When did you decide?

To become his most loyal lieutenant?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I found out he's basically directly responsible for the existence of most of the kick ass robots in the setting.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I whacked him with a golf club.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn't sound loyal to me, my guy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you're right I'm sorry.
        Oh I know it was when I let the Brotherhood live!

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >most loyal lieutenant
    probably one of the lowest bars ever since nearly everyone either doesn't know him, doesn't trust him or is actively conspiring against him

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The daddy issues choice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A few minutes after he told me to go kill Benny and then hand myself over to Caesar. I liked the way he was thinking.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >working for someone who looks like a shriveled up penis
    Never ever

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I realized that he was the best chance for Humanity to finally overcome its apocalyptic reality and strive for the stars.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I killed him like a b***h for being a lame Andrew Ryan wannabe.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When he advertised the prospect of a refined version of immortality and interplanetary space travel, all for the low cost of nuking those Brotherhood homosexuals

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When he asked me to wipe out the Black personhood but I already nuked those clowns long ago.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When he advertised the prospect of a refined version of immortality and interplanetary space travel, all for the low cost of nuking those Brotherhood homosexuals

      basado

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After I played through every other main faction of the game beforehand. Years later I realize I just saved the best for last.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing performance and engaging writing but I've never done a House playthrough and I don't think I ever will. It's just hard to muster up enthusiasm for a guy who treats you like a dumb butthole no matter how well you perform. He works better as a villain and a lightningrod for hate than a legitimate faction leader to obey.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He got owned by Benny. He sucks.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    any feeling of regret over killing him is washed away once I get his obituary message. what a fricking prick

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you're working for someone? lmao cuck

    t. that guy who thinks he will be the squad leader in the SHTF

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >That’s why you need to help him
    Told me I had to kill a bunch of people I was friendly with and refused to budge on the issue. Is it any wonder no one is loyal to him?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Told me I had to kill a bunch of people I was friendly with and refused to budge on the issue.

      because he is a long-term planner and has objectively put more thought into everything than you have. just because you can kill him and everyone in the game doesn't mean you're right.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it does

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he is a long-term planner
        who ends up needing someone else to accomplish his goals. If he truly was a long term planner he'd develop some loyalty in the people he works with.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You cant expect tribals to be loyal just because you teached them manners anon...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And you expect a random fricking mailman to be loyal?
            No wonder Vegas gets nuked

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              todd slop isn't canon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Says the guy talking about a spin off

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not a spin off. It's the last game in the series.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Annnnd the cope begins

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't care lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ERMM. .. . .. ACKTUALLY I DONT CARE SO IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL ! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !
                Classic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So go eat your algo slop if you like it so much. Unless of course you were caught in a pump n dump and now that its dumping reality is setting in.

                but you're too smart to fall for such a thing, right?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And that's the point. Instead of finding people he can put his trust in he allies with whoever is most convenient at the time and tries to wing it. Then when I come along and I'm actually invested in helping accomplish his goals he forces me to choose between himself and people that have graciously accepted me as a friend by telling me to kill them. Easy choice IMO.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The brotherhood isn't your friend. They will kill you like they tried to Veronica and she was an actual member, not some outsider larping as one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The brotherhood isn't your friend
                They never asked me to kill their perceived enemies even though I'm on friendly terms with the NCR as well
                >They will kill you like they tried to Veronica
                The violent minority of dissenters got BTFO when they tried and no one else had a problem with me

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >people that have graciously accepted me as a friend
              They banned all menbers who happened to be outside of the bunker when the lockdown was set and they either put a bomb collar on you if you find them or try to kill you and one of their own if you dare try to show a different perspective for the elder, don't even get me started on the backstabbing drama of Hardin and the moronation that the chain that binds is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They banned all menbers who happened to be outside of the bunker when the lockdown was set
                Yet Veronica comes and goes to get supplies
                >they either put a bomb collar on you if you find them
                they could have just killed me then and there but they didn't and once you help them get the NCR to leave they take it off
                >or try to kill you and one of their own if you dare try to show a different perspective for the elder
                which is what, exactly?
                >don't even get me started on the backstabbing drama of Hardin and the moronation that the chain that binds is
                Then don't do the quest in his favor? That's what I decided on once I learned more about him and the situation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yet Veronica comes and goes to get supplies
                They specifically tell you once asked that the situations with her is different because she gets out to bring them supplies (she is undercover) besides she wasnt outside when the lockdown was set since she was little when the whole Helios one fiasco happened
                >they could have just killed me then and there but they didn't and once you help them get the NCR to leave they take it off
                Game logic, you can't kill the player character and potentially have them locked in a death loop incase they havent made a save before the bomb collar was placed
                >which is what, exactly?
                Veronica's personal quest, if you give them the data about the food development from vault 22, they are only insterested in tech about weapons not ones that can help them and others
                >Then don't do the quest in his favor
                You don't need to do the quest for him to want to backstab the Elder and the chain that binds to exist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the situations with her is different
                what about the recon teams you're supposed to verify the status of?
                >Game logic
                I can only go off of what the game gives me. Maybe you should point your criticism at the writers?
                >Veronica's personal quest
                a handful of violent dissenters don't represent the entire faction. If they all had a problem with it then why does nothing else happen if that small handful gets dealt with?
                >You don't need to do the quest for him to want to backstab the Elder and the chain that binds to exist
                So what happens after you do the quest in favor of McNamara then?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what about the recon teams you're supposed to verify the status of?
                He sent them to gather information meaning they were not outside when the lockdown was set wich mind you isnt a recent thing
                >I can only go off of what the game gives me. Maybe you should point your criticism at the writers
                Fair
                >If they all had a problem with it then why does nothing else happen if that small handful gets dealt with
                Did you even play the game? Veronica even tells you (in the scenario that she stays with the brotherhood) that no one seen what happened (you and her killing them) and if we take game logic away they probably couldnt link their disappearance to you and Veronica since they got out without the elder's approval and he would not sent more people to potentially be killed by the NCR (wich at this point in the questline they still fear) just to look for a group that violated the lockdown
                >So what happens after you do the quest in favor of McNamara then?
                Nothing, the questline ends and Hardin gets one of the things we wanted (the lockdown being lifted) but lets be fair even if he managed to get his hands on the information about the chain that binds at this point no one would support him since it would boil down to "i want to be elder" instead of "i want to be elder to lift the lockdown"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He sent them to gather information meaning they were not outside when the lockdown was set
                Were they going to be let back in?
                >if we take game logic away
                again, writing issue, go talk to the devs
                >Nothing, the questline ends and Hardin gets one of the things we wanted (the lockdown being lifted)
                >but lets be fair even if he managed to get his hands on the information about the chain that binds at this point no one would support him since it would boil down to "i want to be elder" instead of "i want to be elder to lift the lockdown"
                To me this was a success, because it further shows that the Brotherhood's codex is flawed which is what Veronica is trying to show to her fellow members and McNamara is slowly having to come to grips with. A hardliner like Hardin would get his way and likely have the Mojave BoS slowly destroyed trying to adhere to the codex IMO.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >teached

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's a shut in just like me frfr

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he'd develop some loyalty in the people he works with
          House has great loyalty towards those who work for him. He saves your life, guides you all the way to novac, compensates you fairly, satiates your desire for revenge, gives you arguably the best apartment in new Vegas, allows you to come and go freely from his casino who he has never opened before for anyone ever, congratulates you, and most importantly he is very likely to grant you immortality. He is the only faction leader truly loyal to you, as it is heavily implied that yes man will betray you once his AI goes rogue.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >House has great loyalty towards those who work for him
            The problem is he's great at fostering disloyalty in those that work for him, like the three families, Benny and the Courier depending on who is playing them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              only benny and a chunk of the omerates don't like him. 2/3 is pretty good tbh.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And it's more than enough for House to have to rely on the Courier to fix everything for him

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He’s a man in a stasis chamber anon, what can you expect? He does the best he can with what he’s given. He plans ahead, which is more than all the other factions can say. That’s why you need to become his lieutenant, so you can solve problems for him on the ground.

              When I decided he could provide a better future than the other factions.

              Based

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He plans ahead, which is more than all the other factions can say
                Disagree. The NCR and Legion both have way more hold and sway in surrounding areas and being pitted against each other is the only thing keeping House from being targeted.
                >That’s why you need to become his lieutenant, so you can solve problems for him on the ground
                He had his chance and made me choose between being a contracted killer or resolving everyone's issues amicably

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He had his chance and made me choose between being a contracted killer or resolving everyone's issues amicably
                The only faction he doesnt give you the option to make a truce with is with the tards of steel tho

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I could at least reason with them. House refuses to hear out the fact that I managed to get along with them and could even broker a ceasefire between them and the NCR.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The problem is he's great at fostering disloyalty in those that work for him
              How?
              >"excuse me dirt people. I need someone to run these extremely lucrative buisnesses for me. You get to make money, and youll never go hungry or thirsty again. Just dont frick me."
              >cannot help themselves but try to frick him
              This is houses fault? Youre going to tell me him being demanding or snarky eould push anyone over the line? You dont kill the golden goose my man.
              In fact Id go so far as to say the reason he may have fostered betrayal is simply because he left the fsmilies to their own devices too much. Benny is a walking example of the Chinese proverb
              >the mountains are high and the emporer is away

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How?
                By letting people think that him being in charge is not to theirs or anyone else's best interest.
                >This is houses fault?
                Yes, because despite what you claim is in their benefit, they either don't trust him or it's not enough for them, showing that he either has bad judgement about people, no backup plan for when unreliable allies betray him or both.
                >In fact Id go so far as to say the reason he may have fostered betrayal is simply because he left the fsmilies to their own devices too much
                case in point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But youre aware how his back is against the wall, what choice does he have. Plus none of that matters, he already agreed to the families running the casinos, he honors his contracts. If he doesnt trust them after a while he sends you to find violations of the terms instead of killing them or booting them on the spot. If they dont trust House as a leader, they can just walk away, but the don't. All the families are at worst greedy and at best content. Maybe when he restores some of his power and abilities, micromanaging the families becomes all the easier but as long as they make him money and things go smooth he doesnt really have a reason to be suspicious, in which case that makes him a pretty cool and chill boss. So the reason he fosters disloyalty is because he isn't being a dick?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >youre aware how his back is against the wall, what choice does he have
                Correct, so why alienate the one person who is willing to do what you want by demanding that they genocide a group of people they've made peace with?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What benefit the brotherhood of steel brings to the mojave?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        allies with similar goals

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The world has no use for emotionally unstable techno-fetishists

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's House though. See what happens if you decline to hand over the chip.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wouldnt you do the same if your mailman refused to deliver and tried to ransom the one of a kind thing that you paid for and thus belong to you inside your own property? He is even polite enough to give you a second chance to deliver it after you pissed him off instead of having you executed on the spot by his securitrons

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I was House I wouldn't throw a baby tantrum before annihilating them, I'd just give them a chance to change their mind and then waste them if they didn't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can agree with you on that but i understand his frustation with the situation, 200 years of waiting just for some mailman walk-the-wastelands-frick with delusions of power to pull that bullshit on you for caps

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Big difference between a device that can provide the power to keep the imperialist NCR and Caesar’s legion out of the Mojave, and a laser rifle some scavenger managed to acquire before reaching a brotherhood checkpoint. Also it’s Mr House’s property, BOS requisitions tech that isn’t there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just because you’re friendly with a faction doesn’t mean they’ll be good long term. Go to the BOS bunker without Veronica and you’ll be enslaved. They turn into raiders of technology should they be allowed to surface. Every factions wants them gone. In short, they need to go.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Go to the BOS bunker without Veronica and you’ll be enslaved
        This is what happened to me on my first playthrough. They asked me to get an NCR Ranger off their porch so I did, non-violently even, and they took off the bomb collar.
        >They turn into raiders of technology should they be allowed to surface
        Not if you broker peace between them and the NCR

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Homie is cool with getting enslaved if it eventually gets him power armor lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, they could have just killed me but they didn't and all they did was ask me to get a NCR Ranger to leave, which was easy and required no unwarranted violence on my part

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah because they’re desperate for help. If they “could have just killed you” why the bomb collar for insurance?

              >He plans ahead, which is more than all the other factions can say
              Disagree. The NCR and Legion both have way more hold and sway in surrounding areas and being pitted against each other is the only thing keeping House from being targeted.
              >That’s why you need to become his lieutenant, so you can solve problems for him on the ground
              He had his chance and made me choose between being a contracted killer or resolving everyone's issues amicably

              Anon a raider group in power armor like the BOS would never tolerate his rule. There are not one one but TWO instances in which they will strap a bomb collar to your neck in order to get you to do what they want, the other being Elijah at the Sierra madre. They try to kill you and Veronica both if she even attempts to join the followers of the apocalypse. They need to go, as House says they are a terrorist group, one which has no problem murdering and instilling fear in order to get the technology the covet. House knows this best of all being that he was alive before the war and as such has context for how depraved and silly they are. They need to go.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When he increased my payment to get the chip back and thus giving me more of a reason to get my revenge agaisnt that F.R.I.E.N.D.S son of a b***h

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Most smartest and successful person in NV
    >Can't lock the fricking door so you don't go and kill him
    Explain this to me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buggy game (unironically).
      You were supposed to only be able to unlock his chamber if you had both the Platnium Chip, and at least one of the Lucky 38 VIP cards you find in either Camp Golf or HnH Tools.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never.
    I've always hated humans that require machines to live and/or use machines to extend their fragile lifespan way past its expiration date.
    When I found out about the "real" Mr. House, I promptly opened up his little chamber and slaughtered him.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I decided he could provide a better future than the other factions.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was his only employee. It just felt cool being the one lone badass doing his work.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I decided that I'd like to have his stuff
    >b-but the future of the wasteland
    Don't care lol, Vegas is my kingdom now

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ncr is a bloated, corrupt replication of what doomed the world in the first place, will reward your loyalty with a pat on the ass and taxes
    >legion is full of nutcases who will ram a spear down your throat for the slightest infraction
    >yes man would be a logistical nightmare even if you're able to quell the ensuing chaos, not to mention leaves you vulnerable to another faction in the future
    >house lets you chill out in his penthouse suite and gamble to your heart's content, only asks you to sometimes put the fear of God into some belligerents
    Real tough choice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >real tough choice
      For reddit this is actually a tough choice, but they also support the war in Ukraine so

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did yes man bc I kneel to no one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And howd that turn out for you?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like his no nonsense attitude. He also has a stellar track record.
    >Turned some old company into a billion dollar industry
    >Successfully predicted the end of the world down to the day.
    >Created medical machines that can keep a person alive and sane for centuries, probably with no help from big mt because 8 clearly hates him.
    >Successfully defended vegas from the literal end of the world, would have saved even more if the platinum chip arrived on time
    >Created a robot army to defend vegas
    >Has a vision for the future and a clear path to achieving it

    Honestly, anyone who doesn't side with house is out of their mind. The wild card ending has some merit, but house is obviously the superior choice.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right away.

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