Were people really OK with this shit back in 2004? This game has some of the worst and most blatant and frequent product placement/advertising seen in any game ever. Only games that are outright actual ads like Pepsiman can be considered worse.
Were people really OK with this shit back in 2004? This game has some of the worst and most blatant and frequent product placement/advertising seen in any game ever. Only games that are outright actual ads like Pepsiman can be considered worse.
Seeing real life products/brands in games was fun as a kid
t. New York Race enjoyer
have sex duracels
i did and my battery leaked 🙁
>Product placement, 2023
😐
>Product placement, 2003
:O
it's cool, like you're finding real life artifacts in this foreign world and can come up with theories how it got there and what even is the world
Anon there’s no theories to make here. It’s obvious you’re on post-apocalyptic Earth
that's my main theory. they got stranded on a planet that used to be earth
If it was so post apocalyptic wouldn't the battery have burst and bled out by now
The original is the only one that implies that. 2-4 all show signs of human activity.
It's called Sovl, OP.
>see product in media
>"holy shit I need to go out and buy some product later"
Do people actually do this?
>i'm 12 and how does marketing work
So you just blindly buy things because you saw it on a screen?
For example, the more you see DURACELL in big type and the black/brown styling, the more you come to see DURACELL as being just what a battery should/does look like and so are more likely to pick it out of similarly priced options
inb4 "that doesn't work on me, i'm not a sheep!", yes it does and you need to acknowledge marketing's power to defeat it
unless you're real cheapskate and always want the most out of your money, for groceries i always try out store brands and prefer buying them if I like them and for household utensils/tools I don't care much about I just take the cheapest options.
If I want to buy something with actual value I will always check out multiple options, look up reviews and do research before buying.
the only actual effect of ads is actually making a product's existence known to me.
>the only actual effect of ads is actually making a product's existence known to me.
no shit, that's the fricking point
Why should we care, it's a typical battery. It's very recognizable.
I bet you're the kind of people calling everyone else "NPCs"
Nobody will be subconsciously compelled to buy a Duracell battery instead of an Energizer one because they saw one of the two brands while playing a video game. Either you already have a preference or you don't care.
Most people will buy one of the big names instead of no-name ones, true.
And in case of batteries, it'll be the smart thing to do.
do i care about this battery? no
is it still product placement? yes
>i'm 12 and how does marketing work
well yeah i was 12 when i played pikmin 2, and this did not make me want to rush down to Kroger
In a huge simplification, yes, that's how it works, and none of us are exempt from this. It's called brand recognition.
>i'm not influenced by marketing at all other dumb people are
of course not. if you imagine a moron, you'll get a moron.
it's more like
>I remembered that I needed some batteries
>Looks at the walls of batteries
>Instantly recognize the one from the videogame.
That's it.
Normies are not immune to propaganda. Also, they get mad if you tell them that you ARE.
People that think they are immune to propaganda are advertiser's best friends, because they put their defenses down.
>but I'm immune to advertising
Then how do you know what Duracell even is?
>Then how do you know what Duracell even is?
Because they're the ones at the front of the aisle with the fancy, expensive display that I have to walk past to get to the cheap batteries midway down the aisle.
homie your entire worldview, the way you speak, think, *everything* has been shaped by the countless hours you've spent here - you guys are the biggest victims of grooming ever and you're unironically too stupid to realize it
Yes.
>t.v. is nothing but fast food, alcohol and prescription drugs
>most people are addicted to fast food, alcohol and prescription drugs
advertising like product placement isn't meant to make you see thing and go buy thing. it's meant to linger in the back of your head so the next time you're at the store and you need batteries you think "oh yeah I recognize duracel, those are good right?"
Basically, yes. All people do that. Ever hear the phrase "once you see it, you can't unsee it"? Marketing is about getting the idea of a product into your head, just so you know about it. Humans will instinctively choose a known over an unknown when given two roughly equal choices. This means if you know about brand 1 and don't know or know less about brand 2, when you see 1 and 2 next to each other for about the same price you'll be more likely to pick brand 1. No human is immune to this, including the autists that think they are.
No, we don't. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go see Barbie. It's cool because it has the "literally me" guy from the memes in it.
Only if it's food.
t. Amerilard
>the kills the consoomie
The anons saying this is how it works are all wrong.
It's not a "hypnosis": go and buy it now. The point is to remind people that the brand exists.
Then, when you are in the supermarket and need to buy things for your daily life, the fact that you have an image of the brand in your head is an advantage for this brand when you go to the shelf and see a lot of different options.
I once saw a guy who does marketing for these popular beers talking, and he said that when the marketing stops for a while, the consumption of the brands starts to homogenize, that is, people start to pick up any beer, because deep down all the popular beers are more or less the same.
An example of this logic in games are the shills and fanboys here on Ganker.
They for example are always reminding others that "Onirism" exists. Nobody here takes them seriously, but if you suddenly come across 5 obscure platform/shooters games, and one of them is Onirism, this game already has a slight advantage just because you're reminded all the time that it exists... you won't necessarily choose Onirism, but there's a slightly higher chance that you will.
That's why threads about Onirism should be banned immediately. They have no purpose other than to remind us that the game exists. It is totally indistinguishable from marketing.
You sneaky motherfricker
Wasted get
u mad?
What a shame
Onirism
It was clever advertising used to make the connection between earth and PNF crystal clear. Olimar would often get the context of it wrong too which was also funny
Wasn't the Ship Computer that was naming the items?
Ship was naming them (which was a bit confusing because the sales pitches were the reward for collecting a whole item set, but Olimar's notes were immediately available and often referenced the pitches). Olimar would disagree with the ship from time to time, though.
inb4 op posts more postironic bullshit
Remember that guy who sperged about crossovers. People just keep trying to find some ironic shitposting that sticks just like "japanese humor"
>Remember that guy who sperged about crossovers
I do.
did anyone just get a weird craving to go buy a fresh package of pristine duracell batteries?
>game is set on earth
>"I RECOGNIZE THAT PRODUCT! HELP ME Black personMAN!"
This one of the few times were product placement actually improved the game you dickhead.
It added to the atmosphere by making the "being bugsize on earth from an alien perspective" aspect of it more believable.
I found it neat, didn't even realize it was advertising
I can't even remember the brands that were in the game besides the Nintendo stuff and Duracell
This is an interesting topic because it talks about our childhood vs adult perceptions. As a kid, I loved seeing things from the real world in a video game. It made it seem that much more real. As an adult, it would only bother me if the product placement was just perversely out of place and in your face in an annoying way. Known battery brands like in Pikmin or Alan Wake seems like a perfect fit.
It also makes me think of how we perceived slow down in video games. As a kid if I went so fast in a sonic game it started to chug, I thought it was the coolest shit. I felt like I was breaking the limits of what’s possible. But as adults we just see it as annoying technical limitations.
Personally I like when games make internal references to vidya, pic related
N64 did tgis a lot actually
>game is canonically in itself
how is that even possible?
That's not the game, it is a VHS of the movie
It's fine when it's their own product. Like all the Nintendo treasures in Pikmin.
I see a fricking battery anon, get a fricking grip.
The joke is that Olimar landed on Earth. It works perfectly.
>DUDE.. is that a heckin product placement? I'm literally going insaaaaaaaaaaaaaane!
major coal fail
who gives a shit dude
The only reason you hate it is because you've grown to hate anything that can be associated with shilling a brand. Understandable, yet misguided.
It's ok when Nintendo does it
I found this shit to be a huge step down from getting actual functional parts for your ship like in Pikmin 1... even if most of those parts weren't actually functional.
I have always thought this shit was moronic. If you onions out at this shit but post fricking basedjaks have a nice day.
i mean, playing this game certainly didn't make me want to go out and buy duracell C batteries
Anon, back in the day the game devs had to pay these companies to use the actual brand name and you would go "wow they actually paid for this" whenever you saw it.
>that guy who bought caloriemate because MGS shilled it
I'm calling you out. Reveal yourself
...my cousin took me to an Asian market, I got a Boss coffee rainbow mountain blend
I wasn't. Dad and I loved Pikmin and we both thought it was sleazy. You know them kids can't get enough kiwi shoe polish. The removal of the brands in later versions is an improvement.
for me its fictional brands with unique identities
works wonders for worldbuilding
I've never understood why people b***h and moan about game advertising that actually feels natural like this. I'd take it over the more obnoxious shit in a heartbeat. Seeing Nathan Drake down some subway or norman reedus shilling his own show will chugging monsters is a lot more annoying than seeing olimar find a battery in the wild.
like, did you even know calorie mate was a real thing when you first played MGS3? or does that not count because it's japanese. maybe the doritos and mountain dew in peace walker were more annoying, since they made far less sense.
nevermind something like yakuza or any sports game. at that point it's just making scratch on the side while adding realism to the title.
Advertising is not bad, it brings customers and service/goods providers together and is an essential part of a well functioning market.
The stuff in this game being real world stuff made me imagine there being actual pikmin in the actual world and it made me happy.
Does Duracell pay to be featured in the game like Monster in Death Stranding?
I found the Mercedes Benz in Mario Kart more baffling
We thought it was fun. Also I feel it was more like Nintendo paying to use brands rather than the brands paying them, the brand just profits from the association.
>Also I feel it was more like Nintendo paying to use brands rather than the brands paying them, the brand just profits from the association.
that's even worse lol
sole
>Game has real-world weapons like AK-47
I sleep
>Game has real-world cars
I sleep
>Sports game has real-world people
I. fricking. Sleep
>Game has real-word battery
WHAT THE FRICK NOOOO ESCAPISM MAN SAVE MEEEE
I wish 4 had product placement it would have been fun
>kid in 2004
>haha duracell and vlasic pickles that's neat
>dumbass homosexual on Ganker in 2023
>literally in a constant state of agitation over the most inane bullshit
nailed it
it was soul back then
>play Pikmin 2
>find a Duracell battery
>"heh, that's cool"
>continue playing
What's the problem? It didn't shove an ad down my throat when I picked it up, the game just continued as normal.