When does Genshin's story get good
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We will be reunited. Sakura cleansing ritual.
sakura cleansing ritual was truly the turning point for WQs
Best of Genshit story is exclusive to rule34
After you give Paimon a hug
>Playing a gacha game
>For the story
Never gonna make it
But I play genshin for the story. Can't wait for Natlan.
But that's every genshintard argument when you ask for a skip button.
>Why are you playing it if you don't want to read the story?
>Memespouting moron
>valid opinion
It's obvious you picked only one of these.
In Natlan
It genuinely never gets good. It is a game for children.
when aether and loom are naked
Don't listen to morons. World quests are kino. Inazuma puzzles are high IQ.
>Start up Genshin
>Do some quest with a wolf boy
>It's over
I genuinely have no idea what happened.
Yeah, they really didn't do a good enough job to convey "No, you fricking stay out of this." It didn't help that the quest was written before Rifthounds actually existed in the game. You'll actually find them north of that arena now.
Long story short, Mihoyo wanted to give the players a second weekly boss at launch, but didn't have enough time to make a whole questline about it like they did for Dvalin.
Sumeru
Excuse me?
Sumeru is when it gets pretty good. Wanderer's boss fight is great.
Closest there is to a good story in Genshin are the Dainsleif chapters since the actually pertain to the MC's goal
When you reach adventure rank 10, you fricking moron.
>Want to re-experience Mondstat
>No new game+
make an alt acct
>skip new area story slop
>get my snacks ready for interlude chapters to see what the frick happened with the sister
it feels like it was rewritten a few times, there's big stuff revealed out of left field every time.
I also like the lore and vibe of the underwater area in purple continent, but again it was shitload of cryptic lore dump out of left field, some fricking gods, how do they connect to surface gods? Idk
Only certain parts of the story are actually any good. The rest is just endless endless endless filler casual conversation you can't skip.
For every dramatic part where Fontaine is saved, or Fischl confronts her inner edginess, or Albedo is a clone but also a flower wait no he's the real one maybe or is he the evil clone dunnolol, you have about 20 hours of wordswordswordswords. No, I don't care if Paimon is hungry and there's poorly-translated joke and oh look it's Mona who is on vacation here and she's met Navia and they're talking about food again, I want the actual stories.
Legitimately, even if you fricking love that nothing-happens VN stuff there is no way you can still be entertained by it after 200 hours of this shit.
they will have to add a skip button at some point, at least for the early quest and stories if they want nee players to catch up.
half of those parts are limited events that will never get rerun btw.
>Get to the Doctor meeting scene
No jab intended, but is this intended for kids? Like, 10 year olds.
Yes, unironically. Genshin is made for "all ages," which means the content must be suitable for 10-year-olds.
Who the FRICK is vinster king?
*vine star king
it's logan paul
>chink gacha
>story
Whenever there's a new big patch dropping I try to give the story another shot but it's been so dull and uninteresting that I end up skipping through at some point.
Just play it for the exploration and treat the story as a way to earn primogems. Sticking through it is not worth the time.
The story still doesn't really make me care that much about the Traveler's sibling. Like I can sympathize with their desire to reunite with their sibling, but they appear so sporadically and do so little that I just find myself completely disinterested in them.
Like if you're playing as Aether, Lumine is a complete non-character. Utterly lacking in charm, charisma or any real depth. If you're playing as Lumine, then it's Aether. They're thoroughly uninteresting and I just don't really give a shit about them or their goals.
So then what's the central plot to Genshin
The Traveler's main goal is to reunite with their sibling, this much is true. But the game places infinitely more emphasis and care into fleshing out the regions and their Archons. Pick any given Archon and they have a thousand times the characterization that the Prince(ss) of the Abyss Order does.
And I'm not saying that the Traveler's goal isn't important on a technical level. But to be frank, I'm looking forward more to meeting the Pyro Archon than I am towards seeing the sibling again, because after like four Dainsleif quests, the sibling still hasn't given me a single reason to actually have any interest in them.
Incest
the journey since the destination is a noncharacter that appears once every two years
>what's the central plot to Genshin
the central plot is the MC has to travel to all the element themed countries, talk to their gods to see how cool they are and dont you wanna roll the gacha for them?, and solve their monsters of the week
>talk to their gods to see how cool they are and dont you wanna roll the gacha for them?, and solve their monsters of the week
yeah they are pretty cool i do wanna roll for them
and yeah i wanna solve your monster of the week
and also every incredibly specific and usually small problem that ties to some personal trauma your NPC has because the fantasy of helping people in narratives is comforting and fulfilling due to it being easy, clean and conclusive unlike real life where it is difficult, messy and ambiguous
t. picrel
Okay, so you know how some games expect you to care about a character just because the main character cares about them? Like Ethan's wife in Resident Evil 7 for instance. She's his wife so OF COURSE she's his number one priority, but I'm not Ethan. I don't really like her that much. I sympathize with Ethan of course, but I don't really have the same attachment he does.
Same deal with Genshin. I sympathize with the Traveler, but I don't care nearly as much about the sibling as they do.
You gacha gays are actively funding enemy technology and innovation. have a nice day now.
You're right. We should be funding Bobby's yacht instead.
And that's a good thing. Death to America, death to Israel. India will rule the world.
>enemy
I don't care about dieing for homoglobo/ZOG in 2024, glowie
By this logic playing genshin while never spending a dime is draining them of resources with no profits. Especially if youre spreading awareness on every frickup they made to other people.
How do I subscribe to the Genshin power plant?
I want all of my devices to run on Paimon energy.
I wonder why Mihoyo just refuses to rerun events. I mean to be honest, they'd be a pretty good way to fill up lull periods.
They didn't have reruns in mind when they implemented the events and now it'd be complex to implement them while bringing them little profit.
I never bought this excuse. What's more complex about reusing old events compared to making new ones?
I don't mean complex to do them, but complex to design the game around them. The events that most people want reruns for are the events that were important to the story, but Mihoyo has been consistent in having the story make sense and be played in order instead of being a disjointed mess like a lot of other gachas are. The events people want to be rerun had to be played at a certain point in the story and don't make sense if played later; rerunning them now would make no sense story-wise. For example the first Scaramouche event made sense because it was before Inazuma was released, if you release it today the whole thing makes zero sense.
I found a very weird bug on genshin, for some reason the game uses only one processor, but if you limit the fps using something like nvidia control panel it starts using all processors. it didn't happen before and I dunno why it's happening after the latest update
The best quests storywise are some of the world quests. Sakura cleansing, chasm, enkanomiya, maybe jeht related ones, narzissenkreuz ordo. But dialogue is always a slog.
Elated reminder
Reminder about what? That banana nft scam is totally fine according to you, filthy israelite shill? have a nice day ban evading Black person spammer.
Literally never. It is the only game I've resorted to skipping in, I dropped it completely shortly after. If you told me it's entirely chatGPT or someone intentionally writing the most bloated, boring dialogue I'd believe you in a heartbeat.
>if you told me it's entirely chatGPT or someone intentionally writing the most bloated, boring dialogue I'd believe you in a heartbeat
Let's try.
Quest: "The Lost Melodies of the Past"
Location: Wangsheng Funeral Parlor, Liyue
Character: Xingqiu, the Hydro Appointed Priest
Target Character: Zhongli, the Geo Archon
Dialogue:
(Xingqiu approaches Zhongli, who is sitting in contemplation at the Wangsheng Funeral Parlor)
Xingqiu: (bowing) Honorable Archon Zhongli, I've come to ask for your guidance. I've been searching for a way to uncover the secrets of the ancient melodies that once resonated through these lands.
Zhongli: (looking up) Ah, Xingqiu. Your dedication to the Way of Wangsheng is admirable. What makes you think you can uncover these secrets?
Xingqiu: I've heard whispers of an ancient score hidden within the Wangsheng Funeral Parlor's archives. It's said to hold the key to understanding the forgotten melodies that once harmonized with the land itself.
Zhongli: (skeptical) The Wangsheng's archives are vast and complex. Even I, as an Archon, have not delved into their depths. What makes you think you can succeed where others have failed?
Xingqiu: As a priest of Wangsheng, I believe my connection to the land and its energies gives me a unique perspective. And I've discovered a few... clues that suggest this score might be hidden within a specific section of the archives.
Zhongli: (intrigued) Very well, Xingqiu. I'll grant you permission to search the archives, but be warned: the secrets within are not for the faint of heart. Are you prepared to face what lies within?
Xingqiu: (determined) I am prepared to face whatever challenges lie ahead. With your blessing, Archon Zhongli, I shall uncover the truth behind these lost melodies.
Zhongli: (nodding) Very well, Xingqiu. May your journey be fruitful. But remember, the secrets of the past are not always meant to be uncovered...
some of it makes no sense but it's close enough
This could literally be in-game dialogue and I wouldn't notice, I didn't even start on the paimon dialogues but honestly it's everyone not just paimon.
Fixed
I love Paimon so much...
>Zhongli: (nodding) Very well, Xingqiu. May your journey be fruitful. But remember, the secrets of the past are not always meant to be uncovered...
The unspeakable things he has done to Guizhong.
Never. It somehow manages to be worse than the average gacha story, which is a massive accomplishment considering how bad gacha writing is.
Never ever. Please don't play it you will waste your time. Please play a better gacha please!
Only when you drop that boring piece of shit and start playing WuWa.
dropping genshin story for wuwa is like refusing to eat a bad meal at a restaurant and instead going to the toilet to feast on actual shit
With Wuwa out now though, there's less excuses on Genshin's combat.
i'd prefer my team play to actually make sense instead of just having a different color attack and flashy animation
wuwa combat is all show no substance
So you didn't play it then? Synergy wise it's same as genshin with a carry, sub-dps and a support. Just you can actually dodge, stagger and parry stuff
you parry with fricking left click, the same button for normal attacks
if you keep spamming left click you win
there are no elemental reactions despite characters having an element each, only different color damage number
i played it for a few days then dropped it when i realized it's not genshin 2, but genshin 0.5
>if you keep spamming left click you win
Confirmed for only play for 2 hours max.
Wuwa has artificial synergy, the game could work perfectly fine with only one character so they had to tack on stupid mechanics that are only there to encourage you to switch character like the intro/outro skills. Genshin's combat is built around elemental reactions which inherently promotes switching character. You might prefer how an individual Wuwa character plays over and individual Genshin character, that's fine, but Genshin is inherently a team game, while Wuwa's combat is more like a regular single-character action game so they forced some gimmicks to justify having multiple characters (because it's a gacha game and gacha games require multiple characters). It's backward game design.
The synergy in wuthering waves is on the character switch for damage, which is the same for Genshin.
It's a shame but Genshin doesn't really do anything with the element reactions aside from damage where movement is concerned.
If Mohoyo focused on this aspect, combat would turn into a 10/10, but they leave it be.
You're arguing in bad faith and the things you say don't really make much sense. Or maybe it's a case of ESL.
Anyway, how would you fix the combat in genshin?
The reactions need to be related to movement and attacking/defending. You want to capitalise on Breath of the Wild's reaction system and apply that to fast-paced action combat.
Zelda actually does it better than Genshin, with stuff like riding air currents and entering slow-mo from above.
If Genshin had mechanics like, pushing a frozen enemy across the floor to crash into other enemies, that would be killer.
Instead it's just pushing circle and swapping out characters for damage-based reactions, which isn't terrible, just not super engaging.
Something like Wuthering Waves doesn't need elemental stuff because the base movement is so good.
>Wuthering Waves doesn't need elemental stuff
then why even give characters an element then?
To have an excuse to have multiple characters for different bosses and game modes, as well as capitalizing on what's familiar from Genshin.
This is not real synergy, get real. And elemental reactions are not just for damage. You can freeze wet enemies or make an ice path over water, you can burn shieds made of wood and ice, etc. You can apply elements to enemies and they can apply elements to you but some enemies like slimes already have an element, both you and enemies can become affected from the environment like walking in water or walking on fire. The core system of Genshin is the elemental reactions and everything is made around that; the character switching justifies itself because the game simply does not work without it. Yes there are other elements to team-building like supports and stuff, but that's optional. The entire game could work without buffs and healing. But the game CANNOT WORK without letting the player use multiple elements to have different elemental reactions, and this was implemented through character switching.
The vast majority of action games do not have character switching because there is no reason to. In Genshin Impact, there is a reason; the elemental reactions.
Wuwa could work perfectly well without character switching, it does not have a core mechanic that requires character switching. It is a well-designed single-character action game, but its team building is a complete gimmick. Intro and outro skills are not a core mechanic, it's a gimmick, the game works perfectly fine without them. In fact the game works perfectly fine without character switching except for... puzzles that require a gunner.
You might prefer Wuwa's combat, I am not saying that it's bad. What I'm saying is that Genshin is built around elemental reactions which justifies having multiple characters, while Wuwa has a well-designed combat system that has a tacked-on character switch system because if you didn't you wouldn't roll for characters. The game was designed backward, starting with the end result and then figuring out how to get there.
Every gacha in regards to characters is built around contrivances, else why not just have Aether be able to swap between all elements ala Devil May Cry weapons or something.
Genshin's core problem is that even with all the reactions, shields and whatnot, the movement is so unrefined that it comes across as stunted.
Even comparing it to Zelda it falls behind, let alone character action games.
>while Wuwa's combat is more like a regular single-character action game so they forced some gimmicks to justify having multiple characters
This is the biggest thing that puts me off from Wuwa the combat is fun but damn the theorycrafting with building different teams is just not there with Wuwa like it is with Genshin
>it's same as genshin with a carry, sub-dps and a support
>Danjin and Jianxin mains pushing the limit to how much of the content they can skill check with a single character and getting away with it
>People realising a month in you can actually run three sub-DPS, or even two main DPS depending on synergies, instead of autistic DPS/sub-DPS/support burst rotations and it doesn't matter
lol
I enjoy all the Archon Quests and the overall story although it is severely stretched out. Story Quests are a waste of time at best, and world quests are actively painful to experience.
Das Loom.
3.7's archon quest was so bad it made me drop the game, i wish i had done that earlier.
>wuwa
it's still alive?
Siggy's banner SUCK ASS. I already have Rosaria and Noelle to C6, and I'm not interested in some Egyptian homosexual.
I'm rolling for Furina-chan
I already have the bipolar narcissist, but might grab her weapon. Hopefully in a few rolls...
GO BACK TO YOUR WUSHITTER THREAD YOU DUMB FOMO Black person
...tf I do...
Raiden transformation? Into what?
>reddit spacing
>tendie Black person
It’s some samegayging WuWa shill that’s been showing up for a couple weeks now.
from the very start be cause you have paimon by your side.
Paimon is great!
>あんた、パカか。
>パカか。
???
>パ
moronbro...
Shut up!
>うるぱい‼
basado
why some languages tell paimon she is moronic while other tell her to shut up?
EN troony localization, other lazy shitter just used the translated EN troony script instead of using the original CN script.
We love Paimon here
Paimon is great. People are mad at her for no reason, the real problem with Genshin's writing are the NPCs.
Non Paimon Characters
Exactly
how much will twitter seethe when the pyro archon end up being a conquistador in a land of Black folk?
>pyro archo is a slave owner
Based esclavizador
is she going to be a sword user?
They already seethed when Nahida was shown to not be brown
Not like that stops them from seething again
Its already starting......
I really like this take on the pyro archon but won't she look like Murata from Honkai?
We won't know until we see the official reveals I guess. Keep in mind both the pic you're replying to and the previous image that circulated were just redraws (fanart) based on nothing but a verbal description provided by an anonymous dude who claimed to be affiliated with hoyo
Technically we don't even know if Murata still is the current pyro archon or if she's been replaced in the past 500 years
It doesn't ever get good. It's always overly verbose dialogue about uninteresting anime filler episode tier storylines. I've set up an autoclicker i turn on whenever there dialogue and walk away to grab a snack or something. It's really not worth your time reading it all
Every mihoyo game is WORDS WORDS WORDS. Chinks can't write and especially mihoyo is huffing their own farts so hard thinking they're making the next romance of the three kingdoms while writing the most sleep inducing slop imaginable. Zzz is a fitting abbreviation for their next title
Nobody actually unironically still plays genshin in 2024, right?
Nahida owes me Irminsul sex
In my humblest of opinions, I personally think both games can co-exist peacefully. It's dumb you have to defend one gacha game because you're spending thousands of bucks on it. Fun fact, MHY and Kuro doesn't give a shit about you defending them; they only care about your wallet. Oh and no, they will never listen to feedback from a mouthbreather in 4chink.
i just don't like talking about other games in my game thread, if i wanted to talk about wuwa i would've gone to that thread
and the fact that they copied whatever they could from genshin means that morons like you will keep bringing it up forever
so no, they can't co-exist and i hope it dies
I don't recall ever arguing over the Kuro game in a Genshin thread though; just giving my 2 cents. Sounds like (You) problem.
>i hope it dies
isn't it already dead tho?
>friend pesters me to play Genshin because it's the best story ever written
>do Monstadt, tell him that was boring
>"yeah Monstadtt is pretty bad"
>do Liue, this was even worse
>"yeah Liue is lame"
>get to Inazuma, this is fricking horrible and now the game wants me to do companion quests for character I don't give a frick about
>"yeah it's not good but it's gets better after that and the regions after are pure kino"
Frick this game and whoever wrote it
I've never really played any EM reliant comps but I decided to level this piece for the hell of it and ended up getting a fairly good substat spread
Can I use this on anyone?
tighnari if you're desperate
Alibaba
the writing quality of the dialogue never gets good, it's always full of bland filler that you can't skip past due to 30 second long nodding animations and paimon repeating obvious shit
World quests generally are good and it's how you get access to certain areas of the world too
So Paimon is there for the younger crowd to reiterate plot points?
Yes, and also for some anons here
Oh, Anon gets it! Anon skips a lot of the cutscenes in the game, so sometimes having Paimon say it again at the end helps me focus!
but you have to be an adult to post here, what sort of paimonial needs would anons here have?
Sort of, yes. Despite hiring VAs to do like 1-5 voice lines for the main character every patch they insisted on going with the unvoiced MC route for the game's main story, so Paimon also functions as your mouthpiece by speaking with and interacting with NPCs on your behalf
So close to 100% crit rate Rosaria
That's the fun thing. It doesn't get good and the bloated text is there to make you think there is something of value.
There isn't. The entire thing is just a waste of time.
All gachas "stories" are fricking garbage
Only fate is the outliner since they have an actual writer who owns the company that partners with the gacha developer
True anon, I loved barbed wiener too.
I'm just waiting for the whole story to be done so that I can go through all of them in one go like a rpg game.
You will miss all the temporary events and will be forced to watch their stories on youtube!!
I haven't login in over a year, they still don't do something similar to 'archive' for past events?
No, but they did in HSR
There's a rumor that they gonna make all past event comeback and playable similar to SR events, basically they just switch all the QoL between two games now.
Might need to wait for 5.0 leak next month to see if its true.
People hoping something happens doesn't mean it's a rumour
We've seen switch QoL and content between two games for a while now.
At this point Genshin needs so much QoL compared to SR that it isn't something that could be done in one single patch.
Anon... literally genshin QoL that has been added to the game since 1.0 to 3.8 was in SR at launch.
Both games still got no loadout function for relic/artifact while the end game content literally depend on that thing because they rotate the enemy line up every months.
SR really need loadout, shit like speed stats matter a lot specially on support and sometime I forgot which relic was used on which characters.
>When does Genshin's story get good
The lore of genshin is good, they just don't spoonfeed you every detail in the main questline
There is plenty of lore in weapon/artifact descriptions, books, side quests, limited timed events
>The lore of genshin is good
nope
>babbies first gnosticism inspired lore
>good
from the beginning
you just have shit taste
Am I the only one who think Genshin's story has been good since Liyue?
Mondstadt and Liyue were ok, Inazuma was shit
I actually loved Inazuma though...
The AQ was bad and clearly rewritten like wuwa.
The first half of Inazuma is OK other than the NPC crap at the start.
The second half in 2.1 was just rushed garbage though.
Though I'd take rushed garbage over what we got in Fontaine.
The only good part of Inazuma was the immediate start and even then Traveler gets gaslit into helping Ayaka and Ayato. As soon as you get past that part it completely fails on all fronts and the Story Quests had to damage control just to make it decent. Teppei as a character is handled so poorly you'd think a child wrote that entire part of the story.
>Teppei as a character is handled so poorly you'd think a child wrote that entire part of the story.
I felt way sadder when Melus and Silver died than I ever did for Teppei.
>Traveler gets gaslit into helping Ayaka and Ayato
you seem to forget Ayato just doesn't exist in the story quest. Offscreen the entire time with no role lol
I liked everything in Inazuma aside from the resistance
>Form suicide mission against literal battle autist
>Accept help from shady anonymous third party
Raiden could have committed genocide on all of watatsumi in a single strike
Oh no! She is chewing on her own finger
It started OK and only gets worse every additional region.
>Simple thing like the assignment "claim all" button added for genshin first months after SR launch.
At this point I'm sure both teams just being lazy because they rather let other team do their works and then just copy it later.
>14k primos
>82 wishes
>5 to pity
>50/50
Bwos, I'm worried I may not get Slunny...
The story is "fine"
The "storytelling" is garbage, and it gets worse over time
Do side-characters even get development between events/side-content or are they permanently in their 'character intro description' state? Like for example, pic related could have her own side-story but I suppose she's the same 'town hates me, i hate town, except my childhood friend'?
>childhood friend
girlfriend*
And her girlfriend's girlfriend
>Do side-characters even get development between events/side-content or are they permanently in their 'character intro description' state?
The only one I can remember off the top of my head is pogo stick man learning to be less of an autist. And I suppose all of Klee's events revealing more and more hints about Alice and the witch circle
No, lol. Eula is different from the way she started
That's good to hear. I'll check her stories later.
Some characters actually do maintain their character development. Eula does become less rigid and autistic, and probably most notably Shenhe actually starts integrating herself into normal society,
>Shenhe actually starts integrating herself into normal society,
The real but boring answer is it depends on who's writing the content at the time
Most of the cast is pretty one dimensional but the way their one defining trait is handled varies
Eula has started opening up to people, and while she's still got her hangups she's far more honest about what she means, especially if she's not in Mondo.
Mona's stopped acting like such a pauper and is a bit more responsible about her money than earlier. She still blows it all but she saves it for more important things.
Sucrose is less reserved and doesn't blurt out as much as she did near the start.
Collei is actively trying to learn how to read, has started to be less shy, and is actively going out of her shell to push past her insecurities and worries to be more like Amber.
Clorinde went from reserved to far more open and a bit goofy ever since the story moved past the apocalypse and Navia learned the truth of her father.
Yoimiya is mostly the same but she went from secret freedom fighter to more open about the world and wanting to experience more than just Inazuma.
Ayato is still super diplomatic and calculating but he's also gotten goofier and is actively chilling out more as he goes out of Inazuma.
Shenhe's gone from this murder monster who is unable to control her temper and reactions to things to working food service and being a part of Liyue which makes both Ganyu and bird mom happy.
Cloud Retainer has gone from believing humans were beneath her and her intellect to viewing them as equals and becoming a tourist mom who loves seeing new inventions.
Xiao has gone from this weird protector of humans who thinks he can't interact with them to constantly being pushed out of his comfort zone and accepting it rather than immediately teleporting away. He's also learned to accept John Lee more as his own person than view him as his god even if it's baby steps.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
You forgot the most important one: Paimon and Itto have gone from frenemies to proper rivals.
Diona got over the anti alcohol schtick after meeting the spring fairy in the lochfricking event
Nah, she was still complaining about it in the potion event after it.
is teyvat the planet or the land?
It's the underground
Trust me, it gets good 200 hours in
Once you become a lore schizo and start delving in the esoteric bullshit
Story is typical Asian convoluted mumbo jumbo, but I like when they do isolated zones with storylines. The mine zone on notChina was great.