Further proof of Protect Alain Protocol
Greninja won the poll for most popular pokemon twice yet Anipoke got rid of him by writing pointless issue with dark vine that they has no intention of resolving all to avoid any rematch where their precious Alain has to lose to Ash.
Yup. Famon is still ass-blasted that Ash lost in XY and won’t move on. Ash-Greninja was dropped because it was not needed anymore since they were allowed to give Ash a real mega. The anime prior to PM were autistic about Ash only having Pikachu+new Gen mons. This is why he didn’t get Lucario or one of Zard’s forms in XY. They were old Pokémon and therefore Ash couldn’t have them. PM dropped that restriction.
>it was not needed anymore since they were allowed to give Ash a real mega.
They made an entire episode on Lucario being dabbed by Greninja just to show Lucario to be inferior to Greninja. If they wanted to show that Ash does not need Greninja because he has actual Mega Pokemon than the first thing they would have done was making Alain & Mega Charizard X lose to Ash's Mega Lucario.
Now that Mega Lucario beaten Cynthia's Garchomp so if it ever fight Alain's Mega Charizard X than Lucario has to oneshot Mega Charizard X same way as Leon's Charizard to maintain Cynthia's dignity
>Cynthia did not Mega Garchomp
Does not matter since Leon's Charizard oneshot Alain's Mega Charizard X without any gimmick so if Cynthia needs to use gimmick against Alain then it will make her look inferior to Leon.
>Mega Lucario jobbed to Leon's Dragapult
Lucario was hanicapped because none of its Fighting type move can damage a Ghost type and some reason Leon got lucky when Lucario got paralyze by an indirect Thunderbolt.
I guess the main reason we did not got Ash's Lucario vs Leon's Cinderace because writers wanted his Lucario to lose a handicapped match to maintain Cynthia's dignity.
>Does not matter since Leon's Charizard oneshot Alain's Mega Charizard X without any gimmick so if Cynthia needs to use gimmick against Alain then it will make her look inferior to Leon.
anime Cynthia is stronger than Leon because she has 2 gimmicks vs his 1 - thats how she is stronger, not pound-for-pound
2 gimmick Cynthia > Leon > 1 gimmick Cynthia > 0 gimmick Leon
Also Alains MC-X did even worse vs Leon than Flints Infernape. And Flint was already defeated by base Garchomp years ago in DP.
So we already know via simple powerscaling that base Chomp > Alains MC-X
That said, you will never see Ashnime or these versions of characters again anyway
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The Cynthiatards are willing to lie until the end of time in the name of their imaginary sack of semen.
>Famon, most of this shit has
Everything to do with Alain, he is the only one who got benefited by all these dumb decision.
If Misty and Brock being regular on PM2019 made the series a hit then the TPC Executive will make the PM formula permanent which means they can not replace Ash anymore and if he stays than they might get forced to make Alain lose to him. Not only that, they have to kick somebody out of M08 for Ash to battle new people on title defence match on PWC and since 7 of them are champion so the only person they can kick out of M08 is Alain.
They purposely wasted all the potential of PM2019 and made it suck to Protect Alain.
The amount of schizogayging and coping on headcanons just to shove an Hateboner for Alain 7 years later is pretty fricking sad.
Can anyone explain this autistic denial to me? Why is gaymon a raging wannabe weeb?
>Refuse to let Ash use his reserve in his BIGGEST tournament >Make him have rematch with only trainers that he already defeated in the past so there was nothing new when he beats them again. All because if he had rematch with past trainer that he have not defeated than Alain's name would be top of the list. >Makes his battle with Leon on Master Eight as controversial as possible so it can not be use as a proxy against Alain >Instead of showing that Ash no longer need Greninja because he has stronger episode, they made an entire episode to show how strong Greninja is which Ash can not use because it has to clean Alain's mess, >Replace Ash with a doormat and generic boy just to make sure they does not get force to make Alain lose to Ash in the future. >Refuse to let Brock and Misty visit Ash on Sakuragi Lad because if PM2019 formula become a hit than they won't able to replace Ash and somebody has to make Alain lose to Ash >Very same reason they kept Bede and Marnie away from the main role.
Protect Alain Protocol exist and its the real reason current anime going downhill.
Famon, most of this shit has zero to do with Alain. You are blaming Alain because OLM didn’t give you your fanfic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Famon, most of this shit has
Everything to do with Alain, he is the only one who got benefited by all these dumb decision.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What does Brock and Misty not appearing in Journeys somehow helps Alain? You are an idiot, grow the frick up.
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Anonymous
If Misty and Brock being regular on PM2019 made the series a hit then the TPC Executive will make the PM formula permanent which means they can not replace Ash anymore and if he stays than they might get forced to make Alain lose to him. Not only that, they have to kick somebody out of M08 for Ash to battle new people on title defence match on PWC and since 7 of them are champion so the only person they can kick out of M08 is Alain.
They purposely wasted all the potential of PM2019 and made it suck to Protect Alain.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine being this autistic. TPC cares about shilling games and toys to children. They don’t give a shit about Alain. Stop projecting your autism on actual business people.
Protect Alain lol. Like your average Japanese TPC salaryman gives a shit.
It's utterly unjustified since it's confirmed that Ash Greninja is still in the game. I guess after Battle Bond was reworked for SV they didn't know if the form was still feasible and removed it just to be sure. i.e. Greninja still has battle bond but is unable to take the form. the backlash to this removal being the catalyst for preserving the form for post-SV release. Just gonna pretend the retcon didn't happen.
Yes. They got rid of Ash-Greninja because they literally got rid of Ash. Having a Pokemon associated with a single trainer you're retiring just creates marketing hell going forward, so phasing it out made a lot of sense people don't seem to be understanding. Genericizing it to Battle Bond Greninja (instead of deleting it entirely) where the Ash element is stripped away demonstrated exactly what their goal was in retconning it.
Cap Pikachu doesn't have a functionality or in-game naming tied to Ash. Battle Bond Greninja directly says it transforms into Ash-Greninja in Gens 7 and 8, changed in Gen 9. The Cap Pikachu variations are just called Original Cap, Hoenn Cap, Sinnoh Cap, etc.
XY was a mistake. They put fanservice in a very crude way that made people hysterical and stupid. It was a very toxic time. Now they want to remove any traits of that series.
XY is infamous for having too much self-insertion and very basic generic shonen tropes. For that reason there is the rare situation that XY fandom is very isolated from the rest of anipoke.
I just don’t get it
This isn’t some animation error, it’s deliberate
Why delete such a successful character? Was it revenge against the hostile Ash fans?
The whole point is they removed mega evolution and asspull was their concession to TPC's demand for a Mega Greninja (they weren't re-writing their lore to give it one and weren't adding two more for the other starters, thus did a form change gimmick and excused it with the ability). When they dropped mega evolution, they dropped the form change, working it into a stat boost instead. Thus the TV show had to drop the form change as it wasn't one the "official" mega evolution pokémon.
>remove gimmick >remove the form based off the gimmick TPC had tried to foist on them
Yes. the fact you morons fail to see how this proves Game Freak's independence from TPC's desires is telling. If Game Freak did what TPC said we'd have had Mega Greninja, not an easily-disposable form, because they knew they were dropping the gimmick for something new.
Special trAsh deserves to get rectonned.
not at all, it shows their spite in fact
doesn't matter to me as I quit watching and never returned the moment they jobbed and cucked him
those homosexual animators can seethe all they want about that fact
Yes since all they did with the Bond Phenonemona was use it as an excuse to give Ash a Mega without giving him or Greninja a Mega.
Yes. Frick XYgays
>Charizard and masuda are still so assblasted by naruto fog popularity that they demanded a retcon
Lmao what a fricking manchild
The fact that it was just Bonnie's imagination now is hilarous
I dont watch the anime when did they say this
they didn’t because it’s not possible
That is literally impossible
Yes, Ash-Greninja is a fricking abomination and the bond factor was moronic fan fic garbage
The whole point of XY was Megas, and Bond Phenomenon was meant to stand up to Megas, so without it it's just awkward.
Further proof of Protect Alain Protocol
Greninja won the poll for most popular pokemon twice yet Anipoke got rid of him by writing pointless issue with dark vine that they has no intention of resolving all to avoid any rematch where their precious Alain has to lose to Ash.
>Protect Alain Protocol
What protocol?
Don't bother. It's a Schizo still seething over Alain after 7 years
Yup. Famon is still ass-blasted that Ash lost in XY and won’t move on. Ash-Greninja was dropped because it was not needed anymore since they were allowed to give Ash a real mega. The anime prior to PM were autistic about Ash only having Pikachu+new Gen mons. This is why he didn’t get Lucario or one of Zard’s forms in XY. They were old Pokémon and therefore Ash couldn’t have them. PM dropped that restriction.
>it was not needed anymore since they were allowed to give Ash a real mega.
They made an entire episode on Lucario being dabbed by Greninja just to show Lucario to be inferior to Greninja. If they wanted to show that Ash does not need Greninja because he has actual Mega Pokemon than the first thing they would have done was making Alain & Mega Charizard X lose to Ash's Mega Lucario.
Now that Mega Lucario beaten Cynthia's Garchomp so if it ever fight Alain's Mega Charizard X than Lucario has to oneshot Mega Charizard X same way as Leon's Charizard to maintain Cynthia's dignity
>Cynthia did not Mega Garchomp
Does not matter since Leon's Charizard oneshot Alain's Mega Charizard X without any gimmick so if Cynthia needs to use gimmick against Alain then it will make her look inferior to Leon.
>Mega Lucario jobbed to Leon's Dragapult
Lucario was hanicapped because none of its Fighting type move can damage a Ghost type and some reason Leon got lucky when Lucario got paralyze by an indirect Thunderbolt.
I guess the main reason we did not got Ash's Lucario vs Leon's Cinderace because writers wanted his Lucario to lose a handicapped match to maintain Cynthia's dignity.
>Conspiracy moronation
G
>Does not matter since Leon's Charizard oneshot Alain's Mega Charizard X without any gimmick so if Cynthia needs to use gimmick against Alain then it will make her look inferior to Leon.
anime Cynthia is stronger than Leon because she has 2 gimmicks vs his 1 - thats how she is stronger, not pound-for-pound
2 gimmick Cynthia > Leon > 1 gimmick Cynthia > 0 gimmick Leon
Also Alains MC-X did even worse vs Leon than Flints Infernape. And Flint was already defeated by base Garchomp years ago in DP.
So we already know via simple powerscaling that base Chomp > Alains MC-X
That said, you will never see Ashnime or these versions of characters again anyway
The Cynthiatards are willing to lie until the end of time in the name of their imaginary sack of semen.
Copecession accepted
The amount of schizogayging and coping on headcanons just to shove an Hateboner for Alain 7 years later is pretty fricking sad.
Can anyone explain this autistic denial to me? Why is gaymon a raging wannabe weeb?
Array of bad decision from XY&Z to PM2019 in order to make sure Alain does not lose to anybody except the undefeated Leon.
Sounds like a massive schizo cope. Take this pity (You)
>Refuse to let Ash use his reserve in his BIGGEST tournament
>Make him have rematch with only trainers that he already defeated in the past so there was nothing new when he beats them again. All because if he had rematch with past trainer that he have not defeated than Alain's name would be top of the list.
>Makes his battle with Leon on Master Eight as controversial as possible so it can not be use as a proxy against Alain
>Instead of showing that Ash no longer need Greninja because he has stronger episode, they made an entire episode to show how strong Greninja is which Ash can not use because it has to clean Alain's mess,
>Replace Ash with a doormat and generic boy just to make sure they does not get force to make Alain lose to Ash in the future.
>Refuse to let Brock and Misty visit Ash on Sakuragi Lad because if PM2019 formula become a hit than they won't able to replace Ash and somebody has to make Alain lose to Ash
>Very same reason they kept Bede and Marnie away from the main role.
Protect Alain Protocol exist and its the real reason current anime going downhill.
All of this sounds like conspiracy homosexualry. Here's my last (You) for this schizopasta
Famon, most of this shit has zero to do with Alain. You are blaming Alain because OLM didn’t give you your fanfic.
>Famon, most of this shit has
Everything to do with Alain, he is the only one who got benefited by all these dumb decision.
What does Brock and Misty not appearing in Journeys somehow helps Alain? You are an idiot, grow the frick up.
If Misty and Brock being regular on PM2019 made the series a hit then the TPC Executive will make the PM formula permanent which means they can not replace Ash anymore and if he stays than they might get forced to make Alain lose to him. Not only that, they have to kick somebody out of M08 for Ash to battle new people on title defence match on PWC and since 7 of them are champion so the only person they can kick out of M08 is Alain.
They purposely wasted all the potential of PM2019 and made it suck to Protect Alain.
Imagine being this autistic. TPC cares about shilling games and toys to children. They don’t give a shit about Alain. Stop projecting your autism on actual business people.
Protect Alain lol. Like your average Japanese TPC salaryman gives a shit.
>Further proof of Protect Alain Protocol
More like protect CHARIZARD protocol
It's utterly unjustified since it's confirmed that Ash Greninja is still in the game. I guess after Battle Bond was reworked for SV they didn't know if the form was still feasible and removed it just to be sure. i.e. Greninja still has battle bond but is unable to take the form. the backlash to this removal being the catalyst for preserving the form for post-SV release. Just gonna pretend the retcon didn't happen.
They really hated him so much, huh?
Yes. They got rid of Ash-Greninja because they literally got rid of Ash. Having a Pokemon associated with a single trainer you're retiring just creates marketing hell going forward, so phasing it out made a lot of sense people don't seem to be understanding. Genericizing it to Battle Bond Greninja (instead of deleting it entirely) where the Ash element is stripped away demonstrated exactly what their goal was in retconning it.
Also the fact that Ash Greninja is only available in a demo is crazy.
Why is Pikachu in a cap still in SV as is?
Cap Pikachu doesn't have a functionality or in-game naming tied to Ash. Battle Bond Greninja directly says it transforms into Ash-Greninja in Gens 7 and 8, changed in Gen 9. The Cap Pikachu variations are just called Original Cap, Hoenn Cap, Sinnoh Cap, etc.
Then just change its name lol
They did, where mentioned.
The old greBlack person seethe was running out and we were needing a new dose of it so yes
Absolutely. It was moronic fanfiction tier trash.
NOOOOO It's good because I haet da frog!!! Sun and Moon is so much better with it's epic ftw meme faces and completely lack of plot
XY was a mistake. They put fanservice in a very crude way that made people hysterical and stupid. It was a very toxic time. Now they want to remove any traits of that series.
>XY was a mistake
Based Journeys correcting the mistake
especially Amour
>Using lowres pics
If you're gonna start shitty serieswars which are redundant and already over for months, alteast update your fricking pictures.
It was. It brought in a lot of unsavory people to an already autistic fanbase.
XY is infamous for having too much self-insertion and very basic generic shonen tropes. For that reason there is the rare situation that XY fandom is very isolated from the rest of anipoke.
I just don’t get it
This isn’t some animation error, it’s deliberate
Why delete such a successful character? Was it revenge against the hostile Ash fans?
It's likely Gamefreak had already decided to retcon the way Battle Bond works by the time that episode started production.
Since Battle Bond now only boosts stats but doesn't cause a transformation, it wouldn't make sense for Ash-Greninja to still exist
The whole point is they removed mega evolution and asspull was their concession to TPC's demand for a Mega Greninja (they weren't re-writing their lore to give it one and weren't adding two more for the other starters, thus did a form change gimmick and excused it with the ability). When they dropped mega evolution, they dropped the form change, working it into a stat boost instead. Thus the TV show had to drop the form change as it wasn't one the "official" mega evolution pokémon.
>Was the retcon justified?
Yeah stupid fricking donut steel oc frog should have never existed
>remove gimmick
>remove the form based off the gimmick TPC had tried to foist on them
Yes. the fact you morons fail to see how this proves Game Freak's independence from TPC's desires is telling. If Game Freak did what TPC said we'd have had Mega Greninja, not an easily-disposable form, because they knew they were dropping the gimmick for something new.
Jobber deserved that retcon
yes, and it makes base greninja even cooler for fighting charizard who completely outclassed it for as long as it did