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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    that gen4 gays will eat anything up
    worst gen of all time

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This but gen (whenevery you reading this entered middle school)

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah, i love gen 4 and i don't defend shit like rhyperior. i still think most of them are great, though.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        what's the problem with rhyperior? it looks like a dino-bulldoze with a drill on his head

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly think that Gen 4 is great EXCEPT in regard to Pokémon design.

      Holy shit, those designs alone make Pokémon Platinum drop from the second best main game to the third place.

      All in all, I still think the best main game is Emerald (Among other reasons, gen 3 has the best Pokémon design).

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no such thing as "bad Pokemon design"

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hating on Honchkrow
    kys

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yanmega
    >roserade
    >gliscor
    >weavile
    >froslass
    >mamoswine
    >porygon-Z
    all good

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gliscor is cool
    I like Yanmega too

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Togekiss is top 5 for me

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      i dont like how it loses its arms completely

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a bird you moron

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    most of these are fine. rhyperior, probopass and lickilicki are really the only ones that arent

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    some of them are sexo
    shut up

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    what were they thinking?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      what were you thinking, posting that pic for ants?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      tinkaton is the greatest thing to ever come to pokemon and thus makes up for everything else including the water starter being a duck that turns into a peawiener

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't understand why they insist on doing propmons like this. Gen 1 could be forgiven for giving things spoons and other assorted shit to hold because it was experimental to begin with. They perfected the jobmon/propmon design with Delibird and Murkrow and I don't know how they keep fricking it up. That's literally just a hammer with some splotches of paint and a bone sticking out. There's absolutely not way these little fricks were capable of making it. Braixen and Delphox were alright because they're holding plain sticks, but then you have Rillaboom's stupid fricking drum it just carries around.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gen 5 was unironically peak Pokémon design
      >inb4 muh ice cream and muh trash bag

      I can't believe gen 6 added this rounded simplified for 3D abomination, they got so fricking lazy in gen 6

      3D was a mistake
      gen 6 killed the series with these garbage designs

      You could tell they really cut corners in gen 6, look at how fricking lazy these designs are they, they literally just copied the models and changed the textures

      this is not pokemon, glad i stopped in gen 2, my eyes are bleeding

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bleed more.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >LET'S SLAP PINK SPIKES ON DONPHAN AND CALL IT A NEW POKEMON !
      >LET'S COLOR TENTACOOL BROWN AND CALL IT A NEW POKEMON !
      >LET'S DRAW THE MOST SIMPLISTIC CARTOON MOUSE POSSIBLE AND CALL IT A NEW POKEMON !
      >etc.
      these designs are all way worse than the designs in the OP. pokemon designs in the 3D era were a mistake

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even in 3d they're ugly and I can't see them being good as 2d animated sprites either
        The only good designs are tinkaton and maybe tatsugiri, everything else is trash or pandering to older gens with all the paradoxmons
        I wish gen9 would be the wake up call for morons to stop buying the fricking games but we all know that's never going to happen just like it didn't happen in gen 8, or gen 7, or gen 6, pokemon is here to stay,

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          i wasn't using 3D by itself as a scapegoat for the designs being bad, i've seen fan made sprite art of 3D era designs and they still look bad, i just think gen 5 was the last good gen for pokemon designs which also happens to be the last 2D era gen

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are still one or two good designs each gen from 6-8 but that's miniscule compared to the sheer shit that makes up most of those entries.
            I understand why people hate gen 5 but I think it's still admirable that GF actually tried something new with that generation, even though they failed with it. I bought Gen6 and it was the last gen I ever bought, what a completely forgettable experience and a perfect foreshadowing of what was to come.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          and you think people stopping the buying they are to change the design philosophy? japan are the only consooming these new designs because they consoom,

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm just gonna post a pasta I wrote before because it's accurate enough to the conversation

            I used to ask this question a lot, but I think I found the answer and it's pretty damn simple.
            It's because game freak is not catering to you. They're not catering to some random butthole crying about it on an anonymous basket weaving forum, they're not catering to pronoun homosexuals on twitter, they're not catering to youtube content creators trying to milk clickbait views.
            Now wait, I'm going somewhere with this. Pokemon is over 25 years old at this point. The children who grew up with pokemon now have children of their own, and parents aren't concerned about their kids having deep storylines, or gameplay that isn't easily solved at surface level for kids to easily enjoy. They want something they can pick up and give to their kids to play, and they know that pokemon will always deliver on that front. It doesn't need to evolve as a game series because parents don't CARE for it to change, and in fact would rather not because parents just want to give something to their kids that's exactly what they remember it being. It's why most generational gimmicks are just that, gimmicks that barely change the core gameplay. And to capitalize on the sales every generation, there are always a hundred or so new pokemon/variants plus returning mascots, because they make more money with new pokemon instead of trying to sell you a plushie of Feebas or some other forgettable poke.
            This is why the bulk of pokemon's budget goes towards marketing and merchandise, because that results in the highest net profit. You can only make so much money off $60 games with a bit more nickle and diming, but if you sell ten plushies for $20 a pop, plushies that cost a dollar to make, then you start seeing dollar signs. The games exist largely as a vehicle to drive merch. A cursory look shows that the games have only netted approximately $27 billion, while merchandise is up to at least $91 billion.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            japan like simpe cute thing thats why kirby and sanrio is so popular

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      roserade is kino

      arboliva is kino

      Gen 5 was unironically peak Pokémon design
      >inb4 muh ice cream and muh trash bag

      jellicent is kino

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The themes were MUSIC and FUTURE TECHNOLOGY and I think UK

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I'd frick Mismagius, Roserade, Gliscor, Weavile and Porygon Z

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are only 9 pokemon in the image which I wouldn't

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It just gets fatter

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the right places.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      i want Roserade to get fatter

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yanmega, Gliscor, and Porygon-Z are S tier

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What were they thinking?
    “Man, a lot of Gen 2 mons were absolutely shit. Let’s give them a second chance.”

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They forgot Delibird

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Delibird was mad intentionally as a joke.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I see 2 or 3 bad designs. Rest are fine

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Evolutions aren't bad but the pre-evolutions are worthless pokedex filler. There was no reason for them to exist other than to say they made 100 more mons.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      From a living world point of view, I prefer having a "young" form.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5 was unironically peak Pokémon design
    >inb4 muh ice cream and muh trash bag

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit this
      trubbish is my favorite

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gen 5
      >peak
      it's consistently shit with the few good mons being VERY good, but unfortunately the generation as a whole is pretty bad
      Smugleaf is good but the evos suck, other starters suck as well
      Audino is okay, scolipede is okay
      Krookodile is based
      Maractus a cute, same with joltik and galvantula
      Ferrothorn is okay
      Chandelure is best gen5 waifumon
      Volcarona is also good

      Which is a fair few but pretty much everything else is either just mediocre, or irredeemable trash

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every bug in Gen 5 is great, opinion discarded

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          the leavanny line is...fine, but it doesn't do it for me

          By far the shittiest and least popular designs in the series. UnovaBlack folk live in a fantasy world lol.

          is this a list of popularity? this is a shit tier list if so.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            by merchandise sold in japan

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              most of the mons in that category make sense in that context, especially since a lot of them are the pet analogues so they'd be popular with families
              glad to see japs have some taste with things like chandelure, but then you have fricking alcreamie (is this because of cafes selling coasters with it or something?) and shit legendaries like zeraora and lunala

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        gen 5 has peak waif

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          shit tier taste

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frick you. I'd rawdog the piss out of Mienshao.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      By far the shittiest and least popular designs in the series. UnovaBlack folk live in a fantasy world lol.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gen 5 was unironically peak Pokémon design
      LMAO. Gen 5 is fricking gross and is filled with the most disgusting dogshit designs in the series.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gen 5 is either the greatest designs or the absolute worst in the series with no inbetween. While gen 4 is my favorite I will always cherish 5 for the bug pokemon it introduced.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Roggenrola has the best name.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        tbh the elmo and bart judokas are kinda brilliant and I would've liked them in the first one

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like this image gets blurrier every time I see it posted

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah thats how jpg works

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hate that I have to agree with this pic.

        Unlike most poke-autists, I really liked the idea of only including new pokemon. Makes it feel fresh and unburdened by the load of 900+ past pokemon. Too bad they decided this one time to pick the most dogshit pokemon designs. Yeah there are like 10 good ones but the rest are gen 1 copypastas or turds.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's kind of the point of gen 5, since it was initially meant to work as a soft-reboot, they took the original archetypes from gen 1 and redefined them with different types or stats.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why do people pretend like this isn't a thing in almost every gen? There's always a bunch of tropes and archetypes that get reused or recontextualized, but now because there are no previous mons in the region, suddenly everyone notices this is a thing. The only difference with the latest gens is that instead of making new designs inspired by the original ones, they just take the original one and give it a mustache or turn it into a robot.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        they went on record saying they wanted gen 5 to be a soft reboot of gen 1 hence why designs and evolution lines are so similar

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just don't get why they had to repeat so many concepts from the first gen, but make the designs way worse.
      Zebstrika is the same concept as Rapidash, but both of these lines have good designs.
      Then you have fricking Conkeldurr and Seismitoad being godawful takes on Machamp and Poliwrath.
      Vanilluxe is great

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seismitoad is not worse than Poliwrath, come on. Politoed, sure, but not "just gets bigger" Poliwrath.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lots og good designs but at least just as much garbage, a polarizing dex.
      Kino region for Dark types.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's just what happens when you have so many designs. Gen 1 isn't exactly a shining example of monster design, as much as it gets fellated. It's not really surprising that later gens scaled back on the amount of new designs. Bug-type also got a lot of love, and Ghost has a good selection as well. Honestly I think the only mediocre or bad designs are the genies and the monkeys and maybe the muppet men. People complain about these but they're doing better than Hitmonchan at not looking like they're just wearing clothes.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hate vanilluxe and garbador on release
      >almost a decade later and i actually like them a lot more

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    screw you guys I fricking love Delibird

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You like SHIT

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You like KINO

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Delibird is fine, I just wish it had an evolution.
      Only until like a year or two ago I pronounced it like deli-bird because I didn't realize it was a play on words and pronounced like "delivered"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...I did not know that either.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not very clear is it? I'm surprised I've never heard it said out loud before.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ambipom
    Lickylicky
    all the babymons
    Those are the only bad ones

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What were they thinking?
    "People really seem to like Pokémon that evolve and don't like the ones that don't evolve as much."
    All of my IRL friends absolutely refuse to use Pokémon if they don't evolve.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yanmega, Togekiss, Mismagius, Gliscor, Magnezone are all great.
    Weavile, Tangrowth, Roserade, PorygonZ are all okay.
    The rest are shit though.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Roserade vine pussy

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    gliscor and froslass are both 10/10, cry homosexual

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    still 100000 times better than the dogshit pokedex from GEN 5 , there are 157 pokemon in unova and none is popular, unovaflop kek

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gen 5 was unironically peak Pokémon design
    TOP FRICKING KEK

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen 5 fans has not right shit another dex when they get the most gabrgae designs in existence

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon are you having a stroke?

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >grrr they criticize our designs!!
    >I know! let's ruin old pokémon lines!
    >that'll show them!
    That's what the spiteful pieces of shit were thinking.

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop clogging this with Gen 5 hate or else I'm gonna flood this thread with questionable ghost Pokemon art

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      you better not do it!
      you better do it!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah?

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    yanmega is cool
    tegekiss is silly and cool
    ultra rhyhorn looks like crap
    honchkrow is one of the most based motherfrickers in the game
    misdrevious is kewl
    monkey is lame
    rose girl looks horrible
    nosepass ultra is antisimetic
    bat scorpion sucks
    Magmar with gun is stupid
    duskowl ultra looks bad
    sneasel ultra looks worse
    fat likitung horrible
    tengela stupid
    magneton ultra looks awesome
    porygon z bad
    ultra electibuzz is... ok
    mamoswine is great
    galade is bad
    that ice one is horrible
    all seven of those babies are epic, i love baby pokem on 🙂

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      you dont know their names

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bat scorpion sucks
      have a nice day.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still mad

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      as someone who loves grass and ignores this line WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't think that this is one of the coolest mofos in the whole series then you don't know shit about pokemon

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      *tips fedora*

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon's designs are groupable into 3 eras:
    >gen 1 & 2: what if fantasy monsters evolved in a modern world
    >gen 3-5: what if fantasy monsters were plopped into a modern world without being grounded
    >gen 6+: what if we could make more money by cutting corners

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool! show how gen 6 designs are different from gen 5 designs.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rounded, simplified and more generic due to being designed with 3D in mind

        I don't even remember Gen 6's starters. 6, 8, and 9 are the most bottom of the barrel design generations because at least the ugly ones from 1-5 were experimental and Gen 7 had a bit of personality.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Rounded, simplified and more generic due to being designed with 3D in mind
          congrats, you just described gen 5’s designs.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >being deliberately stupid for the sake of argumentation

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't even remember Gen 6's starters
          LOL ok Black person, greninja alone mogs the entire shitnova dex.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Gen 5: 2 popular starters
            >Gen 6: 1 popular starter
            Sorry sis, chadnova wins

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >>Gen 5: 2 popular starters
              kek you wish Black person, shitnova starters are by far the least popular in the series. tepig is the ONLY starter not to make the top 100; see

              By far the shittiest and least popular designs in the series. UnovaBlack folk live in a fantasy world lol.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >least popular
                but enough about delphox and chesnaught
                >tepig
                and the other two are popular, your point?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Swadloon
                What a meme poll

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Rounded, simplified and more generic due to being designed with 3D in mind
          You're right, Gen 6 designs were shit.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not saying every design from the better gens is a winner but the trend is that the 3D gens have worse designs.

            And the comparison you're making is based on the faulty assumption that they were trying to make Leavanny look edgy. That's like comparing Wigglytuff to Ursaring and saying "why are newer gen Normals so edgy'

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        why are gen 6 fans so obsessed with gen 5

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because a lot of Gen 6's criticisms at least started to manifest in black and white.

          But what they don't take into account is that Gen 5 either didn't have those flaw to the same severity later gens did, or at the very least it had enough good or unique things to balance out the bad.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            > Gen 5 either didn't have those flaw to the same severity later gens did
            Which later gen had a legendary trio where all three are just palette swaps of eachother?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But what they don't take into account is that Gen 5 either didn't have those flaw to the same severity later gens did
            Sorry but the only game more handholding and hyper-linear than Sun and Moon is Black and White, there's no Rotom dex but there may as well be considering you get stopped by an npc every time you enter and leave a map, and the region itself is a straight line, compared to that X and Y has much more freedom for coming and going and areas off the way that you can explore without being required to do so by the story.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry which gen was it again that had the three copy/pasted genies and the copy/pasted gears and the copy/pasted ice cream and the copy/pasted monkeys? was it the one that cut corners?

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rhyperior, Magmortor and Electivire are Big O, Big Duo and Big Fau respectively.

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weird how Porygon Z is the only good design

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen4 really was the beginning of the end
    thank God bug types managed to avoid these godawful designs relatively unscathed

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bug types were okay in gen4-5 but by gen 6 you're getting MAYBE one good bug type each gen if you're lucky and the rest are dogshit, even worse than other types in those gens
      they really did our type dirty throughout all of pokemon's history

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Bug types were okay in gen4-5 but by gen 6 you're getting MAYBE one good bug type each gen
        This. Bug types took a fricking nosedive after Gen 5.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Buzzwole is shit. Vikavolt is okay but Charjabug is a dumb pre-evo. Golisopod is cool.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Charjabug is a dumb pre-evo
            It's a fricking pupa, what did you expect? It's at least more creative than the other pupa mons due to resembling a battery.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >It's at least more creative than the other pupa mons due to resembling a battery.

              That's the issue
              If creativity = randomly slapping human-related themes on animals, I'd rather have an "uncreative" design

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If creativity = randomly slapping human-related themes on animals, I'd rather have an "uncreative" design
                But it is creative since the Vikavolt does a good job integrating man-made objects into beetles. Grubbin is a taser, Charjabug is a battery and Vikavolt is rail gun. It actually looks cool, not too unnatural and lets it stand out from the other beetle mons they've already done.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >43

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wish Kricketune was good so I had an excuse to go DELELELEWOOOOOOO every battle

  35. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    dare i say it...
    all of these are winners. every one.

  36. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What would be my ideal pokemon game?
    look for
    >ultra easy game
    >game without Grinding
    >linear game
    >game without exploration
    >game where it is impossible to get stuck
    >game where leveling up is ultra easy
    >non-competitive game
    >game for casual gamers
    >game where you never need to use strategies
    >game that is even easier than Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      XY was the first game with the full party exp share and so it's where the exp share was the least balanced. XY is the closest thing to what you want.

  37. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rhyhorn and Rhydon are so cool that it’s borderline criminal to design Rhyperior the way that they did. How could that possibly have been approved. It’s like missing a layup because you forgot how to run.

  38. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe gen 6 added this rounded simplified for 3D abomination, they got so fricking lazy in gen 6

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are many different types of jellyfish IRL.

  39. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Babymom a shit but I love new permanent evolutions. Better than generational gimmick temporary transformation nostalgiabait the series has suffered from since gen 6

  40. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  41. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    3D was a mistake
    gen 6 killed the series with these garbage designs

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gen 6
      >Heatmor
      The Discord raider can't even genwar properly. Go have a nice day.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe gen 6 added this rounded simplified for 3D abomination, they got so fricking lazy in gen 6

      >Rounded, simplified and more generic due to being designed with 3D in mind
      You're right, Gen 6 designs were shit.

      Seething now time to cope

  42. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  43. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Gen 5 when that british homosexual started making pokemon? Lol

  44. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the bat, the bird with the hat, the one with the tongue, the 3d polygon, the blue tentacle and the cat with yellow israeliteel are good designs

  45. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could tell they really cut corners in gen 6, look at how fricking lazy these designs are they, they literally just copied the models and changed the textures

  46. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  47. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly can't think of any bigger cope than pretending pokemon designs stop being good at Gen 5 lol. It's by far the shittiest dex in the series, worse than everything before and after it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Emboar is the only third stage starter to not make it
      lmao, shitnova homosexuals are so delusional

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >gen 5 hating zoomie doesn't even know Meganium exists
        kek

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, gen 5 is zoomiecentral...

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And I just proved that that anon was without a doubt a zoomie too. It's all zoomies, everywhere.

  48. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  49. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    togekiss, mismagius, gliscor, porygon-z and weavile are good

  50. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AWESOME TIER-
    Yanmega, Honchcrow, Roserade, Dusklops
    >novel idea, poor execution tier-
    porygon z, magnezone, mamoswine, manly gardevoir, froslass
    >boring tier
    gliscor, lickitung evo, togekiss, tangroth, mismagus, weavile
    >terrible tier
    magmortar, electivire
    >abortion tier
    nosepass, aipombom, rhyperior

    >gay babby tier
    allt he gay babbys

  51. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dusknoir is my favorite 'Mon.
    Electivire, Yanmega, and Honchkrow in the top 10.
    Porygon-Z, Magnezone, Gliscor, and Togekiss are all great

  52. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  53. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOO YOUR NOT SUPPPOSED TO GIVE DEX FILLER SHIT MONS ACTUAL COOL LOOKING EVOLUTIONS NONONONONO

  54. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  55. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question not for the schizo how did Unova devolve into such a threadkiller after how well received it was during it's pre-/release era here and on /vp/?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Worst selling mainline games. Make that as you.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Autistic people shitting everywhere and then everyone else not wanting to deal with them.

  56. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Yanmega
    >Togekiss
    >Mismagius
    >Gliscor
    >Weavile
    >Tangrowth
    >Magnezone
    >Electivire
    >Mamoswine
    >Gallade
    >Mantyke
    >Munchlax

    These are some of my favorite designs though.

  57. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rhyperior, Ambipom, Magmortar, and Lickitungy are the only shit ones.
    Also, frick babymon haters.

  58. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    As for me

  59. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    baby pokemon are moronic & gay.
    useless and made for little girls

  60. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  61. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gigachad Hypno slaying pussy

  62. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they were all pretty cool. Being tacked on to the bottom of the dex felt like they were all made with the intention of competitive battling, thus also being used by an older demographic. They all look capable of fighting. Now we having sushi and A FRICKING BRIDGE in the meta scene.

  63. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of the biggest problems with gen 4 was the small number of new ideas. You don't see that many new pokemon because so much of the design effort was spent on expanding old evolution lines or legendaries.

    The evolutions and babies aren't all bad though, but it'd be better if they put more time into adding more new ideas as well that could enrichen the world. And some of them actually are bad.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's Jap autism; they did it all intentionally.
      Gen 4 is about creation and evolution, the first 3d-esque games, so they added a ton of evolutions to fit their theme.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe. Every gen should add cross-evos, one of the better aspects of gen 9.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      baby pokemon and shit pokemon/single evolution pokemon/not enough evolution pokemon are the absolute worst content they can add from a consumer perspective
      >zero effort dex filler
      >can add baby pokemon next gen

      absolute trashfire game design, baby pokemon and single evolving should not add to the dex counter for their development goals

  64. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything past gen 2 is fricking pile of shit someone liking or defending this should just have a nice day

  65. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  66. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of these are alright, but

    >Magmortar
    >Rhyperior
    >Probopass
    >Lickylicky

    Objectively cannot be defended

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Magmortar's arm cannons are badass.
      Magmar's face already looked moronic.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just wanna know why they changed it from a duck bill to lips

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Metroid is such a cool guy, i love his arm cannon

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Probopass
      >cannot be defended
      Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like his mustache

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Magmortar is honestly less fug than Magmar.
      Rhyperior was necessary because otherwise Rhydon was outclassed by Aggron.
      Probopass is fug but then again so is Nosepass.
      Lickilicky is the one I truly find offensive given how much I like Lickitung.

  67. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen 4 is fricking ugly the legendaries are bad digimon rejects.and lucario is a renamon rip off, imagine defending this shit company stealing from other superior franchises

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Suicide. Now.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      unoriginal overrated series since day 1

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        dragon quest was always shit too
        but it's nice to know that all asians still can't not steal ideas blatantly no matter the circumstance

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dragon Quest is ugly as shit tough.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        holy shit

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      sinnoh fossils are shit too only supassed by gen 8 fossils

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rampardos is good.
        Shit in battle, but good design

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      heatran is fugly, palkia's a dick, and the lake trio is bland as hell. but the rest of them are fine, darkrai is best mythical btw

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >darkrai is best mythical btw
        thats deoxys

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
  68. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yanmega is fricking rad
    Honckrow is kino classy
    Roserade is elegant as frick
    Gliscor, batman looking motherfricker is K-I-N-O
    Weavile, this little homie oozes style and simplicity
    Magnezone futuristic son of a b***h looking like he's about to zap your dumbass for dissing him
    Mamoswine, look at them tusks, homosexual, RESPECT THEM
    Gallade, motherfricker's got FRICKING ARM BLADES, how is that not cool to you?
    Froslass, look how elegant she is, b***h is gonna give you the iciest bj's in town and you're gonna call her shit?
    Man you're such a gay

  69. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, this thread is attracting all sorts of autists.

  70. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    not kanto toriyama eyes=not pokemon. shit design

  71. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly, the intention was to rebalance gen 1, 2 and 3 while adamantly refusing to change the stats of older Pokemon, most of these are evolutions to gen 1, 2 and 3 mons that were stuck in a sort of 2.5 evo instead of having something on the level of Machamp, Crobat or Aggron.
    The babies are mostly for egg moves.

  72. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    ambimpom is one of worst thing in existence

  73. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >godlike evos
    Gliscor
    Froslass
    Magnezone
    Honchkrow
    Yanmega
    Porygon-Z
    >good but not great
    Mismagius
    Weavile
    Roserade
    Dusknoir
    >meh
    togekiss
    Probopass
    Electivire
    gallade
    tangrowth
    mamoswine
    >shit
    magmortar
    rhyperior
    ambipom
    lickylicky
    >babies
    babies

    Its a mixed bag, but im overall happy.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      what does >babies babies mean? I like the baby mon

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        babies

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If i had to give a judgement, design wise they are all alright, nothing really stand out as great or shit.

        Main issue is that they can stop some mons from getting more evos like pichu forever dooming pikachu line to be subpar, but in the case of gen4 babies none of them did that as Blissey is great and Roserade was alright at the time.

  74. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen IV was fine.

  75. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post trainers.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

  76. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 4 was the last good gen.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was the first bad gen. Uninspired region, shit pokemon, worst box legendaries. It was the beginning of the end.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope. It was the last region with no blacks, last region set in Japan, last region without foreigners designing the Pokemon, etc.

        You have shit taste.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          So nothing to do with the actual game. Concession accepted.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Concession accepted.
            You already lost the argument. Keep up

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gen IV is great. First bad one is XY, frick off homosexual.

  77. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Porygon-Z is incredible
    Roserade is pretty cool
    Mismagius, Yanmega, Weavile, Gallade, Froslass are alright
    The rest exist

  78. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros im trying to ignore the mismagius poster but their art is getting to me

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop arguing about a children's game.
      Embrace ghost witch.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd rather a ghost chandelier

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not a lot of cute/questionable art of it for to flood the thread with, sorry. Cool design though.

          i rather the ghost physic type

          This mon is surprisingly less popular than I thought. I thought people would be all over it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the problem is its not a edgey looking ghost type, its slower than what it appears, and it has many weaknesses compared the solgoleo (4 x weakness to ghost and dark)

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Make sense, but I don't know I thought it give a feminine vibe from its design and people would just have made constant fat bat tats art of it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                they do. but with so many legendaries out now, theres no room for people to remember it

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ever since X and Y box legendaries have been given slightly gendered designs, with Xerneas, Lunala, Zacian and Miraidon all looking relatively softer and more feminine than Yveltal, Solgaleo, Zamazenta and Koraidon.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >rehsiram is not feminine
                sure

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ghost designs in general have gotten much more interesting and creative, for the life of me I can't understand why the frick Gengar is so popular.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If I had to guess I'd say it's because gengar is always depicted as a childish prankster that just wants to play around and have fun, it's like the equivalent of throwing a bedsheet over your head for halloween, even if you don't have an expensive costume you can go out and enjoy it for what it is.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's was the first ghost introduced (and the only ghost when introduced). It's also Ken Sugimori's favorite design he's made which means it gets special attention from GF a lot which makes people never forget it. Personally I think Haunter is a way cooler design but eh.

            they do. but with so many legendaries out now, theres no room for people to remember it

            Sad. Love some fat bat tats.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            because he is based
            a simple evocative design. tapped into a nirvana tshirt kinda zeitgeist.

            also he looks much worse in 3d so there's that

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Gengar can either look really creepy or really goofy, there's no inbetween

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Most pokemon could do with more contrast specially since the Gen 6 3D models came.
              I do agree Gengar and others could use a special filter for effects, Chandelure, for example, got a massive upgrade once they added actual light to the fire...

              Speaking of which, it's about time they design real fire instead of just "cloth fire" for lack of a better term. It can be stylized, just don't make it look like it's a fricking panel painted like fire wobbling around

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ghost designs in general have gotten much more interesting and creative
            and cofhomosexual is not an example of that lol. that might be the shittiest design in the series.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The truth is that ghost design peaked with haunter

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        i rather the ghost physic type

  79. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  80. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    these are all great mons. except for magmortar looking frickugly and rhyperior too kinda.
    but nah yeah. all of these guys are tru homies

    t. gen2gay who hasn't played a retail pokemon game since hgss

  81. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't cared about 'competitive' Pokemon since Gen 5, is Porygon 2 with Eviolite still better than Porygon Z?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      isn't modern pokemon competitive just spamming big dumb STAB moves? seems like the only shit that would matter is having bigger numbers to spam bigger STABs

  82. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If only

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's too sexy, anon

  83. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stats were getting out of hand and some mons needed a buff

  84. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do we make the best pokemon gen

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let someone other than Gamefreak handle it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        They quite literally won't allow it anymore. Every time another company has gotten involved, those games always end up being some of the best regarded. Genius Sonority with >XD frick off and colosseum, Chunsoft with PMD, Niantic with Pokemon Go.
        I feel like Game Freak knows how incompetent they are and are so terrified of being shown up at this point that they REFUSE to allow anyone else to touch the IP.

  85. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  86. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    designs rate

    digimon>

    [...]

    gen 1-gen 3>>

    [...]

    quest

    [...]

    watch shadowdside>>>>>>>>>>

    [...]

    past gen 3>

    [...]

    watch

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >based digichad
      Digimon mogs every crap from pokeshit, how embarrasing

  87. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of those except baby Pokémon are good

  88. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the gen when stopped giving a shit to pogaymon

  89. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Circles mean based
    Xs mean cringe
    None means I don't care either way

    >Edit: Oh, thank you. I am pretty cool. So are you!

  90. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    oerdesigned trash

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      now that's a classic kek

      All these evolutions are based.
      You'll criticize these but not megas or gen 2 babymons (both of which are also cool).

      megas are gay
      most gen 4 evos are based
      all babymons are based

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gen 1 Garchomp would look even more simplified.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not enough spine spikes or horns for a gen 1 design.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying that gen4 zard doens't look cool

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The white on its belly kinda ruins it for me.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man, I really like that gen 1 Garchomp.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you like so much, why don't you just marry it?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't like it in a fug sort of way. Plenty of other pokemon for that.

  91. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    never played gen 4 but honchkrow is my favorite pokemon

  92. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All these evolutions are based.
    You'll criticize these but not megas or gen 2 babymons (both of which are also cool).

  93. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gallade is peak, and I'll never forgive GF for retconning his mega out of existence

  94. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only Pokemon in this image I actively don't like are Rhyperior and Ambipom. And even then, they're like, okay.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      actually the worst taste on this board, go live in the woods with no internet please

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stop getting your zingers from reddit circa 2012, moron.

  95. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Misdrevus/magius is my Buddy. The first Pokémon that called to me. Frick Pikachu, frick Charizard.

  96. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will never understand why they decided to condemn the first pokemon ever designed to such a dogshit hideous final evo for the rest of time

  97. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen 6 killed the series

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean fixed?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        no

        gen 6 has fricking awful designs

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >those fricking discs coming out of its head
          jesus they really simplified the designs for 3D

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          While she was Alakazam's "slot" in gen 5 she is clearly a failed attempt to recapture Gardevoir.
          It's like her designer was trying to insert his fetish into the game to try and generate porn but someone fricked up the design down the pipeline.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not everything is made to be porn, anon. It's a freakishly proportioned homunculus, which isn't a bad angle for a psychic being that mostly uses mental power over physical strength.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't believe the original designed was going for that at all, someone was fricking with him.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

      gen 6 has fricking awful designs

      >Complains about Gen 6
      >Posts Gen 5 Mons
      What did he mean by this

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        moronation

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        he’s making fun of the moron who claimed gen 5 designs are good and that gen 6 is to blame for simplifying and cutting corners.

  98. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    In hindsight most of them were pokino or inoffensive at worst
    Rhyperior is abysmal though

  99. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    good shit shit great eh wtf shit
    wtf eh eh eh eh shit shit
    good shit shit shit eh shit
    shit eh eh good eh eh eh

  100. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rhyperior is probably the only pokemon that genuinely offends me. Rhydon is the original pokemon, the platonic ideal for a pokemon as well as being aesthetically pleasing. It deserves a better thought out branch evolution, at least. Lean into the surfing rhydon meme, make it a special attacker and give it a combo lightning rod/storm drain ability.

  101. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you guys don't like dusknoir?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dusknoir fixes the design since I never liked Dusclops all that much. It returns to reaper from mummy.

      The problem is GF refuses to re-balance Dusknoir or give it some gimmick that makes it worth using. It's power boost from clops is so small evolite just makes it useless.

  102. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    good, good, bad, terrible, good, good, ok
    terrible, good, bad, ok, good, bad, good
    bad, good, good, good, ok, good
    (row of absolutely unnecessary shit forms no one asked for or wants, Munchlax is ok tho)

  103. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make way, best gen with best map coming through
    Too much water gays need not reply

  104. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >togekiss
    >roserade
    >mamoswine
    >frosslass
    >gallade
    >dusknoir
    all s tier designs

  105. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who hates Rhyperior has shit taste.

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