This.
Same goes for people buying games by electronic arts or activision blizzard.
They are absolute shitholes of companies and they are insanely consumer unfriendly.
You deserve everything bad tha thappens to you if you gave them money. You were asking to be fricked.
Yes, Ubisoft made their single player games dependent on an online server and now they're shutting down said server rendering the games unplayable. What part of all that is not Ubisoft's fault?
Because unwinding the DRM from the game takes an amount of work and therefore money, but flipping the off switch takes almost no work and therefore almost no money.
2 years ago
Alessio
My point is that it would take a relatively negligible amount of money, compared to how much they're pissing everyone off with this move. It's another stain on the company image, and some people won't buy their future games due to this. Why are they so short sighted.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm sure the bean counters did the math and decided nobody gave a rat's ass enough to justify paying developer and QA salaries for it. Sure, it'll hurt their image, maybe even affect future sales in some small way, but they calculated it won't hurt their image more than $X would hurt their bottom line. And if anybody's got data about how being a shit company might affect future sales it'd be Ubisoft.
2 years ago
Anonymous
they could just download a crack and be done with it but they are a bunch of homosexuals.
Ubisoft wouldn't care. They get their paycheck from Timmy that keeps all new releases off Steam and they never put much effort into the pc business anyway
Come on now, that's a little rich. I like Tim. It's because he's a bit of a freak. Interesting guy, and in many ways at odds with the corporate status quo. But does he care? I doubt it, but he understands business, and especially public sentiment, given the uphill battle of getting EGS to sit alongside the big gigachad shadow of Steam. Unlike Ubisoft, he has yet to shit in his own backyard to this extent. He's done dumb shit, sure, like I said he's a bit of a freak. But not outright legalised theft, because that is what this is.
Literally Ubishit's fault. Steam has its fault but this is all on this piece of trash of company. I wish Vivendi succeeded its hostile take over and killed the company for good, selling all its game licenses to good companies instead.
Steam still allows you to download the binaries for all the games you purchased, even those delisted and removed from the store.
Ubisoft bricks your game by disabling the access to their DRM servers. Applying a crack to your steam copy will grant you access to the game.
this >B-BUT UBISOFT-
No. Steam is a shitty platform. You don't own your games. If Ubisoft can do it, other devs/publishers can do it too. >B-B-B-B-BUT
Stop.
It's not Ubisoft's fault. It's Steam's fault for allowing publishers and developers to disallow access to their games for people who already bought them. Valve should've added a clause that states that once a game is added to Steam it can never be removed.
How do you know that Steam is going to disallow or remove anything?
They'll still allow you to download whatever Ubisoft uploaded to their content servers, it just wont work anymore because it will ask you to log into UPlay
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BLAME GABERINO UBISOFT IS THE ONE SHUTTING DOWN THE GAME WITH THEIR THIRD PARTY DRM
that Valve allowed them to sell the game on Steam with
>lol we sold you a game that turns your PC into a nuclear bomb and blew up your entire city but its not our fault we said in the EULA we can't guarantee your safety 😉
>EULA
It is literally on the store page in a different bright color to specifically differentiate it. It's your fault for being moronic and buying DRM-filled games.
>buy product >a few years later the manufacturer says you can't use that anymore, buy new product
Can't wait for smart refrigerators and smart toasters to start hitting end of authorized usage
ubisoft should get sued to death over this honestly
sure people won't get their games back if ubisoft goes under but it'd be a nice big middle finger to those french homosexuals
that reminds me didn't ubisoft have a hostage situation or some shit a while ago? you'd think they'd be more cautious about pissing people off but I guess not
cars have been doing this shit for decades. anything with fuel injection/vvt etc. can and will decide to shit itself if the computer decides your time is up.
> He doesn't know.
Tranime homosexuals are always the most clueless. Anyway, the reason that will make sense to your peanut brain is called planned obsolescence. The funny thing is though that in his own, if colourful, way he is right. I'll even give you an example: marketing. We are at the point now where a lot of people think of marketing as reality and cannot even differentiate between the two. That is directly changing what reality even is. Weirdly, reality and quantumn states are closely intertwined from a science perspective. Case in point: viewing subatomic particles changes their behaviour. Now, all of this is because of generations of psychology and marketing research designed to figure out what makes us tick. But instead of being used for something useful, it's used against us to condition us to accept corporations as some kind of greater God. They are not. They are mere businessmen, not your friends. That shady mystery meat selling crack on a street corner? That's what they are, but at a far bigger scale. Meanwhile, people are literally fighting over which brand is best. Shitty timeline. It really is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
go back to redit
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll make you a deal. I'll go to reddit if it makes you feel better, if you frick off to Ganker and stop shitting up threads with your mental midget corpo-slurp take on things. Deal?
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which... would include you, then. Welcome to the Blue Oyster, fren.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You will literally never be a woman
2 years ago
Anonymous
Correct. That's because I am a male. So says my chromosomes. If that is something that is giving you trouble, maybe talk to a biologist. They will explain the difference. Ideally outside of California.
2 years ago
Anonymous
poster said that anything vvt/ fuel injected is designed to fail after a certain point, so they were asked for more info.
providing any proof or evidence the design was intentionally flawed such as details about what the intended mechanical failures are supposed to be, when the device is designed to fail, or possibly even stress tests by third parties showing these failures happening would be acceptable. trying to deflect by spewing buzzwords is not
p.s. anime imageboard stay mad homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>viewing subatomic particles changes their behaviour.
Not only you are a relentless schizo, but you have no idea of how quantum mechanics work
Happened to my galaxy S7, so now I just don't have a phone. My phone worked perfectly fine. One day, I just got a text from T-Mobile that told me they weren't supporting it anymore and that I had a month to buy a new phone. After that month, they bricked it. I just cancelled my service and never went back.
This already happened with Order of War: Challenge and nothing happened besides some journo articles. This is the future you choose by buying DRM'd cancer, and you will like it.
Stop buying games that use third-party launchers.
Valve doesn't do this shit with removed listings on Steam, stop putting faith in other companies to do the same.
>owned games
lie of ommission, you own a liscense wherein they are in their right to do this. >how do we stop this
Stop buying crappy games.
Yes games like Rayman are crappy now because of this.
Can we skip past the part where that statement takes you aback and get the part where you diversify your libraries, and liscense options as an end user.
>Stop buying crappy games.
Too hard for simple minded Ganker users >hurr I bought the thing that fricks my ass and my ass was fricked
Wow really? and you want me to do something about it? NO!
>Physical
That ship has sailed a decade ago, nowdays physical boxes have a steam key, or are straight up unplayable without the day 1 patch. >no gog
Having a gog installer stored is the closest shit you get to actually owning your product, whats wrong with that?
>That ship has sailed a decade ago
Then I will gladly pirate any digital only game with no weight on my heart knowing I would have paid if they sold it physically.
>day 1 patch
This meme needs to die, its si hugely overblown. The number of games that legit need to have a day 1 patch are limited to:
-Microsoft shit you cant even use without a day 1 update
-literally broken shit that cant be played and its your fault if you knowingly bought it(tony hawk)
99% of games are perfectly playable without "le day 1 patch", and this moronic bogeyman of not being able to play a game just cause its missing some bug fixes or something is probably never going to effect you, ever. The shit that does come out actually broken is rightfully mocked.
>lie of ommission, you own a liscense wherein they are in their right to do this.
no, they claim you own a license, but claiming something in a contract doesn't make it true, and courts have had mixed reactions to this kind of thing.
>what the frick, just googled this and it's no longer on the steam store'?
It hasn't been available for sale for a very long time, online servers are gone as well but there's a community workaround.
Meanwhile I will still be able to play Assassin's Creed Liberation HD thanks to backwards compatibility on my Series X. Yet you lot say consoles are worse for this.
Steam achievements suck though. You can unlock them using a third party tool. At least get an Xbox if you care about achievements. Can't be tampered with at all since Xbox One required online verification.
Doesn't matter if it's Ubisoft, something like this shouldn't take place. Steam should either give money back for buying this product or offer an alternative way of making it up, since it's through their platform.
I mean if you request a refund then itll probably go through even if you owned it ages ago. Steam usually gets lax with this kind of stuff when insane shit like this happens.
>Steam should either give money back for buying this product or offer an alternative way of making it up, since it's through their platform
if you bought the game through gamestop or epic, does that too mean they should refund me the money? just curious if the same rules apply to physical copies and little timmy
Steam is fricking based. Why would you buy games from GOG apart from porn games?
ubisoft should get sued to death over this honestly
sure people won't get their games back if ubisoft goes under but it'd be a nice big middle finger to those french homosexuals
Dude, even in France we fricking hate ubisoft. They're hated by their own.
Valve has zero legal grounds to demand Ubisoft do anything. Ubisoft has no legal obligation to keep servers online forever or provide offline workarounds. That's why every Ubisoft game on Steam has always had that giant red warning banner, you buy Ubisoft garbage at your own peril.
Steamgays are literally the tendies of pc
Watch for the next couple of day how steamBlacks will defend everything their plataform do because "gabe is le based fatman who rapes my wallet xD" memes that brainwashed zoomers
>Ubisoft disabling their games DLC and removing them from purchase and downloading from a storefront >Steamgays
Why are you obsessed with a storefront?
>Oh no, China!
Now you know how the rest of the world feels about the US. Same shit, just under different stripes. You are both aggressively expansionist, limit the freedoms of your people more and more every year, and money is your God, just like it is for the Chinese.
>GoG treats their customers as literal children who need to be protected from ever having the possibility of making a bad decision
Nice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>GoG isn't israeli enough to allowed third party devs to frick over their customers buying games on their store
ON NO, SO BAD!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>see giant red WARNING: israeliteBISOFT DRM banner on Steam >still clicks buy >NOOO WHY DID YOU GIVE ME THE CHOICE, YOU KNOW HOW WEAK WILLED I AM THIS IS YOUR FAULT VALVE
I remember steamie excuse like no gaben wouldn't do it and release their secret anti drm mode look now there is no anti drm mode homosexuals in the first place stop buying games from steam and ubisoft go pirate
gays who use steam are not true v gays they are the reddit pcmr gays who fell for the 2008 valve marketing meme hence the homosexual gaslighting responses in this thread
There's so many batshit devs fighting with users on the Steam boards.
If they could actually target accounts to remove their games from, it would happen constantly.
I'm surprised power tripping steam mods haven't banned the threads yet
The red flag is literally there in red. Don't buy Steam games with 3rd party DRM unless you are one of those who plays once and doesn't ever intend to replay.
Don't buy Ubisoft games.
At this point they aren't even worth pirating.
Hell, at this point I treat all game purchases as a donation, and I only donate to companies I like.
If I don't like how your business is run, I don't care how good your game is, I'm not paying for it.
Unless you're giving me a physical item that can never be taken from me by corporate bullshit, my money is a fricking donation, and I WILL withhold it at my discretion.
Define "they." If you mean Ubisoft, they don't care. If you mean Valve, they cannot do shit. Valve cannot remove DRM from games they don't own.
>Puttin a clickbait journo article in your collage to purposely mislead people
The same thing happened to DS1 when they put out that shitty remaster but people weren't getting assblasted and clickbaiting because it was being replaced and not completely killed from the store.
Check the Steam pages from the soon-to-be-delisted games.
>Puttin a clickbait journo article in your collage to purposely mislead people
The same thing happened to DS1 when they put out that shitty remaster but people weren't getting assblasted and clickbaiting because it was being replaced and not completely killed from the store.
But you'll still have it if you have it installed. Granted idk why you would even want to play ubishit let alone old ubishit from the beginning of their downfall.
No, anon. Even if you have the dlc installed you will not be able to access it anymore. Accessing Ubisoft DLC for any game released since 2013 requires a Ubisoft Services network check-in to unlock the content.
That network check in is being permanently disabled for every game on this list:
if I was an AAA company I'd be so pissed at ubisoft
imagine you're trying to sell your DLC bullshit and here you have ubisoft giving ammunition to gamers to say 'look don't buy dlc, don't even buy these games because the company can just take them away'
Even if they completely shut down the access to the original DS1 (which they didn't) they'd at least have a case with the game still being available through the remaster.
imagine playing any UbiSoft game after Assassins Creed 1. Imagine buying them after that one game that was just as broken as Cyberpunk. Even after this, I bet you morons will still buy UbiSoft games.
>That's not how it works.
it's how software has worked for fricking decades, the only ones who may care are copyright trolls, and if all they can be bothered to do is send DMCA i can file them away with the shit from my butthole
It's ancient software artifact that no longer can be bought. It should be freely available as an artifact of human civilization. And no, authors don't get a say in what gets into museums.
Don't buy always online garbage in the first place. If the game requires a constant internet connection it WILL die in the future. Don't expect publishers - especially Ubishit - to patch their games. They don't care.
it's worse than that, shit that never had an online component like far cry 3 dlc is getting pulled
a company can say 'hey this shit you bought requires some online check now and btw we're not going to support this dlc anymore, ty for your money'
Because Ubisoft is exceptionally moronic and they use those servers to also do the DLC-authentications.
This is just moronic from a business perspective. >hmm, should we maybe patch our games and let people verify dlc ownership through Steam or uplay directly? >Nah
they're truly and awful company, you'd think a company that makes so much money off microtransactions would try to inspire confidence in preserving people's purchases
That's ok. This is what class action lawsuits are for. They can eat a class action lawsuit and then pay a few tens of millions out to people who bought the game and then also get forced to disable the DRM checks in the game so people can continue playing what they purchased.
This is what lawsuits are for.
If you own this game and want some free money, call up a lawyer.
>You will own nothing
I have no problem with this, private ownership is nothing but a capitalist agenda. >But we can take away the things you have paid to use and not return your investment
That's just theft, one is not synonymous with the other. If Ubishit was disabling my owned games and then giving me my money back, there's no issue.
>'you don't own this, you just lease it from us' >'ok now that you are done with it we are taking it back and returning the money you used to get it' >theft
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
>I have no problem with this, private ownership is nothing but a capitalist agenda.
lmao, this is solid bait, if it isn't your very existence is the funniest joke ive heard all month.
I am sure that they secured themselves legally with some israeli phrases in the terms of use that nobody reads, but this is terrible and they should be held accountable. Imagine spending, over the years hundreds of dollars/euros on games, and even if you harp about it,Ubisoft has a lot of aaa games.
And now it's just taken away just like that. Like what the frick.
Imagine buying a screwdriver and putting it in your shed and now the butthole you bought it from comes and takes it away because he felt like it. Frick them.
This. If there is not a legal requirement, there absolutely should be, as this essentially falls under 'This is no longer the product I bought'. You can't make someone pay 30$ for a thing, but then completely change that thing over time so it is no longer recognizable as the thing that was originally bought. People should have the completely fair argument that they paid 30$ to rent/lease/whatever this product on steam, not ubishit's launcher, and if it is no longer available on steam, then ubishit is required legally to return their money.
>America ruled that class action lawsuits cannot be brought against video games as it would be unfair to games
Slave to a broken order, dare you look upon the truth?
>ping www.gaydrmserver.co.uk >if server = on : then game start=yes >if server = kill : then game start=no
changed to >ping www.gaydrmserver.co.uk >if server = on : then game start=yes >if server = kill : then game start=also yes
very easy fix
Wrong shitposter-kun.
Steams EULA says that you BUY a LICENSE. That isn't rental.
You own "the right" to play that game through the use of Steam. A "right" they can't simply take away from you just like someone can't just steal your physical copies without repercussion. The only realistic scenario in which Steam can "take away" your games is Steam itself shutting down for good. Which is very unlikely considering Steams own marketshare.
You "buy" a license that is revocable at any time for any reason. It's an extended rental. You don't own it and you don't have the right to play it forever. If they say "no more", then there's nothing you can do about it.
>EU citizens are entitled to refunds >Ubisoft says no >if you are smart and keep insisting on a refund they will give it to you
Automatic refunds only happen if some kind of outrage happens. Individual cases outside of that usually result into you fighting with their customer service until you threaten legal actions and they realize "oh shit this guy knows what he is talking about"
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's actually this. I don't care for the Ubishit game in the first place (and I never owned it either), but if I did I would be wholly confident that I would, at the very least, get my money back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except you don't know what you're talking about. Companies don't have an obligation to keep servers going on forever, if that were the case MMOs wouldn't exist. At most, if you bought the game like a week before it got pulled you might have a case, everyone else is just gonna get laughed out of court in any country.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only in case of games which actually require online in order to function.
Games like Driver or FarCry could easily get patched to ensure they run basicly forever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
not just ubisoft, pretty much every single north american company will stay quiet when they owe a european compensation, i had the same issue when i took a flight and it was delayed due to their issue, they didn't give the americans anything but i was entitled to compensation, had to chase them up for almost 6 months to get my cheque
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ubisoft is french though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
sorry my point was that north americans aren't protected by the same laws, so companies will stay quiet until europeans contact them directly
2 years ago
Anonymous
Happend to my brother with American Airlines. They refused until he reminded them that he is german. Took them over 2 months to issue the refund.
And this is why you start a class action lawsuit against the company for doing this
Like this is about as slamdunk as its going to get. If you bought this game there's no reason you shouldn't be doing the following:
1. Contacting ubisoft customers support and demanding a refund
2. Threatening to sue them if they don't refund you
3. Calling a lawyer and starting either a small claims or class action lawsuit against ubisoft, depending on how much time and money you have
The decision on whether ubisoft can get away with it or not is something decided in the court battle, it is not something pre-decided before it even starts like the corporate shills want you to believe.
Reminder that its legal to steal anything under 1000 dollars in San Francisco. Just walk into the ubisoft hq and help yourself to some of their stuff. They take what you paid for; you take what they paid for. Just don't go over $999.
You picked the wrong examples for your shitpost.
Far Cry and the other Ubisoft games on Epic Game Store will also stop working.
It doesn't matter if you got the games through Steam, EGS or Uplay.
frick you discordsisters and your moronic campaigns ruining this fricking website with misinformation.
its simply an always-online game thats getting discontinued like a dead mmo. I agree thats dogshit practice but that isnt on steam in any way shape or form. this is the 20th thread about this in 24 hours. kys.
Nice i can't wait for steamdrones somehow defend this while if it was epic they would be spamming he catalog with chink threads despite steam being bigger in china than in USA itself.
ass greed 1 and 2 are still available because they were always hosted on the steam servers
ubishit never hosted the other games on the steam servers
if ubishit actually cared for their customers they'd send their shit to the steam servers so that people could still play the games they purchased
nice try ebinshill
You people switched to buying digital games... you get what you fricking deserve. I have no sympathy for you. Be sure to buy the remaster next year, or the cloud version, or your episodic season passes, homosexual. People like you ruined gaming forever. Get fricked.
You can't play your physical copies of said removed games either anymore you moron, because the games can only be played when you are connected to the Ubisoft servers, which they are taking down for these games.
I have never bought a ubisoft game in my entire life, so you supported this bullshit more than I did because Brotherhood already had their Uplay DRM garbage. It started with AC2 I believe or maybe even earlier. So even if you bought it physically, you supported those exact practices that require a constant online verification from their servers that you now complain about.
I am pretty sure that you can't install AC2 from a physical copy on a new PC without an internet connection and just play it. Unless they have since removed their original DRM for that game. I distinctly remember when AC2 got cracked, it was a big deal because it had at the time a very intricate anti-piracy DRM that required a periodical authentification from the Ubisoft servers.
AC1, 2, and Brotherhood didn't require you to be online to play them and I wouldn't have bought them if they had. So, no, I didn't support this moronic shit.
Physical copies of these games are affected by this exact same problem. Regardless of whether you installed the game from your physical DVD or from a digital download, you need to connect to the Ubisoft servers in order to play it, which they are taking down for these particular older games. Why are some posters on Ganker literally too stupid to understand this extremely easy to understand fact?
Every version of these games that connects to ubisoft servers, PC or console, is fricked.
Having a plastic box on your shelf does not save you.
If anything, people will patch/crack (and already have) the PC versions of these games, so you are stickily worth off "owning" the "physical" console version of these games.
valve needs to put their foot down and start banning third party clients. no uplay, no origin, nothing. these companies need steam more than steam needs them.
But you didn't buy your games on Steam.
You bought a license from Mr. Gabe that says you can use those games for the time being (subject for termination for any reason they want)
That's the case for any game that requires you to be online and connected to a server in order to play. So pretty much all Blizzard games, all modern Ubisoft games, a majority of EA games you don't own even if you bought a physical copy.
>You signed the ToS, idiot
Can you show me a signature?
How many overly complicated legal documents survive interaction with the courtroom? (Hint: none)
I'm not a contract lawyer, but have studied Law and in doing so have a general idea.
ToS has never been legally binding and that excuse wouldn't hold up in court. Especially if it contravenes actual consumer protection laws already on the books.
A contract is immediately voided regardless of whether it is agreed upon by both parties if it requires either party to break the law in either the formation or execution of said contract.
>leftist company who's games are about how classically liberal Christian values are the greatest blight on humanity >fail to treat economic partners with basic human decency, just like the communists that they worship
Checks out.
>review bombing a game that will disappear from steam in a few days
Why aren't people leaving negative reviews on newer Ubisoft games instead? they're gonna disappear in a few years as well
They are disabling that your game will work because they are shutting down your servers.
You'll still be able to download it, it just wont work without UPlay servers.
There's no lawsuit here. I'm sure the TOS clearly states that the game is dependent on a central authentification server and will only run while that server is online, do you agree to the risk, yada yada. This isn't a recent practice, companies have gotten good at killing games.
It doesn't matter what ubisoft tries to say in whatever Terms of Service or anything else you fricking moron.
Courts are not full of idiots like you who shrug and go "well you read a contract that says its ok for him to murder you and didn't say no, so its ok to murder you". Ubisoft has to show that they are not trying to scam and frick over their customers. Ubisoft will have to show that they are not trying to scam and frick over their investors. Ubisoft will have to show that removing the DRM is impossible and unavoidable and that's why it's ok to deny the customers access to the product they purchased.
Courts are not some place where the law just automatically goes the way a corporation wants just because you're a moron too fricking stupid to understand how the law works
Well, start your lawsuit then. I'm sure decades of EA and Ubi pulling the same shit, MMOs dying due to the same shit, and nothing happening to any of the companies involved just means that nobody ever tried suing them.
>Courts are not some place where the law just automatically goes the way a corporation wants
It kind of is if corporation drags things out as long as possible and you are forced to just quietly give up, because you ran out of money ages ago.
Mostly. It's why companies like the idea of subscriptions so much in the first place. They want control and you don't want to deal with customers who actually own the products they bought.
GFWL is fricking dead and yet i can still play Fable 3 through Steam. Only Ubisoft is moronic enough to force always-online drm shit on their singleplayer games.
Assassin's Creed and Far Cry are two of their biggest franchises and now parts of them become unplayable through sheer incompetence. Not even EA are this moronic and EA never gave a shit about their older titles.
If enough people could be arsed to get mad about this Ubisoft would quickly patch their games to verify DLC and ownership through either Steam or Ubisoft Connect. Because the alternative would be thousands of people asking or refunds which would end up costing them way too much - making patching the games cheaper,
But that won't happen because its 2022 and nobody gives a frick about Driver San Francisco - a game that has been unavailable for purchase for nearly a decade, a shitty PS Vita Asscreed game and some Far Cry DLC
I'm surprised he didn't post anything about this on twitter. He usually comments on topics like this.
Though it will most likely be a topic for the next video chat
Ubisoft would need to convince the judges that this is justified. >high upkeep >patching taking too much effort >technical difficulties due to outdated hard/software
Could be fun to watch
>patch to make game not call home whenever you start it >too much effort
I was going to say something sarcastic, but then I realized that this may very well be too much for a current year vidya company.
There's no lawsuit here. I'm sure the TOS clearly states that the game is dependent on a central authentification server and will only run while that server is online, do you agree to the risk, yada yada. This isn't a recent practice, companies have gotten good at killing games.
Digital goods laws have evolved quite a bit since GFWL was a thing.
This is definitely not an easy case for Ubi if someone with competent lawyers chooses to sue in some countries.
Black person, EA has been doing this shit for probably decades at this point. There are physical EA games out there that no longer work because they turned off the servers. Sometimes the community cares enough to crack or reverse-engineer the server to allow singleplayer, but that's not always the case.
Point is, this isn't news. Games that rely on a central server have always been a scam and WILL die, and there's nothing you can do about it. Don't buy shit with server-side DRM.
>Don't buy shit with server-side DRM.
just to be save, how can I decipher if it is server-sided? I never buy Ubishit or EA games so I think I'm pretty save
I'm convinced vidya will at some point crash and burn and there will be an entire decade where we'll all have to just play older games, kinda like when cars in the 70s were released being SLOWER than the last decade because of fuel efficiency standards.
Never ever. The industry is way too huge to crash. At worst it'll shift focus, like TV and print media are doing. But outright crash? Not gonna happen unless something drastic happens to the world.
Why does Valve allow devs that sell games on their platform to disable the games there after you buy them?
What's the point of buying games on Steam when it can be removed any day?
Steam still obliges to their part. You will always be allowed to download the game binaries you purchased.This is happening because the game you purchased runs 3rd party DRM..
Thats why you have a big ass disclaimer when buying games with third party DRM. Don't buy games with third party DRM.
A real world corresponding situation would be whining at walmart because they used to sell HP printers that are now discontinued and whose ink toners are not produced anymore.
>This is happening because the game you purchased runs 3rd party DRM..
Then don't fricking allow game that forces you to run a 3rd party DRM, this entire situation is because Valve is greedy and has zero standards or control with their store.
Heck devs can whenever they want just instantly remove your game from your library without even having to contact Valve at first, they can do this for no reason at all.
Revoking licenses bought with fraudolent means is not Steam TOS, it's the law.
You can't blame Ford if the police takes away a stolen car you bought.
Now show me a game that got removed after being legally acquired trugh the Steam store
2 years ago
Anonymous
>bought with fraudolent means >https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/
It was humblebundle anon and the devs THEMSELVES said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done and they said they received their money from the bundle.
You are fricking moronic, I just proved your wrong, the devs themselves said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done.
The fact remains that devs on Steam can whenever they want remove your games from your account without any reason
> Let me make this clear, this is my fault and my fault alone. I was misinformed and I made a really stupid decision. If you are angry, your anger is justified. I won't ask you to take down your negative reviews or angry messages. It's my fault, so I won't blame anyone for getting angry at me. >Also, in regard to Bundle Stars, they have paid me. This whole thing has nothing to do with them, and it was all a mistake on my end.
How are you going to goalpost your skin away from this one?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The devs were also who flagged their batch of keys as fraudulent, you moron.
It doesn't just happen on its own.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The devs were also who flagged their batch of keys as fraudulent, you moron.
The dev said thathe the money from the keys and it was entirely their fault, are you fricking going to argue now that he is lying and nothing I matter or he says matter because you are in the right anyways?
An anti fraud tool was misused and then everything got rolled back, you sure showed me
Why did you ignore that you said first that games can't just get removed from your account by the devs when this now was proven to be a total lie?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why did you ignore that you said first that games can't just get removed from your account by the devs when this now was proven to be a total lie?
because if the action was not rolled back the customers could've whined to Humble bundle, HB wuold then issue refunds and go nuclear on the dev ass. This was a lawsuit about to happen.
Developers can't remove CD keys (emphasis on the key part, this can't happen if you buy games from the store) unless they claim fraud, and if no fraud happened, they are the ones braking the TOS, and Steam would intervine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lying about what? The dev literally says that fricking with the keys from the batch that he gave to the re-seller was his own fault.
Please work on you reading comprehension.
And everyone already knows Steam can modify your account, I don't understand why you think you've uncovered some huge shocking truth here.
They have literally 0 reason to randomly do so themselves (which is apparently what you believe commonly happens) because of legal and PR repercussions.
As evident from this thread, people can't even figure out that Ubisoft is to blame for killing their own games.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why did you ignore that you said first that games can't just get removed from your account by the devs when this now was proven to be a total lie?
because if the action was not rolled back the customers could've whined to Humble bundle, HB wuold then issue refunds and go nuclear on the dev ass. This was a lawsuit about to happen.
Developers can't remove CD keys (emphasis on the key part, this can't happen if you buy games from the store) unless they claim fraud, and if no fraud happened, they are the ones braking the TOS, and Steam would intervine.
THE FIRST POST was claimed that devs could not remove games from your library, I proved you wrong and now you are doing the most insane goalposting that has nothing to do with it.
What you are saying has nothing to do with the dicusssion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay dude.
If you include criminal fraud, devs can "remove" games from your account.
Yes.
The only way to fix this is to remove the option for devs to generate keys for their games, so now people can only purchase games through Steam directly and nowhere else.
Alright.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If you include criminal fraud, devs can "remove" games from your account.
Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from steam without breaking the law.
Have you forgotten that you don't own your games on Steam?
And stop with the goalposting, I proved your first statement wrong, just take the L man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from steam without breaking the law.
nice wordplay, moron. Let me fix that for you: >Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from your steam LIBRARY without breaking the law.
That's called consumer protection rights. look into it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>devs that sell games on their platform to disable the games there after you buy them?
except in your example the game wasnt bought on that platform
and you're also ignoring the part that the dev rolled back their frickup because if they didnt they would've been sued into the floor. IE if they actually had followed through with your doomsday prediction, the law would've crashed down on them and put the game back, making it a moot point
this isnt goalpost shifting, this is just you being moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You claim stabbing is illegal yet i got stabbed the other day, checkmate atheists
Ok, lemme rephrase my first statement:
Save for fraudolent purchases and severe misuse of the key system, developers have no means of removing games from your library.
>Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from steam without breaking the law.
nice wordplay, moron. Let me fix that for you: >Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from your steam LIBRARY without breaking the law.
That's called consumer protection rights. look into it.
Why are you even trying to goalpost still? I proved you wrong and you even admit it.
All you do know is speculate on theoretical situations that MIGHT happen.
I showed you for a fact that devs can remove any games at any times from your library and now you try and argue "b-but they could have sued them"(no they couldn't because you don't own anything on steam) and do pure arbitrary speculations about stuff that never happened.
Just take the L man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no they couldn't because you don't own anything on steam
you're selling this meme real fricking hard, bro. Sorry but it doesnt work like that.
Delisted games are still playable if you have them.in your library
devs fricking with your library is punishable by law, which is why they cant. And if they do try it'll end badly for them, and you'll have the game back in your library >Why are you even trying to goalpost still? >All you do know is speculate on theoretical situations that MIGHT happen.
my thoughts exactly. You seem obsessed with the idea that devs can just take games away from your library and walk away scot free. Wanna nail those goalposts down first before acvusing others of moving them, moron?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>devs fricking with your library is punishable by law, which is why they cant. And if they do try it'll end badly for them, and you'll have the game back in your library
No it's not, you don't own the game. How many times do I have to tell you, moron?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No it's not
the EU says yes, moron. Why are you trying so hard to defend this flawed example? If devs can get away with doing something like this surely you would have dozens more that are more prudent to your argument for you to talk about
2 years ago
Anonymous
> If devs can get away with doing something like this surely you would have dozens more that are more prudent to your argument for you to talk about
Why would devs randomly delete games from your library? You don't own the game and you can do jackshit if they remove it from your account. Because YOU DO NOT OWN IT.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You don't own the game and you can do jackshit if they remove it from your account. Because YOU DO NOT OWN IT.
the eu says otherwise. screaming the same thing over and over like a deranged troony wont change that fact
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the eu says otherwise
No it doesn't, why are you making shit up?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No it doesn't
yes it does. its why eu made steam and all digital storefronts kneel. Its why we can refund games and soon, resell them.
This is also a fact.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's so many batshit devs fighting with users on the Steam boards.
If they could actually target accounts to remove their games from, it would happen constantly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If they could actually target accounts to remove their games from, it would happen constantly.
We know of devs who would want nothing more in the world than to be able to do that but they can't so instead they had to hard code a blacklisting of the Steam account into the game's executable itself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It quite literally against the law in most places in the world, quite possibly in the US as well. While it is true that you don't "own" the game; by purchasing the game you are entering a contract where they provide access in exchange for your money. If they are no longer able to provide access, the contract is broken and you are entitled to a full refund.
Funnily enough, this also applies to being banned as well; as arbitrarily revoking access triggers the same cause of action. You just won't find anyone willing to spend the thousands of dollars (hiring lawyers, court fees etc.) to at best gain a ~$60 refund for saying gamer words.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You seem very obsessed with winning your moronic slapfight but sadly the only example you have is a dev admitting that he fricked up, abused the system and corrected his mistake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You claim stabbing is illegal yet i got stabbed the other day, checkmate atheists
Ok, lemme rephrase my first statement:
Save for fraudolent purchases and severe misuse of the key system, developers have no means of removing games from your library.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Developers have no means of removing a game from your library period. All they can do is ask Valve to do it. Valve will do it. They will not verify whether the devs are in the right or anything. When the request is made they'll just carry it through. Valve just says "Make sure you REALLY want to revoke access when you ask us to revoke access because we will just do it no questions asked and there's no undoing it."
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are you making up lies?
>bought with fraudolent means >https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/
It was humblebundle anon and the devs THEMSELVES said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done and they said they received their money from the bundle.
You are fricking moronic, I just proved your wrong, the devs themselves said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done.
The fact remains that devs on Steam can whenever they want remove your games from your account without any reason
> Let me make this clear, this is my fault and my fault alone. I was misinformed and I made a really stupid decision. If you are angry, your anger is justified. I won't ask you to take down your negative reviews or angry messages. It's my fault, so I won't blame anyone for getting angry at me. >Also, in regard to Bundle Stars, they have paid me. This whole thing has nothing to do with them, and it was all a mistake on my end.
How are you going to goalpost your skin away from this one?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Valve provides an interface for devs to request a key be revoked. The dev has to the know the key they want to revoke. Devs can't just go into user accounts and take games away from them or anything like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As far as I know, they can only revoke the entire batch they generated.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope singular keys can be revoked
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's exactly what he did...
2 years ago
Anonymous
Developers are not admin users of Steam or anything. They cannot just go around fiddling with Steam accounts. They can revoke keys. That's it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you buy stolen keys, you should be allowed to keep the game
Are you Russian, by any chance?
2 years ago
Anonymous
An anti fraud tool was misused and then everything got rolled back, you sure showed me
2 years ago
Anonymous
I remembered when that happened. I logged into steam and it gave me a notice going "hey frick you" and the game disappeared from my library.
The developers had the galls to ask for you to email them with private info to get another key.
Do you not know this is affecting EGS as well? It's literally all on ubisoft why are you still acting like this is all about steam? it's a bit of a much grander issue with digital ownership.
Can you say some words for the people that bought the "physical" console version of these games, that will also no longer work?
I'm curious who is at fault there.
I have so many "removed" games in my account that I can tell you that it probably wont even be removed.
They will just de-list it from the store and wont even bother to update it to not download UPlay.
Instead, it will just download all the files and UPlay and you wont be able to log into UPlay
>"buying" games on Steam
why would you ever do that? I can think of maybe 2 titles the last decade that I would be forced to get on Steam thanks to their shitty DRM, otherwise why would you ever do this?
>Ctrl + racism >no results
THEY ARE TAKING DOWN A GAME WITH YASS QUEEN... SOMETHING I DONT KNOW I DONT PLAY VIDEOGAMES.. THOSE RACIST NATZEE PERPETUATING MUH SOGGY KNEE...
You stupid fricks have it served and not using it.
>'dude just vote with your wallet lmao' >Companies continue pumping out garbage, continue making gorillions of dollars, continue doing anti-consumer shit like this
Voting with your wallet doesn't work when 75% of the world is subhuman.
>buy car from car salesman >car doesn't work anymore >go to salesman and ask him to fix it >lol no the manufacturer disabled it. Though luck boy, your money is mine
lmao I love how all the ubishills are desperately trying to pin this on steam when all of this could have easily been solved if they just removed the online drm.
You ain't fooling anyone when ther have been loads of delisted games that still work on people's accounts.
Stop acting like cowardly parasites who only b***h, act like adults who participate in society and sue them. Also make organized boycotts with protests both irl and social media, and don't stop until laws are made to protect your rights.
lol gamers are not going to do any of that shit. If there's one thing the video game industry has learned it's that gamers will kick and scream and whine like fricking babies but never take any meaningful action.
>buy physical cd >lmao just kidding bro get fricked still relies on online services
Man I havent owned a console since the PS1. When has this always been the case?
At one point, console games basically just turned into CD you have to put into your console to allow it to download the rest of the game from the net, especially with the amount of day1 patches that we get now.
Trying to play on consoles without access to the net is extremely foolish at this point, except maybe Nintendo, but they've also started relying on huge post-release patches.
I don't think it affects single player. It was optional to link to uplay and some people used their 360/PS3 offline. Ubisoft will shut down the online meaning certain achievements will no longer be possible after September and no more multiplayer (removed from the remasters).
The majority of MILLIONS of gamers buy their games digitally so I fricking doubt they'll just take away our games like you guys are trying to portray. Gamers aren't total sheep's who'll do nothing if such a scenario were to happen. This case is Ubisoft being the shitty company we've known it to be for a decade now.
GOG? The company that caved in to Chinese pressure to remove Devotion, and the developers who lied and scammed consumers with CP77? No fricking thanks lol
It's really interesting if and when this kind of stuff starts happening more. Ubisoft's titles are relatively popular, so this will gain some infamy already. Because if a lot of games that people think they own (even though they're just renting licenses) suddenly start disappearing, it will disenfranchise the common consoomer.
Whether that leads to a riot or a total submission through mental gymnastics remains to be seen. I'm betting on the latter. Just buy the games when they're new bro! Who wants to play something a second time anyway?
If EU court gets involved and goes after Ubisoft, I can see valve scrambling to instantly add in a much needed clause that forces devs to make the game at leasy playable during delisting. Like what they did when games with longstanding steam pages would not release because epic moneyhatted them.
It's really not the first time servers for something were shut down and the people were told to frick off and cry about it.
First time for a lot of IRL newbies maybe but I've seen it before.
Nothing will really be done about it. If you are extremely lucky you'll be able to file for a refund somewhere in a few years, but don't count on it.
I stopped with ubisoft long ago after my email got hacked and I had to delete that email.
Unfortunately my ubisoft acc (dont even remember making one since i dont really play their shit games) was linked to that. Had a few ubisoft games mainly battlefield games but wanted to give those a play again as it had been years.
Couldn’t play the game because the ubisoft server wanted you to update your pw for safety reasons since it had been years of logging in.
No way to bypass this and since the email associated with that ubi acc was gone. Literally no way to play any of those games i had paid full price for.
No way to sign out and start a new acc. You can make a new ubi acc but there was no way to log out of the old acc through the game. Forever locked in.
Reached out to support and i kid you not in order to get these accs off of my games and console they asked for my:
Home address
Ip Address
Any other emails i might have used
My age and DOB
and the absolute number one thing that i thought was absolutely insane was that they asked for my social security number
Yes this was really ubisoft official support. Not some pajeets in bangladesh
All of that and they still never fixed the problem. Games are locked to this day. That was like 2 years ago but i will never buy a piece of shit ubisoft title again. This just confirms how much of massive fricking israelites these rats are. Adding services like that to games (always online) shit is an immediate red flag and you should never pay for those
Feels good to have never gotten into Rayman or Prince of Persia back when they were alive and kicking and therefore have no worldly attachment to Ubisoft or anything they've ever made in their entire run as a company.
I stopped with ubisoft long ago after my email got hacked and I had to delete that email.
Unfortunately my ubisoft acc (dont even remember making one since i dont really play their shit games) was linked to that. Had a few ubisoft games mainly battlefield games but wanted to give those a play again as it had been years.
Couldn’t play the game because the ubisoft server wanted you to update your pw for safety reasons since it had been years of logging in.
No way to bypass this and since the email associated with that ubi acc was gone. Literally no way to play any of those games i had paid full price for.
No way to sign out and start a new acc. You can make a new ubi acc but there was no way to log out of the old acc through the game. Forever locked in.
Reached out to support and i kid you not in order to get these accs off of my games and console they asked for my:
Home address
Ip Address
Any other emails i might have used
My age and DOB
and the absolute number one thing that i thought was absolutely insane was that they asked for my social security number
Yes this was really ubisoft official support. Not some pajeets in bangladesh
All of that and they still never fixed the problem. Games are locked to this day. That was like 2 years ago but i will never buy a piece of shit ubisoft title again. This just confirms how much of massive fricking israelites these rats are. Adding services like that to games (always online) shit is an immediate red flag and you should never pay for those
>Stop Nintendo first, they did it all of this and worse things ten times over.
If it wasn't any more obvious that the people with a vendetta for steam are the same people with a vendetta for Nintendo.
>teehee sorry goy you're not entitled to the game, you should've read our 8276499562859 billion pages term of use, no backsies >... >O-OY VEY, MOISHE WHY ARE OUR SALES DROPPING????
What's their endgame with this?
Leftists believe that the establishment dictates what average people (who are obviously dumber than they are) do with their time and money. It's outside of their world view that a company that leaves its footprint on every street corner could commit suicide or become an irrelevant shell of its former self by not spending their money correctly, in spite of countless examples of exactly that. How many Sears do you see around these days? K-Marts? Pan Am flights? Sega consoles?
I'm not dumb enough to buy ubishit so this doesn't affect me, but it does set a dangerous precedent. >How do we stop them?
Try a class action lawsuit. Complaining on the internet does nothing.
not that guy but yeah, pretty much.
the good jndies are definitely worth paying for and while nintendo cant be trusted, it can be emulated
the main point is that you should stop wasting your money on entertainment. entertainment is always free, and if you fall for the paypig trap, then you should rethink your life.
You can pirate sure, but it's inherently unsustainable because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures
good thing AAA arent putting out new ventures in the first place
this is also part of that "vote with hour wallet" thing
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You can pirate sure, but it's inherently unsustainable because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures.
Good. My deepest desire is for all AAA gaming corporations to die and never make a comeback. They are the cancer of entertainment, and nobody would shed a single tear if they were gone forever. >h-hey, remember MTX, season passes and booster packs?
No. Nobody would remember them fondly. People would spit on their graves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a good thing. Let the abusive AAA industry crash. As if that would ever happen, but a man can dream.
the main point is that you should stop wasting your money on entertainment. entertainment is always free, and if you fall for the paypig trap, then you should rethink your life.
simple, there is no stopping them
(you) will never own your games anymore: piracy got ganked and nuked, and now the only one that can pirate denuvo is a deluded psycho who wants ten times the price to pirate it
now corpos can do whatever they want. you own nothing, now be unhappy about it or do something
The complete inability of Gankerermin to understand what principles are is both worrying and funny as hell. It's like the human waste browsing this shithole has some brain defect where all thought is terminated and it's running completely of hatred and spite.
>paying money for digital games
How much of a moron to you have to be to do this? Either buy physical or pirate. Buying digital is the worst of both worlds
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE AWAY SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER MINE NOOOO
I honestly thought when shit like this would happen people would like actually start using their brains, but sadly it's gotten worse
I'm not playing their games tho. I'm simply pointing out that little rats like you are part of the problem. >if you all could just shut up and never complain!
lmao
what whiny, little bootlickers have become
You think you're achieving something by complaining about people complaining here?
I say, let the people complain to their hearts content. Let it wash over all online services, let it reach school and workplaces. Let them all get mad.
You on the other hand are content with licking the boot like a good little rat. Your opinion about people complaining? It's worthless defeatist trash.
don't buy digital games in the first place?
AAA companies hate your entire existence and only see you as living wallets, if you have to play a new game just pirate it instead
>but it's not gamestops and epics fault?
Is always their fault, is amusing seeing one of the few times where is also steam's fault and you see steamdrones rushing to defend their corporation
Ah, so it's everyone's fault but the one who did it, Ubisoft? Interesting opinion, sadly, it's completely worthless in light of your personal steam vendetta.
Remember when Ubisoft sat on Scott Pilgrim for 12 or so years without releasing to PC, then finally released it as an Epic/Ubisofot exclusive and couldn't figure out why its sales were so shit?
Nah in their EULA they say they can do whatever they want at any time and that all you buy is a temporary license to play their games as long as they feel like it.
I think it's hilarious that game companies still think it's their product after you purchase their game. Sorry but once there is a transaction of cash it becomes my property
This only applies to online services because servers, no matter what game it is, will inevitably shut down at some point. Preventing you from accessing the licensed material you paid for it illegal, that's why other companies like Adobe don't do it.
You can still play it, but have to use Ubisoft's launcher directly. When you buy a game from Ubisoft on Steam, it's tied to your Ubisoft account. It's registered there. They know you own it. Just like dozens of other publishers that require you to have an account registered with them to play the game on Steam.
This isn't nearly as horrifying as people are making it out to be. Just inconvenient. Pic related. All of these were bought on Steam.
when you launch a ubishit game on steam, it loads the ubishit launcher anyway. like rockstar and calypso. all this does is make it so the game can't be updated on steam. you can add a shortcut to steam manually if your hellbent on launching it from there
There is no way that shit just slides without backfiring. It's starting to make A LOT of noise. They will get slapped in the face one way or another. Most probably EU will act up.
inb4 cope
don't fall for all the bullshit click-bait headlines. you're not going to lose your fricking game. you just have to use the ubisoft launcher instead. which steam boots up anyway when you launch from steam.
When companies start pulling this shit, the only thing I want to do is start pirating. Steam is tolerated in part because it’s a monopoly—all your shit is in one place—but also because it lets you do things like delete your shit and then redownload it easily, facilitate modding via Steam Workshop, make multiplayer a bit easier with the overlay, provides user reviews, standardized refund system, and gives you another option for messaging (as well as a bunch of other features like tags, steam groups, screenshots, badges, achievements, trading cards, steam sharing, big picture, market place, etc., that may not always be used/useful but sometimes come in handy.) Take all of this shit away and make it such that it’s no longer easy to just download and delete games in one single place to manage my already fricked disk space (thanks in part to the absolutely insane bloat of games today) and the better, more convenient option becomes piracy because at least it’ll all be in my games folder as opposed to silo’d across 5 different stores that I need to log in to and may or may not let you play offline. Unless your game is quite amazing, it’s really arrogant and moronic for these publishers and developers to think that they can somehow replicate a product that’ll be as good as Steam (look at fricking EGS, completely shit) or add some bullshit additional DRM like israelitePlay.
pretty much this, i can deal with steam, their optional authentication system is braindead to crack when needed and games can be plaayed offline, i draw the line when publishers shove DRM and extra launchers, that is bound to backfire
The funny thing is that Ubisoft could literally just steal a crack and push it through Steam/EGS/Uplay - and let people keep playing their games and DLC.
People also could keep buying those games which means more money for Ubisoft. But the frogs are literally moronic.
>buying ubisoft games
This.
Same goes for people buying games by electronic arts or activision blizzard.
They are absolute shitholes of companies and they are insanely consumer unfriendly.
You deserve everything bad tha thappens to you if you gave them money. You were asking to be fricked.
Taking away digital games is shitty and all, but Ubisoft games are 98% shit
You not own games on Steam
But for whatever reason of all the ones I own only ubi games are shutting down
>You not own games on Steam
You do if you pirate them.
>purchase game on steam
>save files
>refund game
>download crack for said game
>you now own the game you "purchased" from steam
Doesn't your account get flagged at some point?
you legally do
>steamdrones convincing themselves this is ubisoft's fault
Yes, Ubisoft made their single player games dependent on an online server and now they're shutting down said server rendering the games unplayable. What part of all that is not Ubisoft's fault?
Wait, is the ubisoft launcher shutting down?
No, just the drm servers for a bunch of old games that Ubisoft no longer cares to keep around.
And why can't they just disable the DRM instead of removing the entire game, it makes no sense.
Because unwinding the DRM from the game takes an amount of work and therefore money, but flipping the off switch takes almost no work and therefore almost no money.
My point is that it would take a relatively negligible amount of money, compared to how much they're pissing everyone off with this move. It's another stain on the company image, and some people won't buy their future games due to this. Why are they so short sighted.
I'm sure the bean counters did the math and decided nobody gave a rat's ass enough to justify paying developer and QA salaries for it. Sure, it'll hurt their image, maybe even affect future sales in some small way, but they calculated it won't hurt their image more than $X would hurt their bottom line. And if anybody's got data about how being a shit company might affect future sales it'd be Ubisoft.
they could just download a crack and be done with it but they are a bunch of homosexuals.
If gabe had balls he'd ban all ubisoft games from steam if ubisoft didn't agree to patch the game to keep it playable
Ubisoft wouldn't care. They get their paycheck from Timmy that keeps all new releases off Steam and they never put much effort into the pc business anyway
Again: They are morons
Then let them frick off from steam. They can keep getting their paychecks from timmy's fortnite fund while actual gamers forget their games exist
They already fricked off from Steam years ago.
what the frick is steam supposed to do exactly? tell another company they're not allowed to pull the plug on their own drm?
um, yes? Epic would never allow this because Tim Sweeney cares about the little guy (gamers)
Come on now, that's a little rich. I like Tim. It's because he's a bit of a freak. Interesting guy, and in many ways at odds with the corporate status quo. But does he care? I doubt it, but he understands business, and especially public sentiment, given the uphill battle of getting EGS to sit alongside the big gigachad shadow of Steam. Unlike Ubisoft, he has yet to shit in his own backyard to this extent. He's done dumb shit, sure, like I said he's a bit of a freak. But not outright legalised theft, because that is what this is.
>Epic would never allow this
EGS doesn't even warn you that you need the Ubi launcher to play Ubisoft games.
Literally Ubishit's fault. Steam has its fault but this is all on this piece of trash of company. I wish Vivendi succeeded its hostile take over and killed the company for good, selling all its game licenses to good companies instead.
It quite LITERALLY is all Ubisofts fault
how is it not
Steam still allows you to download the binaries for all the games you purchased, even those delisted and removed from the store.
Ubisoft bricks your game by disabling the access to their DRM servers. Applying a crack to your steam copy will grant you access to the game.
Ubisoft are the ones who pulled the plug on their own games, they said so in their own statement.
Considering they're pulling these games from ALL stores and systems, yeah, it is fricking Ubisoft's fault.
this
>B-BUT UBISOFT-
No. Steam is a shitty platform. You don't own your games. If Ubisoft can do it, other devs/publishers can do it too.
>B-B-B-B-BUT
Stop.
MA'AM PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM
Oh don't worry, even if you have bought a code for the game you won't be allowed to redeem it anymore.
I can still redeem, but the creator of the game won't allow me to play, little chink.
I bet you thought that post was real clever when it was sitting in your head.
You know this would still have happened with a physical copy right?
>B-B-B-B-BUT
You stop.
ubisoft is a shitty publisher. no matter where you bought the game, you won't be able to play it. this issue is completely unrelated to steam.
Stop arguing with yourself you pathetic homosexual
Steamies seething at this post
FPBP.
It's not Ubisoft's fault. It's Steam's fault for allowing publishers and developers to disallow access to their games for people who already bought them. Valve should've added a clause that states that once a game is added to Steam it can never be removed.
How do you know that Steam is going to disallow or remove anything?
They'll still allow you to download whatever Ubisoft uploaded to their content servers, it just wont work anymore because it will ask you to log into UPlay
The amount of replies shows how dumb Valvecucks are.
Who's fault is it then genius?
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BLAME GABERINO UBISOFT IS THE ONE SHUTTING DOWN THE GAME WITH THEIR THIRD PARTY DRM
that Valve allowed them to sell the game on Steam with
If there only was some way of knowing which products have third party DRM so consumers can make informed decisions...
>lol we sold you a game that turns your PC into a nuclear bomb and blew up your entire city but its not our fault we said in the EULA we can't guarantee your safety 😉
>EULA
It is literally on the store page in a different bright color to specifically differentiate it. It's your fault for being moronic and buying DRM-filled games.
You need to get streamers going to twitter
Sad truth
You were warned about this in 2005
OP wasn't alive in 2005
Underage?
Anon, a lot of these losers weren't even born yet or were barely conscious
>buy product
>a few years later the manufacturer says you can't use that anymore, buy new product
Can't wait for smart refrigerators and smart toasters to start hitting end of authorized usage
ubisoft should get sued to death over this honestly
sure people won't get their games back if ubisoft goes under but it'd be a nice big middle finger to those french homosexuals
Thousands of gamers should stand outside their offices protesting night and day until change comes. Prevent their employees getting to work.
that reminds me didn't ubisoft have a hostage situation or some shit a while ago? you'd think they'd be more cautious about pissing people off but I guess not
cars have been doing this shit for decades. anything with fuel injection/vvt etc. can and will decide to shit itself if the computer decides your time is up.
>anything with fuel injection/vvt etc. can and will decide to shit itself if the computer decides your time is up
proofs?
the universe is a quantum computer
the most wealthy people in the world are those who learned to reprogram it
get xpilled
>thing x is designed to break when y
>zomg no wai. can you proves this? do you has sauce?
>lolno PILLS duuuuuude le QUANTUM muh x
> He doesn't know.
Tranime homosexuals are always the most clueless. Anyway, the reason that will make sense to your peanut brain is called planned obsolescence. The funny thing is though that in his own, if colourful, way he is right. I'll even give you an example: marketing. We are at the point now where a lot of people think of marketing as reality and cannot even differentiate between the two. That is directly changing what reality even is. Weirdly, reality and quantumn states are closely intertwined from a science perspective. Case in point: viewing subatomic particles changes their behaviour. Now, all of this is because of generations of psychology and marketing research designed to figure out what makes us tick. But instead of being used for something useful, it's used against us to condition us to accept corporations as some kind of greater God. They are not. They are mere businessmen, not your friends. That shady mystery meat selling crack on a street corner? That's what they are, but at a far bigger scale. Meanwhile, people are literally fighting over which brand is best. Shitty timeline. It really is.
go back to redit
I'll make you a deal. I'll go to reddit if it makes you feel better, if you frick off to Ganker and stop shitting up threads with your mental midget corpo-slurp take on things. Deal?
Which... would include you, then. Welcome to the Blue Oyster, fren.
You will literally never be a woman
Correct. That's because I am a male. So says my chromosomes. If that is something that is giving you trouble, maybe talk to a biologist. They will explain the difference. Ideally outside of California.
poster said that anything vvt/ fuel injected is designed to fail after a certain point, so they were asked for more info.
providing any proof or evidence the design was intentionally flawed such as details about what the intended mechanical failures are supposed to be, when the device is designed to fail, or possibly even stress tests by third parties showing these failures happening would be acceptable. trying to deflect by spewing buzzwords is not
p.s. anime imageboard stay mad homosexual
>viewing subatomic particles changes their behaviour.
Not only you are a relentless schizo, but you have no idea of how quantum mechanics work
Take your meds
anon...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/02/980227055013.htm
Fake news. Schrodinger already proved that.
>dudes agreeing with schizo by trying to disgree
now thats schizo
It's more complicated than "I watch le electrons". It has to do with probability and states and I don't wanna go into that.
Either way the poster is a schizo
Just say wave function collapse
no need to wait friend!
They've already done this to smart cars that people missed payments on and iPhone liberated during BLM.
You are way behind
Peloton remotely bricked their smart treadmills, and forced customers to buy a subscription service to use them.
>buy smart appliance
>it gets suspended from working because you said a slur on social media
the future gonna be scary
Smartphones already do this. And everyone just accepts it as normal.
Happened to my galaxy S7, so now I just don't have a phone. My phone worked perfectly fine. One day, I just got a text from T-Mobile that told me they weren't supporting it anymore and that I had a month to buy a new phone. After that month, they bricked it. I just cancelled my service and never went back.
>we
>Ganker& you will post&ragebait about this for 3-4 days and then do nothing like always
There are no alternatives anymore. You could have done something 16 years ago when Steam was new.
>You could have done something 16 years ago when Steam was new.
This isn't a steam issue, this is entirely on Ubisoft.
This already happened with Order of War: Challenge and nothing happened besides some journo articles. This is the future you choose by buying DRM'd cancer, and you will like it.
Epicgods win again. Don't bother replying, subhuman.
I kneel
I'd say boycott but I haven't bought a ubishit game in over a decade anyway?
Never buy ubisoft.
Stop buying games that use third-party launchers.
Valve doesn't do this shit with removed listings on Steam, stop putting faith in other companies to do the same.
>owned games
lie of ommission, you own a liscense wherein they are in their right to do this.
>how do we stop this
Stop buying crappy games.
Yes games like Rayman are crappy now because of this.
Can we skip past the part where that statement takes you aback and get the part where you diversify your libraries, and liscense options as an end user.
>Stop buying crappy games.
Too hard for simple minded Ganker users
>hurr I bought the thing that fricks my ass and my ass was fricked
Wow really? and you want me to do something about it? NO!
I haven't bought any of tehir games in over 17 years.
GOG is not angelic.
>Stop buying digital games.
FTFY
Physical only or pirate, never buy from steam or GOG or anywhere else online for digital games.
>Physical
That ship has sailed a decade ago, nowdays physical boxes have a steam key, or are straight up unplayable without the day 1 patch.
>no gog
Having a gog installer stored is the closest shit you get to actually owning your product, whats wrong with that?
>That ship has sailed a decade ago
Then I will gladly pirate any digital only game with no weight on my heart knowing I would have paid if they sold it physically.
ubisoft also had always online drm on their physical copies you moron
Why are people acting like physical games are DRM free now? This hasn't been the case in many years even on consoles
>day 1 patch
This meme needs to die, its si hugely overblown. The number of games that legit need to have a day 1 patch are limited to:
-Microsoft shit you cant even use without a day 1 update
-literally broken shit that cant be played and its your fault if you knowingly bought it(tony hawk)
99% of games are perfectly playable without "le day 1 patch", and this moronic bogeyman of not being able to play a game just cause its missing some bug fixes or something is probably never going to effect you, ever. The shit that does come out actually broken is rightfully mocked.
Tru. Only exception i care about is The Evil Within. God fricking damn it.
>lie of ommission, you own a liscense wherein they are in their right to do this.
no, they claim you own a license, but claiming something in a contract doesn't make it true, and courts have had mixed reactions to this kind of thing.
challenge (impossible difficulty): name one good ubisoft game
Rayman.
Assassin's Creed II.
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
>gayman
>assman's creed poo
>gaysassins pee brothercum
try again
>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword
pretty accurate description of ubishit games, good job anon
GRAW 1 and 2
you play of call of duty too? real intellectual gamer over here
never played it you get a pass, but its probably gay
>intellectual
>gamer
grow up
Tribes of the East
Most Rayman games
The original splinter cell games
Prince of Persia trilogy
Beyond good & evil
>Name a good modern ubisoft game
Rayman legends, but I'm pretty sure it's nearly a decade old by now, also Mario + rabbids battle kingdoms
Far Cry 1
Far Cry 2
Far Cry 5
Assasins creed 1
Immortals Fenyx Rising
Mario Rabbids
Driver:San Francisco
Extremely based.
morons should have never used licensed cars.
what the frick, just googled this and it's no longer on the steam store'?
It's a well-known story.
>what the frick, just googled this and it's no longer on the steam store'?
It hasn't been available for sale for a very long time, online servers are gone as well but there's a community workaround.
You know what DOES have it though?
Multiple public trackers.
Pirates win again.
The Anno series
Watch dogs 1
Assincreed's Black Flag
ubisoft published stick of truth, I think that is the only game I bought that gave them any money
I pirated black flag 4 and it was okay
trackmania but only because they bought nadeo
Far Cry 6 Mind of Pagan Min dlc
Shootmania
Rayman
Rayman 2
Rayman 3
Mario & Rabbids
Trackmania
pre 07? many, post 07? almost none
First 3 Splinter Cell games and Prince of Persia's Sands of Time trilogy.
Might and magic
Rainbow Six Vegas 2
Child of Light
>R6 Vegas 2
9/10 turn into 6/10 because of that final boss
They only made two good games in the last ca. 12 years.
Anno 1404 and the South Park games.
Splinter Cell 1~DA
Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2
Assassin's Creed 2
Rayman Origins (in Co-Op at least)
Prince of Persia games
Far Cry 1, 2 and 5
Driver: San Francisco
Watch_Dogs 1 and 2
The Crew 1 was pretty decent all things considered
there's plenty
what you should have said was
>name one good modern ubisoft game
That's too easy.
*tips fedora*
The question should be
Name one good ubishit game in the last 7 years.
I guess Prince of Persia was shit all along. I agree.
Trackmania
>buying Ubisoft games
Step 1. DON'T BE A HUGE FRICKING moron.
It's just that simple.
Meanwhile I will still be able to play Assassin's Creed Liberation HD thanks to backwards compatibility on my Series X. Yet you lot say consoles are worse for this.
Why does a lot of Ganker still use Steam? Buy your games on GOG or pirate them. It's simple.
I also buy on itch.io and used to buy a lot on Humble Store.
Achievements.
Steam achievements suck though. You can unlock them using a third party tool. At least get an Xbox if you care about achievements. Can't be tampered with at all since Xbox One required online verification.
>You can unlock them using a third party tool
Why would I care about how other people have gotten them?
Doesn't matter if it's Ubisoft, something like this shouldn't take place. Steam should either give money back for buying this product or offer an alternative way of making it up, since it's through their platform.
I mean if you request a refund then itll probably go through even if you owned it ages ago. Steam usually gets lax with this kind of stuff when insane shit like this happens.
Except the game runs on ubisoft's launcher.
>Steam should either give money back for buying this product or offer an alternative way of making it up, since it's through their platform
if you bought the game through gamestop or epic, does that too mean they should refund me the money? just curious if the same rules apply to physical copies and little timmy
Steam is fricking based. Why would you buy games from GOG apart from porn games?
Dude, even in France we fricking hate ubisoft. They're hated by their own.
>stands by and lets ubisoft frick their customers in the ass
>based
Pathetic
Valve has zero legal grounds to demand Ubisoft do anything. Ubisoft has no legal obligation to keep servers online forever or provide offline workarounds. That's why every Ubisoft game on Steam has always had that giant red warning banner, you buy Ubisoft garbage at your own peril.
Ubisoft left Steam years ago. What can even Valve do? Nothing sadly. The best they could do is ban all their games.
Steamgays are literally the tendies of pc
Watch for the next couple of day how steamBlacks will defend everything their plataform do because "gabe is le based fatman who rapes my wallet xD" memes that brainwashed zoomers
>Ubisoft disabling their games DLC and removing them from purchase and downloading from a storefront
>Steamgays
Why are you obsessed with a storefront?
>Oh no, China!
Now you know how the rest of the world feels about the US. Same shit, just under different stripes. You are both aggressively expansionist, limit the freedoms of your people more and more every year, and money is your God, just like it is for the Chinese.
WW3 when?
Best case scenario china rusia and usa nuke each other and we can start all over again
you will die and all of your loved ones too, the only people will survive is the top of the countries and not all
Does the GOG version of this game still work without Ubisoft servers?
It's not available on GOG
>you can't have you game taken away if you couldn't buy it in the first place!
Bravo GoG
>GoG has actual standards for their store and doesn't let games in the store that can frick you over
Damn you got me, VaIvedrone
>GoG treats their customers as literal children who need to be protected from ever having the possibility of making a bad decision
Nice.
>GoG isn't israeli enough to allowed third party devs to frick over their customers buying games on their store
ON NO, SO BAD!
>see giant red WARNING: israeliteBISOFT DRM banner on Steam
>still clicks buy
>NOOO WHY DID YOU GIVE ME THE CHOICE, YOU KNOW HOW WEAK WILLED I AM THIS IS YOUR FAULT VALVE
>t-they didn't have those games on their story because they KNEW this is gonna happen!
Damn, magic slav gypsies and their divination powers
They let Hitman in last year lmao
They had to take it down after backlash
>gog has standards
lol, lmao
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjwUN1mtJdCkgtTDRB2IoFp7PP41fraY-oFNY00fEkI/edit#gid=0
becouse it is far better plafform than gog. and it makes leftist seethe thats why
I remember steamie excuse like no gaben wouldn't do it and release their secret anti drm mode look now there is no anti drm mode homosexuals in the first place stop buying games from steam and ubisoft go pirate
gays who use steam are not true v gays they are the reddit pcmr gays who fell for the 2008 valve marketing meme hence the homosexual gaslighting responses in this thread
I'm surprised power tripping steam mods haven't banned the threads yet
mostly for multiplayer
I do all of these things.
The red flag is literally there in red. Don't buy Steam games with 3rd party DRM unless you are one of those who plays once and doesn't ever intend to replay.
steamcucks don't own anything
Don't buy Ubisoft games.
At this point they aren't even worth pirating.
Hell, at this point I treat all game purchases as a donation, and I only donate to companies I like.
If I don't like how your business is run, I don't care how good your game is, I'm not paying for it.
Unless you're giving me a physical item that can never be taken from me by corporate bullshit, my money is a fricking donation, and I WILL withhold it at my discretion.
>buy game
>don't say anything
>money stolen
>Ubisoft games delete themselves out of my Steam library
Nothing of value was lost.
can they just not patch this and avoid the lawsuit?
Define "they." If you mean Ubisoft, they don't care. If you mean Valve, they cannot do shit. Valve cannot remove DRM from games they don't own.
Check the Steam pages from the soon-to-be-delisted games.
>How do we stop them?
You send the Australian Government after them.
>Puttin a clickbait journo article in your collage to purposely mislead people
The same thing happened to DS1 when they put out that shitty remaster but people weren't getting assblasted and clickbaiting because it was being replaced and not completely killed from the store.
>The same thing happened to DS1
No it didn't, you can still download DS1 if you own it, you won't have access to this at all.
But you'll still have it if you have it installed. Granted idk why you would even want to play ubishit let alone old ubishit from the beginning of their downfall.
No, anon. Even if you have the dlc installed you will not be able to access it anymore. Accessing Ubisoft DLC for any game released since 2013 requires a Ubisoft Services network check-in to unlock the content.
That network check in is being permanently disabled for every game on this list:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/gameplay/article/decommissioning-of-online-services-september-2022/000102396
It will not be possible to play the DLC or any online modes for any game on this list after the services are disabled.
I figured that yes for the DLC. Ubishit was always at least 2/4 of the horsemen bringing the apocalypse to gaming.
if I was an AAA company I'd be so pissed at ubisoft
imagine you're trying to sell your DLC bullshit and here you have ubisoft giving ammunition to gamers to say 'look don't buy dlc, don't even buy these games because the company can just take them away'
Do Ubisoft even offer AC3 Remastered free if you own this on Steam?
Even if they completely shut down the access to the original DS1 (which they didn't) they'd at least have a case with the game still being available through the remaster.
Thing is, at least the remaster is a thing. There's literally nothing replacing all of these games that are getting removed.
imagine playing any UbiSoft game after Assassins Creed 1. Imagine buying them after that one game that was just as broken as Cyberpunk. Even after this, I bet you morons will still buy UbiSoft games.
Game is abandonware at this point and anyone can just post cracked version completely legally on archive.org or torrents.
>legally
That's not how it works.
>That's not how it works.
it's how software has worked for fricking decades, the only ones who may care are copyright trolls, and if all they can be bothered to do is send DMCA i can file them away with the shit from my butthole
>Game is abandonware
Legally no such thing.
>anyone can just post cracked version completely legally on archive.org or torrents.
Legally they cannot.
It's ancient software artifact that no longer can be bought. It should be freely available as an artifact of human civilization. And no, authors don't get a say in what gets into museums.
Yeah, yeah, whatever, but something should happen doesn't mean it's legal like you said in that post. That's the point, you dumb frick.
We should see cracks on myabandonware.com soon enough
Don't buy always online garbage in the first place. If the game requires a constant internet connection it WILL die in the future. Don't expect publishers - especially Ubishit - to patch their games. They don't care.
it's worse than that, shit that never had an online component like far cry 3 dlc is getting pulled
a company can say 'hey this shit you bought requires some online check now and btw we're not going to support this dlc anymore, ty for your money'
Because Ubisoft is exceptionally moronic and they use those servers to also do the DLC-authentications.
This is just moronic from a business perspective.
>hmm, should we maybe patch our games and let people verify dlc ownership through Steam or uplay directly?
>Nah
they're truly and awful company, you'd think a company that makes so much money off microtransactions would try to inspire confidence in preserving people's purchases
That's ok. This is what class action lawsuits are for. They can eat a class action lawsuit and then pay a few tens of millions out to people who bought the game and then also get forced to disable the DRM checks in the game so people can continue playing what they purchased.
This is what lawsuits are for.
If you own this game and want some free money, call up a lawyer.
.
>You will own nothing
I have no problem with this, private ownership is nothing but a capitalist agenda.
>But we can take away the things you have paid to use and not return your investment
That's just theft, one is not synonymous with the other. If Ubishit was disabling my owned games and then giving me my money back, there's no issue.
>I'm ok with theft as long as it's the government doing it
>'you don't own this, you just lease it from us'
>'ok now that you are done with it we are taking it back and returning the money you used to get it'
>theft
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
>returning the money
holy fricking shit, how are you this moronic?
The concept of theft relies on the concept of private ownership, one cannot exist without the other.
dumb commie
>I have no problem with this, private ownership is nothing but a capitalist agenda.
lmao, this is solid bait, if it isn't your very existence is the funniest joke ive heard all month.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest
Kys commie trash
what's your home address amigo?
Last ubisoft game I purchased was FarCry 5 and I regret it. Far Cry 4 was way better.
I am sure that they secured themselves legally with some israeli phrases in the terms of use that nobody reads, but this is terrible and they should be held accountable. Imagine spending, over the years hundreds of dollars/euros on games, and even if you harp about it,Ubisoft has a lot of aaa games.
And now it's just taken away just like that. Like what the frick.
Imagine buying a screwdriver and putting it in your shed and now the butthole you bought it from comes and takes it away because he felt like it. Frick them.
>secured themselves legally
>terms of use
lol
lmao even
This. If there is not a legal requirement, there absolutely should be, as this essentially falls under 'This is no longer the product I bought'. You can't make someone pay 30$ for a thing, but then completely change that thing over time so it is no longer recognizable as the thing that was originally bought. People should have the completely fair argument that they paid 30$ to rent/lease/whatever this product on steam, not ubishit's launcher, and if it is no longer available on steam, then ubishit is required legally to return their money.
Realistically how hard would it be for them to just patch the games offline? I know servers are crazy expensive but it can't be that hard.
not hard at fricking all
patches have existed since the 90s
All you need is the game and the patch files + exe
One class action lawsuit ought to do it.
>America ruled that class action lawsuits cannot be brought against video games as it would be unfair to games
Slave to a broken order, dare you look upon the truth?
>ping www.gaydrmserver.co.uk
>if server = on : then game start=yes
>if server = kill : then game start=no
changed to
>ping www.gaydrmserver.co.uk
>if server = on : then game start=yes
>if server = kill : then game start=also yes
very easy fix
how about instead of removing the game you just remove the DRM?
I bought Rayman Legends on Steam and you need Uplay to launch it. Will that game stop working?
It says in the Steam EULA that all the Steam games you bought are rentals and that Valve can remove access to them at any time
Wrong shitposter-kun.
Steams EULA says that you BUY a LICENSE. That isn't rental.
You own "the right" to play that game through the use of Steam. A "right" they can't simply take away from you just like someone can't just steal your physical copies without repercussion. The only realistic scenario in which Steam can "take away" your games is Steam itself shutting down for good. Which is very unlikely considering Steams own marketshare.
You "buy" a license that is revocable at any time for any reason. It's an extended rental. You don't own it and you don't have the right to play it forever. If they say "no more", then there's nothing you can do about it.
That's not how it works in most of the civilized world my american friend.
Let's see how many refunds ubisoft hands out in the EU, my guess is zero.
It's always the same.
>EU citizens are entitled to refunds
>Ubisoft says no
>if you are smart and keep insisting on a refund they will give it to you
Automatic refunds only happen if some kind of outrage happens. Individual cases outside of that usually result into you fighting with their customer service until you threaten legal actions and they realize "oh shit this guy knows what he is talking about"
It's actually this. I don't care for the Ubishit game in the first place (and I never owned it either), but if I did I would be wholly confident that I would, at the very least, get my money back.
Except you don't know what you're talking about. Companies don't have an obligation to keep servers going on forever, if that were the case MMOs wouldn't exist. At most, if you bought the game like a week before it got pulled you might have a case, everyone else is just gonna get laughed out of court in any country.
Only in case of games which actually require online in order to function.
Games like Driver or FarCry could easily get patched to ensure they run basicly forever.
not just ubisoft, pretty much every single north american company will stay quiet when they owe a european compensation, i had the same issue when i took a flight and it was delayed due to their issue, they didn't give the americans anything but i was entitled to compensation, had to chase them up for almost 6 months to get my cheque
Ubisoft is french though.
sorry my point was that north americans aren't protected by the same laws, so companies will stay quiet until europeans contact them directly
Happend to my brother with American Airlines. They refused until he reminded them that he is german. Took them over 2 months to issue the refund.
Licenses are not actually "revokable" at any time for any reason.
You genuinely have no idea how a license works and are just spewing shit out of your mouth like a moron.
>he says while ubisoft revokes his purchased license
And this is why you start a class action lawsuit against the company for doing this
Like this is about as slamdunk as its going to get. If you bought this game there's no reason you shouldn't be doing the following:
1. Contacting ubisoft customers support and demanding a refund
2. Threatening to sue them if they don't refund you
3. Calling a lawyer and starting either a small claims or class action lawsuit against ubisoft, depending on how much time and money you have
The decision on whether ubisoft can get away with it or not is something decided in the court battle, it is not something pre-decided before it even starts like the corporate shills want you to believe.
USA Support: (415) 547-9778
Website: Ubisoft official website
E-mail: Ubisoft support
Address: 625 Third Street San Francisco, CA 94107
Reminder that its legal to steal anything under 1000 dollars in San Francisco. Just walk into the ubisoft hq and help yourself to some of their stuff. They take what you paid for; you take what they paid for. Just don't go over $999.
Too late
>steam take away games you paid for
>epic have given me a library of over 100 games for free
Perhaps the Chink take-over won't be so bad?
You picked the wrong examples for your shitpost.
Far Cry and the other Ubisoft games on Epic Game Store will also stop working.
It doesn't matter if you got the games through Steam, EGS or Uplay.
frick you discordsisters and your moronic campaigns ruining this fricking website with misinformation.
its simply an always-online game thats getting discontinued like a dead mmo. I agree thats dogshit practice but that isnt on steam in any way shape or form. this is the 20th thread about this in 24 hours. kys.
Ubisoft has been a known shitcompany for well over ten years, if you bought their games you deserve to be shat on by them.
Nice i can't wait for steamdrones somehow defend this while if it was epic they would be spamming he catalog with chink threads despite steam being bigger in china than in USA itself.
Ubisoft is also disabling the games on Epic you moron
ass greed 1 and 2 are still available because they were always hosted on the steam servers
ubishit never hosted the other games on the steam servers
if ubishit actually cared for their customers they'd send their shit to the steam servers so that people could still play the games they purchased
nice try ebinshill
You people switched to buying digital games... you get what you fricking deserve. I have no sympathy for you. Be sure to buy the remaster next year, or the cloud version, or your episodic season passes, homosexual. People like you ruined gaming forever. Get fricked.
You can't play your physical copies of said removed games either anymore you moron, because the games can only be played when you are connected to the Ubisoft servers, which they are taking down for these games.
I haven't bought a Ubisoft game since Brotherhood, so I wouldn't know. You idiots are still to blame for supporting this either way though.
I have never bought a ubisoft game in my entire life, so you supported this bullshit more than I did because Brotherhood already had their Uplay DRM garbage. It started with AC2 I believe or maybe even earlier. So even if you bought it physically, you supported those exact practices that require a constant online verification from their servers that you now complain about.
ac3 was when they moved their games to ubiplay
ass 1 and 2 will still be available on steam after the server shut downs
I am pretty sure that you can't install AC2 from a physical copy on a new PC without an internet connection and just play it. Unless they have since removed their original DRM for that game. I distinctly remember when AC2 got cracked, it was a big deal because it had at the time a very intricate anti-piracy DRM that required a periodical authentification from the Ubisoft servers.
AC1, 2, and Brotherhood didn't require you to be online to play them and I wouldn't have bought them if they had. So, no, I didn't support this moronic shit.
The game is shit anyway, they're just dump the shit from my library, quite thankful
I will never understand why Ganker shills for steam or any digital homosexualry service
Americans worship corporations
but lv is french and adidas is lime german
how did you miss the entire point of the picture?
Physical copies of these games are affected by this exact same problem. Regardless of whether you installed the game from your physical DVD or from a digital download, you need to connect to the Ubisoft servers in order to play it, which they are taking down for these particular older games. Why are some posters on Ganker literally too stupid to understand this extremely easy to understand fact?
This has nothing to do with steam you fricking moron holy shit
Every version of these games that connects to ubisoft servers, PC or console, is fricked.
Having a plastic box on your shelf does not save you.
If anything, people will patch/crack (and already have) the PC versions of these games, so you are stickily worth off "owning" the "physical" console version of these games.
>your owned games on Steam
you dont own your steam games
read the TOS
valve needs to put their foot down and start banning third party clients. no uplay, no origin, nothing. these companies need steam more than steam needs them.
>EGS shills making it about steam when it's about ubisoft
Considering EGS has been in bed with Ubishit for a while not, it's not surprising.
They're so fricking stupid they don't even realize the same thing is happening on EGS to Ubisoft titles.
But you didn't buy your games on Steam.
You bought a license from Mr. Gabe that says you can use those games for the time being (subject for termination for any reason they want)
That's the case for any game that requires you to be online and connected to a server in order to play. So pretty much all Blizzard games, all modern Ubisoft games, a majority of EA games you don't own even if you bought a physical copy.
EGS: 0
STEAM: 20
>y-you don't own the game! you own a license
>w-we'll just take it from you
NOT SO FAST, ME HEARTIES!
>buy game
>don’t say Black person or break the TOS in any way
>money stolen
This is the future you chose.
People need to form a class action lawsuit NOW, rip the weed from the soil before it’s allowed to spread.
Yeah, good luck with that. You signed the ToS, idiot. Plus you don't own the game(s), Ubisoft does. They can do whatever they want with them.
ToS doesn't mean shit in the court, just ask valve
>ToS
>EULA
>legally binding
lol
lmao, even
>You signed the ToS, idiot
Can you show me a signature?
How many overly complicated legal documents survive interaction with the courtroom? (Hint: none)
>You signed the ToS, idiot.
Those aren't allowed to surprise me by law. § 305c I BGB.
Blah blah blah, see you in court Mr. homosexual, esquire
>You signed the ToS, idiot.
I'm not a contract lawyer, but have studied Law and in doing so have a general idea.
ToS has never been legally binding and that excuse wouldn't hold up in court. Especially if it contravenes actual consumer protection laws already on the books.
A contract is immediately voided regardless of whether it is agreed upon by both parties if it requires either party to break the law in either the formation or execution of said contract.
>How do we stop them?
buy the remaster llike a good paypig
>leftist company who's games are about how classically liberal Christian values are the greatest blight on humanity
>fail to treat economic partners with basic human decency, just like the communists that they worship
Checks out.
>implying I own ubisoft games
>buying digital games
Buy physical.
Pirate digital.
>don't know anything
>make stupid posts
Many such cases.
Why don't you anons play THE actual best game by Ubisoft? I unironically enjoyed this shit more than any Ubisoft game
>review bombing a game that will disappear from steam in a few days
Why aren't people leaving negative reviews on newer Ubisoft games instead? they're gonna disappear in a few years as well
They are disabling that your game will work because they are shutting down your servers.
You'll still be able to download it, it just wont work without UPlay servers.
It would take 5 seconds to make a patch to skip the uplay check
And this is what class action lawsuits are for.
It doesn't matter what ubisoft tries to say in whatever Terms of Service or anything else you fricking moron.
Courts are not full of idiots like you who shrug and go "well you read a contract that says its ok for him to murder you and didn't say no, so its ok to murder you". Ubisoft has to show that they are not trying to scam and frick over their customers. Ubisoft will have to show that they are not trying to scam and frick over their investors. Ubisoft will have to show that removing the DRM is impossible and unavoidable and that's why it's ok to deny the customers access to the product they purchased.
Courts are not some place where the law just automatically goes the way a corporation wants just because you're a moron too fricking stupid to understand how the law works
Well, start your lawsuit then. I'm sure decades of EA and Ubi pulling the same shit, MMOs dying due to the same shit, and nothing happening to any of the companies involved just means that nobody ever tried suing them.
You know damn well that disabling a shitty DRM function and keeping an MMO that has no playerbase running are two very different things.
>Courts are not some place where the law just automatically goes the way a corporation wants
It kind of is if corporation drags things out as long as possible and you are forced to just quietly give up, because you ran out of money ages ago.
Reminder that the EU still plans to force storefronts (Steam, Sony, Nintendo, Epic) to implement re-selling.
If i can sell a physical copy of a game i should also be able to sell my digital copy at some point.
They won't sell anything in the future, it will all be subscription based.
Mostly. It's why companies like the idea of subscriptions so much in the first place. They want control and you don't want to deal with customers who actually own the products they bought.
>8 years
Their moronic future will fail.
You'd think boomers would understand how fast time flies
>ubishills keep deflecting to steam when people historically have loads of delisted games they can still play on their accounts
This
GFWL is fricking dead and yet i can still play Fable 3 through Steam. Only Ubisoft is moronic enough to force always-online drm shit on their singleplayer games.
Assassin's Creed and Far Cry are two of their biggest franchises and now parts of them become unplayable through sheer incompetence. Not even EA are this moronic and EA never gave a shit about their older titles.
>Only Ubisoft is moronic enough to force always-online drm shit on their singleplayer games.
IO Interactive
ubisoft must be moronic if they think the gay premium online only shop is stopping me from pirating their games
Sorry. I shop only on GOG. Only morons buy games with DRM.
If enough people could be arsed to get mad about this Ubisoft would quickly patch their games to verify DLC and ownership through either Steam or Ubisoft Connect. Because the alternative would be thousands of people asking or refunds which would end up costing them way too much - making patching the games cheaper,
But that won't happen because its 2022 and nobody gives a frick about Driver San Francisco - a game that has been unavailable for purchase for nearly a decade, a shitty PS Vita Asscreed game and some Far Cry DLC
>Ubisoft
Moldman, comment?
I'm surprised he didn't post anything about this on twitter. He usually comments on topics like this.
Though it will most likely be a topic for the next video chat
>cant access game presumably for online features
>ubishit games go through uplay anyway
am i missing something?
This smells like a class action lawsuit
Ubisoft would need to convince the judges that this is justified.
>high upkeep
>patching taking too much effort
>technical difficulties due to outdated hard/software
Could be fun to watch
>patch to make game not call home whenever you start it
>too much effort
I was going to say something sarcastic, but then I realized that this may very well be too much for a current year vidya company.
There's no lawsuit here. I'm sure the TOS clearly states that the game is dependent on a central authentification server and will only run while that server is online, do you agree to the risk, yada yada. This isn't a recent practice, companies have gotten good at killing games.
Nothing happened with Games For Windows Live shut down and also left a ton of games like Lost Planet 2 dysfunctional.
Digital goods laws have evolved quite a bit since GFWL was a thing.
This is definitely not an easy case for Ubi if someone with competent lawyers chooses to sue in some countries.
Black person, EA has been doing this shit for probably decades at this point. There are physical EA games out there that no longer work because they turned off the servers. Sometimes the community cares enough to crack or reverse-engineer the server to allow singleplayer, but that's not always the case.
Point is, this isn't news. Games that rely on a central server have always been a scam and WILL die, and there's nothing you can do about it. Don't buy shit with server-side DRM.
>Don't buy shit with server-side DRM.
just to be save, how can I decipher if it is server-sided? I never buy Ubishit or EA games so I think I'm pretty save
I'm convinced vidya will at some point crash and burn and there will be an entire decade where we'll all have to just play older games, kinda like when cars in the 70s were released being SLOWER than the last decade because of fuel efficiency standards.
Never ever. The industry is way too huge to crash. At worst it'll shift focus, like TV and print media are doing. But outright crash? Not gonna happen unless something drastic happens to the world.
Why does Valve allow devs that sell games on their platform to disable the games there after you buy them?
What's the point of buying games on Steam when it can be removed any day?
Steam still obliges to their part. You will always be allowed to download the game binaries you purchased.This is happening because the game you purchased runs 3rd party DRM..
Thats why you have a big ass disclaimer when buying games with third party DRM. Don't buy games with third party DRM.
A real world corresponding situation would be whining at walmart because they used to sell HP printers that are now discontinued and whose ink toners are not produced anymore.
>This is happening because the game you purchased runs 3rd party DRM..
Then don't fricking allow game that forces you to run a 3rd party DRM, this entire situation is because Valve is greedy and has zero standards or control with their store.
Heck devs can whenever they want just instantly remove your game from your library without even having to contact Valve at first, they can do this for no reason at all.
>instantly remove your game from your library
this never happened
https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037686825899/
Revoking licenses bought with fraudolent means is not Steam TOS, it's the law.
You can't blame Ford if the police takes away a stolen car you bought.
Now show me a game that got removed after being legally acquired trugh the Steam store
>bought with fraudolent means
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/
It was humblebundle anon and the devs THEMSELVES said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done and they said they received their money from the bundle.
You are fricking moronic, I just proved your wrong, the devs themselves said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been done.
The fact remains that devs on Steam can whenever they want remove your games from your account without any reason
> Let me make this clear, this is my fault and my fault alone. I was misinformed and I made a really stupid decision. If you are angry, your anger is justified. I won't ask you to take down your negative reviews or angry messages. It's my fault, so I won't blame anyone for getting angry at me.
>Also, in regard to Bundle Stars, they have paid me. This whole thing has nothing to do with them, and it was all a mistake on my end.
How are you going to goalpost your skin away from this one?
The devs were also who flagged their batch of keys as fraudulent, you moron.
It doesn't just happen on its own.
>The devs were also who flagged their batch of keys as fraudulent, you moron.
The dev said thathe the money from the keys and it was entirely their fault, are you fricking going to argue now that he is lying and nothing I matter or he says matter because you are in the right anyways?
Why did you ignore that you said first that games can't just get removed from your account by the devs when this now was proven to be a total lie?
>Why did you ignore that you said first that games can't just get removed from your account by the devs when this now was proven to be a total lie?
because if the action was not rolled back the customers could've whined to Humble bundle, HB wuold then issue refunds and go nuclear on the dev ass. This was a lawsuit about to happen.
Developers can't remove CD keys (emphasis on the key part, this can't happen if you buy games from the store) unless they claim fraud, and if no fraud happened, they are the ones braking the TOS, and Steam would intervine.
Lying about what? The dev literally says that fricking with the keys from the batch that he gave to the re-seller was his own fault.
Please work on you reading comprehension.
And everyone already knows Steam can modify your account, I don't understand why you think you've uncovered some huge shocking truth here.
They have literally 0 reason to randomly do so themselves (which is apparently what you believe commonly happens) because of legal and PR repercussions.
As evident from this thread, people can't even figure out that Ubisoft is to blame for killing their own games.
THE FIRST POST was claimed that devs could not remove games from your library, I proved you wrong and now you are doing the most insane goalposting that has nothing to do with it.
What you are saying has nothing to do with the dicusssion.
Okay dude.
If you include criminal fraud, devs can "remove" games from your account.
Yes.
The only way to fix this is to remove the option for devs to generate keys for their games, so now people can only purchase games through Steam directly and nowhere else.
Alright.
>If you include criminal fraud, devs can "remove" games from your account.
Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from steam without breaking the law.
Have you forgotten that you don't own your games on Steam?
And stop with the goalposting, I proved your first statement wrong, just take the L man.
>Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from steam without breaking the law.
nice wordplay, moron. Let me fix that for you:
>Show me any report or source where it is cited that devs can't remove games from your steam LIBRARY without breaking the law.
That's called consumer protection rights. look into it.
>devs that sell games on their platform to disable the games there after you buy them?
except in your example the game wasnt bought on that platform
and you're also ignoring the part that the dev rolled back their frickup because if they didnt they would've been sued into the floor. IE if they actually had followed through with your doomsday prediction, the law would've crashed down on them and put the game back, making it a moot point
this isnt goalpost shifting, this is just you being moronic
Why are you even trying to goalpost still? I proved you wrong and you even admit it.
All you do know is speculate on theoretical situations that MIGHT happen.
I showed you for a fact that devs can remove any games at any times from your library and now you try and argue "b-but they could have sued them"(no they couldn't because you don't own anything on steam) and do pure arbitrary speculations about stuff that never happened.
Just take the L man.
>no they couldn't because you don't own anything on steam
you're selling this meme real fricking hard, bro. Sorry but it doesnt work like that.
Delisted games are still playable if you have them.in your library
devs fricking with your library is punishable by law, which is why they cant. And if they do try it'll end badly for them, and you'll have the game back in your library
>Why are you even trying to goalpost still?
>All you do know is speculate on theoretical situations that MIGHT happen.
my thoughts exactly. You seem obsessed with the idea that devs can just take games away from your library and walk away scot free. Wanna nail those goalposts down first before acvusing others of moving them, moron?
>devs fricking with your library is punishable by law, which is why they cant. And if they do try it'll end badly for them, and you'll have the game back in your library
No it's not, you don't own the game. How many times do I have to tell you, moron?
>No it's not
the EU says yes, moron. Why are you trying so hard to defend this flawed example? If devs can get away with doing something like this surely you would have dozens more that are more prudent to your argument for you to talk about
> If devs can get away with doing something like this surely you would have dozens more that are more prudent to your argument for you to talk about
Why would devs randomly delete games from your library? You don't own the game and you can do jackshit if they remove it from your account. Because YOU DO NOT OWN IT.
>You don't own the game and you can do jackshit if they remove it from your account. Because YOU DO NOT OWN IT.
the eu says otherwise. screaming the same thing over and over like a deranged troony wont change that fact
>the eu says otherwise
No it doesn't, why are you making shit up?
>No it doesn't
yes it does. its why eu made steam and all digital storefronts kneel. Its why we can refund games and soon, resell them.
This is also a fact.
There's so many batshit devs fighting with users on the Steam boards.
If they could actually target accounts to remove their games from, it would happen constantly.
>If they could actually target accounts to remove their games from, it would happen constantly.
We know of devs who would want nothing more in the world than to be able to do that but they can't so instead they had to hard code a blacklisting of the Steam account into the game's executable itself.
It quite literally against the law in most places in the world, quite possibly in the US as well. While it is true that you don't "own" the game; by purchasing the game you are entering a contract where they provide access in exchange for your money. If they are no longer able to provide access, the contract is broken and you are entitled to a full refund.
Funnily enough, this also applies to being banned as well; as arbitrarily revoking access triggers the same cause of action. You just won't find anyone willing to spend the thousands of dollars (hiring lawyers, court fees etc.) to at best gain a ~$60 refund for saying gamer words.
You seem very obsessed with winning your moronic slapfight but sadly the only example you have is a dev admitting that he fricked up, abused the system and corrected his mistake.
>You claim stabbing is illegal yet i got stabbed the other day, checkmate atheists
Ok, lemme rephrase my first statement:
Save for fraudolent purchases and severe misuse of the key system, developers have no means of removing games from your library.
Developers have no means of removing a game from your library period. All they can do is ask Valve to do it. Valve will do it. They will not verify whether the devs are in the right or anything. When the request is made they'll just carry it through. Valve just says "Make sure you REALLY want to revoke access when you ask us to revoke access because we will just do it no questions asked and there's no undoing it."
why are you making up lies?
Valve provides an interface for devs to request a key be revoked. The dev has to the know the key they want to revoke. Devs can't just go into user accounts and take games away from them or anything like that.
As far as I know, they can only revoke the entire batch they generated.
Nope singular keys can be revoked
That's exactly what he did...
Developers are not admin users of Steam or anything. They cannot just go around fiddling with Steam accounts. They can revoke keys. That's it.
>if you buy stolen keys, you should be allowed to keep the game
Are you Russian, by any chance?
An anti fraud tool was misused and then everything got rolled back, you sure showed me
I remembered when that happened. I logged into steam and it gave me a notice going "hey frick you" and the game disappeared from my library.
The developers had the galls to ask for you to email them with private info to get another key.
Do you not know this is affecting EGS as well? It's literally all on ubisoft why are you still acting like this is all about steam? it's a bit of a much grander issue with digital ownership.
by that logic they shouldn't allow MMO's and multiplayer titles with MM because one day eventually the servers will be shut down
Can you say some words for the people that bought the "physical" console version of these games, that will also no longer work?
I'm curious who is at fault there.
I have so many "removed" games in my account that I can tell you that it probably wont even be removed.
They will just de-list it from the store and wont even bother to update it to not download UPlay.
Instead, it will just download all the files and UPlay and you wont be able to log into UPlay
Do that class action suit thingie. israelitebisoft and Vulva need a good slap.
Thanks for reminding me why I never buy your games Ubisoft.
Reminder that this also effects the console versions of those games.
>"buying" games on Steam
why would you ever do that? I can think of maybe 2 titles the last decade that I would be forced to get on Steam thanks to their shitty DRM, otherwise why would you ever do this?
>lets pretend to be moronic for the Nth time this thread
Here's your (You)
>Ctrl + racism
>no results
THEY ARE TAKING DOWN A GAME WITH YASS QUEEN... SOMETHING I DONT KNOW I DONT PLAY VIDEOGAMES.. THOSE RACIST NATZEE PERPETUATING MUH SOGGY KNEE...
You stupid fricks have it served and not using it.
That's why I only buy games on GOG, if it's not there I pirate.
> you will own nothing and you will be happy.
next time vote for nationalists.
I don't take orders from reddt spacers. Frick off from this site.
you can sue
but, best to learn from this and Never buy their game, or any game for that matter
STOP.
KILLING.
GAMES.
>'dude just vote with your wallet lmao'
>Companies continue pumping out garbage, continue making gorillions of dollars, continue doing anti-consumer shit like this
Voting with your wallet doesn't work when 75% of the world is subhuman.
>buy service
>service ceased to function
>"NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!"
???
>worst ass creed evar
none care
Nuke France
>buy car from car salesman
>car doesn't work anymore
>go to salesman and ask him to fix it
>lol no the manufacturer disabled it. Though luck boy, your money is mine
Ganker will unironically defend this.
lmao I love how all the ubishills are desperately trying to pin this on steam when all of this could have easily been solved if they just removed the online drm.
You ain't fooling anyone when ther have been loads of delisted games that still work on people's accounts.
A lot of their games are tied so deeply into UPlay that they would need to to a lot more than just a simple patch.
Stop acting like cowardly parasites who only b***h, act like adults who participate in society and sue them. Also make organized boycotts with protests both irl and social media, and don't stop until laws are made to protect your rights.
lol gamers are not going to do any of that shit. If there's one thing the video game industry has learned it's that gamers will kick and scream and whine like fricking babies but never take any meaningful action.
Wait am I reading this right?
Consoles are affected as well?
Do the console games use uplay servers to "enhance" gameplay?
Yes. Even a physical copy of the game requires a connection to the DRM server to play. No server = no game.
>buy physical cd
>lmao just kidding bro get fricked still relies on online services
Man I havent owned a console since the PS1. When has this always been the case?
At one point, console games basically just turned into CD you have to put into your console to allow it to download the rest of the game from the net, especially with the amount of day1 patches that we get now.
Trying to play on consoles without access to the net is extremely foolish at this point, except maybe Nintendo, but they've also started relying on huge post-release patches.
Bro since the 10s. Never believe consolegays when they flaint their CDs at you. They're just as cucked if not more.
I don't think it affects single player. It was optional to link to uplay and some people used their 360/PS3 offline. Ubisoft will shut down the online meaning certain achievements will no longer be possible after September and no more multiplayer (removed from the remasters).
>buying ubishit
>buying EA shit
The majority of MILLIONS of gamers buy their games digitally so I fricking doubt they'll just take away our games like you guys are trying to portray. Gamers aren't total sheep's who'll do nothing if such a scenario were to happen. This case is Ubisoft being the shitty company we've known it to be for a decade now.
GOG? The company that caved in to Chinese pressure to remove Devotion, and the developers who lied and scammed consumers with CP77? No fricking thanks lol
It's really interesting if and when this kind of stuff starts happening more. Ubisoft's titles are relatively popular, so this will gain some infamy already. Because if a lot of games that people think they own (even though they're just renting licenses) suddenly start disappearing, it will disenfranchise the common consoomer.
Whether that leads to a riot or a total submission through mental gymnastics remains to be seen. I'm betting on the latter. Just buy the games when they're new bro! Who wants to play something a second time anyway?
If EU court gets involved and goes after Ubisoft, I can see valve scrambling to instantly add in a much needed clause that forces devs to make the game at leasy playable during delisting. Like what they did when games with longstanding steam pages would not release because epic moneyhatted them.
It's really not the first time servers for something were shut down and the people were told to frick off and cry about it.
First time for a lot of IRL newbies maybe but I've seen it before.
Nothing will really be done about it. If you are extremely lucky you'll be able to file for a refund somewhere in a few years, but don't count on it.
I'm so fricking hyped for God of War
I have never bought a single ubishit game in my entire life because they suck.
>Buying a Ubisoft game in the year of our lord 2022
How fricking stupid do you need to be?
They are forcing you to use uplay. You still have the game.
Don't buy their games
you're on fricking PC
>your
That's where you're wrong. I don't buy Ubisoft titles. God imagine being so fricking dumb you give Ubisoft money.
Jesus how embarrassing.
What was the last ubishit game you played?
For me it's Anno the last good franchise they haven't completely assfricked or forgotten yet.
Black flag.
Rayman Legends and i'm currently replaying Rayman Origins
rape all female (women) ubisoft employee
>mfw I don't own a singly Ubisoft game on Steam
>mfw I don't own a single game on Steam
ftfy
Not really.
you will own nothing, you will eat the bugs, and that is a good thing.
very original post, glad you could join us to repeat it for the 50th time itt
goyim deserves nothing
I aint reading that shit
Feels good to have never gotten into Rayman or Prince of Persia back when they were alive and kicking and therefore have no worldly attachment to Ubisoft or anything they've ever made in their entire run as a company.
I remember buying a physical copy of ac2 and not being able to play it because of my shitty internet, Why are we blaming steam for this?
I stopped with ubisoft long ago after my email got hacked and I had to delete that email.
Unfortunately my ubisoft acc (dont even remember making one since i dont really play their shit games) was linked to that. Had a few ubisoft games mainly battlefield games but wanted to give those a play again as it had been years.
Couldn’t play the game because the ubisoft server wanted you to update your pw for safety reasons since it had been years of logging in.
No way to bypass this and since the email associated with that ubi acc was gone. Literally no way to play any of those games i had paid full price for.
No way to sign out and start a new acc. You can make a new ubi acc but there was no way to log out of the old acc through the game. Forever locked in.
Reached out to support and i kid you not in order to get these accs off of my games and console they asked for my:
Home address
Ip Address
Any other emails i might have used
My age and DOB
and the absolute number one thing that i thought was absolutely insane was that they asked for my social security number
Yes this was really ubisoft official support. Not some pajeets in bangladesh
All of that and they still never fixed the problem. Games are locked to this day. That was like 2 years ago but i will never buy a piece of shit ubisoft title again. This just confirms how much of massive fricking israelites these rats are. Adding services like that to games (always online) shit is an immediate red flag and you should never pay for those
Hopefully more people learn the lesson that you should always pirate any game coming out of the west.
Stop Nintendo first, they did it all of this and worse things ten times over. Ubisoft forgot that it's only okay when Nintendo does it.
>Stop Nintendo first, they did it all of this and worse things ten times over.
If it wasn't any more obvious that the people with a vendetta for steam are the same people with a vendetta for Nintendo.
The last ubishart game I bought was AC2 for xbox360, this is what you deserve to be honest
>teehee sorry goy you're not entitled to the game, you should've read our 8276499562859 billion pages term of use, no backsies
>...
>O-OY VEY, MOISHE WHY ARE OUR SALES DROPPING????
What's their endgame with this?
Leftists believe that the establishment dictates what average people (who are obviously dumber than they are) do with their time and money. It's outside of their world view that a company that leaves its footprint on every street corner could commit suicide or become an irrelevant shell of its former self by not spending their money correctly, in spite of countless examples of exactly that. How many Sears do you see around these days? K-Marts? Pan Am flights? Sega consoles?
I'm not dumb enough to buy ubishit so this doesn't affect me, but it does set a dangerous precedent.
>How do we stop them?
Try a class action lawsuit. Complaining on the internet does nothing.
Honestly if you buy games from Ubisoft, EA or Sony that aren't physical you deserve it anyway.
physical copies will stop working too
The don't buy from those three period.
I agree with this statement and want to widen it to encompass all AAA company titles, at least those that come with always on DRM.
NTA but wouldn't that just leave you with indies and Nintendo?
I don't think you understand
You can pirate sure, but it's inherently unsustainable because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures.
>because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures
good thing AAA arent putting out new ventures in the first place
this is also part of that "vote with hour wallet" thing
>You can pirate sure, but it's inherently unsustainable because there's no money going in an out to fund new ventures.
Good. My deepest desire is for all AAA gaming corporations to die and never make a comeback. They are the cancer of entertainment, and nobody would shed a single tear if they were gone forever.
>h-hey, remember MTX, season passes and booster packs?
No. Nobody would remember them fondly. People would spit on their graves.
That's a good thing. Let the abusive AAA industry crash.
As if that would ever happen, but a man can dream.
not that guy but yeah, pretty much.
the good jndies are definitely worth paying for and while nintendo cant be trusted, it can be emulated
the main point is that you should stop wasting your money on entertainment. entertainment is always free, and if you fall for the paypig trap, then you should rethink your life.
I did my part by not buying or even pirating their garbage for years.
simple, there is no stopping them
(you) will never own your games anymore: piracy got ganked and nuked, and now the only one that can pirate denuvo is a deluded psycho who wants ten times the price to pirate it
now corpos can do whatever they want. you own nothing, now be unhappy about it or do something
do you even know how many games have denuvo?
fricking moron
Currently, about 40. Upcoming, a bunch more.
You'll be relegated to old games.
There is a very simply solution to that: I simply won't buy them.
It's not like I need AAA corpo games to survive.
The complete inability of Gankerermin to understand what principles are is both worrying and funny as hell. It's like the human waste browsing this shithole has some brain defect where all thought is terminated and it's running completely of hatred and spite.
>t. bootlicker
How's that water by the way, boiling hot enough for you?
You're proving his point he didn't even say what side he was referring to and you jumped to defend yourself thinking he was referring to you.
passive aggressive b***hing is a distinctive trait of women, lefties, corporate cum addicts and onions addicts.
there's really no reason to act coy
So what you're saying is that this anon
Is a woman.
That's not passive aggressive b***hing tho, that's just aggressive calling out of a little vermin.
Wow, very clearly angry and not even one attempt at a rebuttal. I wonder why that is.
Rebuttal for what?
ok
You're so fricking cool dude
>It's like the human waste browsing this shithole
>paying money for digital games
How much of a moron to you have to be to do this? Either buy physical or pirate. Buying digital is the worst of both worlds
Are you moronic? Physical copies are affected too.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE AWAY SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER MINE NOOOO
I honestly thought when shit like this would happen people would like actually start using their brains, but sadly it's gotten worse
Exactly. People should just shut up and never complain like you, the good little bootlicker.
>WE MUST LE REVEL AGAINST THE LE SYSTEM
Cope more moron. The industry owns you and you're just playing their game
I'm not playing their games tho. I'm simply pointing out that little rats like you are part of the problem.
>if you all could just shut up and never complain!
lmao
what whiny, little bootlickers have become
But you think you're achieving something by complaining here?
You think you're achieving something by complaining about people complaining here?
I say, let the people complain to their hearts content. Let it wash over all online services, let it reach school and workplaces. Let them all get mad.
You on the other hand are content with licking the boot like a good little rat. Your opinion about people complaining? It's worthless defeatist trash.
Ubisoft has shills here so they'll be hearing the complaints.
I'll be sure to remember that when I'm pirating your games. Just kidding, I don't play ubisoft trash.
what other ones are they doing? I bought Rayman Origins and AC2 way back in the day, if I lose them I'll be angry.
don't buy digital games in the first place?
AAA companies hate your entire existence and only see you as living wallets, if you have to play a new game just pirate it instead
I only came to this thread to see the ubisoft shills
If you bought Ass Is Red Liberation, you deserve to have your money stolen.
ubishit are homosexuals but that's steam's fault for allowing this. will probably catch the attention of the EU again
but it's not gamestops and epics fault? just steam? curious...
>but it's not gamestops and epics fault?
Is always their fault, is amusing seeing one of the few times where is also steam's fault and you see steamdrones rushing to defend their corporation
Ah, so it's everyone's fault but the one who did it, Ubisoft? Interesting opinion, sadly, it's completely worthless in light of your personal steam vendetta.
>Steamdrones talking to others about vendetta against some corporation
Ohh im laffin
furries also breathe
you should stop so you're not associated with them
ubisoft damage control in full force (and failing as usual)
Man, some Frenchie should really shoot up Ubishits offices and kill every single person there in Minecraft.
Anyone who liked any ubisoft games in the first place is a straight up moron, and deserves their money stolen.
Remember when Ubisoft sat on Scott Pilgrim for 12 or so years without releasing to PC, then finally released it as an Epic/Ubisofot exclusive and couldn't figure out why its sales were so shit?
Pretty sure this is illegal in most countries unless they're offering refunds.
Nah in their EULA they say they can do whatever they want at any time and that all you buy is a temporary license to play their games as long as they feel like it.
I think it's hilarious that game companies still think it's their product after you purchase their game. Sorry but once there is a transaction of cash it becomes my property
And your property is useless without their servers.
This only applies to online services because servers, no matter what game it is, will inevitably shut down at some point. Preventing you from accessing the licensed material you paid for it illegal, that's why other companies like Adobe don't do it.
Steamtards btfo.
You will own nothing and you will say thank you.
you can buy ubishit games on gog?
You can still play it, but have to use Ubisoft's launcher directly. When you buy a game from Ubisoft on Steam, it's tied to your Ubisoft account. It's registered there. They know you own it. Just like dozens of other publishers that require you to have an account registered with them to play the game on Steam.
This isn't nearly as horrifying as people are making it out to be. Just inconvenient. Pic related. All of these were bought on Steam.
when you launch a ubishit game on steam, it loads the ubishit launcher anyway. like rockstar and calypso. all this does is make it so the game can't be updated on steam. you can add a shortcut to steam manually if your hellbent on launching it from there
READ THIS:
Stop falling for clickbait, you pliable morons.
This is illegal in the first world btw, same law as when Capcom fricked up RE7 for poorgays
There is no way that shit just slides without backfiring. It's starting to make A LOT of noise. They will get slapped in the face one way or another. Most probably EU will act up.
inb4 cope
don't fall for all the bullshit click-bait headlines. you're not going to lose your fricking game. you just have to use the ubisoft launcher instead. which steam boots up anyway when you launch from steam.
I find it funny that they pulled this shit during the AssCreed 15 year anniversary.
By using the old trusty
When companies start pulling this shit, the only thing I want to do is start pirating. Steam is tolerated in part because it’s a monopoly—all your shit is in one place—but also because it lets you do things like delete your shit and then redownload it easily, facilitate modding via Steam Workshop, make multiplayer a bit easier with the overlay, provides user reviews, standardized refund system, and gives you another option for messaging (as well as a bunch of other features like tags, steam groups, screenshots, badges, achievements, trading cards, steam sharing, big picture, market place, etc., that may not always be used/useful but sometimes come in handy.) Take all of this shit away and make it such that it’s no longer easy to just download and delete games in one single place to manage my already fricked disk space (thanks in part to the absolutely insane bloat of games today) and the better, more convenient option becomes piracy because at least it’ll all be in my games folder as opposed to silo’d across 5 different stores that I need to log in to and may or may not let you play offline. Unless your game is quite amazing, it’s really arrogant and moronic for these publishers and developers to think that they can somehow replicate a product that’ll be as good as Steam (look at fricking EGS, completely shit) or add some bullshit additional DRM like israelitePlay.
pretty much this, i can deal with steam, their optional authentication system is braindead to crack when needed and games can be plaayed offline, i draw the line when publishers shove DRM and extra launchers, that is bound to backfire
The funny thing is that Ubisoft could literally just steal a crack and push it through Steam/EGS/Uplay - and let people keep playing their games and DLC.
People also could keep buying those games which means more money for Ubisoft. But the frogs are literally moronic.