No, it's the only final fantasy I've dropped and restarted multiple times, it keeps me hooked at the beginning but keeps losing me near the end.
Which is ironic, considering that's when the game "opens up"and combat is at its most complex.
I think it's got strong characterization, and when everyone's character arcs are mostly resolved is when I stop caring.
>Was it that bad?
you are not going to get an answer. trying to discuss jrpgs and a FF at that is impossible because you attract every single obsessed neck beard weebo out there that has a love hate relationship with these games. and usually their opinions are based on some irrelevant little detail that they became austistically focused on. in other words talking about jrpgs is like talking about anime. the real answer is that: it's a decent 7/10.
I played it recently and I had to disable auto, once I did I enjoyed the combat.
Too bad that the game is so linear, but is is beautiful, has a nice soundtrack and great combat. The Jap voice acting was good too. So I finished the game despite it's linearity.
Then I went on and finished the whole XIII trilogy and I thought that the other 2 games were alright.
It helped that i am waaay less salty now because FFXIV exists and it is a somewhat traditional 3D FF that has all the casses, crystals, towns and interesting stories and characters that the series was previously known for having.
Combat is good overall gameplay is bad and too linear.
I don't even hate the characters or the story, but they clearly wanted to push the fugitive on the run angle so hard that they willingly gave up on any gameplay outside of walking down corridors. Even FFX had other shit to do.
Overly hated (for a FF game which has plenty of mediocre to alright entries) but still a very flawed game.
>Sky angels wanted to summon God (Gnostic ver.) back to Earth because they were bored and lonely. >Figure the best way to do this is to kill so many humans that the creator notices and intervenes >They can't do it directly, since they're forced to care for them, but the only surefire way to accomplish this is by using their powers as angels to enslave people, then have them kill them >Enslaved humans can't kill their masters, so the suicidal angels force the angels on the ground to make ones that can kill them >Entire story is this playing out, with sky angel occasionally chiming in to tell them it's hopeless to resist fate >In the end, someone turns into Bahamut and the power of love (Lesbian) makes a giant pillar to catch the falling planet. >People evacuate and live in fantasy Australia
In a nutshell
I understand how enticing the free online PS3 offered was but the everything else about the system was poorly implemented especially the PS3's interface
The 360 version was actually worse than the PS3 version due to the former being an afterthought.
https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off
It's funny because FFXIII was on multiple discs for the 360 but only one disc for the PS3, meaning those who were already getting a shit experience for JRPGs by owning a 360 got further shafted by having to swap discs in a modern game.
>bumping a thread repeatedly instead of responding to any of the posts actually discussing the game >can mock said poster without bumping the thread
I laugh
>claims it is the worst combat out of every single FF game >only directly acknowledges XV
So you played, at most, FF6 and FF7?
I definitely feel less engaged timing paradigm shifts, actually using status debuffs, and having a rating system then simply having attack and magic with no time limit on turns nor any penalty for taking 99 turns to kill an enemy.
I got as far as the big open plain and every encounter was so easy that it was just dull. Sorry that switching systems = engaging for you, but flashy graphics and systems for the sake of having systems is boring battle system.
Yes and are usually the only games, if any, that a person who claims any particular FF is the 'worst' has actually played.
I got as far as the big open plain and every encounter was so easy that it was just dull. Sorry that switching systems = engaging for you, but flashy graphics and systems for the sake of having systems is boring battle system.
That's great but you're still claiming it is comparatively worse, purely in combat, than all of the 30+ Final Fantasy titles that have been released. >easy
Yes, just like most of the Final Fantasies
Who are these low iq morons that don't understand that, when you claim something is the worst, just calling it bad doesn't prove that every game they compared to isn't just as bad if not worse?
This thread is sad. OP is desperately trying to bait out an argument but it's not working because FF13 is so boring and shitty and everything that's already been said has been said that nobody bothers biting. There's no anger, people just legitimately don't care. FF13 is the kind of bad where it just produces bland ambivalence. Worst of all, unlike Barry OP isn't even a funny autist to watch have a meltdown.
Nah, but whoever decided the full combat system needs to locked behind a dozen chapters is a dumbfrick.
LR was really great, but i get it if people didn’t dig the time mechanic and Lightnings lack of t and a.
Apparently with FF7r we love hallways now.
The problem with this game is the pacing is the worst. You're on a 20 hour tutorial before the combat actually gets fun
Also if I have to hear that battle music ONE more time
I tried playing it last month because all of the secondhand knowledge I had about aesthetics and game mechanics was telling me to give it a shot but the intro sequence was so fricking terrible I dropped it before the game really started.
Okay newbies let me make this simple >FF13 is revealed for Playstation 3 >It gets super hyped up for almost cgi graphics and super detailed hair >Snoys use this potential exclusive to claim their system is better >FF13 announced for Xbox 360 >snoys utterly blown out and get angry >snoys say the 360 will hold back the vision because muh Cell™ >FF13 releases >fans get filtered by Barthandelus on both consoles >360 fan boys claim this is proof PS3 exclusives are inferior >Snoys say FF13 sucks and blame Xbox
The XBox? Yes.
FF13? No, it's among the best in the series.
The quality of Final Fantasy games is somewhat inversely related to forum b***hing. Probably true for most games.
>Sazh
I will never understand the fandom for this dude. He had like one sorta kino moment in the entire game and then he went back to being a shit comic relief character
>least offensive >put up with the other characters shit despite being super depressed himself granted Vanille largely shares that but is far more annoying in acting like a ditzy girl >just wants his son back >black guy with an afro and guns
I get disagreeing with his popularity, but not understanding it
>He had like one sorta kino moment
You realize that's all you fricking need?
Almost every single FF character in the entire goddamn series is a bunch of nobodies. A single kino moment is what makes them.
Pretty much the only FF character with a developed plotline is Cloud. One scene per character is literally all you're going to get in FFVI. FFIX has the misery of not even managing one scene per character, with Freya and Amarant not having any scenes of interest at all. FFXII even worse, with five of the six party members all collectively managing to do basically nothing of significance throughout the entire story (it's Ashe and her entourage of posturing buttholes).
One good scene is what this series is known for. FFXIII has the deepest flaw: characters manage to be relevant, but nevertheless they are stupid, and their actions incompetent, meaning rather than one good scene, they have actively bad scenes. Lightning is probably the worst in this regard, as her entire plotline is about how she's a horrible person who failed to take care of herself or her sister and it leads into.. absolutely fricking nothing, and then they kill Orphan, and Etro deus ex machinas everyone. What a character arc.
Once you got out of the hallway it was good but by then it was too late. The second game kinda fixed that but it is buggy on PC so I never finished it cause my saves kept getting erased.
All the mainline games are good. Even II.
The mainline games are:
Famicom Era: >Final Fantasy I >Final Fantasy II >Final Fantasy III
Super Famicom Era: >Final Fantasy IV >Final Fantasy V >Final Fantasy VI
PS one Era: >Final Fantasy VII >Final Fantasy VIII >Final Fantasy IX
PS2 Era: >Final Fantasy X >Final Fantasy X-2 >Final Fantasy XII
Modern/HD Era: >Final Fantasy XIII >Final Fantasy XIII-2 >Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII >Final Fantasy XV >Final Fantasy VII Remake
MMO Era: >Final Fantasy XI >Final Fantasy XIV
No, it's the only final fantasy I've dropped and restarted multiple times, it keeps me hooked at the beginning but keeps losing me near the end.
Which is ironic, considering that's when the game "opens up"and combat is at its most complex.
I think it's got strong characterization, and when everyone's character arcs are mostly resolved is when I stop caring.
>Was it that bad?
you are not going to get an answer. trying to discuss jrpgs and a FF at that is impossible because you attract every single obsessed neck beard weebo out there that has a love hate relationship with these games. and usually their opinions are based on some irrelevant little detail that they became austistically focused on. in other words talking about jrpgs is like talking about anime. the real answer is that: it's a decent 7/10.
>you are not going to get an answer
he doesn´t want one, just want to shitpost.
Music and Sazh was good
>hey michael
>try go right
>I thought was going right Jon. But I'm not even playing on the right controller....
I always got really bored before getting to where it supposedly gets good. I'm just not a fan of the way it looks I suppose
I played it recently and I had to disable auto, once I did I enjoyed the combat.
Too bad that the game is so linear, but is is beautiful, has a nice soundtrack and great combat. The Jap voice acting was good too. So I finished the game despite it's linearity.
Then I went on and finished the whole XIII trilogy and I thought that the other 2 games were alright.
It helped that i am waaay less salty now because FFXIV exists and it is a somewhat traditional 3D FF that has all the casses, crystals, towns and interesting stories and characters that the series was previously known for having.
The locations are boring
Combat is good overall gameplay is bad and too linear.
I don't even hate the characters or the story, but they clearly wanted to push the fugitive on the run angle so hard that they willingly gave up on any gameplay outside of walking down corridors. Even FFX had other shit to do.
Overly hated (for a FF game which has plenty of mediocre to alright entries) but still a very flawed game.
Its in my top 10 OSTs of FF games and i like Lighting and Fang. Other than that theres is nothing notable about XIII and its sequels.
Plot writers need some philosophical depth, and the subtlety to match. Really, atheist writing is hopless.
Is that what XIII was about?
>Sky angels wanted to summon God (Gnostic ver.) back to Earth because they were bored and lonely.
>Figure the best way to do this is to kill so many humans that the creator notices and intervenes
>They can't do it directly, since they're forced to care for them, but the only surefire way to accomplish this is by using their powers as angels to enslave people, then have them kill them
>Enslaved humans can't kill their masters, so the suicidal angels force the angels on the ground to make ones that can kill them
>Entire story is this playing out, with sky angel occasionally chiming in to tell them it's hopeless to resist fate
>In the end, someone turns into Bahamut and the power of love (Lesbian) makes a giant pillar to catch the falling planet.
>People evacuate and live in fantasy Australia
In a nutshell
Now do the other two (and Type-0)
Schizo post
It was terrible. XIII-2 was basically an apology letter designed to fix all the shit people hated about it.
13-2 was objectively the most boring trash and you contrarians will never change that
>Xbox360
Who the FRICK play jRPGs on Xbox?
I chose the console with better online sevices
so no one
I understand how enticing the free online PS3 offered was but the everything else about the system was poorly implemented especially the PS3's interface
Aside Steam its currently the best way to play the trilogy
Has the 60 fps issue been fixed yet in the steam version? I get immense screen tearing whenever i boot it up
Just force vsync, any delay it causes is negligible for a game like this
the FF13 trilogy pc ports are notorious for being broken since release, hell FF13-2 needs at least 4 mods to fix it entirely
The 360 version was actually worse than the PS3 version due to the former being an afterthought.
https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off
People who owned an Xbox and weren't going to buy a second console?
The three guys who liked Lost Odyssey.
I’m one of them
It's funny because FFXIII was on multiple discs for the 360 but only one disc for the PS3, meaning those who were already getting a shit experience for JRPGs by owning a 360 got further shafted by having to swap discs in a modern game.
Best FF so far with the best ost.
>bumping a thread repeatedly instead of responding to any of the posts actually discussing the game
>can mock said poster without bumping the thread
I laugh
yes. the worst non engaging combat besides XV, characters are irritating and dull, story is awful. only the setting is good. next.
>claims it is the worst combat out of every single FF game
>only directly acknowledges XV
So you played, at most, FF6 and FF7?
I definitely feel less engaged timing paradigm shifts, actually using status debuffs, and having a rating system then simply having attack and magic with no time limit on turns nor any penalty for taking 99 turns to kill an enemy.
I got as far as the big open plain and every encounter was so easy that it was just dull. Sorry that switching systems = engaging for you, but flashy graphics and systems for the sake of having systems is boring battle system.
>ff6 and 7
Anon those games are more than a decade old.
Yes and are usually the only games, if any, that a person who claims any particular FF is the 'worst' has actually played.
That's great but you're still claiming it is comparatively worse, purely in combat, than all of the 30+ Final Fantasy titles that have been released.
>easy
Yes, just like most of the Final Fantasies
Who are these low iq morons that don't understand that, when you claim something is the worst, just calling it bad doesn't prove that every game they compared to isn't just as bad if not worse?
This thread is sad. OP is desperately trying to bait out an argument but it's not working because FF13 is so boring and shitty and everything that's already been said has been said that nobody bothers biting. There's no anger, people just legitimately don't care. FF13 is the kind of bad where it just produces bland ambivalence. Worst of all, unlike Barry OP isn't even a funny autist to watch have a meltdown.
>RTC filtered turn-based fans.
glad morons with slow ass brains never got to enjoy perfection
Did she deserve 3 games?
She didn't deserve one, but at least the first one was the worst of the lot.
Better than Endwalker at least
Nah, but whoever decided the full combat system needs to locked behind a dozen chapters is a dumbfrick.
LR was really great, but i get it if people didn’t dig the time mechanic and Lightnings lack of t and a.
Apparently with FF7r we love hallways now.
The problem with this game is the pacing is the worst. You're on a 20 hour tutorial before the combat actually gets fun
Also if I have to hear that battle music ONE more time
You will listen to the violin.
The battle system is a test to beat it before that damn violin kicks in
Great ost, good gameplay, can't remember the story at all. Decent 7/10
I tried playing it last month because all of the secondhand knowledge I had about aesthetics and game mechanics was telling me to give it a shot but the intro sequence was so fricking terrible I dropped it before the game really started.
>ruins your game
I liked seeing Lighting act tsundere around Snow
It's better than XII.
Whatever you say, anon.
literally star wars
Okay newbies let me make this simple
>FF13 is revealed for Playstation 3
>It gets super hyped up for almost cgi graphics and super detailed hair
>Snoys use this potential exclusive to claim their system is better
>FF13 announced for Xbox 360
>snoys utterly blown out and get angry
>snoys say the 360 will hold back the vision because muh Cell™
>FF13 releases
>fans get filtered by Barthandelus on both consoles
>360 fan boys claim this is proof PS3 exclusives are inferior
>Snoys say FF13 sucks and blame Xbox
>Barthandelus
That mother fricker completely taught me how to properly play the game and I love that fight for that reason
The XBox? Yes.
FF13? No, it's among the best in the series.
The quality of Final Fantasy games is somewhat inversely related to forum b***hing. Probably true for most games.
It was nowhere near as bad as people claim it is but the game's pacing plot and gameplay wise is fricked till the halfway point.
FF13 has the best party of any FF, and Cid Raines and Barthandelus were more enjoyable characters than most other FF antagonists.
The party sucked, except for Sazh.
>Sazh
I will never understand the fandom for this dude. He had like one sorta kino moment in the entire game and then he went back to being a shit comic relief character
The rest of the party was shit all the way through.
>least offensive
>put up with the other characters shit despite being super depressed himself granted Vanille largely shares that but is far more annoying in acting like a ditzy girl
>just wants his son back
>black guy with an afro and guns
I get disagreeing with his popularity, but not understanding it
>He had like one sorta kino moment
You realize that's all you fricking need?
Almost every single FF character in the entire goddamn series is a bunch of nobodies. A single kino moment is what makes them.
Pretty much the only FF character with a developed plotline is Cloud. One scene per character is literally all you're going to get in FFVI. FFIX has the misery of not even managing one scene per character, with Freya and Amarant not having any scenes of interest at all. FFXII even worse, with five of the six party members all collectively managing to do basically nothing of significance throughout the entire story (it's Ashe and her entourage of posturing buttholes).
One good scene is what this series is known for. FFXIII has the deepest flaw: characters manage to be relevant, but nevertheless they are stupid, and their actions incompetent, meaning rather than one good scene, they have actively bad scenes. Lightning is probably the worst in this regard, as her entire plotline is about how she's a horrible person who failed to take care of herself or her sister and it leads into.. absolutely fricking nothing, and then they kill Orphan, and Etro deus ex machinas everyone. What a character arc.
Cringe
the sequels are worse, and ff15 is an even worse game
13 was the last entry in the franchise that resembled a final fantasy game
>and FF15 is even worse
Being this contrarian.
Go back >>>/vg/
>reddit response
(You) go back
backstreet boys is not final fantasy
and theres no female playable characters lmao
Once you got out of the hallway it was good but by then it was too late. The second game kinda fixed that but it is buggy on PC so I never finished it cause my saves kept getting erased.
>picrel is literally the last good FF ever made
FF1 has like no story
Good videogame
No, I would say it was better than 7,8 and 10
It’s better than stranger of paradise
The violin is the best part you coward!
Doesn’t the music alternate at all? Like it can’t be the same for boss battles right?
As someone going back and playing currently, yes. It isn't the worst game ever but it was kinda bad. Not terribly bad just took too long to be an RPG.
The only objectively bad FF games are 2, 8, 9, and 15. Everything else is decent and comes down to personal preference and nothing more.
All the mainline games are good. Even II.
The mainline games are:
Famicom Era:
>Final Fantasy I
>Final Fantasy II
>Final Fantasy III
Super Famicom Era:
>Final Fantasy IV
>Final Fantasy V
>Final Fantasy VI
PS one Era:
>Final Fantasy VII
>Final Fantasy VIII
>Final Fantasy IX
PS2 Era:
>Final Fantasy X
>Final Fantasy X-2
>Final Fantasy XII
Modern/HD Era:
>Final Fantasy XIII
>Final Fantasy XIII-2
>Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
>Final Fantasy XV
>Final Fantasy VII Remake
MMO Era:
>Final Fantasy XI
>Final Fantasy XIV
>XV
no