After a runaway success? They’ll go greedy like every company with a winning gen, and release the New Neo Nintendo Switch U. It’ll have barely any marketing and loses third parties after the first year on the maket.
Just stop with the additional gimmicks, the functionality of the switch is great, just put the charger on the top, at least double the battery life and graphics of the current generation, not previous.
>more power >more dev time
yeah ok >a more powerful AC takes longer to cool a room >a more powerful car that goes faster than most takes longer to get to the destination >a more powerful light will make the room dimmer >amore powerful speaker will make the sound quieter >a more powerful party composition will make the fight slower >a more powerful gun will make the enemy die slower
truly amazing post anon
I hope it's bait
>I hope it's bait
I hope you are yourself baiting anon, it's a well known fact that with increased power comes increased expectations, increased game scope and thus increased development time. Bigger teams to fill bigger areas, less cohesion in the team, loss of authorial vision, design by committee.
Anon just skipped some steps in his discourse, but it's a verifiable correlation.
You don't install a bigger AC in the same room, you are also expected to increase the size of the room. >a bigger car consumes more fuel than a small, nimble car >a brighter light needs a lampshade >a more powerful speaker will have more noticeable parasite noise >more people in the party will make the fights slower < that's a fact >a more powerful gun that uses more ammo is a waste if the enemies already die in one hit
Well then you bump into the developers b***hing that they have to develop first for the 720p side of the system, since your game won't get past quality-control if it can't run handheld. We're already at this point with Switch, big developers avoid it like the plague since they can't brute-force performance and 720p is the intended baseline, not 1080p.
>NES to SNES >N64 to GCN >Wii to Wii U >GB to GBA >DS to 3DS
It's going to be Switch "2"
BTW, hybrid is a form factor, not a gimmick. Switch's gimmick is HD rumble
Switch doesn't have a prominent gimmick
You could point to the IR sensor but it's almost an afterthought, and has barely ever been used. HD rumble is marketing if we're being honest, Switch's rumble isn't noticeably more advanced than the other two 9th gen consoles
this.
there's literally no point in reinventing anything when you have such a succesful console other businesses are taking "influence" from.
just slap some more powerful chips in that shit and make it backwards compatible with the older carts and jobs done.
>BTW, hybrid is a form factor, not a gimmick. Switch's gimmick is HD rumble
Whatever you want to call it, they're still going to roll with some new innovation for Switch 2. Nintendo prides themselves in coming up with something new and eye opening every console release.
Likely a direct successor to the Switch. All the acquisitions they have made lately tells me they could really push the console power forward hard this time too.
Yeah after the huge success of the switch and that it's still going unlike how the Wii died out by now, they need to do a Switch 2 with more power and features.
Easy sailing for the next generation for them
Nintendo will never make another home console that is not some variation of the switch simply because it’s too great of an idea for them to ever change it.
>underestimating the weirdness of Japanese developers >of NINTENDO
Never doubt their autism. More consoles in the same vein as the Switch is the right way to go. Can't really see how this is a "dark age" when the Switch itself has been great.
>I just wish nintendo would make powerful consoles again
I don't really see what anyone at all would gain from that. If you want a big honkin box you plug into your tv that gives you the prettiest grafics, you already have those options with PC and the other consoles. As long as it's powerful enough that third parties don't have to break their backs to get games working on it there isn't much of a problem if it's a bit behind in horsepower. The moronic amount of sales the switch and nintendo's handhelds in general get make it pretty clear that people value the form factor a lot more than raw graphical fidelity.
I also think it's clear that tablet sized consoles/PCs are essentially just becoming the new handhelds ever since smartphones beat them out of their old niche, and I doubt the trend is going to run out of steam anytime soon.
If you want a simple powerful console without gimmicks you have two identical alternatives. The only reason to play Nintendo is because of gimmicky differentiators.
>I just wish nintendo would make powerful consoles again
I don't really see what anyone at all would gain from that. If you want a big honkin box you plug into your tv that gives you the prettiest grafics, you already have those options with PC and the other consoles. As long as it's powerful enough that third parties don't have to break their backs to get games working on it there isn't much of a problem if it's a bit behind in horsepower. The moronic amount of sales the switch and nintendo's handhelds in general get make it pretty clear that people value the form factor a lot more than raw graphical fidelity.
I also think it's clear that tablet sized consoles/PCs are essentially just becoming the new handhelds ever since smartphones beat them out of their old niche, and I doubt the trend is going to run out of steam anytime soon.
Nintendos identity is their first party exclusives not fricking wiggle waggle. Better computational power means they could try even crazier shit, other companies like xbox and sony are content to just make the same market tested crap forever.
nintendo's first-party exclusives are part and parcel with their per-generational gimmick, they were all about the touchscreen on the wii u and there was a wii pointer or motion control on frickin' errythang they did for the wii, even gamecube ports like twilight princess
whatever it is it will sell like hotcakes because they've engineered an army of manchildren who will spend their parent's inheritance on anything nintendo shits out
There's the possibility of them doing a Super Switch with a 1080p screen and a small/medium bump in power in the unit itself, but using external GPU tech in the dock for a larger bump in power when connected to 4k TVs.
>e-gpus
I mean it the logical upgrade, but ninty is going to lose MILLIONS on that. Every console on a loss. Now youre making a machine with 2 DIFFERENT CHIPS
>They can't do a switch 2. The Steam Deck would obliterate them if they try to do that.
the steam deck has halfassed games
switch has games made specifically for it and its controls
you PCBlack folk think high frame rate and ultra graphics means its good when you just take the sovl out of gaming like a fricking moron
By what metric? Steam Deck will be a few years old by the time a Switch 2 would be out so they'd have about the same power. But that's also the least important quality. The Steam Deck isn't a mass market device and Valve doesn't want to scale it up to such. Furthermore, the point of the Switch was that the docking and undocking is seamless. That's a trick that would require software support from the games and from the operating system, neither of which is ready and will likely never happen. Try hot-plugging your Steam Deck (you do have a Steam Deck, right?), it works terribly.
>They can't do a switch 2. The Steam Deck would obliterate them if they try to do that.
the steam deck has halfassed games
switch has games made specifically for it and its controls
you PCBlack folk think high frame rate and ultra graphics means its good when you just take the sovl out of gaming like a fricking moron
I don't want to argue about it.
I just don't think Nintendo would go that route. They would have to compete with valve on the chips. There would be competition between owning a handheld that can run hundreds of games out of the box vs a handheld that has a ecosystem.
It would be a mistake.
Nintendo doesn't like competition. They've always innovated to not end up like PS5 and Xbox which are stagnant linear upgrades.
A switch 2 would not make sense.
I expect Nintendo to create something unique for next gen. Don't want another GameCube/ wiiu situation.
>I expect Nintendo to create something unique for next gen. Don't want another GameCube/ wiiu situation.
they've hit the nail on the head with a trifecta of normal controller gaming, Wii nunchuck infrared remotes doubling as controllers, and a portable/dockable system
why would they throw away this potential just because they have a competitor in the space now?
I don't have any real stake in this so I won't argue farther other than I have my Steam Deck and my brother having his switch OLED, and seeing those chink devices ramping up. It's going to be a hell of a saturated market competing for chips during a chip shortage.
Do people not know how few Steam Decks are being manufactured. If they used the same chip who do you think would have priority? The company whose last unit sold 100+ million units or a device that won't outsell the vita.
>and seeing those chink devices ramping up. It's going to be a hell of a saturated market competing for chips during a chip shortage.
tiny chink companies are nowhere near nintendo when it comes to coming to one of these companies and saying give me X amount of chips. Shit wasn't there a story about microsoft doing that exact same thing to sony? That's a case where it's 2 huge corporations.
can they just make a dedicated console version please? There's some games I want to play on the switch but portability holds zero value to me and I don't want to be paying for it or for it to be holding back performance
Dual screen that slides into another screen that allows superimposed gameplay mechanics like a pocket AR/VR kinda thing, localized within the games itself.
I just hope they keep card format for physical games, idc if it makes them more expensive to produce, not even about backwards compatibility, theres just no way am I collecting fricking disks nowadays
They really just need to make a more powerfull switch that runs older games better/higher res so people will want to upgrade. But they'll frick it up somehow.
Built-in onahole receptacle.
Foldable screen
would be cool
The nintendo 4old?
It will be a re-release of the N64
a wii phone
That's just iPhone, Nintendo is pretty tight with Apple.
BEHOLD
OMG A HECKIN NINTENDO SEAL OF QUALITY PRODUCT TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Sony copies it four months later with the Sony Poove
Does it have warioware
It will be the exact same form factor as the switch just with more powerful hardware probably base xbox1 tier and MAYBE base ps4 tier.
After a runaway success? They’ll go greedy like every company with a winning gen, and release the New Neo Nintendo Switch U. It’ll have barely any marketing and loses third parties after the first year on the maket.
they return to the DS formfactor, and comes with a hdmi stick to stream to and retractable top screen for when you want to play on a TV.
This except the top screen still folds like a DS and you can fold it all the way to the back for TV mode.
And a joycon like controller that attaches to smartphones for the multiplayer issue the wiiu had
So the switch but with the two screen gimmick of the ds/wii u? I’m game, that sounds perfect.
there wont be gimmicks because nintendo stopped making consoles
Please don’t tell me this anon, I’ve invested in their company last year and am already fricked by the economy.
Everyone ITT who wants dual screens to return is an pedo who just wants Etrian Odyssey back.
Vr probably or ar
Just stop with the additional gimmicks, the functionality of the switch is great, just put the charger on the top, at least double the battery life and graphics of the current generation, not previous.
>graphics
The switch has the perfect level of power. More power means longer dev time, means less games released.
>The switch has the perfect level of power.
ahh yes, i too enjoyed the sub-20 fps towns in breath of the wild
i too enjoy parroting things from BOTW's release and ignoring performance patches released after
*uploads another video to crowbcat*
You might be an actual moron if you seriously believe this bullshit.
>more power
>more dev time
yeah ok
>a more powerful AC takes longer to cool a room
>a more powerful car that goes faster than most takes longer to get to the destination
>a more powerful light will make the room dimmer
>amore powerful speaker will make the sound quieter
>a more powerful party composition will make the fight slower
>a more powerful gun will make the enemy die slower
truly amazing post anon
I hope it's bait
>I hope it's bait
I hope you are yourself baiting anon, it's a well known fact that with increased power comes increased expectations, increased game scope and thus increased development time. Bigger teams to fill bigger areas, less cohesion in the team, loss of authorial vision, design by committee.
Anon just skipped some steps in his discourse, but it's a verifiable correlation.
You don't install a bigger AC in the same room, you are also expected to increase the size of the room.
>a bigger car consumes more fuel than a small, nimble car
>a brighter light needs a lampshade
>a more powerful speaker will have more noticeable parasite noise
>more people in the party will make the fights slower < that's a fact
>a more powerful gun that uses more ammo is a waste if the enemies already die in one hit
just cap the portable resolution at 720p and a more power it's just upsides
Well then you bump into the developers b***hing that they have to develop first for the 720p side of the system, since your game won't get past quality-control if it can't run handheld. We're already at this point with Switch, big developers avoid it like the plague since they can't brute-force performance and 720p is the intended baseline, not 1080p.
but on the other side smaller devs don't have to make hd textures and you have 1080p docked for for the aa and aaa devs
It's an approach that's working really well, Switch is a first-party Nintendo machine and indie paradise.
>NES to SNES
>N64 to GCN
>Wii to Wii U
>GB to GBA
>DS to 3DS
It's going to be Switch "2"
BTW, hybrid is a form factor, not a gimmick. Switch's gimmick is HD rumble
>HD rumble
literally nothing.
Switch doesn't have a prominent gimmick
You could point to the IR sensor but it's almost an afterthought, and has barely ever been used. HD rumble is marketing if we're being honest, Switch's rumble isn't noticeably more advanced than the other two 9th gen consoles
this.
there's literally no point in reinventing anything when you have such a succesful console other businesses are taking "influence" from.
just slap some more powerful chips in that shit and make it backwards compatible with the older carts and jobs done.
>BTW, hybrid is a form factor, not a gimmick. Switch's gimmick is HD rumble
Whatever you want to call it, they're still going to roll with some new innovation for Switch 2. Nintendo prides themselves in coming up with something new and eye opening every console release.
the 3dswitch
Likely a direct successor to the Switch. All the acquisitions they have made lately tells me they could really push the console power forward hard this time too.
Yeah after the huge success of the switch and that it's still going unlike how the Wii died out by now, they need to do a Switch 2 with more power and features.
Easy sailing for the next generation for them
Nintendo will never make another home console that is not some variation of the switch simply because it’s too great of an idea for them to ever change it.
Welcome to the dark age.
>underestimating the weirdness of Japanese developers
>of NINTENDO
Never doubt their autism. More consoles in the same vein as the Switch is the right way to go. Can't really see how this is a "dark age" when the Switch itself has been great.
Most likely a Switch 2 with similar specs to the Deck.
Dildo attachment
Nintendo will play it extremely safe until the Switch-like concept starts to decline. It's Switch++ from here on out, no new gimmicks
the new gimmick will be..
..a modern digital storefront that doesn't throw away your purchase history each gen
Keep dreaming
Its always a new gimmick.
I just wish nintendo would make powerful consoles again but the wii ensured that will never happen.
>I just wish nintendo would make powerful consoles again
I don't really see what anyone at all would gain from that. If you want a big honkin box you plug into your tv that gives you the prettiest grafics, you already have those options with PC and the other consoles. As long as it's powerful enough that third parties don't have to break their backs to get games working on it there isn't much of a problem if it's a bit behind in horsepower. The moronic amount of sales the switch and nintendo's handhelds in general get make it pretty clear that people value the form factor a lot more than raw graphical fidelity.
I also think it's clear that tablet sized consoles/PCs are essentially just becoming the new handhelds ever since smartphones beat them out of their old niche, and I doubt the trend is going to run out of steam anytime soon.
If you want a simple powerful console without gimmicks you have two identical alternatives. The only reason to play Nintendo is because of gimmicky differentiators.
Nintendos identity is their first party exclusives not fricking wiggle waggle. Better computational power means they could try even crazier shit, other companies like xbox and sony are content to just make the same market tested crap forever.
nintendo's first-party exclusives are part and parcel with their per-generational gimmick, they were all about the touchscreen on the wii u and there was a wii pointer or motion control on frickin' errythang they did for the wii, even gamecube ports like twilight princess
Then emulate.
Iwata is dead though so maybe we'll just get a straight power upgrade this time.
It's just going to be the Switch 2.
It's just going to be the Switch 2
The controller is a life size doll of femboy Ink with his bare add expose and you control the console by thrusting your dick in his gaping anus.
whatever it is it will sell like hotcakes because they've engineered an army of manchildren who will spend their parent's inheritance on anything nintendo shits out
Hopefully the next gimmick is controllers that last more than a year without breaking
There's the possibility of them doing a Super Switch with a 1080p screen and a small/medium bump in power in the unit itself, but using external GPU tech in the dock for a larger bump in power when connected to 4k TVs.
>e-gpus
I mean it the logical upgrade, but ninty is going to lose MILLIONS on that. Every console on a loss. Now youre making a machine with 2 DIFFERENT CHIPS
The logical upgrade is just using a better SoC and keep the same form factor.
Well, they could offer two versions, handheld only and a bundle with the dock included, then make the dock available separately.
always on internet and seamless gameplay between portable and home use
Modular console where they can just sell you upgraded parts forever.
Sliding, moving parts, it's if they didn't learn anything from the 3DS.
whatever it is, it will use a different storage method so they can sell you the same games again
i cant wait to buy paper mario for the 6th time
Yeah this is why I sold my Switch
Same games over and over rehashed since GC
Good graphics.
Nintendo is the only company left still making games with balls not rehashing the same bullshit game we've seen 10000 different times
anon i think you are in the wrong timeline
I hope it is just like the Switch, but more powerful.
It has to be something unique.
They can't do a switch 2. The Steam Deck would obliterate them if they try to do that.
>They can't do a switch 2. The Steam Deck would obliterate them if they try to do that.
the steam deck has halfassed games
switch has games made specifically for it and its controls
you PCBlack folk think high frame rate and ultra graphics means its good when you just take the sovl out of gaming like a fricking moron
By what metric? Steam Deck will be a few years old by the time a Switch 2 would be out so they'd have about the same power. But that's also the least important quality. The Steam Deck isn't a mass market device and Valve doesn't want to scale it up to such. Furthermore, the point of the Switch was that the docking and undocking is seamless. That's a trick that would require software support from the games and from the operating system, neither of which is ready and will likely never happen. Try hot-plugging your Steam Deck (you do have a Steam Deck, right?), it works terribly.
I don't want to argue about it.
I just don't think Nintendo would go that route. They would have to compete with valve on the chips. There would be competition between owning a handheld that can run hundreds of games out of the box vs a handheld that has a ecosystem.
It would be a mistake.
Nintendo doesn't like competition. They've always innovated to not end up like PS5 and Xbox which are stagnant linear upgrades.
A switch 2 would not make sense.
I expect Nintendo to create something unique for next gen. Don't want another GameCube/ wiiu situation.
>I expect Nintendo to create something unique for next gen. Don't want another GameCube/ wiiu situation.
they've hit the nail on the head with a trifecta of normal controller gaming, Wii nunchuck infrared remotes doubling as controllers, and a portable/dockable system
why would they throw away this potential just because they have a competitor in the space now?
I just don't see it. I don't see how they do it.
I don't have any real stake in this so I won't argue farther other than I have my Steam Deck and my brother having his switch OLED, and seeing those chink devices ramping up. It's going to be a hell of a saturated market competing for chips during a chip shortage.
>Mfw switch is 5 years old now
Jesus Christ time flies.
Do people not know how few Steam Decks are being manufactured. If they used the same chip who do you think would have priority? The company whose last unit sold 100+ million units or a device that won't outsell the vita.
Surprised you're getting so defensive over this.
>i foresee the nvidia SoC nintendo approach competing furiously with the AMD SoC valve approach
>and seeing those chink devices ramping up. It's going to be a hell of a saturated market competing for chips during a chip shortage.
tiny chink companies are nowhere near nintendo when it comes to coming to one of these companies and saying give me X amount of chips. Shit wasn't there a story about microsoft doing that exact same thing to sony? That's a case where it's 2 huge corporations.
can they just make a dedicated console version please? There's some games I want to play on the switch but portability holds zero value to me and I don't want to be paying for it or for it to be holding back performance
5g handheld streaming device.
Eye tracking.
They experimented with it with the 3DS
they don't need to use visible light.
The Eye is faster than the hand.
vr calling it now
THE SPINNER
The gimmick will be that there is no (hardware) gimmick
The software gimmick is DLSS support
This seems obvious to me. XB3 already has temporally reconstructed upscaling.
Dual screen that slides into another screen that allows superimposed gameplay mechanics like a pocket AR/VR kinda thing, localized within the games itself.
Call it DS Fusion.
Whatever it takes to bring back Etrian Odyssey
I just hope they keep card format for physical games, idc if it makes them more expensive to produce, not even about backwards compatibility, theres just no way am I collecting fricking disks nowadays
They really just need to make a more powerfull switch that runs older games better/higher res so people will want to upgrade. But they'll frick it up somehow.
They need to stop being moronic and just call it switch 2
All they need to do is iterate on the joycon design and beef up the internals. Maybe add some interesting AR tech.
Build in gun that shoots your kid
I'd like to see them at least offer "Pro" joy cons with proper ergonomics somewhat like the HORI Split Pad, even if they're sold separately.