Why american super hero games seem to do better than their movies and comics?
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Only Spiderman and Batman. Avengers and Guardians of the galaxy flopped
That's a shame that Guardians flopped, I hate cape shit but that game was really fun and looked incredible at times.
>tweet deleted
CURIOS
what are you implying
that its fake
Why would that mean it's fake?
why delete it otherwise?
https://twitter.com/TheQuestBro/status/1620911563942273024
Getting hate from the west for allowing people to see the implications
Capeshits mad.
From some googling manga made up 76% of comic sales in the US in 2021
wasn't there something about one volume of demon slayer selling more than the entire western comic industry up to that point?
Have you seen the c**ts on that website? They will try to ruin your life or even kill you if you say something they don't like
Or worse.
Nah, if you've been paying attention to manga vs western comic sales it's pretty well known that manga outsells comics to an absurd degree, nothing fake about that.
It's almost like people are tired of troony and sjw crap being shoved into their books about ripped cape men beating up bad guys.
Comic books are just really shitty to follow. I only ever buy omnibuses or collections but I'll grab volumes of manga all the time
Yeah like if you wanna read something about Batman then you have to read like 50 different fricking versions all written by different people. Not to mention all the issue numbers. With manga, you just read chapter 1.
>fake
Lmao. Western comics are fricking garbage and they're outsold by Manga by a huge margin.
"While comic shops tend to focus on longtime fans - often older readers who grew up on and collect superhero comics – mass-market bookstores sell to everyone, including younger readers and those outside of traditional comics fandom. Consequently, the books that are selling in bookstores are, generally, not superhero-oriented. According to Bookscan data shared at the conference, kid-oriented comics and graphic novels account for a whopping 41% of sell-through at bookstores; manga is 28%. Superhero content is less than 10%, down 9.6% year-over-year."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2019/10/08/surprising-new-data-shows-comic-readers-are-leaving-superheroes-behind/
This article is nearly five years old now. I doubt it got any better.
no i meant his story/picture was fake
Yeah and you're probably wrong. Guy most likely deleted it because his inbox was full of seething from capeshitters. Plenty of literally whos delete tweets that suddenly get a ton of attention unexpectedly.
well that's hardly fair, to count the entirety of manga against one section of comic books
admittedly I doubt they're selling much good manga to the little shits but still
Waaah, those imaginary guys in dresses are out to get us, y'all!
Ever fricking think that breaking from stories non-stop to start new arcs is bad storytelling and anti-consumer? Maybe that's why no sane person would read comicbooks.
Unfortunately they aren't imaginary. They have to wake up and live every day for the rest of their lives, however shot they may be.
Yeah you're right, we should all just buy the comic books instead of whining right? homosexual
No, you illiterate homosexual. He's saying that no one excpet except a miniscule minority wants to see the same characters and stories over and over and over again. People want interesting and novel things, that's why shit like Made in Abyss is incredibly popular. Because "mysterious death hole with all kinds of weird creatures and artifacts" triggers our curiousity. Superhero in a tightsuit in an urban setting not so much.
The wokeshit is really just more nails in the coffin. The american comics industry has been floundering for decades at this point.
>It's almost like people are tired of troony and sjw crap being shoved into their book
And yet mangas still sell like hotcakes. Tranime just keeps growing.
not just in the comic department
>let's make a movie about some literally whos and the most disliked heroine in the MCU
>and let's make it look like it's diversity propaganda
>WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?
I only found out about this movie like two weeks ago and my first thought was "Why?". Marvel movies have been irrelevant for years, why do they keep trying? Endgame was the end, it's over.
>build up a market based on white male characters
>try to replace them with a bunch of obnoxious women and blacks
>you're a bigot if you don't see our movie
Ghostbusters 2016 should have been the canary in the coal mine for these morons but they went full steam ahead on woke bullshit. It will take a little bit for them to adjust but they'll just move onto video games and suck the life out of that too, then manga and anime next. It's not about making a good movie with Hollywood, it's about promoting a political agenda. That's why they never take a step back even when they're losing money.
>woke bullshit
Jesus Christ, are you motherfrickers still stuck in 2015?
>heh sorry bucko your terminology is outdated so you have no argument
I feel bad for you sis. You're as much of a twat as they are.
Not him, but you sound like a little b***h.
Now bend over.
I mean. It was directed by a sheboon.
What did you expect?
>Marvels star
She's not a bad human. She's unfortunately saddled with a garbage character
It's just funny how out of all the characters in the msu, Kamala is labeled as the "Star". Star according to who?
it's that comics are moronic to figure out where to start with. if you didn't just absorb them as a child then you are barred out of them.
This is actually autism, just pick up a volume 1 of whatever miniseries and start from there. If it's a series with lots of issues, just pick up whatever's the recent issue and start from there as ones that aren't marked as a miniseries/event aren't story arcs.
The point is that with manga you can pick one dude or cast and read one complete story from beginning to end. With comics it's a bunch of miniseries or resets from different people sometimes intermingled with a bunch of other comic book characters with their own series.
What's the point of 20 fricking disconnected Batman stories?
>What's the point of 20 fricking disconnected Batman stories?
I don't know about you sis, but seeing Alan Grant, Grant Morrison, Frank Miller, Alan Moore and so on write about Batman is pretty entertaining.
I don't know who any of those people are besides Alan Moore and Frank Miller.
People do that and they think it fricking sucks and nothing makes any sense, and they stop. "just put up with the way we do things" has been a losing strategy.
It sounds more like you're making up reasons to get mad about shit that doesn't burden anyone but autists.
We're discussing the people who still buy comics in current year. It's literally all autism, at every level. If you weren't autistic you wouldn't even be discussing it.
If those stories were required reading in the volume, then they would have been included. If not, then they are not necessary to the story at hand. Glad I could make it easy for you. 🙂
People have discovered it's not necessary to read any of it.
The bottom line is that nobody buys comic books to begin with.
We know you're baiting. Nobody buys comics. Everyone buys manga. Not much else to say.
Anon, this whole thread is about why one industry is collapsing but a competitor industry isn't.
And closing your fricking eyes and covering your ears isn't going to magically mean this basic ongoing reality isn't occuring.
If your house is on fire, pretending it's not won't just fricking make the fire go away.
>Gankerirgins knowing anything about any industry
Biggest laugh of the day.
except all of them have callbacks and references to the past series and are written as "heh, remember THAT?? well here it is with a tweest!", that's the entire comic book industry. comics rely heavily on boomlenial nostalgia and don't exist as standalone series anymore. the only reason batman series #438483 exists as a batman series and not a unique standalone story with entirely new characters is so it can make references to past batman series. that's all comics are: the jokes are references, the plotlines are references, the villains are references. it's really just one big nostalgia-jerk that you had to be there to care about.
>except all of them have callbacks and references to the past series and are written as "heh, remember THAT?? well here it is with a tweest!", that's the entire comic book industry. comics rely heavily on boomlenial nostalgia and don't exist as standalone series anymore. the only reason batman series #438483 exists as a batman series and not a unique standalone story with entirely new characters is so it can make references to past batman series. that's all comics are: the jokes are references, the plotlines are references, the villains are references. it's really just one big nostalgia-jerk that you had to be there to care about.
Those callbacks are all optional moron, you are not required to go back to read them. If they were important they would be included in a volume or compilation.
Nah, I got into immortal hulk for the body horror. Fricking 6 floppies in, they're bringing in old characters with "hey hulk, good to see you again!", and I don't know any of this shit. Then it enters an entire arc about characters you're already expected to know. Immortal hulk was talked about like it was some fresh, easy access spinoff. Fricking twelve chapters in and we've got hulk turning into "mr fixit" because he did that in the eighties, and I'm supposed to feel anything but dull confusion.
I read the Hulk series after Immortal Hulk, Starship Hulk, its the one where Bruce Banner turned the Hulk into a Gundam and pilots him from a Star Trek style bridge in his mind that's powered by the Hulk's anger as he is forced to do battle to simulated enemies.
It was one of the worst series I've read in years.
But you did read it.
Online on some russian "READCOMICSONLINE DOT RU" site, yes.
Still counts.
Behold, your average American comic.
In the past 5+ years for popular comics have there been any actually cool storylines or even good fight scenes to balance this garbage out? Whenever I've seen people bring up american comics pretty much everywhere it's always cringe politics and race shit like this but no one ever posts anything to the contrary.
Check out Demon. It's really rad.
>it's always cringe politics and race shit like this but no one ever posts anything to the contrary.
When has a comic really made any waves beyond just trying to clickbait or ragebait people? I feel like you have to be in that circle to know if a certain writer or artist is doing anything really neat.
Not really related to that quote chain I guess but it reminds me that manga doesn't really have any cultural impact in the west until it becomes an anime anyways. Demon Slayer wasn't outselling the entire US comics industry before it was an anime for sure.
Chainsaw man was extremely popular before it became an anime. Manga readers overseas have become just as ingrained
>hainsaw man was extremely popular before it became an anime
no fricking clue how that series is not only boring but none of its characters are even slightly likable
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makima sexy
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I'm going to shoot on Chainsawman, I think Fujimoto is a fricking hack. He's all style no substance and he's better suited to making one-shots and I get the impression he is bored out of his mind having to draw out a plot. The action in his manga fricking sucks, he cannot draw fight scenes that aren't just magical or conceptual powers gibbing something instantly with a cool effect, the plot is a joke and it feels like events are just randomly setup in a contrived manner to set up a "scene", it could be the Denji sharknado shit, the karaoke shit while goons are coming in to beat up Denji, etc. I have no actual trust in a coherent narrative of stakes, I can fully believe Denji randomly meeting Death Devil at tacobell or something to talk about food just to set up a zinger page of Denji accidentally spilling hot sauce over him, but it goes nowhere because he only really wanted to setup that one scene for the page in itself so he tries to shuffle it out as quickly as possible to do something else
Didn't read. I'm sorry that happened to you.
huh wat u mean???
Why are you even here? Go scroll tiktok or something you Black person
I agree, honestly. I dropped out of CSM mostly satisfied after part1. I tuned back in sporadically during part2.
Then there was this absolutely amazing little 3 chapter arc where Denji is depressed, a girl suddenly starts feeling him up, and we go on a ridiculous, crazy ride that seems like it's going to shake the entire manga and jump off into something wild!
And then immediately after the climax, Yoshida walks in, kills all tension, gives the most dull answer to the situation imaginable, and then -just to ensure that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS- pulls Mifune away so we can safely fade to black and forget all of this ever happened and there was any reason to be excited at all.
It just feels like he writes like this most of the time. Also incredibly laughable that apparently we were supposed to care about death fodder friend of Asa when he can barely wait to blow his load on some meme scene
>mfw the last time comics were even in the public consciousness before all this homosexual California shit was when DC "killed" superman and then immediately brought him back and turned most people off of comics forever
I really wonder who comicgays are trying to fool when the shill the latest DEATH OF ..... HAWKMAN storyline as if anybody takes it any degree of seriously
homie your fault reading Marvel.
>homie your fault reading American comics*
Fixed that for you
why does hulk look so ghoulish
looks like he was starving or something
I'll admit I read the comic and dropped it at the page posted. But before that I was a decent fight story.
>Hulk is now just hunted on sight by virtually every living being on earth
>Narrative tries to deconstruct hulk as more than some radiation mutant
>Hulk is the amalgamation of all the energy from an entire layer of hell
>Every super hero force has a weapon designed specifically to kill Hulk
>One superhero literally eats gama radiation and turns it into a different type of radiation
>He blasts hulk and Hulk shrinks into a skeletal thing
There were some decent moments. But I saw that page and dropped it. It wasn't *that* fricking good to bother reading further.
>There were some decent moments. But I saw that page and dropped it.
You're taking it too seriously. You actually think the Hulk cares what this b***h is saying? He's a monster robbed of his humanity.
You think the writer doesn't?
Does the Hulk suddenly wage war against all white men? Alan Moore is a smelly hippy anarchist, he never let that get in the way of his comics. Did this one?
It's not good that writers are including point-blank screeds and the hero nods and goes "huh maybe you've got a point there". It's also a crap comic too, so why extend them that much good will?
Last 2 comics I ever read were Hellboy in hell, and invincible (albeit skipping a lot of filler)
Invincible hulk had no narrative and it was very empty of any teeth. It had moments that would make for a good twitter post to show off, but in-between that it sucked.
Taking time out of what you could consider the peak of the narrative to cram in a hamfisted message about how angry a black woman feels on society is fricking moronic. Don't do that.
>Taking time out of what you could consider the peak of the narrative to cram in a hamfisted message about how angry a black woman feels on society is fricking moronic.
I think that's the point. The world is fricking ruined and this b***h is trying to talk about politics. Shit is surreal, like an episode of the Twilight Zone.
This sounds more like an absurd scenario where a woman is trying to identify with a radioactive monster. Kinda like how women try to coddle pitbulls before they get mauled.
>giant green monster
>white man
hulk? no, this is a grinch comic
i kind of like this.
instead of blaming the hulk really for everything she wants to be like the hulk.
i think thats pretty novel as far as hulk storylines go.
New people don't know that, they assume if something is referenced, you're supposed to know about it, the way it works in any sane linear medium like novels, movies and manga
>New people don't know that
homie they literally leave notes telling them that.
it's the style of writing, not just the plot events that happen. it's the nature of having a character be used and abused by 12 different authors rather than just one. it's all different interpretations of a character established long ago. just like how people discuss which film interpretation of joker is best. 'joker' is a more of a template to be used by different authors which lends itself well to reference writing where things are set up to make callbacks and references to previous series. sort of like how MGS2's a 'simulation of shadow moses', comics series are often structured in a way where the reader is expected to know about the events of the previous series just so the current series can play off those events and add a twist to them.
That's implying that they're all the same shit of the same quality already. As if anyone would actually believe that when different authors and artists write on each part of a series. If someone tells me, I can read whatever part of Superman/Spiderman/Batman, I have to assume the story is whatever to begin with.
Literally
>consumer consume NOW!
vs
>art
This is the new cope narrative. I have seen it multiple times now. If comics gatekeep themselves explain what has happened with them.
they were created by a israelite.
Manga has been taking over American comics sales for a long ass time, not least because it has a much more even gender split (probably racial ones too, but I can't be fricked to go looking), polzoomer.
>It's almost like
SOCIETY AGREES WITH MY POLITICS
>Which is why
CORPORATIONS KEEP MAKING THINGS THAT DON'T AGREE WITH MY POLITICS
Ganker is rotting your brain my friend. SJW shit is here to stay and everything we love will be ruined forever.
>all these asshurt anti/misc/ troons replies when you shit on SJWs
lol
more than likely that Marvel/DC sent him a C&D because they'd rather do that than just make quality products that people want
I'd drop $500 on manga in a heartbeat if I could find it at 75% off
average manga: young boy gets stronger cutting off demon heads, has two bros and cute sister who sometimes has big boobs and there are other cute girls who sometimes have big boobs
average western capeshit comic: hideous black/brown lesbians who are either new characters nobody has ever heard of or old characters mangled beyond recognition buy hotdogs with peaches and sriracha on them while whining about the patriarchy
OH FRICK WHICH ONE SELLS MILLIONS OF COPIES TO ITS INTENDED AUDIENCE OF 13 YEAR OLD BOYS?
Both sound moronic.
The one with boobs and cute girls with boobs, obviously
White Savior Complex incarnate
Just Kimetsu no Yaiba (Demon Slayer) only sells like double of the whole American comic industry in USA. And that's just one series of the frickton of other manga there are.
Nobody buys capeshit. There are several reasons:
- Plots are stupid and have no weight. It doesn't matter that a character dies in an issue, because it will be brought back in another or it will just be part of a multiverse shit. How many times has Captain America, Wolverine, Spiderman or Superman died?
- There's no real author, the characters are the editorial's. That means that in order to continue a series, they can just ditch the current author and get another, which just doesn't happen in manga. Even soulless shit like Dragon Ball Super or Boruto have the original authors somewhat involved
- American comics are more worried of being a good influence to its readers than being fun, resulting in being pozzed as shit and having lots of "current political issue" references that won't make any sense in 2 years
- Pic related. The way American comics work is moronic, and that has started to bleed into the movies, that's why they are flopping left and right. At the start, you just went to see Iron Man and you had fun. Now you need to see 20 movies, 4 Disney Plus series and 2 Christmas Special shorts just to know what they're talking about
Fricking this. I wanted to start reading xmen but there are too many versions so I just gave up
There's more to comics than just capeshit
You can easily get into comics as a medium without touching capeshit even once
The israelites fear the samurai.
too busy peddling propaganda to sell a product people want
The MCU film series is about to hit the $30 billion mark in gross revenue.
>gross
Yea it is.
>pic4
Of course people are going to scoop up all the overpriced plastic for 75% off.
Warhammer literally never goes on sale normally, no shit it's flying out the door
Yea warhammer 75% off you’ll have homies stabbing eachother. Modern, recent, worthless comics not so much. Manga too is like crazed coomers and shit, again you’ll have homies getting stabbed.
Why are there so many ESL OPs on Ganker?
>buy comic
>it's like 10 pages long
>6 pages of actual comic with ugly, flat art and dull colors
>4 pages of ads
>tune in next week when shitzo mcfartzor maybe actually does something potentially
not really hard to see why people don't give a shit about comics. they exist to sell merchandise and movies/games do a way better job at that
>spending almost 1$ per minute of media
I got a comic once as a gift and it seriously confused me why they existed
>seriously confused me why they existed
the complete collections are the things to read
shit like all star superman and anything by alex ross are works of art
Trade paperbacks are almost entirely worthless. A volume of manga gets you like 120 pages for 10 bucks. Why the frick would anyone buy a trade paperback for 6 bucks. They should go the Jump route of magazine publications
It's a weird thing where comic books made perfect sense in the market conditions they previously existed in but those conditions have long since ceased to exist and they continue to be released in the same way for secondary bullshit reasons. But I don't think it actually matters that much because they're both going towards digital formats that aren't substantially different, Marvel's only problem is that they're still sandbagging the digital releases to add value to the physical ones while the manga and LNs are already at the point of physical buyers being second class citizens that get fewer and slower releases.
It's horribly sad that the "you will own nothing and you will be happy" mentality has infected even the Japanese.
It's more of an issue in the west where print releases are riskier so you've got stuff that's in a normal magazine at home being only licensed by companies that don't even do physical books at all but I'm sure there's a significant amount of web manga series that aren't even getting tank releases in general. Never mind the vertical scrolling stuff.
>save manga to hard drive
>own hard drive
>muh you vill own NOFING
huh?
Capeshit in general is a weird relic from a different time. Kind of like Clowns it's some weird cultural stigma that's infected American society as a whole and sadly won't disappear anytime soon.
Not that Asterix or Donald Duck are like some paradigm of european comic writing or anything.
Dont talk shit about clowns, homie.
>American comic
>half the pages are ads
>the rest are characters showing up just to announce they're going to be in a different comic you should buy
>Asterix
>Focussed on telling self contained stories
Asterix deserves to outlive American capeshit.
>buy manga
>thick ass book full of hand drawn art
>actual reviews for it online so you know what you're getting into
>author has a little note at the end saying how much they appreciate all their readers
Kino
You're buying a volume whereas since those are the only things japs import, they don't import the magazines, with comics there's mostly single issues for sale instead of whole volumes
Still better to buy an entire magazine full of various comics with a similar theme than a single issue of your personal favourite.
>buy manga
>plastic wrapped so you can't flip through and preview
>4 out of 100 pages colored
>store got in volume 1 never gets volume 2 for some reason has volume 3 but don't buy it because no volume 2 finally break down after six months of waiting and amazon volume 2
>it arrives beat up, razor cuts on cover, corners bent
>sigh at least i can get volume 3 now
>volume 3 has sold out but they have volume 4 now
>after that the store just suddenly stops carrying it despite the series running for 40 more volumes
>but for some reason they have volume 16
>just give up and amazon the rest
>bookshelf looks like a car wreck
>new girlfriend accuses me of being a pedo and dumps me
>nothing of value was lost
>want to get rid of it, but there's little secondary market for manga, so it isn't like I can sell it
>just dump it on goodwill
>they don't even fricking bother they just throw it away
Half of this is just wrong and the other half is your fault
This is amazing. Chuds are just too low IQ to fully appreciate it.
this is ironic right? please tell me this was just a shitpost in a comic or something
hahahaha
This would have been satire not too long ago.
It would have been satire a decade ago, that's a while anon.
>Oof, this is looking UGLY Chavez
Xhe's not wrong, that was my reaction too
Reminder that, thankfully, the people who write this shit are so broke they have single digit bank accounts and beg for money on twitter between paydays.
Source milord
I have seen deviantart comics that are better than this.
I am a better artist than this.
some dude without hands could create something better so I believe you.the art makes you puke but the text bubbles makes you want to poke your eyes out.
AI?
This is almost like Marvel's New Warriors comics where it is so bad it transcends being good and becomes inspiring even.
I can't really think of many rare instances in the western comic book industry where something is so bad it becomes inspirational, but Marvel's New Warriors announcement sure does meet the requirements in my book.
Something that everyone needs to understand is that these are all failures. This didn't even make it to their first issue. Iron heart aka black iron woman didn't even get a 3rd issue.
These are just throwing shit at the walls to see what sticks. The backlash this got was so monumental they shit canned it before it even had a chance to get viral on twitter.
Point to any shitty comic example and as awful as it is, it was most likely already cancelled by the time it was posted.
Your new steam avatar, xir.
Notice how the emphasize the word "ugly" as if to mock the morons who paid for that shit
I'm starting to understand how book burnings came about.
>Get told the latest Batman arc is really good, I should read it
>Have to pick up Batman issue#3226b
>"Look Batman, I'm alive again!" [Read She-Hulk #1224 for the details -Ed]
>"We need to stop that Joker from blowing up the entrie city... again!" [Read Scott Pilgrim volume 4 for the details! -Ed]
>"Hey Batman, isn't it strange how you're friends with Superman, Flash, and the Lantern Corps, but can't keep a guy in clown makeup in jail?' [This will never be explained! -Ed]
>Half the issue is adverts
>Finishes before it's even started
>The story will be continued in a completely different series, by a different author, who writes Batman completely differently
Meanwhile
>Another of my friends told me I'd like Jujutsu Kaisen
>Pick up volume 1
>Read through to the current issue
>Currently invested in a Stand Up comedy battle to the death, as Gojo's corpse rots
It's a true mystery why comic books are struggling so badly. I hope one day we figure it out
The hacks in manga are at least funny.
is that "nah I'd win" guy?
yeah i'd win
or, hear me out.
you just read all those references?
>you just read all those references?
Not him but unless it's a direct sequel or prequel of something no work should demand homework from you.
you should be reading them all together anyway
>i want to read batman
>YOU HAVE TO ALSO READ ALL THIS OTHER SHIT
>those things don't interest me
>UUUUUH DO IT ANYWAY?????
nah, I'll pass
things don't interest me
why not?
>read yotsubato
>asagi returns from a trip with a weird mark on her neck
>"lol chapters 74-80 of berserk sure were wild, but I can't hang out with you until I get this thing taken care of, sorry yotsuba-chan"
Yeah no frick off, this exact shit is one of the many other bullshit reasons why comics are dying.
Even kids in the 70s and 80s knew that stuff was optional and just there if you wanted to know more. Good to know the autists of today are getting dabbed on by the kids of fifty years ago.
>you just read all those references?
>Batman 1442b told me I needed to read She-Hulk 1553 to understand, so lemme go buy that one
>She-Hulk 1553 says I need to read Green Lantern 1223 and Deadpool 7c to follow that story
>Green Lantern 1223 says I need to read a signed, original copy of X-Men 1 to follow its story and Deadpool 7c wants me to read Watchmen 5
>I'm now reading through 15 different storylines, while still making no progress on the Batman one I was recommended to read
American comics would be that you would be that you have to read Yuta #1-8 adventures being a fraud in Africa when he randomly uses the ability to manipulate sand or something against some special grade fodder cursed spirit.
Prefect analogy, and the Go/jo backstory would be told in a completely different book, with a completely different author
I feel sad for comics. For as much time I've spent away from them, they were my favorite medium growing up. Seeing stuff like this makes me a bit sad.
Games are the most popular medium with zoomers and gen A.
That being said capeshit movies do far better overall.
Also capeshit comics are pretty much a slowly dying medium, once the current stagnant readerbase disappears in 20-30 years it's all over.
anime is more popular than games amongst zoomers
Homosexuality is also more popular than being normal amongst zoomers.
why do you dislike anime?
Why wouldn't I? It's boring, same as any other sort of show.
Because I'm not 14 anymore.
Yeah but they're extremely entry level because they stream and maybe see some clips of older shows on social media.
The anime that does get popular here is shonen shit like Naruto or Dragon Ball Z, meaning the standards much like capeshit are shit.
Dragonball Z and Naruto are not meaningfully better or worse than all the other Japanese children's cartoons. Gatekeeping weeb morons just like to think they have superior patrician tastes, despite consuming exactly the same kind of slop.
>Games are the most popular medium with zoomers and gen A.
wrong
tiktok is
millennials and boomers are the bulk of gamers now
Mangas are horribly overpriced already and comics are even worse.
You either wait for the omnibus editions or get israeliteed with weekly staples
>Mangas are horribly overpriced
Not if you buy them at half price / used
Western comic books don't really sell as well as games or movies do. Even the highest selling comic book issues are lucky to get near 100,000 copies sold whereas successful new games are counted in the millions to tens of millions.
Comics sell as single issues whereas manga in the west is sold in volumes. People either want the whole run or big chunks of it at a time these days.
Some comics have extremely cool weekly alternative covers that make it worth it over the compilations.
Gears of War - Hivebusters and The Rise of Raam comic covers are fricking amazing in foil paper.
Most are shit though
I never understood the point of comics - they have no coherent plot or artstyle because of dozens of writers, characters deaths, power ups etc don't mean shit because they reset in the next run, the entire universe gets reset once every 5~ years. Why should I care about Spiderman survival or relationship when I know that shit will go back to status quo anyway?
this sucks cause Peter could have a child, May wouldve died and he would be happily married with steady job as a teacher...but marvel comics director wanted him to be in a forever circle of being a high school student
Same shit on Ganker.
Nobody cares about Western games unless it's something to shitpost and cause drama about or an actually good indie game.
You mean people don't want to read comics about queer trans body positive girl boss indigenous people of color?
The only good capeshit I've seen in the last decade was Invincible and they still fricked up a lot in that show, it was just good enough to carry abominations like Amber taking screen time.
>in the last decade
I meant this decade, as in 2020 onwards. There were a few decent MCU movies before they became formulaic bullshit and the New 52 DC movies had a few decent ones like the Flashpoint Paradox.
American comic will literally never be relevant.
Capeshit and israeli Distributors (Diamond, namely) poisoned the well for even Indie comics.
>Why don't they just sell magazines?
Heavy Metal exists, it's not even 1/100 as relevant as it used to be.
what about digital indie comics? twitter/patreon style shit?
>>Why don't they just sell magazines?
They used to sell a compliation of single issues instead but at some point they stopped in favour of printing out each individual issue on its own so they could gauge which series were doing better than which.
Don't SJ gauge rankings just fine in their magazines?
Hard to make money from that.
Knew a girl who ran a webtoon with 500k followers and 40+Mil views on LINE. Didn't make nearly enough to live even with Patreon+ads+Gumroad collections.
Some artists do fine with lewds doing comics though with commissions for supplement
Sounds like you only read Shounen stuff. Expand your horizons. DS is "good for a SJ series", not "best manga in decades"
>Didn't make nearly enough to live even with Patreon+ads+Gumroad collections.
she should have done adverts/affiliate links
that shit is where the money is
>Sounds like you only read Shounen stuff
I don't, I was just exaggerating. My favorite manga is oyasumi punpun and The Climber.
Another great one is homunculus. Those are thriller seinen
My favorite shounen is dungeon meshi and chainsaw man and golden kamuy.
Demon Slayer IS still great though. It has an ending and it has a good ending. That's really important.
am i reading this right? one manga is outselling ALL comics combined?
hilarious if true since demon slayer sucks
Demon Slayer is genuinely the best manga to be released in decades. Because it actually fricking ended and had a good ending at that. That counts for something. Also the art is 10/10 and the characters are likeable. That's all that matters. Miss me with you 900 episodes of one piece homosexual
>has an ending
genuinely impressive not to run that shit to its grave
and dont insult me, I dont watch one piece
>hunter x hunter is literally going to be run to its grave
I'm so glad I jumped ship after the 1999 ova
The HxH 99 anime is kino and too many gays ignore its existence because of the 2011 series. Even the sequel OVA's and Greed Island OVA's are good except they have the same problem that all anime does from that time with the very harsh and noticeable change to early digital animation that just looks much worse than the 99 anime.
I don't understand why people prefer 2011. This isn't me being contrarian, all the reasons I see are that the "quality is higher" and I don't comprehend it.
The artstyle in 1999 is fantastic and Gon being voiced by the Naruto voice actor is great. People just tend to ignore older adaptations.
killua's VA is much better too.
In the 2011 the two VAs for Gon and Killua grunt literally every fricking line and once you notice it it's unbearable to hear.
most likely
chances are that its publisher will parade its corpse around and drop new chapters like what they did with berserk
It was hilarious at the time, when it was very clearly wrapping up and every thread was full of people that were utterly convinced there was no way Jump would let their best franchise end.
>Muzan will get away, and there'll be va timeskip with Tanjiro rebuilding the Demon Slayers as the new pillar
Rebuilding from what!? All their infrastructure is spent, the vast majority of the characters have been killed, and almost all their resources and every trump card they have has been used! This is it, it's all or nothing!
It reached a moronic fever pitch when Tanjiro got infected
>He'll be the new Muzan and the series will follow Nezuko rebuilding the Demon Slayers to hunt him down
Countless Anons were shocked senseless when the "Demon Slayer is ending in X chapters" announcement came through.
And it was wonderful. Having a story conclude with all loose ends tied up was so rare that I forgot how satisfying it was.
Then when I look at fricking Spiderman that's been going on for 70 fricking years it's just...insane that there are no conclusions. I've tried looking at all the different endings that have been written and they're all so fricking stupid. Either it's misery porn or completely random and stupid.
There needs to be a fully realized beginning middle and end to every comic book story and they need to have an ENDING.
Agreed, Demon Slayer was absolutely fantastic. It's so good I almost never talk about it on this site because I've become exhausted with all the contrarians trying to assure me it was bad, and my enjoyment was mistaken.
The only thing I know about demon slayer is there' a lot of yaoi porn about it. I've never heard of this manga but I definitely recognize that protagonist.
i wonder if miura dying made manga creators realize they really shouldn't spend 10+ years trying to finish their stories
>10+ years
homie, Berserk's been going for 30 years now.
The boat arc alone was almost 10 years.
33 years, just like with DBZ people forget its so old that its from the 80's. Late 89 sure but that counts.
demonslayer artstyle is nice, but god damn i got so sick of every character having a sad backstory flashback every fricking time
Manga has hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits and comics don't therefore manga is better
Modern comics are filled with bad writing and ugly art when their primary purpose is to be looked at and read.
Meanwhile, even when the games have similar flaws the effect isn't as significant because the primary purpose of a game is to be played and being Batman and punching goons in the face is inherently fun and cool.
>want to get into comics
>theres 10000000000000000000 issues of the same fricking character over a period of 60 years
Yeah no thank you
and most of the time its never canon so I hope you never get attatched to a character only for some cuck to make them worst in the next re-re issue
Kids in the 50s and 60s didn't have trouble picking up comics. Zoomers just have autism.
They need to watch a few video essays before choosing.
Kids in the 50s and 60s didn't have anything else to do if they were raised in the right way in a good neighborhood, so comic books were easy to get into.
>Kids in the 50s and 60s didn't have anything else to do
They went outside and constantly got into fights and drank and cops would just pick them up and drop them off at home.
Did you totally miss
>if they were raised in the right way in a good neighborhood
?
Even the goody two shoes kids did that stuff. It was a time when boys were allowed to act like rowdy boys and have actual fist fights to settle differences. Now we punish kids for standing up to bullies.
the whole nation was "the right neighborhood" at the time because it was still 95% white europeans.
THAT'S RIGHT!!!!!! THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS!!! SIT AROUND KIDS AND LET ME YUO A STORY. THERE WAS A TIME LONG LONG AGO WHERE PEOPLE HAD A SPINE. BACK IN THIS DISTANT TIME YOU COULD SAY WHATEVER YOU WANTED AND PEOPLE WOULD LAUGH IT OFF. CALL A BLACK GUY A ******. CALL AN ORIENTAL A SLOPE. THEY CALL YOU A CRACKER. DOESNT MATTER!!! NOW YOU GOT ALL THESE RAINBOW HAIRED TRAN SEXUALS RUNNING AROUND AND IT ALL GOT ***ED UP. I READ THAT ALL THESE BLACK LIVES MATTER DONATIONS ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR UNCLE JOE BIDENS PRESIDENCY. ITS A DAMN SHAME. PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!!
JUST MY $0.02
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Child labor laws ruined the youth of the world, we need to repeal them immediately and get the kids back in the workforce as they had been for thousands of years prior.
You mean when comic books issues were a self contained story with no overarching plotline, crossovers were infrequent and at most every Main Character Hero had maybe 1-2 side kicks and minimal "remember me?" garbage? Wow, them boomers were the fricking kings.
Now there's several Flashes, The Bat Family, other shit you wouldn't know without actively keeping up with it.
Imagine if you had Tolkien's LoTR, then OtherGuy's LoTR, then like 6 more OtherGuy's LoTR with only constant being Frodo and The Fellowship(who's in it varies as well) but the villains, arcs, personalities and appearances of everyone are completely different from each version and they're on the same shelf.
>You mean when comic books issues were a self contained story with no overarching plotline, crossovers were infrequent
In the 60s? Lmao no. It would get more and more complex with the coming years and the readers loved it.
60s was still the era of readbait Superman.
I know my cousin got burned when the Miles Morales he saw on screen in Spiderverse was NOT the same one in the comics and just got confused by all the random storylines and all the designs/characterizations are different.
I kinda felt the same way growing up on DCAU
>I kinda felt the same way growing up on DCAU
The DCUA is actually a pretty dogshit take on the comics because its just a reimagining through the eyes of Batman gays.
You're not wrong, Anon. It's actually offensive how much that series sucked Batman off at times.
That happened to me all the time watching DCAU like Justice League Unlimited because there was decades worth of characters and like 6 previous shows all tied in, and they never played the fricking series in any sort of order it was just a random episode.
Its a great show tho.
>wahh TOO MUCH CONTENT
just be happy
Not only that but because of the shared universe your going to have to read 100000 other issues of other characters if you want full context of whatever bullshit event is going on.
>Not only that but because of the shared universe your going to have to read 100000 other issues of other characters if you want full context of whatever bullshit event is going on.
Only if you're a massive autist who needs to know EVERYTHING that is going on.
Once you realize the other stuff is irrelevant, you quickly realize the single book you wanted to read is irrelevant too
The best comic stories are always standalone runs. Just google what the popular/most highly rated stories are for a particular character and don't bother with anything else.
>/e/
wtf isn't this meant to be /d/?
no it's an e-celeb board since this is an e-celeb thread
You can look up top grossing movies <year> and its full of capeshit so you're wrong about that.
Comics have always been niche besides maybe the golden age way back when and even then I don't know the numbers. As a kid who grew up in the 90s I never gave a shit about comic books and did not know ONE other kid that did. Superhero cartoons were way more mainstream.
Films and comics are totally different things. Comics and Manga are very similar, except individual Manga series sell millions of units in the west while the western comic industry is lucky to see a few million sales total.
Also, the most recent capeshit film was "The Marvels" and it was a gigantic flop.
>Films and comics are totally different things.
I didn't make the OP.
>Also, the most recent capeshit film was "The Marvels" and it was a gigantic flop.
So? flops happen. Capeshit isn't going anywhere, the masses can't wait for more Batman and SpiderMan etc.
>You can look up top grossing movies <year> and its full of capeshit
Not anymore lmao
looking at a 2023 list I see high grossing capeshit.
Manga has frequent FOTM's to keep people intrested.
Manga also are creator driven with single or a handful of consistant writers that generally follow through beginning to end.
Manga also usually don't fall for the crossover/shared universe trap that are great for single hype events but in the long term overcomplicates the narrative and setting.
Comics don't have any of this.
Comics focus on the same capeshit that has been milked to death for literal decades now with little to no marketing pushed for new IP's or genre which would help reinvigorate the industry.
Said capeshit is a revovling door industry of new writers and editors being thrown in with no direct or cleasr vision of what these IP's should be about.
And said capeshit is obsessed with having all their IP's in a shared universe in an attempt to have reader's get into multiple franchises but all it does is bloat these stories and put people off with how much "homework" is expected from them.
Comics can be amazing but capeshit is bleeding it dry.
>Manga also are creator driven with single or a handful of consistant writers that generally follow through beginning to end.
Double edged sword when it really matters. In the hands of a better writer Naruto could have been good instead of the mediocre.
In the hands of a better writer Naruto wouldn't be Naruto.
That soulless shit where 20 different morons work on the same character needs to stay in the comics ghetto where it belongs, it's fricking moronic.
>In the hands of a better writer Naruto wouldn't be Naruto.
That would be a good thing. Naruto as it stands is a dogshit manga.
Perfectly said. You can see the creator's hand in works like Naruto, One Piece, or Dragonball, just like you can stories like Harry Potter or LotR.
There's absolutely no creator's hand visible in the MCU, except maybe Thor Ragnarok and GotG. And the comics industry is no better
>In the hands of a better writer Naruto could have been good instead of the mediocre.
Naruto started off great because all he did was copy hunter x hunter nearly 1:1 lmao
yeah it's why part 2 was so shit. togashi kept taking hiatuses and kishimoto ran out of stuff to steal
Shippuden had most of the series best moments, and best fights.
>Naruto meeting his father
>Hinata's confession
>Jiraiya's death
>A dunking on Sasuke
>Naruto vs Kakazu, and Shikimaru vs Hidan
>Hinata reminding Naruto of his ninja way one final time
>Naruto meeting his mother
>Making peace with Kurama
>The final Naruto vs Sasuke
>Evening Elephant and Night Gai
>Sage Training
All great stuff, all I ever went back to in the first part was the Waves arc, Hinata v Neji, Lee v Garra and Tsunade rescue arc.
Why is naruto there? Kishimoto always wrote all of it.
The majority of early Naruto was outlined by his editors. the genin exam, Sasuke and more were all suggested to Kishimoto.
Post timeskip is not spinoff
Star Wars was never good, if you ever thought it was you should have a nice day.
Kakuzu was such a great monstrosity but he was just jobber food for Nardo's kamehameha.
Night Gai would be a great warrior's death but NardoJesus had to arrive at the end a leave Gai a cripple.
I have no idea how a person can makes great premises and absolutely shit on them EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>HxH
am i a joke to you?
Naruto was still popular and sort of original. That's already a lot better than American comics which reuse everything all the time. Jump may burn through a lot of new shit every year, but at least they try some new stuff every now and then. And then there are also other publishers and magazines that try entirely different stuff again. Easily 90% or more will be shit, but that doesn't matter cause after 100 trials, you'll still end up with 10 good, (semi-)original series.
>Comics can be amazing but capeshit is bleeding it dry.
Unfortunately no. I did a marketing study and found out that 89% of all comics sold were Batman related. That's not batman vs capeshit, that's batman vs ALL comic books. Batman is singlehandedly holding American comics up. There's literally no industry of comic books.
It's been like that since the early 2010s following the Arkham games and DC's attempts to copy Marvel's Ultimate lineup. It's easy to push Batman thanks to the shitty movies and games than it is to get a good writer, editor and artists to work together as a unit. That's why the last good comic run DC had was Green Lantern and the team behind knew they did such a good job they wrote the ending to it.
Nobody even buys comics to read or display, it's just bought simply to collect by obsessive grifters thinking it will be worth something someday. Thinking anyone will come back to read comic books because of a good writer is delusional. Manga is all that exists. Comic book writers pissed off their customers too many times back in the 90s, why would anyone read them now.
Did the twittercuck include graphic novels?
there's only 3 good graphic novels
Much like manga, it all peaked in the early to late 80s. Dragon Ball's success was a curse.
>it all peaked in the early to late 80s
Somebody isn't reading Time Stop Hero
No one cares about Western Cape comics because they never end. There's good runs, but they will inevitably be followed by endless shit runs. Nothing sticks. Why invest interest in something that never ends or just gets worse? Manga can be shit too, but at least those will eventually end with character development locked in.
>but at least those will eventually end with character development locked in.
Who cares if its shit?
The people who read them.
The only people who want forever-characters are capeshitters.
>The people who read them.
Weebcucks? Again, who cares.
Your favorite character will be given graciously to someone who will write them as calling you a chud.
Never happened to me one actually.
And anything that is good will eventually be overwritten, removed from canon, or just turned into "remember that?" fodder. Eventually spiderman will say to your favorite character "wait, didn't you do that thing ages ago?" and they'll respond "ehhh, it's complicated".
Doesn't seem that much different than the stagnation most popular manga and anime go through. Decline in quality is inevitable.
All media sucks right now. They unleashed some serious brain rot in 2020.
Almost like real world experience is what makes or breaks great media. I wonder what sort of effect taking that real world experience away from pretty much everyone for two whole years has on the quality of media. Hm, something to think about.
Nah, it's pretty different, going from a competent writer to a fricking moron in the span of a week or 2 will always be more jarring than a slow decline.
Something sucking or ending is entirely different from it never having happened, becoming unrecognizable by choice, or becoming actively hostile towards the original.
When I learned that fricking Watchmen, of all things, got brought into the DC mainline and retconned... I understood the true depravity and depth of the way recons and endless status quo have ruined comics. Even a stand alone story considered one of the biggest masterworks of the genre isn't safe from having its characters dragged around, undone, repurposed and resold.
Meanwhile, Tanjiro killed Muzan, married Kanao and retired to live a quiet life in the countryside.
>Meanwhile, Tanjiro killed Muzan, married Kanao and retired to live a quiet life in the countryside.
This is why I like manga. It's self-contained written by one author from chapter 1 to chapter 500. If Oda fricked up One Piece, it's Oda who fricked up One Piece. It's not "oh well I don't consider chapter 600-700 canon because it was written by Kubo and he made Luffy too edgy!". It's not 10+ different series of Luffy eating the god-god fruit but in Series 7, The Incredible Luffy, he is actually force-fed the fruit instead! People want to read and discuss THE series and THE characters, not A series and an interpretation of the characters. There's no new life in comics, at least manga has newer popular stuff like Jujutsu Kaisen and Sakamoto Days. Most people regard 'comics' as the same 20th century superheroes because that's mostly what they've been and still are. You don't see new IPs starting in comic books and blowing up into animated series and movies like you do with capeshit and manga.
Exactly right. And there's variation too- comics are just capeshit in near modern times. Manga can be anything at all.
One of the most popular manga in the world when I was a kid was about playing Go.
Modern comics are homosexualy and israeli.
The games are too, but at least they're interactive.
Manga has sex and violence. Capeshit has violence but the sex is bizarre and very israeli. Comics have intentionally disgusting characters. Regardless of what cucks say, people like hot anime pussy.
> then you have to read like 50 different fricking versions all written by different people.
I meant the readers you amoeba brain.
If I see one more "MC kicked out of his party BUT THEN HE DISCOVERS HIS TRUE POWER" manga I'm going to make hiroshima look like a wet fart.
How long until we get western comics copying the isekai genre?
>Anon doesn't like cheap derivative Isekai
>Continues to read it though
But why? Do you also read Villainess stuff? That's only got one plotline too, I've got the entire genre filtered.
Because japan has effectively stopped making middle fantasy that isn't isekai and beggars can't be choosers.
Though its gotten to the point where I open mangadex once a week, have a cursory glance through some recent releases, then just give up.
Its getting hard to find good western fantasy novels now as well. Its remarkable how MUCH there is that gets released and yet it all gets drowned out by garbage like brendan sanderson.
>Because japan has effectively stopped making middle fantasy that isn't isekai
Frieren, Dungeon Messi, Danmachi, Redo of Healer, Witch Hat Atelier etc etc
But even if that was correct, there's still no reason to read the absolute bottom barrel derivitive shit unless it's specifically catering to your tastes. Read Drifters or Faraway Paladin, or 120 Year Elf or something
I already read all of those
Faraway Paladin was my favorite. But it was an isekai you cheeky brat are you doing this on purpose
Wow, the expensive shit got bought up when at a significant discount? Colour me shocked. Have you fricking seen the price tags on Warhammer shit and manga?
>anon completely misreads the post
>calls the poster illiterate
Classic Ganker moment
Then enlighten me, Black folk; how does that point then refute
>It's almost like people are tired of troony and sjw crap being shoved into their books about ripped cape men beating up bad guys.
?
You've shown the claimed result but not the cause. GP showed the cause. Your supposed observation (with no data) of the result is not relevant. It's also an irrelivant point as increasing the number of "woman" (read: troony) and Black person (failed english) readers in manga would in any event not explain the diminishment existing readers of comics. Which again was the discussion at hand.
Why taunt anyone for their English capabilities when you so clearly suck at it yourself? Nobody's going to applaud you for being able to comprehend the language when you're still making mistakes like 'irrelivant' or 'diminishment existing', thirdie.
>No argument
concession accepted. You can go back to your Black personmedia now.
I don't give a frick about your argument. I'm calling out your hypocrisy.
Western comics are complete shit but you guys are missing that the manga reaching western shelves is the stuff that's already proven successful in the Japanese market. You're not getting all the shit manga translated and sold in stores.
>but you guys are missing that the manga reaching western shelves is the stuff that's already proven successful in the Japanese market
Their capeshit, aka shonen. Yeah, we know.
We get all kinds of shit manga, what we get a lot less of is the niche stuff particularly of certain intended demographics. Or things attached to certain licenses. Like the rest of this yuribait Gunpla manga will never ever be in English because the non-Gundam IP series from the same author it shares its setting with was licensed so the fan translator dropped both. Arpeggio -was- licensed because it had an anime (at this point the physical releases were canceled and the website that has it is closing so oops) but nobody even thought for a second of doing The Return of Johnny Ridden from the same creator with a parallel release schedule.
Empty shelves are a sign of bad stock management not necessarily popularity.
Akira is the only manga that I can think that can be put alongside Watchmen or Swamp Thing.
Watchmen and swamp thing just barely belong on the same shelf as "my big boobied sister followed me to another world?!?!?"
The Climber
Oyasumi punpun
Homunculus.
These 3 seinen manga mog watchmen. Because it's about real issues about internal struggle. Not "superhero says frick" the comic
>Because it's about real issues about internal struggle. Not "superhero says frick" the comic
Congrats on missing the point about Watchmen. Not even gonna look up your dumbass mangas.
>claims swamp thing and watchmen are the pinnacle of quality
I was just trying to give you some actual taste. I know your glass house is fragile enough, don't go throwing rocks.
You couldn't even get Watchmen right, moron. Who gives a shit what you think.
Please for the love of god stop pretending you're anything other than a pseud midwit and read something actually intelligent other than another capeshit book about superheroes saying frick
>Please for the love of god stop pretending you're anything other than a pseud midwit and read something actually intelligent
Take your own advice moron,
The last truly great superhero vidya was Arkham City.
>outsells the entire western comic industry several times over
I don't understand how. The anime is great, but the manga has some of the worst manga art I've ever seen.
>don't understand how
You've looked at the manga. Have you looked at any current comics?
I haven't read a current comic in like a decade
god I want to sniff nezuko's smelly feet
me first
If you have a show to advertise your manga, you too can make millions off your shonen.
MCU made billions but their comic sales is still dogshit
Can you believe James Gunn advertising the books he was gonna adapt on twitter was one of the few actual cases of studios advertising the material?
the fact they weren't handing out comics in the cinemas was dumb as frick
That might actually decrease the future movies profitability once people find out how dogshit the source material is.
just make the comics good
comics are cheap
spend a few million making a fricking fantastic 10 issue run or something
>just make the comics good
They can. But they won't.
Comic can never be good because they have been taken over by writers that have no intend to make good comics but rather spread their own propaganda.
As opposed to a multimillion dollar movie universe you mean?
The anime is a direct advertisement of the manga, the studios behind the MCU went out of their way to limit the amount of capeshit influence on set.
I'm a Kindergarten teacher and I have students that watch this shit. In superhero day I had a student ask if they could dress up as that character. I told her you aren't allowed to wear a costume and it's only a shirt/merch but if she had any I'd allow it. And she did.
I don't even know what this shit is but I'm 75% sure they aren't old enough for it.
Shitty parents.
Come on, you're really gonna act like your dad din't let you watch Robocop or buy you a GTA game wehen you were a still a single digit kid?
Not as a fricking kindergarten age kid, no.
No, actually, he didn't. The general advice was "If it's R rated, it's for a damn good reason. If it's MA, I'll be the judge of whether you're ready and I'll be there with you. If it's M, you'll probably be fine, but I'll take a look first."
Worked out pretty well for me.
and yet you still ended up here
>No, actually, he didn't.
>If it's M, you'll probably be fine, but I'll take a look first.
You just said he did let you experience mature content.
Maybe he didn't let you play GTA specifically but he gave leeway with certain things that are deemed unsuitable while making sure it's not too far.
Which is probably the most based means of child rearing, your dad seems neat.
Its a shonen anime so the target demographic is Japanese middle - high schoolers, so like 12 year olds, so they're too young but also every kid wants to watch stuff thats too old for them. I doubt they would be very excited by Doraemon or Anpanman.
I and all my friends loved ATHF when I was in Kindergarten
They've got Kimetsu kids merchandise of all kinds in Japan. I kinda feel the same way, it's definitely more of a teenager series, but even if it's got violence and death, it's got completely upright morality and it's optimistic without a hint of cynicism.
For what it's worth, you could do a hell of a lot worse than Tanjiro for a kids role model. He's pretty much Superman in terms of personality, but without being OP
>superhero day
What the frick?
I couldn't care less about shouninshit, but as a weeb I can't help but laugh at how manga as a whole dominates the comic book market, much less how one single manga fricking hiroshima's it.
In the end it's just the japanese version of capeshit, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth I guess.
It absolutely isn't. Just read all the bullshit capeshit comes with here
.
Maybe the average shonen jump stuff that normies buy aren't very good either but they still don't come with the innate baggage the industry has plauged through capeshit.
>It absolutely isn't.
It is tho. It's literally shit peddled to kids.
This is true for almost every comic shop. A single popular manga nearly outsells the entire western comics industry combined. When my local comic shop moved to a bigger location they kept the Western comics section the same but doubled the manga section, doubled the Gunpla section, and tripled the Funko pop section. They don't do 40k but they do DND but only basic shit. They also do huge TCG business and do weekly magic meetings like a lot of stores do.
Western comics just fricking suck and are bloated to hell, every popular character has half a dozen on going series and there is always tons of big events and crossovers interrupting shit needing a guide to follow the reading order to get the complete story. It's just a bad customer experience, I would never ever pay for a Western comic.
Why do you know anything about your local comic shop? Are you an actual fricking consoomer?
I go there for Gunpla mainly because they have a nice loyalty program. Sometimes they do really good sales like one time on New Years every gunpla was 25% off, I spent like 400 bucks.
>I spent like 400 bucks
Jesus Christ, that's pathetic.
Gunpla isn't for poors, sorry kiddo, that's only one kit if you go big and high enough grade.
>spending 400 dollars on plastic garbage that just collects dust, breaks down and contaminates the air you breathe and water you drink, disrupting your endocrine system
You are quite literally a god damn consoomer, and you're proud of it.
Anon that term doesn't mean what you think it means, you are projecting quite hard. Model kits are fun, sorry that you are too spastic or poor to appreciate any sort of art.
Anon, have you ever heard of a "hobby"?
I don’t consider consumerism a hobby.
Anon the reason we can't move away from plastic is because it's cheap and doesn't break down on its own. The figure on his shelf will be exactly the same a hundred years from now.
The shit that's actually fricking you up is the rubber from car tyres spraying microplastics into the air every time a car breaks.
The only people that mock having to buy the shit you like are NEET's with really shit lives or people that live in third world countries in really shit places.
Not saying you can never complain about price, God knows how dumb gacha shit is. But if the inherent concept of currency being used to buy goods and products upsets you, I can't imagine you're in a good living situation.
If the situation is the latter, I hope things get better where you live. If it's the former, get a fricking job homosexual.
You're no better than the kind of people who collect shoes, or watches, or funko pops, or lego.
A hobby is meant to be productive, woodworking is a hobby, it produces something of substance. Consooming is a combination of hoarding and wallet-based humiliation rituals.
i don't do gunpla but i believe you build it and paint it
seems productive enough to me
Not him but painting miniatures is a hobby, yes. Buying them, no. Learn the difference, anon.
How would he paint and assemble these things without buying the materials? Create a plastic factory with no materials? Chop down a tree and whittle it into gundam parts, with tools he made himself of course?
sla 3d printing
You have to BUY a 3D printer, pay for the materials, and pay for electricity! CONSOOMER!
I design my own rough models in blender, cut them in kirita, and then 3D print them. Then I use exacto knives and dental files to detail the minis.
This sounds very cool anon can you post a picture of a mini you have made?
You PAID for a 3D printer, knives, printer spools, a table, and electricity. It's not a hobby, it's being a consooooomer.
>printing figures with fdm
no spools, only bottles of liquid cancer that smells like shit
Interesting. Still the shitpost stands. The point was the moron claimed that buying anything means it isn't a hobby. Which is idiotic.
yeah its all good, i was just being nitpicky
A hobby is any activity you enjoy doing in your free time anon. Though I honestly doubt you do anything productive like art or woodworking.
>wow, I sure do like spending my free time by devoting entire rooms of my house to my obsessive and all consuming desire to waste money and hoard pointless objects
I hope things get better for you anon, you can't be doing too well if you use your "productive hobby time" to get angry at anonymous people on a taiwanese basket weaving forum.
You've invented a scenario and gotten mad at it.
There is no practical difference between Consoomer A and Consoomer B.
It doesn't cost them any more to get Chinese sweatshops to make them, and they can jack up the prices five to ten times higher than comparable merchandise garbage.
>people enjoying their life?
>reeeeeeeeeeeeee
You think this is a joyful life? The consoomer will die surrounded by plastic figures of his favourite multi-million dollar franchises, or shoes never worn, or 6 foot piles of soda cans, or piles of stuffed plush characters that will catch the putrescence of decomposition.
>joy isn't subjective
low iq anon can't into abstract thinking
they'll die surrounded by plastic and you'll die alone with bare walls, your both the same
>You think this is a joyful life?
yes
>The consoomer will die surrounded by plastic figures
we all die anon
once your dead you won't care
>You think this is a joyful life?
Yes anon, for someone who enjoys it. The biggest factor in a lack of empathy is low intelligence, they don't understand so they get angry and attack. Everyone still dies the same.
>talked like a massive fricking homosexual
>gets told off
>just hops onto another discussion
every time with Black folk like that, I swear what do they gain by being this fricking dense then vanishing once they get clapped
>Why do shitposters who have nothing of substance to say just give up when they get BTFO'd?
They are subhuman anon, just laugh at their moronation and call it a day.
the lengths they go to defend their points, you almost start to think it's not a shitpost after all and that the person genuinely believes the shit they spew as fact
That image is me but with anime girls on the walls.
That's not a collection it's just a pile of crap. Organize that shit on a display and it'll be a collection. Bottom right just looks like a child's toy bucket.
Whether you put it in a glass case or throw it all around your house, you're still a hoarder, and a despicable excuse for a human being.
I agree, Transformers fans are degenerates, makes me sick.
Factually incorrect.
You're post's give me "NEET that wishes he is a Sigma male" vibes.
they sell plushies of obscure kirby characters?
Probably in Japan, so shipping costs might be a b***h depending where you live.
Damn those are cool kirby plushes
I have the Seraph and Mothman plush they have as well.
Yeah, coin and stamp collecting were never hobbies, haha....
A hobby is explicitly supposed to not be productive, anon. Chopping wood isn't a hobby. If it's productive then it's just labor. If you sell it then it's a job.
I do not buy for a single second your hobbies entail anything viewed as traditionally masculine or involving any form of physical labor like "woodworking".
morons, a hobby is something you do for fun. It's not "supposed" to be anything. If it happens to be productive or marketable then so be it.
Nope, it has to be primarily for the sake of leisure. There's stuff that's borderline, like cooking, but it's way out if you work at mcdonalds.
If I trade stocks for the fun of the game then it counts as a hobby
This is under the assumption people don't find leisure in high stress environments. All that "leisure" means is free time activity.
Some people find leisure in rock climbing or boxing.
If someone likes to rock climb but it's not their job and they do it in their free time, what would you call it?
Leisure can be stressful, controlled yet stressful hobbies can be a stress release because it's something you can actually solve, as opposed to most stressful things in life. Hand making model trains is fricking nerve wracking, it's still a hobby.
Just wait until you hear how much I spent on a doujinshi order last night.
Spending money on your hobby is normal. I've spent thousands on fishing over the years
>Picrel
KWAB maybe don't listen commies & peeminists!
>jews turn all the modern comic characters into lgbt minorities or women
>nobody buys the comics anymore
i dunno man, it's a mystery
Why do I get the feeling the vast majority of you losers don't read comics or manga for that reason, but just regurgitate the same shitposts you see.
>losers don't read comics or manga
now thats a new one
Shit on comics all you want, I have yet to find a manga that does it like Hellblazer.
This shit is supposed to be escapism. How the frick am I supposed to escape blacks, troons, and insane leftists by reading comic books lol
Comics are six dollars for eighteen pages of a story that may not continue past the next few months. That's maybe ten minutes of reading.
comics died with the death of superman. after that anyone reading them was a weirdo fanboy because they had now set the precedent that shit could be retconned whenever they felt like. whatever woke shit they added was just the cherry on top
>comics died with the death of superman.
Comics died with the New 52.
American comics suck, the comic store in my town shutdown a year ago and nobody gives a frick. They just go to the gaming store now and buy manga and tabletop bullshit. At first I was angry about it shutting down. But then I realized I didn't buy anything there anyway. I just liked it for nostalgia sake.
if anons want a fun/gamey hobby. you should look into fpv drones
you can even practice on your pc with simulators
read now, soulless gibbon.
quit arguing, click the x.
do something else
Why do chuds refuse to buy proud American-made products
Too much israelite shit
They suck
I fricking hate /tg/ so much its unreal
Will we see an end to progressive homosexualtry anytime soon? It seems like people are actually starting to get sick of it yet the media just keeps doubling down and pushing it harder and harder even when they lose money.
It won't end until the current crop of higher-ups are forced out of their positions or the companies they work for completely collapse.
Because it's one and go. And the majority of American comics fricking sucks ass to pick up and read
>Oh you don't get it, this is homosexual Mchomosexualson's run of Naruto!
>See here Naruto is actually an Uchiha also he starts at 19 years old and this was because during the Malediction Arc written 10 years ago by Chuck Sneedus the universe reset from the original, but the original Naruto is still here but as a clone with his memories
>For the grand majority of manga, it's a single author/single artist meanwhile comics schizo out and to continue your story you need to pick up WHOAREYOU #5-7 and FRICKYOU #2 to get the full story because the story jump cuts constantly
>Artists also change randomly all the fricking time with those random moronic mini-stories by a completely different artist at the end they keep pushing for some reason
While moronic retcons happen in manga all the time as well at least it's usually the same author doing it, hack or not, you'll have 100000 homosexuals in the comics industry trying to jump off their favorite guy or write more shit. Only thing that gave me a similar feeling of frustration was shit like Devilman and all it's sequels reiterating on each other.
To expand on this, it's the same reason why normalgays can't stomach current marvelslop where they have to do their homework with fricking Disney plus subscriptions to watch the literalwho shows everyone has.
Just wait a few months until they do a soft reboot and bring all the original avengers back from dead to give them the true comic "nothing matters not even death" experience.
I'm honestly expecting something like that because Disney knows they burned zoomers hard and they probably want to repeat the Infinity War buildup again where unrelated movies can just randomly shit out 1 billy+ for the alphoomers, it's pretty much par for course for comic writing anyway
There have been so many rumors about them bringing back Chris Evans Captain America and RDJ Iron Man as their OH SHIT BUTTON, it only gets more and more likely with every flop and The Marvels is flopping hard as frick.
There's rumours they're bringing back Iron Man and Captain America, like a releat of No Way Home's success.
Worst thing is it'd definitely work. People would turn out in droves for the novelty of another Tony Stark Avengers movie
Just read creator-owned
Creator-owned comics have the same issues with quality, just with less multiverse autism.
I'd add Cutie Honey on that list. Devilman and Cutie Honey are the only mangas I've read that had cancellations and reimaginings.
Nagai stuff is different because a lot of it was conceived as what they would these days call a multimedia project, and when that's the case different versions of the same IP are a given.
oh wow, someone wrote more or less the same thing i did like an hour and a half ago but was way funnier about it. neat. lol
the explanation you started into about how homosexual Mchomosexualson's Naruto is an Uchiha and the story starts when he's 19 because during the Malediction Arc written 19 years ago by Chuck Sneedus and the universe reset but the original Naruto is still here with all his original memories too is spot on. that's hilarious. lmao
>you need to pick up WHOAREYOU #5-7 and FRICKYOU #2 to get the whole story
frickin' kek
Thanks anon I liked your post too.
Seriously it's not like this is a weeb vs west thing, I've read comics when I saw a short blurb that interests me like Batman eating burgers with Jason Todd but people come to the same conclusions when you read more than that short story where that was in and it goes completely off to a random place to everyone's confusion
manga has a few steps involved before it reaches printed books. The reason the books exist is because they know it will sell. Comics go straight from idea to sale. We don't have Wizard magazine or anything similar anymore. Comics ARE the sample material before a graphic novel arrives years down the line.
>Go to new comic shop
>Set up a pull box for like 5-8 different series
>Keep up on it for a month or two so they think I'm serious
>Start showing up less regularly, buying the built up books all at once
>Never go to the store again
>Store goes out of business
I've done this like 4 times.
Nobody knows what any of these things mean so they can't get trolled by it.
>all the 40k shit gone
usual warhammer piggy behavior
I will spend thousands on Warhammer and there is nothing you can do to stop me. As a israelite once said, "oink oink".
I mean, at 75% off, that's a major resale opportunity.
B-but FOR THE EMPOROR haha
*shits pants aggressively*
people complaining about comic books having too many stories are the same people that complain about games having too much content
Gaming is oversaturated. Million games exist dude. Even if you wanted to you could never play all of them. This industry is fricking gay.
Comic book stories are the equivalent of collecting 500 feathers/flags, so sure, it fits.
All of the content in Starfield is as shallow as a puddle. Maybe make the content good before copy pasting it throughout the world?
I hate that western comics do shit where the cover looks really cool and then inside the artstyle is completely different and looks like garbage
Blame the 90's speculation boom for that one.
>Treating episodic content exactly like narrative coninuity driven content
moron.
>Blame the 90's speculation boom for that one.
explain further
looks better on a shelf for resale?
It's one of the many things that help collapse the industry but basically
>In the 90's some news were going around about how old OG prints of comics like Action Comics 1 were being bought by collectors for literal ten of thousands of dollars
>Consumers begin to think that if some random old comic would be worth tons of cash in the future, whose to say a comic released now won't be worth thousands later down the line
>People start buying comics en masse as "investments"
>Marvel, DC, Image and Dark Horse all see this and get dollar signs in their eyes
>Begin to release a whole bunch of limited edition alt covers to build up speculation hype and sucker people to buy mutiple versions of the same comic
>After a while of doing this the general population realize they are being scammed
>Everyone all at once start buying comics and leads to all comic companies losing millions since they spent so much money on alt covers and huge productions of comics
Since then the industry has tried to recover but one of the practices that stuck was having diffrent artist's make covers for comics they didn't work on as a means to easily attract consumers.
I don't think the US comic industry has EVER used the same guy for cover artist and story pencils if they have multiple staff artists. Like you can take Spider-Man's debut where Ditko drew the story but Kirby drew the cover, and even that is a relatively late date to pick. Mind you up until about the mid-90s the artists also tended to draw "on model" rather than all having their own wacky styles.
>mangacucks rn: IF DOESN'T START FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THE READER WILL BE TOO moronic AND LOSE THE PLOT
Meanwhile, my favorite anime's greatest hit compilation.
Comics aren't just dying. Disney is literally imploding.
>killed star wars
>killed star wars toys, literally sits on shelves for years and stores stopped carrying most of it
>mcu is worn out and they've been killing it with wokeshit forever
>marvel toys now dont sell, same as star wars
Comics have been shit long before Disney buying out Marvel. And this isn't even a marvel issue or related to the live action movies or anything like that, DC is guilty of everything else as well, everything people have been complaining about in threads have been longstanding meta for writing in comics
This, the last time comics were even remotely good was in the early 00's. Even then they still kinda sucked.
Reminder that Marvel literally died in the 90s and was coasting by with movie licensing money. Comic books are a zombie that's been kept alive with constant electric shocks for 30 years.
Want to know what's so funny?
>Comics ALREADY died
>This obtuse method of asking readers to study 15 other ongoing comics to maximize sales FAILED and readers hated it!
>Marvel was succeeding with logical sequels followed up with 1 big Avengers movie
>Begin streaming a dozen tv shows that directly influence new movies
>Nobody understands who anyone is
>The same exact issue that comic readers complained about
>Still being repeated.
HILARIOUS.
You're goddamn right, Anon. But imagine being the Execs at Marvel where everything, even the most mediocre garbage like Captain Marvel was a billion dollar hit.
Someone suggests making even more content, making it cheaper and getting people even more invested. There's no way they'd ever turn it down- "Strike while the iron is hot!" They all told themselves, before striking so many times the metal broke. Nevermind bending it in all kinds of different directions to get as many demographics as possible. "White guys and comic fans will already watch, what we need is to get in front of..."
True, they were in control of an endless golden age. it would have been impossible to tell them what a stupid idea it is.
Idk what they even call this...I'd describe it as "media tangling" where you demand customers to purchase a never ending list of additional stories that are all tangled together somehow into a cluster frick of incomprehensible storylines.
Imagine knowingly shoving more than half of your store full of shit that you know does not sell..
LMAO
American comics: everyone is gay and has small breasts.
>used to be able to read the entirety of kaiji online
>now all of them cut off at about the halfway mark of gambling apocalypse
what the frick happened? i just want to read kaiji again
translator becoming a born again christian
everything should be on mangadex
only up to 23 is in english for some reason
and i cant read this ridiculous language (spanish)
The biggest problem with Western comics is the capeshit genre. It's always the same superhero shit with the same characters over and over again.
If you pick up a manga you can get pirates, mechas, robots, elves and goblins, cool guys with giant swords, slice of life, even historical stuff, it's all new and interesting stories.
Now compare that to the average western story, wow it's the same fricking superhero, he can fly and shoot lazers and he saves people. Not like I've been seeing this shit for decades. A shame, really, especially if you consider that there are still actually skillful artists.
Yup there's something for everyone. I know comics aren't JUST capeshit (I remember reading some mystery shit about a haunted house, mage council, and Crossed to see what the frick it is), but the vast majority is straight up capeshit regurgitated by a billion writers which isn't to say manga doesn't have its own similar problems (romcoms and isekai are regurgitative and self-incestual writing environment where people are just doing the same exact shit).
Also artists changing is fricking annoying, so are plotlines that jump to different issues by someone else because homosexual #5 and homosexual #6 has a huge timeskip meant to be expanded more about what the frick they did in some jobber's side series
>The biggest problem with Western comics is the capeshit genre. It's always the same superhero shit with the same characters over and over again.
The world isn't just DC and Marvel, moron.
I think the best way to illustrate this is to compare a comic and a manga with the same name.
The Children's Crusade by Neil Gaiman
Innocent Boy's Crusade by Usamaru Furuya
The former is a weird Sandman tie-in comic that mainly centers on two boys who call themselves detectives who are recruited by a young girl to help her strange town of children who've been living for hundreds of years find her younger brother. Most of it is allegorical and mystical with its basis essentially entirely in fantasy and previous works from Gaiman and other authors.
The latter is a manga about one of the accounts surrounding the actual historical Children's Crusade in 1212, following a group of young boys on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem with the leader of the group supposedly being chosen by God. As you can guess, it goes poorly.
I still have no idea why Gaiman's comic is called The Children's Crusade outside of a few references and names.
The movies were doing great until after avengers wrapped up.
Simple answer:The games are still using the stories from before woketardism and the ones that aren't the novelty hasn't worn off yet. Comic book movies had this once in a lifetime perfect storm of a strong desire to see something good for once and normies pretending to like nerd things. Had a 10 year run making bank. Now it's over and marvel is left with the woketardism shit nobody wants to see.
Comics in general it's about who can they make gay or pander too then making money because the comics are just a legacy business propped up by the movies and merchandising for the big two..
What are those leftovers in the Warhammer section? Tau sissies?
>invincible gets shilled as the new hip comic lately
>check it out
>same comic shlock except now its for adults which means not a single character is likable or really that compelling
Invincible goes to complete shit like halfway through. If they actually try and adapt the story faithfully that shit is going to be a dumpster fire.
The comic industry's fixation on making everything full color is its downfall.
In Japan, you can get a weekly 500-page Shonen Jump tome for less than the price of a single 24 page comic.
Western comic producers will publish things like this and still wonder why their entire industry is on life support
That can't be real. That's like a fricking parody page /misc/ would make.
That's just the tip of the iceberg
how did it even sell that many in the first place
>34,000 sales
And I'm already disappointed in humanity it moved that many units.
34,000 sales should be more than enough to turn a profit
A decade ago I would've said manga outclassed western comics utterly.
With the current state of manga? IDK maybe it's a cyclical thing. Japanese fiction is fricking terrible these days. To the point that people in Japan are reading Korean stuff. Maybe comics used to be good in the 70s and 80s?? I wouldn't know.
manga and anime are like an ouroboros eating itself until it gets forced to actually be good again. However the koreans/chinks are better at making trashy series than japs
Korean shit is god awful.
Yes, which should inform you about how bad the state of manga is right now. I can count on one hand the series worth reading in the past 7-8 years.
>manga is bad
if you only read isekai slop, maybe
>Maybe comics used to be good in the 70s and 80s?? I wouldn't know.
Actually, yeah. The 70s was when Marvel put more focus on their heroes and their relationships with others, in order to stake a claim for themselves against DC and it worked. The 80s was when DC in a fit of desperation hired new writers to deconstruct their old heroes and make them more captivating to the readers, which in turn lead to more focus on the abstract and supernatural.
>With the current state of manga?
Full of wish-fulfillment "I died and was reborn in a fantasy world where everybody likes me and I'm basically a GOD" bullshit.
Eminence in Shadow is the only one that does it right because it's parodying itself while still being entertaining.
>Muh jap isikai or what ever
homie the last starfighter was from the 70s blame the west
Nah, it's a connecticut in king arthurs court.
Isn't it "A Yankee in King Arthus Court"?
Every isekai is the same shit, even the ones that try and subvert with the whole "oh no im a fricking loser even in another world" or "im in another world but my skill sucks for combat and everybody hates me for it 🙁 boo hoo" always end up doing the same
>"Actually I was more overpowered than anyone ever and I have unlimited money now"
>Heh I will set myself apart from everything else by SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS and being SELF AWARE
>Oh here's the tsundere heroine by the way
Even Ganker falls for that pitrap constantly
>You don't get it guys... this MC is completely different from the rest! He's aware of all the tropes and tells it like it is!
>Still acts like a moronic teenager with no awareness when it comes to romance
>Oh but he held hands once. LE BASED!!!!
Then on the otherhand is rape powerlevel manga where it's only good for smut
Also MC having the "weakest ability that everybody including the stuck-up nobles make fun of him for, only to reveal it's actually super strong and btfo everyone to their wide eyed basedface surprise" is such a meme
>Also MC having the "weakest ability that everybody including the stuck-up nobles make fun of him for, only to reveal it's actually super strong and btfo everyone to their wide eyed basedface surprise" is such a meme
You know what so le quirky subversion I want? I want a manga where the protagonist is the strawman party leader who kicked out the protagonist. You could either start it off with "not this shittu again" and then reveal he was entirely justified and the "hero" is extremely incompetent, or he can be just as keikaku cereal box villain tier manipulating everyone around him.
If your title is longer than 5 words you should be blacklisted on the spot. Killed, even.
>Eminence in Shadow is the only one that does it right because it's parodying itself while still being entertaining.
Eminence in shadow is good not because its a parody but because it doesn't pretend to be anything other than a teenager's ridiculous edgy power fantasy. The being a parody is just an excuse to indulge in it. I wish more manga could grasp that concept.
Just filter isekai and shounen and stick to seinen. You're reading the equivalent of skibidi toilet stories.
Time was you would be annoyed that good manga had rushed endings because the publisher wanted to make room for good new releases.
Now the new releases suck fat wiener and the only things worth reading are shambolic zombie series which began many years ago. Manga is dead.
I can't take this post seriously when it's posted alongside AIslop.
Recommend me some good Manga. Don't worry about the genre, I'm not picky.
Pluto's got an anime right now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_(manga)
Dorohedoro
Dungeon meshi
Golden kamuy
Oyasumi punpun
The Climber
Homunculus
Spy x family
Chainsaw man.
>Dungeon meshi
PLEASE CITIZEN LEARN TO COOK
PLEASE START A FAMILY
ITS NOT SO BAD BEING A CORPORATE SLAVE JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE GOOD FOOD YOU'LL COOK WHEN YOU GET HOME ON YOUR HOUR COMMUTE STUFFED INTO A TRAIN AFTER WORKING 14 HOURS
PLEASE OUR BIRTHRATES ARE REACHING CRISIS LEVELS
I am starting to feel certain that half of the manga in japan is funded by the japanese government
While I've seen manga like that, how does dungeon meshi support any of those things? There's no romance in the entire manga, the heroes are all broke adventurers, and the food is all made with fake fantasy ingredients.
I'm being hysteric. I just could only enjoy half of the chapters being a fantasy recipe book for so long. It feels like it distracts from an otherwise very unassuming fantasy adventure. I just want Lodoss again. Just RPG adventure about likable characters without any gimmicks.
How many chapters did you read? The actual recipe sections take more of a backseat to the adventure as you go along, but the themes of food, the dungeon life cycle, and eating monsters actually becomes very plot relevant. It finished up with a very satisfying ending not too long ago, I'd recommend giving it another chance.
Yeah, I read up to the latest TLs a few years ago and enjoyed it, then a few months ago read it again from the first chapter and got put off by the pacing being mangled by the cooking sections.
>It finished up with a very satisfying ending not too long ago
Oh nice. Okay then I'll give it another go.
Childless people are failures.
Dungeon Meshi is barely about that anymore than Shokugeki no Souma is about legitimately learning to cook and not just an excuse for tosh to draw softcore porn (Jan is better)
This is more moronic than seeing the MC have kids in the epilogue of a manga and starting to onions out and go
>LE ABE PROPAGANDA?? HOLY BASED HAVE SEX
Imagine being this up in arms about a manga you've clearly never read. It's a manga about turning monsters into food. They're literally in a dungeon, fighting monsters. Not living a domestic life. If that's enough to make you rebel and thrash against invisible puppet strings you think are trying to control you, you need to be on meds.
Drifters
isnt that dead/on perma hiatus?
Eh, it's worth a read and not too long.
Bonnouji
The Fable
The Climber
The Legend Of The Strongest Man Kurosawa
Ping Pong
Nick & Lever
Vagabond
Blood on the Tracks
A Bride's Story
Girl's Last Tour
Golden Kamuy
Dungeon Meshi
these too
Made in Abyss, Mieruko-chan, Gokushufudou.
Monster
Taihou to Stamp (Fan translation died around vol. 6, so if you wish to continue learn Japanese)
Green Blood (Manga got canned around vol. 5 or so. If you're bothered by unfinished series skip this one)
Reform with no wasted Draws (warning, it's Mahjong)
My Clueless First Friend (An ongoing series)
Cromartier Highschool
last one i read was space brothers and i really enjoyed it, so that one
Read Spirit Circle. Trust me. Sengoku Yoko too.
Everything by that author is stellar, but those two are a cut above.
One comparable scenario that comes to mind for those who read manga is anyone who has ever followed OPM live and had to watch those homosexuals constantly "redraw" because he didn't like that his yummy waifu got killed or made a guy look bad so he changes events that happened when he's already like 10 chapters past that point. It's just frustrating
One punch man has to be the most mismanaged mangas ever. Literal years spent on an arc that nobody gives a frick about, including entire months of redraws.
Like imagine delaying interesting content so you can re-release FILLER. What the frick, murata?
ok but why is manga so bad now?
The only thing that's really changed is the proliferation of the internet. Maybe that's it? Wider distribution means more shit and less talent concentration?
I hate to say this, but even in Japan its the bottom of the barrel slop that gets popular too. Moeshit and fight shonen are king.
Back in the day you had extremely intelligent and tasteful curators who would bring back the cream of the crop. Now everything is uploaded with no filter, and because manga is currently a gold mine you have an abundance of new artists just dumping half assed ideas and copying everything.
It's a sea of mediocrity. Go on any manga website and it feels like 99% are ai generated trash
Because you expect the taste of 13 year olds on the internet to guide you to anything good when you yourself are not a 13 year old.
the jojolands is really good so far, I love the vibes, It feels more like diamond is unbreakable than jojolion did
You mean the one with a gay Jojo and his troony brother? His LITERAL troony brother? The one where they immediately kill cops like some edgy black lives matter fanfiction?
It's the closest shit to an American comic as it gets.
anon you've either never read jojo and you just looked up the first chapter to find something to b***h about, Or you read jojo and like part 9 and are just trying to stir shit
Remember when part 2 opened with joseph getting his wallet stolen by a black thief, then he beat the shit out of the cop for harassing the thief before becoming bros with the dude?
Jodio and Dragona are also both delinquent little shit criminals, Of course they'd be enemies of the cops, and because jojo is a series with generally heroic protagonists even if they get more nuanced and less strictly good, It's still a series where the good guys beat the shit out of evil guys, so the cops are going to act like people you want to see the protagonists frick up with their stands. It's that simple, frick off with that shit and engage me in an actual conversation like a man.
>Huh remember when they also had issues with a cop?
Shut the frick up homosexual. Jojo is fricking dead. Don't try to pass off your delusional headcanon onto me.
>Delusional headcanon
The frick are you talking about you moron? What the frick did I just say? Engage with me, Black person, Don't be pathetic.
Thread is 5 seconds from archiving. Go frick yourself troony
Go read jojo moron, It's good, You'll like it. Now stop shitposting.
Literally nobody on Ganker likes jojolands. It's literally just troony shit. have a nice day troony.
You wouldn't be acting like this if you read the manga you're trying to talk to me about. Go have a genuine conversation with someone, You'll feel better. And go read some manga, literally any of it. You shouldn't be in a thread about manga if you don't read any. And don't follow the hivemind, Make your own opinions. Who cares what fricking Ganker thinks?
>Even japanese supremacists are admitting that manga is in decline
Holy shit its so over.
anon just look at Ganker if you want to know the current state of manga lol
If you read Ganker you'll come to think that literally all manga is just about characters kneeling before each other over and over, like a chinese court scene.
Looking at Ganker is only useful if you want to see the effects of moderator meddling.
Ganker lost the right to talk shit about Ganker when they have 1000000 shounenshit generals infesting the board filled with literal unironic tiktokers
How the frick do you think that happened dumbass
Nah that shit is on fricking them. Ganker didn't get a free pass to pass the buck to /LULZ/ when /LULZ/ turned this into the feelhomosexual board a decade ago
What a stupid comparison, you stupid human being.
>nooooo not the honor of Ganker
Peak of self-moderation by the way
And rampant schizophrenia.
Manga is fine. Even just looking at ultra mainstream: last week was probably one of the best weeks of Shounen Jump in years, with almost every series being a complete banger. This week was almost as good.
Literally all of these are shit. I don't believe you.
Sakamoto Days is great.
Honestly, I think the bigger issue is that comic readers are all fart-huffing c**ts who drive away anyone who's not also a fart-huffing c**t obsessed with superheros.
Meanwhile I've had conversations about Baki at the fricking gym.
/dbs/ is the only good thing about Ganker. Mexicans and Brazilians shitting themselves over a series that hasn't been good since 1994 is glorious pastime.
I wish dbzspics would stay on Ganker and stop parasitizing themselves to other series especially on Ganker
[UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON ISRAEL???]
Capeshit peaked in the 50s and 60s.
Comics officially and irreversibly went to shit in the 70s when they started adding crossover garbage like the Justice League and the Avengers, along with timeliness, multiverse bullshit, etc.
Capeshit comics have been in this slump for over half a century now.
People like manga better because a manga is going to be its own self-contained story. You don't need to have read 7 unrelated manga to understand what the frick is going on and there's basically no chance that Goku and Naruto could come along and randomly stick their dicks into the story.
Literally just read creator-owned
You can find plenty self-contained comics outside of Marvel and DC
Those that are good are few and in-between because most of them are just pitches for movies and tv shows. Image is creator owned, but most of their shit are just vehicles for adaptations.
Manga has a few advantages over Western comics.
first is that manga generally have a beginning and an end, they don't reboot the same characters ad infinitum.
second is that manga generally have one set artstyle that evolves and improves the longer that mangaka has been working on their story. you're never gonna go to pick up the next issue of your favorite manga to find they've completely gutted and remixed the artstyle cause they hired a new illustrator.
third is that manga almost never do crossovers that require you to pick up a few Chapters of an entirely seperate manga to continue following along. at worst they'll do a feature length tie-in movie or an OVA that are canon but aren't included in the manga.
i learned this reading Ultimate Spider-Man and listening to how people talk about other Spider-Man runs. i love Peter Parker, but comic book authors treat him rough across the board. it's a longstanding meme that they won't let Peter be happy. they just straight up killed him in Ultimate outta nowhere and replaced him with Miles. what bothered me the most though was that every now and then the artstyle would change entirely without warning as different illustrators rotated on and off the team. you read 100 issues that look like this-
to this
I for one am happy to see pithomosexualry being more common
-and then you pick up the next issue and it looks like this now and you're just fricking stuck with it. it's maddening. i really like Western comic books, but goddamn do i wish they'd take a couple cues from the Japanese when it comes to illustrating their comics.
Nice Venture Bros cameo
i kinda lost the plot getting sidetracked by the art thing, but yeah, there are just several things that manga do that make them easier and more enjoyable to follow than Western comics. i don't want Marvel to write one Spider-Man continuity and then retire him like the Japanese have done to Goku and Naruto, but it'd be cool to get a longform story that Peter ends up happy at the end of every now and then.
i don't think American comics should stop doing crossover events either, it's just kinda an objective truth that sometimes there's gonna be a little continuity gap between two issues of Spider-Man because he showed up in X-Men last week and advanced the plot there instead. so when you go to complete your collection of Spider-Man comics, you're gonna need an issue of X-Men here and an issue of Avengers there. unless they're all included in an omnibus or something.
and then peter starts huffing butts so i gotta buy that comic too so i know what's going on
>. i don't want Marvel to write one Spider-Man continuity and then retire him like the Japanese have done to Goku and Naruto
I do. Why the frick has Peter never researched how he got his powers? Why hasn't he even sourced his powers. Why is he just a new York tourist attraction instead of an international enterprise. There's so many avenues to end Peter. He needs to fricking retire.
yeah but just imagine if one piece naruto crossover fuuuuuuuuuuck
They already did in a for fun fan movie that's very obviously just fanservice. Crossover stuff is better for the realm of Jump force video games or small fun stuff like that, not actually officializing it to be legit.
>you're never gonna go to pick up the next issue of your favorite manga to find they've completely gutted and remixed the artstyle cause they hired a new illustrator
But this is exactly what happened when Miura died.
>it's a longstanding meme that they won't let Peter be happy.
Peter met a multiversal group of Spidermem and every fricking one of them was the same "He's always screwed over, but he keeps going anyway!" shit. One has terminal cancer, another is raising the kids of the man his wife cheated with, another just lost everything, etc etc
Meanwhile, Tokyo Ghoul does the exact same "Dressing the hero through the mud, showing off his perseverance as he keeps going" shtick and it resolves into a happy, fulfilled ending.
You don't want to use TG here, the scene was alright sure but Ishida Sui completely fricked the surrounding parts
Name ONE good american comic that hasn't been memed into relevancy due to a popular adaptation.
Bone
>american
And here I was about to say Judge Dredd.
Sucks that they stopped making Complete Case Files for the US. I can import but I liked being able to visit a book store and pick up a new volume when I was done reading the last one.
Calvin and Hobbes because Bill Watterson locked down the rights right away to prevent greedy israelite studios from ruining his series. If he hadn't there would have been tons of merch, animated series, movies, later remade animated series, 3d animated movies, just endless trash like what happens to all comic series.
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
All I know is that good manga and anime stopped being made around the turn of the century. If it wasn't on Toonami in the mid-2000s, then it deficiently wasn't worth caring about.
Western comics are total shit and it's nothing to do with sjw politics and entirely how they're made up. Lots of text, boring and overcrowded panels that tell you little, terrible pacing and really, really bad writing. I hate the way western comics constantly feel the need to BOLD words so you can feel the EFFECT of their MEANING only it comes across like they're TREATING you as a CHILD. Even the best the West has to offer is total gunk compared to the east.
It's not a rocket science that manga do better because it doesn't sell like 1 fricking story for 30 bucks, but actually like a full arc per volume or 2 and is cheaper, western comics are such a trash
Thanks for reminding me that I need to catch up on the Golden Kamuy anime, its a great series, nice setting, nice characters, good atmosphere, va's good, I like it a lot.
>Find an incredibly interesting, beautifully drawn manga
>Two chapters in absolutely loving it
>Axed next week
Fricking asiatics
Maybe the artist was focusing too much on the art and couldn't meet deadlines.
>Find an incredibly interesting, beautifully drawn manga
>Read all the available fan translated chapters
>Forget about it for years and can't remember the name or what happened
Many such cases!
There was a fairly violent manga about roller skating punk kids in a cyberpunk world or something. There was drugs in it I think. I get the same kind of feeling about it.
Air Gear?
No, that's usually the first thing I run into when I go looking for it. It had a very dirty underground gang hoodlum aesthetic.
Shirabansou Deribaria
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Thanks, but I don't think so. I remember it specifically being about a gang of kids trying to survive on the streets amid a lot of crime. I also can find very little about that manga in particular so I can't imagine how I would have read it if it was that one.
For some reason I remember thinking it was probably written by a BL author. Not because it had BL, it just had that kind of vibe.
https://mangadex.org/title/f7d9423a-866f-4fc5-b46a-8f17d638f78b/fire-candy?tab=chapters
AHA
FOUND IT
Here you go anons you can read it too.
it already has had a good run but I hope that Vagabond gets properly finished some day
Anyone else adore manga, yet somehow not really enjoy anime? Just feels like an inferior experience and somehow tedious.
Depends, seasonal stuff is generally just adaptations of things I would rather read the source material of but there are some good ones out there. Too bad there's only like two or three originals each season, and generally they aren't very good. Kamierabi is pretty good though
Same. I don't understand the appeal of anime. Most music is half assed and I have a hundred playlists I made that help me read shit. I can scroll past useless filler, and I can finish a story in a night. But an anime will stretch everything out. By the time they get through half of the first chapter they end the episode.
i play anime on my second monitor and sort of watch and absorb by osmosis. I can't stand actively reading manga. that's what feels tedious to me, like a waste of my time because it can't be multi-tasked.
I understand that and I have a "secondary media" tier for multitasking as well
But I've never been able to do it because, you know, it's subtitled. You have to give it your full attention or you'll miss the lines. It's part of why I've never taken to it as much as tv
I think anime just suffers way more from the same storytelling/pacing shortfalls.
If an anime has a shitty joke that goes on too long (frick you hirano), needless repetition, dragged out boring exposition, etc you have to either speed up the playback or start skipping back and forth until you find where it stops.
In a manga you just read faster for a bit.
You should skip made in abyss. It's literally made by a pedophile. I know we're on a place that laughs off dicky threads but made in abyss is actually over the line. It's also shit and ends horribly. Whoever recommends it is a pedo
Look I don't think this is an Ganker specific issue. The best threads are always cross pollinated.
I'll have the best television discussions on /k/ and the best videogame discussions on Ganker and so on. Like how Ganker threads are usually better than their /vg/ equivalent, just more rare.
It's because you avoid the shitters who make that topic their whole personality.
>Like how Ganker threads are usually better than their /vg/ equivalent
this except the exact opposite
The creation of /vg/ and its consequences have been a disaster for imageboards
you have no idea
that's interesting
just remove all jannies and let it ride
>he doesnt know
anon that entire general is bots. Some homosexual hates /vn/ and setup a botnet to permanently render it unusable for like half a decade now
are you telling me the anon asking what vn will make him fart a hole in his sheets is a bot?
no that one is an actual human being
Better quality than the pc building general bot though.
I'd care but the VN scene, much like manga, is a shadow of what it was in the 2000s.
That's different, PC style bishoujo games are legitimately a sunset industry to the point we have a "remember the good old days" anime.
VNs weren't big enough to have an ironic, subversive death spiral like manga is going through.
/vg/ is nothing but deranged trannies
I remember when /vg/ is created and everybody was clapping about how now they could finally talk about vidya without shitposting. Fast forward to 2023 and they're just hives of insane drama between people cutting themselves in FFXIV threads or it basically being /vmg/ in spirit complete with mongrelizations of DBZ and waifugay ritualposting
>mongrelizations of DBZ and waifugay ritualposting
fricking hate this shit especially when they bring it to Ganker
It took me completely by surprise. I remember my reaction being "Oh.. So I should talk about STALKER there now?" and lo and behold, STALKER, which was the staple of Ganker at the time, is now rarely even mentioned on Ganker.
They really said that?
I feel like /vg/'s endgame is super predictable. The same people, 'regulars', accumulate. They run out of topics to discuss. Hence the thread goes to complete shit.
The only generals worth a damn are the ones for new releases and that sweet spot lasts ~100 threads or so.
>The same people, 'regulars', accumulate. They run out of topics to discuss. Hence the thread goes to complete shit.
this shit happens on Ganker too where anons have 'comfort' topics/threads and will continuously spam threads about them and then keep bumping them until they eventually reach bump limit where it can finally fricking die. Then they whine that the threads are shit as if a completed game from years ago has enough shit to discuss to fuel daily threads
Yeah but at least on main boards like Ganker or even sub ones like /vrpg/ you'll have new people stumbling in.
Discovery is so rare on /vg/, and when it does happen the newbie gets driven away by angry regulars who don't want to discuss old topics. It reminds me of old bulletin forums.
>The same people, 'regulars', accumulate. They run out of topics to discuss
>Then they whine that the threads are shit as if a completed game from years ago has enough shit to discuss to fuel daily threads
This is created by /vg/. Sometimes I see a thread on Ganker about a game I've never heard of from 10 years ago, give it a crack, and it becomes one of my favorites. No one is looking at the front page of /vg/ and if anyone did I'd call the police because they'd clearly be mentally unhinged and a threat to society. Sometimes I am still surprised that there are anons who never played Arx Fatalis even though that's exactly how I found it- randomly seeing a thread about it on Ganker a few years ago that probably died after like 80 posts to make way for some anon's (1) and done.
/vg/ endgame you can see coming from a mile away was that yeah with people circlejerking and making literal unironic fanfiction pastebins.
Things have a naturaly expiration date and you can see the stink coming from some things like the Needy Overdose threads where people start devolving into talking about their favorite menhara vtubers or blogposting about crazy chicks. /vg/ gives shit like this a permanent home that they will NEVER LEAVE OR ALLOWED TO DIE like /ksg/. Even more embarrassing is when they know a general is about to die so they literally just combine with adjacent generals to survive.
Well Ganker was (and still is) still rife with shitposting at the time, so I guess I can understand the mindset
Mobile games infest everything they're associated with
>he actually thinks /vg/ is good
disgusting
I had an autism moment and read it in reverse. /vg/ is trash and all its posters should be perma range banned
every vidya board is trash but at least Ganker is fun sometimes, every other one is too hyperfocused on a specific target and it draws in mega spergs
It happens when you get off the radar of the of the 24/7 schizos and just have a nice thread about something else that everyone who's genuinely interested want to talk about it.
Ganker is pretty well beyond that meme, the quality of the board dropped precipitously in recent years due to policy interventions to replace niche interest threads with mainstream garbage you could talk about anywhere because it's better for advertising.
only western comic I ever liked was that darth vader one
but I wouldn't call it good, you know? it was guilty pleasure tier
The Darth Vader comic has been keeping click bait star wars comic youtubers fed for years now. You watch a couple videos about comics and suddenly star wars comic videos get appear for you everywhere.
Why is every story made by Americans so cringe?
>page 8
bye bye homos
Its almost time yeah. I read a many series of Crossed. None of them are good and I wouldn't recommend them to anybody.
terrible series yeah
just didn't wanna post the anal rape and kids getting vivisected
Crossed was your standard zombie story that only got by with shock value that gets pretty stale
Every series is the same shit too though and all the characters are awful. Each one is either
>"Wow the character is a good person in a world gone to hell, I sure hope everybody doesn't end up raped and murdered!"
or
>"Wow the main character more evil than the infected in a world gone to hell, I sure hope everybody doesn't end up raped and murdered!"
and they always end up raped and murdered or murdered and raped.
I HATE
LONGSTRIPS
TOTAL KOREAN DEATH
>try to read longstrips on my pc
>get hand cramps for multiple days
>try to read longstrips on mobile
>thumb gets fricked up from scrolling as my phone screen reaches critical temp
>Try to read longstrip on PC
>crssh crssh crssh crssh crssh crssh crssh crssh
>Go insane
dear diary today Ganker was a little less shit
*ahem*
FRICK COMIC BOOKS
Imagine the overhead
>Imagine the rent cost
>imagine the utilities
>Imagine payroll
>Imagine the inventory cost
>your clientele is niche and seasonal based on trends
>TGCs seem to be a more reliable and most of the time able to hold the weight of the entire store
Basically you lose 80cents to every dollar the store brings... not surprising most comic book stores are family owned business
Nobody wants to read israeli propaganda
The best mangas are done by the hentai artists that gone semi-legit (still draw hentai on the side)
For me? Ane Naru Mono with the SFW version and H-version
death note is the best manga of all time btw
No it's Kokou no Hito
>page 10
what was that you just frickin said?
Reminder that Slam Dunk is awarded as the most relevant comic of all time and made basketball a mainstream sports in Japan
>paying for manga
do people really do this?
Zoomers buy manga like crazy yeah, they lack computer literacy and don't know how to pirate things. Most millennials that read manga grew up reading fan translations and fan subbed anime so its just natural to not pay for manga.
I can at least understand not pirating games or anime cause maybe you're scared of viruses or don't know how to use torrents.
But manga you literally just google "read [manga name]".
I would pay for the most impressive looking volumes of OPM and Berserk but it's kinda niche and expensive over here.
I mean if I was a real fan I probably would.
Fan translations are okay for casual reading but they can get pretty awful.
Around 10 years ago they began ESGing the whole universes, they made alot of people black, women, gay etc...
It was a absolute disaster, it was absolutely gay and uncool, there is no reason anymore to even look at this shit, its infested by talmudic woke propaganda
Does anyone here read Capeshit? Random question.
Punisher's whole thing is killing people right? Why doesn't he kill the supervillains that keep coming back? Same with DC stuff. Superman doesn't just look after Metropolis, he looks after the whole world doesn't he? Why doesn't he ever stop Joker from killing a bunch of people?