Wait a second... you dick holes lied to me. This game is fricking awesome. Honestly, this is one of the best shooters I've ever played.
Wait a second... you dick holes lied to me. This game is fricking awesome. Honestly, this is one of the best shooters I've ever played.
It's not a good Doom game, but it's an excellent Doom 3 game.
Strangely accurate.
I'm finding that it's more intense than Doom, Doom II, and Doom 64.
>I'm finding that it's more intense than Doom, Doom II, and Doom 64.
Play "Back to Saturn X" Ep1 an Ep2 doom WADs.
Its the best shooter ever made.
is that any good or is it annoying slaughtershit with too many enemies in a small room?
>is that any good or is it annoying slaughtershit with too many enemies in a small room?
Episode 1(30 levels) is stressful, but manageable.
Episode 2(30 levels) starts to get ridiculously hard. I had to cheat to get through one of the levels. But it was a hidden one so I guess it was hidden for a reason.
It's great in it's own right. is spot on.
Now, download the mod Bubba Lego Tep and prepare for the most polished moronation only acheived through pure unfiltered autism.
Just checked that mod and I might download Doom 3 just for that one mod.
what is a good doom game? pixelshit bing bing wahoo?
pixelshit ≠ bing bang wahoo
it feels like it, you are just speeding around the map collecting powerups and blasting suprise closet enemies
Should have dropped the 3, marketed it better as "Remember Doom? Well this is if it was more realistic." Literally only the name holds it back.
Doom 3 is perfect as it is, this is the problem with you young gays looking back at things you never experienced at the time,
Doom 3 was the future.
doom 3 was boring as shit even playing it on launch day
Go play mario kart
sorry zoomie, doom 3 was shit compared to 1 and 2
Be silent you little underage c**t you weren't even born then.
You really think companies would release a fricking pixelshit shooter in the 00s? just because you in the present soi squeal over pixelshit? you are an moron of the highest order.
>seething this much when called out
3 is the worst game in the franchise and almost lead to call of doomy
cope
Doom 3 is one of the best fps ever made you are an idiot.
okay, redditor
ironic because your opinion is pure reddit.
>blindly praising the worst game in the series because its "LE HECKIN SPOOKERINO"
>not the reddit opinion
>blindly hate one of the best games because it isn't like an old pixel shooter.
You are a fricking redditor hipster nostalgia gayging
>only argument is "BUT ITS LE 3D"
surrender accepted
>please dev making more 2d pixel shooters waaah i wanna regresss
you have dunning kruger. You are looking at things from the pov of a kid born after the things.
Id had an arena shooter, and iceskating pixelshit was no longer popular or what people wanted.
theres more pixel shooters today with more mechanical depth than doom 3 could ever dream of having
seethe, cope, and dilate redditoid
impossible you dont even look up or down in these games. The gameplay revolves around screaming around levels holding fire. No aiming required.
You are a tard. Text book dunning kruger.
doom 3 has ZERO depth
your dick has zero depth
>pixel pixel pixel
brainrot/troll
ignored either way
>gimme dem pixels
lol ok moron
heres one serve of pixelshit
Its the cinematic adaptation of Doom 1 & 2, but not in a bad way. Its also le reboot so calling it 3 was dumb regardless.
not as dumb as calling 2016 Doom. Messes up web searches.
I was thinking of something like this what if it had the same font and ID logo so people know its a doom game but call it doomed or something hammer in that its one dude versus hell and he isnt a demigod that can run at mach 10 hes a guy trying to get off a sinking ship.
It's fricking dogshit though
have a nice day
Spotted the zoomers, frick off and play Valorant
It's a dogshit Doom game, but it's also a dogshit horror game
Why are people autistic about game names?
you get bitter stupid gays that just hate anything after the first entry and pull a "don't call it doom 3" tantrum
Think of it as cultural inertia. Like a rock rolling down a hill, a product moves in a direction and as it picks up speed the name is associated with that direction. A sudden jarring change to the character of a product is a sudden change to that cultural inertia. That goes for most products, if ben n' jerrys shifted focus to making war themed cars it'd be like the rock suddenly started rolling uphill.
its just manchildren crying at their food touching
i dunno if you call something the name of a series i kind of expect it to play like the series, otherwise you're just trying to trick me into buying your unrelated game
>It's not a good X game
>but it's an excellent Y game.
dropped
Problem with Doom 3 was that Carmack was trying to make it more like Resident Evil and System Shock 2 but like all previous Id games they spent all the time making an engine and then 3 months to make an actual game and so it was just a rushed hackjob that is still enjoyable for what it is.
But yeah Doom 3 was supposed to be an "open" survival horror game and not a linear haunted house shooter.
>carmack
carmack had nothing to do with the gameplay, he's an engine monkey
pic related is the first bump mapped object in vidya
HAHAHA LE GAME IS LE DARK LMFAOOO
It's kind of hilarious how bad the criticisms for this game are:
>it's too dark!
>you can't use a weapon and the flashlight at the same time!
>the shotgun sucks!
It's clear to me now that all that stuff is by design and the game would suffer without those features.
you don't even need the flashlight to complete it. Its really just an immersion thing.
Critics are basically saying they suck at video games and are afraid of the dark every time they bring it up.
True. Damn near everything has glowing little lights on it, even the items and mosnters, and you only need to flashlight when it's pitch dark.
i love the flashlight thing but the shotgun is kinda underwhelming. it would be cool if there was a super shotgun or something, but it does too little damage.
The expansion has the super shotgun
doesn't matter what you think, the fact that BFG edition let you use a weapon and a flashlight at the same time is THE DEV admitting "yeah we fricked up"
also see: Fast Sail in Wind Waker and every Final Fantasy that comes with a speed multiplier option
BFG edition is crap. Also all it proves is they are pandering to idiots like you
>add a speedx QoL years later
>haha i was right
ffs you idiotic homosexual
I seriously hope you Black folk aren't defending the stupid darkness that isn't scary, it's just annoying as you have to either shoot by sound or melee with the flashlight to beat easy encounters, that didn't become harder because of the darknesss, they just became more annoying.
Next you're gonna say that every locked door that requires you to listen through a PDA or two to get the password is comfy and good.
Doom 3 was baby-tier easy, with some lighting issues and STOP SIT DOWN AND LISTEN FOR STORY TIME locked door system.
It was a mediocre game at best, quit trying to make the game sound better than it is. The darkness isn't interesting, it's janky and annoying. That said I beat it atleast 4 times as I had it as a teen and I had no other games to play.
>he got filtered by the darkness
I beat the game a gjsigjsjillion times Black person, it struck me as annoying for most of the game. It did not filter me.
i don't care i love real darkness in games. I hate companies pandering to you casual homosexuals.
You end up getting games now with night as bright as day.
Real darkness can be nice and comfy if implemented correctly, but Doom 3 is not that game.
you are a stupid c**t stfu already. It absolutely is that game you disingenuous moronic prick.
God damn homosexuals like you killed gaming frick you.
Much better than Nu Doom tbh
Really? I was considering trying Zoom Eternal...
If you want an actually good shooter, just go for Ultrakill
Or you'll make even the devil cry
That doesn't even make sense. At least have the tongue wrapped around it in lieu of lips.
Your trolling is tiresomely obvious but I'll reply anyway.
As someone who played Doom3 basically annually trying to find some hidden quality to it; no, it really isn't. The combat is slow and flaccid, enemies don't react to being shot and take too much damage in addition to coming in small groups. Guns are basic and sound weak.
It's not a terrible game, but painfully mediocre, and can't seem to decide whether it wants to be a shooter or a System Shock style action-adventure game.
>shooter or a System Shock style action-adventure game.
these things aren't mutually exclusive
>enemies don't react to being shot
I can confirm that's not the case. They recoil when hit.
>can't seem to decide whether it wants to be a shooter or a System Shock style action-adventure game.
Doom was always supposed to be a System Shock-style game. That's why the Tom Hall Doom Bible was all about. Romero rebooted the project into a fairly simplistic FPS game.
The same way that Quake was supposed to be a high-fantasy first-person-RPG about some axe wielding demigod? Shit, all these old games that we always considered pure and shining examples of the medium, having rocky development histories is a mindfrick.
i don't hold it against them for not delivering the Quake rpg.
id was doing some crazy wizard shit with the tech at the time. Getting Quake to run on that ancient hardware was already a huge achievement.
And that's why, despite all the bullshit he did to ID later on, he is largley credited as the face of DOOM and the guy that saved.
Don't get me wrong, I love System Shock 2. But DOOM works so well because of its simplicity and focus on action. I feel a bit bad for Tom but it needed to be done.
doom 3 is garbage
you will never be respected
you are the oblivion fan of the doom series
>doom 3 is garbage
See, that's what you guys kept saying, but when I actually played it I found that's not the case.
not everyone can be a patrician Doom3 fan. Back to your basedboy pixelshit containment.
thats doom 2
I actually prefer Oblivion over Skyrim.
You must be at least 18 to post here.
>defending doom 3
12 year old redditor moment
kys
must have been born without a tongue you tasteless gay
oldest goodest isn't taste
If your taste is so much better, name three better FPS games.
quake 4
kingpin
aliens colonial marines
lamo
I've been meaning to give Quake 4 another go. Was sorely disappointed with it back when it came out but I think I'd have a greater appreciation for it now.
Not that anon, but you absolutely should. From what I remember the combat in Q4 can be pretty intense and fun.
Oh yeah Q4 is actually pretty fun. I don't remember why it got ignored.
The first half sucks.
Played it pretty recently, on General difficulty. Berserkers are just as brutal as I remember (one shot Black folk)
quake 4 its good but not better
Quake 4 is what Doom 3 should have been.
>Quake 4 is old enough to be remembered fondly despite causing a fricking shitstorm and being shat on by everyone when it released
quake 4 gets remembered fondly because the stroggification scene is well done, its a decent game, and doesn't have redditor shilling it constantly so its allowed to be remembered how it was
>people like Doom 3
>noooo you can't do that redditor shilling
homosexual i like all the Id games for various reasons.
Its hilarious how you actual redditors come here seeking "consensus"
It was received positively at release you fricking idiot
>aliens colonial marines
Frick right off Randy
It almost rivals Dead Space in terms of boring, easy, and predictable gameplay. Doom 3 has awesome atmosphere, but there is nothing to enjoy from the gameplay.
i wish there were more games made in the style of doom 3.
I hate ign for attacking it.
They did the same thing to Alien Isolation another great game in the fps horror genre.
If you like Dead Space 1 and the movie Aliens, then you'll like this game. I love those, so I loved DOOM 3. The main menu music is awesome too.
the opening of Doom 3 is kino off the bat, the voice acting gives you chills and sets the mood of the universe.
Reminder. Doom 3 is just some jump scare 2deep4u bullshit game where everything is too serious. Meanwhile the other chad game is about blowing demons up without hesitation.
jumping around like mario and collecting fuknopops*
Its clever how you basedboys learned to project your patheticness
other way around wokelord
>2deep4u
Wtf? Its pure horror pulp. If you think the game is trying to he deep you might be moronic.
not might, he is moronic
>Wtf? Its pure horror pulp.
That's what makes it moronic. Doom was never supposed to be scary. Yall finna think that's what made Doom 3 interesting.. It isn't.. So is the stupid lore they throw at you in the game.
Nah keep suckin dick homosexual
>yall finna
>Doom was never supposed to be scary
The original Doom design documents actually state the opposite. Tom Hall wanted the game to be scary and he intended for the levels to get scarier as the plot progressed. It was Carmack who shot down the idea because he thought games didn't need much of a plot.
Carmack is such a fricking moron. Frick him.
You watch your mouth, he’s a technological genius
>The original Doom design documents actually state the opposite.
It doesn't matter. It was a game intended to be hella metal and playing this game as an action oriented title, not a horror game. Doom Eternal captured that. Doom 3 was thinking it was Half-Life and failed horribly with cheap scary moments.
Have you played Doom 3 recently? The combat is actually intense as hell and, despite the lack of heavy metal, the sound design is superb.
>OMG I'M THE HECKIN SLAYER! RIP AND TEAR LMAO! SO FRICKIN EPIC!!!
>JUST FINISHED RUNNING AROUND THE CRAMPED ARENA IN A CIRCLE 15 TIMES WAITING FOR A DEMON TO SPAWN SO I CAN GET SOME AMMO!
>BACK TO LE FORTRESS OF DOOM TO PURCHASE SOME BADASS UPGRADES!!!
this but unironically
sure you did
there was a reason Tom was fired tbh
>sure you did
How many hundreds more do I need to play? I got a stack of big boxes taller than you, son.
>there was a reason Tom was fired tbh
Carmack was an autist. The same factors that led to Hall being booted also led to Tim Willits (who directed Doom 3, didn't he?) taking over the company by alienating the likes of Romero and McGee. Carmack is kind of a frickwit when it comes to social skills, and he has no ability to tell when he's being played or when he's making a stupid decision. The whole Facebook/Oculus fiasco showed that.
Was Tim Willits the dude that got McGee fired?
Yep.
Berserkers were such jobbers in Q2, it's nice that they were properly scary in 4.
are you moronic? you can make a fast-paced game without it being pixel shit
That isnt the point of Doom 3 you actual moron. Its not an arena shooter or iceskating game.
>Its not an arena shooter or iceskating game.
hence why people were mad with it you imbecile
>want to shoot monsters
>can't because you need to stop and listen to some intern read an EPIC audio log
t. never played the game.
The audio logs are optional. You can go fast through the entire game without picking them up.
Again you are an idiot basedboy.
Not to mention you can still play the game while the audio logs are playing.
>Yep.
What an butthole.
What was his problem anyway
Willits is an opportunist. He's a typical cut-throat executive type, and this was alien to id Software's culture in the 90s, and nobody was prepared for it. Carmack was kind of a moron, but he wasn't a malicious moron. None of the folks at id had any kind of agenda. Willits wanted to climb the ladder, and viewed his co-workers as competition. He had no qualms about taking credit for things he didn't make, and he had no issues sabotaging his fellow employees. Sandy Petersen hasn't named him directly, but spoke of a "snake in the grass" at id Software who was responsible for all the original talent leaving or being fired. The situation with Romero... like Romero was partially at fault, but Willits was almost certainly setting him up to get fired along the way. I wouldn't be surprised if the maps that Willits was credit with were mostly made by his sister or something. But the guy is, according to McGee a "serial credit thief".
>WOWIE ZOWIE LE HECKIN JUMPSCARINO THIS GAMERINGO IS JUST LIKE LE HECKIN EPIXOR FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDRICO'S BAZINGA
skill issue
This guy probably sucks dicks as a cat girl in Final Fantasy XIV.
llmfao
>monster closets are either blatantly obvious or impossible to predict
>spawns designed just to frick with you and stop you kiting backwards
>spawns aren't the same every reload for some reason
>when they do the generic wave after wave encounter it's always more than you expect to the point that you sometimes just sit there shooting at one point
Simultaneously fricking moronic and pure kino. Although to be fair, I probably wouldn't like it as much without the well done space station + in-universe UI explanations and the atmosphere.
Doom 3 is fun if you're scared and going slow, reading the PDAs and absorbing the world.
If you try to go fast, the enemies spawning in every single room and closet and closet in a closet gets tedious, since it's framed as this big scary thing with the lights going dim and the thunder and summoning circles every time a fart-sniffing imp spawns in to die instantly.
Also, the imps placed right behind doors that instantly jump at you and can't be dodged piss me off. You literally can't dodge them unless you opened the door from the side, because they curve around the doorframe in midair if they saw you. They're nearly 1-hit kills on Nightmare.
But I still like the weird lumpy art direction and the shadows.
I also wish games kept the "interact with in-world screens" mechanic. Not one single game does it as well as Doom 3.
This thread made me remember I bought this game for $4 on my Switch Lite, I'm playing it now. I remember when this game was cutting edge and I was so happy my PC could even run it, now it's on a lil handheld I play in bed for $4... what a time to be alive.
If 12 year old me playing Doom on his unlit GBA under a lamp could see this it'd blow his mind.
Doom popularized the boomer shooter genre to the point they were called Doom-clones but ID was late to the party by the time mouse aim / twin stick shooters came about. They were really looking for a way to reinvent the franchise to make it stand out from all the others. Immersion and horror was the path they chose and it actually worked out.
Like DKC 3 everyone kinda rewrote the history of this thing to being bad but it got rave reviews and sold like hotcakes. I guess because they never made another and newer and better shooters came out everyone just wrote it off as must not of been good.
I replayed the game in VR and it was much more enjoyable when I ignored all the shitty lore. It kills the pacing of an already slow game.
it can be played both ways, as a slow crawl or a fast corridor shooter.
The interactable screens blew my mind back in the day. Peak TECHNOLOGY moment.
would be a good game if every encounter wasn't *spawns behind you*.
What's the problem? That's part of the fun.
because every encounter is the same
this is hilarious, and doom 1/2 etc are not the same?
is this a doom 1 or 2 thread? are you moronic? my apologies, i didnt know i was talking to a fricking moron
so your complaint about doom 3 is its just like all the other doom games.
You are moronic.
protip: all the gays seething at this game are wad troons from /vr/
Why are Doom 2 levels so fricking trash?
>Carmack is such a fricking moron. Frick him.
>technically bara
>but also fat juicy ass
>also monsters/demons
fricking justmegabenewell
Map duck to right click, put sprint on an easy button to hold while moving(For me its Tab).
Then go ballistic with the shotgun, bobbing in and under enemy fire. One of the funnest fps if you can master this
Play more shooters.
Why? I've played all the good ones. The vast majority are shit anyway.
i've played just about every shooter there is and Doom 3 is in my top 10
wow ok. I genuinely don't fricking get it. It's a solid 6/10 game. Ruined by being undercooked and underpolished. Q4 is so much better it ain't even funny.
>I genuinely don't fricking get it
Right back at you. It's got great atmosphere and graphics, awesome sound design, weapon varriety, good gunplay, good roster of monsters, and a servicable sci-fi horror story with great voice acting. All of that packed into a 10-15 hour single player campaign across 27 levels. So what's so undercooked and underpolished about that?
Atmosphere, yeah. Graphics were good for the time. Weapons feel somewhat redundant, like PG is basically CG with slightly bigger projectile and slightly smaller magazine. Roster of monsters is mostly great, but they're extremely underutilized and some of them are undercooked. Take Wraith, a cool looking demon which will never hit you because it "teleports" (by turning invisible and invincible) right in front of you with a big red pentagram to indicate its presence, and then you one-hit it with a shotgun.
Imps are great, but the entire first half of the game is imp spam with some maggots (who are basically melee imps).
What else is undercooked? Well, the entire armor system. You get only green armor and it protects from 30% of damage, but you don't get better blue armor, and you have so many pick-ups I'm pretty sure it's impossible to run out. Just weird
Doom 3 aged like fine wine, unlike HL2.
doom 3 aged like milk
like 1000 euro italian cheese*
The soundtrack in this game blew my mind when it came out. Not because it was especially good, but because of how they tied repetitive noises to specific objects on the map to create the music. so if you were standing still it just sounded like industrial noise but as you moved through the map they formed a rhythm as you passed by each object and your speed controlled the tempo. It was a clever way to handle it and for me is the most memorable part of the game.
I always liked the pulsing rhythm of the emergency lights.
Still irritated that BFG edition ditched the flashlight as a weapon. Having that available for a quick melee was indispensable.
The meme being pushed is that "It's a bad Doom game but it's a great game overall" and since I was only like 6 when the game launched so I didn't really get into Doom until far later and thus got to play it with totally fresh eyes and no real expectations:
No. No it really isn't. It's mediocre all throughout.
There weren't any pixelshit shooters being made post 2000. Doom 64 was pushing it. Games were going 3d before it, thats what people expected, thats what they wanted, better graphics. Not a regression.
The mandela affect and zoomers is amazing to see. They think old games were a style rather than a tech limitation.
>every monster, aside from the hellknight, is a 100% downgrade in design and mechanical depth
>bland levels
>every weapon feels and sounds like a wet fart
>the shotgun
>cyberdemon turned from boss to thing you just ignore while you shoot imps till it dies
>the most bland hell possible
doom 3 was shit, cope
your life is shit
>monsters are a downgrade
Kek really turning 2d sprites into 3d is a downgrade?
>mechanical depth
lol what, its intrinsically more complicated because its 3d.
>he doesn't know how to use the shotgun
noob
you are just shit
>half the monsters go from interesting designs to grey untextured blobs
>multiple enemies can have every encounter with them negated by just shooting them removing any depth of having to dodge shit or consider where you're fighting
>NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU THE SHOTGUN THE WORKHORSE WEAPON IN EVERY DOOM GAME BEFORE AND AFTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT BECAUSE IT LE HECKIN JUST DOES
you can kill imps in one shot with the shotgun, you can kill hellknights with them in a few shots.
Its still the "workhorse" you just suck ass and are imbecilic.
post some wojaks
the shotgun looks like shit, sounds like shit, and feels like shit
dumb zoomies screeching otherwise will never change facts
your face looks like shit. You suck at games.
>still no argument
>is that is that a PIXELSHIT SHOOTER IM GONNA NOSTALGIAAAAAA
>no argument but screeching about pixels
go back
Assuming they hit anything that isn't at dick sucking length.
its intentional, the game is all about facing your fears, that includes getting face to face with the enemies so yo can blast them,
Its not for the timid.
Except it's not scary it's fricking annoying.
Plus that excuse doesn't work with the fact most other weapons work fine at great distances and you have a shit ton of ammo for them. You claim the shotgun is the "warhorse" but you can very easily play the game with the Plasma Gun for most of the game with ammunition to spare.
the fact that people are too pussy to use the shotgun properly seems to indicate they are scared of getting close
They don't use it is cause as I mentioned, it's total shit and other weapons are more useful and powerful.
ive literally proven it to you its not shit and morons cant use it because they are stupid,
You are a moron
git gud
go back
People don't use the shotgun because it doesn't fricking work properly.
I don't get why all the other weapons work the way they're supposed to but not the fricking shotgun.
You shut the frick up you lying son of a prostitute.
Only contrarians fricking defend the shotgun
why do people comment like experts on games they havent played.
Doom 3 is mostly using the shotgun and reloading it.
Its the most cost effective weapon for most encounters.
No that would be the Plasma Gun or the SMG.
Only redditors defend Doom 3 you halfwit.
it takes one shell to kill an imp. You lost the argument.
You are a complete dunning kruger dumbshit.
It can possibly take one shell to kill an imp.
And only if you shove the barrel right up it's nose.
It's fricking trash anon and you're being a contrarian because this is the only way you can get attention
no... it takes exactly one shell to kill an imp.
You lost the argument, stop being an idiot on the internet.
>Stop being an idiot
I'm not the one defending Doom 3 on the internet
The shotgun is not fine.
You're not fine.
Anyone that defends garbage game design is not fine.
Doom 3 is one of the best games ever made. You aren't a true Id fan.
>You're not a true fan if you don't eat shit.
Well you got me there
If you hate Doom 3 you are frankly moronic.
I'd rather be a moron than a liar
you are both a moron and a liar
The only liar here is you.
Trying to convince everyone here that Doom 3 is actually good instead of just a mediocre nothingburger of a game and a massive letdown.
>stop liking what i don't like
No. You lose autism moron.
this is super ironic seeing as your kind is responsible for the garbage sea of pixel shit on the market and turning doom into le quirky platformer
Why are you putting words into my mouth?
Have you ran out of arguments
thread reeks of /vr/ troons dilating.
you troons from /vr/ and doom world are so pathetic you actually need the hotpockets to come save you.
I bet you nearly roped when call of doom got shitcanned and when 2016 was announced and was focused on having good gameplay
i was disappointed that we didn't get a post apoc hell on earth game.
The art was fantastic and much more mature, than the marvelesque doom eternal.
I guess you need capeshit in your doom.
>the art was fantastic
okay reddit
you pixel shit gays are mentally ill
Go play minecraft you homosexual redditor
it's literally a pre-prealpha using rage assets
You are underage
watch the whole thing, they clearly made a ton of art for it
>redditoid gets triggered again
lol
>he says while being reddit
>Doom 3 troony
Why don't you dilate with that shotgun of yours.
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LIKE WHAT I LIKE AAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME Black personMAN
why don't you double jump off a cliff
Because the fall damage won't kill me.
God you're such an idiot
the lava will you dumbass
Well maybe you should've said there was lava then you nincompoop
>still no argument other than stamping his feet and screaming
the irony in this post
>Doom 3 is just bad..l because it is!
>play doom wads!
>doom 3 good because..... IT JUST HECKIN IS OKAY!!!!!!! LE PIXELSSSSSSSSSSS
he's a moron but D3shotgun is fine
it's an SSG up close and it's a random cannon once you move past 1 meter away from the target
fun risk/reward weapon
what brings D3 down is badly designed and repetitive encounters
>anon is right but
Nah frick off you are a moron.
The shotgun works if you use it properly.
>repetitive encounters
relative to what? God damn you people are dumb.
>I've never played doom 3 but I watched le redditmanlives and he said it was le good to game is le good!
i've been playing doom 3 every couple of years since it released.
You need to go back.
git gud
sure you have, reddit
now go back
you suck at games kid. Go jerk off to your pixel crap there with your fellow toaster slavs.
I love watching contrarians try to do mental gymnastics to defend doom 3['s abomination of a shotgun
Anon... you are the contrarian. You are an idiot.
nothing is more contrarian than defending doom 3's shitty shotgun
even cod shovelware could do most justice to shotguns than doom 3 did
You need to go back you reddit dumb c**t Black folk. Theres no consensus here.
You are just bad at games
go back
>lol what, its intrinsically more complicated because its 3d.
whatever moron. it clearly devolved in level design, enemy placement, the sheer amount of action occurring on screen, and just about every other aspect outside of mouselook. which isn't even used well considering it has no verticality in its level design anyways.
Doom 3 is a good tech demo. Halo 2 is a good Xbox Live test bed. Half Life 2 is a trash tech demo.
> Halo 2 tech demo.
You are insane. did you forget the super great campaign that depended the sci Fi universe and had a ton of memorable scenes and ideas other games copied?
Oh yeah there was coop campaign too.
I think the Doom 3 Pinky is a lot better than the Doom 1&2 design.
>no you see if the game isn't pixels i don't want it
seethe you regressive braindead homosexual
>zoomie gets triggered by games having good gameplay
many such cases
>he thinks jerking off over old pixel games makes him an old gamer.
Kiddo doom wasn't even the best in its genre, that was Marathon. You will never be cool.
Play Back to Saturn X.
Reminder that doom 1 and 2 STILL get new wads and TCs because of how timeless and loved they are
Meanwhile doom 3 is rotting forgotten in a ditch
Doom 3 gets new content. It doesn't have a legion of dial8ers wasting their lives on it true.
>still seething that no one besides reddit contrarians gives a shit about doom 3
>boasting your game is mega popular
essence of reddit. Only reddit hipsters give a flying frick about old as shit retro games
>coping this much
sad
seething troony
cope and seethe
dial8
go back
>>>/vr/ take your nostalgia gay cancer back to your containment board
>basic games that are effectively templates for designing a simple 3d game get newbies experimenting on them
>more advanced 3d game with closed source engine and a more narrative focus doesn't
let's just stick to sticks and stones since every moron can replicate them
the only doom i played was when u could install ipodlinux and play doom on there
play more than 2 leevls, every level for 95% of the game is the exact same and its so fricking borign
This is a very pathetic thread.
Its a doom 3 shill thread, being a pathetic joke is inherent to the OP
Doom good doom game
Doom 2 good doom game
Doom 64 good doom game
Doom 3 good game but not good doom game
Doom 2016 good doom game
Doom Eternal good game but not good doom game
the good but not good X meme is the gayest shit pushed by complete pindicks on here.
Hbomber tier memes.
You can just imagine the little homosexual posting this shit.
Not a meme.
When a game radically abandons its core identity its no longer an X game.
Brotherhood of Steel and Tactics are technically Fallout games in name but play nothing like how Fallout games should (1/2/NV)
oh its a new vegas troon im arguing with.
explains so much.
Anon you are an idiot. They were never going to release a 2d Doom 3 you fricking moron.
Your age group cannot mentally process or comprehend the history of game development.
2016 is better than doom 3
cope seethe and dial 7+1
the best part about Doom 16 was it copying the setting style of Doom 3 with the UAC base stuff.
Doom 2016 environments are actually inferior to Doom 3. It has superour combat, but barely.
Thank god for Eternal being FPS perfection.
Doom 16 is dumb design. Its basically a series of unrealistic fps arenas linked up by Doom 3 style rooms.
Doom 3 wasn't realistically designed in the slightest. It was designed to look cool and to play as they wanted it to play (as in, have a ton of tight corridors and monster closets).
lmao lol frick off
>dude it's realistic for stairs to drop and reveal a bunch of completely empty metallic rooms with sliding doors
>it's like uh for maintenance
>also that berserk helmet there? probably left by some research team you just missed an audio log
how is this any different from literally ANY doom fricking mong
The difference is that no one has ever claimed that any Doom had realistic environments. Because they don't, they're build for gameplay and, in case of Doom 3, to show off the engine.
Which is one of the few things I genuinely love about D3. Every other room there's some glowing contraption/thingy/doodad which emits light and casts shadows. They're mostly cool looking and unique and they make neat sci-fi sounds. It's so comfy and it's strange to me how D2016, a much more competent and polished game, seems so much more lifeless comparatively.
the criticism earlier itt was Doom 3 was too realistic.
Gtfo here you idiot.
You called D2016 arenas "unrealistic", I merely pointed out D3 isn't realistic either.
they are unrealistic because they are Quake 3 arenas.
It completely intentionally breaks immersion because you little homosexuals whined about Doom E being too realistic
>they are unrealistic because they are Quake 3 arenas
And D3 levels are unrealistic because they're a bunch of monster closets/bottomless pits etc.
>realistic
people complained about doom 3 being slow as shit, having shitty weapons, and being nothing but a glorified tech demo
luckily Id listened and made 2016 a good playing video game
difference is 3 redditors try claim its realistic and grounded and epic
yet the reddit community for retro Doom is bigger than 3.
Is there even a 3 reddit community? lol no
its garbage game design you are a frickwit
because there are multiple communities for doom 1 and 2
no one cares about doom 3 besides contrarians
>theres millions of mcdonalds fans
>only a small number of caviar fans
>food analogy
doom 3 brainlets everyone
>he thinks an analogy is wrong because it mentions food
moron
2016 isn't 2D and follows the game design of 1, 2 and 64.
Stop projecting false arguments.
Doom 3 is less a Doom game and more an Horror FPS game, still good but doesn't follow the same gameplay philosophy and approach. Doom 3 was a tech demo first and a game second
2016 wasnt possibly in 2004 you zoomer moron
Doom, Doom 2, Doom 64, Doom 2016 is Doom Core, everything else can safely be ignored.
Only sound opinions in this thread. Why do Doom3ers always shit up doom threads by being disingenuous fricks. Doom 3 is a good game but its not a fricking doom game
the thread is a Doom 3 thread. Are you that hilarious tard on /vr/ that seethes at Doom 3 in a Doom 3 thread and Silent Hill 2?
Yes
My opinion must be known.
What does anything you said has to do with my post? I like Doom 3, you doodoo brain
>make blatant troll thread
>have a mental breakdown when people show up to make fun of you
i didn't make the thread, you have low iq. I was under the impression you homosexuals make the threads to bait Doom 3 fans so you can spam hate at them.
if you like only pixel doom fair enough but don't post this stupid shit that Doom 3 isn't a Doom game. Its just done in a different style you don't like.
>2016 is pixel shit
?
ok, you like jumpy QTE doom same shit.
>2016 is QTE Doom
You're confusing Eternal and 2016, anon.
press E for fatality is QTE
oh you want me to pull up the threads tard?
Press E to <action> is in almost every game, guess all of em are QTEs you disingeous frick
you don't get it
push E to interact is le bad
grinding the game to a halt to read someone diary and use a shitty touchpad is le EPIC
>theres actually homosexuals defending what bethesda did to doom
>circlejerking over 1994 era fps
>they are calling others reddit
The absolute cancer
Samuel Hayden is sexually attractive who cares what Bethesda does to Doom. It was always an inferior Marathon anyways
It's no worse than what Willits and Carmack were doing
>homosexuals defending ID nearly raping doom to death with 3 and call of doom
>circlejerking over the worst game in the franchise
go back, redditman
Id saved Doom with Doom 3 you are objectively an idiot.
stop defending this
You cuck
>Id saved Doom with Doom 3
yeah it saved it so hard there had been no major entries in 11 years and the only thing people did when remembering Doom 3 was making the same old "le black screen" joke
before Doom 3 there had been no major entries since 1997, 7 years. Longer if you count pc only.
You are an idiot.
Imagine hating on the first true 3d Doom.
doom 3 killed the franchise longer
cope
>franchise is basically dead since mid 90s.
>3d Doom is released and saves it
Kys you revisionist zoomer tard
You are the same moron shit fricking up the Fallout fandom
>series is dead for 10 years, technically 7 because 64 was good
>doom 3 launches
>kills the series for 12 years
cope on a rope
64 was only on n64
No that'd be Rage. It killed Id until 2016.
You are dumb
>talking about the doom franchise
>b-b-b-b-b-b-bb-b-b-b-but rage
sorry zoomie, 3 killed the franchise until 2016 saved it with gameplay that was as close to classic doom in 3d as you could get
Doom 3 was successful though, it's more likely Rage's development prevented more Doom games.
>but other game!!!!!!!
I recall that one being a big deal for Carmack and taking a long time to release.
How did Doom 3 save the series? It got that movie a year after it's release and combined they seemed to just completely destroy any appreciation for the series until 2016. That's over a decade of silence.
Same way Fallout 3 saved Fallout from purgatory.
you have been banned multiple times for your shit frick off
>banned for opinions
That's simply not true. I'll have you know I've only been banned for posting furry porn once or twice.
you got banned simultaneously for spamming hate against Doom 3 and SH2 in two seperate threads at the same time.
You forced consensus gays are insufferable reddit cancer
Seek help schizo
>this much cope
this much dialating
its trolls, they are praising Q4 to spite Doom 3 fans. kek hilariously pathetic
>REEEEEE DOOM 3 IS LE HECKIN GOOD
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO U CANT HECKIN LIKE QUAKE 4 UR A TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Ganker has and will always have shit taste, so does tv and mu. This places sucks and all the people are stupid, except me :^]
old good new bad isn't a personality my dudes. Grow the frick up.
Mindlessly gobbling isn't a personality either tho chief
refusing to buy any games isn't taste you idiot.
As a TF2 scout main who's used to glue myself to my opponent to maximize damages I don't see what's wrong with doom 3.
i know, right? remember that part where you go down a tight dark hallway that leads to a dead end and a monster teleports behind you? shit i remember that part it was one of the best parts
The duct tape mod ruined the game and there's nothing you can say to change my mind.
God forbid people use the actual guns in the game instead of beating things to death in two hits with a flash light
>revisionists calling other revisionists
Lmao, lol
lets just continue making Doom 3 threads because it riles up nostalgia homosexual pixelshitters
>shizo is still seething about pixels
I notice how you keep ignoring any post mentioning that 2016 blows doom 3 the frick out
you would hope a game 12 years later was better than the last you idiot
holy cope
holy mong
how is this any different from classic Doom level design? you gays complain about secret rooms revealing enemies, thats doom.
>t. has never played doom 1 or 2
i played both on release. I have my original Doom 2 cd lying around in my room.
Gtfo here
sure you do zoomie
Doom 64 is basically enemies constantly appearing out of closets or teleporting behind you with little warning.
I really don't get why its praised but Doom 3 is criticised for much easier spawns.
Its hypocrisy.
how the frick is he wrong that is ABSOLUTELY og Doom design, monster closets + areas repopulating when you so much as fricking sneeze
they are trolls dude, these gays don't play games, they are internet kudos seeking little homosexuals.
The internet equivalent of posers.
>how is this any different from classic Doom level design
It's not very different, it's just smaller and generally more linear. But I didn't say it's drastically different.
Why are you all feeding to doom 3 bait poster?
Doom 3 has always been kino, especially with the AbsoluteHD mod. It's my favorite FPS after Half Life 2, It's also the best survival horror game ever
>awesome
Ah yes, I too like a game with a combat encounters consisting of
>large empty corridor
>demonic chanting
>imp appears behind you
Game is dogshit as action game and dogshit as horror game
Obligatory
>you know that giant iconic boss that is basically the posterboy for doom, the cyberdemon? we should make that the boss of doom 3
>okay, but lets make it a slow slimpdicked nothing burger of a boss that the player just ignores for the entire fight! have the entire "boss" be just shooting imps until the boss falls down and dies in a cutscene
Based OP loves a video game and causes geriatric /vr/ old men to have multiple heart attacks, the death count in this thread alone must be in the hundreds. Countless wrinkly walking coffins are being offed as you read this post kek. Death to boomers, your dungeon crawlers were never good.
OP is a tard who hates DE as well.
Its probably a doom3 poster trying to latch onto 2016/eternal because people like those and doom 1/264 more than 3
I don't see him killing DE threads like the senile old men do, anyone who causes the premature death of these bitter aged vermin is an ally to me. Death to /vr/ boomers and their shitty dungeon crawlers with auto aim.
/vr/ boomers tend to like DE. Actual oldDoom players like it as well. ZeroM played through the game and all DLCs. Decino enjoyed it. There's a ton of mods translating D2016/DE assets and mechanics into oldDoom. Almost none try to translate D3 into classic Doom, except for Legacy of Suffering, sorta, and PG/CG sprites.
/vr/ boomers do nothing except cry about lore, or cry about being asked to do anything beyond spamming SSG and peaking corners like in their dungeon crawlers. They can't handle going fast or having to aim in an fps game, so they shit up the threads with their copy pastas and nonsensical shitposts about "muh qte cutscene attacks" or whatever dogshit. None of the ecelebs matter because they aren't posting on Ganker, DE being tied to the doom name is the worst thing to have happened to the game, doom boomers are a fricking disgrace of the highest order.
Frick the boomers, and frick /vr/ Black folk. DE isn't a doom game AND THATS A GOOD THING.
>/vr/ boomers do nothing
/vr/ boomers made a ton of fun wads. Cope, seethe etc.
No one cares about your shitty corn mazes you hunchbacked, cane holding, funeral waiting, old folks home staying, barely walkin,g tax soaking, non functional, useless waste of space.
Seethe /vr/ boomer, I'm sorry people like games other than your shitty fake-fps dungeon crawler.
>DE isn't a doom game
okay doom 3 gay, you can stop larping any time now
That screenshot is fricking moronic lol it's the epitome of marvelshit. I will never play that shit lmao
Didn't ask
I know but I frickin burst out laughing when I opened that pic I feel old
Don't throw out your back while laughing you fermented saggy skin having, liver spot infested /vr/ boomer scum.
okay 3gay, but who asked?
nobody I'm commenting on that screenshot you autistic moron
>3gay
You mean 1/2 boomer, the people who seethe nonstop about Eternal.
you mean 3 contrarians and Ganker contrarians in general
hating 3 is just /vr/ shit. Frick that board, more like bored.
>still crying about some /vr/ boogie man
3 was so good thats why the series died for 12 years after it released and the next game after 3 was more like 1/2 and nothing like 3
>was more like 1/2
Nudoom is literally nothing like 1 or 2, both of those have no verticality, no real aiming, no locational damage, no locked arenas built like multiplayer maps, no wave based respawns, no resources being generated from combat, no straight line levels, no falter system for combos, no weapon swap dpsing, no movement tech, no platforming breaks, etc, etc. They aren't even close to each other and Nudoom has more to do with Quake than Doom.
Doom 64 was so good the series died for 7 years. idiot
still less of a murder than doom 3 did
12 years is longer than 7
Nope that is from the N64 version. So the last Doom for pc was Final Doom 1996.
Funny how Id never made another sprite doom after that.
Curious isn't it.
Doom 2016 is about 19 years since a pixel doom and it ISN'T a pixel doom.
Checkmate.
>pixel schizo still at it
>desperately seething as he can't use any mental gymnastics to make 7 years a larger amount of time than 12 years
No I meant exactly what I said because 1/2 boomers are the ones sitting in the Eternal threads nonstop, I haven't even see a 3gay in them in months. I've literally had to make webms showing doom boomers you can kill cacodemons with anything besides nading them for a GK, they believe they are """"forced"""" to nade the caco because their brains have withered away from old age degradation.
Look, I even had to show them they can plasma the caco just like in their boomer dungeon crawlers and they still seethe while repeating the same tired arguments over and over again. Death to /vr/ boomers, they are the Black folk of Ganker and having the lowest iq of all posters.
Not nading them for an instakill is a huge waste of ammo in a game where you only get to carry like 20 shotgun rounds though.
nading them is (sometimes) a huge waste of time in a game where your armor and health can melt in a second
See, like I said Doom boomers are the dumbest Black folk to post on Ganker - to the point that literally just using a single arbalest shot, a single lock on rocket, a single ballista pb ballista swap, a single d blade, etc is too advanced for their decayed brains to handle. No, instead the /vr/ subhuman continues to nade them, the slowest possible way to kill them, for the entire game, and then states "I WAS FORCED TO DO THIS!".
Death to all classic doom scum, you deserve the rope for being such subhumans.
literally all of those options use more ammo than a grenade
WOAH GOOD THING YOU HAVE REFILLABLE AMMO YOU SENILE DUMB FRICK!
>huge waste of ammo
>in a game with unlimited ammo
Boomer momento
its cause 3 fans don't hate the other Dooms. I like all of them.
Cope and mald
LOL for a sec I thought that was for a marvel movie
https://youtube.com/shorts/EfscNk-GRnU?feature=share
I think it presents some cool possibilities and opportunities, even though it might not really be true to the 'oldschool' DOOD themes?
>treating Hell with all its demons as just an alternate universe with alien life
But that's exactly what Eternal did. Based.
This is just gay 40k.
They could do the homosexual atheist "lol they're just aliens" thing, but they could at least make the design still look satanic and occult.
None of the design looks brutal and industrial. Nu doom isn't metal as frick. Shooting depraved looking satan demons is. Not mass effect aliens
also I just want to point out that Marauder kinda looks like fat evil professor from Sonic
boomers like DE because you can skip all the story shit and it has GOOD GAMEPLAY
the biggest complaint they have against 2016 is the unskippable cutscenes
I'm an American and back when doom 3 came out I moved abroad for a year and had this weird existence where I was poor and constantly traveling. It wasn't very pleasant and I was so home sick. I didn't do much of anything fun. When I finally made it back home doom 3 was the first game I played because I didn't know what else to do with myself and it seemed like the perfect task to just sit and try to readjust to back to a normal life
doom3bros... are we cursed to be the only ones with good taste?
it's sad how nobody but us understand doom 3s greatness
doom 1 + 2 gays are senile boomers and 2016 + Eternal gays are zoomers who can't handle a nice slow atmospheric dark and moody burn
It really is so incrediby sad how they can''t just sit back and enjoy the atmosphere.
Don't group 2016 with Eternal, one of them is actually good.
most of the people that complain about Doom 3 just sound bad at it.
Spawns give em a heart attack and they can't handle the shooting and darkness.
most of the people that praise doom 3 are just bad at doom 2 and the new games
moving fast triggers them and they can't handle enemies that are a threat
its impossible to be bad at Doom 2
>doom 2
>fast (hugging corners most of the game vs hitscanners)
>enemies that are a threat (can fight literally 200k of them in a single wad because they job so hard)
lol, don't group your shitty auto aim skyrim tier combat in with nudoom.
I have the hottest take of all time:
Doom 2016 < Doom 3 <<< Doom Eternal
>Muh shotgun
does more damage than the rocket launcher if you get up close and land every pellet 1 shotting most demons stop being a pussy staying 50km away from a demon firing the machine gun gay
>muh flashlight
muzzleflash is a thing in the game (except BFG edition which fricked everything up) and the enviorments are built to give proper background light heres a tip if you see a bunch of blinking lights go dark something probably in front of it moron
>muh jumpscares
aw baby gonna cry and if you're one of those posers that b***h about the jumpscares "that arent even scary" kill the demon and move on then really shouldnt be an issue unless you made a wee wee and wanna complain.
>Muh designs are a downgrade and level sucks
the enviorment looks fantastics the static models and lighting are better than what some AAA games put out today >https://youtu.be/OQAd-HHdf1c
click anyware in this vid and youll see what i mean the only issue is that the active player models are low poly because this shit came out in 2003 it clashes with the environment at times
Also plenty of secrets hidden in the environment accessed through ingame computers or just actually moving most people dont know about the secret room wiith plasma cells in mars underground only accessible after walking a tight rope.
>muh shit boss fight
yeah every doom game has a shit boss fight its a fricking trend with most shooter games because a boss in a shooter is bullet sponge or normal health but with "immune phase"
also apparantly base doom is a great vr game based carmack making the best VR game in 2003 https://youtu.be/2hGG0hVgbJc
>no counterpoints
stroke the shaft while you suck my wiener gay
>Enter room
>"Scary" demonic noises™ and laughter
>lights go out
>some demons magically spawn, have to facefrick them with barrel of the shotgun
>kill them
>lights go back on
>enter next room
>rinse and repeat
i noticed thew new strain of contrarian nostalgia homosexualry is to obsessively hate the middle entries in series.
Because jerking off the 1st entries is too obvious.
for example
>no dude im not just a grog homosexual i think Fallout 2 is bad.
Same thing with Silent Hill 2, Doom 3 etc.
>NOOOOO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DOGSHIT MUH SHADOWS TECH DEMO YOU ARE LE CONTRARIAN
have a nice day homosexual
yes. now dial8
hi op
contrarians defend the shitty middle child game
fallout 3, doom 3
Seething at F3 and D3 just outs you as some 2000 forum troll from NMA seething at new game technology cause you are a autistic manchild,
>contrarian instantly seething when called out
you're hourly fallout 3 threads weren't funny either, neither were your DMC2 threads
NV troons shouldn't be seen or heard.
yet Fallout 3 was hugely successful so was Doom 3
No kiddo you are the contrarian.
>doom 3 morons trying to latch onto silent hill 2 now
your post is stupid and makes no sense you are an idiot.
>doom 3 tard can't read
just more proof the doom 3 shills never even played the game they blindly defend
>/vr/ moron is esl and mentally ill
ywnbaw
learn to read moron, maybe you'll be able to make it through doom 3 and realize how shit it is
I read what you wrote esl cuck. It makes no sense wtf is latching onto Silent Hill 2 mean? they are totally different games you schizophrenic subhuman
read Black person, read
you are a Black harry
I somehow finished Quake 4 but found Doom 3 too boring
That's how bad Doom 3 is
Doom 3 has bad weapons, bad movement, and bad combat, which makes it a bad FPS. The lighting and shadows are cool but there are better "explore dark places with a flashlight" games.
did you know they made an entire Thief game in Doom 3
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-dark-mod
I was pretty bored after having so many enemies just spawn behind me in a dark hallway. I remember being intimidated by this game when it first came out since I was never into horror but the nostalgia goggles come off fast.
is it seriously just hispanics that complain about new things? Who are these morons that want everything to be the exact same game every release.
It's underrated but doesnt deserve a wiener sucking
It's good and I'll defend it forever. The Doom IP's strength is its modding and the fact that you can basically find a game to suit your tastes. Want the Doom comic? Play nuDoom. Want classic retro stuff? Play Doom 1 and 2. Want spooky classic? Doom 64. Want an RPG? Doom RPG. Want horror and a weirdly flexible engine that can be modded into pretty much anything? Doom 3.
There's room for everyone and I don't know why people shit on 3 so much. I still mourn the loss of modding with nuDoom, we don't even have Snapmap anymore and that wasn't all that great.
NEVER trust the Doom 3 shitflinging homosexuals, the hate stemmed from grognard opinions. Doom 3 is great, the only reason why homosexuals back then lost their shit is because of the shift in theme the game took where once it was le homosexual shooty demons game it became primarily an atmospheric horror FPS.
>NONONONONONONONONO DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE JUST CONSUME CONTRARIAN OPINION
okay shill
you are the shill
frick off you idiot
>no argument
sorry doom 3 killed the franchise and 2016 had to save it
More like Zoom. Cringe incarnate fanbase. Kindly off yourself.
some of the mods that enhance Doom 3 are really good.
If you like Doom 3 check them out.
I was really disappointed that Id hasn't taken advantage of the multiverse craze to make Doom/Wolf cross overs or Quake1/2 cross overs.
Worst shotgun in the history of shooters. It's unforgivable.
I liked the one from RoE.
Too bad the addon is too short.
yeah the one from RoE is cool worth modding it in the base game
What's wrong with the shotgun?
inb4 "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT ITS A METAPHOR FOR OVER COMING FEAR ITS SUPOSED OT BE BAD UR JUST BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
>literally being too stupid to fire a shotgun up close
god damn you are moronic
shotguns kill shit at ranges beyond half a micron, moron
Most of the encounters take place at close distance. 90% of the enemies are melee focused and coming to you. Your sprint is basically unlimited making it easy to get up close quick. And you have like 9 other weapons to go to whenever you need to shoot something further away. There's not a problem with the shotgun it's you.
we did it Doom 3 bros the pixelshit onions boys were defeated.
DooM 3 should've been a tps.
guy's I've just finished World Spear ML on Nightmare
not UN yet, but no BFG
it felt so good
If you can't stand playing vanilla Doom 3, I'd suggest to try Phobos. It's got revamped gun balance, enemy behaviour and stuff. It's more action based and is not dark as shit. Plot is a shit though, given that it tries so hard to be story-driven game, but to no avail. Still a decent mod to try out.
There is also this.
This looks kinda fun.
>last frames are an imp dying to PG and his ragdoll launching towards enemy like a balloon
Classic Doom 3.
Meh, just some changed values in the game scripts and new sounds, nothing much. Even I can do that.
I will play Devil advocate here, My first Doom game is either Doom RPG or 3, i enjoyed them and still enjoy them, but after playing Doom 1 and 2 i can understand why the old fans didn't like it as much, I think we all can agree in a middle ground here, that the expansion did the game justice, it took the base, fixed it's problem and built upon it an enjoyable game that the fans can appreciate.
Doom 3 isn't as bad as people say it's but i am just glad it didn't went the way of cawa doody.
Speaking of COD, Doom 2016 could have ended up just like that. Just look at the screens and old development vids from 2011.
Yep, it was disgraceful to say the least, that era from 2007 to 2015 have been nothing but cawa doody and it's rehashes, problem is cawa doody isn't a good game itself.
Yes, I'm sure millions of people play COD because they're such bad games.
Everything past BO1/WaW is bad, yeah.
You can argue that COD as a series is stagnated and rehashed, and I'd agree with you, but the core obviously works.
Blacl ops 2 and the original 3 MW games are solid.
>I'm sure millions of people play COD because they're such bad games.
Yes.
I mean yeah there have been some great cod games but that's a stupid fricking argument. Are you going to tell me fifa is a exemplar of video game quality next? Is assassins creed the pinnacle of open world game design?
>exemplar of video game quality
I never said that. You did.
But since millions of people continue to play CoD games, they obviously find some form of entertainment and fun in them, and as such they can not be evaluated as objectively "bad" games. Are they simple in design? Yes. Are they unimaginative and iterative? Yes. But you can't call them trash games just because they don't push boundaries, and you don't personally like them.
I hope you learned something today.
Play it with the Weapons of Mars Destruction and Essential HD mods and you'll get the best Doom 3 experience bar-none.
The game just looks and sounds cool.
Sometimes that enough to make me enjoy a game.
and metadoom is epic
ignore this shill because the same bait for over 3 years
i prefer quake 2
im playing it now too for the first time and I'm loving it. wont stop morons from spouting "not a good doom game"
It's not a good doom game, but it doesn't need to be. It's doing its own thing and it accomplishes it very well. You're just finding a niche contrarian argument for the sake of a dopamine hit.
its an awesome doom game, stupid homosexual
It's not, and that is fine. This new era of zoomers trying to show they're tr00 g4m3rz by pretending they're experts on 90s era gaming needs to stop because you're just making doom 3 fans look moronic. Doom 3 is a great game, thats all that should matter.
Uhh is this a male or female demon, I need to know
the only game I can think of with a worse shotgun is webm related.
that's actually impressive
When are they gonna to cave and give us our demon romance sim?
Proto Dead Space with satanism in the best way possible
Wish the later Dooms would take a cue from its monster design because the new ones look like shitty space aliens instead of hell demons
Do I get Doom 3 or do I get the BFG version?
The duct tape flashlight kind of ruins a lot of design they intended for the game. Such as this one section where you needed to follow this traveling cryochamber that emitted light. When you can shoot and have a flashlight on it completely nullifies this section.
Also pretty sure BFG gives you way more ammo.
Idk what else is different.
The changes make it easier to play like a run and gun sort of thing. But honestly 3 always kind of played like that beyond the first few levels.
Get BFG if all you wanna do is shoot demons in a cool setting. Get original if you wanna take your time a little more.
I'm honestly thinking of replaying the original version. Still got the disk. Bought and played BFG edition a couple years ago and it wasn't that huge of a difference. Just the flashlight trivialized a lot of the level design. And supposedly more ammo.
I also head that the BFG has more bugs.
I didn't recall any when I played it. Now that you mention it I don't recall ever seeing a bug in Doom 3 in any version.
>want to replay vanilla Doom3 for the intended sucky experience
>no native widescreen option
I know it's just a text edit away but it's so tiresome every time, and honestly blows my mind that a game so focused on cutting edge graphical technology didn't have it or even got an update for it.
I mean the game came out in 2004 before online markets and was essentially forgotten by the devs until BFG edition.
Updates and widescreen monitors weren't really a thing.
>manual patches did not exist
Okay you got me to cough blood
Wtf were you doing, checking their website every day to see if a new patch dropped? Please
Nobody did that shit.
Of course not, dummy. I read gaming magazines to know when a new patch worth firing up the dial-up modem had dropped.
The issue with the flash light is that it goes from a potentially interesting design choice to an annoyance over the span of 3s long campaign. There are like 2 maybe 3 very short rooms in the entire game actually designed around it and beyond that it's a silly mechanic you're obligated to use to make the game slightly more enjoyable. By the time you've seen all of 3s tricks it's just something you're tired of.
The game really isn't that dark beyond like the first third of the game.
It's not that long until you don't have much of a need for the flashlight. It ends up being used really just to find hidden loot in deliberately dark corners
I'd honestly reccomend the bfg version just so you don't have to go hunting for the dlc. Overall I'd say it's better even if you can tell some areas we're designed for the flash light.
I've sunk about 150 hours into it and I cant recall a single bug off hand.
it isn't
it really isn't
it's way too easy even on the hardest mode and i'm someone who only plays easy games
that should tell you something
>I'm here, because there seems to be some very serious problems.
>Oh really? Do I need to remind you of the groundbreaking work that we're doing here?
>No, but I've been authorized by the board to look at everything.
>The board authorized you? Hmm. The board doesn't know the first thing about science.
>All they want is something to make them more money, some product.
>Don't worry. They'll get their product.
>After how many accidents, tell me Doctor Betruger, why are so many workers spooked, complaining, requesting transfers off Mars?
>They simply can't handle life here. They're exhausted and overworked. If I had a larger, more competent staff and bigger budget, even these few accidents could have been avoided.
>I'm afraid you'll get nothing more until my report is filed with the board. I will need full access Doctor Betruger, Delta included. I won't have any difficulties doing that will I?
>Only if you get lost Swann. Just stay out of my way. Amazing things will happen here soon. You just wait.
>Let's go.
Firing Paul Steed was a huge mistake. The game looks like shit artistically.
Playing doom 3 for the first time when it came out made me feel exactly how I felt playing doom as a kid. People don't seem to remember how much of a slow and dark horror doom felt at 280p, with all the monsters making noises in the background.
>People don't seem to remember how much of a slow and dark horror doom felt at 280p
and tank controls + strafing.
Doom 3 especially the main campaign has always been a soul suckers slog to me
>No SSG outside of the DLC meaning late game is just plasma/rockets and so mostly plasma because rockets have enormous splash damage
>Normal shotgun requires me to press it against the skull of weaker enemies to gib them
>90% of enemy encounters are imps from a wall or imp in front and imp in back.
>Too many level to introduce even the Pinky let alone how long it takes for alot of the roster to appear.
>Movement speed is ass.
The DLCs were pretty good though as they are designed with the assumption you played the game. This is my major issue with vanilla Doom 2 also its a sequel but its levels feel like they are made for people who never touched a Doom game before.