this game is the only good attempt at doing something with the genre.
Also it has a lot of Diablo 1 influence in its aesthetics.
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vampire survival clones
I think Brotato and it's clone God Of Weapons are pretty good.
>God Of Weapons
It's trash and really poorly thought out
It's trash
It's troony trash
>Brotato
The only good one. Genuinely a GOOD (protagonist good) game in a world full of evil degenerate trash
the concept of good and evil are judeo-christian constructs
Free Your Mind
>Brotato
>The only good one. Genuinely a GOOD (protagonist good) game in a world full of evil degenerate trash
holy shit you have trash taste, that's one of the absolute worst ones
Decent ones:
Boneraiser Minions
Picayune
Goobies
But VS is still the best because of its build options
I forgor pic
If the game makes you aim attacks with either stick, they fricked up
It's makes sense in this game, it's much more deeper than average VS clone
Have you tried Holocure? Despite being a fangame made mostly by one guy, it's actually surprisingly great.
Vampire Survivors was ok but did nothing interesting
Holocure pretty much brought it to its logical conclusion
Everything else is a waste of time
>one guy
lole
>Holocure pretty much brought it to its logical conclusion
Adding tranime characters to an ADHD symptom stimulator isn't exactly a "logical conclusion" to anyone but weebs, but whatever.
>Interesting enemies and real attack patterns you can dodge
>Better weapons that can be aimed
>True boss fights
>Better progression
>Better items
Anime website btw homosexual
>promised updoot after the other gayme
>still no updoot
i know the guy work for free, but i want playable pekora ffs.
Dude's a literal workaholic that doesnt stop until passing out and he works as an animator for whichever anime wants to hire him, he's deep into the jap work mentality
Nice seeing him upload kinda horny stuff after a stretch of work but he's still stuck in his super moron mentality of "if I go all in on lewds even once I'm not le professional le anymore ;(". Meanwhile half the Jap animators and animation directors he's worked with are drawing porn constantly on the side lol
Just need to lock him up in a basement for a year or so until he finally snaps.
play viking game
I do, it's pretty fun. helga or the israelite are my favorites. otherwise I like the two random characters
nah it's just worse vampire survivors again with 1/8th of the content
deep rock survivor is the only one that tried to add something to the formula, and it's actually challenging
I like all of them but they all suffer from the same issue and its difficulty. Eventually its all about 100% them so getting all achievements and its not about skill or knowledge but doing 1 specific thing to "manipulate" the game, wasting 20-30min and getting what you wanted.
Thats why they are all inferior to a game like isaac, not a bad thing its just that the genre can't grow and its just the same game with different skin.
You didn't play the game in OP, why are you even opening your moronic mouth?
I am convinced you need to be borderline moronic to enjoy these """games"""
This genre is pretty much the only enjoyable thing out of entirety of modern gaming
muscle woman are for homosexuals.
I made this pic but point still stands.
monke maxxing?
>woman are for homosexuals
Nah, It's (You) who've been gay all along.
very true, its a step away from a troony fetish
>inb4 all the homosexuals coping
I enjoy this game, but the designs just don't do it for me. They should appeal to me, but they all feel really mid. Also the elves talking in emoticons actually really grew on me.
DMD is a fun one, takes a couple runs to really sink your teeth in. That being said it feels like half the time you know if a run wins or not if you can survive the 5 minute slimes.
What game?
HoT needs some more work with the skills, like it's super easy to get all of them to work together with some form of fire damage, but ice and lightning get cucked by several of them.
not really true, it depends on the class entirely.
There are also a lot of things not explained about elements so better check the wiki before theorycrafting.
Upgrades are waaaay too boring.
No one has ever cared for +20% to walk speed.
Halls of Torment is quite good. I was going to buy it, but I burned out playing the demo, and wasn't too inspired by the new characters and maps of the full game.
I now came across Death Must Die, which looks good as well, maybe I'll buy that one.
Death Must Die was butchered by the update that added Act 2. The game is just not fun anymore.
I've enjoyed it but I only bought it after act 2 was released. What don't you like about it?
There were strong options that were nerfed in both frequency and power and then there were combos that would trivialize Act 1. I assumed those were be kept just as powerful since Act 2 obviously would be a greater challenge. The interesting way to balance things would have been to bring the auto-skip choices up to the level of the strong options (Justice was completely useless). Instead they brought EVERYTHING DOWN to the lowest level and transferred some of the power you'd be getting from the choices made during a run to the metaprogression you'll find in the skill tree: you're now getting conditioned with lame little increases in power as positive reinforcement after every run. Well, not even every run, since you'll have to kill a boss to gain any skill points and there's a very good chance you won't kill any Act 2 boss without good items and some passive points at the very least, so you get stuck replaying Act 1.
All that being said, the real crime is that the powers and combos that were nerfed were fun as frick. You'd make the right choices and become a black hole that would instantly obliterate anything that would enter your event horizon. Make even smarter choices and nothing could escape since you'd be flying around the entire map at ludicrous speed. Now you might get a glimpse of that every 50 runs or so. Since you already bought the game, you can pirate the pre-patch version guilt free. See if I'm wrong.
Dmd is better
That game (and most of the genre) is bogged down by an obsession with balance and the soullesness of modern developers that think a skill tree or other progression system that gives you 0.7% movement speed and 1.2% attack damage whenever you level up is interesting and engaging.
I've enjoyed Brotato, Death Must Die, Boneraiser Minions. The latter is cool playing as a necromancer
I like Boneraiser Minions but I'm a sucker for necromancy
the music fricking slaps, especially the snow level theme
what gayme?
Goddess of Victory:NIKKE MOG
no wonder i've felt like seen those character before
thx m8.
Soulstone Survivors is the best one and its not close
>turn off graphics
Yep, it's red-circle dodging time.
VS has so many clones it's unreal. Indie devs are massive money chasing homosexuals.
Boneraiser Minions is not a clone, a straight up upgrade!
This one is kinda sit since the best way to play is pick like 2 weapons then autistically min max specific upgrade levels with potions.
Why do they even have 6 slots when you never ever use all 6 weapons.
Not the best way to play, weapons are secondary to other things like items and build in general.
Personally this mogs halls of torment
any signs of a release date on either of these?
Halls of Torment is pretty fun. My favorite is Soulstone Survivors though.
>new game in old genre
>now the face of the genre and all things are considered clones of it
i hate zoomers so much it's unreal
>>new game in old genre
bet you can't name 1 (one) predecessor
SWAT on Warcraft 3
That one got its own video game
>tfw you live long enough to see warcraft 3 maps being remade as shitty indie games and have clueless morons referring to similar games as "clones"
>warcraft 3 maps
These are all Space Invader-likes.
I think this game sucks because the entire game is just making specific builds to hit the achievements. There's no actual goal to reach once you even unlock all the powerful stuff.
There are a lot of things to unlock.
They give you a goal to actually try different shit, I think it's really good idea
I think it sucks because I'm building to check off achievements, I'm not building to kill shit and survive better. The whole appeal of the genre is the power fantasy and halls of torment felt like I'm always waiting to start playing like that but I never really get to.
I think it's great, Instead of just doing same shit over and over and over you HAVE to try all classes, all the playstyles etc.
Games in these genre are so boring and streamlined it's a great way to spice things up
Good game, made by a trannie though
obsessed
Literal Trannie
https://steamcommunity.com/id/aayph
Still good game though
Nordic Ashes was great.
I enjoyed the little bit of Army of Ruin I played but the early game progression is too grindy and slow. I don't know why devs think this is fun.
I tried it but I did not like how upgrades were tied to your weapon, and you had to stockpile several points for upgrades instead of getting an upgrade every level.
the "genre" is gay aids and made for slop consumers
is there some place in game to read what force is or what certain debuffs do?
It's been a hot minute since I fired it up but there is a character screen where you can see stats and what's impacting them. Force impacts penetration and a few other things IIRC. Just search the Steam discussions and there is a post where the dev explains that.
>where the dev
The trannie you mean
just open the wiki and read, it's the only way to understand the damage system
I've been playing a lot of Brotato.
It's literally not. Shit is fricking dull as hell. It has a cool graphic style and that's it.
may as well 'play' an idle game
>everybody talks about the same ~8 titles
>can't stand people having fun
Classic Ganker
Correct. When the "fun" they claim to be having is fake fun or artificial fun and not genuine fun, it is the duty of those of us of higher mental capacity to step in and guide our weaker-minded brethren towards gaming experiences that are not mere dopamine treadmills and skinner boxes.
>t. picrel
bosses got pretty great attack patterns too
you seem to be the only other guy that likes the game.
I didn't expect everyone on Gankereddit to hate it so much
Holocure, death must die, deep rock galatic and halls of torment are good