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It's a shame every game after this pussied out on the health system, I don't think they ever pulled anything like this again.
AJ has several double penalties, at least one per case after the tutorial. Never unlimited though.
AAI defaults to half of the normal 1/5 penalty, but also allows you to game over during any point of the investigation. It does have double penalities as well.
DD had... exactly one double penalty? I'm not sure, but the game is extremely easy due to the constant handholding.
SoJ goes back to AA1 system but had both doubles and an instant game over iirc
Yeah, if I recall the SoJ instakill penalty is not trusting Rayfa to be able to do the Divination Seance in 6-5
>lose
>go back a few seconds
>mash through the text to get where you are
waste of time.
i think the point of the health system is to provide an illusion of tension. if you refuse to engage in it at all and just brute force every answer without fear of failure then there's little point of it being a game at all (which is IMO what makes ace attorney more fun and palatable than the average VN)
I think SoJ did
It was kind of a wasted opportunity with GAA2 not doing it... but I still liked it.
Why is the judge so easily influenced by everyone but me?
With all the bullshit he lets the prosecution say you'd think he was paid to be like this but he seems stupid enough that I believe he didn't get bribed before every court hearing
~~*Godot*~~
>Why is the judge so easily influenced by everyone but me?
Nick occasionally influences him.
He just doesn't do it as often as he could.
Apollo Justice case 1 is a good example of that, Nick is so agressive than he makes the judge enters his "rhythm" and agree with him even when he uses a "fake" evidence the judge don't care to check.
"Here's an updated autopsy report I'm only just now entering into evidence!"
I realize this is supposed to be Japan's legal system in the game, but surely even irl that shit can't fly and wouldn't get shit immediately thrown out.
no it can. prosecutors can withhold evidence from the defense/public until they submit it as evidence.
in the real japanese legal system* I meant to preface this with
I started replaying it rcently and I'm surprised how, from the very beginning, a lot of the evidence is introduced to the court with "hey I found this and it's only now relevant" and everyone just accepts it. Phoenix literally steals a wiretap out of some girl's drawer, keeps it a fricking secret, and introduces it to the court out of nowhere and everyone is like "wow, I can't believe she's been wiretapping this entire time" and not "how the frick can we trust this evidence when your word is literally all we have to go on?" And this is after they make a big deal about Edgeworth possibly stooping to falsified evidence.
AA logic for evidence boils down to "if you can establish relevancy, then it's accepted" by default. But it also shows that the opposition can raise objections and force the court to examine said piece of evidence.
The US sytsem of discovery is super autistic and only exists because jurors are sheep and can‘t be trusted to use their head. Countries that don‘t have juries don‘t need to be as strict about this
Was Kristoph right about the jury system?
none of the things you see in the game are accurate to any legal system in any place of the world, it's a videogame
You say this but many claim this is totally according to the Japanese law system.
It's bullshit. Takumi explained that he knew frick all about trials or lawyers, and AA is a detective game first and foremost. He only went to watch a few trials for reference, prior to that his entire knowledge was based purely on fiction.
It's a parody of the Japanese law system, not actually based on it.
They have an insanely high conviction right so it must feel at times like a total farce where the only possible way to get a not guilty verdict is if you could catch who actually did it during the trial itself.
Honestly the main thing that kept me from ever buying into Dual Destinies' "dark age of law" bullshit is how hilariously corrupt the court system was in the original trilogy already
You're telling me this guy was ruling the courts for 40 years was fine but an instance of forged evidence and a prosecutor getting convicted of murder—which are BOTH things that von Karma alone did—qualifies a huge shift in how the courts are seen? Every single prosecutor in the original trilogy was withholding evidence, badgering witnesses, sabotaging the investigation for the defense etc. but we're supposed to just take the game's word that things are so much worse now?
I mean tbf AAI2 tried hard to walk back on the whole "Von Karma forged evidence and it was actually Debaste who carted over forged evidence for him to use".
First they retcon edgeworth being implied to use forged evidence during the first game and then they retcon manfred von karma using forged evidence? What the frick???
Yeah. That's my biggest grievance with these later reveals because they wanted to make Edgeworth look redeemable and to have Franziska have a father who isn't a complete piece of shit.
Wouldnt edgeworth's redemption feel more earned if he was genuinely a bad person back then, rather than making him seem like he was always good?
He was a dick to Phoenix and was supposedly ruthless by copying Von Karma's tactics. The thing they walked back on was his implied darker deeds such as forging evidence to win trials.
If he used forged evidence but only got a penalty that contradicts Phoenix Wright getting disbarred for 7 years for unwillingly using evidence he didn't forge himself. They never actually said he forged evidence, only that Gregory "pointed out his underhanded tactics" which in this case was making a deal with the defendant for a confession behind closed doors.
Yeah. People seem to forget that the stuff about Manfred forging evidence was simply rumors. That was basically it. It was never shown that he actually forged evidence. AAI2 simply confirmed that the rumors were half true. Manfred used forged evidence but he didn't forge it himself. That was Debaste who forged evidence and gave it to him without Manfred knowing about it.
If they're trying to make him seem justified or sympathetic as if he was only doing his job but was being shady against his will then it really doesn't work when he was actively making shit up during his trial against Phoenix. He was telling witnesses to withhold information, sabotaging evidence, he fricking tasered Phoenix and Maya and ran away with the evidence that could incriminate him in the crime of Gregory. He was, for all intents and purposes, a corrupt piece of shit.
Oh Manfred was corrupt. That can't be denied given the tactics he used to win. The only thing they never confirmed was him actually forging evidence to win and AAI2 confirmed he never forged evidence to win.
Wasnt it an implied thing? Like, you see him sabotage and steal evidence, and thus, you can tell he's the kind of man who would forge evidence. Why would he steal evidence and mess with shit but "manfred did never forge evidence!!!1"?
The point is that the rumors of him forging evidence were false. It was never a given fact that he forged evidence which was the main focus of the shady rumors about him.
>which was the main focus of the shady rumors about him
Really? I'll have to check back on the lore we got of him in the first game then, I could've sworn there was more to it than just that. Funny still how if that's true then the rumors turned out to be false, except what he actually did was a million times worse.
People in-game mostly harped on Von Karma for the whole forging evidence rumors.
Didn't Manfred forge Isaac Dover's autopsy report because his body went missing?
I feel like ultimately trying to go back on that as "it was just rumors, it was never true" is meaningless; he didn't forge evidence, okay, he just was someone willing to fricking murder people over tainting his perfect prosecution record. But he didn't forge evidence, thank GOD. Namsayin'? I just don't see why even bother.
>Oh Manfred was corrupt. That can't be denied given the tactics he used to win.
Huh? Hiw does that make him corrupt?
>The only thing they never confirmed was him actually forging evidence to win
He removed evidence that could have helped the defence
>Huh? Hiw does that make him corrupt?
tasering people to steal the evidence they hold against you sounds very corrupt to me...
Removing evidence is not the same as forging it.
Was it confirmed to be Manfred who forged that or Debaste?
>Ok so he tases phoenix wright simply to steal vital evidence,
>BUT HE WOULD NEVER FORGE EVIDENCE!!
Learn what forging evidence means you idiot.
It's in the same category of evidence manipulation.
>If they're trying to make him seem justified or sympathetic as if he was only doing his job but was being shady against his will then it really doesn't work
They arent. The third case of Investigations 2 is basically undoing a wrong caused by his own actions
>that contradicts Phoenix Wright getting disbarred for 7 years
No it doesn't
Frick lawyers
>but we're supposed to just take the game's word that things are so much worse now?
well the prosecutor for one was a death row inmate in DD
>Why is the judge so easily influenced by everyone but me?
But he is. Keep in mind that the protags entire gameplan is making mountains out of mole hills after every single testimony, until they somehow touch upon an actual case-breaking contradiction and blast Pursuit at full volume. A more strict judge would point out Phoenix&co are making their case as they go and they seem unprepared for the trial.
Yeah but you fully influence him and he truly believes you at the end of every trial. Also I remember the game is based on the Japanese court system where the judge whole heartedly believes the prosecutor and the convicted is guilty until proven innocent
in the second trilogy the Judge is a lot more nice on Phoenix and respects is say in court a lot. He is also very aware and experienced in Phoenix' bluffs so he doesn't get fooled by that. There's a good balance in those games and in 6-DLC it actually feels like a fair case for both sides.
Because the justice system is unfair and moronic in AA world. Like, getting a Not Guilty after everyone thinks you did it is something insane that almost never happens. It's supposed to mimic Japan's moronic system.
>It's supposed to mimic Japan's moronic system.
This thing gets thrown around a lot, but it's not actually true.
What the game actually says is that AA happens in a dystopian setting where crime rate is really high and the pressure forced them to come up with the 3-day initial trial system to quickly deal with whoever the police throws in. Another thing that gets mentioned is how most of these trials also end up in Guilty verdicts, possibly another consequence of the gov trying to reduce crime.
Another thing it mentions was that the defendant is still supposed to undergo another trial to a "higher court"(referenced only during the game over scene), but everyone definitely acts like it's a guaranteed convinction if they already got a Guilty verdict. 3-3 might be a good example, since Phoenix goes straight for asking a retrial instead of representing Maggey in whatever is supposed to come after the in-game sequences
Whats the higher court supposed to be, anyways?
Some sort of appellate court, maybe.
Probably where you try and go for a more lenient sentence. I thing SOJ-DLC had something about Phoenix mentioning that they can try for the self defense verdict.
>Why is the judge so easily influenced by everyone but me?
because it's based on the Japanese court system which is hilariously biased against defendants, the moment charges get brought you're basically fricked unless you're ultra wealthy and powerful.
Japan does not have plea bargains. Japan does not have to charge you with a crime or release you within 24 hours of being held. The vast majority of cases are decided by coerced confessions from people being held for potentially WEEKS at a time with no official charges, when they try to later recant these confessions at trial they get laughed out of the court room.
https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/wilj/vol20/iss3/6/
Phoenix Wright is a japanese defense attorney. The superhuman efforts he needs to go through to prove his client's innocence are satire of the japanese criminal justice system.
For the last time, AA isn't satire of anything.
do you think the 99% conviction rate of japanese prosecutors is because they're all just gigachads like Edgeworth and never fail at their job, or maybe there's other reasons behind that number?
From what I have heard, it's mostly because prosecutors are reluctant about bringing a case to court unless they are absolutely sure the defendant did it, but that's not related to AA.
But every case needs to have a prosecutor, just like how a defendant has to have a defense attorney
My point is that they are either letting the guy go or gather enough evidence that the trial is basically a formality.
Granted, this says nothing about whether the defendants are truly guilty or not. It's about the prosecutors having high standards.
Do you really think it's just because they're "reluctant", anon? Reaaaaaaaally really?
So you think they just let a lot of cases go, then? Because that's definitely not true. Additionally, that's in-court cases - not counting the documented extreme badgering and guilt-tripping by Japanese Police that's done to suspects to extract confessions, who they can hold for extended periods with zero evidence. While of course, hinging on their Japanese "don't stand out don't question authority" mentality while telling them their families are going to be upset if they "lie" or how bad it's gonna be if they don't tell the truth.
Furthermore, you think Japan has no reason to want to keep that number at 99%? Can you imagine if it dropped to a more regular number, how that would look for Japan's "face"?
C'mon now. It's a matter of Japanese pride. You can't be THAT naive.
I never specified what they are "reluctant" about, nor that they actually let the case go.
Brilliant reduction, you're clearly either naive or an apologist.
That's some A+ pilpul right there.
Or maybe you are a projecting frick.
>no argument
lol
lmao
What argument? You are the one making shitty assumptions because of a word.
>further pilpul
>no argument
~ r e t a r d ~
Genuinely what are you even trying to achieve? Other than not looking like somebody who just sperged out for no reason.
Oh I couldn't possibly do a better job than a professional like yourself.
Maybe try not assuming everyone is dumber than you next time.
the ironing
>calling yourself a professional dumbass
didn't think that one through my man.
Why would nips care about arbitrary pointless high numbers?
>pointless number
>expresses a clear effectiveness of the judicial system
moron no.2 enters the stage!
>Why would nips care about arbitrary pointless high numbers?
....are you serious? You know most asian kids get home from school only to immediately go to MORE school to study all the stuff they learned in actual school so they can score higher on tests than their peers, right? lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cram_school
burgers are too busy building stadiums for high-school football and there's a much bigger culture of focusing on extracurriculars like athletic scholarships for college for them to care about shit like this, but it's super common in asia, japan, and korea
Glad i dont live in japan, that sounds like pure moronic shit
>Japanese
isn't the story taking place in Los Angeles or something?
Thought everyone knew about the Japanifornia memes by now.
Original script says Japan, but the first game localized it as taking place in America and they are still sticking with this.
>you'd think he was paid to be like this
in one case he was
>Steel Samurai case
>Has proven beyond the shadow of doubt that the defendant is completely absent on the crime scene on day 2
>Still has day 3 anyway
They want you to find the killer for some reason
>well SOMEONE has to go to jail!!!
Wouldnt jails be overcrowded if 99% of cases (in ace attorney) end in someone going to prison?
Nah, they probably execute a frickton of people
However, we know that there are normal prisoners (with Frank sawhit being one of them) during aai, so prisons getting overcrowded IS a real issue
Sawhit got the chair already
I've seen prosecutors yell at judges before only for them to take it and give in. If a defending lawyer did that they'd get a few weeks of jail on top of fricking over your case. The system isn't fair.
Honestly, why not just forge evidence and get a not guilty easily?
Yeah. The disparity in treatment is probably due to defense attorneys seen as "criminals" for defending the defendant who is perceived as the criminal.
In IRL it is because the judges and prosecutors work out of the same offices, see each other frequently and thus build up a rapport that allows them to internally justify "letting things slide."
So it's unfair from the start. How sad.
Absolutely. Governments are cartels. Always have been. The moment people give up the notion of governing neutrality and start organizing to get what is theirs, rather than to force the universe to align with some bullshit abstract principles formulated to sound good, the better they'll be.
And you wonder why people have no faith in the system. Corrupt and completely difty/
So why don't black men get reliably convicted for the murders they commit?
Because if they did, cops would have less work to do.
Proof?
Phoenix lacked the charisma.
>undocumented evidence
>surprise witnesses
>making a mockery of the judicial system
Wright gets away with a alot of shit. You think any judge would ever allow a parrot to be cross examined?
He is but it still feels like he heavily favors the prosecution. He's always like "oh yes so true brilliantly put mr prosecutor" while with Phoenix he's more like "what you're saying is batshit fricking insane mr wright but eh frick it let's see where you're going with this".
>prosecution can whip the defense, throw coffee at the defense, allow a hawk to attack the defense and wrap them in prayer beads
No problem.
>defense presents the wrong bit of evidence
Penalty.
Wright also uses magic to manipulate the witnesses
How did Edgeworth feel when he realized Wright had a magic lie detector all this time?
He started out without this magic, doesn't use it in 2-1 and first acquires it in 2-2. He EARNED the right to use magic. Edgeworth bros can't stop losing.
Same
I love this game as a teen, but now it just baffles me how fricking moronic these in game systems are.
Its not even a matter of things being stacked against you as is it a horrible system that has no bussiness existing in the first place.
>it a horrible system that has no bussiness existing in the first place.
Wait until you play SoJ and find out there is a legal system built around not allowing the defendants to receive any sort of defense at all. But seriously, the game told you about that right after the first case: shit is fricked and you are living in an actual dystopia.
>shit is fricked and you are living in an actual dystopia.
And then you have cases where you can completely redo a lost trial.
I mean, it's cool but it's not the first time this happens. 2-4 has a one-shot penalty on the FIRST trial day, not even the final one. And 3-2 had the "one press and you're done" testmony.
Why don't we go for the unlimited saves?
DS version ruined it with the saving system. Those were supposed to be scary because you replay the entire trial if you mess up.
You re-mash the a button you mean.
Still, it wastes a lot of time. Especially in fricking 3-5
For sure.
Screw replaying the episode just because of court points or whatever. Just use it for dramatic effect.
>Those were supposed to be scary because you replay the entire trial if you mess up.
as i get older i realize that i am ok with the "baby"fication of modern vidya. Yeah i don't have to play the entire game over agin if i die, that is fine.
Why would you want to replay the entire case again? You already know what happened, you're just wasting your time
Yeah I know, it's almost like it's a... consequence...
>games should have shitty consequences for your mistakes because, uh, you're not a real gamer otherwise
You know, I always criticized that shitty "redo the entire trial all over again" mechanic for losing as well but
makes a very good point. Even with people knowing they can just savescum I rarely if ever see people just not giving a shit and bruteforcing their way through a trial, they always at the very least sit down for a second and give it some thinking. "Just play the whole fricking thing again" is inarguably a shitty fricking mechanic, but if it weren't there there's a good chance people would not engage with the game the way it's meant to.
Does Tyrion Cuthbert do it better? It has no penalty system (except for the arguments, which you can safely restart), but some questions are genuinely fricking hard, if only because they are often phrased in a confusing way.
I have no idea, I haven't played that one. Now that I think about it, even without penalties it'd be kinda hard to bruteforce several parts of the AA trials since sometimes even just getting the game to show you the piece of testimony you need to present something on is difficult. But then there's things like "show me where in this photo he touched you" or "who killed the victim? >me >gumshoe >obvious answer". I'd have to check it out.
You can replay with knowing the whole case to see how much of each case is bullshit.
homie it's a VN, it barely count as video game. You are mash A to skip a bunch of text, there's no challenge.
Stop stealing Tim's lines
apparently in Japan, for murder trials, they use a lay judge juror system.
in Japan, specifically for heinous criminal acts, they have 6 members of the public sit up on the bench with 3 judges. and then at the end of the trial they vote.
it ONLY needs a supermajority vote, not unanimous.
so if 6 of the 9 vote you guilty you're fricked.
Damn. Sounds prefer metal. Degeneres different from AA/GS's Japanese court system. Though I guess the Jurist System comes close?
Payne is the only good prosecutor in Phoenix Wright.
If you mean fair, that's also true for anyone in the """Apollo Trilogy"""
Hiding evidence and testimony is an early Edgeworth and Von Karma thing. Godot does it just to frick with Phoenix, but nowhere near these.
Godot literally falsified an evidence.
Yeah Godot is included, even if he is apparently only prosecuting against Phoenix.
>apparently only prosecuting against Phoenix.
Didn't he prosecute in 3-3 in another trial, when that one with fake Nick happened?
Winston Payne was the one in the intro trial of 3-3 looking smug its kino. Really makes you think if Godot knew that wasn't him and why he didn't just let like a court bailiff know or something. I know he's trying to challenge and press Phoenix extra hard but come on
>Really makes you think if Godot knew that wasn't him
The one guy I don't trust to recognise that Nick was fake, is the one with eye sight problems. Him and the judge.
Definitely figured out he wasn't the real Phoenix, but didn't give a flying frick.
Proof?
Godot made sure to take every single case against Phoenix in T&T EXCEPT the one with the fake, since Payne is clearly shown being there instead. Despite that, he went out of his way to replace him for the retrial and the first day dialogue definitely implies he also knew about the cardboard badge.
Originally 3-3 was intended to be a case in JFA, but had to be cut due to cartridge limits. I like to think that if it had made it to that game, that Franziska would have won against the fake Phoenix. Would have been hilarious for her to find out she didn't actually beat Phoenix.
I can swear I saw this post before.
Anyway same, that shit was 100% written around Franziska's personality just to make her extra mad.
it was cut before Franziska existed as a character
Edgeworth was still the prosecutor, and he was the one that barged into Phoenix's office about his flop trial, not Gumshoe
"Gumshoe: Mr. Godot agreed to take this case just so he could face you, pal. He was working on a bunch of more important cases, but he cancelled them all...
Maya: Huh? But then... ...why didn't Mr. Godot take this case... ...when Maggey's first trial came up?
Phoenix: Yeah. that is kinda odd. I mean, everyone thought the defense was "Phoenix Wright". So why didn't he try to fight "me" then?
Gumshoe: Well, according to Mr. Godot... ...he knew the guy was a phony right away, so he didn't want to bother with the trial.
Phoenix: (He couldn't be bothered to tell the judge!?)" https://aceattorney.fandom.com/wiki/Recipe_for_Turnabout_-_Transcript_-_Part_1 present the Godot portrait.
I think Godot saw a dude calling himself Phoenix Wright and thought it was some copycat lawyer since Phoenix made a name for himself and just wasn't interested.
>He was working on a bunch of more important cases, but he cancelled them all...
Lmfao what an butthole.
>Gumshoe: Well, according to Mr. Godot... ...he knew the guy was a phony right away, so he didn't want to bother with the trial.
Was he even able to see his face, properly?
The phones was completely red, which we know is a Godots blind spot.
There is also his voice, accent and mannerisms.
How was Payne incapable of realising this wasn't Nick?
It's Payne.
I don't have such weakness.
>get unlimited penalty at 1 health
>penalised so hard you instantly teleport to jail, without passing GO, without collecting $200
I don't get why Ganker sucks this butthole off.
Who does. He is funny but in most threads I hear people calling his plan dumb or shitting on his lawyer skills compared to any other defense or prosecuting attorney.
It would be cool if Godot drank from his coffee and refilled the player's penalty bar only to unleash the unlimited penalty.
Also yeah I miss the psychelock bar from JFA and T&T. I know its back in the investgiation games and some others but they've made the exclamation mark system from the first game more common which I dislike
>still no AA news
Bros I don't feel so good
>exactly 1 minute apart
holy samegay
How do you reply, Ganker?
Oh boy, I sure hope she won't wind up dying on the next day.
was Mia actually into Phoenix? I know Maya channels her to flirt with Phoenix so he could share food in some of the official promotional comics which aren't exactly canon but still came with your game. She dresses up as Franzizka to flirt with Phoenix implying she's done stuff with him before in Phoenix Drive although capcom doesn't want people to know their involvement in that either. I know Godot was into her its pretty obvious but does Mia even think the same way or respond back to any of his affections especially in 3-4?
No idea if it was the intention that Mia was into him, but that's the impression I got when I first played.
It would be funny if Godot woke up to find Phoenix rogering her.
There is art of Godot and Mia say drinking coffee together but this is the closest thing that doesn't look platonic. Besides how would you date someone who's already passed away you would be basically dooming whoever's channeling them and force them to sleep their whole life. In a way I'm surprised the kingdom of Kurain didn't have even more royal children and just have the children constantly channel one leader then you'd have a king/queen with infinite experience
There is this art, but I have no idea what's supposed to be going on.
woah based where did you find that. I'm limiting myself to Boorus
It's an official illustration apparently. Found it on the AA wiki
Court-records.net has a good bit of art there
>was Mia actually into Phoenix?
Certainly not after seeing him like this
He was a good friend at best
He simply had a cold, i doubt she wouldnt find him hot in his prime
That was when the attraction began. It's why she wanted Phoenix working for her.
That was her strategy to disorient the prosecution.
>That was her strategy to disorient the prosecution.
Didn't work on ol Edgeworth!
>Edgecel fumbled his cute ninja girl and swears off women forever
Zased???
He's too autistic.
Edgeworth is gay for phoenix wright, thats why
If it's this comic it's the noodle guy she's flirting with (who would be Eldoon retroactively)
What's this about capcom and phoenix drive?
Eldoonbros...
Meraktis chads stay winning
>get killed by a little girl
>killed by vicious heir to large crime family
Eldoonschizos falseflagging as usual
>Meraktisgay coping
Your husbando got offed by a small girl.
Maya is the perfect wife.
Where's the burger joint?
"phoenix" and "maya" are eating the "burger" in that comic.
Totally California bro haha.
capcom was involved in phoenix drive?
>Phoenix Drive although capcom doesn't want people to know their involvement in that either
say what
i sure hope she isn't hit with a statue by a pink man tomorrow
Btw, red + white = pink
There's absolutely no way you could make sustained eye contact with this woman with her funbags out like that
I take out for drinks that night.
She can't be murder if am fricking her brains out!
would mia let phoenix smash?
Probably but sadly he's too gay.
i mean he was dating "dahlia" for months so he's not really that gay. but man. he really missed the boat with mia. if godot was seething at phoenix for not protecting her, then he was obviously giving phoenix his blessings to pound her.
Phoenix wright is bisexual, he fricked iris and theres the whole homosexual tension bewteen him and edgeworth, and godot is in the hospital so i believe that she fricks phoenix wright whenever she's horny
I refuse to believe Phoenix had the stones to bang Iris. If Phoenix got any play, then Mia likely forced herself on him.
Well, given this sprite, i believe he would definitively frick if he feels horny
You can be lovey-dovey without having the balls do to the do. Also, where did this sprite come from?
It's an unused sprite from 1-2, during April May's introduction.
I'm still mad we never saw April again.
A-BABY BABY LETS-A MAKE ROMANCE
I SAYS YOUR OLD TOWN LOVE HASN'T GOT A CHANCE
>Sorry I'm a stone cold incel, I don't drink with women.
>schizo talking to himself thread
another AA thread by the AA schizo
I'd rather nobody post about AA on Ganker than have this autistic homosexual spam for 20h straight tbh.
>ace attorney survey goes up on twitter
>did you buy the apollo justice game collection?
>no
>Survey ends
dammit, let me atleast tell you why I didn't purchase it!
Too bad, anon, we're done with this witness!
I save the game every time I'm about to present evidence. It's basicallh mandatory for Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice, the worst games in the series, that has some contradictions that make no fricking sense.
> It's basicallh mandatory for Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice
homie really? These two are infamous for spoonfeeding, especially DD.
Now JFA and T&T were the real deal, especially the former because you also had to deal with any residue damage from psyche locks, and 2-3 alone has a plethora of bullshit logic leaps.
Why is blud samegayging so blatantly?
What ever happened to Godot anyway? His murder was basically self-defending someone else, I don't think he would be locked up forever/executed over it.
He died after 3-5 due to his failing health.
Even some light sentence like 10 years of prison is enough to not appear for the rest of the series
Probably got a light sentence and died because his body was just utterly fricked by the poisoning.
Atroquinine poison in his coffee
He couldve survived
We never see what happens to most characters outside the main cast anyways. This art
at least leaves the door open that he's not dead, I feel like, otherwise they would both be ghosts.
Pick one and only one:
AAI1
I love Athena, by the way. In case you guys didn't know
She looks dumb
She is dumb in most things except her psychology gimmick.
Please understand: she is an 18 year old high functiong autistic female lawyer
It's like the devs don't know if they wanted her to be an attorney who leads cases like Phoenix and Apollo or be an assistant like Maya and Trucy.
tbf she's a teenaged newbie in her debut. she just barely became an lawyer. naturally she's going to need to shadow more experienced lawyers like phoenix and apollo to learn how it's done. phoenix did so with mia and apollo with kristoph.
>phoenix did so with mia and apollo with kristoph.
This is pretty unrelated to what you're saying, but you made me realize that just about every mentor attorney and prosecutor in the series winds up either murdered, in jail, or otherwise goes through some horrible event that makes them unable to enter a court of law for years on end. The only one to avoid this is what, fricking Grossberg? Maybe that's why he has hemorrhoids, it's the universe punishing him for eluding what was meant to be the inevitable fate for his kind.
And if we consider Phoenix as Athena's mentor, then he's already been disbarred for nearly a decade.
She looks like she fricks defense attorneys
does she frick herself too?
The case where Apollo ties her up had me so hard I was balancing the 3DS on my boner
>Godot
>Out to get revenge on a literal ghost
fricking idiot, also don't make sense he wanted to protect maya, by sending her to jail.
There are many ways he couldve solved the issue, like tying dahlia's vessel up before she was channeled
he also spit on the legacy and wishes of the woman he loved
Godot is a fricking disgrace, no matter how they tried to pull the sympathy card with him
Imagine a scene where godot spoke with mia's ghost and she called him a fricking dumbass
What happened to Morgan Fey after t&t? Did she kill herself or smthn?
Probably still executed because she is the one who planned 2-2.
If anything Mimi is the one who survived it.
rotting in jail, probably without any outside contact
she didn't get executed, she's serving a term in prison
why would Mimi Miney get a lighter sentence when she helped plan it and was the one that actually killed the guy
>she's serving a term in prison
Was that ever specified? I thought T&T made it look like the plan in 3-5 was her last wish.
>why would Mimi Miney get a lighter sentence
Think it depends on whether they are willing to overlook the murder given her motives.
>Was that ever specified?
At some point in 3-2 or 3-3 they specify that she's serving a term, probably for life
>made it look like the plan in 3-5 was her last wish
She only left one set of plans for Pearl before getting convicted, and I doubt she can just give out more murder plans in front of prison guards
After the first plan failed Pearl probably wouldn't be allowed to talk to her anyway
So even if she didn't get executed, it was her last chance to get Maya murdered
>overlook the murder given her motives.
Her motives don't warrant sympathy IMO, she killed a guy and tried to pin it on an innocent person just so she could continue living as her dead sister
I never understood why people are always so butt blasted about this specific part of the game - it's one of the easiest contradictions in the entire franchise, the whole thing is basically a cutscene.
>schizo samegayging for 10 hours to bump his thread
mentally ill
Ace Attorney 7 when
Once they release investigations 3 and the investigations 1-3 trilogy HD remake + anime tie-in, sweetie.
Q4 2024-Q4 2025
What platforms would AA7 release on at this point?
Switch/PS4/PS5/Steam
what about xbox
The trilogy release for 1-3 on Xbox didn't break five digits. It's why Great Ace Attorney or the Apollo trilogy don't have Xbox releases
Could have sworn 456 collection got an Xbox release.
Tgaa didn’t get an Xbox version but the AJ trilogy did
Ok so I wasn't going crazy then. Then I guess it's a flip of the coin on AA7 getting an Xbox release.
TGAA already didn't release on it because the trilogy barely sold there. We got exact numbers back during the big Capcom leak and it was absolutely terrible on xbox.
Switch - 462,395
PC - 245,339
PS4 - 103,235
Xbox - 4,821
Why didnt shelly de killer shoot edgeworth as well so that Winston payne becomes the case's prosecutor and ensure that phoenix wright wins the case like this
Shelly doesn't kill people he's not ordered too. He does even kill the president's guards in Investigations 2.
He shot franziska von karma in the Matt engarde case, so why wouldnt he shoot edgeworth as well?
Edgeworth didnt even really make his grand return until that case
Him shooting Franziska was entirely unrelated, obviously. She picked up a penny he wanted.
No, shooting Franziska was something he did to aid Phoenix's case. I think Phoenix tells Edgeworth about De killer earlier though so unlike Franziska Edgeworth might've been more prepared.
collateral damage is unprofessional
nvm good point. Maybe he tried but Edgey's too sharp for him
He was fleeing from the police.
When was there the time to shoot Edhworth?
People joke about Winston but he's actually competent. He had a longer unbeaten record than Edgeworth and Franziska AND did it without underhanded tactics, even Edgeworth admits he's a good prosecutor in Investigations.
also he has a smoking hot wife
>also he has a smoking hot wife
Have we gotten to see his wife?
How would you guys rank Asougi as a rival prosecutor among the other prosecutors?
Bad. Goes from best bro to Godot tier prosecutor. The bit where he gets outed as an assassin and he's just like "yes I was going to kill him but I didn't" and everyone just accepts it is moronic.
he does nothing to oppose you at all, he's a Layton during final case-tier prosecutor
He's one of the best prosecutors in the series.
Play the game because this isn't true at all
I was too busy not giving a single fricking shit about the professor to finish the game.
>the detective is dead! what a horrible event that is unprecedented in the series!
>no wait we're talking about the professor again lmao
Frick off.
Asougi was ruthless. Surprisingly so.
>your honor, it's obvious the suspect is a skinny 14 year old twink who took a revolver from a large bodyguard, shot it twice without issue and fricked off out of there with ease via a window
Apollo had some of the most moronic cases.
But people in the game pointed out how ridiculous that sounded as well.
And you still get a guilty veredict if you die because you couldnt figure out the complex shit from this case
>if you die
Apollo Juicebox is dead... DD and SoJ cannot happen now... Phoenix remains disbarred...
I meant die as in, losing your hp
god I didn't feel frustrated like that since 1-5's angel starr apprehension's testimony. we literally went over the fact the revolver would dislocate someone's shoulder
4-3 is what scarred me from replaying AA4. From the repeated concert flashbacks to the moronic arguments.
OK something I do not understand is why Ema is so weird about Nahyuta. She saw how he practically tormented her friends and such and yet she states how kind and gentle he is after she saw him in action. If that were Klavier, she'd rip him apart but Nahyuta seemingly gets a bit of a pass with her.
it's because she found someone who truly appreciated her work and her love for forsenic science. she might not like how he treats her friends and all the sermons he gives her but she'll do what he wants because he's nice to her, smiles at her and appreciates her work. she's willing to travel across the world with him. that's dedication.
What happened to the AJ jurist system thing?
Scrapped lmao
But why? Why not keep it as an actual thing in the future games instead of scrapping it?
Because they didn't want to commit to such a new change and went with something else. Happens all the time.
Why write it then?
Because it was relevant for the plot they wrote for the game.
But the sequels would have to be made with this on mind, why include them if they wont expand on these plot points
The sequels were made to bring Phoenix back as a lawyer after the fourth game made him into a supporting mentor character. So no. They didn't make them with the one-off Jurist system that Phoenix came up with mostly because he was disbarred and couldn't do anything to help fix the system directly. Now that he's a lawyer again and can jump directly into the action, Jurist System serves no purpose.
But phoenix wright and apollo arent the only lawyers in the world, the jurist system would still serve to help other defense attorneys, theres still a purpose
Nobody cares about those other lawyers. Story focuses on Phoenix and people connected to him.
>Lose health.
>Just reload back to place you were and hit the other option
What was the point of the HP system in AA?
that you're only allowed to save at certain points and not everyone wants to mash through the whole day over again to savescum
>that you're only allowed to save at certain points
basically any time you're not presenting evidence. I doubt the GBA games were different, but on DS it was just slow to scum.
I don't think the GBA versions had those savescum options.
Gba savescumming:
>save game using the in-game slowfrick save system
>choose the wrong option
>turn off the console
>turn on the console again
>try again
>repeat when you fail.
My phone's emulator savescumming:
>open emulator's menu and use the savestate
>choose the wrong option
>open menu and reload within seconds.
did GBA not return to the main menu? I recall DS doing that
So you waste even more time because the game boots you to the main menu then you load the game to actually get a try
quicker than sitting through the DS startup and crapcom logo
I miss Oldbag
obasan is dead
i presume covid muddied up the production schedule for aa7 along with pushing back great ace attorney chronicles development and release which is why it didn't release in q3 2021(oct-dec 2020) like projected and by the time things stabilized, they saw a ton of reorganizing of the dev team infrastructure. some aa7 assets probably got loss and they had to start over. once great ace attorney chronicles came out and sold well along with aa123 having pretty good legs, capcom figured it would be best to get newer fans caught up with the series by releasing the rest of the main games with aa456 before diving into aa7 and having the team get accustomed to the new re:engine probably took some time as well which naturally pushed back aa7's release even more. now that 456 is out, i'm confident the ace attorney team is focusing completely on aa7 and we could see it release either this fiscal year or the next one.
I wonder who they'll focus on. Apollo left the agency.
it will likely focus in on phoenix with maybe an athena case or two. maybe we even get another new lawyer for the agency but idk. even with apollo gone, i doubt they will exclude him from the game. i can see a case either set in khurain where apollo solves a case there or apollo visits japan to help pheonix out with a case. like phoenix has been arrested or something and it's up to apollo to help out.
>phoenix has been arrested or something
But getting arrested is Maya's gimmick.
we can have both a phoenix in jail case and maya in jail case. apollo with the help of either athena or maya go on to defend phoenix in court. apollo/maya would be more interesting given they've never worked together before.
out of the prosecutors, who do you think was the meanest? we all know klavier was the nicest. we're going by their debut games only.
Von Karma not even close. He tasers you and your assistant.
Manfred. He killed someone and tased us. He also bullies everyone in court.
Godot
he blames Phoenix for Mia's death, as well as Maya's, who he either knew wasn't dead or believed he caused her to die
he's shit at his job too, the only reason he's there is to be a spiteful homosexual and throw coffee at Phoenix
Von Karma is up there too for generally being an insane moron and tazing you
>he blames Phoenix for Mia's death, as well as Maya's, who he either knew wasn't dead or believed he caused her to die
>he's shit at his job too, the only reason he's there is to be a spiteful homosexual and throw coffee at Phoenix
Tbf Godot was grieving and Phoenix was closest to Mia at that point. He could have saved her had he been with her most of the time.
>He could have saved her had he been with her most of the time.
This is an absurd thought
The only person who could have possibly known Mia was going to die was Mia herself, and she never asked anyone for protection. It's absurd to expect Phoenix to have somehow known she was in danger and then hover around her 24/7 to make sure nothing happens. He was her employee, not her husband
I don't care if Godot was grieving, he killed Mia's mother and nearly got her sister killed with his moronation too. What an awful thing to do to someone you supposedly loved
Tbf Phoenix was literally the only man in Mia's life at that point. You'd think he'd want to delve closer to his boss and try to do everything to protect her. Yes Godot was a bit harsh with his blaming of Phoenix but in a way he was right that Phoenix could have done more to help Mia.
Also he killed Mia's mom as a way to save her sister and off the evil girl's spirit who was trying to kill Mia's sister.
>Phoenix was literally the only man in Mia's life at that point
That doesn't make him responsible for her in any way, and he had know way of knowing it was the case
>You'd think he'd want to delve closer to his boss and try to do everything to protect her
Why would you expect Phoenix to do this? Do you ask everyone you know about their secret personal endeavors? Why would he think she has a murderous stalker she needs to be protected from in the first place?
>Also he killed Mia's mom as a way to save her sister and off the evil girl's spirit who was trying to kill Mia's sister
Godot admits himself that he only killed her because he hated Dahlia, and would have done it even if it was Pearl channeling her. He clearly didn't give a shit what happened to Maya or Pearls, if he did, he would have just told Phoenix that Morgan Fey gave Pearl murder plans, or even just burned the plans when he had the chance
But no, he wanted an excuse to stab an already dead woman and kill an innocent person in the process
I know I sound irrational but I just feel like Phoenix didn't do enough to get close to Mia since they were the only two in their office.
Yes but there was still a part of Godot that did want to save Maya because she was Mia's sister. The way he went about it might not have been the most ideal but he did end up saving her at the cost of Mia's mom's life.
>Phoenix could have done more to help Mia.
homie, what?
>Also he killed Mia's mom as a way to save her sister
This was calculated murder. He easily could have overpowered that 5 foot lightweight.
Instead he went to that plot device staff, pulled out the blade and stabbed her.
Dahlia is fricking crazy. She already poisoned his ass once. Brute forcing it isn't going to work on her.
Read your sentence again and find out yourself how stupid it sound.
It sounds pretty logical to me.
Dahlia is a 70 pound woman who only used deception and poison as weapons. She is NOT the fricking terminator.
Anon you fail to understand that her weight means nothing and that dangerous people will do unpredictable things in a straight up fight. Like even when they did fight, she managed to injure Godot.
>her weight means nothing
Wrong. Weight is a huge factor in a fight.
>dangerous people will do unpredictable things
It was dangerous regardless what he did, since everyone was so incompetent to let it come to this.
Fact is, there were other ways to solve it, but he choose murder instead.
Phoenix wright is tough and able of handling deadly shit with minor wounds, he couldve beaten redd white's ass
We are not talking about Redd White
We are now.
Frick no. Not even Franziska could save that mess.
Nick didn't win a single fight.
He TANKED hundreds of whip strikes, a fire extinguisher to the head, third degree burn from coffee, a fricking car and a bird.
his best durability feat is probably his fall from the rope bridge
has no strength feats though, to my knowledge
He kicked open a sealed door in Case 2 of Justice for All.
He beat Galactus by throwing papers at him
who would win in a fight, phoenix wright or squirrel girl
That's impossible to know because they'd never fight, they'd always just manage to talk things out offscreen
who would win in an argument, phoenix wright or squirrel girl
honestly not a half bad crack ship
Phoenix would win any argument, but if Squirrel Girl felt strongly enough about the argument she'd throw squirrels at him until he decided to just admit that she's right.
It's a shame that if they ever wound up making another crossover fighter we probably wouldn't get a wild pick like him again
>It's a shame that if they ever wound up making another crossover fighter we probably wouldn't get a wild pick like him again
Would be disappointing but with nu-Capcom, it wouldn't surprise me.
He sued Hulk to death with finger laser.
>whip strikes, a fire extinguisher to the head, third degree burn from coffee, a fricking car and a bird.
And he lost consciousness many times.
tbf if you had enough pull in the government to set-up kangeroo courts at will. Murder being the first option is pretty reasonable.
Redd white couldve tried to blackmail mia
Godot's shtick was it to be an butthole to Nick throughout the whole game.
So no different from Franziska and even Edgeworth.
Slightly more so
Wasn't there a double penalty where you could accuse the judge for hiding murder weapon?
Yeah. He got so pissed off that he killed your entire healthbar.
He doesnt kill your entire healthbar, you lose 8 hp, and you have 10 hp
Actually it's 9 hp. 5 from Godot, 4 from the judge.
So practically most of your health is gone if you try to accuse the judge.
>WHAT'S THAT!? YOU WANT A DOUBLE!? HERE YA GO!!
Easily the best penalty in game
It was honestly worth it. Couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it.
>Godot
That case was in Justice for All
Can't blame him for forgetting since AA2 had some forgettable cases
what do you guys think about the various gimmicks in the series?
>bracelet
absolute shit tier.
>"aha! you twitched your ring finger, which means you're lying!"
>"but can you prove that I was lying?"
>"...h-huh?"
not only is every aspect of it some stupid bullshit, it's incredibly slow and tedious
at least you get to have a closer look at some character models.
>mood matrix
toddler tier.
combines basic empathy with a simon says toy to create an insultingly infantilizing mini game.
>magatama
gives a little meat to investigations, nothing too world shaking
i think it's nice that it uses similar mechanics to evidence in trial
>edgeworth's logic
also nonoffensive, it's intuitive to literally connect the dots between two pieces of evidence
can often be finicky with which pieces of evidence go together
>kay's hologram shit
adds another dimension to investigations, but otherwise is little different than just having a different screen to investigate
operates off of bullshit
>logic chess
a slightly more subtle version of the mood matrix
not hard, but it's the only gimmick with a time limit
>divination seance
honestly kino just for the visual aspect alone, seeing the crime play out is neat
sometimes feels contrived to avoid revealing the murderer
>dance of deduction
i like it, but scholmes being a fool is pretty grating after a while
when you think about it, it's just another way of summing up investigations
>flash of insight
nothing spectacular, but it's a nice way to tie together loose ends and hit the climax of the case
It's crazy you hate the the bracelet gimmick but loved the diviniation seance. after the the first one, i dreaded having to do it especially in the third chapter.
they're not even comparable, lol
i forgot to mention, i do like how the divination seance explicitly makes use of more senses
i don't see what you think is so bad about the divination seances
Because it gets tedious as frick after the first round of it. Like sure you mention the whole senses thing but it's not that different from the mood matrix in where you pick up on certain emotions.
ehh, i get that it may be tedious, but most of the gimmicks are to be honest
at least the divination seance usually requires some sort of thought, the mood matrix is insulting in that it solely requires one to think "hey, wait, you shouldn't be happy when someone dies"
Yeah the mood matrix was easy but the divination seance just feels like an extension of that with trying to pick up on senses where mood matrix was on picking up on feelings.
Edgeworth's gimmicks were the best since him just deducing things following his train of thought is way cooler than having to rely on some supernatural crutch.
if you guys could make a new gimmick, what would it be?
i think some thing really simple like a forensics mini game where you reassemble evidence would be something simple and fun, if not revolutionary
New gimmick, guilty-not guilty bar, the more mistakes you make, the more it goes to the guilty side, reaching the extreme end of guilty results in an insta game over, if you finish the case while the bar is at the guilty side, your client will be declared guilty but you can move on to the next case, the story and ending are affected by your results in previous trials.
Do you have anymore chuubas in this position? Also, is this a reference to something? Please tell if so. I dont watch em, but this mouse looks qt
Do you guys think these twins eventually took Trucy on her offer and joined the Wright Agency?
with apollo gone, they have enough room in that office for more people. so yeah. i presume those bunnies joined up at a later point.
They absolutely fricked Apollo behind the stage after the case, why would they join without Apollo?
yes, my uncle works at Capcom and he told me the next game will have them as assistants for one of the cases for AA7
>Phoenix getting cute bunnies to tag along with him
AA7 can't come soon enough
Play the tape.
O Holy Mother
Just let it go and move on already.
>AA7 has Athena as the sole main character
>her rival prosecutor is Franziska
Would you play it?
depends on who the other characters like the assistant and the detective are
Her assistant is probably apollo and the detective is ema
Apollo and Ema are both currently in Khurain doing Nahyuta's bidding.
I do wonder how Apollo is doing. Being the only defense attorney in the entire country has to be rough.
Literally the most boring options you could've picked.
Absolutely, Athena has potential, and Franziska has no reason to be left out for so God damn long, especially after that cliffhanger at the end of JFA.
>apollo
He left the agency at the end of Khurain. Maybe Peenix? 4-1 was fun with him as the assistant.
>Athena has potential
I hate this meme so much.
It's a meme because she's been in the shadow of Apollo without proper development for 2 games now.
Because she sucks and works better as an assistant ala Maya and Trucy. The development team realized it and so should you.
frick that, give me a game where juniper is the judge
>juniper
Literally who
>AA7 has Athena as the sole main character
Based
>her rival prosecutor is Franziska
Cringe
man, i just remembered how much i like the vertical lines on athena's dress shirt that go over her nipples
anyways cringe
I will never not be mad that they quietly gave Detective Gumshoe the boot.
I will never not be mad that they squandered Detective Fulbright by making him a boring faceless twist villain.
>spoiler
You're a homosexual. That was a kino twist. Gumshoe getting no update is suffering though. Atleast they mention him in AA6.
i think the opposite. it's good that the new writers didnt touch him. investigations did enough damage already.
There should be a klavier gavin aai spinoff
Honestly, the aa4 apollo justice game always felt like a fangame, as if the fangame dev wanted to force their oc defense attorney by making phoenix lose his badge and only used the characters they liked.
apollo really does feel like an OC donut steel with all the shit they've done to him
i honestly could not believe it when he went all edgy mode with the jacket and bandages, comically bad
Nah, hobo Phoenix is great.
Crazy how we went from this back to the old Phoenix. It's like traces of his AA4 self vanished in the 5th game onwards.
He's not completely gone. When you seeing him from the perspective of Apollo or Athena he actually seems really well put together. Which makes me think he may have been panicking internally at several points in AJ
I suppose that's true. He still seems to shit on Apollo here and there when we're playing as Apollo. But if he was panicking at points during AA4 then he sure did a good job hiding it behind that poker face.
Then I remember we got his POV in the last case of the game and his internal thoughts had traces of his old self.
Sorry Athenabros
https://www.gematsu.com/2017/11/rumor-two-ace-attorney-compilations-new-mainline-entry-coming-switch-2018
So do you guys think that the bombing of the Crystal Tower was plot point that they planned to have at some point in time before dropping, or was there just for the joke of having the terrorist show up later as a juror? I assumed it was going to be relevant in GAA2, but I don't think that any of that was even referenced.
I don't think it was gonna mean anything too deep. But a Asougi Investigations game will probably delve into that.
I still can't believe Phoenix was playable in MvC3.
The one who actually committed the crime... WAS YOU!
I'm surprised we never got a crossover with Danganronpa like with Professor Layton.
keep that shit away from ace attorney
honestly speaking, which cases are harder to solve, Ace Attorney's or Danganronpa's
From a gameplay point of view, or an in universe point of view?
both, i suppose
I only played DR1 some 10 or so years ago on my Vita so my memory's pretty rusty, but aren't all the cases meant to be solvable in universe, because it wouldn't be a meaningful win for "despair" if "hope" had no chance, or some fricking nonsense like that? And in terms of gameplay I don't remember anything besides truth bullets and some choices. If you didn't have to dig through an evidence log to figure out what the contradiction is then yeah I'm gonna say that Dangan is easier on both accounts.
This is why I'm glad AA never did a crossover with that shit game. AA doing a crossover with Umineko would be kino though.
>AA doing a crossover with Umineko would be kino though.
Tyrion Cuthbert is pretty much that.
For me it's less about "AA with magic people" and more "AA but plays out like an Umineko gameboard". It would be interesting to see how they manage to integrate things like red/blue truths in gameplay.
I would have enjoyed Umineko more if it was an actual game outside of ep8
>It would be interesting to see how they manage to integrate things like red/blue truths in gameplay.
Final argument vs. Eris
I will have to play this shit eventually. Did they actually reference Umi's system?
No. But it's exactly how it works there.
Manifesting a blood contract out of nowhere was peak kinography
Not in case 4 though, that was an asspull. Case 5 however does it right.
Danganronpa's "non-stop debate" is very close to how cross-examination in AA works, but far less complex in terms of how much room for error exists.
It has two main differences: pressing doesn't exist and the evidence list is limited in each debate. The latter is affected by difficulty settings, hardest mode will add more bullets
BONE ON THE MEAT
Because the AA characters would mog the DR characters to death. It's not an equal balance here. Layton is a suitable peer for Phoenix even though Layton is leagues smarter. Makoto is out of his element against Phoenix.
one of the things makoto has going for him is the fact he was in a death game, which i think is a unique possibly valuable experience that your average person would not have
you also do have to remember that makoto had much less to work with in terms of investigation compared to phoenix wright, and as far as i remember, had fewer closer calls, so he's not too shabby as far as mystery solving goes
He had Kyoko as a crutch. Phoenix mostly solved his cases himself with very minimal aid from Mia but he relied less on her help compared to Makofo relying on Kyoko.
Ace Attorney 7 for Switch 2?
You're moronic if you think it's skipping Switch 1. It's likely in development with that as base
I just beat investigations 2. Kinda sad that they turned the seemly h uman culprit from i2-2 into another mustache twirling villain and i don't like how contrived little thief is but still an amazing game
>mustache twirling villain
I hate how zoomies are so against these kinds of villains. Not every villain needs to be super complex and deep.
I personally didn't mind it for the other cases such as i2-4 but it would have been nice to have one killer that killed more out of fear of their lives as opposed to basically saying they were the devil themselves before getting put away. I thought thst case was more compelling without making roland out to be a completely heartless monster
It was fine with me because killing out of fear would have honestly been a boring motive for me. Just makes them look less intimidating imo.
what are these vertical sewn lines called
they're fricking HOT
It's called shirt creases you caveman.
but there are different kind of shirt creases right? is there a name for the ones that's specifically for the tiddies?
No. It's just called creases. You really want to fap to Athena's chest.
I wonder how many people got tricked thinking they got it wrong, even if they chose the right answer.
Such an awesome memory getting it right first try back when I was in high school. God, it was a trip playing these games back to back.
I always seethe when I know the answer but use the wrong evidence.
>I wonder how many people got tricked thinking they got it wrong, even if they chose the right answer.
Happened to me. Worst part is that I picked the right answer on my first attempt but reloaded prematurely, then wasted time trying every other piece of evidence and kept wondering what the frick is going on for a while.
Yep, I did the same exact thing.
Will Gumshoe return in AA7?
Why isnt gumshoe fat?
because he can't afford food
Gumshoe's pretty fat-coded through, for one, his front facing pw trilogy sprites make him look fat, you can even see his breasts, and since he's poor, he comes off as the kind of guy to eat cheap junk food all day instead
He's burly, overweight but a lot of it is muscle too. He definitely eats junk but he's a hard worker and probably lifts often. At least that's my impression.
Gumshoe's too broke to work out.
But he arrives at the crime scene really fast.
Cars
Why is meekins built like a fricking stick then?
>Cars
He literally runs
He has a car.
Meekins is a spastic cartoon character. His metabolism is probably insane. And he's also very accident-prone. He would definitely find some stupid way to get hurt in there.
>Why is meekins built like a fricking stick then?
Just because he can use the gym, doesn't mean he has to use it.
It's not uncommon for police stations to have gyms.
Blackquill is really the only good prosecutor from the AJ trilogy. Does anyone have anything good to say about Sahdmadhi?
no, you're right. Blackquill could be occasionally entertaining.
Nahyuta shits on Blackquill. Blackquill is overrated.
Not really, he sucks. I like Klavier in concept but he's strangely uninvested even when his bandmate and his brother are on the hook.
nahyuta was a better prosecutor than both klavier and blackquill combined. people just seethe over how mean he was to the lawyers. he actually managed to beat phoenix.
he's a true challenger.
Just finished replaying DD, bonus case included.
One thing I remember about it is that on my first playthrough, I figured out what will eventually be the Thought Route solution literally the very second the game talks about another incident involving an orca. Also I fricking forgot about the whole "victim was never caught walking into the crime scene room by the camera" contradiction at the start and somehow didn't figure it out again for a while.
>schizo literally samegay bumped his thread for 24 hours
How suicidal is he, knowing that nobody but him has been posting in this dumpsterfire of a thread?
>How suicidal is he
going by that last bump:
incredibly
>schizo is still at it
it's pretty pathetic
Why does he behave like this?
>Why does he behave like this?
Autism+HRT.
Deranged part is that he thinks he keeps convo "alive" by samegayging 400 times across 25 hours.
Mr. Nick and Mystic Maya are such a beautiful couple
>A-IIEE I RIPPED OUT-A MY DICK
>MY STINKDITCH IS BLEEDING AND GONE SEPTIC
kek
Probably the best pursuit music in the series. Its kino
>best pursuit
>posting anything but Cornered
They nailed it the first time and still never topped the original, even if you an argue some got very close.
I always thought it could be fun to see a case where it takes you to Von Karma's mansion in a rich suburb of Los Tokyo where all the townfolk still worship him and think the real "Dark Age of the Law" started when Phoenix and Edgeworth, both "actually puppets of the Cadaverini family", framed Manfred and Gant who were actually paragons of justice. And they'd still love Franziska which keeps causing awkward situations because Franziska has grown to resent her dead dad but she never went through publicly burning bridges because it'd be inconvenient.