What are your thoughts on Retroachievements? Are you a cheevo hunter?
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What are your thoughts on Retroachievements? Are you a cheevo hunter?
What are your thoughts on Retroachievements? Are you a cheevo hunter?
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They are pretty cool. It makes revisiting games more fun. https://retroachievements.org/user/megamanxlegends
I'd like them more if a lot of sets weren't just progress slop. People can make whatever achievements they want so it sucks to not see more unique challenges. It's a good website though and surprisingly well curated.
Wish they were offline but I get it
completely depends on the quality of the achievements. some of them are interesting challenges, others are moronic. not opposed to having retro achievements, but i feel like this could be the path to uberspergdom. i also kinda worry this could lead to people wanting a persistent database of their achievements which would either get managed by troons or god forbid some big publisher takes interest and it kills emulation. hiopefully that second thing is impossible.
Aren't the achievements exploitable?
There's a hardcore mode built into the emulators that does its best to try to limit how exploitable you can get. I'm sure there are probably ways around it, but that's pretty much true with anything. There is a softcore tracker as well though for people who don't really care and just exploit and have fun.
The biggest way to exploit the hardcore tracker is to use fast forward.
For some reason it isn't considered cheating but I personally consider getting experience and gold in an RPG dozens of times faster than intended to be a pretty gigantic cheat. I'd even say it's more powerful than save states in many games.
Quality of the sets is a gamble. I swear some of them go out of their way to make the games as unfun as possible. I'm also not a fan of the usual damageless/speedrun achievements or those sets where 90% is missable which means you're expected to play the game while constantly having to check the set.
But as a concept it's neat. There's a lot of games I might've quickly dropped or played once just to say I did and never touched it again but with achievements that is some encouragement to stick with it and really learn all there is to it.
Devs often add some sort of protection against it. Like if there's some glitch that turns you into god-mode a dev might make it so that doing this glitch stops the achievements from registering.
They can be useful to learn something about the game you didn't know and did not went to some random wiki/gamefaqs to learn about it, but resumes it pretty well.
You just need to have luck than the game you want to play has a good set of achievements for the experience and not just some trophies to hunt for irrelevant points, earned by doing the most boring things ever.
I kinda like the idea of adding achievements to some of my old favorites. Can anyone develop for the site?
Pity for "people" that use them
Achievements in modern gaming are cancer and putting them in retro games is even more cancer.
This. I have no achievements in real life to speak of like the classy chud incel I am. Why would I ever want them in video games? Achievements are for losers.
We used to clown on people like this. No idea what kind of brain worms they have to make them think that achievements are a good thing
I've yet to hear any convincing argument as to why they are a bad thing. It's no different than high scores.
Aside from the moronic social aspect of some people advertising their e-dick gamer score, the best argument I've heard against them is that it turns a game into a checklist. You're no longer just enjoying the ride, you're checking off a list like you would with the grocery. Which some sets are like that unless you plan on replaying the same game 50 times.
I still don't see that as a bad thing. Hell checklist achievements like you describe has actual led me to doing things I might have otherwise missed. You know the games that tuck some side quest in the corner somewhere, generally meaningless sure, but it's a nice hint towards telling you "hey you missed something".
I think it's a case by case basis. I've had that experience myself but it's not fun feeling the need to stop playing every 5 minutes to make sure you didn't just pass by some missable achievement. Or the fact that you basically spoil yourself out of organically learning about the game. Like some RPG's have some self-imposed challenges for every major boss. The argument is that it's suitable for people replaying the game but if you care for achievements and you're playing something for the first time you'll probably optimize shit and end up playing through a boss fight by following some guide rather than just going in and having fun. So I certainly get why some people hate the entire concept behind them.
At least in-game achievements can come with some gameplay reward.
High scores are a measure of skill, playing the game to completion is not.
Not every achievement is about completion though. Plenty of achievements on there are a matter of skill, or to put it another way, achievement sets for difficult games exist as well. Go finish the Dakopon set on GBA and tell me how easy it was.
>It's no different than high scores.
Not remotely the same thing. High scores are typically a reflection of skill. Achievements are, a vast majority of the time, nothing more than a dopamine drip for morons who are easily manipulated. If you know that someone has a high score or something similar(such as a world record) related to a game there's a good chance they have it because they're better than almost everyone else in the world at the game. If someone has 100% achievements it typically means nothing except the person wasted a few extra hours of their life making sure they talked to every npc or autism grinded enemies to get all the rare drops and this means nothing. A literal moron could do that.
Top high score in a game? Guess what? That's an achievement, idiot.
It's fun? You morons are so egocentric
What's fun about it?
I don't go out of my way for them or even look up the achievement list for anything I play but I have it turned on in Retroarch just because it's mildly amusing to see an achievement pop up every once in a while.
>retroarch
not even once
either follow the design language of the operating system you are running your program on or frick off
I like a lot of their subsets.
>"Congrats, you did something in a videogame" - popup at the corner of the screen
I don't see the appeal. Makes self-imposed challenges or difficult tricks seem intentional rather than something you pull off without the game expecting you to.
achievements are almost always cancer because of bad or exploitative implementation. they should only be used for unmissable completion-type elements in games, sparingly for feats of strength and speedruns, and never for grinding.
>Pick up 100 coins
>Achievement unlocked: Baby, You're a Rich Man
>Complete 1-1
>Achievement unlocked: The journey begins....
>Level up once
>Achievement unlocked: I'm getting stronger!
>Get first in a race
>Achievement unlocked: Speed demon
I just got the achievement seed demon but the requirements weren't clear.
When they're good, they're good.
Some guys make Resident Evil sets on there, and they all get it. All the challenges change how you play the game dramatically and in an interesting way (like getting every item, no attacking any enemies except mandatory ones, that kind of thing), good achievement sets should change how you play the game.
Mediocre ones are Silent Hill, a bunch of achievements for progression and different endings, and the challenge achievements are pretty limp. Turn off your flashlight and beat 10 enemies to death with a melee weapon, clear an area without the map, it's moronicly simple, and the only hard achievement is built into the game- get a 10 stars ranking.
I don't mind a lot of it though. Gives a better excuse to replay games, and it livens up some games that I've played way too many times.
I kinda forgot this exists. I used to use it years ago. Wonder if there is any new stuff to check out.
I stopped caring about them when they started adding new achievements in the middle of me already doing a play through
This website made me realize I'm actually really bad at videogames.
I went pretty ham for like a year but I'm starting to slow down, it gets tiresome after awhile. It's a lot funner achievement hunting for games that you've played a lot or are familiar with, but I ran out of those. Mastered pretty much every game, so now I need to just play new games without RA distraction
That's when you become a developer and create sets for games that you love that don't have one, anon. Spread the love unto others.
I think achievements as a whole are really dumb and generally pointless but at least real achievements have the benefit of being legitimate. RetroAchievements are both pointless and completely unofficial so I find myself completely unable to care about them.
I hate the word cheevo so much
Same.
I love it. Any zoomspeak is a surefire way to determine whose opinion to disregard.
Who runs retroachievements? They keep track of everything you do, do they make money off of it?
Achievements in general are pure garbage 99% of the time. They're only worthwhile if they actually mean achieving something. No, progressing through the game normally isn't worth a pat on the back. No, autism collection doesn't warrant praise. If an achievement doesn't require playing a game in a more difficult way it should not exist.
I have games on steam where an achievement is "get the bad ending". Why the frick would I want the bad ending? There's other ones where you just have to play for a certain number of hours, and there's advice on the forums to just leave it running while paused for 20 hours. I don't get it.
The only achievement I ever liked was the Stanley parable's "go outside". Achievement grinders would change their system clock to unlock it, completely missing the point of their obsessive tendencies.
it's neat I guess but I think it's bullshit that most games don't have a PAL set. I ain't playing any Yankee versions
1) achievements, trophies, etc. are all absolute homosexual bullshit. Beating the game used to mean something back when games were hard, but nowadays even that just means you're a no life loser with too much free time. Winning online would mean something, but there are so god damn many cheaters there's no point. Chasing achievements could not miss the point more of a video game, which is either to dick around and have fun (Tony Hawk, Grand Theft Auto, etc) or play through the game and beat it how you actually want to. May as well get a fricking second job if you're going to treat games like one.
2) I have never heard anyone say "cheevo" before this thread but I wholeheartedly reject it and just know if I ever hear one of you homosexuals say it IRL I will punch you square in the face, no questions asked. Zoomers fricking suck dick at making slang.
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It's not real life, moron. Say it to my actual face and get clapped.
>get clapped
Do Americans really?
Cheevo
newbie alert
We were calling them cheevs and cheevos back when they were new in the mid 2000s, because they were gay.
Was that only on Ganker? Never heard anyone say it back then. I was only on /b/ until /b/ went to shit and turned into a troony porn board, then I was mostly on /misc/ and Ganker. I only came here because Ganker is just poorgay 16 year olds whining they can't afford a car and /misc/ has reached levels of schizo the world cannot comprehend.
I dont like how easy is to cheat in Hardcore mode.
>Disable achievements
>Use lots of cheats on your game to reach level 100 in seconds or somenthing
>Save game and reset.
>Use that same save with achievements enabled.
Master any JRPG set in minutes
Stuff like this will get you banned if caught and it's not that difficult to found out of people are doing it. It's why a lot of devs add a silly opening achievement to show when you first started playing. If you get the max level achievement 10 minutes later, it's obvious you're cheating and you get banned.
Wouldn't it be easier to just offer offline achievements instead of moderating and banning?
Not really. It doesn't really require any moderating at all when the community is full of competitive autists. You cheat and you're gonna get caught pretty quickly.
Keeping everything tracked online has to cost a decent amount of money. Who's paying for all this?
I mean the website is obviously patronized by a lot of talented programmers. I'm sure they are self-funded relatively easily.
Achievements are meaningless and pointless, and cheating to get this meaningless shit even quicker says a lot about the human mind.
If you need the computer to give you a virtual shoulder pat because you jumped over 25 goombas then you should probably reconsider your life.
Who makes these? Is this just random people on the internet?
Is there some sort of scrobbling system? I scrolled down to the "active players" list and noticed a lot of the statuses say exactly what stage they're on.
>cloning DuckStation sources
>patch it
>have all achievements without efforts
>you can't stop me
Asinine. "Ceevos" have been nothing more than a Skinner box cancer for morons.
I NEED A CHEEVOOOOO
A CHEEVO TO SAVE ME
Achievements were gay on 360
Achievements are still gay to this day
Simple as
I like it. Triggers the anti-achievements crowd by having achievements
And triggers the hardcore gamers by having achievements too hard for anyone without the top 1% of advanced autism
It's a win-win.
I like the popups to spruce up boring old games, and I like that they have achievements for romhacks and homebrew too. Also they have a newsletter and support for several emulators now, including the PS2.
>achievements too hard for anyone without the top 1% of advanced autism
I love that there are sets for stuff like getting to level 100 on Destiny Islands in Kingdom Hearts. Not necessarily skillful, but it is indeed a genuine autism award.
I really love this. It's one of the coolest modern advances with emulation. It adds a lot to retro games. This is Ganker so morons will give you some conspirational speech about how it's the worst thing to hit western civilization since the troubles but don't believe them
>MOUNTSMOGSCHEEVOS!!!!!!
Been there done that. The point of achievements is to flex on the fricking nubs, and that doesn't apply here.
I just like completing the games and that's it.