Battle for middle earth probably loses because the 2nd half of the campaign starts to slog hard and has more filler whereas RotK was fun as frick the whole way through
The next best one is probably Third Age (the final fantasy X clone)
More turn based rpg's should have copied the ffx battle system
>recently finished reading the silmarillion, the hobbit, and FotR >silmarillion was interesting though the chapter of Beren and Luthien was complete dogshit >the hobbit was actually pretty fricking bad >the first half of FotR is boring as frick as it takes them forever to get out of the shire and tom bombadil is pure cancer >second half of FotR really picks up and starts getting exciting
Sure hope TT and RotK are better than FotR and their movie adaptations
Someone brought it to work unsolicited to show me how “incomprehensibly impossible” it was to read so I asked to borrow it and read through it while I was doing nothing at my desk. I had no intention of reading the rest of the series but another colleague saw me reading it and got me the hobbit + LotR set for secret santa
I’m in the military so I literally sit on my ass most days barely doing anything. An overwhelming number of people I’m around everyday is either a sociopath, a psychopath, a narcissist, a megalomaniac, or ghetto/trailer park trash. Those two events were just completely coincidental and unusual as most people either treat me like a leper or are extremely passive aggressive with me
Holy frick i have never seen a more succinct and accurate description of daily life in the military. You sit around doing nothing or pointless busywork (i spent a whole day throwing Rosetta Stone Arabic courses into a trash compactor because we didnt need them anymore) until the next HR training that everyone has to do because of something some sociopath, psychopath, megalomaniac, or braindead idiot did.
The hobbit was shit. Tolkien repeatedly kept pulling out new contrivances out of his ass the moment they were needed to be relevant to the story and quickly discarding them right afterwards. Also almost everything in the story was as anti-climactic as a wet fart
>Self contained chapters where each has a new and exciting thing for you to read to your kids each night in bite sized chunks is bad
You're a gay and your shits all moronic, every chapter in the book was memorable because of its structure
Go back to tvtropes
And the award for the worst taste in literature goes to *suspenseful pause* this anon! Congratulations!
>wow we finally got to the mountain after 200 pages, now what? >oh it looks like we don’t need to worry about the dragon because some literal who killed him with a magic arrow we don’t know about before because a bird told him where to aim, all while we were sitting in a dark cave for several days. how convenient!
>oh boy looks like things are getting tense with the elves, dwarves, and people, I sure hope Thorin stops acting like a complete butthole for no reason >oh my god goblins are attacking! oops, looks like i got bonked on the head and passed out the entire fight. i sure hope no one died and hand-waved away in a single sentence while i was passed out!
>sup gandalf, where did you go off to anyways? oh you went all the way back to rivendell only to come all the way back here to fight a necromancer in the woods? oh you’re not going to say literally anything else about it? okay, cool i guess
Wow, what spectacular fricking writing. Just because it’s Tolkien doesn’t mean its written in gold, morons
Kek. Holy fricking filtered. If you struggle to follow anything going on in the Hobbit maybe you should stick to See Spot Run.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's not written like Harry Potter so it's bad
Don't go reading the Illiad friend.
>hurr durr ur just dumb and didn’t get it!
This is pathetic. You two are absolutely pathetic. You’re probably 90 IQ midwits that think you’re geniuses for reading a book and that’s IF you actually read it and aren’t just brainlessly parroting what you saw on the internet. Quit treating media as a substitute to a personality, you clueless fanboy sperges
2 years ago
Anonymous
you calling anyone a "90 IQ midwit" after that scathing "critique" you just wrote is fricking laughable, my man
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the redditor thinks he's smart because he read tvtropes
Holy dunning krueger
2 years ago
Anonymous
>was introduced to LoTR as a kid by my uncle >who has read it twelve times and absolutely adores it >the man is a literal genius IQ with a doctorate in philosophy and can read Latin and Greek with a library larger than many schools.
It's just funny how your assumptions are so hilariously off the mark.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God I miss hyper autists like Tolkien and Terry Pratchett
When I visited my local library recently to study I glanced at the fiction section and my god it was depressing
Thr main book on display was about two gay Muslims in Japan on a race against time to find a cure for the local dragons or some shit, I just can't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just go read some old time diary entries or letters home from the front during like WW1 and compare that to now and realize that command of the language and understanding of literature and shit has fallen off so hard. 18 year old farmboys from the trenches writing every single sentence like poetry and modern "writers" making millions off of absolute garbage that would barely be considered pulp.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>18 year old farmboys from the trenches writing every single sentence like poetry and modern "writers" making millions off of absolute garbage that would barely be considered pulp.
Okay, hold up. You understand that tons of people weren't even fricking literate back then right? And you're reading from a cherry-picked selection. Obviously only a handful of letters are going to be found worthy of being preserved 100 years into the future.
I don't even entirely disagree with you point, but it's not "damn, everyone was so smart back then" so much as it's now every moron, homosexual and Black person can spew their textual diarrhea for the entire world to see and have it digitally preserved and archived forever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No you are factually incorrect, the Average IQ has slipped a great deal in the past 100 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you legit think that schools didn't exist during WW1? Actual literacy, as in able to read, think and comprehend was probably higher on average than now. "but only shit worthy of being preserved". No man, just go pull up some shitty reports on how many fricking tomatoes the Regiment has in stock somewhere and read it. It's actually fascinating stuff.
There's a WW2 recruiting poster in the officers mess on my base (I never did take a picture of it unfortunately) that goes on about how all thinking men of good conscience can clearly see the importance of joining the army to ensure the defence of Empire, churned out by some clerk at whatever the frick barracks way back when. Compare that to shit like this churned out by an committee of hyper literate mongoloids being sold to a generation of what is theoretically the most literate and educated generation of all time.
No it wasn’t. There was literally no agency because they ended up just spending the night there anyways then leaving in the morning. It was even worse at Weathertop when they literally see the black riders riding up to the base, then they decide to start a fire, eat, then fricking sing a song, only for frodo to get stabbed because they were found. Holy shit that part was fricking stupid
>dorkwad applying their tvtropes understanding of fiction and dramatic structure to a hyperautist who sought to single-handedly create his own mythos/legendarium in the same vein as arturian legend or the prose edda
[...] >hurr durr ur just dumb and didn’t get it!
This is pathetic. You two are absolutely pathetic. You’re probably 90 IQ midwits that think you’re geniuses for reading a book and that’s IF you actually read it and aren’t just brainlessly parroting what you saw on the internet. Quit treating media as a substitute to a personality, you clueless fanboy sperges
Holy shit you managed to piss off a couple of genuine autists. The unique poster counter hasn’t gone up once in the last 12 posts
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are the one that is autistic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The unique poster counter hasn’t gone up
Well, you're right about that.
>setting up the adventure >running from the nazgul through the shire being written like a horror novel
The vast overwhelming majority of books the beginning is generally pretty boring. Maybe try reading more if you think fellowship is particularly bad.
The problem is that it takes absolutely forever to setup and the good stuff is buried
People roasted the movies for deviating from the books but they got the pacing for fellowship of the ring just right imo
Leaving Tom bombadil and the borders of the shire feels like where the book is finally out of the tutorial so to speak
Tbh I read a lot in high school and then got addicted to videogames, so I haven't touched books in like a decade
I don't consider the shire a waste, there's a lot of good stuff there and I enjoy the buildup and sense of transition. Sounds mostly like difference in opinion though more than anything.
[...] >hurr durr ur just dumb and didn’t get it!
This is pathetic. You two are absolutely pathetic. You’re probably 90 IQ midwits that think you’re geniuses for reading a book and that’s IF you actually read it and aren’t just brainlessly parroting what you saw on the internet. Quit treating media as a substitute to a personality, you clueless fanboy sperges
No it wasn’t. There was literally no agency because they ended up just spending the night there anyways then leaving in the morning. It was even worse at Weathertop when they literally see the black riders riding up to the base, then they decide to start a fire, eat, then fricking sing a song, only for frodo to get stabbed because they were found. Holy shit that part was fricking stupid
>oh no, there was no agency
This reads like some feminist complaint about sleeping beauty. >Strider telling them they know they can trust him because if he wanted the ring he would just kill them and take it
Legit top tier writing.
Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor deserves a mention since it makes the Asscreed Ubisoft game formula fun by adding some actual flavor to the content. Too bad WB patented the Nemesis System.
unironically a great game that truly was ahead of its time. imagine it released nowadays where people are already used to stuff like chivalry and mordhau
Divide and Conquer for Medieval 2: Total War
Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2
War of the Ring
The Hobbit (2003)
The Fellowship of the Ring (2002
The Two Towers (2002)
Return of the King (2004)
The Two Towers (GBA)
Return of the King (GBA)
The Third Age
The Third Age (GBA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest
War in the North
Lego Lord of the Rings
>ITT: anons trying way too hard to get a reaction out of someone that made them angry because they disagree with them because he said something mean about something they consider part of their identity
did you seriously get so fricking butthurt over getting unanimously called out on your shit that you're resorting to this thinly veiled samegayging
lol
I like The Hobbit book, but it always bugged me that the dwarves never had any plan what to do once they get to the mountain. It felt like they were just hoping for Smaug to already be dead. They never even dare to try and confront the dragon. At least the movies to rectify this a bit by putting focus on retrieving the arkenstone to reunite the dwarves.
>mountain gets taken over by dragon >dragons live almost forever unless they’re killed >no report that the dragon has been killed >why is there a dragon in the mountain?
We get it, moron. You have more chromosomes than brain cells. You can fricking off now with your moronic troony opinions already and stop shitting up the thread. We already fricking demolished you already for your embarrassingly stupid fricking dribble you posted earlier, you drooling ape
Then explain what the fine points and brilliance of it is. They know from the very start that there’s a dragon where they are going. Yet they never have even the slightest of plans on how to deal with the dragon. They just get lucky in the end that their camp + Bilbo’s riddle making causes Smaug to attack Laketown in anger.
>literally too braindead to understand the complex genius of having the story be true to life
It’s a fricking kids book, moron. I literally read it when I was fricking 4 and I perfectly understood it. Your troony ass really needs to read more books, moron
>people never go off half wienered on crusades to nowhere without a plan hoping it all turns out in the end >only to get there and instead initiate a bunch of pointless infighting amongst "friends" over who gets all the spoils
It's unironically one of the most true to life things ever written
The dwarves having no plan besides chasing myths and legends only to discover there's still a very much alive dragon in their mountain was one of the best parts, I would bet their actual thought process at the start was "the wizard will get rid of it somehow" kek
The arkenstone shit in the movies was entirely forced and unnecessary, like two-thirds of their runtime.
I wonder how many assblasted sperges in this thread are seething right now that they couldn’t manage to get (You)s for their failed desperate attempt at schadenfreude?
Maybe I'm wrong but I remember that the elf lady's resurrection spell breaks the game. As soon as she learns it she can use it on herself and every time she dies she is reborn with full mana and gets the next move, so she can always immediately use it on herself again, making the player invincible
It's either BfME or RotK
Fpbp
Battle for middle earth probably loses because the 2nd half of the campaign starts to slog hard and has more filler whereas RotK was fun as frick the whole way through
The next best one is probably Third Age (the final fantasy X clone)
More turn based rpg's should have copied the ffx battle system
BfME2 you mean 1 is great but 2 is better.
RotK
I can't decide, but these would be my candidate picks:
Third Age: Total War
Last Days of Third Age
ToME 2.3.5
based Third age Total War and it's numerous successors and submods are great
>all the good guys are white
>T. 400 LB woman
I bet you've been beat up irl
Just like in real life.
Most of them aren't even human so they can't be white, that's a human trait.
>still no mountain climbing simulator
Unironically the movie tie-in games.
I personally recall Two Towers being better because tRotK was all about spamming that one broken move to get the best score.
Two Towers
>recently finished reading the silmarillion, the hobbit, and FotR
>silmarillion was interesting though the chapter of Beren and Luthien was complete dogshit
>the hobbit was actually pretty fricking bad
>the first half of FotR is boring as frick as it takes them forever to get out of the shire and tom bombadil is pure cancer
>second half of FotR really picks up and starts getting exciting
Sure hope TT and RotK are better than FotR and their movie adaptations
why the frick did you read the silmarillion before the trilogy lmao
Someone brought it to work unsolicited to show me how “incomprehensibly impossible” it was to read so I asked to borrow it and read through it while I was doing nothing at my desk. I had no intention of reading the rest of the series but another colleague saw me reading it and got me the hobbit + LotR set for secret santa
damn i hope you appreciate your workplace, such a coworker environment sounds comfy af
I’m in the military so I literally sit on my ass most days barely doing anything. An overwhelming number of people I’m around everyday is either a sociopath, a psychopath, a narcissist, a megalomaniac, or ghetto/trailer park trash. Those two events were just completely coincidental and unusual as most people either treat me like a leper or are extremely passive aggressive with me
Holy frick i have never seen a more succinct and accurate description of daily life in the military. You sit around doing nothing or pointless busywork (i spent a whole day throwing Rosetta Stone Arabic courses into a trash compactor because we didnt need them anymore) until the next HR training that everyone has to do because of something some sociopath, psychopath, megalomaniac, or braindead idiot did.
Second half of FoTR is unironically peak kino
The hobbit is fricking great you troglodyte
It absolutely shits on almost every other kids book you could find in a libraries fiction section
The hobbit was shit. Tolkien repeatedly kept pulling out new contrivances out of his ass the moment they were needed to be relevant to the story and quickly discarding them right afterwards. Also almost everything in the story was as anti-climactic as a wet fart
>Self contained chapters where each has a new and exciting thing for you to read to your kids each night in bite sized chunks is bad
You're a gay and your shits all moronic, every chapter in the book was memorable because of its structure
Go back to tvtropes
>wow we finally got to the mountain after 200 pages, now what?
>oh it looks like we don’t need to worry about the dragon because some literal who killed him with a magic arrow we don’t know about before because a bird told him where to aim, all while we were sitting in a dark cave for several days. how convenient!
>oh boy looks like things are getting tense with the elves, dwarves, and people, I sure hope Thorin stops acting like a complete butthole for no reason
>oh my god goblins are attacking! oops, looks like i got bonked on the head and passed out the entire fight. i sure hope no one died and hand-waved away in a single sentence while i was passed out!
>sup gandalf, where did you go off to anyways? oh you went all the way back to rivendell only to come all the way back here to fight a necromancer in the woods? oh you’re not going to say literally anything else about it? okay, cool i guess
Wow, what spectacular fricking writing. Just because it’s Tolkien doesn’t mean its written in gold, morons
Kek. Holy fricking filtered. If you struggle to follow anything going on in the Hobbit maybe you should stick to See Spot Run.
>hurr durr ur just dumb and didn’t get it!
This is pathetic. You two are absolutely pathetic. You’re probably 90 IQ midwits that think you’re geniuses for reading a book and that’s IF you actually read it and aren’t just brainlessly parroting what you saw on the internet. Quit treating media as a substitute to a personality, you clueless fanboy sperges
you calling anyone a "90 IQ midwit" after that scathing "critique" you just wrote is fricking laughable, my man
>the redditor thinks he's smart because he read tvtropes
Holy dunning krueger
>was introduced to LoTR as a kid by my uncle
>who has read it twelve times and absolutely adores it
>the man is a literal genius IQ with a doctorate in philosophy and can read Latin and Greek with a library larger than many schools.
It's just funny how your assumptions are so hilariously off the mark.
God I miss hyper autists like Tolkien and Terry Pratchett
When I visited my local library recently to study I glanced at the fiction section and my god it was depressing
Thr main book on display was about two gay Muslims in Japan on a race against time to find a cure for the local dragons or some shit, I just can't.
Just go read some old time diary entries or letters home from the front during like WW1 and compare that to now and realize that command of the language and understanding of literature and shit has fallen off so hard. 18 year old farmboys from the trenches writing every single sentence like poetry and modern "writers" making millions off of absolute garbage that would barely be considered pulp.
>18 year old farmboys from the trenches writing every single sentence like poetry and modern "writers" making millions off of absolute garbage that would barely be considered pulp.
Okay, hold up. You understand that tons of people weren't even fricking literate back then right? And you're reading from a cherry-picked selection. Obviously only a handful of letters are going to be found worthy of being preserved 100 years into the future.
I don't even entirely disagree with you point, but it's not "damn, everyone was so smart back then" so much as it's now every moron, homosexual and Black person can spew their textual diarrhea for the entire world to see and have it digitally preserved and archived forever.
No you are factually incorrect, the Average IQ has slipped a great deal in the past 100 years.
Do you legit think that schools didn't exist during WW1? Actual literacy, as in able to read, think and comprehend was probably higher on average than now. "but only shit worthy of being preserved". No man, just go pull up some shitty reports on how many fricking tomatoes the Regiment has in stock somewhere and read it. It's actually fascinating stuff.
There's a WW2 recruiting poster in the officers mess on my base (I never did take a picture of it unfortunately) that goes on about how all thinking men of good conscience can clearly see the importance of joining the army to ensure the defence of Empire, churned out by some clerk at whatever the frick barracks way back when. Compare that to shit like this churned out by an committee of hyper literate mongoloids being sold to a generation of what is theoretically the most literate and educated generation of all time.
Tell me the names of your top 3 favorite books.
>it's not written like Harry Potter so it's bad
Don't go reading the Illiad friend.
>dorkwad applying their tvtropes understanding of fiction and dramatic structure to a hyperautist who sought to single-handedly create his own mythos/legendarium in the same vein as arturian legend or the prose edda
>can't follow or comprehend a book designed for children
lol
Lmao even
Holy shit you managed to piss off a couple of genuine autists. The unique poster counter hasn’t gone up once in the last 12 posts
You are the one that is autistic
>The unique poster counter hasn’t gone up
Well, you're right about that.
have a nice day
I'll give you a (you) for the effort and originality. It has been a good bait.
>anon stirs up a hornet’s nest of autism
And the award for the worst taste in literature goes to *suspenseful pause* this anon! Congratulations!
Perhaps develop some taste you zoomer mongoloid.
He's at least right about the first half of fellowship being shit, the moment they move past Tom bombadil it starts getting good
>setting up the adventure
>running from the nazgul through the shire being written like a horror novel
The vast overwhelming majority of books the beginning is generally pretty boring. Maybe try reading more if you think fellowship is particularly bad.
The problem is that it takes absolutely forever to setup and the good stuff is buried
People roasted the movies for deviating from the books but they got the pacing for fellowship of the ring just right imo
Leaving Tom bombadil and the borders of the shire feels like where the book is finally out of the tutorial so to speak
Tbh I read a lot in high school and then got addicted to videogames, so I haven't touched books in like a decade
Agree
I don't consider the shire a waste, there's a lot of good stuff there and I enjoy the buildup and sense of transition. Sounds mostly like difference in opinion though more than anything.
Unlike this moron sperging out over nothing.
the entirety of Bree was great
No it wasn’t. There was literally no agency because they ended up just spending the night there anyways then leaving in the morning. It was even worse at Weathertop when they literally see the black riders riding up to the base, then they decide to start a fire, eat, then fricking sing a song, only for frodo to get stabbed because they were found. Holy shit that part was fricking stupid
>oh no, there was no agency
This reads like some feminist complaint about sleeping beauty.
>Strider telling them they know they can trust him because if he wanted the ring he would just kill them and take it
Legit top tier writing.
I’m so glad i read those books before I ever set foot on the internet and online games
Hoblets not even once
The mod for Medieval 2 Total War, called The Third Age.
Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor deserves a mention since it makes the Asscreed Ubisoft game formula fun by adding some actual flavor to the content. Too bad WB patented the Nemesis System.
BFME
Conquest
unironically a great game that truly was ahead of its time. imagine it released nowadays where people are already used to stuff like chivalry and mordhau
LOTRO
Dog shit game.
Divide and Conquer for Medieval 2: Total War
Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2
War of the Ring
The Hobbit (2003)
The Fellowship of the Ring (2002
The Two Towers (2002)
Return of the King (2004)
The Two Towers (GBA)
Return of the King (GBA)
The Third Age
The Third Age (GBA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest
War in the North
Lego Lord of the Rings
Why do the hobbits wear such contemporary attire?
Because they're a race of Tolkien self-inserts
theyre supposed to be rural england pre-industrialization
The SNES game was the fricking bane of my childhood.
Sil
1. BFME2
2. BFME
3. Return of the King
4 The Hobbit
I liked War in the North, playing with friends was peak kino. BFME2 is probably the best though
Star trek > lotr
Star Trek doesn't even have anything to do with LotR
Third movie game on PS2 was pretty based. There's also that FFX clone they made for Xbox back in the day that was pretty decent.
Frick EA
Christ what a fricking phenomenal RTS. This and dawn of war, how can squad based RTS be so consistently kino while also being wildly underrepresented?
Too hard for indies to make and not nearly as profitable for large publishers as chasing the flavour of the month
Divide and Conquer: Third Age mod for Total War: Medieval II
>ITT: anons trying way too hard to get a reaction out of someone that made them angry because they disagree with them because he said something mean about something they consider part of their identity
And yet you felt the need to add your two cents like anyone cared. Funny that.
>Projecting
Not everyone takes everything personal.
did you seriously get so fricking butthurt over getting unanimously called out on your shit that you're resorting to this thinly veiled samegayging
lol
I like The Hobbit book, but it always bugged me that the dwarves never had any plan what to do once they get to the mountain. It felt like they were just hoping for Smaug to already be dead. They never even dare to try and confront the dragon. At least the movies to rectify this a bit by putting focus on retrieving the arkenstone to reunite the dwarves.
>moronic moron too stupid to understand a fricking KIDS BOOK
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
>mountain gets taken over by dragon
>dragons live almost forever unless they’re killed
>no report that the dragon has been killed
>why is there a dragon in the mountain?
It was pretty stupid
We get it, moron. You have more chromosomes than brain cells. You can fricking off now with your moronic troony opinions already and stop shitting up the thread. We already fricking demolished you already for your embarrassingly stupid fricking dribble you posted earlier, you drooling ape
Then explain what the fine points and brilliance of it is. They know from the very start that there’s a dragon where they are going. Yet they never have even the slightest of plans on how to deal with the dragon. They just get lucky in the end that their camp + Bilbo’s riddle making causes Smaug to attack Laketown in anger.
>literally too braindead to understand the complex genius of having the story be true to life
It’s a fricking kids book, moron. I literally read it when I was fricking 4 and I perfectly understood it. Your troony ass really needs to read more books, moron
If we explained it to your moronic ass you wouldn’t understand it, you are a pseudo-intellectual reddit type moron.
DON’T reply to them
>people never go off half wienered on crusades to nowhere without a plan hoping it all turns out in the end
>only to get there and instead initiate a bunch of pointless infighting amongst "friends" over who gets all the spoils
It's unironically one of the most true to life things ever written
The dwarves having no plan besides chasing myths and legends only to discover there's still a very much alive dragon in their mountain was one of the best parts, I would bet their actual thought process at the start was "the wizard will get rid of it somehow" kek
The arkenstone shit in the movies was entirely forced and unnecessary, like two-thirds of their runtime.
Jesus are you genuinely moronic or something, did you not understand the dwarves motivations? Jesus anon....
So I just finished watching Lord of the Rings and the cast is all white???
WTF how did Blackrock let this happen?
This is very problematic
Orcs are people too!
Abandon thread!
Autism meltdown!!!
This is not a drill!
I wonder how many assblasted sperges in this thread are seething right now that they couldn’t manage to get (You)s for their failed desperate attempt at schadenfreude?
That beat em up game that i played as a kid
Couldn't beat it tho
Was afraid of that spider level
Maybe I'm wrong but I remember that the elf lady's resurrection spell breaks the game. As soon as she learns it she can use it on herself and every time she dies she is reborn with full mana and gets the next move, so she can always immediately use it on herself again, making the player invincible
It was more that Loudwater Fury in late game could almost 1shot even bosses
But overall it was a very competent ffx clone and I can't think of any others
War in the North is a gem if you can get you hands on it.
WitN