Sold something like 500k copies, not bad for a gsg title but many potential buyers wait for flavors and better mechanichs. I'm not goin to buy an unfinished game that will have the plug pulled after 2 years
That's some weapons grade copium. CK3 is the game that can become a classic with some tweaking and lots of additional content. Liqui 3 is just badly designed through and through. It would need several years of Stellaris-style major reworks just to become playable, let alone good. At this point it would probably make more financial sense for Paradox to abandon it altogether.
Alright let's try to see how the napkin maths goes. I don't have the US store so I'll work off my currency conversion of $51, and we'll assume none of these sales are going to poorer regions or key shenanigans which always cut lower. >51 * 500,000 = $25,500,000
Now then if we take off Steam's fee, 30% >$25.5m - 30% = $17.85m
Then if we shave off Sweden's VAT, 25% it would seem >17.85 - 25% = $13.3875m
And if we want to do corporation tax, 20.6%, let's just do 20% >13.3875 - 20% = $10.71m
In 2015, Paradox Studio's listed employee count was 80, we don't know if it's changed but let's look at their average salary, 45,100SEK per month, so >45,100 * 12 = 541200, ~$52,058.49, * 80 = $4,164,679.2 or $4,200,000 per annum
So unless on poverty salaries or with half the workforce reported over half a decade ago, $4m per year pay required.
Unless someone enlightened can tell me I'm doing something horribly wrong, that's 2 and a bit years of pay. If we just take it from the Steam's fee bit, $17.85m, that's maybe 4.5 years' pay. And even with that we have to remember this is a for profit company, so the publisher, shareholders and whoever else will want to see those profits, and then remember that company costs aren't simply employs and shareholders either, you have cleaning agencies, IT agencies, land rent, insurance, return fees, legal fees, the unforeseen and whatnot...
... tell me this is still a good number.
Isn't it amazing how much a small company costs? Not joking about that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>45,100 * 12 = 541200, ~$52,058.49, * 80 = $4,164,679.2 or $4,200,000 per annum
Employers also pay social security/payroll taxes directly for each employee so you can add another 30% to that. >So unless on poverty salaries
Search for Paradox Glassdoor scandal. They do underpay their non-managerial staff severely.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They do underpay their non-managerial staff severely.
That explains why Paradox games get worse with each dlc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cool it with the Reddit frog memes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok.
1 year ago
Anonymous
keep posting reddit frog memes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually, it technically doesn't.
Quality is more than throwing money at it.
In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better... whilst the businesses outsource to cheaper and cheaper labour markets. Something that Victoria games have never modelled outside of factory maintenance going up with more laws and eventually going bust, rather than capitalists emigrating or specifically purchasing foreign companies to circumvent this, though maybe that's outside the game's timeframe since the world was still very, very big and not owned by the capitalists yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Actually, it technically doesn't.
I'm guessing that old, once enthusiastic, workers are burning out with time, while low wages are speeding the process. Also since Paradox is being cheap they won't hire new competent stuff.
Whenever I spend $20 on a dlc, after a few minutes I think to myself 'God damn it, they did it again'. 1 or 2 good features, while the overall game-play somehow becomes worse, for $20.
2 years ago
Anonymous
hey now, the gameplay becoming worse is a part of the free update
no-one paid for native superpowers 😀
2 years ago
Anonymous
>In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better... whilst the businesses outsource to cheaper and cheaper labour markets.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Would you mind telling us what these commodities that are getting better are?
Shoes, rubber and synthetic cloth in general
Anything that uses chips or electronics, so phones/tablets/cars/appliances
Wireless, aka we're up to 5G now
Cameras
Do you not touch grass much and still buy the same headphones and Macintosh you bought in the '90s?
2 years ago
Anonymous
they’re poor as frick slavs and sudacas lol they’re not gonna see that shit in their life. plus they think 5g is demonic power summoned by george soros (only half joking)
2 years ago
Anonymous
are the slavs and sudacas in the room with us right now
reminder that you always dodge the question whenever someone asks what your ethnicity is which makes me think you're not even "white" by american standards
could you sound any less upset
[...]
more likely to happen historically than poland or latvia or whatever shithole you’re from becoming a superpower in that period to be honest
polish-lithuanian commonwealth you fricking historylet
2 years ago
Anonymous
>PLC >superpower >almost killed itself trying to subjugate Russia (thrice) >contributed next to nothing to arts and sciences compared to Western Europeans in the same period >most famous for getting gangraped and partitioned over 9000 times
WE WUZ WINGED HUSSARS AND SHIET
2 years ago
Anonymous
more plausible than iroquantioux or whatever the frick being relevant whatsoever since the discussion was about native americans being stupidly OP in the leviathan update for eu4 but you wouldn't know that since you don't actually play gsgs and instead prefer to b***h about random shit in paradox-related threads
god /gsg/ Black folk are a fricking scourge
2 years ago
Anonymous
>t. Russian so ass mad about random Polish noble taking over Moscow and ruling from it, he's celebrating as national holiday Poles packing their toys and leaving on their own after looting the country
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Russian so ass mad about random Polish noble >make any thread on /misc/ at most tangentially related to Russia >two dozen Polish flags appear out of nowhere to fume and seethe
Yeah, dude, it's definitely the Russians who are mad about your non-country and live in your head rent free and not the other way around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>plc >victorian period
esls are actually so dumb
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop projecting your idiocy onto others.
If you follow the chain of replies, you'll note a post about native superpowers.
This is obviously referring to EU4's Leviathan DLC-accompanying update that broke Native Americans to the point where their provinces would have development in the 100s and other ridiculous numbers.
Of course you don't know this because you're a homosexual who only comes here to whine about ESLs ruining the games you don't even fricking play. Also you can form the PLC in vicky 3 lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shoes, rubber and synthetic cloth in general
High-quality footwear is as expensive as ever, no matter if we're talking about dress shoes or outdoor boots. The only thing that's become cheaper are mass-produced sneakers and "hiking gear" put together with spit and wood glue, that falls apart after a season of wearing. >Anything that uses chips or electronics, so phones/tablets/cars/appliances >Wireless, aka we're up to 5G now >Cameras
Virtually all high-end electronics is produced in highly developed countries like Taiwan, Japan or Worst Korea. At most they outsource final assembly to China or SEA shitholes. Moreover the claim of "getting better" is questionable at best. So far this decade we've seen insertion of planned obscolescence into nearly every product on the market, aggresive anti-repair designs, walled garden policies, pervasive datamining, privacy breaches etc etc. So whatever money you save at the checkout will be taken from you tenfold in indirect way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>clothes are expensive or bad
Well I'm not sure how to explain this to you so okay. >electronics are made in ~~*highly developed*~~ east asian countries ~~*that everyone wants to move to so they can be rich and live in luxury*~~, and assembled in shitholes >also because heated seats are now behind digital paywalls, my phone brand only had 8 megapixels in its camera instead of 16, I get tired using my thumb on a touch screen playing flappy bird and would prefer to go back to snake on a phone keyboard, and the fact that bitcoin mining requires the most expensive and advanced kit to be run in coal burning countries...
Forgive me anon but go back three decades, or two, even one, and it'll be a different story. What you can comfortably buy with a western income is insane even though you haven't gotten a better job to be able to afford the top of the line shit made by sunkissed slaves with complimentary Himalayan pink salt.
Generally the only thing to have gone down in quality is food. I wouldn't know if that's because adulterating it is how you deal with more western income mouths to feed or if something else happened. Though we have more cooking oil, soi and avocados than ever before, well, Europeans have more avocados, Americans have had them for a while.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's all Black persontech. What's the point of having the most highest resolution camera on a phone or whatever the frick "insane" things you can buy with a western income if it just breaks after a year so you have to buy the newest model and it completely bricks itself if you try to repair anything?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because you can afford to buy the replacement too?
Everyone does?
That's why the business model works?
I mean, sure, we could all have our Gamecubes and PS2 slims that last for 50+ years when treated well. But we now have literal computer do-everything home entertainment systems masquerading as consoles that won't last (but longer than an Xbox would) but are godly in terms of what they can do compared to the old tech, ignoring things like tolerance for DVD/CD errors.
I understand what you're saying - it's shit for consumers, these things are slowly getting more expensive, people are conned into buy now, pay later loan schemes for iPhone upgrades. But half of this insane tech is magically possible thanks to not paying workers. Even video games are the Black persontech of the programming world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But we now have literal computer do-everything home entertainment systems masquerading as consoles
Yet they are performing worse. Because of programing jobs outsourcing? It has been a canon to say 'hardware is cheaper than programmer's time'.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ultimately, improvements in hardware just means programmers can do shittier and shittier jobs and still get away with it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>programmers can do shittier and shittier jobs and still get away with it.
I'm guessing the gpt-x and copilot will remove the need of those jobs at one point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wagie cagies use computers to tell computer programmers how a thing created by programmers will definitely replace them soon
this will never be not funny
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no you cannot just outsource me to an AI, I need the money for my onions latte
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I've downloaded some software and pressed "generate anime girls" over 50 times >you may now ask me about my incredibly well-informed expert opinions on AI and its code generation facilities
I know (you) couldn't "outsource me to AI" given all the time in the world, angry wageoid. Now bring me my onions latte.
If you were worth a shit as a programmer you wouldn’t be posting on Ganker
Sneethe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you were worth a shit as a programmer you wouldn’t be posting on Ganker
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Yet they are performing worse.
Are you saying that your Gameboy had a better memory, CPU/GPU, ethernet access, DVD/Blu-ray capability, YouTube watching, whatever else.
Or are you saying that because they die fast whilst your Gameboy you threw in a cupboard 20 years ago still works?
Are you blaming programmers for being shit/companies exclusively hiring shit programmers/companies constantly outsourcing DLC work to underskilled mercenary overseas studios? And that because of this your Nvidia powered magic light show with RPG elements is shittier than playing the original DOOM which couldn't handle multiple floors or that cheap as shit indie Roguelikes couldn't hold a candle Rogue the ASCII game where frick all happens?
Could you tell me where we're going with this?
I have no idea what assorted ~~*parentheses*~~ or rambling about flappy bird have to do with your initial point. You surmised that outsourcing to shitholes doesn't bring about qualitative deficiencies in products and now you're extolling the virtues of high-tech products that are designed in Western highly developed countries and manufactured in Eastern highly developed countries.
Can't tell if nationalistic easterner or weeb.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is the same sperg who will swear up and down state capitalism is shit in Victoria 2
1 year ago
Anonymous
What's wrong with it?
I like to play State Capital->Intervention. I can't stand Planned for how I need to pause the game and that I don't actually know how to tell what's profitable beyond liquor and anons keep saying throughput is bad.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Usually its some cope about how you're building a zombie industry and that you should switch to laissez-faire in the latter half of the game, when most people already have fricking won
Any legit criticism will result in whining about how even Vicky 2 is pozzed
1 year ago
Anonymous
And that's why fascism is the best ideology. Because the game is pozzed lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
The zombie industry statement is about economies collapsing when no longer able to subsidize, it has nothing to do with state capitalism or LF or interventionism since subsidies are never forced. The whole zombie industry meme is based off of morons making economies which require subsidies to even survive, and this can be done in any non-LF economy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Could you tell me where we're going with this?
Server sided calculations. You won't have access to real hardware. It's about profit, not about your good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have no idea what assorted ~~*parentheses*~~ or rambling about flappy bird have to do with your initial point. You surmised that outsourcing to shitholes doesn't bring about qualitative deficiencies in products and now you're extolling the virtues of high-tech products that are designed in Western highly developed countries and manufactured in Eastern highly developed countries.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Would you mind telling us what these commodities that are getting better are?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better...
Anon the only sector where you COULD still argue that hedonic quality adjustment is still a thing is electronics. For everything else, the increase in quality has been either negligible or has straight up regressed. There was a time when this was true, now, not so much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sweden's VAT is 25%? I thought it was 20% across all of Europe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I thought it was 20% across all of Europe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Huh - every day's a school day. Thanks fren
1 year ago
Anonymous
Value-added taxes confuse me. Isn't the whole point of economics to add value to things? Why would you punish people for doing that?
1 year ago
Anonymous
VAT is paid by consumers, not producers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>taxes confuse me, it's like they're a punishment for doing well
Taxes are arbitrary and simply a method of raising funds. It's always a punishment for success, so much so that evasion is the new success. You will find people sometimes create small companies they're the only employee of, for personal ventures, simply because corporate tax is lower than the alternative.
Do you have anything more specific you'd like to ask?
>Irelnad
Wikipedia is special.
VAT is paid by consumers, not producers.
Consumers include manufacturers, so technically producers too. Especially considering they consider tax in the final price. I know Americans don't tend to display the after tax price but Europeans do, so the autistic 0.99 requirement on the price tag has to be calculated.
In fact VAT is supposed to be """better""" for producers as it taxes them """less""" than Sales Tax, but ultimately that depends on how much they're being taxed, not how they're only being taxed on the value added at each stage. Like how a poll tax is fine if everyone only pays a cent or penny a year but not if it's triple digits in a strong currency.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I have no idea what your incoherent rambling was supposed to convey, but the cost of VAT is borne fully by the end consumer of the good, exactly the same as with sales tax.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Very well then.
cringe fedora tipping 13 year old trying to explain taxes in some kind of gay anime villain tone
M'lady.
Sorry, you'll never be one. M'mister.
dude, you don't know how the frick VAT works. lol
just crazy how many barely educated people with qualifications from the school of /misc/ and badly skimming wikipedia articles are content to spout out brainfarts as loudly as possible to anyone who will listen
>everyone who disagrees with me or irks me is one person
mind of a child
You could explain VAT yourself then.
onion lattes, just imagine
A latte has layers, like an ogre.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You 100% are overweight and have breathing issues, I can just tell from the typing style
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
nerve struck fatty
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fat
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fat
1 year ago
Anonymous
>i can tell what you look like from how you type
cool it with the racist and antisemitic remarks
1 year ago
Anonymous
cringe fedora tipping 13 year old trying to explain taxes in some kind of gay anime villain tone
1 year ago
Anonymous
dude, you don't know how the frick VAT works. lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
just crazy how many barely educated people with qualifications from the school of /misc/ and badly skimming wikipedia articles are content to spout out brainfarts as loudly as possible to anyone who will listen
1 year ago
Anonymous
just crazy how many barely educated people with qualifications from the school of /misc/ and badly skimming wikipedia articles are content to spout out brainfarts as loudly as possible to anyone who will listen
holy shit can you make your samegayging any more obvious
you should just stop trying entirely
why the mods haven't permabanned you from this board for consistently ruining every thread you visit and never talking about strategy games at all aside from b***hing about people liking "le pop history tanks battles!!!" and then displaying a comical lack of knowledge about history yourself
1 year ago
Anonymous
>everyone who disagrees with me or irks me is one person
mind of a child
1 year ago
Anonymous
if you all talk like one another, believe in the same things and get pissed off by the exact same things you are effectively the same person
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Irelnad
1 year ago
Anonymous
You pay taxes after all expenses have been paid so you need to deduct wages before calculating taxes. Also, you deduct 20% VAT, since you add 25..
It's not the end of it.
Every Paradox game starts off shit and gets better over the years. The average player count goes up with every expansion during the game's lifecycle. Look at any other game.
People can cope and seethe about it taking 2 years to not be shit but the player count will go up. The only exception was Imperator, and this game isn't Imperator.
I feel great. After a game of Vicky 3 my intestines have been completely flushed out. Sure, my floor is covered in splatters of congealing feces from all the VIOLENT DIARRHEA, but that is a small price to pay for such an exciting game!
Did they not have enough bourgeoisie feminist women leading the communist and fascist parties in game?
Were worker cooperatives, a late 20th century economic concept, not strong enough?
Was it too racist with assimilation mechanics?
Could you not achieve fully automated gay space communism?
>let's have people who identifiably hate everything about western civilization, history, and empire, design a game about western civilization, history, and empire
>Made this exact picture with the exact same name but the faces were in different orders. >Guy makes this picture after mine gets his immortalized.
Frick this gay site.
>but why are you mad about their faces
They seem to be insufferable. I wouldn't want to drink a beer with them, and I won't waste hours to play their vision of game. But that's just my opinion.
Where do you all lower case people come from and why do you act like a hivemind (assuming you're not a samegay)? Is this what stage 5 leftism does to a man?
It's literally just the same guy you fricking schizo
1 year ago
Anonymous
schizo
Well last time I accused him of samegayging he also called me a schizo for assuming everyone I disagree with is the same person.
I can't win with this fricking Black person. This absolute charcoal black, blue gummed, fricking monkey.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why do you think only one person thinks you're a moron?
ive no clue who you are and im the one who you just accused of being a "stage 5 leftist"
what in my fricking posts triggered you?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Because when all the people who think I'm a moron have the exact same typing style it makes me think it's actually just one guy
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why do shitposters refuse to adopt a set of coherent beliefs and instead just say whatever they think will make autists mad?
You're legitimately moronic.
>>let's have people who identifiably hate everything about western civilization, history, and empire, design a game about western civilization, history, and empire
Same, am waiting for the inevitable barrage of DLC's to come and put the content it needs to be good, the game has a good foundation with how the economy and politics work but needs more content (especially in the political part as I barely look at how the IG's changed in the last 50 years) and the AI needs to be less moronic and actually develop their economy, being able to buy a stockpile of non-perishable goods would be nice too.
To answer your question, it's one incredibly persistent homosexual that's possibly from /gsg/ arguing with the voices in his head, catching everyone else in the crossfire meanwhile.
Are you coping with some kind of trauma that causes you to lash out at random people in paradox-related threads >NOOOO YOU HAVE TO REPLY THE WAY I WANT YOU TO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>pls give me your personal information
you're about 12 years off btw
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>pls give me your personal information
i don’t think you even realise or can ever really comprehend how autistic and socially clueless this sounds
2 years ago
Anonymous
He’s calling you immature not actually asking you for “personal information” you spaz
ez replies
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao ok sperg
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm sure all 10 users of this board saw everything you posted here and clapped. Where the hell do you people even come from? Why is there a surplus of catty, sarcastic people here who sperg out if you say something they disagree with politically?
2 years ago
Anonymous
calm down moron
you're literally american dude i don't know how to break it to you but you're probably descended from ir*sh or g*rmans
terminally boring Ganker banter zzz cba
2 years ago
Anonymous
>terminally boring Ganker banter >when he himself started rambling incoherently about ethnicity autism
holy shit can you be more of a coward
2 years ago
Anonymous
you’re just even more of a non person than most people here and just not very interesting to talk to sorry
2 years ago
Anonymous
can you maybe quit LARPing as an actual limp-wristed lisping homosexual for five minutes
2 years ago
Anonymous
nerve struck
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nobody cares about your catty little jabs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
could you sound any less upset
hey now, the gameplay becoming worse is a part of the free update
no-one paid for native superpowers 😀
more likely to happen historically than poland or latvia or whatever shithole you’re from becoming a superpower in that period to be honest
2 years ago
Anonymous
He’s calling you immature not actually asking you for “personal information” you spaz
im not him i just joined a stupid argument to post a chinlet pic i have
but to you i say "why are you so emotionally invested in attacking a paradox title"
Despite what they've said, it's just a bit more moddable than Victoria 2. You may have UI mods, AI mods and alternate histories, along with some extra content, but that's it. War goals are unmoddable, SFX is unmoddable, there's only one bookmark, there's no documentation etc. Some mods add custom buildings, but they're not as popular because they don't work with the AI mod. There's no scripted GUI either, meaning that you have to work with the in-game systems, but these systems have piss poor moddability. They've also tailored the game to work exactly like a 19th century simulator with weird quirks like no land actually being empty, so you're out of luck on TCs.
I sincerely apologize for linking to Reddit, but here's an explanation by the Russian voodoo AI mage.
> You know the story. Release patch (which was already 1.0.3) was quite problematic, with three hotfixes required to make it bearable. Then we got patch 1.1 with 4 dev diaries to hype it up that fixed and broke the game in roughly equal proportions. First hotfix was underwhelming, but then the second one was actually quite good... except it broke AI even further than before.
> Patch notes contain a "we improved how AI invests in ports" in three parts, and as the result AI-controlled Britain and France have around 150M GDP in 1900s, often even lower. Not even talking about smaller coastal nations. These "improvements" led to AI prioritizing nothing but ports, only to then delete all of them after going bankrupt, surprising Canada and Australia players with no market access. Meanwhile Austria is stronger than ever, as having a relatively small number of port slots made it free from this disease.
> Now, as the author of a well-known AI mod (that is free of all this nonsense), I can honestly say I don't like ports. They require the most complex logic out of all the buildings due to the amount of functions they have. And that's exactly why you don't mess with said logic at this scale if you are not sure it'll work properly and are not planning to release patches anytime soon!
> Usually I'm not the one to start this shit cause it all is not as simple as you would think, but I don't know what else to say... has anyone tested this, like it all? I mean, it happens nearly every game from the get go, how did this make it into release 1.1.2 build?
Thanks, that explains it... In my game Brits were playing pretty decently for a while (I think I carried them a bit by playing East Indian Trade Company) until they too, fell behind Austria in GDP
>And that's exactly why you don't mess with said logic at this scale
They've fricked the game multiple times with patches already, it's clear they don't test anything.
>Gankerners all pirated CK2 and the DLC and openly boasted about it >redditors who love incest maymays and wacky-looking characters all bought the game and DLC and supported it
CK3 was never going to turn out any other way
Game has near zero flavor events or chains. Pretty much all events stems from technologies which is boring. Also migration system needs tweaking. Trying to play Greece the Peloponesseus will depopulate when you want to turn it into a resource factory for wood/iron and people will still leave to go be peasant farmers in the capital because capital market modifier.
Migration is fricked overall. New world nations like USA get jack shit of migration, unless they adopt multiculturalism, which opens the flood gates to african tribesman to immigrate en masse, although even after that most of them still go to France/UK. I honestly think old world countries should be locked out of open immigration until at least the 1900s. Same for multiculturalism and feminism.
African countries having access to markets, especially landlocked ones is moronic. A landlocked country should not be sending immigrants at all overseas.
Pops from "decentralized" and "unrecognized" polities should probably be disallowed from emigrating entirely, though an exception could be placed on some like China. Or they would need a certain SOL and an access to a port.
China shouldn't send any and should have no immigrants sent unless your country wins a war to open market. But open market ideally would work as a country-by-country basis. Market not open to you? No immigrants sent your way. China should automatically start with closed markets to everyone, except for those who get a treaty port. Perhaps it might be best tied up with the politics decisions, I dunno.
>China shouldn't send any and should have no immigrants sent unless your country wins a war to open market
I agree from the gameplay and balance standpoint, although historically that wasn't the case.
1 year ago
Anonymous
In the case of China they had a full on collapse of the government before they started sending immigrants out to south america. Many arrived to the US but the US also benefited from the treaty port wars in China. US didn't have to fight for one, China just ceded it rather than fight for it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>In the case of China they had a full on collapse of the government before they started sending immigrants
Didn't the emigration start before that though, around 1810-20?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The Taiping Rebellion in the 1860s caused a metric Black person frickload to come over.
Akshually it was really easy to migrate back in the 19th century and any African tribespeople could do it, they just didn't want to.
t. That moron from an earlier thread
It's true though. The game just completely fails to simulate cultural/ethnic tensions and language barriers (among ither things) so the abstractions in place don't really satisfy any comparison with reality. It's also why immigration is broken in the game, because there aren't enough details to properly simulate the movement of pops across nations and states
1 year ago
Anonymous
>because there aren't enough details to properly simulate the movement of pops across nations and states
But anon, literally anyone could go anywhere in their millions back in the Victorian era.
If Nepal adopted multiculturalism and flung open their doors, Caribs, Serbs and Rhodesians would have all flocked there to work in clothes factories and become Nepalese.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I remember doing a summer job at a museum and reading Victorian accounts of English workers and Irish workers having mass brawls and race riots in Victorian Middlesbrough
The English were an amalgam of English and Scots who had previously fought one another
The descendants of those English, Scots and Irish, all considering themselves English, were collectively fricked over and demoralised by deindustrialization and only scattered groups of skinheads extend the traditional greetings to new communities of South Asians and Eastern Europeans. I assume the descendants of the English, Irish, Scottish, Polish and Lithuanians who call themselves English will carry on the traditional beatings and hostility to incomers in their own way. The Asians are a bit more like the Ashkenazi - an obvious and endogenous minority who speak a slightly accented version of the language and who stick to their own. Their may be ovens and persecution in their future if shit goes south
History = rhymes etc etc
1 year ago
Anonymous
>History = rhymes
das right istory is black!
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm going to guess you have issues with timekeeping because you seem pretty tardy
I can't get past UI of CK3 to even try it out properly. I don't know, maybe I lost patience as I got older. Teenager me find no problem with CK2 and I'm used to it by now, but CK3 just seems annoying. Maybe one day...
homie it's aesthetically a mobile game, just add a gem or whatever the frick premium currency counter somewhere in the top right
why are EOPs fixated on defending a shitty Swedish game anyhow, Swedes speak Swedish by default and therefore are subhuman by their twisted logic
Since the thread has once again devolved into a flame war, it can be safely concluded the game is utter shit.
No discussion of tactics, build more buildings to get green line go up. How to achieve WC? You just do its piss easy. Getting good at war? Lol no, warfare is an absolute mess and there is for some unholy reason only a single battle per front.
Any guesses how low the vic 3 playercount will go? I'm betting below Victoria 2 if paradox can't push patch 1.2 and 1.3 out fast enough.
i like the new population mechanics, though they can use some work
the new war system can be moronic but i feel like if perfected it can be really realistic but we are probably not getting that without a DLC
the factories are fun, id love more chances to invest in other countries and whatnot
diplomacy is ok, better than vicky 2 but is still shit
The game is literally just a cookie clicker and nothing else.
The population mechanics make no sense for a game set in the Victorian era. Multiculturalism being a government policy in an era that was defined by it's nationalism is just downright moronic and globohomosexual goyslop.
Factories require far too much tedious micromanagement which sucks all the fun out of them unlike Vicky 2
AI doesn't even work without the mod and will cause countries like Britain and France to self destruct
And don't even get me started on multiplayer...
that's good for you that you think like that
im enjoying myself
>shilling during the New Year
Thought sw*des had better labour laws than that
IS THAT AN OPINION I DONT AGREE WITH?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>im enjoying myself
Sure you are shill
1 year ago
Anonymous
you sound like a child anon
1 year ago
Anonymous
You need to go back
1 year ago
Anonymous
been here since 2010, eat my ass newbie
1 year ago
Anonymous
You don't fool anyone
Your not fitting in here
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hello ESL.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Of course it was the ESL obsessed troony that was shilling for vicky 3 again
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hello ESL.
Of course it was the ESL obsessed troony that was shilling for vicky 3 again
that wasn't me but yeah you do sound like an ESL in that post
1 year ago
Anonymous
There's always one shill in every Vicky 3 thread and it's always him
1 year ago
Anonymous
dude, there is lots of "shills" for victoria 3
this isn't a fricking echochamber
people are allowed to have different opinions
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ok wiz
1 year ago
Anonymous
what do i call you though ive no clue
a popular youtuber that hates victoria 3 maybe?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I can tell who you're seething about without you even namedropping him lol
How does it feel that he was right about v3 and no amount of copium about mods or DLCs fixing it will change that.
Especially since Paradox (intentionally?) crippled modding and their recent DLC track record has been less than stellar. Hello Leviathan, Royal Court, Fate of Iberia, Friends and Foes, By Blood Alone, etc etc
1 year ago
Anonymous
ive actually no clue who that is lol
i just said it in a way "maybe there is a youtuber i can use like you use wiz"
Perhaps nationalism was high due to the immigration. Apparently immigration peaked during this time period. Though it was mostly europeans immigrating.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was basically only Europeans immigrating to the new world
Victoria 2 reflects this better where as Victoria 3 goes full globohomosexual and has non europeans colonizing UK and France like they are in 21st century
1 year ago
Anonymous
how did victoria 2 reflect it better
all it did was add a migration pull modifier
if you turn it into a state, they will migrate to other parts of your country lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
wtf are you going on about you schizo
in vic 2 it was virtually impossible to get immigrants if you weren't a new world country
which is a better depiction of the reality then vic 3
1 year ago
Anonymous
you can use tech and focuses to focus internal migration into your country
meaning if you had a colony and turn it into a state then people in it will migrate back and forth with your other states
people magically get converted into british people due to assimilation
1 year ago
Anonymous
>meaning if you had a colony and turn it into a state then people in it will migrate back and forth with your other states
It was pretty difficult to turn a colony in Africa into a state unless you had a mod that made it super easy
1 year ago
Anonymous
I mean, one of the biggest influences for immigration to the new world is the abundance of land but that's pretty difficult to model outside of fat bonuses. But who knows, maybe Victoria 4 wil have land prices and model ownership so new world governments can sell off land at cheap prices to entice people to move.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>fat
flat
1 year ago
Anonymous
Victoria 4 would be like the Einstein quote about WW4 being fought with sticks and stones.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Paradox are not gonna make another Victoria game after fricking up so hard on this one
It's why everyone is super mad at wiz for failing to make even a passable Victoria game
1 year ago
Anonymous
good
1 year ago
Anonymous
>wiz singlehandedly kills the vicky franchise
Why is Paradox's management so fricking stupid?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Because anyone with talent has either left or doesn't give a shit anymore (Johan)
Now the only people who work at paradox are interns and diversity hires
1 year ago
Anonymous
they're literally the same devs you coping homosexual
1 year ago
Anonymous
post a venn diagram of devs who worked on 2 and 3 then
1 year ago
Anonymous
Prove it then you troon homosexual
1 year ago
Anonymous
top kek mein bruder the kekked troons are sneeding and woking as we say on Ganker
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah look the ESL obsessed troony s is here to derail yet another thread
1 year ago
Anonymous
Another rage fuelled report confirmed
1 year ago
Anonymous
bye bye troony
1 year ago
Anonymous
Mad?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wiz stop shitposting and go back to fix the mess you made
1 year ago
Anonymous
how did victoria 2 reflect it better
all it did was add a migration pull modifier
if you turn it into a state, they will migrate to other parts of your country lmao
also keep in mind, "assimilation" in victoria 2 might have hid from you the fact that Black folk are migrating to the UK
just cuz they speak english doesn't mean their skin color changed
1 year ago
Anonymous
The only way to have joggers immigrate to your country in Vic 2 was to conquer a part of Africa and then change it from a colony to a state (which was very difficult as you had to get a load of your accepted culture pops to move there)
In Vic 3 all you need is one law to get blacked
1 year ago
Anonymous
>one law to get blacked
i don't know why that made me laugh
but yes, im just saying that victoria 2 anyone assimilated can migrate anywhere and colonies can assimilate randomly
1 year ago
Anonymous
>colonies can assimilate >Well first you need to get enough accepted culture pops and bureaucrats to state it and then have coreless Black person pops but they'll black you eventually I promise!
Why are there so many schizo types on this fricking board god damn go back to /gsg/
1 year ago
Anonymous
also if you are cursed (or blessed) to be in the new world
you have no control over that migration
1 year ago
Anonymous
Some mods let you close the border but that was it
There needed to be an option to only allow in Europeans
1 year ago
Anonymous
do you really thinks europeans liked each other back then
euros viewing themselve as one race is a myth especially for that time period
1 year ago
Anonymous
Amerimutts hated irish but they were still allowed in
1 year ago
Anonymous
Amerimutts had some pretty based takes about other Europeans
1 year ago
Anonymous
i always found those funny
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is photoshopped, I'm pretty sure the original sign was talking about the North American Pavement Ape
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah that's a shame
ESLs would never t have recovered from this otherwise
1 year ago
Anonymous
There are non-slavs with English as their second language you obsessed moron.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hello ESL.
1 year ago
Anonymous
My name's not ESL, kid.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was talking about Japanese people, WW2-era amerisharts absolutely despised Japs after Pearl Harbour
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah that's a shame
ESLs would never t have recovered from this otherwise
Looks instead like it was a sign for nips.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So I've likely seen an edited version too
Funny how that works
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nothing on the internet is real.
Sometimes nothing on the TV is real either. >Funny how that works
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ho Ho! Another “based schizo” as we are called I see? ;D
I knew that it's going to be bad but wanted to see how bad it is, it's actually really horrible and much worse than ck3
>the new war system can be moronic but i feel like if perfected it can be really realistic but we are probably not getting that without a DLC
let's see:
no logistics at all, no issue with sending troops to other side of the world
if troops get encircled they just teleport back home without extra losses
if general dies while being on front troops just teleport back to HQ and it will take them weeks to come back to the front
front size doesn't make sense, Russia-Qing is one 5000+km front
only one battle per front at once, despite having tons of generals and troops
everything is sloooow, enemy having a general with 1 battalion will slow down "advancing the front" stage by 50%
battles are extremely slow, one could think that when one side has 10k troops and another has 500 left, they would surrender but no, they will fight until the last man and their losses per day decrease with the number of men, battles usually lasts for week and even you have 10k troops they can't take a single province until the last "defender" is eliminated
defeating a native uprising with 2000 troops takes more than a year during which you can't start wars
naval warfare is joke, battles also last for weeks and the battle window is counting men instead of ships (they didn't even bother to change that)
intercepting or defeating naval invasion should give heavy losses to attacker but no, forces just teleport back unscratched
you can write the same about economy, population, internal politics etc.
it's over, you can't salvage it without a complete rewrite and it's not going to happen
the pop mechanics are actually worse than vic2, how the frick does it make sense that each level of factories need exactly 600 capitalists? Why can't capitalists just exist like in vic2 and gain wealth by expanding factories while retaining their share of wealth/ownership? Why is it so easy for peasants to move to work in factories? Why does building more barracks cause more enlistment, rather than enlistments putting pressure on existing barracks? POPs being so intrinsically tied to buildings makes POPs worthless on their own. They have no agency since every pound they earn, every job they get, every single promotion they recieve, is all because the player clickedd a button to build a building. They do nothing without player intervetion. How the frick is that any good?
I remember sometimes looking at the pop list in victoria 2 just to see how my country is developing. Small amount of primary pops immigrating to colonies, overall number of craftsman rising, literacy rates going up and people going militant or not due to fulfillment of their needs. It felt like your country was slowly but surely improving. Now with how promotion mechanics work in vic 3, the only thing I ever cared for was the number of peasants and unemployed in any of my states.
I remember sometimes looking at the pop list in victoria 2 just to see how my country is developing. Small amount of primary pops immigrating to colonies, overall number of craftsman rising, literacy rates going up and people going militant or not due to fulfillment of their needs. It felt like your country was slowly but surely improving. Now with how promotion mechanics work in vic 3, the only thing I ever cared for was the number of peasants and unemployed in any of my states.
[...]
I never played vicky2, most of my time in paradox games is on ck2, I really didn't understand what I was supposed to do on vicky3 >expanded buildings >researched tech >selected optimal production methods >grew my economy
But after all these things... I really didn't know what else there was to do, diplomacy and war seem completely pointless, colonisation seems shit unless you're one of the nations with a really strong start.
I also had the best Standard of Living in the world, over 50% higher than the next best country but nearly every one of my pops was rebelling because of minor recessions.
I wanted to like the game but it's slow, runs like shit and there is frick-all to do, it really did feel like an idle clicker/mobile game
Yeah, never played Vic 2 but I always heard how it was Paradox best game or something like that, when Vic 3 got announced I was looking forward to see a modernized Vic 2 and what it was all about but after pirating it and playing for 2 hours as Belgium I was very disappointed, was this the amazing gameplay I heard about? Looks like those mobile games where you click stuff so you can click some more, it was so goddamn boring
I'm still debating myself if I should try it again or just free that space on my hard drive and download Vic 2 instead to see the original with my own eyes
I think it was meant to be a mobile game and they changed it to the next Victoria game. Whatever the case, it's clearly rushed, as the base game was released with next to nothing and doesn't look finished.
They literally infest the entire vic 3 community you fricking homosexual
Only a mentally insane troon is capable of thinking vic 3 is a good game
1 year ago
Anonymous
im convinced you don't have a frontal lobe
1 year ago
Anonymous
this is peak ESL derangement
i see why people from poor countries are laughed at on here now
1 year ago
Anonymous
just imagine
he went out of his way to go to discord and find anyone with a flag that annoyed him and then compiled a screenshot
1 year ago
Anonymous
this is probably the final stage of paradox troony obsession before igor finally puts on his grandmas frock and takes pictures
1 year ago
Anonymous
Stop replying to yourself homosexual
1 year ago
Anonymous
howdy ESL
1 year ago
Anonymous
>ESL
Tell me you're troony without saying "I'm a troony"
1 year ago
Anonymous
mad? gonna cry, ESL?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Stop replying to yourself homosexual
hello esl
1 year ago
Anonymous
howdy ESL
I'm rather be an ESL then a troony homosexual
cope and seethe troon
1 year ago
Anonymous
you will never be an EFL
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why would I want to be an EOP troony?
Please come up with a better insult or frick off back to troonycord
1 year ago
Anonymous
>person from low IQ poor ESL country blames all his problems on trannies/gays/etc
many such cases
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hello ESL
1 year ago
Anonymous
Absolute ESL meltdown
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you gay? Do you suck dicks?
1 year ago
Anonymous
No I'm not a troony
1 year ago
Anonymous
dios mio
1 year ago
Anonymous
NTA and hate trannies as much as the next chud, but I'm fairly certain there's various non-troony consoomers and people who've sunk a lot of time into paradox and thus keep deluding themselves into thinking the new releases are good who are defending it, along with shitposters and lib types who feel contractually obligated to defend the game for reasons that elude me
1 year ago
Chud
Based and chudpilled
1 year ago
Anonymous
praise kek mein bruder
1 year ago
Anonymous
You aren't funny or even annoying
A truly meh post
I think there's one person having a meltdown here, and it's the guy who's letting ESLRepublicanSecretTranssexualPolandball/r/historymemesBrowserAutists live in his head rent free.
It's a wonder people are actually still playing and I say this as a quasi Paradrone Vic 3 defender. Matter of fact, the game is broken, barely playable and nothing but a fricking meme in late game.
Doing a bit of research here.
If you dont mind just answer the following question by choosing one of the answers.
When playing Victoria 3 do you:
(a) Have a sudden and unexpected bowel movement which forces a dash for the toilet?
(b) Drop a long stinky turd down your pants which thankfully gets snagged around your knees before it hits the carpet?
(c) Let rip with EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA which splatters LIQUID SHIT all around the room?
(d) Dunno, my arse got torn to shreds and I'm now in hospital getting a rectum transplant. I dont remember anything.
Today I played victoria 3 and a idle clicker game, in both games I basically watched and kept clicking build buttons. The idle clicker game had more different strategies I could play with and was more fun overall
I never played vicky2, most of my time in paradox games is on ck2, I really didn't understand what I was supposed to do on vicky3 >expanded buildings >researched tech >selected optimal production methods >grew my economy
But after all these things... I really didn't know what else there was to do, diplomacy and war seem completely pointless, colonisation seems shit unless you're one of the nations with a really strong start.
I also had the best Standard of Living in the world, over 50% higher than the next best country but nearly every one of my pops was rebelling because of minor recessions.
I wanted to like the game but it's slow, runs like shit and there is frick-all to do, it really did feel like an idle clicker/mobile game
The frick is ESL syntax you shitposting gremlin
Can't wait for the Swedish holiday season to end and for these kinds of posts to disappear for some strange reason
If the game sold 500k copies, how come the all-time peak is 69,663 players? That's accounts for only 14% of buyers. Did the rest just buy the game at full price to let it collect dust?
Feels vaguely insulting even just being talked at by someone who's from a nationality that is culturally and genetically inferior in all forms compared to mine
yeah if I was using polish to english google translate to use this website, then that sentence would be a mystery to me too
1 year ago
Anonymous
holy projection, thats another clunky sentence lmao.
1 year ago
Anonymous
ESLs have no clue what the word projection means and just repeat it mindlessly like autistic children with echolalia
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just like how you mindlessly repeat phrases that've been used against you in the past? Praise kek mein terminally unfunny, /r/politicalcompassmemes redditor, ESL-obsessed friend.
Relax dude! The more you relax the more your anal sphincter will open! You will be able to take both your grandfathers at the same time! All while playing Victoria3! Maximum anal pleasure!
muh anything that isn't the result of a calculator is railroading
aka, we'll sell you the far east expansion in 2 years which includes the boshin wars and unique korean colonization mechanics. there will also be some barebones chinese rebellion mechanics that will later be completely overwritten by the new and improved Revolutions(tm) dlc only 29.99
Why do the jannies allow this ESL obsessed Iphone troony to derail every fricking thread because he can't stand seeing the word troony
Fricking get your shit together
>Why do the jannies allow this ESL obsessed Iphone troony to derail every fricking thread because he can't stand seeing the word troony
They're part of the same clique
the fact this thread is always nothing but moronic bait should tell you enough, the game is built of a broken concept and boils down to clicking around to upgrade factories, everything that made victoria 2 the flawed but loved game that it was is absent in the "sequel", unless they overhaul it completely it has no hope.
the only way to fix it would be to make another game, the whole mindset of the game is flawed
its like hoi4: economy is boring, politics are boring, diplomacy is boring, and instead of passable warfare game you have the pic of two generals standing to each other making goofy faces
So wait and come back until paradox releases their mandatory dlcs before trying this game. It is a shame.
I still can't believe how slow they are with fixing the game or doing anything with it. It is almost the exact same scenario as total war(hammer), which has its fanbase dwindling into nothingness.
Pic related, pretty much all of the critics during the development are vindicated.
the only way to fix it would be to make another game, the whole mindset of the game is flawed
its like hoi4: economy is boring, politics are boring, diplomacy is boring, and instead of passable warfare game you have the pic of two generals standing to each other making goofy faces
>The first scene in their post release """reactions""" (paid for) video is of a soiboi being excited that a meme 'Jan Mayen' country near iceland is the first communist country ever in 1856, led by le hecking Karl Marx
Vicky Bros! Did you know that Victoria 3 is now being used in hospitals? That's right! Before any bowel surgery it is important the fecal matter is completely cleaned out. Instead of colon flushes, enemas, and fasting, patients can now just play Victoria 3 and the sheer excitement will completely empty their intestines! Violent rectum spasms which ensure spotlessly clean buttholes! ( I hears gays are getting into the benefits of playing Vicky 3 too! )
>game has been out for two months >modding wiki is mostly empty
It's over
1 year ago
Anonymous
what would you mod?
you can't change base mechanics
you can't even make new UI elements
1 year ago
Anonymous
top kek mein bruder hope one day based autist modders mod out troony commie economy and commie interest group system and 3 button war !
1 year ago
Anonymous
Work Wiz, you lazy piece of shit
1 year ago
Anonymous
What drives you to make embarrassing posts like this?
1 year ago
Anonymous
They posted here also
[...]
and have been posting like this since near the beginning of the Vicky 3 marketing cycle.
Trying to strawman the chud boogie man under their bed who is a Polish ESL who hates transfolx apparently
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't you know modding is racist? Or otherwise totally ableist, exposing paradox for the incompetent morons they are.
top kek mein bruder hope one day based autist modders mod out troony commie economy and commie interest group system and 3 button war !
You know full well this game is dead, just like this thread.
You've beenin every thread since launch calling anyone critical of vic3 an ESL.
Is it all done for (You)s, or are you severely autisitic? I'm genuinely curious.
Around the world countless people who suffered from severe constipation are thanking Paradox for making Victoria 3. They pushed a few buttons, became excited, and now their anal passages are squeaky clean! ( Just a shame about all the HOT SHIT they squirted out into their pants, lol! )
I really cant tell anymore. Is the poo anon mocking the people who say vicky3 is good, or does he really think it is good, but has a rather weird way of saying so?
What the frick even is an ESL? Is it like a Nazi for leftists or a commie for rightists? A boogeyman term that can be applied to anyone regardless of actual English proficiency?
No.. Firstly there is nothing to be gained by posting on Ganker. No upboats. On a highly niche and barely used slow moving board. Secondly based poos poster's comments are never directed at anyone. I believe he is just poo posting for the sake of pooing .I dont think he really has an opinion on the game either way.
He’s mocking the treads themselves, rather. Pooposting only really became a thing a few months after the war dd and a little before launch, likely as a regular shitpost at first. The problem is, by that point in time pretty much all discussion of vic3 was exhausted so the pooposts were basically the only actually interesting thing about those threads. The reason he’s still here is because discussions keep on looping back to the same stuff. There’s nothing new. It’s all the same shit. So why not add a little more shit to these threads?
Hard agree. I believe the poos poster ( or posters, might be more than one ) is just applying the old saying about a barrel of cream and a barrel of shit. If you add a drop of cream to a barrel of shit you have a barrel of shit. If you add a drop of shit to a barrel of cream you have a barrel of shit.
Does this game frick up Chrome for anyone else? If Vicky 3 crashes it makes my browser freeze and behave in odd ways (I can't open new tabs, but current ones keep working). I've never seen a game do this.
Well, that's it, I tried way more than I should have to make this shit game at least runnable an entire playthrough, but no matter what, the performances always go to shit.
Pic related: 0 cultural fragmentation, very minor religious fragmentation most areas are 100% catholic, some are 100% buddhist, but for some unknown reason some rare places are still fragmented), but the game still freeze at every week turn, and adding buildings to the queue takes a few seconds every click.
I'm guessing, without certainty, that the simple fact that the pop works in different farm/factories fragment them, and hence ruin the performances.
Idk why I tried to make it work, even if the performances were better the game is still shit, but for real I don't understand how anyone, out of QA, devs, youtube shills, "video game journalists" or redditors, played more than a handful of hours and think "this is fine".
Monsieur... je m'agenouille... >the simple fact that the pop works in different farm/factories fragment them, and hence ruin the performances
This would seem to be the main reason, along with the calculations for internal migration.
Have you tried deleting most buildings so you'll just have one mega building for each factory and plantation? This should at least in theory improve the performance after all the internal migration settles down. Did you do this with your mod that gives and removes homelands? Would you mind sharing it?
>Have you tried deleting most buildings so you'll just have one mega building for each factory and plantation?
Nope nope nope. Every click takes 5-6 seconds to register, even ctrl+click only delete them 10 by 10, so just for coal mines, that's 990 clicks, >80 minutes.
>Did you do this with your mod that gives and removes homelands? Would you mind sharing it?
Not so much a mod as >open 00_states.txt >search the regex "add_homeland = .+" >replace it all with add_homeland=<your next run culture>
tbh it probably frick the balance a bit, but who cares. >go to 00_define.txt for good measure >add a few 0 to ASSIMILATION_RATE, MIN_ASSIMILATION, CONVERSION_RATE and MIN_CONVERSION >hey waiting for war exhaustion to tick up is boring >pump up WAR_EXHAUSTION_OCCUPATION_FACTOR to 20 to halve the time it take to wait for ooga booga to surrender >Since we want to minimize the hassle let's also x10 DIPLO_PLAY_BACK_DOWN_CHANCE_LOW_ESCALATION and DIPLO_PLAY_BACK_DOWN_CHANCE_HIGH_ESCALATION, it's fricking silly how small countries are ready to jump into a suicide war.
Really I wasn't posting to brag about the WC, my game files are so altered I should have just looked up console commands, just to prove that cultural fragmentation isn't what fricks up the game. Or at least not the only thing.
I think the poo poster is actually a false flag. His implied criticism, presumably that Vitoria 3 is such a shitty game it will make you poo uncontrollably, is just too simplistic. By making such a ridiculous accusation it attracts attention from players who enjoy the game and who make counter posts, pointing out how good Victoria 3 actually is. Since their posts make a lot more sense the poo poster is discredited, along with all the other people shitting on the game.
Dude, look through this thread.
There's not a single argumentative answer to his poooposts. The game is that bad I guess (I only played leaked beta though, don't know)
Like all Paradox games, I feel like the game needs some more flavour for different countries and cultures. This game has many flaws and isn't that good of a successor to Vic2 but it hits a very personal sweet spot of mine I only get from playing things like Waterworks! on Newgrounds and treating the civ games like a type of city builder.
As long as the game remains this shit I'm sure the poo-poster will return to literally shitpost this game to death. Victoria 3 is such a massive disappointment nobody is discussing game strategies or how to "beat" the game. This thread took almost two weeks to fill up, its getting slower and slower.
Is Victoria3 is actually worst tortanic of 4x games of all times? I have never seen a game which is laggy and fundamentally broken as much as victoria3. Its a total disaster which cannot be salvaged.
At least it released feeling like it had something worth salvaging. Imperator took until the moment it was cancelled to reach the point of feeling like there was something worth building on. I'd be willing to bet a small amount of money that Victoria 3 has enough of a desperate fanbase that it'll make it through the redesign process Imperator couldn't. I'd bet a substantially larger amount of money that the process won't involve Wiz.
>At least it released feeling like it had something worth salvaging.
Every kernel of a decent idea in V3 has been implemented so terribly that they'd have to be rebuilt from zero to be "salvaged" into something decent.
>discord in browser >2 reddit tabs >2 different adblockers >but he’s using chrome so they won’t even work in a month >16 million youtube tabs >and he still has another browser open entirely
What are you doing?
Paradox is fricking moronic >tries to simulate France, the Bonapartists and the brief republic period before the establishment of the second empire. >to do so, makes Charles Louis Napoleon (known as Napoleon III) head of the armed forces
and this is where Paradox fricks everything up >they also make him a royalist (so he has the desire to reimplement the monarchy, should it be removed)
BUT, because he's a Royalist, and that personal traits have no influence whatsoever, and that Coups aren't a thing, the ONLY thing it does is guarantee that at every turn, he'll suck the King's wiener.
He won't ever accept the monarchy being removed, even if the main goal is to destitute the b*rbon king and put him in charge.
France, as far as I've seen, needs an actual reviolution that shuffles the government about to even have a chance at stepping off monarchy.
Paradox made the most unstable western europe country into the epitome of stability.
Can't wait for a DLC to fix that mess
They are trying their best anon, small indy company please understand.
And you are racist, the french republic/empire/republic was a beacon of stability and its people were not as important for the course of history as the various bantu tribes in africa!
My boy victorlingz he only need just TWO more DLC's
Its a win for no one. Its not a complete failure but it's by no means a sucess.
How it is not a complete failure?
Sold something like 500k copies, not bad for a gsg title but many potential buyers wait for flavors and better mechanichs. I'm not goin to buy an unfinished game that will have the plug pulled after 2 years
That's some weapons grade copium. CK3 is the game that can become a classic with some tweaking and lots of additional content. Liqui 3 is just badly designed through and through. It would need several years of Stellaris-style major reworks just to become playable, let alone good. At this point it would probably make more financial sense for Paradox to abandon it altogether.
doesnt matter if its badly designed if it sells
paradox post their financial info on their youtube channel and they are doing ok
CK3 has the potential to become a major coomer game with the throneroom 3d portrait shit
Given how much cooom sells, by now there should be devs designing cooomer mods in secret.
>Sold something like 500k copies, not bad for a gsg title
Did the maths when this was revealed.
It covered the studio's salaries for 3 years.
It's a failure.
>studio salary is 100m dollars a year
what
oh wait i fricked up and added an extra zero
disregard me i suck wieners
Oh okay, sorry no worries.
Alright let's try to see how the napkin maths goes. I don't have the US store so I'll work off my currency conversion of $51, and we'll assume none of these sales are going to poorer regions or key shenanigans which always cut lower.
>51 * 500,000 = $25,500,000
Now then if we take off Steam's fee, 30%
>$25.5m - 30% = $17.85m
Then if we shave off Sweden's VAT, 25% it would seem
>17.85 - 25% = $13.3875m
And if we want to do corporation tax, 20.6%, let's just do 20%
>13.3875 - 20% = $10.71m
In 2015, Paradox Studio's listed employee count was 80, we don't know if it's changed but let's look at their average salary, 45,100SEK per month, so
>45,100 * 12 = 541200, ~$52,058.49, * 80 = $4,164,679.2 or $4,200,000 per annum
So unless on poverty salaries or with half the workforce reported over half a decade ago, $4m per year pay required.
Unless someone enlightened can tell me I'm doing something horribly wrong, that's 2 and a bit years of pay. If we just take it from the Steam's fee bit, $17.85m, that's maybe 4.5 years' pay. And even with that we have to remember this is a for profit company, so the publisher, shareholders and whoever else will want to see those profits, and then remember that company costs aren't simply employs and shareholders either, you have cleaning agencies, IT agencies, land rent, insurance, return fees, legal fees, the unforeseen and whatnot...
... tell me this is still a good number.
Isn't it amazing how much a small company costs? Not joking about that.
>45,100 * 12 = 541200, ~$52,058.49, * 80 = $4,164,679.2 or $4,200,000 per annum
Employers also pay social security/payroll taxes directly for each employee so you can add another 30% to that.
>So unless on poverty salaries
Search for Paradox Glassdoor scandal. They do underpay their non-managerial staff severely.
>They do underpay their non-managerial staff severely.
That explains why Paradox games get worse with each dlc.
Cool it with the Reddit frog memes
Ok.
keep posting reddit frog memes
Actually, it technically doesn't.
Quality is more than throwing money at it.
In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better... whilst the businesses outsource to cheaper and cheaper labour markets. Something that Victoria games have never modelled outside of factory maintenance going up with more laws and eventually going bust, rather than capitalists emigrating or specifically purchasing foreign companies to circumvent this, though maybe that's outside the game's timeframe since the world was still very, very big and not owned by the capitalists yet.
>Actually, it technically doesn't.
I'm guessing that old, once enthusiastic, workers are burning out with time, while low wages are speeding the process. Also since Paradox is being cheap they won't hire new competent stuff.
Whenever I spend $20 on a dlc, after a few minutes I think to myself 'God damn it, they did it again'. 1 or 2 good features, while the overall game-play somehow becomes worse, for $20.
hey now, the gameplay becoming worse is a part of the free update
no-one paid for native superpowers 😀
>In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better... whilst the businesses outsource to cheaper and cheaper labour markets.
Shoes, rubber and synthetic cloth in general
Anything that uses chips or electronics, so phones/tablets/cars/appliances
Wireless, aka we're up to 5G now
Cameras
Do you not touch grass much and still buy the same headphones and Macintosh you bought in the '90s?
they’re poor as frick slavs and sudacas lol they’re not gonna see that shit in their life. plus they think 5g is demonic power summoned by george soros (only half joking)
are the slavs and sudacas in the room with us right now
reminder that you always dodge the question whenever someone asks what your ethnicity is which makes me think you're not even "white" by american standards
polish-lithuanian commonwealth you fricking historylet
>PLC
>superpower
>almost killed itself trying to subjugate Russia (thrice)
>contributed next to nothing to arts and sciences compared to Western Europeans in the same period
>most famous for getting gangraped and partitioned over 9000 times
WE WUZ WINGED HUSSARS AND SHIET
more plausible than iroquantioux or whatever the frick being relevant whatsoever since the discussion was about native americans being stupidly OP in the leviathan update for eu4 but you wouldn't know that since you don't actually play gsgs and instead prefer to b***h about random shit in paradox-related threads
god /gsg/ Black folk are a fricking scourge
>t. Russian so ass mad about random Polish noble taking over Moscow and ruling from it, he's celebrating as national holiday Poles packing their toys and leaving on their own after looting the country
>Russian so ass mad about random Polish noble
>make any thread on /misc/ at most tangentially related to Russia
>two dozen Polish flags appear out of nowhere to fume and seethe
Yeah, dude, it's definitely the Russians who are mad about your non-country and live in your head rent free and not the other way around.
>plc
>victorian period
esls are actually so dumb
Stop projecting your idiocy onto others.
If you follow the chain of replies, you'll note a post about native superpowers.
This is obviously referring to EU4's Leviathan DLC-accompanying update that broke Native Americans to the point where their provinces would have development in the 100s and other ridiculous numbers.
Of course you don't know this because you're a homosexual who only comes here to whine about ESLs ruining the games you don't even fricking play.
Also you can form the PLC in vicky 3 lmao
>Shoes, rubber and synthetic cloth in general
High-quality footwear is as expensive as ever, no matter if we're talking about dress shoes or outdoor boots. The only thing that's become cheaper are mass-produced sneakers and "hiking gear" put together with spit and wood glue, that falls apart after a season of wearing.
>Anything that uses chips or electronics, so phones/tablets/cars/appliances
>Wireless, aka we're up to 5G now
>Cameras
Virtually all high-end electronics is produced in highly developed countries like Taiwan, Japan or Worst Korea. At most they outsource final assembly to China or SEA shitholes. Moreover the claim of "getting better" is questionable at best. So far this decade we've seen insertion of planned obscolescence into nearly every product on the market, aggresive anti-repair designs, walled garden policies, pervasive datamining, privacy breaches etc etc. So whatever money you save at the checkout will be taken from you tenfold in indirect way.
>clothes are expensive or bad
Well I'm not sure how to explain this to you so okay.
>electronics are made in ~~*highly developed*~~ east asian countries ~~*that everyone wants to move to so they can be rich and live in luxury*~~, and assembled in shitholes
>also because heated seats are now behind digital paywalls, my phone brand only had 8 megapixels in its camera instead of 16, I get tired using my thumb on a touch screen playing flappy bird and would prefer to go back to snake on a phone keyboard, and the fact that bitcoin mining requires the most expensive and advanced kit to be run in coal burning countries...
Forgive me anon but go back three decades, or two, even one, and it'll be a different story. What you can comfortably buy with a western income is insane even though you haven't gotten a better job to be able to afford the top of the line shit made by sunkissed slaves with complimentary Himalayan pink salt.
Generally the only thing to have gone down in quality is food. I wouldn't know if that's because adulterating it is how you deal with more western income mouths to feed or if something else happened. Though we have more cooking oil, soi and avocados than ever before, well, Europeans have more avocados, Americans have had them for a while.
It's all Black persontech. What's the point of having the most highest resolution camera on a phone or whatever the frick "insane" things you can buy with a western income if it just breaks after a year so you have to buy the newest model and it completely bricks itself if you try to repair anything?
Because you can afford to buy the replacement too?
Everyone does?
That's why the business model works?
I mean, sure, we could all have our Gamecubes and PS2 slims that last for 50+ years when treated well. But we now have literal computer do-everything home entertainment systems masquerading as consoles that won't last (but longer than an Xbox would) but are godly in terms of what they can do compared to the old tech, ignoring things like tolerance for DVD/CD errors.
I understand what you're saying - it's shit for consumers, these things are slowly getting more expensive, people are conned into buy now, pay later loan schemes for iPhone upgrades. But half of this insane tech is magically possible thanks to not paying workers. Even video games are the Black persontech of the programming world.
>But we now have literal computer do-everything home entertainment systems masquerading as consoles
Yet they are performing worse. Because of programing jobs outsourcing? It has been a canon to say 'hardware is cheaper than programmer's time'.
Ultimately, improvements in hardware just means programmers can do shittier and shittier jobs and still get away with it.
>programmers can do shittier and shittier jobs and still get away with it.
I'm guessing the gpt-x and copilot will remove the need of those jobs at one point.
>wagie cagies use computers to tell computer programmers how a thing created by programmers will definitely replace them soon
this will never be not funny
>no you cannot just outsource me to an AI, I need the money for my onions latte
>I've downloaded some software and pressed "generate anime girls" over 50 times
>you may now ask me about my incredibly well-informed expert opinions on AI and its code generation facilities
I know (you) couldn't "outsource me to AI" given all the time in the world, angry wageoid. Now bring me my onions latte.
Sneethe.
If you were worth a shit as a programmer you wouldn’t be posting on Ganker
>Yet they are performing worse.
Are you saying that your Gameboy had a better memory, CPU/GPU, ethernet access, DVD/Blu-ray capability, YouTube watching, whatever else.
Or are you saying that because they die fast whilst your Gameboy you threw in a cupboard 20 years ago still works?
Are you blaming programmers for being shit/companies exclusively hiring shit programmers/companies constantly outsourcing DLC work to underskilled mercenary overseas studios? And that because of this your Nvidia powered magic light show with RPG elements is shittier than playing the original DOOM which couldn't handle multiple floors or that cheap as shit indie Roguelikes couldn't hold a candle Rogue the ASCII game where frick all happens?
Could you tell me where we're going with this?
Can't tell if nationalistic easterner or weeb.
This is the same sperg who will swear up and down state capitalism is shit in Victoria 2
What's wrong with it?
I like to play State Capital->Intervention. I can't stand Planned for how I need to pause the game and that I don't actually know how to tell what's profitable beyond liquor and anons keep saying throughput is bad.
Usually its some cope about how you're building a zombie industry and that you should switch to laissez-faire in the latter half of the game, when most people already have fricking won
Any legit criticism will result in whining about how even Vicky 2 is pozzed
And that's why fascism is the best ideology. Because the game is pozzed lmao
The zombie industry statement is about economies collapsing when no longer able to subsidize, it has nothing to do with state capitalism or LF or interventionism since subsidies are never forced. The whole zombie industry meme is based off of morons making economies which require subsidies to even survive, and this can be done in any non-LF economy.
>Could you tell me where we're going with this?
Server sided calculations. You won't have access to real hardware. It's about profit, not about your good.
I have no idea what assorted ~~*parentheses*~~ or rambling about flappy bird have to do with your initial point. You surmised that outsourcing to shitholes doesn't bring about qualitative deficiencies in products and now you're extolling the virtues of high-tech products that are designed in Western highly developed countries and manufactured in Eastern highly developed countries.
Would you mind telling us what these commodities that are getting better are?
>In fact a lot of modern commodities get better and better...
Anon the only sector where you COULD still argue that hedonic quality adjustment is still a thing is electronics. For everything else, the increase in quality has been either negligible or has straight up regressed. There was a time when this was true, now, not so much.
Sweden's VAT is 25%? I thought it was 20% across all of Europe.
>I thought it was 20% across all of Europe.
Huh - every day's a school day. Thanks fren
Value-added taxes confuse me. Isn't the whole point of economics to add value to things? Why would you punish people for doing that?
VAT is paid by consumers, not producers.
>taxes confuse me, it's like they're a punishment for doing well
Taxes are arbitrary and simply a method of raising funds. It's always a punishment for success, so much so that evasion is the new success. You will find people sometimes create small companies they're the only employee of, for personal ventures, simply because corporate tax is lower than the alternative.
Do you have anything more specific you'd like to ask?
Wikipedia is special.
Consumers include manufacturers, so technically producers too. Especially considering they consider tax in the final price. I know Americans don't tend to display the after tax price but Europeans do, so the autistic 0.99 requirement on the price tag has to be calculated.
In fact VAT is supposed to be """better""" for producers as it taxes them """less""" than Sales Tax, but ultimately that depends on how much they're being taxed, not how they're only being taxed on the value added at each stage. Like how a poll tax is fine if everyone only pays a cent or penny a year but not if it's triple digits in a strong currency.
I have no idea what your incoherent rambling was supposed to convey, but the cost of VAT is borne fully by the end consumer of the good, exactly the same as with sales tax.
Very well then.
M'lady.
Sorry, you'll never be one. M'mister.
You could explain VAT yourself then.
A latte has layers, like an ogre.
You 100% are overweight and have breathing issues, I can just tell from the typing style
nerve struck fatty
Fat
>i can tell what you look like from how you type
cool it with the racist and antisemitic remarks
cringe fedora tipping 13 year old trying to explain taxes in some kind of gay anime villain tone
dude, you don't know how the frick VAT works. lol
just crazy how many barely educated people with qualifications from the school of /misc/ and badly skimming wikipedia articles are content to spout out brainfarts as loudly as possible to anyone who will listen
holy shit can you make your samegayging any more obvious
you should just stop trying entirely
why the mods haven't permabanned you from this board for consistently ruining every thread you visit and never talking about strategy games at all aside from b***hing about people liking "le pop history tanks battles!!!" and then displaying a comical lack of knowledge about history yourself
>everyone who disagrees with me or irks me is one person
mind of a child
if you all talk like one another, believe in the same things and get pissed off by the exact same things you are effectively the same person
>Irelnad
You pay taxes after all expenses have been paid so you need to deduct wages before calculating taxes. Also, you deduct 20% VAT, since you add 25..
Technically the game is working as intended, it's just that its intended design is moronic
Large initial success and that's the end of it.
It's not a loss, or rather it's a worthless victory.
It's not the end of it.
Every Paradox game starts off shit and gets better over the years. The average player count goes up with every expansion during the game's lifecycle. Look at any other game.
People can cope and seethe about it taking 2 years to not be shit but the player count will go up. The only exception was Imperator, and this game isn't Imperator.
I feel great. After a game of Vicky 3 my intestines have been completely flushed out. Sure, my floor is covered in splatters of congealing feces from all the VIOLENT DIARRHEA, but that is a small price to pay for such an exciting game!
b-but, you didn't count how many pirated it!
Paraslop dying. Good.
Still no audience. Paradox better pray the alt history spergs jump on this game before it's too late.
Did they not have enough bourgeoisie feminist women leading the communist and fascist parties in game?
Were worker cooperatives, a late 20th century economic concept, not strong enough?
Was it too racist with assimilation mechanics?
Could you not achieve fully automated gay space communism?
>let's have people who identifiably hate everything about western civilization, history, and empire, design a game about western civilization, history, and empire
It's over.
it isn’t spelled “lenenism” you cartoonishly idiotic ESL
The racists out themselves.
Shitskin cope.
always know when you’ve made a mixed race ESL suicidally angry when they bring up Black folk out of nowhere
stop flooding threads with your troony nonsense
and you know an ESL is close to shooting himself in the head to put an end to his seething rage when he brings up trannies out of nowhere
Why would you want to spell the name of a c*mmunist properly?
because "Leninism" is so commonly known that but spelling it correctly marks you as low class and uneducated?
i am top kekking mein bruder;D
Cry more.
take your meds merge troony
You, sir, are a homosexual and a Black person also.
learn some spelling skills dyslexic ESL
>the only winning move is not to play
>Made this exact picture with the exact same name but the faces were in different orders.
>Guy makes this picture after mine gets his immortalized.
Frick this gay site.
Why do you even care?
Just do.
>GUIS YOU CANT LOOK BAD YOU MUST LOOK GOOD
what is this autism
yeah you can hate vicky 3 but why are you mad about their faces
>but why are you mad about their faces
They seem to be insufferable. I wouldn't want to drink a beer with them, and I won't waste hours to play their vision of game. But that's just my opinion.
most of us look insufferable though
I'm not asking you for $20 to revive a (You).
The faces of destruction. The destroyers of the world. They fackin removed the warfare!
It's called physiognomy and it's real.
You know you can reply to multiple people at once here unlike on Reddit which you’re probably more used to
it is not no
Where do you all lower case people come from and why do you act like a hivemind (assuming you're not a samegay)? Is this what stage 5 leftism does to a man?
It's literally just the same guy you fricking schizo
Well last time I accused him of samegayging he also called me a schizo for assuming everyone I disagree with is the same person.
I can't win with this fricking Black person. This absolute charcoal black, blue gummed, fricking monkey.
why do you think only one person thinks you're a moron?
ive no clue who you are and im the one who you just accused of being a "stage 5 leftist"
what in my fricking posts triggered you?
Because when all the people who think I'm a moron have the exact same typing style it makes me think it's actually just one guy
>why do shitposters refuse to adopt a set of coherent beliefs and instead just say whatever they think will make autists mad?
You're legitimately moronic.
schizo
>Where do you all lower case people come from
how new
hatchling bait
They hired the fricking cleft lip homosexual
Cleft lip homosexuals are people too. They don't choose to be that way
Unlike neon hairs
>ck3 has 12,000 players
Pig disgustingu.
Ck2 is better in every conceivable way.
>>let's have people who identifiably hate everything about western civilization, history, and empire, design a game about western civilization, history, and empire
Nobody cares what an iToddler thinks.
L
>Being poor
You're not rich because you own an iPhone you fricking Black person lmao
Go buy some gold rims, teeth and other useless but flashy displays of wealth
As usual the poor ESL has a temper tantrum upon being reminded it’s poor
One can stop being poor.
You can't stop being black, unless you're MJ.
>ESL still going on about Black folk to deflect being from low IQ mixed race prole stock
Quarter-Scot and three quarters English isn't loq IQ prole stock you fricking /misc/-tier racial pseudoscience spouting idiot.
>loq
Oh great
I missed the w key that's right next to the q key
>”im not a low iq prole”
>goes on to reveal the quintessential low iq prole ethnicity
you're literally american dude i don't know how to break it to you but you're probably descended from ir*sh or g*rmans
iphone is such a worthless piece of tech man
frick i hate it
bitches go dry when you get out your android
i dont live in the states, noone cares what you phone you use here
i think iphones are overpriced bricks of shit
>what you phone you use
frick me im tired
anyways you get what i mean
>inb4 third worlder
i live in germany
something something ruhr pole or turkish or something idk i'm not the eslspammer guy
>making a dead game, GOOD!
Like it or not Vicky 3's timeframe is one of the most Eurocentric, like the latter half of EU4's timeframe
its fun, im enjoying it
dlcs will make it better and with time it will be perfect
Copium.
The game is inherently flawed and without multiple Stellaris-esque complete overhauls it won't be good.
i didnt ask your opinion really, im enjoying myself for now and it will be even better with time
>im enjoying myself
Weird way to spell "barely staving off suicidal thoughts", paratroony.
why would i have suicidal thoughts playing a game and enjoying it? are you really this miserable in life?
I'm just waiting for performance patches to play more complicated and longer games, game loop is fun and seems easily expanded, keep seething
>game loop is fun
t. Kingdom Rush player
Not the anon, Vicky3 is shit, but Kingdom Rush is kino.
Same, am waiting for the inevitable barrage of DLC's to come and put the content it needs to be good, the game has a good foundation with how the economy and politics work but needs more content (especially in the political part as I barely look at how the IG's changed in the last 50 years) and the AI needs to be less moronic and actually develop their economy, being able to buy a stockpile of non-perishable goods would be nice too.
Does it still run like shit in the late game?
It seems to be even worse.
Thank you Paradox, very cool.
whats with victoria and parawieners games bringing the most schizo posters? is it just one troony spamming or actually multiple posters?
You can just reply directly to the meanies making you upset instead of sitting in the corner crying like a b***h lol
To answer your question, it's one incredibly persistent homosexual that's possibly from /gsg/ arguing with the voices in his head, catching everyone else in the crossfire meanwhile.
Nobody cares about your selfies, /gsg/gay.
Are you actually 11 years old or something lol
>haha look at me aren't i witty and cool i quote your entire post and post a chinlet picture next to it i'm not like the other people from /gsg/
ask your special needs coordinator on how to reply to people taking the piss you social moron
Are you coping with some kind of trauma that causes you to lash out at random people in paradox-related threads
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO REPLY THE WAY I WANT YOU TO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
read again
>pls give me your personal information
you're about 12 years off btw
>>pls give me your personal information
i don’t think you even realise or can ever really comprehend how autistic and socially clueless this sounds
ez replies
Lmao ok sperg
I'm sure all 10 users of this board saw everything you posted here and clapped. Where the hell do you people even come from? Why is there a surplus of catty, sarcastic people here who sperg out if you say something they disagree with politically?
calm down moron
terminally boring Ganker banter zzz cba
>terminally boring Ganker banter
>when he himself started rambling incoherently about ethnicity autism
holy shit can you be more of a coward
you’re just even more of a non person than most people here and just not very interesting to talk to sorry
can you maybe quit LARPing as an actual limp-wristed lisping homosexual for five minutes
nerve struck
Nobody cares about your catty little jabs.
could you sound any less upset
more likely to happen historically than poland or latvia or whatever shithole you’re from becoming a superpower in that period to be honest
He’s calling you immature not actually asking you for “personal information” you spaz
aRe YoU AcTuAlLy 11 YeArS OlD Or sOmEtHiNg lOl????
>i hate victoria 3 but i love victoria 2
Literally me (I didn't play and I'm not planing on trying Vic3 tho).
why are you so emotionally invested in defending one of the worst pdx titles to date lmao
he’s being sarcastic you actual idiot
lowest form of wit innit
im not him i just joined a stupid argument to post a chinlet pic i have
but to you i say "why are you so emotionally invested in attacking a paradox title"
>playable game
>playable game
>recently released unplayable game
nothing unexpected
>anglo vs esl autism-war.
Best day of my life.
>when onions latte becomes a thing
You won't be as smug by then.
Aren't "soi lattes" already a thing or a we actually talking about "oignon lattes"?
onion lattes, just imagine
I wish Victoria 3 worked because this is literally a once-in-a-generation attempt to at least try something like Victoria
Abandon hope. The PI that gave the world Vic2 is dead and gone.
As fun as it is to shit on the game for the millionth time is there any chance of good mods coming out that may save it from being complete trash?
The AI mod already exists. Everything else cannot be fixed with mods.
Despite what they've said, it's just a bit more moddable than Victoria 2. You may have UI mods, AI mods and alternate histories, along with some extra content, but that's it. War goals are unmoddable, SFX is unmoddable, there's only one bookmark, there's no documentation etc. Some mods add custom buildings, but they're not as popular because they don't work with the AI mod. There's no scripted GUI either, meaning that you have to work with the in-game systems, but these systems have piss poor moddability. They've also tailored the game to work exactly like a 19th century simulator with weird quirks like no land actually being empty, so you're out of luck on TCs.
JESUS FRICKING CHRIST
MY ARSE IS LITERALLY TEARING ITSELF APART WITH VIOLENT DIARRHEA!
Remind me to never play Victoria 3 again. My anus wasn't built to take such excitement!
Stellaris tops them all
People are just waiting for the first DLC.
Now with the new building system, has anyone actually made the Albanian factory a real thing?
Was France nerfed somehow, or is the British embargo on them just so efficient that even Russia and Austria have a lot bigger GDP than french?
I sincerely apologize for linking to Reddit, but here's an explanation by the Russian voodoo AI mage.
> You know the story. Release patch (which was already 1.0.3) was quite problematic, with three hotfixes required to make it bearable. Then we got patch 1.1 with 4 dev diaries to hype it up that fixed and broke the game in roughly equal proportions. First hotfix was underwhelming, but then the second one was actually quite good... except it broke AI even further than before.
> Patch notes contain a "we improved how AI invests in ports" in three parts, and as the result AI-controlled Britain and France have around 150M GDP in 1900s, often even lower. Not even talking about smaller coastal nations. These "improvements" led to AI prioritizing nothing but ports, only to then delete all of them after going bankrupt, surprising Canada and Australia players with no market access. Meanwhile Austria is stronger than ever, as having a relatively small number of port slots made it free from this disease.
> Now, as the author of a well-known AI mod (that is free of all this nonsense), I can honestly say I don't like ports. They require the most complex logic out of all the buildings due to the amount of functions they have. And that's exactly why you don't mess with said logic at this scale if you are not sure it'll work properly and are not planning to release patches anytime soon!
> Usually I'm not the one to start this shit cause it all is not as simple as you would think, but I don't know what else to say... has anyone tested this, like it all? I mean, it happens nearly every game from the get go, how did this make it into release 1.1.2 build?
https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria3/comments/zx98sv/devs_destroying_ai_of_britain_and_france_for_no/
Thanks, that explains it... In my game Brits were playing pretty decently for a while (I think I carried them a bit by playing East Indian Trade Company) until they too, fell behind Austria in GDP
>And that's exactly why you don't mess with said logic at this scale
They've fricked the game multiple times with patches already, it's clear they don't test anything.
absolute cringe
i hope they crash and burn
holy shit how do you release "historical" games so full of shit and memes "le ebin incest XDDD"
get fricked
>incest was unheard of throughout history
>bibeo gayms are serious business
Have sex already.
>Gankerners all pirated CK2 and the DLC and openly boasted about it
>redditors who love incest maymays and wacky-looking characters all bought the game and DLC and supported it
CK3 was never going to turn out any other way
Game has near zero flavor events or chains. Pretty much all events stems from technologies which is boring. Also migration system needs tweaking. Trying to play Greece the Peloponesseus will depopulate when you want to turn it into a resource factory for wood/iron and people will still leave to go be peasant farmers in the capital because capital market modifier.
Migration is fricked overall. New world nations like USA get jack shit of migration, unless they adopt multiculturalism, which opens the flood gates to african tribesman to immigrate en masse, although even after that most of them still go to France/UK. I honestly think old world countries should be locked out of open immigration until at least the 1900s. Same for multiculturalism and feminism.
African countries having access to markets, especially landlocked ones is moronic. A landlocked country should not be sending immigrants at all overseas.
Pops from "decentralized" and "unrecognized" polities should probably be disallowed from emigrating entirely, though an exception could be placed on some like China. Or they would need a certain SOL and an access to a port.
China shouldn't send any and should have no immigrants sent unless your country wins a war to open market. But open market ideally would work as a country-by-country basis. Market not open to you? No immigrants sent your way. China should automatically start with closed markets to everyone, except for those who get a treaty port. Perhaps it might be best tied up with the politics decisions, I dunno.
>China shouldn't send any and should have no immigrants sent unless your country wins a war to open market
I agree from the gameplay and balance standpoint, although historically that wasn't the case.
In the case of China they had a full on collapse of the government before they started sending immigrants out to south america. Many arrived to the US but the US also benefited from the treaty port wars in China. US didn't have to fight for one, China just ceded it rather than fight for it
>In the case of China they had a full on collapse of the government before they started sending immigrants
Didn't the emigration start before that though, around 1810-20?
The Taiping Rebellion in the 1860s caused a metric Black person frickload to come over.
Akshually it was really easy to migrate back in the 19th century and any African tribespeople could do it, they just didn't want to.
t. That moron from an earlier thread
It's true though. The game just completely fails to simulate cultural/ethnic tensions and language barriers (among ither things) so the abstractions in place don't really satisfy any comparison with reality. It's also why immigration is broken in the game, because there aren't enough details to properly simulate the movement of pops across nations and states
>because there aren't enough details to properly simulate the movement of pops across nations and states
But anon, literally anyone could go anywhere in their millions back in the Victorian era.
If Nepal adopted multiculturalism and flung open their doors, Caribs, Serbs and Rhodesians would have all flocked there to work in clothes factories and become Nepalese.
I remember doing a summer job at a museum and reading Victorian accounts of English workers and Irish workers having mass brawls and race riots in Victorian Middlesbrough
The English were an amalgam of English and Scots who had previously fought one another
The descendants of those English, Scots and Irish, all considering themselves English, were collectively fricked over and demoralised by deindustrialization and only scattered groups of skinheads extend the traditional greetings to new communities of South Asians and Eastern Europeans. I assume the descendants of the English, Irish, Scottish, Polish and Lithuanians who call themselves English will carry on the traditional beatings and hostility to incomers in their own way. The Asians are a bit more like the Ashkenazi - an obvious and endogenous minority who speak a slightly accented version of the language and who stick to their own. Their may be ovens and persecution in their future if shit goes south
History = rhymes etc etc
>History = rhymes
das right istory is black!
I'm going to guess you have issues with timekeeping because you seem pretty tardy
EU4chads stay winning
Surprised 12k people still enjoy the shallow game that is ck3
If paradox kept supporting CK2 it would have surpassed EU4, instead, we're stuck with the abomination that is CK3
I can't get past UI of CK3 to even try it out properly. I don't know, maybe I lost patience as I got older. Teenager me find no problem with CK2 and I'm used to it by now, but CK3 just seems annoying. Maybe one day...
Honestly, you are not missing out on anything
It's a mobile game.
why do ESLs continuously call things mobile games when they can’t afford mobiles and thus probably have never seen a mobile game
Still afraid to say the "N" word.
Nice try Jannie
homie it's aesthetically a mobile game, just add a gem or whatever the frick premium currency counter somewhere in the top right
why are EOPs fixated on defending a shitty Swedish game anyhow, Swedes speak Swedish by default and therefore are subhuman by their twisted logic
it's a new buzzword it seems
I told you.
Victoria 3 has the best warfare since Imperator: Rome's pop/army mechanic.
rent free
Since the thread has once again devolved into a flame war, it can be safely concluded the game is utter shit.
No discussion of tactics, build more buildings to get green line go up. How to achieve WC? You just do its piss easy. Getting good at war? Lol no, warfare is an absolute mess and there is for some unholy reason only a single battle per front.
Any guesses how low the vic 3 playercount will go? I'm betting below Victoria 2 if paradox can't push patch 1.2 and 1.3 out fast enough.
im enjoying it
it's a fun game
What's fun about it?
i like the new population mechanics, though they can use some work
the new war system can be moronic but i feel like if perfected it can be really realistic but we are probably not getting that without a DLC
the factories are fun, id love more chances to invest in other countries and whatnot
diplomacy is ok, better than vicky 2 but is still shit
>shilling during the New Year
Thought sw*des had better labour laws than that
The game is literally just a cookie clicker and nothing else.
The population mechanics make no sense for a game set in the Victorian era. Multiculturalism being a government policy in an era that was defined by it's nationalism is just downright moronic and globohomosexual goyslop.
Factories require far too much tedious micromanagement which sucks all the fun out of them unlike Vicky 2
AI doesn't even work without the mod and will cause countries like Britain and France to self destruct
And don't even get me started on multiplayer...
that's good for you that you think like that
im enjoying myself
IS THAT AN OPINION I DONT AGREE WITH?
>im enjoying myself
Sure you are shill
you sound like a child anon
You need to go back
been here since 2010, eat my ass newbie
You don't fool anyone
Your not fitting in here
Hello ESL.
Of course it was the ESL obsessed troony that was shilling for vicky 3 again
that wasn't me but yeah you do sound like an ESL in that post
There's always one shill in every Vicky 3 thread and it's always him
dude, there is lots of "shills" for victoria 3
this isn't a fricking echochamber
people are allowed to have different opinions
Ok wiz
what do i call you though ive no clue
a popular youtuber that hates victoria 3 maybe?
I can tell who you're seething about without you even namedropping him lol
How does it feel that he was right about v3 and no amount of copium about mods or DLCs fixing it will change that.
Especially since Paradox (intentionally?) crippled modding and their recent DLC track record has been less than stellar. Hello Leviathan, Royal Court, Fate of Iberia, Friends and Foes, By Blood Alone, etc etc
ive actually no clue who that is lol
i just said it in a way "maybe there is a youtuber i can use like you use wiz"
you giving him schizophrenia
homie everyone knows you're talking about spud
Perhaps nationalism was high due to the immigration. Apparently immigration peaked during this time period. Though it was mostly europeans immigrating.
It was basically only Europeans immigrating to the new world
Victoria 2 reflects this better where as Victoria 3 goes full globohomosexual and has non europeans colonizing UK and France like they are in 21st century
how did victoria 2 reflect it better
all it did was add a migration pull modifier
if you turn it into a state, they will migrate to other parts of your country lmao
wtf are you going on about you schizo
in vic 2 it was virtually impossible to get immigrants if you weren't a new world country
which is a better depiction of the reality then vic 3
you can use tech and focuses to focus internal migration into your country
meaning if you had a colony and turn it into a state then people in it will migrate back and forth with your other states
people magically get converted into british people due to assimilation
>meaning if you had a colony and turn it into a state then people in it will migrate back and forth with your other states
It was pretty difficult to turn a colony in Africa into a state unless you had a mod that made it super easy
I mean, one of the biggest influences for immigration to the new world is the abundance of land but that's pretty difficult to model outside of fat bonuses. But who knows, maybe Victoria 4 wil have land prices and model ownership so new world governments can sell off land at cheap prices to entice people to move.
>fat
flat
Victoria 4 would be like the Einstein quote about WW4 being fought with sticks and stones.
Paradox are not gonna make another Victoria game after fricking up so hard on this one
It's why everyone is super mad at wiz for failing to make even a passable Victoria game
good
>wiz singlehandedly kills the vicky franchise
Why is Paradox's management so fricking stupid?
Because anyone with talent has either left or doesn't give a shit anymore (Johan)
Now the only people who work at paradox are interns and diversity hires
they're literally the same devs you coping homosexual
post a venn diagram of devs who worked on 2 and 3 then
Prove it then you troon homosexual
top kek mein bruder the kekked troons are sneeding and woking as we say on Ganker
Ah look the ESL obsessed troony s is here to derail yet another thread
Another rage fuelled report confirmed
bye bye troony
Mad?
Wiz stop shitposting and go back to fix the mess you made
also keep in mind, "assimilation" in victoria 2 might have hid from you the fact that Black folk are migrating to the UK
just cuz they speak english doesn't mean their skin color changed
The only way to have joggers immigrate to your country in Vic 2 was to conquer a part of Africa and then change it from a colony to a state (which was very difficult as you had to get a load of your accepted culture pops to move there)
In Vic 3 all you need is one law to get blacked
>one law to get blacked
i don't know why that made me laugh
but yes, im just saying that victoria 2 anyone assimilated can migrate anywhere and colonies can assimilate randomly
>colonies can assimilate
>Well first you need to get enough accepted culture pops and bureaucrats to state it and then have coreless Black person pops but they'll black you eventually I promise!
Why are there so many schizo types on this fricking board god damn go back to /gsg/
also if you are cursed (or blessed) to be in the new world
you have no control over that migration
Some mods let you close the border but that was it
There needed to be an option to only allow in Europeans
do you really thinks europeans liked each other back then
euros viewing themselve as one race is a myth especially for that time period
Amerimutts hated irish but they were still allowed in
Amerimutts had some pretty based takes about other Europeans
i always found those funny
This is photoshopped, I'm pretty sure the original sign was talking about the North American Pavement Ape
Ah that's a shame
ESLs would never t have recovered from this otherwise
There are non-slavs with English as their second language you obsessed moron.
Hello ESL.
My name's not ESL, kid.
It was talking about Japanese people, WW2-era amerisharts absolutely despised Japs after Pearl Harbour
Looks instead like it was a sign for nips.
So I've likely seen an edited version too
Funny how that works
Nothing on the internet is real.
Sometimes nothing on the TV is real either.
>Funny how that works
Ho Ho! Another “based schizo” as we are called I see? ;D
I knew that it's going to be bad but wanted to see how bad it is, it's actually really horrible and much worse than ck3
>the new war system can be moronic but i feel like if perfected it can be really realistic but we are probably not getting that without a DLC
let's see:
no logistics at all, no issue with sending troops to other side of the world
if troops get encircled they just teleport back home without extra losses
if general dies while being on front troops just teleport back to HQ and it will take them weeks to come back to the front
front size doesn't make sense, Russia-Qing is one 5000+km front
only one battle per front at once, despite having tons of generals and troops
everything is sloooow, enemy having a general with 1 battalion will slow down "advancing the front" stage by 50%
battles are extremely slow, one could think that when one side has 10k troops and another has 500 left, they would surrender but no, they will fight until the last man and their losses per day decrease with the number of men, battles usually lasts for week and even you have 10k troops they can't take a single province until the last "defender" is eliminated
defeating a native uprising with 2000 troops takes more than a year during which you can't start wars
naval warfare is joke, battles also last for weeks and the battle window is counting men instead of ships (they didn't even bother to change that)
intercepting or defeating naval invasion should give heavy losses to attacker but no, forces just teleport back unscratched
you can write the same about economy, population, internal politics etc.
it's over, you can't salvage it without a complete rewrite and it's not going to happen
the pop mechanics are actually worse than vic2, how the frick does it make sense that each level of factories need exactly 600 capitalists? Why can't capitalists just exist like in vic2 and gain wealth by expanding factories while retaining their share of wealth/ownership? Why is it so easy for peasants to move to work in factories? Why does building more barracks cause more enlistment, rather than enlistments putting pressure on existing barracks? POPs being so intrinsically tied to buildings makes POPs worthless on their own. They have no agency since every pound they earn, every job they get, every single promotion they recieve, is all because the player clickedd a button to build a building. They do nothing without player intervetion. How the frick is that any good?
Amongst 250 incelposts is nice to read a criticism that focuses on game mechanics and not just amorphous complaints of agenda.
you're been ignoring every other valid complaint for some mysterious reason
I remember sometimes looking at the pop list in victoria 2 just to see how my country is developing. Small amount of primary pops immigrating to colonies, overall number of craftsman rising, literacy rates going up and people going militant or not due to fulfillment of their needs. It felt like your country was slowly but surely improving. Now with how promotion mechanics work in vic 3, the only thing I ever cared for was the number of peasants and unemployed in any of my states.
the rise of neoliberalism
Reads like complaining about modern economics.
Why use an enema when you can just play Victoria 3?
Just push a few buttons and THERE YA GO!
HOT LIQUID SHIT SHOOTING OUT OF YOUR QUIVERING ANUS!
Such is the excitement!
I think Vic 3 is already miles better than 2, and this is coming from a die hard fan of the latter with thousands of hours invested into it
same to be honest
people exaggerate how good victoria 2 was
I think this is one board where the skitzos are actually correct in identifying individual anons, since so few people post here.
mogged
noone has ever found you funny
But really now, why can I build a glassworks factory as sokoto in 1836 and have pops instantly work there? It makes zero sense
because it's a game that is yet to be balanced anon
wtf with performance? it's using >10GB of ram in 1890
Paradox mining bitcoin to recoup their losses
Even the forums are calling this a clicker game.
He's not wrong.The economy is just cookie clicker gameplay.
Yeah, never played Vic 2 but I always heard how it was Paradox best game or something like that, when Vic 3 got announced I was looking forward to see a modernized Vic 2 and what it was all about but after pirating it and playing for 2 hours as Belgium I was very disappointed, was this the amazing gameplay I heard about? Looks like those mobile games where you click stuff so you can click some more, it was so goddamn boring
I'm still debating myself if I should try it again or just free that space on my hard drive and download Vic 2 instead to see the original with my own eyes
vic 2 has its own problems but its actually fun, unlike vic 3
I think it was meant to be a mobile game and they changed it to the next Victoria game. Whatever the case, it's clearly rushed, as the base game was released with next to nothing and doesn't look finished.
The frick is wrong with this "game"?
What is the issue here? You don't seem to have any unincorporated states and you pay bureaucracy upkeep for pops in incorporated ones.
Hello Everybody!
Please recommend me a mod that helps convert and assimilate pops.
I don't want to play a multicultural shithole, but rather force my main culture and religion onto the conquered states.
Pick your poison, you have that one that removes homelands over time
What are the names of these mods please?
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2886971456
Literally one Google search away dude
Thanks!
>MOMMY THEY TOOK MY TOY SOLDIERS AWAY!!!!!
Nobody cares about warfare anymore. What's truly indefensible is how shit the rest of the game is in spite of warfare being gutted to augment them
Hello troony.
not him but why do you creatures think only trannies like this game? is it paranoia?
Just look at the Victoria 3 Paradox forum, Discord and Subreddit
It's full of trannies
dude that sounds like just you
like yeah some trannies are bound to play the game but your obsession is fricking moronic man
kek lefty i am kekking at you demonic george soros creation
im convinced you don't have a frontal lobe
look at them infighting
kek the trenny discord have no unity unlike proud traditionalist country
what do you mean?
It's just a troony trying to fit it
Just ignore him, it's almost time for him to dilate
Calm down aspie lol
Two separate kinds of shitposters finally collide.
They literally infest the entire vic 3 community you fricking homosexual
Only a mentally insane troon is capable of thinking vic 3 is a good game
this is peak ESL derangement
i see why people from poor countries are laughed at on here now
just imagine
he went out of his way to go to discord and find anyone with a flag that annoyed him and then compiled a screenshot
this is probably the final stage of paradox troony obsession before igor finally puts on his grandmas frock and takes pictures
Stop replying to yourself homosexual
howdy ESL
>ESL
Tell me you're troony without saying "I'm a troony"
mad? gonna cry, ESL?
hello esl
I'm rather be an ESL then a troony homosexual
cope and seethe troon
you will never be an EFL
Why would I want to be an EOP troony?
Please come up with a better insult or frick off back to troonycord
>person from low IQ poor ESL country blames all his problems on trannies/gays/etc
many such cases
Hello ESL
Absolute ESL meltdown
Are you gay? Do you suck dicks?
No I'm not a troony
dios mio
NTA and hate trannies as much as the next chud, but I'm fairly certain there's various non-troony consoomers and people who've sunk a lot of time into paradox and thus keep deluding themselves into thinking the new releases are good who are defending it, along with shitposters and lib types who feel contractually obligated to defend the game for reasons that elude me
Based and chudpilled
praise kek mein bruder
You aren't funny or even annoying
A truly meh post
nerve struck
Low IQ + Poor + Probably ESL too
Vic2 military system bad
Vic3 military system worse
I sure love seeing my commander naval invading a province and then straight up teleporting back home for no reason in an instant. Much better.
but PDX titles always had teleporting commanders
Armies didn't teleport with them, though
true
does dismissing and rehiring soldiers in vicky 2 count?
Not really since it takes time to recruit soldiers. There's no way to get them to teleport instantly back to the homeland like in Vicky 3.
Having million of chinks move to a landlocked front with no way stop them due to everything being intangible is truly fun.
>Mother, they have removed the toy soldiers from my 19th century economy and warfare simulator.
>robbie is talking to himself now
I think there's one person having a meltdown here, and it's the guy who's letting ESLRepublicanSecretTranssexualPolandball/r/historymemesBrowserAutists live in his head rent free.
that's not true
watch
*mets down*
why did you stop directly plying to the mean bullies you esl wuss
Styling yourself as a highschool bully isn't as cool as you think it is.
>Styling yourself as a highschool bully isn't as cool as you think it is.
lol you gay as frick
Quit it with the Black folkpeak, this is a white man's board.
no it's not
I am a Polish man.
>Look at me I don't reply to comments, I'm so cool
>"MuhESL" vs "MuhTrannie" schizos derailing yet another Par*dox thread
I see jannies are as useless as ever.
It's a wonder people are actually still playing and I say this as a quasi Paradrone Vic 3 defender. Matter of fact, the game is broken, barely playable and nothing but a fricking meme in late game.
>It's a wonder people are actually still playing
They can't even peak at 10,000 players anymore
It's so fricking over
Still good compared to Imperator Rome. (You) me when they don't even manage 1k.
> Well if you compare it to Imperator, paradox's worst ever game release then it's actually good
wtf bro are you moronic?
Stroking my wiener rn
Victoria 3 is saved
AUGUSTUS
I KNEEL
>People's republic of North German Federation
>Kingdom of Roman Empire
Do Vicysisters really?
Nice cum stains on the map b***h.
>his map isn't marked by the cvm of the roman bvlls
GREAT GUSHING GEYSERS OF LIQUID SHIT!
SQUIRTING OUT MY ASS RIGHT NOW!
Such is the excitement of Victoria 3.
Or might I say, such is the "excrement" of Victoria 3, lololololololol! lol lol de lol!
*Chuckle!*
*Snurgel!*
*Guffaw!*
It begins
hello, based department?
>France
>great power
>literacy: 23.5%
>standard of living: starving
Doing a bit of research here.
If you dont mind just answer the following question by choosing one of the answers.
When playing Victoria 3 do you:
(a) Have a sudden and unexpected bowel movement which forces a dash for the toilet?
(b) Drop a long stinky turd down your pants which thankfully gets snagged around your knees before it hits the carpet?
(c) Let rip with EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA which splatters LIQUID SHIT all around the room?
(d) Dunno, my arse got torn to shreds and I'm now in hospital getting a rectum transplant. I dont remember anything.
Thank you for your time!
Yes to all, such is the excitement of playing Victoria 3
Brother, you are clearly a man of much sophistication and refined taste.
rent free
Today I played victoria 3 and a idle clicker game, in both games I basically watched and kept clicking build buttons. The idle clicker game had more different strategies I could play with and was more fun overall
I never played vicky2, most of my time in paradox games is on ck2, I really didn't understand what I was supposed to do on vicky3
>expanded buildings
>researched tech
>selected optimal production methods
>grew my economy
But after all these things... I really didn't know what else there was to do, diplomacy and war seem completely pointless, colonisation seems shit unless you're one of the nations with a really strong start.
I also had the best Standard of Living in the world, over 50% higher than the next best country but nearly every one of my pops was rebelling because of minor recessions.
I wanted to like the game but it's slow, runs like shit and there is frick-all to do, it really did feel like an idle clicker/mobile game
Cookie Clicker
i'd say it looks like a mobile game but genshin impact looks better than this
look at this schizo talking to himself what a freak
>esl ashamed of another esl
keeekkk
Are the ESLs in the room with us right?
>esl syntax
yeah you
The frick is ESL syntax you shitposting gremlin
Can't wait for the Swedish holiday season to end and for these kinds of posts to disappear for some strange reason
low iq
Takes one to know one.
If the game sold 500k copies, how come the all-time peak is 69,663 players? That's accounts for only 14% of buyers. Did the rest just buy the game at full price to let it collect dust?
>Did the rest just buy the game at full price to let it collect dust?
A lot of people threw it in the trash after playing an hour of it
They literally pooed themselves to an early grave.
Such was their excitement!
Can't believe I laughed at this, goddamit
absurd and deranged samegayging esl behaviour
I await the day you drive yourself to genuine schizophrenia with your ESL obsession.
Chill out brother, take the poo pill! Clean those tubes out! Your anus will thank you, and so will your grandfather!
Feels vaguely insulting even just being talked at by someone who's from a nationality that is culturally and genetically inferior in all forms compared to mine
god damn thats a clunky sentence.
yeah if I was using polish to english google translate to use this website, then that sentence would be a mystery to me too
holy projection, thats another clunky sentence lmao.
ESLs have no clue what the word projection means and just repeat it mindlessly like autistic children with echolalia
Just like how you mindlessly repeat phrases that've been used against you in the past? Praise kek mein terminally unfunny, /r/politicalcompassmemes redditor, ESL-obsessed friend.
esl syntax
Relax dude! The more you relax the more your anal sphincter will open! You will be able to take both your grandfathers at the same time! All while playing Victoria3! Maximum anal pleasure!
>Dropping to less than 6,000 players
Vicky sisters...
I hate redditor paradrone shills so much
good, frick those c**ts, ive been playing vicky 2 for close to a decade and thats the piece of shit they come out with? frick em.
>be the absolute ultimate power in the world
>nothing happens
bravo paradox!
>blobbing as Japan
>as the fricking Shogunate
Why did Paradox make it so fricking hard to trigger the Meiji restoration?
muh anything that isn't the result of a calculator is railroading
aka, we'll sell you the far east expansion in 2 years which includes the boshin wars and unique korean colonization mechanics. there will also be some barebones chinese rebellion mechanics that will later be completely overwritten by the new and improved Revolutions(tm) dlc only 29.99
Why do the jannies allow this ESL obsessed Iphone troony to derail every fricking thread because he can't stand seeing the word troony
Fricking get your shit together
Im pretty sure its a gsghomosexual
No, /gsg/ doesn't exist, that's a conspiracy theory you ESL schizo.
Triggered?
>Iphone
why cant esls do anything right
>Why do the jannies allow this ESL obsessed Iphone troony to derail every fricking thread because he can't stand seeing the word troony
They're part of the same clique
In Vicky 2, Russia is a fun country to play. In Vicky 3, it's a nightmare. All I wanted is Vicky 2 without late-game rebel spam.
>All I wanted is Vicky 2 without late-game rebel spam.
It's called fascist dictatorship.
Play HPMP and do a few great purges, people quickly fall in-line from those
Any updates on the game being fixed or is this thread reduced to yelling at other anons and pooping?
Surely paradox wont let Vic3 die this quickly.
the fact this thread is always nothing but moronic bait should tell you enough, the game is built of a broken concept and boils down to clicking around to upgrade factories, everything that made victoria 2 the flawed but loved game that it was is absent in the "sequel", unless they overhaul it completely it has no hope.
So wait and come back until paradox releases their mandatory dlcs before trying this game. It is a shame.
I still can't believe how slow they are with fixing the game or doing anything with it. It is almost the exact same scenario as total war(hammer), which has its fanbase dwindling into nothingness.
Pic related, pretty much all of the critics during the development are vindicated.
the only way to fix it would be to make another game, the whole mindset of the game is flawed
its like hoi4: economy is boring, politics are boring, diplomacy is boring, and instead of passable warfare game you have the pic of two generals standing to each other making goofy faces
Schizo thread?
Average gsg discussion.
>The first scene in their post release """reactions""" (paid for) video is of a soiboi being excited that a meme 'Jan Mayen' country near iceland is the first communist country ever in 1856, led by le hecking Karl Marx
Vicky Bros! Did you know that Victoria 3 is now being used in hospitals? That's right! Before any bowel surgery it is important the fecal matter is completely cleaned out. Instead of colon flushes, enemas, and fasting, patients can now just play Victoria 3 and the sheer excitement will completely empty their intestines! Violent rectum spasms which ensure spotlessly clean buttholes! ( I hears gays are getting into the benefits of playing Vicky 3 too! )
We live in truly wondrous times!
The scat-shitposter is the only positive thing of these threads
No, it got stale after the hundredth time.
Work on a mod homie and fix the game
>Work on a mod
For Victoria 3? No fricking thanks.
go forth homie
>Wiki can't help you
Unironically it's fricking over
>game has been out for two months
>modding wiki is mostly empty
It's over
what would you mod?
you can't change base mechanics
you can't even make new UI elements
top kek mein bruder hope one day based autist modders mod out troony commie economy and commie interest group system and 3 button war !
Work Wiz, you lazy piece of shit
What drives you to make embarrassing posts like this?
They posted here also
and have been posting like this since near the beginning of the Vicky 3 marketing cycle.
Trying to strawman the chud boogie man under their bed who is a Polish ESL who hates transfolx apparently
Don't you know modding is racist? Or otherwise totally ableist, exposing paradox for the incompetent morons they are.
You know full well this game is dead, just like this thread.
I appreciate your kind words Sir!
I can assure you Sir that my poos are quite fresh! I play Victoria 3 everyday!
>boring pro consensus “shitposting” from an illiterate underage ESL
you people are so easily amused
Would you switch sides if your milquetoast liberal pro-PDX opinions became the consensus here?
You've beenin every thread since launch calling anyone critical of vic3 an ESL.
Is it all done for (You)s, or are you severely autisitic? I'm genuinely curious.
If the game is a borefest and shitting on it became more fun you fail on every step of development Wiz
Around the world countless people who suffered from severe constipation are thanking Paradox for making Victoria 3. They pushed a few buttons, became excited, and now their anal passages are squeaky clean! ( Just a shame about all the HOT SHIT they squirted out into their pants, lol! )
I really cant tell anymore. Is the poo anon mocking the people who say vicky3 is good, or does he really think it is good, but has a rather weird way of saying so?
esl redditor getting upvotes from other esl redditors who dislike vic 3 for 3d models and 3bahten warfare
What the frick even is an ESL? Is it like a Nazi for leftists or a commie for rightists? A boogeyman term that can be applied to anyone regardless of actual English proficiency?
The old and trusted divide and conquered, the shills can't point a good thing in this cookie-cliker mess
Your game is trash Wiz, cry more.
No.. Firstly there is nothing to be gained by posting on Ganker. No upboats. On a highly niche and barely used slow moving board. Secondly based poos poster's comments are never directed at anyone. I believe he is just poo posting for the sake of pooing .I dont think he really has an opinion on the game either way.
He’s mocking the treads themselves, rather. Pooposting only really became a thing a few months after the war dd and a little before launch, likely as a regular shitpost at first. The problem is, by that point in time pretty much all discussion of vic3 was exhausted so the pooposts were basically the only actually interesting thing about those threads. The reason he’s still here is because discussions keep on looping back to the same stuff. There’s nothing new. It’s all the same shit. So why not add a little more shit to these threads?
Hard agree. I believe the poos poster ( or posters, might be more than one ) is just applying the old saying about a barrel of cream and a barrel of shit. If you add a drop of cream to a barrel of shit you have a barrel of shit. If you add a drop of shit to a barrel of cream you have a barrel of shit.
Does this game frick up Chrome for anyone else? If Vicky 3 crashes it makes my browser freeze and behave in odd ways (I can't open new tabs, but current ones keep working). I've never seen a game do this.
It might be because vicky3 is taking all of your memory and kicking out chrome's memory out of your ram.
Well, that's it, I tried way more than I should have to make this shit game at least runnable an entire playthrough, but no matter what, the performances always go to shit.
Pic related: 0 cultural fragmentation, very minor religious fragmentation most areas are 100% catholic, some are 100% buddhist, but for some unknown reason some rare places are still fragmented), but the game still freeze at every week turn, and adding buildings to the queue takes a few seconds every click.
I'm guessing, without certainty, that the simple fact that the pop works in different farm/factories fragment them, and hence ruin the performances.
Idk why I tried to make it work, even if the performances were better the game is still shit, but for real I don't understand how anyone, out of QA, devs, youtube shills, "video game journalists" or redditors, played more than a handful of hours and think "this is fine".
Monsieur... je m'agenouille...
>the simple fact that the pop works in different farm/factories fragment them, and hence ruin the performances
This would seem to be the main reason, along with the calculations for internal migration.
Have you tried deleting most buildings so you'll just have one mega building for each factory and plantation? This should at least in theory improve the performance after all the internal migration settles down. Did you do this with your mod that gives and removes homelands? Would you mind sharing it?
>Have you tried deleting most buildings so you'll just have one mega building for each factory and plantation?
Nope nope nope. Every click takes 5-6 seconds to register, even ctrl+click only delete them 10 by 10, so just for coal mines, that's 990 clicks, >80 minutes.
unresponsive UI while using 8+ cores and 16GB memory
truly a marvel of technology
>Did you do this with your mod that gives and removes homelands? Would you mind sharing it?
Not so much a mod as
>open 00_states.txt
>search the regex "add_homeland = .+"
>replace it all with add_homeland=<your next run culture>
tbh it probably frick the balance a bit, but who cares.
>go to 00_define.txt for good measure
>add a few 0 to ASSIMILATION_RATE, MIN_ASSIMILATION, CONVERSION_RATE and MIN_CONVERSION
>hey waiting for war exhaustion to tick up is boring
>pump up WAR_EXHAUSTION_OCCUPATION_FACTOR to 20 to halve the time it take to wait for ooga booga to surrender
>Since we want to minimize the hassle let's also x10 DIPLO_PLAY_BACK_DOWN_CHANCE_LOW_ESCALATION and DIPLO_PLAY_BACK_DOWN_CHANCE_HIGH_ESCALATION, it's fricking silly how small countries are ready to jump into a suicide war.
Really I wasn't posting to brag about the WC, my game files are so altered I should have just looked up console commands, just to prove that cultural fragmentation isn't what fricks up the game. Or at least not the only thing.
I think the poo poster is actually a false flag. His implied criticism, presumably that Vitoria 3 is such a shitty game it will make you poo uncontrollably, is just too simplistic. By making such a ridiculous accusation it attracts attention from players who enjoy the game and who make counter posts, pointing out how good Victoria 3 actually is. Since their posts make a lot more sense the poo poster is discredited, along with all the other people shitting on the game.
Dude, look through this thread.
There's not a single argumentative answer to his poooposts. The game is that bad I guess (I only played leaked beta though, don't know)
Like all Paradox games, I feel like the game needs some more flavour for different countries and cultures. This game has many flaws and isn't that good of a successor to Vic2 but it hits a very personal sweet spot of mine I only get from playing things like Waterworks! on Newgrounds and treating the civ games like a type of city builder.
I wonder if the poo-poster will join us in the next Victoria 3 thread? I hope so. I have sorta grown attached to the lil' fellah.
As long as the game remains this shit I'm sure the poo-poster will return to literally shitpost this game to death. Victoria 3 is such a massive disappointment nobody is discussing game strategies or how to "beat" the game. This thread took almost two weeks to fill up, its getting slower and slower.
Is Victoria3 is actually worst tortanic of 4x games of all times? I have never seen a game which is laggy and fundamentally broken as much as victoria3. Its a total disaster which cannot be salvaged.
At least it released feeling like it had something worth salvaging. Imperator took until the moment it was cancelled to reach the point of feeling like there was something worth building on. I'd be willing to bet a small amount of money that Victoria 3 has enough of a desperate fanbase that it'll make it through the redesign process Imperator couldn't. I'd bet a substantially larger amount of money that the process won't involve Wiz.
>At least it released feeling like it had something worth salvaging.
Every kernel of a decent idea in V3 has been implemented so terribly that they'd have to be rebuilt from zero to be "salvaged" into something decent.
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How do you have so many tabs open? My browser freezes when I spend too much time on KF or Poa.st
>discord in browser
>2 reddit tabs
>2 different adblockers
>but he’s using chrome so they won’t even work in a month
>16 million youtube tabs
>and he still has another browser open entirely
What are you doing?
newbie
Is that really the only insult you can think of? I almost feel bad for you now.
Paradox is fricking moronic
>tries to simulate France, the Bonapartists and the brief republic period before the establishment of the second empire.
>to do so, makes Charles Louis Napoleon (known as Napoleon III) head of the armed forces
and this is where Paradox fricks everything up
>they also make him a royalist (so he has the desire to reimplement the monarchy, should it be removed)
BUT, because he's a Royalist, and that personal traits have no influence whatsoever, and that Coups aren't a thing, the ONLY thing it does is guarantee that at every turn, he'll suck the King's wiener.
He won't ever accept the monarchy being removed, even if the main goal is to destitute the b*rbon king and put him in charge.
France, as far as I've seen, needs an actual reviolution that shuffles the government about to even have a chance at stepping off monarchy.
Paradox made the most unstable western europe country into the epitome of stability.
Can't wait for a DLC to fix that mess
They are trying their best anon, small indy company please understand.
And you are racist, the french republic/empire/republic was a beacon of stability and its people were not as important for the course of history as the various bantu tribes in africa!
What you reckon, will vicky 2 modders actually save Victor 3?
How do you play as economically weak nations? I can't build anything without going into debt.
Go into debt to get rich, like getting a loan to start a business
Alternatively, kill any military you have
Go into debt, and suck daddy britain's wiener till he pays your debts
Join a customs union / become a protectorate. Delete your army. Construction max. That's it.