Manual Driving requires some muscle memory, because if you don't know what the frick you are doing the car will shut down every time you stop until the battery runs out, it is very simple but a google search will not help you magically move the car within a few minutes
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Black person actually thinks he’s a specialist cause he can drive manual.
All things start with reading how to actually operate the thing regardless of what it is.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>All things start with reading
anon... many many people have learned to drive and never read anything about it. many of them never have never read anything at all.
7 months ago
Anonymous
But they’re taught it by something or someone. Unless you just guess worked it yourself which is worse then learning it properly.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I learned from the fast and the furious
7 months ago
Anonymous
>reading
how did you manage to take that so literally are you fricking stupid? this is bait
7 months ago
Anonymous
I cannot think of a non-literal meaning of "reading" in this context, anon. Help me out here.
7 months ago
Anonymous
“learning how to from a source”
7 months ago
Anonymous
fine, but I don't think anyone uses it that way. No one says "I read about it on youtube" or whatever
the best security i've ever heard of was tested on real carjacking thieves. first of all don't own something fricking gay like a kia that has an exploitable remote start, second step is to throw a kill switch on the ignition wiring and hide it under the dash. in all the other tests they were able to steal the cars, but the kill switch test fooled them.
that's why you hide it, you wouldn't expect a car to have a modification like that. the theory is they're not going to spend more than a few minutes trying to steal the car so make the problem just difficult enough for a stranger to solve and that might do the trick.
you can also just take all your tires off for the real ghetto car protection. that also makes it mostly untowable.
Hiding the switch is one thing but you'll also need the wiring to look stock, which can be done, but if it's noticeable it's going to delay them for a few seconds at best
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'm linking the video i watched because my memory was wrong. they put a kill switch on the fuel pump, which immediately made the thieves suspect the car was out of gas. it seemed like a clever theft deterrent.
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the switch itself is definitely noticeable but they were so concerned in trying to pull this off quickly they didn't even notice it kek
you could definitely hide the switch in the engine compartment instead
it'd be even funnier to take it to the highest level and put kill switches on the most annoying things to have broken in a car just so if anyone steals it they think your shit is so broken it's completely worthless. killswitch the radio, just the left headlight, all the cabin lights, the AC plug, and VSS so it hardshifts, etc.
Cars all being built for right foot braking by companies that may not even have a single clutch pedal in their model lineup is some aggressively stupid shit and it says a lot about society that we continue to do this for some nebulous convention when it directly increases the likelihood of accidents from longer braking reaction times and the almost infinitely higher chances of morons hitting the gas instead of the brake. I'm pretty sure left foot braking would even outright improve traffic flow because people wouldn't jump on and off the gas so much covering the brake or overcompensate for the time lag as much.
NTA but I would like an explanation for this, I assumed it was because 1) manual in the past, and 2) you don't actually want people two-footing becasue they can do both at once or something like that. I feel like the kind of person who hit gas "accidentally" in a dangerous situation is the kind of person who would stomp both
7 months ago
Anonymous
People tend to be right-foot dominant and you want better motor control over your acceleration/deceleration, plus you shouldn't (generally) be doing both at once so having both on one foot tends to be better. Of course, moronic people who add aftermarket floor mats, or senile people who lose track of their foot and panic (and there have been a few stock mats with those problems but it's not super common) will still have issues.
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
Imagine optimizing the fun out of driving
Honestly being able to swap between manual and auto would be nice, but most vehicles don't have that.
I've heard bullshit reasons and they're all stupid. It's entirely just because that's how a meaningful proportion of cars actually had to be driven so people getting confused between the clutch and brake was a reasonable concern, and while we can do dumb shit like Tesla turn signals or wacky shifters moving the pedals absolutely must not be done. Really it's just some cars that move the brake from the neutral middle to aggressively to the right to force right foot only that make me go "what the frick". Basically the same kind of shit as the government regulated motorcycle shift pattern that gets reversed and/or replaced with a separate neutral lockout on 90% of race bikes but nobody cares to overturn the ancient logic for.
NTA but I would like an explanation for this, I assumed it was because 1) manual in the past, and 2) you don't actually want people two-footing becasue they can do both at once or something like that. I feel like the kind of person who hit gas "accidentally" in a dangerous situation is the kind of person who would stomp both
People pressing both is really not that bad, like it gets boomer memed on with "muh brake wear" like that's worth giving a shit about compared to an extra quarter second added to your stopping time in an emergency. There's also the excuse about dragging brakes all the time but if that was such an issue then people would be dragging clutches all the time.
this shit is dystopic. any eurogay defending multi-roundabouts has stockholm syndrome.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think I've ever seen a multi roundabout anywhere. Like, ever. And it would probably be a fricking nightmare. It's already bad enough with regular ones and homosexuals not fricking signaling that they're exiting, I fricking hate that shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
why would it matter if they're exiting? There's no law nor expectation for people to signal on entry or exit to a roundabout, anon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It is actually expected in my country. And it's really fricking annoying because you never know if you can enter it or not until the last fricking moment which could be avoided if homosexuals actually signaled their intent to exit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
how congested are your roundabouts, and are you using single lane roads or something?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>There's no law nor expectation for people to signal on entry or exit to a roundabout, anon
I don't think any single country hasn't embedded in the law that you don't need to put the signals when going to turn, in my country you literally cannot go from the inside lane to the exit on a roundabout since that's illegal, no fricking way it's allowed to not put the turn signals when exiting.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You signal your intent when you're altering the flow of traffic (merging, exiting the highway, switching lanes, etc). For a roundabout, you aren't altering the flow unless you're switching lanes, and the time at which your signals would be active in most cases wouldn't give any realistic forewarning. Me exiting a roundabout or continuing wouldn't functionally change anything about how the person in front and behind me would interface with it.
Obvious exception is in the case of a place where it's psuedogridlocked/congested.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Me exiting a roundabout or continuing wouldn't functionally change anything about how the person in front and behind me would interface with it.
It would absolutely change it for the driver currently waiting to see if you're exiting the roundabout so they can engage on it themselves.
7 months ago
Anonymous
if my speed doesn't deviate and there's an ingress and egress lane, it really shouldn't, no. You can tell their intent by their speed and approach vector/tire angling.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Actually you're supposed to stay on the egress line if you're just passing through the roundabout without turning
I guess you drive somewhere where people are very polite drivers. I drive in an average area and without turn signals it's not advisable to engage in a busy roundabout. I'd even argue it's risky until the other driver actually starts exiting because you never know, they might've had a brain fart
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's possible, noone around here in either single or double lane roundabouts has ever used a signal, nor would I expect it, nor do I feel a need for it. But who knows, like you said, maybe the drivers around you are bad at using it or something.
>You can tell their intent by their speed and approach vector/tire angling.
No, you can't that's the point, there's a frickton of people that look like they're going to get out just to make a quick turn and continue inside.
Plus, here's it's usually advised that if you're going to continue inside on an small circle one you put the turn lights towards the inside.
yes you can, dumbass? look at the picture above.
>trusting other drivers to notice things
Hope you ticked the organ donor box
Fortunately for me you'd be hard-pressed to impact someone in a roundabout given the design, and if you happened to, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to do any lasting damage to the vehicle occupant.
7 months ago
Anonymous
And then there's the inattentive pedestrians who will walk out in front of you, and then you'll hit the brakes and block the roundabout, well not you, you'll run them over just like everyone who talks about pedestrians on the internet. Oddly enough I've never seen someone completely disregard pedestrians like that irl
7 months ago
Anonymous
Think in my area there has been like 1 pedestrian hit at a roundabout over 3~ years or so, and it was during the winter so it was more an icy slide issue. Like 6 people gunning it and launching off the center island into a Walgreens Stone sign, though, funnily enough.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Duel lane roundabouts can eat a dick though.
7 months ago
Anonymous
d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dual* is what i meant
7 months ago
Anonymous
>You can tell their intent by their speed and approach vector/tire angling.
No, you can't that's the point, there's a frickton of people that look like they're going to get out just to make a quick turn and continue inside.
Plus, here's it's usually advised that if you're going to continue inside on an small circle one you put the turn lights towards the inside.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not the anon, but here you have to yield to anyone currently in the roundabout regardless of whether they're turning off. My driving instructor still made a big deal about signalling out of roundabouts even though almost nobody does it, though.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'll tell you who it does affect, the guy entering from your exit, who's waiting for nothing because you're indicating that you intend to keep going
7 months ago
Anonymous
that'd be pretty impressive considering I'd've already exited 1/6th of the circle before him, and by the fact that my car wasn't turned towards the interior he'd have to be moronic to think otherwise.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Wow a whole 1/6, you fricking moron.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>trusting other drivers to notice things
Hope you ticked the organ donor box
7 months ago
Anonymous
While I agree that this looks moronic, as an American I've always been told we needed roundabouts in our cities but never got them. And no, Americans are not too stupid for it, it just never got adopted like the metric system for whatever reason. Same general reason AC still isn't kind of a thing in Britain.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I blame stubborn boomers for the lack of metric. I would switch just to make things easier for everyone. I got taught both measurement systems at the same time so I keep jumping between the terms interchangably and I feel fricking moronic whenever I have to measure something because of it. >muh globalism
Sometimes I wish some shit really was just globally the same.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Imperial needs to be phased out and replaced with metric. It'll probably take 100+ years to do completely but we should start now.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>. It'll probably take 100+ years
brits, aussies and canadians will never admit it, but they still use feet and miles despite having gone metric long ago.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>aussies and canadians will never admit i
I admit it freely, it's useful having more units. Millimetre to centimetre to inch to foot to meter, millilitre to teaspoon to tablespoon to cup to liter to gallon, gram to ounce to pound to kilogram.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sharing a border with America and living with boomers is why I will have schizophrenia. I never even know what anyone over the age of 50 means when they say mpg because Canada used British gallons which are different from American gallons. The dumbest shit in the world is that grocery stores will advertise a price per/lb because it's a smaller number then the store packaging will be in kilograms so I can't even find it, fricking bullshit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
In all situations I prefer metric, but ESPECIALLY liquid measurement, speeds, and distance
the only imperial units I ever use with any regularity are feet, inches, and lbs and that's often because boomers only know those things. Ask a boomer how much a mL is and you just get a confused flouride stare (it's 1cm cubed) and they'll probably refer to it as a fricking thimble of water lol
7 months ago
Anonymous
I've never used imperial in Australia and the only people I've heard say anything in it are boomers.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>it just never got adopted like the metric system for whatever reason
Fricking moron. Metric is used everywhere in the US.
7 months ago
Anonymous
what the frick is this
roundabouts alone are kinda based but this shit
holy frick
just gimme a 4-way stop at that point
7 months ago
Anonymous
Swindon, UK's 6/7 circle roundabout.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yo dog, we heard u like driving in circles so we put a roundabout in your roundabout in your roundabout.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Anyone who can't figure this out is totally lacking in critical thinking skills
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. We just have more space in America so we do better things. Ever heard of a cloverleaf?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Are you admitting that you can't figure it out?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Are you admitting your city planning sucks? In my country, The United States of America (USA) I would be driving on a freeway around the city going 80+ mph in my manual and never slowing down until an exit 1 minute from my destination, then parking in a massive parking lot full of space. Sorry you have to deal with the cramped spaces you were given. Don't be mad, be better.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>just one more lane bro
7 months ago
Anonymous
Can I figure it out? Yeah. Do I trust random strangers to figure it out and not frick up me or my car? Hell no.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>things american brain can't comprehend
7 months ago
Anonymous
lel, to be fair I'm sure early on when they were new, if people had no real knowledge of them and whatnot, they might be confused. Real problem is if one person does something incorrect others might see it and go "oh, is that what we need to be doing?" and follow suit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>confused
you mean as confused as driving into the wrong lane
7 months ago
Anonymous
So, I have to ask. There's one entrance road there, and three exits. All of the roads are one-way streets, and the divider between lanes on each road ends within a hundred feet. What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection?
7 months ago
Anonymous
round abouts deter the high speed T-bones that kill people.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lame. This is the reason why everything is becoming worse, fricking morons can't go ten minutes without finding new ways to kill themselves.
7 months ago
Anonymous
None of those are one-way streets.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you fricking what >cars driving on both sides of the meridian in the same direction >no signal lights or markings
do britbongs just drive wherever and stop and have a cricket game when someone is coming at them head on?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't look like Britain to me; the cars are too long.
7 months ago
Anonymous
well, wherever it is, watch the paths from 0:08 on
unless that driver is fricking up, that's two lanes of traffic going in the same direction and would absolutely be a one-way street in burgerland since holy shit what the frick are you doing if you have traffic driving at each other head-on without any lane markings or signs
7 months ago
Anonymous
>unless that driver is fricking up
He is. Thats the point of the webm.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>cars driving on both sides of the meridian in the same direction
Americans are moronic. The first car went left because they got confused and most drivers followed. You can actually see them coming from the right side before going left. >no signal lights or markings
Yeah.... because it's a roundabout
7 months ago
Anonymous
ahh, frick, it is america, isn't it? i just noticed the dollar general sign and i'm pretty sure that's an only-burger thing. so one guy did frick up and everyone else followed, and the guy who cut late and had to go to the outside was actually in the right and going into the correct outside lane. what a fricking nightmare, i'm not even gonna make excuses there since it looks like the DOT just plunked down a roundabout, replacing a normal 4-way intersection, and expected people who've never driven them before (that one looks so new the grass hasn't even grown back in) to know what's going on when their daily road is suddenly different
even as a burger myself the few roundabouts around here have signs marking which exit leads where, direction of traffic and so on
>unless that driver is fricking up
He is. Thats the point of the webm.
i apologize for my own moronation and that of my fellow countrymen
7 months ago
Anonymous
They're driving on the right until they hit the driving puzzle
7 months ago
Anonymous
>What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection?
Traffic keeps moving instead of starting and stopping every few minutes for lights/stop signs.
Marginally safer since you dont have someone running a light and t-boning someone. You could still cause an accident by being a stupid butthole but it would be lower impact.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Marginally safer
Depends on how stupidly they designed it
The town I grew up in used to have a fricking 3-lane rotary connecting to the ramps to the highway and that shit was a deathtrap, they replaced it with a straight road and traffic lights sometime after I moved out and it generally seems like less of a pain in the ass.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, but I meant in more general terms. Anyone can frick anything up if they try hard enough.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection
Roundabout accidents usually are less mortal than intersection accidents, apart from them being less frequent to begin with.
Most accidents there are usually people entering the roundabout at an alarming high speed without looking and driving right at a car that was already inside.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Roundabout accidents usually are less mortal than intersection accidents
That makes sense. Nobody's going to come speeding through a roundabout at 110. Even if you give no fricks about road rules + intend to just go through the middle you're still going to want to slow down before hitting the giant bump in the center so you don't get launched.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Nobody's going to come speeding through a roundabout at 110.
This homie doesn't dorifto
7 months ago
Anonymous
I loved seeing this webm get posted in Cyberpunk threads when they showed that Polish devs added a roundabout in Night City.
7 months ago
Anonymous
this image irritates me greatly but the only defense I will make of it is that when you see multiple other drivers going a certain way, even if you think it's wrong it's not unreasonable to think "maybe they know something I don't know" if it's an unfamiliar area
7 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus christ Europe get your shit together
7 months ago
Anonymous
This just screams poor city planning cope. Probably an old timey crossroad that needed to be updated and there was no way to trim down the number of entrances. Little town to big city things.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Never seen anything more obtuse. I hated driving in Italy due to several hars to parse roads. One spot had 3 roundabouts in a row of different sizes and lengths. Thankfully my country is pretty tame on these sorts of constructs.
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's just a 5 roundabout minigame you idiots
you pass one, you go to the next
7 months ago
Anonymous
it actually isn't, by the fact that you go to the interior bit in some cases as opposed to following the external (which is far slower) the whole time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>ackshually a bus isn't a public transport where you sit down and reach your destination, because you can also stand up
shut the frick up nerd
7 months ago
Anonymous
what are you even trying to say?
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's how you sound like moron
turning a truth into the wrong answer because an alternative exists
only autists with an ago do that
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's not a truth though, considering the point of the design (and why it has interior lanes) is to cut through, having someone or the entire flow of traffic stick to the outside is moronic and obstructionist.
7 months ago
Anonymous
who the frick said they had to keep to the outside???
they need to yield even if they go in the middle, making it a 5 point roundabout
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Wheels within wheels
Blessed
7 months ago
Anonymous
My city is getting California's first TURBO roundabout. It's not even done yet and these morons use the regular roundabout as a stop sign. This turbo shit is going to be awful.
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's not difficult to figure out but anxiety might step in the first time you approach one
the logic laid out here means you can just drive around in one of these forever like they did in national lampoon
i get anxious approaching them because they are rare in ohio and you don't know if you're sharing it with one of those people. this place is full of blue collar rednecks who only know stop and go.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Look kids! Big ben... Parliament...
Looking back my family was basically the griswold's, complete with Cousin Eddie.
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's great for traffic if the drivers have the mental capacity to understand how it works
7 months ago
Anonymous
>X is great if [other drivers] have the mental capacity
And here is the fatal flaw in your argument. Everyone on the road is a moron. No exceptions.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why are some of the lane lines wiggly?
7 months ago
Anonymous
I think that indicates a pedestrian crossing
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why are some of the lane lines wiggly?
yeah it's so you slow down because there's a pedestrian crossing coming up
7 months ago
Anonymous
pls respond
7 months ago
Anonymous
Looks exactly like those intersections in India or China where everyone just does whatever the frick they want.
7 months ago
Anonymous
well that's exactly what it is, except with the british cultural tradition of queuing in a line as well
7 months ago
Anonymous
I used to live near whatever the frick this is
The upper left bit went about as well as you'd expect
7 months ago
Anonymous
spooky
7 months ago
Anonymous
Wasn't the meme roundabout actually extremely safe due to how intimidating it looks, so it naturally throws off the usual morons and puts them on the defensive?
7 months ago
Anonymous
is this AI generated? Why the flying frick would you put roundabouts in your stops in your roundabout? That's a fricking enormous hazard and has no reason to exist
Because we're wealthy enough to have such luxuries as automatic shifters, power windows, air conditioning, airbags, power brakes, etc. on even the low end cars.
>lane assist
i turn that off. thats made for women that insist on driving a yukon but think its a fiat. >auto emergency braking
never experienced it >auto high beams
literally nothing wrong with them >proximity warnings
depends on the type. mostly fine. >reversing cameras
again, literally nothing wrong with them.
>auto high beams
It's fine if you don't mind blinding other drivers >reversing cameras
It's fine if you don't rely on them exclusively, which way too many people do.
All this stuff enables dumbasses doing dumbass things
7 months ago
Anonymous
>It's fine if you don't mind blinding other drivers
you mustve only dealt with the early iterations. on my car they turn off if theres a street light 100 yards ahead of me. as soon as it catches a whiff of a light its off before i would ever be able to react to turning it off. >It's fine if you don't rely on them exclusively
im sure these people do exist, but ive never seen them. ive seen more people forget they even have cameras and continue just looking back or using mirrors. hard to break habits.
7 months ago
Anonymous
From what I've heard, high beams tend to exceed the recognition distance of the cameras, but take it with a grain of salt
Are you admitting your city planning sucks? In my country, The United States of America (USA) I would be driving on a freeway around the city going 80+ mph in my manual and never slowing down until an exit 1 minute from my destination, then parking in a massive parking lot full of space. Sorry you have to deal with the cramped spaces you were given. Don't be mad, be better.
My city planning? I don't live in London or wherever that thing is, I'm just not certifiably moronic.
Can you actually not figure it out?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Can you actually not figure it out?
Can you actually not drive 80+ mph around your shithole city?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, but that's got nothing to do with me. My ability to comprehend something more complicated than a 4 way stop has everything to do with me.
You can brag about what other people have done all you want but it doesn't make you look any better.
You haven't even denied it. Lying about your intelligence would be more impressive at this point
7 months ago
Anonymous
i been relying on my reverse camera for 2 years just fine. this is just old man talk >DONT FORGET TO LOOK OUT THE PHYSICAL WINDOWS SONNY, LIKE I DID
7 months ago
Anonymous
Tell that to the women who hit people while backing out of parking spots because they weren't visible on the screen
Reversing cameras are a must with how dogshit visibility is nowadays on new vehicles. Thick fricking beams to hide the roll cages fricking sucks. Thanks Obama.
I know that Euro countries are largely too small to even conceive of a highway, but how the hell do you expect to survive a high speed impact without breaking your neck without airbags?
most car companies dont even make manual transmissions anymore. and if they do offer them, you have to pay extra. automatics have gotten so good, the benefits of driving manual are barely noticeable, outside of high end racing. also autos are moron-resistant, making it much harder to frick your transmission up.
>most car companies dont even make manual transmissions anymore
Wrong. Your probably just american but cars are actually designed for different markets.
You only see autos in america because thats all you lazy fat slobs buy.
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
People choose manuals for a reason.
They're only like $500 difference in price.
when your buying a $20000 new car $500 means nothing.
>why dont americans use manual? >because most companies dont make them >WELL YOU MUST JUST BE AMERICAN
???? yes? that was the question.
Im south african and majority of new car sales here are manuals despite still getting most of the same cars released in america.
There are auto and manual versions for the majority of cars released.
I dont know where you guys are getting the idea that only autos are being sold.
Even budget compact cars all have auto versions these days.
7 months ago
Anonymous
people chose them in the past because early automatics were generally inferior in terms of transmission and gas efficiency, and you could manually do better/control RPMs. For things like racing and whatnot the highest end drivers would still benefit from manuals, but modern automatics are leagues better and perform better than 99.9% of drivers, so no, there's no real reason. It's not 20-30 years ago, anon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The advantage of manual is the feel.
Im no poofta.
>when your buying a $20000 new car $500 means nothing.
Thats a 2.5% increase before interest. Spending money frivolously for no benefit is moronic irrespective of the actual amount.
Its an investment in comfort
7 months ago
Anonymous
>People choose manuals for a reason.
Because they're stupid.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>when your buying a $20000 new car $500 means nothing.
Thats a 2.5% increase before interest. Spending money frivolously for no benefit is moronic irrespective of the actual amount.
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
Imagine optimizing the fun out of driving
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not pretending I'm in Initial D while I'm going down the road for groceries
7 months ago
Anonymous
There is nothing fun about modern driving, I wish I didn't have to do this shit. Younger people don't drive as much as previous generations since Lyft and Uber are just better in most instances so the average person on the road is some old frick in his sixties that can barely see anything and think they have the right of way in every scenario. Half of the time it feels like I'm fighting for my life whenever I go run errands. Anyone who thinks driving is fun probably lives in the middle of buttfrick nowhere where they don't have to deal with traffic.
automatics have gotten so good that the possibility of fricking up your transmission through user error is less appealing than the very slim efficiency benefits assuming perfect use. the past where an automatic was an inefficient crutch isn't the case anymore.
I don't know what you're talking about. Im an american and my first three cars were manual transmission.
I've taught multiple people how to drive one in a parkinglot in about 20 minutes.
Its really not hard at all outside of some tricky stuff for first timers, like starting from a stop on a hill.
in america, manual drive cars are for tradition-obsessed morons (which are most cargays) that need to validate themselves by showing they can do an obsolete task that has been rendered obsolete by superior technology so it makes sense they're a perfect fit for thirdies too
it's gonna be so funny when actual self-driving cars cause the biggest luddite seethe since AI
the computer can do it just fine currently, the problem is bitter homosexual old people/morons that won't "gib up muh freedumbs" when self-driving cars become more available. japan is building roads specifically for self-drive only because they know it's going to be impossible to get boomers to stop driving their manual shitmobiles
there's some auto taxi services that work completely fine in some US cities like phoenix but it probably won't be widespread as long as tech-fearing gays exist
>japan is building roads specifically for self-drive only because they know it's going to be impossible to get boomers to stop driving their manual shitmobiles
I think this is the way to go. Prove that it works and people are gonna see the benefits and switch. try to force it and people will frick up the system out of spite and b***h about every little flaw.
You can't blame people for not wanting to completely trust themselves to a machine when a very large part of learning to drive is being hammered with the fact that cars are dangerous and driving requires you to focus.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I can blame a lot of zoomers for being wishy-washy people who refuse to put effort into shit and just live their lives in fear, relying on other people to shuttle them around since they're horrified of responsibility or challenge.
Lotta my younger coworkers don't drive, or their GFs don't, and it's embarassing.
7 months ago
Anonymous
To me it's an inevitability of the soccer mom phenomena. Your parents probably learned to drive because they were tired of walking everywhere, kids today just learned to be terrified of driving from riding with a distracted woman for hours every day.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yea, definitely a bit of truth to that.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>LIFE SHOULD BE HARD FOR KIDS BECAUSE IT WAS HARD FOR ME
I'm sorry you're bitter about not getting to grow up in a world with a lot of luxuries and conveniences that are now an everyday thing and the factually shit things you had to tolerate are now being phased out. Keep holding onto your shit traditions out of spite, I'll keep stomping on your fingers so everyone has it easier.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Driving isn't hard though, inconveniencing everyone around you because you refuse to face a fear is the issue here.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Driving isn't hard, dealing with other people driving is. There's a reason everyone drives a fricking gigantic car nowadays, nobody trusts anybody and for good reason, the average person on the road is a moron. I would gladly sign a bill that bans human-driven cars just to get those fricking morons off the road.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>There's a reason everyone drives a fricking gigantic car nowadays
Because that is nearly all they make and all they really want to sell to skirt environmental regulations that give lenience for fat pieces of shit on the assumption that weight will go towards utility and not marketing more expensive vehicles to dumb women.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The irony of eurogays crying about all the fancy tech in cars when most if not all of the reasons why cars look the way they do today is due to european regulators and Obongo adopting them.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, unironically
Suffer like G did?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Loser.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'll live to see it happen to you too, mark my words anon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't suffer as a kid nor do I want other people to suffer.
You're a loser.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see a point in driving when I can just have someone else do it for me. I got my license because I thought I'd like driving, but I don't. It's a formerly mandatory process in errand running humans all just sort of tolerated because they had to back in the day, but nowadays there's so many alternatives that it isn't worth doing. b***hing about zoomers not wanting to drive is like b***hing about zoomers preferring to just use a dishwasher or washer/dryer when they could be doing it all by hand. It's dumb and you're old.
7 months ago
Anonymous
if you can't mentally parse the difference between being capable of driving yourself vs washing dishes manually as opposed to via a machine, you're not too bright.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There is no difference to me. They are both a waste of my time. Seeing as how you can't understand my point, you're not too bright.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes yes, yes yes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
this, you can do most things online or get it delivered and if you have to be there physically, just pay to have someone drive you there.
>uhh uhhh it it's a made up word
No it literally isn't lmao. Go Google it hell Top Gear has used that word before.
Just go dilate to your idol Greta thunburg
At least we can just admit it's fun. Autogays always have to pull up statistics and shit because they think their choice needs to be justified
7 months ago
Anonymous
>they think their choice needs to be justified
My justification is that I don't give a shit about driving and so I'll welcome anything that makes it easier. What more justification do I need?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>implying
manualgays are the ones that need validation, look at this entire thread. everyone normal drives auto because it's easier. if you intentionally make things harder for yourself you're a moronic old person >it's fun tho!!!
so is using a sword to kill something but most people will just use a gun
7 months ago
Anonymous
Most people don't kill for fun.
Most people don't drive for fun either and I feel sorry for them
For years now, the general expectation for cars has been automatic. They usually won't even let you test drive a manual at a dealership unless you show up driving a manual yourself. You can't even rent cars in manual aside from exotic rental places.
The only people who need to know how to drive manual are valet parking attendants. I bought a car in manual just this year, since I'm getting concerned that more companies will start phasing them out. It's definitely more fun to drive them but at this point automatic has gotten so refined that the previous advantages besides drive experience have largely been addressed. Automatic at this point is more fuel efficient than manual. Unless you drive a Nissan, in that case you should buy manual only because their auto gearboxes are pieces of shit. You are just pissing away your money by buying an automatic Nissan.
Manuals are still like for like cheaper to make, probably significantly so considering how much extra electronics and shit had to be added to make autos work well, but modern cars are so fricked with electronics integration and overequipped trim levels and economies of scale are so against them so it rarely pans out that way in the sticker price.
Yeah, you won't really see much in terms of those savings especially when a lot of the electronics modern cars are laden with are outright mandated to include them. Emissions and safety bullshit alone probably eclipses the cost of the controllers for an automatic transmission.
Automatics are largely common here. Most of the traffic flow is stop and go, so it would be a b***h to drive manual and gear shift like that all the time.
Most I got is a rudimentary shifter for my Nissan Altima.
Because very few manual transmission cars are sold in america every year.
When automatic transmissions were first released they were the big new gee whiz tech and everyone wanted them, they quickly saturated the market resulting in most dealerships ordering mostly automatics with very few manuals, after a couple of generations most people have only ever encountered automatics and have no experience with manuals at all which results in there being even more momentum behind the popularity of automatics.
From what I understand the reason for the prevelance of manual transmission in other parts of the world is similar but in the other direction, automatics were hard to come by overseas in early days so people just stuck to manuals, and even when automatics were available nobody felt the need to make the switch and now everybody still goes with manuals because it's what they're familiar with.
I've only owned two cars in my life, a Geo Metro and a classic Fiat Spider. Both of them weigh about 2000lbs or less, both are tiny. Considering how much weight rests in the front of the car (where the engine, transmission, etc are) it's actually fairly easy to pick up the rear of a small car and just move it.
Source: Have had to do it a few times or just did it because I didn't want to go inside and get my keys but wanted to move the car over a little to make space for more cars.
Unrelated to the webm and related to your post, both also manuals automatics are for old people or when you're drunk, they're boring to drive.
I love how them dudes are just having a chill conversation and then are just in AWE at what they saw
they don't go back to it, they are just staring at the lad like they can't comprehend what just happened
Because what's the point of them? You can still manually shift gears in an automatic if you want to. Manuals are fun on long road trips, but for the majority of driving, they're just putting unnecessary strain on the vehicle and wasting your time and attention, when you should be paying more attention to your surroundings.
>inb4 it's automatic I don't even think about it
your brain is still processing shit that could be better used elsewhere
did you not read the inb4? I can too. It's still using a bit of the brain that could be used elsewhere. I learned to drive in an 87 Honda Civic and drove it for a long time
Depends on the area. Most people in the South know how to drive stick. But that's also because newer vehicles are pretty much being solely automatic unless they're specially ordered.
We do, it's just that actual stick shift and the clutch pedal are basically gone.
Tons of cars have a sport/manual mode that lets you control the RPMs and shift yourself, I get an entire 10 MPG more in manual, according to our car's MPG estimate.
Want to see a real trip. Let someone steal your car with the emergency brake pulled. I remember just the utter confusion when they tried to move the car a fricking inch
I've never even driven a manual and I know how to operate one. >foot off gas when you hit the clutch >shift into first >If you're speeding up: clutch, shift up >If you're slowing down: clutch, shift down
How is it that hard of a concept to grasp?
It's easy until you're stopped at a light on a steep hill and the car behind you is two inches off your bumper. Sure, even then it's not exactly hard but it is nerve-wracking.
>hill hold control
worst feature ever added to cars
i stalled my manual shitbox so many times because it keeps you in place for like 2 seconds, even when you need to more quickly in heavy traffic
and i can't even deactivate it!!!
You don't even need to use the brakes, if you hold the clutch and the accel in perfect balance on 1st gear the car won't move and you just step off the clutch when you want to go
>hold the clutch and the accel in perfect balance on 1st gear
isn't this a textbook example of the kind of thing that burns out your clutch? serious question, correct me if I'm wrong. I drive manual and used to do the fast-switch pedal method but now I use the e-brake technique.
My route home from work when I got my first car had me going up a steep road right after exiting the highway, which pretty much always meant someone's behind me every time. The first few months were absolutely nerve wracking holy shit.
When my dad taught me to drive a stick he had me get on a steep hill and practice goosing the clutch and keeping it from stalling until you could smell the engine overheating.
Never once stalled out on a hill because of it.
I was always terribly confused by people who would talk about destroying multiple transmissions learning to drive a stick because trying to jam into gear without clutching makes a god awful traumatic noise you never want to repeat.
>with hill hold control
Does fricking everything need to be automated now? Just raise the clutch until you feel it hit and then slowly switch from brake to gas or just use the handbrake.
And I'd bet you'd plummet if you tried walking a tightrope for the first time. I didn't claim to be able to do it well, just that I understood the concept.
It's fun to drive a car It's fricking bullshit that not being able to parallel park automatically fails the entire driving test, parallel parking is fricking stupid and the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life, and it was for fricking jury duty before they started giving people passes for free parking
where I live parallel parking isn't even possible because all the parking spaces have been repainted and the meters moved for modern cars and a 19 foot road boat is just not fitting into one of those spaces
i spent a lot of time practicing parallel parking just for my test, and the guy didnt even test me on it. i was perfect at it, but never did it again, so i probably cant now.
I agree. Luckily my test instructor passed me even though I failed the parallel parking portion because I drove perfectly for the rest of the test.
Depends on where you live, parallel parking would be super useful in my city. I don't do it because I suck at it.
How can a grown ass male not have enough spacial awareness to pull off something as simple as parallel parking? Are you female or have some other mental disability?
It's not that I "can't do it" it's more that parallel parking is fricking moronic and shouldn't be on any sort of driving exam.
Or at the very minimum, not scored to a degree that you can frick up signaling, and stop signs but parallel park fine and still pass the drivers exam.
it's highly dependent on the car you use. smaller, modern cars with higher visibility through windows and rear view cameras are just much easier; which is unfair for a test that gives you a license that allows you to practice more by yourself.
you need more training to get comfortable enough to parallel park with some cars, and that's too much training that somebody else needs to babysit before you get a license.
Bro, my driving test was three or four right turns, one onto a busy main street and the rest through a neighborhood. I had one stop sign and I didn't even have to park the car properly, just put the car in park next to the front door so the tester could get out. I think the only real test was making sure the guy put his seatbelt on. I totally understand how there are such bad drivers out there because of this.
my driving test was filled with enough failed assassination attempts from other moronic drivers that the instructor ignored my minor fumbling with the controls during parallel parking
how you can get licensed to drive a semi without knowing that the red light means "stop" and not "go faster" is beyond me
>Driving instructor told me I didn't look both ways at a certain point >I did, I just did it at the same time as them so they couldn't see me looking right on account of them also looking right at the same time
Didn't fail or anything, was just fricking dumb.
>parallel parking is fricking stupid and the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life
You're moronic. But considering that you can't parallel park, I guess that was obvious.
i was surprised they basically hand you your N in canada. passed first time after 5 minor mistakes. they literally just want your money, because you pay for your licence. shits not earned
I didn't even have to parallel park in my driving test and in fact it wasn't even taught to me at all despite the hefty amount of hours of instruction you had to put in to even qualify for the test here. Haven't ever needed the skill anyway so it worked out fine though.
a) bless you and your shitty driving
b) I envy you that you never have to do it, not because it's difficult but because I've been rear ended by morons three times doing it
the last time I drove a car was during the driving test for my driver's license 6 years, I passed and still renew my license from time to time but I have never owned a car before and now my fear of driving has came back, how do I overcome it without having a car in the first place?
I've just been using the bus and uber for whenever I go out and and when I go grocery shopping
Don't bother. If you're lucky enough to live in a place in America without needing a car to survive, count your blessings. Driving will become obsolete when the gas ban occurs and self-driving becomes the norm.
Are you for fricking real? Roll up next to car, reverse, full lock when other car's wing mirrors are at your shoulder, full lock on opposite side when back wheels are around 3 feet away from pavement, straighten up, done.
It's really easy when you've got a feel for how big your car is.
my parallel parking was a bunch of pylons that I had to park into by the testing centre. they are there all year so it was the easiest shit to do once the test came around
I've parallel parked exactly 5 times. 4 times during my lessons and once during the exam. I will drive 5 blocks for a parking space over having to parallel park. Frick that
What really bugs me is the written test talking about what amount of wine is the same as what amount of beer or whiskey? Who gives a shit? If you're driving you don't drink.
Driving is so fricking easy that if you fail anything at all while getting your license you should be disqualified from driving for life for the good of everyone else on the road.
I actually had to look it up but I'm not a native English speaker. I don't think I've ever seen someone call it parallel parking. It's just regular ass parking for me, lmao
Being the best. Seeing cool looking cars. Hearing vroom. Showing other people online how good you are at making wieners with the livery editor. Putting on some Eurobeat and larping as a Japanese street racer
Once you realize racing is about achieving the highest average speed throughout the track, and that driving is essentially a physics problem, racing games become incredibly fun.
I do but only on M/KB. It's honestly insane to me that so many people play FPS games regularly and are supposedly big fans or even consider themselves 'hardcore' players while using a controller that needs to do 90% of the most basic mechanic for them. Clown behavior.
>arcade opened near me recently, like actual walking distance near, I could pop in after work for an hour or two if I wanted pretty casually >mostly shooters, not my thing >except they have an Initial D Arcade Stage 8 Infinity machine >mfw
BREAKIN OUT MY BABY
NOW YOU GOT ME STEADY
Competitively racing games are the same as fighting games, a new player will never beat an expert. Not even close to a chance. There's a lot of mind games you can force other players to play as well as the skills even transfer to real life. Only boomers think it doesn't. People who grew up with racing games know how to separate game from real life.
I don't get how people enjoy the new Forza. I tried playing online and every turn is just a frick of people ramming into each other. Its not enjoyable at all.
That's just how modern racing is, it's full with those Black folk and at most you will get automatic ghosting protection or something, which is also fricking gay.
Honestly we need a new Burnout type game or something to satisfy the ramming Black folk.
>watching Euro tv show >obligatory episode of full grown adult nervous about passing a driving exam
Why do we ever let these thirdies criticize American cars and roads? I was driving cross country when I was a fricking child
I never saw something like that but ok. But it's mostly just due to instructors being c**ts. I remember when I had my exam, I was sitting in the back of the car while some girl was having hers. I don't really want to go over the whole situation but it basically boiled down to her having to do an illegal maneuver or sitting on her ass for 10 minutes. She asked the instructor, he told her to do it and it's fine, she did, and then the homosexual failed her because she didn't just tell him she won't do it.
Like, what the frick, Black person.
literally happened to me and I failed my first driving test because of it (easily passed the second time)
we turned into some small street and some guy had parked on the front edge of his driveway, so his car was taking up like half the road, and he had trailer, dude blocked the entire side of the road, I assume he was just like popping in and it was on a quieter street, but not a really small street so it was still double lined
I had no fricking idea what to do when this guy had just blocked the entire street, I asked the instructor, she looked at me and said she can't tell me anything, so I just went okay im going to go around it after checking no one else is there because of his illegal park
we get back, I got an instant failure for a law breaking maneuver, apparently I was meant to indicate to cross the double lines like I had in an "emergency situation" and it was "illegal" to do it like I had.
I went back the next week, different dude passed me easily I got 100% on the test and he said he was surprised to see I had failed just last week, told him the story, he laughed and said "yeah shes a real c**t"
I lived in Taiwan during highschool and they have the same types of tests. You're on a closed course that feels like a minigolf f1 track, everything was wired with sensors and if you didn't do the thing right a big siren would go off.
Pretty much everyone went to a driving school that taught you how to pass the test.
But the island was just one big traffic jam, and driving was a luxury since there was top tier public transport like a light rail system, busses, and cabs that could get you where you needed to go for cheap, and most people with a vehicle just had a scooter between 25 and 150cc. They looked gay as hell but are actually a lot of fun to frick around on.
I loved living there. I wouldn't reccomend it as a tourist destination or anything but it was a great place to live.
The island is just a mountain range that comes out of the ocean, the only place you can put a city are in river valleys so you have a really dense area with steep mountains coming up covered in dense tropical forests 4 blocks away from a 50 floor high rise.
The people were generally really nice and friendly, pretty safe unless you went looking for trouble, city was going 24/7. Amazing food. And really well located to travel around SEA for cheap.
>Not really, but that's got nothing to do with me. My ability to comprehend something more complicated than a 4 way stop has everything to do with me. >You can brag about what other people have done all you want but it doesn't make you look any better. >You haven't even denied it. Lying about your intelligence would be more impressive at this point
major US city. I have a manual shitbox. my commute is early and out of the city so it's not bad, inside the city I avoid driving whenever possible because I feel like I'm rolling the dice with all the idiots and they're gonna smash me eventually. honestly the pedestrians annoy me more though, sick of people crossing slowly and acting entitled when I have the green turn arrow and making me miss it with people honking behind me.
Middle of frickin nowhere in the northeast. Roads are barely wide enough for two cars even before it snows and they wind through the hills a lot. A bit sketchy at night but there's usually barely anyone else driving until you get close to the highway.
>las vegas >drunk drivers 24/7 >insane old people on vacation that think this place has no rules because "its vegas lol" >foreigners that can't drive period >every single human being has road rage and will honk at you if you aren't moving the milisecond it turns green >can turn left on yellow in some lanes so some people do it on every lane >nearly see a car crash every single time i have the misfortune of going outside
I'm moving soon. Never come to this shithole, it made me anti-car.
northeast, unfortunately close to major metro area for work. absolutely fricking hate it. heavy traffic on the backstreets, highways, narrow poorly maintained roads galore; huge shock when moving here from the midwest where I grew up. that being said; wfh since the 'rona lockdowns so lot less driving to do and complain about so it doesn't really bother me that much anymore given I don't have to get up at 5am to beat morning rush hour anymore like I did for years and just do my grocery shopping at night
Central Euro area.
I am honestly glad that 99% of the drivers actually drive properly and don't speed too much, it's a godsend.
And then I went to Italy. I am not going to Italy by car anymore.
NormalBlack folk dreaming about doing all the speeding they'd say they'd totally do if only they actually owned <overpriced, overrated sportscar that will never leave the garage besides very slow, careful weekend cruises>
>Start on a hill with a manual car >Hold brake and clutch >Turn ignition >Disengage handbrake >Shift to first gear >Balance clutch depending how steep the hill is >Remove foot from brake and place it on the gas and give it some life >While simultaneously releasing the clutch gently until you find position zero >Watch in the dead angle for hindrance >Blink out >Drive away >Drive home and play vidya
>start anywhere with an automatic car >hold brake and turn on ignition >shift to reverse, drive out >shift to drive, drive home and play vidya
What's the point of your antique again? Might as well brag about riding a horse.
Outside of rural areas (and generally getting a license is even easier in those) that's self fulfilling really. If getting a license wasn't so easy there would be more demand for alternatives.
Try selecting a forward gear and immediately slamming into reverse from there, if that's butter smooth then your reverse gear synchros are done (or you're driving an old shitbox with an unsynchronized reverse gear).
it's a polo from 2020
tricking it with a normal gear doesn't work
mechanic said it's normal to do that sometimes but i'm sure it was because the car was still in warranty back then
>morons larping as boomers pretending parallel parking is anything but a meme
literally only done it once in my entire life and that was during the driving test
This is the equivalent of "why should I have to learn algebra/geometry/[math subject], I'm not going to be a mathematician". Half the point is to learn fundamentals about how to control the car in a precise way, and understand why it works the way it does. It is a spatial skill not just a technique to use when needed. We want drivers to be more qualified than they need to be, not squeak by with the bare minimum.
I did it with no effort on my driving test and it taught me literally nothing. It's a stupid outdated concept only boomers care about just like shunning using backup cameras when backing up.
I didn't get my license until I was 20. I was so nervous I did a number of sessions of 1-on-1 road practice with an instructor first. I never made a mistake, and got nothing but compliments and perfect scores. Regardless, for a while afterward I had to bring extra shirts everywhere for a while because I always showed up with my back wet with sweat.
>go to see her earlier this year >she lives in england >have to constantly turn my brain off while she's driving because everything is backwards
Also the food was all shit, far worse than I thought
I like my mom otherwise
My instructor was, but I still think I wouldn't have passed without his constant criticism. Hugged him after I passed and still speak to him now after like 2+ years.
I do this occasionally but it's never stopped being terrifying. I never got rednecks who act like it's fun, if you stop white-knuckling for a second you're in a ditch or the oncoming lane.
I drove an hour and a half out of Chicago super cross-faded once, I genuinely think an angel or Hitler was guiding me because I had no idea what planet I was on at the time.
>it goes away after the first year or 2
it's been 4 years since i've driven. at this point i would probably would need to start over and get some lessons and they're expensive. like i have a license but i would be afraid to go on a busy road
I've driven for half my life and I ain't dead yet.
Just stay off high speed roads and the average stupidity won't kill you
7 months ago
Anonymous
I thought the faster the road was the fewer crashes it has (those crashes being more serious though)
If everyone's doing 90 and someone's driving like a tool you can just avoid or pass them.
If you're driving around town you're putting your life into the hands of a boomer/minority every time you use anything involving right of way.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Freeways and such are generally safer since everyone is going the same direction as you. The only scary thing on them are people who do nothing but inner city driving who think they can just swap lanes whenever.
T. Motorcyclist.
You can do this in America if you aren't a fatass. The last time I was on vacation I biked ~200 miles in a week getting places because I didn't feel like driving.
first time i drove to school i pulled out across multiple lanes and cut off some guy on the left lane, dude got so mad he raced in front of me and brake checked me. was pretty spooky but you get better the more u do it so just swallow it and drive
>motorstorm >driver >midnightclub >wipeout >blur >split second
these are all fricking dead
not only dead but shit like need for speed, forza, grid and grand turismo are all fricking shit now. What the frick am I supposed to play? Modded asseto Corsa?
>tfw my friends are all pretty into Formula 1 (have favorite teams, drivers, keep up with all the drama) >Just can't bring myself to care that much about it, but it's neat to watch if it's on >They talk about it regularly >Whenever this happens I just have to look interested and hope they move on from the topic
fugg
way off the mark, these are all professionals working in government jobs/teaching
yes I'm a massive normie apart from being a degenerate Ganker user with an autistic vidya obsessio
>he doesn't enjoy talking to people who are passionate about a subject and know way more about it than you do
lrn 2 conversation anon, I find such conversations to be one of life's pleasures. but I suppose it can be annoying if all they want to do is fanboy arguments or shit like that.
I can sustain a mild interest for a while and have learned a bit about it by doing so but it's just hard to understand what's THAT interesting about it. Not knocking it, just wish I could make myself like it more really.
My problem is I have interests that are a bit more niche (figures since I'm on 4chinz) so there's rarely any opportunity to sperg about them in return
I think you need to reverse with straight wheel for a bit before full locking the other way or the front of your car is going to hit the rear end of the one ahead of you
It probably depends on how far your car extends past the wheels. The cars I've driven didn't have a great deal of overhang but you can make adjustments to compensate. Getting a feel for it is how you get good at anything on the road. You should try it. If it doesn't work you can just pull away and maybe embarrass yourself in front of a few strangers. If it works you'll be the best parallel parker around
I got my license at 25 because I was bored. I've driven maybe eight times since then. Frick the peer pressure Anon, something boomBlack folk won't tell you is that you don't need it anymore.
If you live in bumfrick nowhere where you see maybe one car on the road at any given time sure. In the real world you really don't need it anymore. Everything is delivered.
If you're able bodied and pay a 30% markup on food constantly just so you never have to leave your NEET cave you're just moronic
Coupons or the above examples. Also not being poor helps, which is much easier when you're not spending money on gas, insurance or maintenance bullshit.
I'm 30 and just now about to buy a car, and only because I moved to a city that has moronic drivers and terrible roads, which makes extensive cycling suicide inducing.
I'm only going to be driving for as long as it takes me to transfer jobs out of this hellhole.
>tfw 28, about to be 29 and still don't have a license
I actually need one now more than ever because I live in a shithole where everything is too far away for me to just walk to.
I got one at 28, who gives a shit if you don't really need it? I haven't had a car for a few years now either simply because I barely ever needed one and shit's expensive to maintain.
if it incites any motivation i was either walking or cycling everywhere before i got my license at 25. the feeling i got was so freeing i felt like an entire world of opportunity opened up; because it literally did.
before that i was driving unlicensed and didn't give a shit. just didn't have the motivation to go to the BMV. it takes like 2 hours to get the license and the driving test is like 10 minutes. btw you'll be surrounded by morons when you take the written test who either had their shit revoked for DUIs, driving with expired shit, and they will all be complete morons who have failed this test multiple times while you pass it on your first because you actually read the pamphlets in the waiting room.
don't listen to other anons he probably walks from his mud hut to a different mud hut to sell rice cakes. in developed nations life happens and sometimes you gotta change jobs and that job isn't easy to commute to, your life would definitely really benefit from having access to a car.
>nooooo buy automatic break quick and and you can repair it yourself and and you have less control and and what if you need to drive someone's else car which is manual and and it's le bad
t. my dad
manual isn't cheaper, it's not easier to repair, and you have a higher chance fricking up your car especially learning it. Most automakers would've phased it out already to save costs if it weren't for there being a huge demand by people willing to pay a premium for a worse driving experience. I still think manual production is heavily subsidized by automatic sales. It's practically an entirely separate drive train they have to fricking build.
and don't forget, if you've got a manual you reduced the amount of people you can resell the car to by 90% because non whites and women don't drive manual and only a fraction of white men do
which means you have to sell your car cheaper because there's less demand for it
just don't listen to manual gays they're married to this shit technology for ideological and not practical reasons
I get brain damage has set in for tons of people on Ganker, but it's pretty funny that people legitimately can't perceive people thinking parallel parking is moronic and reflexively defend their own ego by insinuating that I don't know how to parallel park, rather than what I actually think: Parallel parking is dumb and it's dumb for how much it counts for on driving exams.
Like if you can parallel park that's great, but so can everyone who's passed the driver's exam, unless maybe you live somewhere rare that doesn't require it, but given my bumpkin ass who lives on a farm had to do it, I'd be surprised if such a place even exists.
It's not about the parking. It's about maneuvering a reversing vehicle.
Not enough people understand that the turning wheels follow a different trajectory to the trailing wheels or why that matters
You'll be asking this because you never experienced good racing games. Loud, hard as frick music and loud engines. NFS Most Wanted 2005, Burnout 3 and Revenge, those are peak.
I'm just gonna say it. I'm a fairly new driver, and I fricking hate any dick head on a bike. For about half of my lessons, my driving test and even now when I drive anywhere, there is always one fricking c**t on a bike and they have absolutely no awareness of anything.
I've lost count of the number of times I've almost hit some twat peddling his bike because these morons think the world revolves around them and make no effort to indicate or even look before just randomly turning. It's probably more accurate to say I've lost count of the number of times some fricker on a bike has almost hit my car.
>I politely give a cyclist space, follow behind him slowly because I can't overtake, pass when safe >the fricker gets in front of me at the first red light or blow through a stop sign and slows the whole lane down again
every fricking time
Yeah sometimes I feel bad that cyclists aren't given much infrastructure but when I see how they actually behave on the roads my sympathy dries up pretty fast.
When I biked to work I would always just use the sidewalk because even I knew that bikes and cars were not meant to share the same space.
only bikers who are brave brash or moronic enough to bike on the main road end up biking, others end up using some other means because safe biking is infeasible without good infrastructure. so i think its better to blame the existence of most annoying bikers on the lack of good biking infrastructure to separate bikes from cars
Nobody cared or cares. I would rather take my chance with a cop trying to fill a quota by enforcing a law nobody gives a shit about over getting ran over by some geriatric old frick.
I stopped using my bicycle once cops started fining people for riding on the sidewalk
Bicycles need dedicated cycling lanes
If they're protected by a concrete wall, sure. I'm not getting in a bike lane that a car can easily get into.
>I will willingly break the law because I just can
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Actually, it's because I'm white that I'm not scared to death of cops. I know what they're actually looking for, and it's not a white person on a bike. Stay brown.
i'm 28 and still don't know how to drive
every time i get the thought of attempting to get my license i get thoughts of making some tiny mistake and damaging the car/getting injured
Any tips for someone who's seemingly too moronic to drive? Traffic gives me information overload, I lack the dexterity to properly rev match when downshifting so my downshifts are always really rough, and I have poor spacial awareness so parking is hell for me. I can't drive without fearing for my life, with my pulse at 150 basically the whole time. But I also can't find a job without being able to drive, I've failed dozens of job interviews I was otherwise more than qualified for just because I can't drive.
It's not like I started out being scared of it, my fear of it gradually grew as I realized more and more that I'm seemingly unable to do it, with no marked improvement even after tens and then hundreds of hours of driving, and I was being a serious threat to myself and others.
I don't know you, or why you can't drive and I've never seen you drive to figure it out. But if you can't get over being scared of fricking up then you're not going to get better at driving.
For most people it usually only takes a few lessons to get over the nerves.
Just think of it this way. If you're in a town or city which usually have low speeds, even if you crash you and whatever you hit will probably survive anyway.
Realize that everyone behind the wheel has given up any hope of staying safe and that we are at the mercy of some drunk moron swerving in his F-150 and killing everyone. Or move to a city.
Either get your license through brute force attempts and continue to take public transport or move to a different city not ran by morons. I have similar issues and I only ever drive myself when the traffic is low enough to permit it.
I have a license, I just barely passed on my second try because I got lucky and there was barely any traffic when I took my test. But just because I have a license doesn't mean I can actually drive.
Weird I live in a city with good public transport and no job I've had asked me if I could drive.
If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting, or whatever, public transport isn't going to cut it. And that's ignoring the fact that industrial zones are usually not even connected to public transport.
I don't know you, or why you can't drive and I've never seen you drive to figure it out. But if you can't get over being scared of fricking up then you're not going to get better at driving.
For most people it usually only takes a few lessons to get over the nerves.
Just think of it this way. If you're in a town or city which usually have low speeds, even if you crash you and whatever you hit will probably survive anyway.
>Just think of it this way. If you're in a town or city which usually have low speeds, even if you crash you and whatever you hit will probably survive anyway.
And still get ruined by the property damage. I can't afford full insurance.
>If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting, or whatever, public transport isn't going to cut it. And that's ignoring the fact that industrial zones are usually not even connected to public transport.
Never been an issue.
>If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting
Does your company not just use zoom calls for this? Do you randomly get asked to go across town for stuff? Is you job in a pay bracket that makes moronation of this caliber worth putting up with?
>Jobs still require you to be able to drive
Like what? Very few jobs require you to drive and those that do are some low paying shitjobs that nobody wants to do.
You just lack confidence in car control so you get all flustered trying to wrangle the thing, especially since you're so concerned about muh revmatching, and the added complexity of traffic then proceeds to nuke you. Tool around some sleepy suburban roads to build muscle memory and confidence, stop overthinking that fricking revmatching shit because that's beyond your abilities for now and then proceed to introduce progressively heavier traffic into the equation once you're feeling more confident.
not scared of driving just don't like doing it, it's more fun to walk places and if i can't walk to a place i don't want to go there
need self-driving cars already
no it isnt it sucks >no cool stuff to see since you have to focus completely on driving >no sounds of the world around you (which is usually ruined by cars drowning everything out anyway) >no pleasant weather to experience since you're just stuck in your box >no exercise so you get fat >any minor mistake on your route is a giant hassle to correct >any minor mistake in your maneuvering is thousands of dollars or more in damage >have to get your car maintained constantly >have to get your car refueled constantly unless you drive a hybrid which are more expensive >have to place your faith in total strangers just to get from point A to point B safely
frick driving
>no cool stuff to see since you have to focus completely on driving
I disagree with this one. If you've ever done a long road trip it's beautiful to see how the landscape gradually changes. After 10 or 12 hours it can feel like you're on the other side of the world, really makes you appreciate how big the country is (assuming you're American but it'd probably be just as cool anywhere else unless you're in the Outback or something)
i get your point but road trips =/= errand running which is all cars are good for, if i'm going that long a distance i'll just take a plane or a train
I'm sorry you're mentally broken and incapable of feeling the best physics has to offer. Maybe don't base the driving experience off of your stupid shitbox kia and your shitty city.
>if i'm going that long a distance i'll just take a plane or a train
That's fair enough, I just drive everywhere because I'm used to it from my job and I don't like to board my dog. When you do it enough you can get into a zone and just relax with an audiobook, actually pretty comfy.
- The Driver, "Drive" (2011)
Starting a trip before dawn and seeing it get lighter in real time was enjoyable to me. If I'm not in my car I'd rather be doing something than just sitting there for a few hours to watch the sun rise
I'm sorry you're mentally broken and incapable of feeling the best physics has to offer. Maybe don't base the driving experience off of your stupid shitbox kia and your shitty city.
>Driving Thread on Ganker >It actually has good discussions about European & US Driving Differences >Everyone is united against stupid drivers
THE FRICK?!
Reminder that most people who "don't get" racing or why people like cars are usually
> literal buttplaying homosexuals >Most Woman (there's exceptions) >homosexuals that want to be woman >NPCs who take 100mgs of antidepressants and are brain dead >Men who have test deficiencies >fat asses who can't fit into a car >bus riding poorgays
Generally it's the biggest and easiest way to tell if a person is worth being around. Just ask em if they like cars or racing games.
It is if you need to slow down and downshift for an upcoming corner, but it requires a car that actually has the pedals set up for heel-and-toe (you'd be surprised how difficult it is in many cars) and it's generally very useless on the street outside of showing off to your passengers, most of the time you can just finish braking and then do a regular revmatch afterwards.
i think electric cars are based
i will switch to a self driving car when they become real
i will never learn how to drive manual
i think introducing technology to simplify driving even further is great
i will never enjoy the chore that driving is
and boomers will NEVER
EVER
stop seething about it
Strictly electric cars are dumb, because gas/diesel is so much better of a medium to store Vroom for later, and more research has gone into clean diesel operation than coal.
car goes vroom
The appeal of racing games is being a racist.
OH SHIT IS KRATOS
He gets it.
Leave Photoshop to masters of the art.
how do you do it?
Just copy the letters already in the image
Note the S and M from "myself" were copied and moved up
I don't know honestly. What's the appeal of video games?
Going fast man, come on.
Manual shifting.
the best security a car can have in america
I'd honestly be afraid of them fricking up the transmission
google "how to drive a manual car"
dumb zoomer homosexual
In what way
Manual Driving requires some muscle memory, because if you don't know what the frick you are doing the car will shut down every time you stop until the battery runs out, it is very simple but a google search will not help you magically move the car within a few minutes
>Black person actually thinks he’s a specialist cause he can drive manual.
All things start with reading how to actually operate the thing regardless of what it is.
>All things start with reading
anon... many many people have learned to drive and never read anything about it. many of them never have never read anything at all.
But they’re taught it by something or someone. Unless you just guess worked it yourself which is worse then learning it properly.
I learned from the fast and the furious
>reading
how did you manage to take that so literally are you fricking stupid? this is bait
I cannot think of a non-literal meaning of "reading" in this context, anon. Help me out here.
“learning how to from a source”
fine, but I don't think anyone uses it that way. No one says "I read about it on youtube" or whatever
the best security i've ever heard of was tested on real carjacking thieves. first of all don't own something fricking gay like a kia that has an exploitable remote start, second step is to throw a kill switch on the ignition wiring and hide it under the dash. in all the other tests they were able to steal the cars, but the kill switch test fooled them.
Anyone who can hotwire a car can bypass a kill switch. Might as well just pull the ignition fuse
that's why you hide it, you wouldn't expect a car to have a modification like that. the theory is they're not going to spend more than a few minutes trying to steal the car so make the problem just difficult enough for a stranger to solve and that might do the trick.
you can also just take all your tires off for the real ghetto car protection. that also makes it mostly untowable.
Hiding the switch is one thing but you'll also need the wiring to look stock, which can be done, but if it's noticeable it's going to delay them for a few seconds at best
i'm linking the video i watched because my memory was wrong. they put a kill switch on the fuel pump, which immediately made the thieves suspect the car was out of gas. it seemed like a clever theft deterrent.
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the switch itself is definitely noticeable but they were so concerned in trying to pull this off quickly they didn't even notice it kek
you could definitely hide the switch in the engine compartment instead
That's actually pretty funny, just wire a simple on/off switch somewhere easy to reach that the car can't start without.
it'd be even funnier to take it to the highest level and put kill switches on the most annoying things to have broken in a car just so if anyone steals it they think your shit is so broken it's completely worthless. killswitch the radio, just the left headlight, all the cabin lights, the AC plug, and VSS so it hardshifts, etc.
Kek. Dude looks full blown bewildered like he stepped into an alien spaceship
2025 is 2 years from now?
More like 13 months
Why americans can't drive manual? You can't even get a license if you don't know here
Manual cars are almost phased out in america. Unless they're a car enthusiast, most americans will have no idea what a clutch pedal is
Cars all being built for right foot braking by companies that may not even have a single clutch pedal in their model lineup is some aggressively stupid shit and it says a lot about society that we continue to do this for some nebulous convention when it directly increases the likelihood of accidents from longer braking reaction times and the almost infinitely higher chances of morons hitting the gas instead of the brake. I'm pretty sure left foot braking would even outright improve traffic flow because people wouldn't jump on and off the gas so much covering the brake or overcompensate for the time lag as much.
wtf
is this real like penis inspection day
frenchgay here i honestly dont know im not even sure the "new world" is real
Do you not know why cars are right-side brakes?
NTA but I would like an explanation for this, I assumed it was because 1) manual in the past, and 2) you don't actually want people two-footing becasue they can do both at once or something like that. I feel like the kind of person who hit gas "accidentally" in a dangerous situation is the kind of person who would stomp both
People tend to be right-foot dominant and you want better motor control over your acceleration/deceleration, plus you shouldn't (generally) be doing both at once so having both on one foot tends to be better. Of course, moronic people who add aftermarket floor mats, or senile people who lose track of their foot and panic (and there have been a few stock mats with those problems but it's not super common) will still have issues.
Honestly being able to swap between manual and auto would be nice, but most vehicles don't have that.
I've heard bullshit reasons and they're all stupid. It's entirely just because that's how a meaningful proportion of cars actually had to be driven so people getting confused between the clutch and brake was a reasonable concern, and while we can do dumb shit like Tesla turn signals or wacky shifters moving the pedals absolutely must not be done. Really it's just some cars that move the brake from the neutral middle to aggressively to the right to force right foot only that make me go "what the frick". Basically the same kind of shit as the government regulated motorcycle shift pattern that gets reversed and/or replaced with a separate neutral lockout on 90% of race bikes but nobody cares to overturn the ancient logic for.
People pressing both is really not that bad, like it gets boomer memed on with "muh brake wear" like that's worth giving a shit about compared to an extra quarter second added to your stopping time in an emergency. There's also the excuse about dragging brakes all the time but if that was such an issue then people would be dragging clutches all the time.
>Why americans can't drive manual?
I can. I drive a 5 speed compact. Why can't thirdies be a world power?
A better question would be why would they need to?
I can, I generally don't, but if I gotta use some older work vehicles I will.
Or why Europeans predominantly drive manual when their entire traffic system is inter city gridlock on cramped roads
it's a feature
this shit is dystopic. any eurogay defending multi-roundabouts has stockholm syndrome.
I don't think I've ever seen a multi roundabout anywhere. Like, ever. And it would probably be a fricking nightmare. It's already bad enough with regular ones and homosexuals not fricking signaling that they're exiting, I fricking hate that shit
why would it matter if they're exiting? There's no law nor expectation for people to signal on entry or exit to a roundabout, anon.
It is actually expected in my country. And it's really fricking annoying because you never know if you can enter it or not until the last fricking moment which could be avoided if homosexuals actually signaled their intent to exit.
how congested are your roundabouts, and are you using single lane roads or something?
>There's no law nor expectation for people to signal on entry or exit to a roundabout, anon
I don't think any single country hasn't embedded in the law that you don't need to put the signals when going to turn, in my country you literally cannot go from the inside lane to the exit on a roundabout since that's illegal, no fricking way it's allowed to not put the turn signals when exiting.
You signal your intent when you're altering the flow of traffic (merging, exiting the highway, switching lanes, etc). For a roundabout, you aren't altering the flow unless you're switching lanes, and the time at which your signals would be active in most cases wouldn't give any realistic forewarning. Me exiting a roundabout or continuing wouldn't functionally change anything about how the person in front and behind me would interface with it.
Obvious exception is in the case of a place where it's psuedogridlocked/congested.
>Me exiting a roundabout or continuing wouldn't functionally change anything about how the person in front and behind me would interface with it.
It would absolutely change it for the driver currently waiting to see if you're exiting the roundabout so they can engage on it themselves.
if my speed doesn't deviate and there's an ingress and egress lane, it really shouldn't, no. You can tell their intent by their speed and approach vector/tire angling.
Actually you're supposed to stay on the egress line if you're just passing through the roundabout without turning
I guess you drive somewhere where people are very polite drivers. I drive in an average area and without turn signals it's not advisable to engage in a busy roundabout. I'd even argue it's risky until the other driver actually starts exiting because you never know, they might've had a brain fart
it's possible, noone around here in either single or double lane roundabouts has ever used a signal, nor would I expect it, nor do I feel a need for it. But who knows, like you said, maybe the drivers around you are bad at using it or something.
yes you can, dumbass? look at the picture above.
Fortunately for me you'd be hard-pressed to impact someone in a roundabout given the design, and if you happened to, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to do any lasting damage to the vehicle occupant.
And then there's the inattentive pedestrians who will walk out in front of you, and then you'll hit the brakes and block the roundabout, well not you, you'll run them over just like everyone who talks about pedestrians on the internet. Oddly enough I've never seen someone completely disregard pedestrians like that irl
Think in my area there has been like 1 pedestrian hit at a roundabout over 3~ years or so, and it was during the winter so it was more an icy slide issue. Like 6 people gunning it and launching off the center island into a Walgreens Stone sign, though, funnily enough.
Duel lane roundabouts can eat a dick though.
d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dual* is what i meant
>You can tell their intent by their speed and approach vector/tire angling.
No, you can't that's the point, there's a frickton of people that look like they're going to get out just to make a quick turn and continue inside.
Plus, here's it's usually advised that if you're going to continue inside on an small circle one you put the turn lights towards the inside.
Not the anon, but here you have to yield to anyone currently in the roundabout regardless of whether they're turning off. My driving instructor still made a big deal about signalling out of roundabouts even though almost nobody does it, though.
I'll tell you who it does affect, the guy entering from your exit, who's waiting for nothing because you're indicating that you intend to keep going
that'd be pretty impressive considering I'd've already exited 1/6th of the circle before him, and by the fact that my car wasn't turned towards the interior he'd have to be moronic to think otherwise.
Wow a whole 1/6, you fricking moron.
>trusting other drivers to notice things
Hope you ticked the organ donor box
While I agree that this looks moronic, as an American I've always been told we needed roundabouts in our cities but never got them. And no, Americans are not too stupid for it, it just never got adopted like the metric system for whatever reason. Same general reason AC still isn't kind of a thing in Britain.
I blame stubborn boomers for the lack of metric. I would switch just to make things easier for everyone. I got taught both measurement systems at the same time so I keep jumping between the terms interchangably and I feel fricking moronic whenever I have to measure something because of it.
>muh globalism
Sometimes I wish some shit really was just globally the same.
Imperial needs to be phased out and replaced with metric. It'll probably take 100+ years to do completely but we should start now.
>. It'll probably take 100+ years
brits, aussies and canadians will never admit it, but they still use feet and miles despite having gone metric long ago.
>aussies and canadians will never admit i
I admit it freely, it's useful having more units. Millimetre to centimetre to inch to foot to meter, millilitre to teaspoon to tablespoon to cup to liter to gallon, gram to ounce to pound to kilogram.
Sharing a border with America and living with boomers is why I will have schizophrenia. I never even know what anyone over the age of 50 means when they say mpg because Canada used British gallons which are different from American gallons. The dumbest shit in the world is that grocery stores will advertise a price per/lb because it's a smaller number then the store packaging will be in kilograms so I can't even find it, fricking bullshit.
In all situations I prefer metric, but ESPECIALLY liquid measurement, speeds, and distance
the only imperial units I ever use with any regularity are feet, inches, and lbs and that's often because boomers only know those things. Ask a boomer how much a mL is and you just get a confused flouride stare (it's 1cm cubed) and they'll probably refer to it as a fricking thimble of water lol
I've never used imperial in Australia and the only people I've heard say anything in it are boomers.
>it just never got adopted like the metric system for whatever reason
Fricking moron. Metric is used everywhere in the US.
what the frick is this
roundabouts alone are kinda based but this shit
holy frick
just gimme a 4-way stop at that point
Swindon, UK's 6/7 circle roundabout.
Yo dog, we heard u like driving in circles so we put a roundabout in your roundabout in your roundabout.
Anyone who can't figure this out is totally lacking in critical thinking skills
Not really. We just have more space in America so we do better things. Ever heard of a cloverleaf?
Are you admitting that you can't figure it out?
Are you admitting your city planning sucks? In my country, The United States of America (USA) I would be driving on a freeway around the city going 80+ mph in my manual and never slowing down until an exit 1 minute from my destination, then parking in a massive parking lot full of space. Sorry you have to deal with the cramped spaces you were given. Don't be mad, be better.
>just one more lane bro
Can I figure it out? Yeah. Do I trust random strangers to figure it out and not frick up me or my car? Hell no.
>things american brain can't comprehend
lel, to be fair I'm sure early on when they were new, if people had no real knowledge of them and whatnot, they might be confused. Real problem is if one person does something incorrect others might see it and go "oh, is that what we need to be doing?" and follow suit.
>confused
you mean as confused as driving into the wrong lane
So, I have to ask. There's one entrance road there, and three exits. All of the roads are one-way streets, and the divider between lanes on each road ends within a hundred feet. What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection?
round abouts deter the high speed T-bones that kill people.
Lame. This is the reason why everything is becoming worse, fricking morons can't go ten minutes without finding new ways to kill themselves.
None of those are one-way streets.
you fricking what
>cars driving on both sides of the meridian in the same direction
>no signal lights or markings
do britbongs just drive wherever and stop and have a cricket game when someone is coming at them head on?
Doesn't look like Britain to me; the cars are too long.
well, wherever it is, watch the paths from 0:08 on
unless that driver is fricking up, that's two lanes of traffic going in the same direction and would absolutely be a one-way street in burgerland since holy shit what the frick are you doing if you have traffic driving at each other head-on without any lane markings or signs
>unless that driver is fricking up
He is. Thats the point of the webm.
>cars driving on both sides of the meridian in the same direction
Americans are moronic. The first car went left because they got confused and most drivers followed. You can actually see them coming from the right side before going left.
>no signal lights or markings
Yeah.... because it's a roundabout
ahh, frick, it is america, isn't it? i just noticed the dollar general sign and i'm pretty sure that's an only-burger thing. so one guy did frick up and everyone else followed, and the guy who cut late and had to go to the outside was actually in the right and going into the correct outside lane. what a fricking nightmare, i'm not even gonna make excuses there since it looks like the DOT just plunked down a roundabout, replacing a normal 4-way intersection, and expected people who've never driven them before (that one looks so new the grass hasn't even grown back in) to know what's going on when their daily road is suddenly different
even as a burger myself the few roundabouts around here have signs marking which exit leads where, direction of traffic and so on
i apologize for my own moronation and that of my fellow countrymen
They're driving on the right until they hit the driving puzzle
>What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection?
Traffic keeps moving instead of starting and stopping every few minutes for lights/stop signs.
Marginally safer since you dont have someone running a light and t-boning someone. You could still cause an accident by being a stupid butthole but it would be lower impact.
>Marginally safer
Depends on how stupidly they designed it
The town I grew up in used to have a fricking 3-lane rotary connecting to the ramps to the highway and that shit was a deathtrap, they replaced it with a straight road and traffic lights sometime after I moved out and it generally seems like less of a pain in the ass.
Sure, but I meant in more general terms. Anyone can frick anything up if they try hard enough.
>What's the advantage of putting a roundabout there and not just an intersection
Roundabout accidents usually are less mortal than intersection accidents, apart from them being less frequent to begin with.
Most accidents there are usually people entering the roundabout at an alarming high speed without looking and driving right at a car that was already inside.
>Roundabout accidents usually are less mortal than intersection accidents
That makes sense. Nobody's going to come speeding through a roundabout at 110. Even if you give no fricks about road rules + intend to just go through the middle you're still going to want to slow down before hitting the giant bump in the center so you don't get launched.
>Nobody's going to come speeding through a roundabout at 110.
This homie doesn't dorifto
I loved seeing this webm get posted in Cyberpunk threads when they showed that Polish devs added a roundabout in Night City.
this image irritates me greatly but the only defense I will make of it is that when you see multiple other drivers going a certain way, even if you think it's wrong it's not unreasonable to think "maybe they know something I don't know" if it's an unfamiliar area
Jesus christ Europe get your shit together
This just screams poor city planning cope. Probably an old timey crossroad that needed to be updated and there was no way to trim down the number of entrances. Little town to big city things.
Never seen anything more obtuse. I hated driving in Italy due to several hars to parse roads. One spot had 3 roundabouts in a row of different sizes and lengths. Thankfully my country is pretty tame on these sorts of constructs.
it's just a 5 roundabout minigame you idiots
you pass one, you go to the next
it actually isn't, by the fact that you go to the interior bit in some cases as opposed to following the external (which is far slower) the whole time.
>ackshually a bus isn't a public transport where you sit down and reach your destination, because you can also stand up
shut the frick up nerd
what are you even trying to say?
it's how you sound like moron
turning a truth into the wrong answer because an alternative exists
only autists with an ago do that
It's not a truth though, considering the point of the design (and why it has interior lanes) is to cut through, having someone or the entire flow of traffic stick to the outside is moronic and obstructionist.
who the frick said they had to keep to the outside???
they need to yield even if they go in the middle, making it a 5 point roundabout
>Wheels within wheels
Blessed
My city is getting California's first TURBO roundabout. It's not even done yet and these morons use the regular roundabout as a stop sign. This turbo shit is going to be awful.
it's not difficult to figure out but anxiety might step in the first time you approach one
the logic laid out here means you can just drive around in one of these forever like they did in national lampoon
i get anxious approaching them because they are rare in ohio and you don't know if you're sharing it with one of those people. this place is full of blue collar rednecks who only know stop and go.
>Look kids! Big ben... Parliament...
Looking back my family was basically the griswold's, complete with Cousin Eddie.
it's great for traffic if the drivers have the mental capacity to understand how it works
>X is great if [other drivers] have the mental capacity
And here is the fatal flaw in your argument. Everyone on the road is a moron. No exceptions.
Why are some of the lane lines wiggly?
I think that indicates a pedestrian crossing
yeah it's so you slow down because there's a pedestrian crossing coming up
pls respond
Looks exactly like those intersections in India or China where everyone just does whatever the frick they want.
well that's exactly what it is, except with the british cultural tradition of queuing in a line as well
I used to live near whatever the frick this is
The upper left bit went about as well as you'd expect
spooky
Wasn't the meme roundabout actually extremely safe due to how intimidating it looks, so it naturally throws off the usual morons and puts them on the defensive?
is this AI generated? Why the flying frick would you put roundabouts in your stops in your roundabout? That's a fricking enormous hazard and has no reason to exist
No, it's quite real, in Swindon, UK.
Yet it's Europe developing all the high tech dsg auto boxes.
because they don't print money like you
Because we're wealthy enough to have such luxuries as automatic shifters, power windows, air conditioning, airbags, power brakes, etc. on even the low end cars.
New cars here have all that but with manual still. But keep being proud about how you get ripped off paying 100k for some truck lol
>more tech good
You must like lane assist, auto emergency braking, auto high beams, proximity warnings, reversing cameras and all that bullshit
>lane assist
i turn that off. thats made for women that insist on driving a yukon but think its a fiat.
>auto emergency braking
never experienced it
>auto high beams
literally nothing wrong with them
>proximity warnings
depends on the type. mostly fine.
>reversing cameras
again, literally nothing wrong with them.
>auto high beams
It's fine if you don't mind blinding other drivers
>reversing cameras
It's fine if you don't rely on them exclusively, which way too many people do.
All this stuff enables dumbasses doing dumbass things
>It's fine if you don't mind blinding other drivers
you mustve only dealt with the early iterations. on my car they turn off if theres a street light 100 yards ahead of me. as soon as it catches a whiff of a light its off before i would ever be able to react to turning it off.
>It's fine if you don't rely on them exclusively
im sure these people do exist, but ive never seen them. ive seen more people forget they even have cameras and continue just looking back or using mirrors. hard to break habits.
From what I've heard, high beams tend to exceed the recognition distance of the cameras, but take it with a grain of salt
My city planning? I don't live in London or wherever that thing is, I'm just not certifiably moronic.
Can you actually not figure it out?
>Can you actually not figure it out?
Can you actually not drive 80+ mph around your shithole city?
Not really, but that's got nothing to do with me. My ability to comprehend something more complicated than a 4 way stop has everything to do with me.
You can brag about what other people have done all you want but it doesn't make you look any better.
You haven't even denied it. Lying about your intelligence would be more impressive at this point
i been relying on my reverse camera for 2 years just fine. this is just old man talk
>DONT FORGET TO LOOK OUT THE PHYSICAL WINDOWS SONNY, LIKE I DID
Tell that to the women who hit people while backing out of parking spots because they weren't visible on the screen
>women
brubbruhbruhbruhbruhbruh
It's a woman in all the stories I've heard
Reversing cameras are a must with how dogshit visibility is nowadays on new vehicles. Thick fricking beams to hide the roll cages fricking sucks. Thanks Obama.
Why are thirdies such luddites? This is why you're all poor and miserable.
>lane assist, auto emergency braking, auto high beams,
Fricking what?
> proximity warnings, reversing cameras
Unironically good
frick is a power window
>air bags
this is not a good thing
>frick is a power window
actual unironic thirdie. which soviet satellite do you hail from?
I know that Euro countries are largely too small to even conceive of a highway, but how the hell do you expect to survive a high speed impact without breaking your neck without airbags?
Instead of cranking the window up and down you have a button with a motor.
>frick is a power window
a good album that gets forgotten because it's between Signals and Hold Your Fire
arguably has their 2nd best album opener, after 2112 ofc
is grading things on album openings a thing? because i've gotta give that to farewell to kings
>is grading things on album openings a thing?
there was some humorous dialogue in the movie High Fidelity about this
most car companies dont even make manual transmissions anymore. and if they do offer them, you have to pay extra. automatics have gotten so good, the benefits of driving manual are barely noticeable, outside of high end racing. also autos are moron-resistant, making it much harder to frick your transmission up.
>most car companies dont even make manual transmissions anymore
Wrong. Your probably just american but cars are actually designed for different markets.
You only see autos in america because thats all you lazy fat slobs buy.
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
>moronic pseudoluddites try to feign superiority regardless
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
People choose manuals for a reason.
They're only like $500 difference in price.
when your buying a $20000 new car $500 means nothing.
Im south african and majority of new car sales here are manuals despite still getting most of the same cars released in america.
There are auto and manual versions for the majority of cars released.
I dont know where you guys are getting the idea that only autos are being sold.
Even budget compact cars all have auto versions these days.
people chose them in the past because early automatics were generally inferior in terms of transmission and gas efficiency, and you could manually do better/control RPMs. For things like racing and whatnot the highest end drivers would still benefit from manuals, but modern automatics are leagues better and perform better than 99.9% of drivers, so no, there's no real reason. It's not 20-30 years ago, anon.
The advantage of manual is the feel.
Im no poofta.
Its an investment in comfort
>People choose manuals for a reason.
Because they're stupid.
>when your buying a $20000 new car $500 means nothing.
Thats a 2.5% increase before interest. Spending money frivolously for no benefit is moronic irrespective of the actual amount.
>no functional benefit of manuals in the modern era
Imagine optimizing the fun out of driving
I'm not pretending I'm in Initial D while I'm going down the road for groceries
There is nothing fun about modern driving, I wish I didn't have to do this shit. Younger people don't drive as much as previous generations since Lyft and Uber are just better in most instances so the average person on the road is some old frick in his sixties that can barely see anything and think they have the right of way in every scenario. Half of the time it feels like I'm fighting for my life whenever I go run errands. Anyone who thinks driving is fun probably lives in the middle of buttfrick nowhere where they don't have to deal with traffic.
>why dont americans use manual?
>because most companies dont make them
>WELL YOU MUST JUST BE AMERICAN
???? yes? that was the question.
>Your
Thirdie education
american here
i learned to drive manual on the way home from buying a used 5spd accord from a town 100+ miles away
people just need to git gud
Leaf here, learned the same way just with a 84' camaro, ended up taking my full license test with that car too.
Best way to learn is to do.
The government is moronic. this is the answer 80% of the time
automatics have gotten so good that the possibility of fricking up your transmission through user error is less appealing than the very slim efficiency benefits assuming perfect use. the past where an automatic was an inefficient crutch isn't the case anymore.
Because you legit have to special order a car in America to get a manual transmission
I don't know what you're talking about. Im an american and my first three cars were manual transmission.
I've taught multiple people how to drive one in a parkinglot in about 20 minutes.
Its really not hard at all outside of some tricky stuff for first timers, like starting from a stop on a hill.
in america, manual drive cars are for tradition-obsessed morons (which are most cargays) that need to validate themselves by showing they can do an obsolete task that has been rendered obsolete by superior technology so it makes sense they're a perfect fit for thirdies too
it's gonna be so funny when actual self-driving cars cause the biggest luddite seethe since AI
As much as I'd like to relax through a long drive I don't trust a computer to do it
the computer can do it just fine currently, the problem is bitter homosexual old people/morons that won't "gib up muh freedumbs" when self-driving cars become more available. japan is building roads specifically for self-drive only because they know it's going to be impossible to get boomers to stop driving their manual shitmobiles
there's some auto taxi services that work completely fine in some US cities like phoenix but it probably won't be widespread as long as tech-fearing gays exist
>japan is building roads specifically for self-drive only because they know it's going to be impossible to get boomers to stop driving their manual shitmobiles
I think this is the way to go. Prove that it works and people are gonna see the benefits and switch. try to force it and people will frick up the system out of spite and b***h about every little flaw.
You can't blame people for not wanting to completely trust themselves to a machine when a very large part of learning to drive is being hammered with the fact that cars are dangerous and driving requires you to focus.
I can blame a lot of zoomers for being wishy-washy people who refuse to put effort into shit and just live their lives in fear, relying on other people to shuttle them around since they're horrified of responsibility or challenge.
Lotta my younger coworkers don't drive, or their GFs don't, and it's embarassing.
To me it's an inevitability of the soccer mom phenomena. Your parents probably learned to drive because they were tired of walking everywhere, kids today just learned to be terrified of driving from riding with a distracted woman for hours every day.
Yea, definitely a bit of truth to that.
>LIFE SHOULD BE HARD FOR KIDS BECAUSE IT WAS HARD FOR ME
I'm sorry you're bitter about not getting to grow up in a world with a lot of luxuries and conveniences that are now an everyday thing and the factually shit things you had to tolerate are now being phased out. Keep holding onto your shit traditions out of spite, I'll keep stomping on your fingers so everyone has it easier.
Driving isn't hard though, inconveniencing everyone around you because you refuse to face a fear is the issue here.
Driving isn't hard, dealing with other people driving is. There's a reason everyone drives a fricking gigantic car nowadays, nobody trusts anybody and for good reason, the average person on the road is a moron. I would gladly sign a bill that bans human-driven cars just to get those fricking morons off the road.
>There's a reason everyone drives a fricking gigantic car nowadays
Because that is nearly all they make and all they really want to sell to skirt environmental regulations that give lenience for fat pieces of shit on the assumption that weight will go towards utility and not marketing more expensive vehicles to dumb women.
The irony of eurogays crying about all the fancy tech in cars when most if not all of the reasons why cars look the way they do today is due to european regulators and Obongo adopting them.
Yes, unironically
Suffer like G did?
Loser.
I'll live to see it happen to you too, mark my words anon.
I didn't suffer as a kid nor do I want other people to suffer.
You're a loser.
I don't see a point in driving when I can just have someone else do it for me. I got my license because I thought I'd like driving, but I don't. It's a formerly mandatory process in errand running humans all just sort of tolerated because they had to back in the day, but nowadays there's so many alternatives that it isn't worth doing. b***hing about zoomers not wanting to drive is like b***hing about zoomers preferring to just use a dishwasher or washer/dryer when they could be doing it all by hand. It's dumb and you're old.
if you can't mentally parse the difference between being capable of driving yourself vs washing dishes manually as opposed to via a machine, you're not too bright.
There is no difference to me. They are both a waste of my time. Seeing as how you can't understand my point, you're not too bright.
yes yes, yes yes.
this, you can do most things online or get it delivered and if you have to be there physically, just pay to have someone drive you there.
And we will always exist, white-coat.
t. drives a manual v70
>Go up gentle incline
>Automatic shits itself
There is a reason all hilly european countries drive manual.
not my problem
t. has torque
Have Europoors never heard of TNT?
Blast your way through those hills when you are building roads for fricks sake.
I know leveling everything is convenient, but I prefer the scenery
It's for driver engagement you stupid balls less troony fricker
It's simply more fun to be one with the car even if it performs worse.
>driver engagement
if you have to make up buzzwords to justify driving your fred flinstone shitmobile around then i rest my case
>uhh uhhh it it's a made up word
No it literally isn't lmao. Go Google it hell Top Gear has used that word before.
Just go dilate to your idol Greta thunburg
At least we can just admit it's fun. Autogays always have to pull up statistics and shit because they think their choice needs to be justified
>they think their choice needs to be justified
My justification is that I don't give a shit about driving and so I'll welcome anything that makes it easier. What more justification do I need?
>implying
manualgays are the ones that need validation, look at this entire thread. everyone normal drives auto because it's easier. if you intentionally make things harder for yourself you're a moronic old person
>it's fun tho!!!
so is using a sword to kill something but most people will just use a gun
Most people don't kill for fun.
Most people don't drive for fun either and I feel sorry for them
For years now, the general expectation for cars has been automatic. They usually won't even let you test drive a manual at a dealership unless you show up driving a manual yourself. You can't even rent cars in manual aside from exotic rental places.
The only people who need to know how to drive manual are valet parking attendants. I bought a car in manual just this year, since I'm getting concerned that more companies will start phasing them out. It's definitely more fun to drive them but at this point automatic has gotten so refined that the previous advantages besides drive experience have largely been addressed. Automatic at this point is more fuel efficient than manual. Unless you drive a Nissan, in that case you should buy manual only because their auto gearboxes are pieces of shit. You are just pissing away your money by buying an automatic Nissan.
Manuals are still like for like cheaper to make, probably significantly so considering how much extra electronics and shit had to be added to make autos work well, but modern cars are so fricked with electronics integration and overequipped trim levels and economies of scale are so against them so it rarely pans out that way in the sticker price.
Yeah, you won't really see much in terms of those savings especially when a lot of the electronics modern cars are laden with are outright mandated to include them. Emissions and safety bullshit alone probably eclipses the cost of the controllers for an automatic transmission.
Automatics are largely common here. Most of the traffic flow is stop and go, so it would be a b***h to drive manual and gear shift like that all the time.
Most I got is a rudimentary shifter for my Nissan Altima.
Because very few manual transmission cars are sold in america every year.
When automatic transmissions were first released they were the big new gee whiz tech and everyone wanted them, they quickly saturated the market resulting in most dealerships ordering mostly automatics with very few manuals, after a couple of generations most people have only ever encountered automatics and have no experience with manuals at all which results in there being even more momentum behind the popularity of automatics.
From what I understand the reason for the prevelance of manual transmission in other parts of the world is similar but in the other direction, automatics were hard to come by overseas in early days so people just stuck to manuals, and even when automatics were available nobody felt the need to make the switch and now everybody still goes with manuals because it's what they're familiar with.
tl;dr familiarity and prevalence.
I've only owned two cars in my life, a Geo Metro and a classic Fiat Spider. Both of them weigh about 2000lbs or less, both are tiny. Considering how much weight rests in the front of the car (where the engine, transmission, etc are) it's actually fairly easy to pick up the rear of a small car and just move it.
Source: Have had to do it a few times or just did it because I didn't want to go inside and get my keys but wanted to move the car over a little to make space for more cars.
Unrelated to the webm and related to your post, both also manuals automatics are for old people or when you're drunk, they're boring to drive.
I love how them dudes are just having a chill conversation and then are just in AWE at what they saw
they don't go back to it, they are just staring at the lad like they can't comprehend what just happened
Because what's the point of them? You can still manually shift gears in an automatic if you want to. Manuals are fun on long road trips, but for the majority of driving, they're just putting unnecessary strain on the vehicle and wasting your time and attention, when you should be paying more attention to your surroundings.
>inb4 it's automatic I don't even think about it
your brain is still processing shit that could be better used elsewhere
Excuse me, you can't shift while looking around at your surroundings? I do it everytime, don't need to watch where my hand is. Its muscle memory.
did you not read the inb4? I can too. It's still using a bit of the brain that could be used elsewhere. I learned to drive in an 87 Honda Civic and drove it for a long time
It's the opposite, manual forces you to keep your attention while automatic driving allows you to drive braindead and do shit like texting and driving
Depends on the area. Most people in the South know how to drive stick. But that's also because newer vehicles are pretty much being solely automatic unless they're specially ordered.
We do, it's just that actual stick shift and the clutch pedal are basically gone.
Tons of cars have a sport/manual mode that lets you control the RPMs and shift yourself, I get an entire 10 MPG more in manual, according to our car's MPG estimate.
You people sure are stupid.
I was taught manual on a water truck that wouldn't stay in gear. Was recommended to speed shift so I wouldn't frick up the clutch any further.
Because manuals are for third worlders. Outdated technology, same reason you don't know how to hand-crank a car and manually adjust fuel-spark.
Want to see a real trip. Let someone steal your car with the emergency brake pulled. I remember just the utter confusion when they tried to move the car a fricking inch
Do you know how to grow your own wheat and build your own house? Why not, anon?
When you are the richest empire in human history you can afford luxuries such as not having to drive third world cars
He looks like he just stepped into a parallel dimension.
wow do Americans really?
Is he high?
When the KETAMINE kicks in
My vehicle has a manual transmission that is automated by air 🙂
>me discovering masturbation
I've never even driven a manual and I know how to operate one.
>foot off gas when you hit the clutch
>shift into first
>If you're speeding up: clutch, shift up
>If you're slowing down: clutch, shift down
How is it that hard of a concept to grasp?
It's easy until you're stopped at a light on a steep hill and the car behind you is two inches off your bumper. Sure, even then it's not exactly hard but it is nerve-wracking.
>hold control
ayo this boi driving with a keyboard
>hill hold control
worst feature ever added to cars
i stalled my manual shitbox so many times because it keeps you in place for like 2 seconds, even when you need to more quickly in heavy traffic
and i can't even deactivate it!!!
You don't even need to use the brakes, if you hold the clutch and the accel in perfect balance on 1st gear the car won't move and you just step off the clutch when you want to go
>hold the clutch and the accel in perfect balance on 1st gear
isn't this a textbook example of the kind of thing that burns out your clutch? serious question, correct me if I'm wrong. I drive manual and used to do the fast-switch pedal method but now I use the e-brake technique.
The clutch will be fine and it's not even that expensive to service anyway. Much easier than replacing an automatic.
>the kind of thing that burns out your clutch?
If you're doing it constantly, sure, but its a fraction of the time spent driving.
yeah, it was the first thing i learned on my drive lessons, you just need some level of familiarity with the car.
My route home from work when I got my first car had me going up a steep road right after exiting the highway, which pretty much always meant someone's behind me every time. The first few months were absolutely nerve wracking holy shit.
When my dad taught me to drive a stick he had me get on a steep hill and practice goosing the clutch and keeping it from stalling until you could smell the engine overheating.
Never once stalled out on a hill because of it.
I was always terribly confused by people who would talk about destroying multiple transmissions learning to drive a stick because trying to jam into gear without clutching makes a god awful traumatic noise you never want to repeat.
Lol the burning smell was the clutch you homosexual.
>not using the handbrake
You are smalltime
>light goes from red to yellow to green
It's a UK picture. Car is RHD.
>with hill hold control
Does fricking everything need to be automated now? Just raise the clutch until you feel it hit and then slowly switch from brake to gas or just use the handbrake.
Where is the clutch pedal
Is this for people who need to browse their phones while driving and as such can't just use the hand brake?
>foot off gas when you hit the clutch
>shift into first
the hard part comes next
I bet if I threw you into a manual you would stall it 20 times first.
I definitely would, and maybe even on purpose too
but that's okay, because I have no intention of learning manual ever in my life.
And I'd bet you'd plummet if you tried walking a tightrope for the first time. I didn't claim to be able to do it well, just that I understood the concept.
I'm never gonna learn to drive a manual
gonna go from automatic straight to EV
>Be car theif
>BE WHITE CAR THEIF
>Cant steal a manual car
>Can only steal shitboxes sold for less than 2k to be chopped
For real its simple and this is from 2004 what the frick man before* the digital age
How moronic do you have to be to not understand a manual transmission?, not even the clutch but just the idea of the gears.
It's fun to drive a car
It's fricking bullshit that not being able to parallel park automatically fails the entire driving test, parallel parking is fricking stupid and the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life, and it was for fricking jury duty before they started giving people passes for free parking
I agree. Luckily my test instructor passed me even though I failed the parallel parking portion because I drove perfectly for the rest of the test.
Depends on where you live, parallel parking would be super useful in my city. I don't do it because I suck at it.
where I live parallel parking isn't even possible because all the parking spaces have been repainted and the meters moved for modern cars and a 19 foot road boat is just not fitting into one of those spaces
>in my city.
You're in a city
Walk.
>But people might attack me
Leave then, cities suck.
>You're in a city
>Walk.
imagine driving in a city. unless you have the money to pay other people to drive for you, frick that
Walk into the city? That would probably take an hour
i spent a lot of time practicing parallel parking just for my test, and the guy didnt even test me on it. i was perfect at it, but never did it again, so i probably cant now.
How can a grown ass male not have enough spacial awareness to pull off something as simple as parallel parking? Are you female or have some other mental disability?
I messed up backing in a straight line.
It's not that I "can't do it" it's more that parallel parking is fricking moronic and shouldn't be on any sort of driving exam.
Or at the very minimum, not scored to a degree that you can frick up signaling, and stop signs but parallel park fine and still pass the drivers exam.
you're so moronic, holy shit
Found the femoid
it's highly dependent on the car you use. smaller, modern cars with higher visibility through windows and rear view cameras are just much easier; which is unfair for a test that gives you a license that allows you to practice more by yourself.
you need more training to get comfortable enough to parallel park with some cars, and that's too much training that somebody else needs to babysit before you get a license.
Bro, my driving test was three or four right turns, one onto a busy main street and the rest through a neighborhood. I had one stop sign and I didn't even have to park the car properly, just put the car in park next to the front door so the tester could get out. I think the only real test was making sure the guy put his seatbelt on. I totally understand how there are such bad drivers out there because of this.
I dunno where you live, anon, but parallel parking is vital for me. I do it almost daily.
I haven’t parallel parked since I took my driving test 15 years ago.
they skipped parallel parking for me and just said "your truck is too big, don't bother" kek
my driving test was filled with enough failed assassination attempts from other moronic drivers that the instructor ignored my minor fumbling with the controls during parallel parking
how you can get licensed to drive a semi without knowing that the red light means "stop" and not "go faster" is beyond me
sorry buddy I've got a timetable to make, you'll need to adapt.
I had to learn how to parallel park and have to use it all the time cause I live in an urban area
i can parallel park perfectly fine and i still failed my driving test because the instructor was a fricking schizo
>Driving instructor told me I didn't look both ways at a certain point
>I did, I just did it at the same time as them so they couldn't see me looking right on account of them also looking right at the same time
Didn't fail or anything, was just fricking dumb.
>parallel parking is fricking stupid and the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life
You're moronic. But considering that you can't parallel park, I guess that was obvious.
>Can't parallel park
It's been said before but it's more the principle that
>Fricking up parallel parking will fail you for the entire driver's test
my driving test was a quick drive around the block and a 3 point turn
>the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life
kek what
Keep learning anon, you'll get it one day.
i was surprised they basically hand you your N in canada. passed first time after 5 minor mistakes. they literally just want your money, because you pay for your licence. shits not earned
Canada has 13 different licensing systems Sanjeet
literally whiter than you
You're a b***h bastard too buddy.
>t. leaners
you'll get it one day. homosexual. pfft yeah right. taking my 2021 outta here see ya gay
At no point did I have a single clue what the frick you were saying ESL-chama
>t. 30 with L
It's nice to live in a city that has parking lots everywhere, but you should be ashamed as a man to not know how to parallel park.
I didn't even have to parallel park in my driving test and in fact it wasn't even taught to me at all despite the hefty amount of hours of instruction you had to put in to even qualify for the test here. Haven't ever needed the skill anyway so it worked out fine though.
driving instructor here, it's not really about parallel parking, it's about being able to manouevr while going in reverse
a) bless you and your shitty driving
b) I envy you that you never have to do it, not because it's difficult but because I've been rear ended by morons three times doing it
the last time I drove a car was during the driving test for my driver's license 6 years, I passed and still renew my license from time to time but I have never owned a car before and now my fear of driving has came back, how do I overcome it without having a car in the first place?
I've just been using the bus and uber for whenever I go out and and when I go grocery shopping
>how do I overcome it without having a car in the first place?
you can pay for driving instructors who provide the car
Don't bother. If you're lucky enough to live in a place in America without needing a car to survive, count your blessings. Driving will become obsolete when the gas ban occurs and self-driving becomes the norm.
Are you for fricking real? Roll up next to car, reverse, full lock when other car's wing mirrors are at your shoulder, full lock on opposite side when back wheels are around 3 feet away from pavement, straighten up, done.
It's really easy when you've got a feel for how big your car is.
I live in Alabama and have never had to parrarel park in my life. I can’t even spell the shit
I don’t have a manuel(can’t spell that either) car so why would I know how to? Why would I buy a car that requires extra effort to use?
git gud
my parallel parking was a bunch of pylons that I had to park into by the testing centre. they are there all year so it was the easiest shit to do once the test came around
>the odds that you might actually have to do it happen maybe once in your entire fricking life
what? lmfao
I've parallel parked exactly 5 times. 4 times during my lessons and once during the exam. I will drive 5 blocks for a parking space over having to parallel park. Frick that
>people actually fail their driving tests
>in the easiest country to get a license
Never try again for everyone's saftey. You'll 100% get someone killed you knuckle dragger
What really bugs me is the written test talking about what amount of wine is the same as what amount of beer or whiskey? Who gives a shit? If you're driving you don't drink.
Driving is so fricking easy that if you fail anything at all while getting your license you should be disqualified from driving for life for the good of everyone else on the road.
>zoomers don't even know what parallel parking is
it says pawellel, probably a furry
I actually had to look it up but I'm not a native English speaker. I don't think I've ever seen someone call it parallel parking. It's just regular ass parking for me, lmao
its a joke you morons
It isn't a good one.
>pretending to be moronic
Being the best. Seeing cool looking cars. Hearing vroom. Showing other people online how good you are at making wieners with the livery editor. Putting on some Eurobeat and larping as a Japanese street racer
Once you realize racing is about achieving the highest average speed throughout the track, and that driving is essentially a physics problem, racing games become incredibly fun.
Play Burnout and youll understand
ITS A SHOTGUN BABY
Burnout is not a racing game.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnout_(series)
Inb4 coping
Shut up nerd
>en.m
>crashgay defense force shows up
kek
burnout is insanely fun but i don't really consider it a racing game first either
I don't really consider Call of Duty an FPS either
I do but only on M/KB. It's honestly insane to me that so many people play FPS games regularly and are supposedly big fans or even consider themselves 'hardcore' players while using a controller that needs to do 90% of the most basic mechanic for them. Clown behavior.
>parallel parking
Who the frick made this?
the contradiction of needing to sometimes go slow to go fast, racing exemplifies the give and take that makes a good mechanic.
>Doesn't play driving games past burnout 3 and Most Wanted
Uhh..., is this a bad thing?
No, they peaked there
>arcade opened near me recently, like actual walking distance near, I could pop in after work for an hour or two if I wanted pretty casually
>mostly shooters, not my thing
>except they have an Initial D Arcade Stage 8 Infinity machine
>mfw
BREAKIN OUT MY BABY
NOW YOU GOT ME STEADY
Who says they have appeal?
Competitively racing games are the same as fighting games, a new player will never beat an expert. Not even close to a chance. There's a lot of mind games you can force other players to play as well as the skills even transfer to real life. Only boomers think it doesn't. People who grew up with racing games know how to separate game from real life.
I don't get how people enjoy the new Forza. I tried playing online and every turn is just a frick of people ramming into each other. Its not enjoyable at all.
>I tried playing online
and there you have it
That's just how modern racing is, it's full with those Black folk and at most you will get automatic ghosting protection or something, which is also fricking gay.
Honestly we need a new Burnout type game or something to satisfy the ramming Black folk.
Forza puts you in races with other people that ram because you are a rammer.
who's dumber, the person in the gif, or op for thinking that has anything to do with parallel parking
>watching Euro tv show
>obligatory episode of full grown adult nervous about passing a driving exam
Why do we ever let these thirdies criticize American cars and roads? I was driving cross country when I was a fricking child
I never saw something like that but ok. But it's mostly just due to instructors being c**ts. I remember when I had my exam, I was sitting in the back of the car while some girl was having hers. I don't really want to go over the whole situation but it basically boiled down to her having to do an illegal maneuver or sitting on her ass for 10 minutes. She asked the instructor, he told her to do it and it's fine, she did, and then the homosexual failed her because she didn't just tell him she won't do it.
Like, what the frick, Black person.
literally happened to me and I failed my first driving test because of it (easily passed the second time)
we turned into some small street and some guy had parked on the front edge of his driveway, so his car was taking up like half the road, and he had trailer, dude blocked the entire side of the road, I assume he was just like popping in and it was on a quieter street, but not a really small street so it was still double lined
I had no fricking idea what to do when this guy had just blocked the entire street, I asked the instructor, she looked at me and said she can't tell me anything, so I just went okay im going to go around it after checking no one else is there because of his illegal park
we get back, I got an instant failure for a law breaking maneuver, apparently I was meant to indicate to cross the double lines like I had in an "emergency situation" and it was "illegal" to do it like I had.
I went back the next week, different dude passed me easily I got 100% on the test and he said he was surprised to see I had failed just last week, told him the story, he laughed and said "yeah shes a real c**t"
I lived in Taiwan during highschool and they have the same types of tests. You're on a closed course that feels like a minigolf f1 track, everything was wired with sensors and if you didn't do the thing right a big siren would go off.
Pretty much everyone went to a driving school that taught you how to pass the test.
But the island was just one big traffic jam, and driving was a luxury since there was top tier public transport like a light rail system, busses, and cabs that could get you where you needed to go for cheap, and most people with a vehicle just had a scooter between 25 and 150cc. They looked gay as hell but are actually a lot of fun to frick around on.
other than the traffic jam everything you said sounds nice to me including the test
I loved living there. I wouldn't reccomend it as a tourist destination or anything but it was a great place to live.
The island is just a mountain range that comes out of the ocean, the only place you can put a city are in river valleys so you have a really dense area with steep mountains coming up covered in dense tropical forests 4 blocks away from a 50 floor high rise.
The people were generally really nice and friendly, pretty safe unless you went looking for trouble, city was going 24/7. Amazing food. And really well located to travel around SEA for cheap.
Try doing a real driving test and you'll understand
you mean like spongebob?
>knowing what a round-about even is let alone how to navigate one
Feels good not being a third-worlder
This happened near me.
Old man had a seizure and likely had his license revoked. Really fortunate no one got hurt.
Driving should have an age limit. Tired of dealing with old fricks when I'm on the road.
old people should have to retest every few years, but unfortunately they're prideful fricks and are the largest voting bloc...
>old people should have to retest every few years
I many areas they do
>Not really, but that's got nothing to do with me. My ability to comprehend something more complicated than a 4 way stop has everything to do with me.
>You can brag about what other people have done all you want but it doesn't make you look any better.
>You haven't even denied it. Lying about your intelligence would be more impressive at this point
racism
>live in rural NY
>Shift ends at 2am
>see drunk drivers swerving all over the road running red lights at least 3/7 commutes
How's your area, br/o/s?
major US city. I have a manual shitbox. my commute is early and out of the city so it's not bad, inside the city I avoid driving whenever possible because I feel like I'm rolling the dice with all the idiots and they're gonna smash me eventually. honestly the pedestrians annoy me more though, sick of people crossing slowly and acting entitled when I have the green turn arrow and making me miss it with people honking behind me.
Exactly the same except worse because I have horrible night vision. FRICK JERSEY
FRICK PA
Frick PA roads. Frick PennDOT. Thank god I never have a reason to ever enter NJ.
Middle of frickin nowhere in the northeast. Roads are barely wide enough for two cars even before it snows and they wind through the hills a lot. A bit sketchy at night but there's usually barely anyone else driving until you get close to the highway.
>las vegas
>drunk drivers 24/7
>insane old people on vacation that think this place has no rules because "its vegas lol"
>foreigners that can't drive period
>every single human being has road rage and will honk at you if you aren't moving the milisecond it turns green
>can turn left on yellow in some lanes so some people do it on every lane
>nearly see a car crash every single time i have the misfortune of going outside
I'm moving soon. Never come to this shithole, it made me anti-car.
northeast, unfortunately close to major metro area for work. absolutely fricking hate it. heavy traffic on the backstreets, highways, narrow poorly maintained roads galore; huge shock when moving here from the midwest where I grew up. that being said; wfh since the 'rona lockdowns so lot less driving to do and complain about so it doesn't really bother me that much anymore given I don't have to get up at 5am to beat morning rush hour anymore like I did for years and just do my grocery shopping at night
>Southern California
The roads are always congested in the daytime but I work night shift so traffic is nonexistent during my commute. COmfy.
Central Euro area.
I am honestly glad that 99% of the drivers actually drive properly and don't speed too much, it's a godsend.
And then I went to Italy. I am not going to Italy by car anymore.
NormalBlack folk dreaming about doing all the speeding they'd say they'd totally do if only they actually owned <overpriced, overrated sportscar that will never leave the garage besides very slow, careful weekend cruises>
theyre fun
>tfw dad can parallel park in spaces smaller than the car's length
one day it will be me
>people in front/behind smash into your vehicle and run off
MANY such cases
>Start on a hill with a manual car
>Hold brake and clutch
>Turn ignition
>Disengage handbrake
>Shift to first gear
>Balance clutch depending how steep the hill is
>Remove foot from brake and place it on the gas and give it some life
>While simultaneously releasing the clutch gently until you find position zero
>Watch in the dead angle for hindrance
>Blink out
>Drive away
>Drive home and play vidya
i keep clutch in the bite zone until car has at least 5km/h
I use the hand break until ive revved up enough to go into first.
>hold clutch and handbrake
>release handbrake and dump the clutch before the car rolls back
>do a burnout while onlookers cheer for you
>start anywhere with an automatic car
>hold brake and turn on ignition
>shift to reverse, drive out
>shift to drive, drive home and play vidya
What's the point of your antique again? Might as well brag about riding a horse.
The point of it being fun. I like automatics too, but manuals give a different rush.
>manual
>automatic
Lmao cargays are gonna get giga filtered unlike horse chads when the resource wars start
I don't understand how americans are so bad at driving when having a car is pretty much mandatory
It's because having a car is mandatory. You can't hold drivers to any standard without preventing people from driving
Outside of rural areas (and generally getting a license is even easier in those) that's self fulfilling really. If getting a license wasn't so easy there would be more demand for alternatives.
>try to shift into reverse
>KKRRR KRRRRRR
>doesn't go in until i slam it in
wtf is wrong with it Ganker?
Try selecting a forward gear and immediately slamming into reverse from there, if that's butter smooth then your reverse gear synchros are done (or you're driving an old shitbox with an unsynchronized reverse gear).
it's a polo from 2020
tricking it with a normal gear doesn't work
mechanic said it's normal to do that sometimes but i'm sure it was because the car was still in warranty back then
>morons larping as boomers pretending parallel parking is anything but a meme
literally only done it once in my entire life and that was during the driving test
This is the equivalent of "why should I have to learn algebra/geometry/[math subject], I'm not going to be a mathematician". Half the point is to learn fundamentals about how to control the car in a precise way, and understand why it works the way it does. It is a spatial skill not just a technique to use when needed. We want drivers to be more qualified than they need to be, not squeak by with the bare minimum.
math is useful
parking in a shitty spot is not
and how about reading comprehension? alternate joke: tell that to Austin Powers
I did it with no effort on my driving test and it taught me literally nothing. It's a stupid outdated concept only boomers care about just like shunning using backup cameras when backing up.
>it taught me literally nothing
how would you know? don't act like you're an expert in how the brain works
>ahem
FRICK RIGHT ON RED
FRICK LEFT ON YELLOW
IMPATIENT BOOMERS GET THE ROPE
GREEN MEANS GO
>pass both exams first time
>never drive again because it makes me too nervous
who /autist/ here
I didn't get my license until I was 20. I was so nervous I did a number of sessions of 1-on-1 road practice with an instructor first. I never made a mistake, and got nothing but compliments and perfect scores. Regardless, for a while afterward I had to bring extra shirts everywhere for a while because I always showed up with my back wet with sweat.
GOD, THIS
MY INSTRUCTOR WAS SUCH A b***h, IT NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS DOING ANYTHING RIGHT
THAT WAS A YEAR AGO AND I HAVEN'T DRIVEN SINCE
how's your relationship with your mother?
>go to see her earlier this year
>she lives in england
>have to constantly turn my brain off while she's driving because everything is backwards
Also the food was all shit, far worse than I thought
I like my mom otherwise
My instructor was, but I still think I wouldn't have passed without his constant criticism. Hugged him after I passed and still speak to him now after like 2+ years.
ive been driving intoxicated since age 15
I do this occasionally but it's never stopped being terrifying. I never got rednecks who act like it's fun, if you stop white-knuckling for a second you're in a ditch or the oncoming lane.
I drove an hour and a half out of Chicago super cross-faded once, I genuinely think an angel or Hitler was guiding me because I had no idea what planet I was on at the time.
The first driving lesson I ever had I was high as balls on oxycodone. I aced the frick out of that lesson.
my dad took away all the fun of driving so i never bought a car
I do however have a little 125cc scooter that i use for almost everything
it goes away after the first year or 2
>it goes away after the first year or 2
it's been 4 years since i've driven. at this point i would probably would need to start over and get some lessons and they're expensive. like i have a license but i would be afraid to go on a busy road
i spent some years without driving too after getting my license and yeah i was garbage when i got back behind the wheel but practice fixes that
Just drive. You aren't going to die unless somebody does something incredibly stupid
>bro just trust other drivers
lol
lmao
I've driven for half my life and I ain't dead yet.
Just stay off high speed roads and the average stupidity won't kill you
I thought the faster the road was the fewer crashes it has (those crashes being more serious though)
If everyone's doing 90 and someone's driving like a tool you can just avoid or pass them.
If you're driving around town you're putting your life into the hands of a boomer/minority every time you use anything involving right of way.
Freeways and such are generally safer since everyone is going the same direction as you. The only scary thing on them are people who do nothing but inner city driving who think they can just swap lanes whenever.
T. Motorcyclist.
That's true as long as there's no crossroads
>get my drivers license
>never drive again because I don't live in merica and can just walk, cycle or use public transport to get wherever I want
You can do this in America if you aren't a fatass. The last time I was on vacation I biked ~200 miles in a week getting places because I didn't feel like driving.
first time i drove to school i pulled out across multiple lanes and cut off some guy on the left lane, dude got so mad he raced in front of me and brake checked me. was pretty spooky but you get better the more u do it so just swallow it and drive
the thrill of coming in first place and the soul crushing defeat of second
>all my favorite arcade racers are dead and buried
still replay them from time to time though.
Anyone knows if tokyo extreme racer is worth my time?
>motorstorm
>driver
>midnightclub
>wipeout
>blur
>split second
these are all fricking dead
not only dead but shit like need for speed, forza, grid and grand turismo are all fricking shit now. What the frick am I supposed to play? Modded asseto Corsa?
>tfw my friends are all pretty into Formula 1 (have favorite teams, drivers, keep up with all the drama)
>Just can't bring myself to care that much about it, but it's neat to watch if it's on
>They talk about it regularly
>Whenever this happens I just have to look interested and hope they move on from the topic
fugg
consider friends outside of cleetus and his 15 brothers
way off the mark, these are all professionals working in government jobs/teaching
yes I'm a massive normie apart from being a degenerate Ganker user with an autistic vidya obsessio
>he doesn't enjoy talking to people who are passionate about a subject and know way more about it than you do
lrn 2 conversation anon, I find such conversations to be one of life's pleasures. but I suppose it can be annoying if all they want to do is fanboy arguments or shit like that.
I can sustain a mild interest for a while and have learned a bit about it by doing so but it's just hard to understand what's THAT interesting about it. Not knocking it, just wish I could make myself like it more really.
My problem is I have interests that are a bit more niche (figures since I'm on 4chinz) so there's rarely any opportunity to sperg about them in return
Is getting a racing wheel, pedals and stick shift setup worth it bros
no one can answer that for you, anon. I have a couple sim enthusiast friends that love it. it's up to you to provide the enthusiasm.
It was 10 years ago when that same wheel was 25% cheaper and came with the shifter, now it's all a boomer/esports scam.
Worth is an interesting word. What's it worth to you?
Is there any game that lets me practice and test out different parking situations?
gta v and a trainer mod
GTA V
That's how I got used to driving before I actually did it. I just wish I could shoot drivers without consequence in real life too.
Any mods?
I don't remember finding parallel parking opportunities in GTA 5
Anything with cars and realer than NFS physics. I remember parallel parking in GTA4 the way my dad explained it and was surprised it worked perfectly
>The way my dad explained
Please elaborate
Stop when you're lined up, full lock and reverse until your front wheel is next to their rear wheel, full lock the other way and reverse. That's it
I think you need to reverse with straight wheel for a bit before full locking the other way or the front of your car is going to hit the rear end of the one ahead of you
It probably depends on how far your car extends past the wheels. The cars I've driven didn't have a great deal of overhang but you can make adjustments to compensate. Getting a feel for it is how you get good at anything on the road. You should try it. If it doesn't work you can just pull away and maybe embarrass yourself in front of a few strangers. If it works you'll be the best parallel parker around
>tfw 25 and still don't have a license
I got my license at 25 because I was bored. I've driven maybe eight times since then. Frick the peer pressure Anon, something boomBlack folk won't tell you is that you don't need it anymore.
You need it if you aren't an urboid
If you live in bumfrick nowhere where you see maybe one car on the road at any given time sure. In the real world you really don't need it anymore. Everything is delivered.
Yea need a job if you’re not a disabled neet living with your parents like you.
>Uber, bus or bike
Just say you're fat.
Coupons or the above examples. Also not being poor helps, which is much easier when you're not spending money on gas, insurance or maintenance bullshit.
If you're able bodied and pay a 30% markup on food constantly just so you never have to leave your NEET cave you're just moronic
I'm 30 and just now about to buy a car, and only because I moved to a city that has moronic drivers and terrible roads, which makes extensive cycling suicide inducing.
I'm only going to be driving for as long as it takes me to transfer jobs out of this hellhole.
>tfw 28, about to be 29 and still don't have a license
I actually need one now more than ever because I live in a shithole where everything is too far away for me to just walk to.
I got one at 28, who gives a shit if you don't really need it? I haven't had a car for a few years now either simply because I barely ever needed one and shit's expensive to maintain.
if it incites any motivation i was either walking or cycling everywhere before i got my license at 25. the feeling i got was so freeing i felt like an entire world of opportunity opened up; because it literally did.
before that i was driving unlicensed and didn't give a shit. just didn't have the motivation to go to the BMV. it takes like 2 hours to get the license and the driving test is like 10 minutes. btw you'll be surrounded by morons when you take the written test who either had their shit revoked for DUIs, driving with expired shit, and they will all be complete morons who have failed this test multiple times while you pass it on your first because you actually read the pamphlets in the waiting room.
don't listen to other anons he probably walks from his mud hut to a different mud hut to sell rice cakes. in developed nations life happens and sometimes you gotta change jobs and that job isn't easy to commute to, your life would definitely really benefit from having access to a car.
>it's another episode of you frick up the clutch and your car turns off in the middle of a busy city road
just get an automatic man, genuinely nobody cares if you drive auto except moronic homosexuals
and those moronic homosexuals are all going to be driving EV's in a decade with fake manual drive because
>moronic homosexuals
manual is a thing of the past already today and it's going to be utterly btfo obsolete within 10 years.
>nooooo buy automatic break quick and and you can repair it yourself and and you have less control and and what if you need to drive someone's else car which is manual and and it's le bad
t. my dad
>but automatic break quick and and you can't repair it yourself**
god fricking dammit i can't type im going to sleep
>moronic tech-illiterate old person is the only person that wants to keep manual around
many such cases
it seriously isn't fricking worth it
manual isn't cheaper, it's not easier to repair, and you have a higher chance fricking up your car especially learning it. Most automakers would've phased it out already to save costs if it weren't for there being a huge demand by people willing to pay a premium for a worse driving experience. I still think manual production is heavily subsidized by automatic sales. It's practically an entirely separate drive train they have to fricking build.
and don't forget, if you've got a manual you reduced the amount of people you can resell the car to by 90% because non whites and women don't drive manual and only a fraction of white men do
which means you have to sell your car cheaper because there's less demand for it
just don't listen to manual gays they're married to this shit technology for ideological and not practical reasons
Restarting the race the second you make one mistake. Satisfies perfectionist autism.
Concentration, control of emotions, and consistency are rewarded.
Racing games ultimately are about maintaining control.
Like chess, only faster.
I get brain damage has set in for tons of people on Ganker, but it's pretty funny that people legitimately can't perceive people thinking parallel parking is moronic and reflexively defend their own ego by insinuating that I don't know how to parallel park, rather than what I actually think: Parallel parking is dumb and it's dumb for how much it counts for on driving exams.
Like if you can parallel park that's great, but so can everyone who's passed the driver's exam, unless maybe you live somewhere rare that doesn't require it, but given my bumpkin ass who lives on a farm had to do it, I'd be surprised if such a place even exists.
I think you should learn to drive instead of making excuses to not drive.
I have a license you utter, complete, and total silly billy.
Yeah and you still won't go anywhere you have to park on the street, so good job.
The only place I HAD to go where I had to parallel park was court for jury duty.
And now they give you free parking.
I love people like you. More parking directly in front of the entrance for me
It's the beer tastes like shit comic but for cars.
It's not about the parking. It's about maneuvering a reversing vehicle.
Not enough people understand that the turning wheels follow a different trajectory to the trailing wheels or why that matters
I like the sound, that's all
You'll be asking this because you never experienced good racing games. Loud, hard as frick music and loud engines. NFS Most Wanted 2005, Burnout 3 and Revenge, those are peak.
Gran Turismo introduced to the wonder that is Super GT and JGTC
I'm just gonna say it. I'm a fairly new driver, and I fricking hate any dick head on a bike. For about half of my lessons, my driving test and even now when I drive anywhere, there is always one fricking c**t on a bike and they have absolutely no awareness of anything.
I've lost count of the number of times I've almost hit some twat peddling his bike because these morons think the world revolves around them and make no effort to indicate or even look before just randomly turning. It's probably more accurate to say I've lost count of the number of times some fricker on a bike has almost hit my car.
>move well into oncoming to pass a b*ke
>cyclist starts to swerve into your lane just before you overtake him
Guess I'm catching a manslaughter today
Even worse since they insist on using busy roads so a line starts to build up behind them before anyone has a chance to pass
Literally every single fricking time. I swear these nob rashes do it on purpose.
>I politely give a cyclist space, follow behind him slowly because I can't overtake, pass when safe
>the fricker gets in front of me at the first red light or blow through a stop sign and slows the whole lane down again
every fricking time
Yeah sometimes I feel bad that cyclists aren't given much infrastructure but when I see how they actually behave on the roads my sympathy dries up pretty fast.
You're alright though
only bikers who are brave brash or moronic enough to bike on the main road end up biking, others end up using some other means because safe biking is infeasible without good infrastructure. so i think its better to blame the existence of most annoying bikers on the lack of good biking infrastructure to separate bikes from cars
When I biked to work I would always just use the sidewalk because even I knew that bikes and cars were not meant to share the same space.
It's illegal to do that.
Nobody cared or cares. I would rather take my chance with a cop trying to fill a quota by enforcing a law nobody gives a shit about over getting ran over by some geriatric old frick.
If they're protected by a concrete wall, sure. I'm not getting in a bike lane that a car can easily get into.
>I will willingly break the law because I just can
nonwhite detected.
Actually, it's because I'm white that I'm not scared to death of cops. I know what they're actually looking for, and it's not a white person on a bike. Stay brown.
Yeah you're not white.
I stopped using my bicycle once cops started fining people for riding on the sidewalk
Bicycles need dedicated cycling lanes
i'm 28 and still don't know how to drive
every time i get the thought of attempting to get my license i get thoughts of making some tiny mistake and damaging the car/getting injured
Any tips for someone who's seemingly too moronic to drive? Traffic gives me information overload, I lack the dexterity to properly rev match when downshifting so my downshifts are always really rough, and I have poor spacial awareness so parking is hell for me. I can't drive without fearing for my life, with my pulse at 150 basically the whole time. But I also can't find a job without being able to drive, I've failed dozens of job interviews I was otherwise more than qualified for just because I can't drive.
Quit being a pussy. Of course you're going to frick up if you're too scared of driving.
It's not like I started out being scared of it, my fear of it gradually grew as I realized more and more that I'm seemingly unable to do it, with no marked improvement even after tens and then hundreds of hours of driving, and I was being a serious threat to myself and others.
I don't know you, or why you can't drive and I've never seen you drive to figure it out. But if you can't get over being scared of fricking up then you're not going to get better at driving.
For most people it usually only takes a few lessons to get over the nerves.
Just think of it this way. If you're in a town or city which usually have low speeds, even if you crash you and whatever you hit will probably survive anyway.
Realize that everyone behind the wheel has given up any hope of staying safe and that we are at the mercy of some drunk moron swerving in his F-150 and killing everyone. Or move to a city.
>Or move to a city.
I live in a city. Jobs still require you to be able to drive. You're unhireable if you're reliant on public transport.
Either get your license through brute force attempts and continue to take public transport or move to a different city not ran by morons. I have similar issues and I only ever drive myself when the traffic is low enough to permit it.
I have a license, I just barely passed on my second try because I got lucky and there was barely any traffic when I took my test. But just because I have a license doesn't mean I can actually drive.
If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting, or whatever, public transport isn't going to cut it. And that's ignoring the fact that industrial zones are usually not even connected to public transport.
>Just think of it this way. If you're in a town or city which usually have low speeds, even if you crash you and whatever you hit will probably survive anyway.
And still get ruined by the property damage. I can't afford full insurance.
>If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting, or whatever, public transport isn't going to cut it. And that's ignoring the fact that industrial zones are usually not even connected to public transport.
Never been an issue.
>If your boss requires you to visit another site or office, or come along for some kind of meeting
Does your company not just use zoom calls for this? Do you randomly get asked to go across town for stuff? Is you job in a pay bracket that makes moronation of this caliber worth putting up with?
Sounds like you're doing blue collar slavework, which is who cars are for. Consider changing to a white collar field.
Weird I live in a city with good public transport and no job I've had asked me if I could drive.
>Jobs still require you to be able to drive
Like what? Very few jobs require you to drive and those that do are some low paying shitjobs that nobody wants to do.
You just lack confidence in car control so you get all flustered trying to wrangle the thing, especially since you're so concerned about muh revmatching, and the added complexity of traffic then proceeds to nuke you. Tool around some sleepy suburban roads to build muscle memory and confidence, stop overthinking that fricking revmatching shit because that's beyond your abilities for now and then proceed to introduce progressively heavier traffic into the equation once you're feeling more confident.
You're overthinking it. Stop worrying about rev matching for a start, at least until you can navigate the road without thinking
For me, its the World Rally Championship
Because I'm too poor and unskilled to do it in real life.
I practiced parallel parking in Gran Turismo with a G27.
not scared of driving just don't like doing it, it's more fun to walk places and if i can't walk to a place i don't want to go there
need self-driving cars already
Driving is fun, unless you live in a crowded city
no it isnt it sucks
>no cool stuff to see since you have to focus completely on driving
>no sounds of the world around you (which is usually ruined by cars drowning everything out anyway)
>no pleasant weather to experience since you're just stuck in your box
>no exercise so you get fat
>any minor mistake on your route is a giant hassle to correct
>any minor mistake in your maneuvering is thousands of dollars or more in damage
>have to get your car maintained constantly
>have to get your car refueled constantly unless you drive a hybrid which are more expensive
>have to place your faith in total strangers just to get from point A to point B safely
frick driving
>no cool stuff to see since you have to focus completely on driving
I disagree with this one. If you've ever done a long road trip it's beautiful to see how the landscape gradually changes. After 10 or 12 hours it can feel like you're on the other side of the world, really makes you appreciate how big the country is (assuming you're American but it'd probably be just as cool anywhere else unless you're in the Outback or something)
The nullabor is the single most boring thing to experience.
i get your point but road trips =/= errand running which is all cars are good for, if i'm going that long a distance i'll just take a plane or a train
sorry you're fat
Yeah bro
Max Verstappen is fat. All driving enthusiasts are fat
Seethe more. Or maybe your brain is also incapable of feeling that too. NPC
>if i'm going that long a distance i'll just take a plane or a train
That's fair enough, I just drive everywhere because I'm used to it from my job and I don't like to board my dog. When you do it enough you can get into a zone and just relax with an audiobook, actually pretty comfy.
- The Driver, "Drive" (2011)
Starting a trip before dawn and seeing it get lighter in real time was enjoyable to me. If I'm not in my car I'd rather be doing something than just sitting there for a few hours to watch the sun rise
I'm sorry you're mentally broken and incapable of feeling the best physics has to offer. Maybe don't base the driving experience off of your stupid shitbox kia and your shitty city.
Thinking about getting a racing license.
I like the weather in motorsport and it sounds great with headphones.
>Enjoy driving around
>Hate having to account for other drivers
Anyone else feel this?
>Driving Thread on Ganker
>It actually has good discussions about European & US Driving Differences
>Everyone is united against stupid drivers
THE FRICK?!
Off topic threads tend to be the only good ones, you should know this by now
Not all off topic threads are good but standout ones are Driving, cooking and old school anime on Ganker
a tale as old as time.
Reminder that most people who "don't get" racing or why people like cars are usually
> literal buttplaying homosexuals
>Most Woman (there's exceptions)
>homosexuals that want to be woman
>NPCs who take 100mgs of antidepressants and are brain dead
>Men who have test deficiencies
>fat asses who can't fit into a car
>bus riding poorgays
Generally it's the biggest and easiest way to tell if a person is worth being around. Just ask em if they like cars or racing games.
>most people ... are usually Most Woman
what did anon mean by this?
Before the thread dies, can any Euro tell me if the sideways pedal stomp thing from Initial D is actually practical?
If I had a manual I'd be doing it every time I shifted and would probably kill the car immediately.
Look up heel toe.
I don't think it's that useful unless you're trying to stop as quickly as possible
It is if you need to slow down and downshift for an upcoming corner, but it requires a car that actually has the pedals set up for heel-and-toe (you'd be surprised how difficult it is in many cars) and it's generally very useless on the street outside of showing off to your passengers, most of the time you can just finish braking and then do a regular revmatch afterwards.
i think electric cars are based
i will switch to a self driving car when they become real
i will never learn how to drive manual
i think introducing technology to simplify driving even further is great
i will never enjoy the chore that driving is
and boomers will NEVER
EVER
stop seething about it
I'd prefer if you used the bus so there's a little more space on the road for people who want to use it
Strictly electric cars are dumb, because gas/diesel is so much better of a medium to store Vroom for later, and more research has gone into clean diesel operation than coal.