When did this become such a controversial stance?
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How do I know if I don't like the game if I don't buy it to play it?
>Chef takes a massive shit on your plate
>smells like shit
>so smelly the fumes make you gag
>HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HOW WILL I KNOW THIS LITERAL SHIT IS BAD IF I DON'T EAT IT FIRST???????????????
Tell that to the people who vehemently defend a game, despite having no words to describe it. You call a plate of perceived shit what it is, and all they do is say
>WELL YOU HAVEN'T TASTED IT
and when you ask what it tasted like, they have no response. On a completely unrelates note; what did you guys think of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth? It totally doesn't look like dogshit and I'm thinking of buying it, along with Remake (again) and emailing Square to see if I can go ahead and pre-purchase five copies of Part Three Deluxe Anniversary Multiversal Infinity No One's Ever Really Gone Edition.
Maybe that anon likes scatology and judges the shit going by the texture, water volume, content of the shit and after taste.
Like no joke, a guy on Ganker was telling us all about who he actually liked to eat literal shit and told us all about it, the chalkiness for example.
Fricking kek.
Do you have the thread/archive?
I could not tell if the guy was fricking with us so I did not take a screencap, I think I might have to check through all my stuff, but he was rather descriptive like I would not know if the texture of shit is chalky when digested and called us a bunch of prude normies.
>food analogy
The thing is it all boils down to tribalism. Ganker and the sides they hate, and the sides that hate both of them or agree with them or somewhat resemble them all think like pic related. They will never be sincere about anything, it all has to boil down to winning imaginary wars over surface-level issues or politics. And if you point that out they just offer half-assed retorts that prove the point.
Or its just dead-internet-theory and bots and their makers manufacturing conflict.
no you are thinking of reddit, this entire website roasted undertale while simultaniously playing it and admitting it was great because we all formed our own opinions. then tourists show up who have been poisoned by consensus thinking and brought that attitude here. this is why Ganker continues to exist and why no matter how much astroturfing glowBlack folk cant seem to break this site. It's because A: its a containment site for people whoi don't do consensus thinking, and B: people who don't do consensus thinking cant be shamed into changing their opinion just because someone else doesn't like something.
>order a nice pasta
>image on the menu looks fantastic
>have had pasta before and generally like it
>store has rave reviews from critics
>order the pasta
>pay for it upfront
>waiter brings it out
>it’s literally a pile of shit on a plate
Fixed your analogy frickstick.
Blame the critics then
god I hate the "eating shit" analogy. it's the most ego-fueled analogy to ever exist
The people who use it unironically have missed hundreds upon hundreds of gems because they honestly believe they're good enough to judge a book by the cover.
What if I want that for fertilizer, homosexual?
This poster is so far gone that this constituted as a food analogy to him as he was typing it up btw.
Literal dung eater mentality.
If you're someone posting on Ganker and cant accurately tell if you'll like a game or not in most cases then you might be moronic
demo
there used to be these things called demos
idk if they still do that anymore
Only good games do.
I recall I played the Trials of Mana demo and enjoyed it so much I went out and bought the whole game. Finished all 3 endings and overall liked it so much now I can't wait for Visions.
Come all ye young fellows who follow the sea
(To me!) Wey hey, blow the man down
And pray pay attention and listen to me
Give me some time to blow the man down
That's the cool part.
You can't say anything bad about the game unless you've played it, but making the decision to buy it at full price before it even comes out is perfectly fine. And you still can't criticize it until you're way past the 2h refund window either, because it only gets good 10 hours in!
But if you just know you don't like it then don't buy it. But if you don't buy it you're an anti-semite, so buy it anyway.
Why do so many people look to form an option on a game they haven't played in the first place?
Why is it so ridiculous to just not say anything about something you are entirely ignorant about? I just find it weird there are so many people that feel they absolutely must spew something about every single game no matter if they haven't played it or not.
Because they like being angry and having pointless arguments.
I can learn enough from watching gameplay to spew facts and logic every time. I don't need to be the one to eat the shit sandwich in order to find out that it tastes like shit.
so if i buy it and sink 10 hours im fine to say it stinks?
You just develop the ability to tell from a glance.
You see, trailers and preview show everything you need to know if a game will be good or bad.
If you were moronic enough to fall for the hype train, you're the problem.
>How do I know if I don't like the game if I don't buy it to play it?
Just watch a stream. Typically game developers also show introduction gameplay to line out the premise and features.
Most games are not even worth the data stored. Just preserve your storage drives and watch a stream instead.
Same way everyone with a brain does it, look at clips, who is recommending it and that's it. Saw this Stellar Blade webm and the only stellar thing about that game is how much input lag there is, I already had a hunch it was shit but just a random clip online confirmed it, most other bad games are even easier to discard.
By having a general taste and understanding of what you like and dislike in a game
If you don't like my post don't respond to it. It's that simple.
When the ESG kicked in and they screech at you for boycotting
it became such a controversial stance that ESG was invented so that people who don't buy games would be forced to pay through taxes. They dont want you to know this. dont want information to spread, they want morons like you gays thinking ESG means theyre salty that people aren't buying their games but that's not really true, they just print the money and make you pay for it. then they produce the game.
People who decide to not buy a game are often outnumbered by morons who will buy it and then brag about it
People can play with feces if they want, I have a bigger beef with people that tell everyone to stop having fun for reasons that have nothing to do with the gameplay.
For example BG3. I think it is shit because it pales in comparison to Neverwinter Nights and it is only high up because people have a porn addiction and easily overlook the half assed animations for anything but the sex scenes, the 2000s era FX stock library used for attacks and relying on lesser known D&D enemies to subvert your expectations catering to the modern D&D hipsters that consider wizards and dragons passé
But I won't go to their threads and shit on them for it.
Similarly there are too many groups shitting on games over their social justice bullshit whether it is the preservation homosexualry or people in favor or against SBI.
Meanwhile the indie space is growing with titles that are just fricking fantastic and no one talks about it. Pretty much everyone is slave to impotent anger and take it on games. Why the frick this entertainment branch attracts these many schizos?
>Neverwinter Nights
>A half-assed tech demo for the Aurora Toolset
>In 3rd Edition
>>A half-assed tech demo for the Aurora Toolset
And still launched with a level editor and ways to make your custom campaigns, an online module for PVE and PVP and the capability to host your own server.
And it costed a fraction of BG3 development. How embarrassing for Larian
I played a solid 2-3 years of NWN and thats exactly correct. Aurora was the scam of a century. unbelievable how much effort and work goes into nwn's haks and yet the base engine is almost unplayably broken.
>Meanwhile the indie space is growing with titles that are just fricking fantastic
Name some that are not pizza tower. Indie games peaked like a decade ago and have been whoring themselves ever since.
Isaac
Nuclear Throne
Enter the Gungeon
Dont Starve
Cult of the Lamb
Terraria
Trepang2
Ion Fury
Ultrakill
Turbo Overkill
Subnautica
Divers
Project Zomboid
Hotshots Racing
Hades
Timberborn
Pretty much the entire BR genre is indie.
My position is that AAA game are the worst and they stopped being innovative a long time ago.
From AAA I can only name like 3 good games from the past 4 years and 3 are from the same Publisher.
Games below that category are still fun like Ghost and Goblins or High Fi Rush.
AAA games need to make the return for a budget that is often in the tens of millions so they are less risky and much more safe and boring.
not that anon, but commercial indie roguelikes (actual ones, not real time dungeon crawlers with puddle-deep mechanics) have some gems. cogmind, rift wizard and caves of qud are all incredibly fun to play, have better interfaces than most community driven roguelikes and offer unique takes on the genre.
Nothing new there. Voting with your wallet has always been a bad meme.
It'd probably be best to go to socials and tell people the game sucks ass. Since you only have one wallet, one vote. But the people you could potentially influence, is many more.
I MUST CONSUME
Battlefield V. Devs realized what happens if we actually listen to them.
>When did this become such a controversial stance?
You mean basic common sense? Why do you think that is controversial?
look at the catalog and ask me that again
Because being an opiniated piece of shit for clout is a gig these days and shouting your moronic opinion on what games should be is not controversial enough to get you cancelled like let's say taking a stance on immigration but it is serviceable.
I think white immigrants need to frick off back to their white islands.
When games stopped letting you find out whether you'd like something before you bought it.
Demos would fix the problem immediately.
Because busybody homosexuals that want to wage some sort if ideological warfare are obsessed with how other people spend their money. Their insecurity about their own perspective compels them to browbeat anyone that has dissimilar values or desires. They truly believe that the more people that agree with them the more correct they are. In other words they're militant sheep.
>In other words they're militant sheep.
Often happens when a eceleb says something and rarely anyone has the balls to say you are wrong.
If the game hits certain progressive talking points then you are obligated to play it other wise you're a racist chud.
But I'm not buying tho
When It became clear voting with your wallet was a bad faith spook pushed by corpo-bootlickers who assert that every consumer is informed and responsible
but voting with your wallet just means that if you buy a game they will make more games like that, not that games will stop being made if you personally don't buy them
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
>if you don't like shitting on the streets then just don't shit on the streets, ok chud?
>proceeds to take a huge dump on the sidewalk right in front of you
when they started taking established franchises with distinct styles, features and genres and turning them into mass appeal slop
you're only one guy, you don't matter
why do you care so much?
they already made billions
i'm buying two copies just to spite you
Those who do not address the elephant in the room will eventually be buried in its shit.
Woke developers are trying to train/reduce entire generations of gamers into accepting ideologically grotesque slop of the lowest possible quality, and with the most predator practices. The more that this is allowed to continue unchecked, the more the market swings in that direction, and what you value, if you have any taste at all, will be destroyed.
It is necessary to fight. It has always been necessary, and it will always be necessary. If you feel any sort of passion or love for anything, you must VALUE IT, and the only way to protect what one values is to fight for it tooth and nail.
Sit on the fence, ignore the zombies, ignore the wholesale destruction of every industry at your peril. Inaction, indifference and willful ignorance are not righteous virtues, they are lazy coping mechanisms for slaves.
How does b***hing about it on messageboards do more to fight it than just not buying the products? Do you think devs are browsing Ganker to see what we think of their new crossdressing simulator?
Game dev here, yes. I come here specifically to compile people's grievances with the various facets of other games and take them under consideration. It's called respecting your audience.
fomo and peer pressure
If I don't buy your game then I should want it to fail, which is not always the case.
Because then "socially conscious investors" will invest in it making seem like it's important and buy it up and then morons will follow the "trend" and get it. Then they will make new games that nobody wants shutting out the games that people do want.
It's the same reason that every politician has a book deal and they are always best sellers. It has nothing to do with what avid reader want, and these games have nothing to with what avid gamers want.
Really funny how Ganker went from abusing this argument to being to being abused by it
When gaming companies understood that few whales + esg money is enough to ignore "wallet voters". Gaming studios don't care if (you) buy the game, they get (your) money from the taxes(you) pay. They already saw what happened with animation, where western style cartoons were completely BTFO by anime, they don't want don't want to lose another propaganda outlet.
When fricking homosexual FOMO consoomer Black folk started playing games.
When everyone realized that "voting with your wallet" doesn't do anything to stop companies from blatantly breaking the law and scamming it's customers.
>bruh you haven't even pla-
>[FOOD ANALOGY]
>fr bruh?? just dont buy it then
>[POLITICS]
> skibidi stan ur not the demographic ong
>[RECESSION , SHAREHOLDER RISK]
>b-bruh please buy our game pls rizzle my gyatt
When zoomers decided that video game developers exist to give them exactly what they want, even if they at no point in development claimed that that was what the game was aiming to be.
Also nice trips.
Literal children enabling bad business practices by being psychologically incapable of caring about what they buy have created a situation where the only solution to fix video games is government intervention.
StopKillingGames.Com
When Ganker became neo/v/
It’s said by idiots who don’t know how the video game industry works (actually thinks voting with your wallet works and thinks you pay after you try) and wants criticism of game to be nullified.
It's obvious isn't it? They want your money and if you do things like boycott or say you don't want to buy it, then they seethe to the high heavens. Then later they blame low sales on you not buying it.
It's all a campaign to get YOUR MONEY.
Because then if people still shit on it without playing it you homosexuals will just complain that they didn't even try the game before criticizing it.
What if, you just ignore those homosexuals.
I know it's radical.
I'm just saying that you'd complain regardless
probably sometime after streaming became normalized, now we have a bunch of npcs who dont actually play anything who think watching someone play it and parroting their take is a valid opinion, and sadly they outnumber us
The problem isn't that it's controversial. The problem is that it's hypocritical.
>Don't like it? Don't buy it
Okay then
>NOOOOOOOO WHY DIDNT YOU BUY THIS GAME YOU FRICKING BIGOT SHITLORD RACIST ETC ETC ETC
but you just sai-
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
how did things get this bad?
You know how.
funny you say this when Ganker does the exact same thing
Who is saying that to you? I've not-bought millions of things and no one has said a word to me about it.
No one is doing this to (You), schizo
Pure fantasy. I've never been called a bigot for not buying something.
see
dumb glowBlack person. stop printing trillions to fund gayops that we dont want to pay for.
>ESG
>created because video games
0/10 made me reply
>THIS 9 TRILLION DOLLAR ORGANIZATION
>DONATES TO MORE THAN ONE INDUSTRY?!
>-6000000/israelite made me reply
kys glowBlack person
Nice try
It's even worse than this. Now it's if you don't watch or listen or get into something either.
This world has gone full clown.
Who exactly is screaming at you for not watching a TV show or movie?
Remind me never to visit Ganker or Ganker
literally battlefield 5
lol
lmao
zoomers and Europeans who I guess are just proto zoomers
How do you know if the game is good if you dont buy it and play it. Are you a moron that listen to these schizo idiots. Who falls for that shit?
When chuds started having mental breakdowns about the "culture war"
Because it doesn't work anymore, the industry has become cartelized.
current year aaa slop isnt the only thing on the market. buy the few things you get excited about from studios you have faith in, buy the rare gems that come out of shitty studios a couple weeks after launch if they seem good, pirate older games you find enjoyable. nobody is limiting you to the small subset of games that take up 90% of jornos minds or forcing you to buy a certain amount of new games each year.
Can we get a version of this that says "if you didn't play the game, don't whine about it!"
Are (You) saying (You) don't want to mindlessly CONSOOOOOOOOOME!?!?!?
You must be a woke, schizo, liberal, soiboi, commie, socialist, virgin, troony, queer israelite!!!!
Every fricking time
This always fricking happens and I'm already sick of it
What happened why are things like this now
It's okay to hate.
I hear it makes you powerful.
>care about the series/concept but critical of the decisions made by the developers or higher ups
>"just don't say anything about it"
I have autism and am incapable of ignoring things I don't like.
If a game doesn't play the way I like, I have the right to yell at developers and modders until somebody turns it into the game I want.
How many times has that worked, anon?
When games that sold millions started affecting trends, conventions and business practices for every other game.
this
The general public would fuel things regardless of how people treated it, no matter what effect it was having on the rest of the industry, so people thought that "vote with your wallet" didn't work.
But now we're coming out of the tunnel and the general public is becoming weary, they're starting to vote with their wallets too, and as a result many bad developers have shut down due to not making any money.
The shitty publishers making all the garbage happen are getting scared, they're starting to beat their customers more and as a result they're gradually losing more customers over time. Eventually they too will shut down.
When even a piece of shit like diablo 4, that got awful user reviews EVERYWHERE sells 10 million copies, you kinda wonder how voting with your wallet works.
Poorly in the case of Blizzardgays. Battered housewives to the core.
Incredibly gap in logic with the way games are obtained.
JOHN MADDEN
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JOHN MADDEN
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JOHN MADDEN
KILLER TOFU
When people turned games into culture wars.
Because that stance is racist and misogynistic. If you only buy games you like you will almost exclusively buy games made by white and asian men.
Yes.
It happened when Ganker joined Jimina Sterling on a crusade against loot boxes.
if you don't like a game, you should complain to the government to make it illegal for you to play it (having enough self awareness to avoid consooming garbage is a trait only "shills" possess, apparently)
Yes, people should be legally barred from liking things I don't like.
yes shill, poor company practices should be stopped
why do underage zoomies keep parroting words they don't know the meaning of?
why do you like taking corporate dick up the ass shill
>dont like gacha
>dont buy or play gacha
>SquareEnix keeps making Gacha anyway
>homosexuals in Japan and China keep buying Gacha, nobody shames them
>after a 20 years hiatus FFTactics comes back
>it's gacha, utterly worthless autoplay P2W garbage with no redeeming qualities other than the art
this is why
we don't live in a vacuum
so just don't buy those games
We only get like 2 good games a year so if one isn't good, then you have to wait 6 months for maybe a good one to come out.
Because it's coupled with the argument "You can't criticise the game because you haven't played it", so basically you can't criticise it without playing it, and you can't criticise it once you have because you bought it. If you mention you pirated it, they shift focus to how you're evil for stealing money from the poor starving devs.
So it's controversial because it's part of a labyrinth of conditional arguments intended to remove your position entirely without actually engaging with it.
>"You can't criticise the game because you haven't played it",
Sounds completely resonable to me.
Case in point
>vote with your wallet! Dont buy it!
Because it doesnt fricking work.
Like piracy has already shown us, a lost sale is not a negative sale. Almost everyone wants fentanyl off the street but there's still a high demand so it sticks around. As long as there is a minority supporting trash it sticks around and spreads its sickness. Ignoring it fixes nothing. Some things simply need to be destroyed
You're either unhinged or glow hard
>Voting with your wallet doesn't work
Yeah, and i'm sure these studio closures and record breaking layoffs are completely unrelated huh, it's not like even normalgays are sick of the progressively shittier slop companies are trying to pass off as games that they are starting to walk off.
Not cumsooming shit? What are you? Poor?
Corporations brainwashed morons into thinking you're not allowed to not buy stuff.
Same reason they can't drive a car over 5 years old.
>dont like the game
>dont buy it
>my franchise is still ruined by its existence
>narrative ruined
>community discourse ruined
>merchandise ruined
Solves little
the problem is morons bringing that up whenever you bring up a bad thing about the game
rdr2's prologue is boring as frick and the game is slow at times, but does that mean I shouldn't buy it?