then regening it back with blood absorbing sword and/or life drain
just headwind or second wind set?
Second wind is kind of cool with enough rest but that's most of your possible defence slots so you'd be hard pressed to fit in magic shield, counterattack, impulse fields, etc. It's up to you. I'm running magic knight with second wind and the enough rest mastery set and it definitely feels like he's underperforming but he's dying less often than before. Those 1 damage hits ranged attacks do will trigger second wind so his turn pops back up real quick
FAT
FAAAAAAAT
If only Muscle Burst worked on wind drakis.
It will when I unlock Circle of Wind in another map or two.
Draki Queen with far too much HP: "I am growing stronger"
>almost 7k HP
That's a fat b***h.
This is about as high as I can get it, unless I somehow manage to fit more sets in with another board, plus 100 more HP from Trained Beast.
Not quite 7k, but close. Board coming up shortly.
Board. I didn't really try to optimise number of sets, so I could probably squeeze in a bit more HP if I devoted myself to it. It'd be hard to work around the HP boosting sets, though. Also this is in full memebuild right now: if I don't swap out Tough Spirit for Predator's Eye she has really annoying accuracy problems. Tough Spirit + Perfect Ego is another 60 HP I wouldn't have if I did that, though.
mine is like this - serviceable but dunno how to make her better
Part of the reason why I went for a memebuild on my queen is because I'd already given up on making her good. Wind ESP is the worst element, she doesn't have any spammable ranged attacks for Pincer Attack With Beast besides the 6-range charge which displaces her, and the scaling on her attacks is pretty low (somewhat offset by her god-tier crit multiplier).
I think if I did do a build with the intention of actually using her it would look a lot like yours: Crit, counterattack/forestallment and block shred.
>Wind ESP is the worst element,
I too hate dealing massive crits..
>I play on the easiest difficulty where 20% block is an abnormally tanky enemy
I don't, and I still like dealing 600% crits.
Oh, no , I see. Imagine getting filtered by high block.
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Pray tell, how does your Bianca crit high block enemies?
>I turned him into a penguin, funniest shit I've ever seen.
I'm glad you asked anon. She does it by being a walking meme.
Look on the bright side, anon. Your ineptitude is on page 10.
Im lvl 30, play on hard, just got to the annoying high block enemies, specially that white Tiger sword guy with 120% block.
Annoying as frick, but I got through him with my breakthrough albus and root from anne.
Now Im abusing block on my characters too, realized its way better than dodge cause you negate crits. I reckon the game will be comically easy once I get iron wall and pop magic armor in.
The reason I said that is because most machines have Windform and very high wind resistance, and a lot of enemies have Veteran/Massiveness to prevent stuns from wind-related effects which shuts down a decent number of wind masteries. Also, those masteries that grant Slowdown/Strong Slowdown pretty much only work with Albus' skills because so many beast attacks already inflict Bleed.
Contrasting with the other elemental types
>Water has bad masteries, but almost nothing resists it
>Lightning has pretty good masteries including non-Collision stun sources and machines are weak to it
>Fire has godlike masteries even though machines resist it
>Earth has numerous non-combat ways of gaining SP, good masteries and almost nothing resists it
>Spirit-aligned beasts have very powerful skills, excellent non-combat SP gain and some non-standard but very strong masteries
Wind is the most fun element, which automatically makes it the best.
Is there a reason to have a draki queen aside from the novelty of having it? I made a storm baron before realizing you could evolve them into royalty, and after I realized I started evolving a draki king
There's a secret mutant draki type you can only get by using one to hatch the eggs on 54v. That's their main reason to exist.
>secret mutant draki
are they stronk?
They're pretty much the same as dark drakis, but light-aligned. The biggest difference is that they have a 6-radius Revealed aura that also negates the penalties from dark/night/indoors. Slightly different scaling on their overload skill too, IIRC it's a little bit weaker.
Sion has a very poorly disguised crush on Irene
Concrete evidence that Irene is male.
So do I.
Everyone has a crush on irene.
Not villains.
He can have her
Irene is a dork.
DORK.
I really expected her superhero costume to be her with a shirt tied around her neck as a cape and a paper mask.
Those are meant to be goggles? I thought J* just had two black eyes.
That's a good thing.
>cape
I hope the animators know what they're getting themselves into. That's a lot of work for one skin.
I expect it'll only have minimal animation, like Heixing's coat.
This really highlights how masculine Irene's shoulder:hips ratio is.
A fricking rectangle.
You know I get that the game's been dropping Caper Mk 28s and ARs and Axes all game but they've really thrown me for a loop by having Renzy drop a named legendary two handed hammer that no one can use. I just thought Alissa was going to use it for some intense shaving.
I'm still not used to the boss Ranger enemies dropping unique pistols which Heixing can't use because for some reason he and Sanson are the only characters in the game that use submachine guns.
>lots of Gunman enemies use assault rifles
>the sniper Gunman enemies use sniper rifles
>every other Gunman enemy uses pistols
>every Ranger uses pistols except that one boss who has a sniper rifle because haha we put Cover Move on a sniper
>VHPD suppressors are Rangers with assault rifles
>Sanson has a submachine gun, except he's actually a Sweeper
My first playthrough's White Knight has 73 speed, which isn't amazing but it's pretty good by non-cheese Alisa standards, and faster than a lot of enemies.
Ranger uses pistols except that one boss who has a sniper rifle because haha we put Cover Move on a sniper
Nevermind, I imagined this. Must have just gotten confused by having rangers mixed with snipers in the towers on 54v.
>Not having at least 100 speed on everyone
smhfam
>ignore speed completely
>use Ray's ice fog to inflict Frostbite on my own units
>use Vigor Restoration to trigger Can't Wait Any More every turn
>barges into conversation
>"..."
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
Heixing is LITERALLY me
I like how every character in this game has a very specific type of autism.
New level 45 normal mission that came out today has some rogue Black Tigers to kill, along with Jeff and Flamecron.
Oh sweet, finally a way to get their info without killing yourself in that one Leton and Carter mission
>he doesnt know