Probably because of the absolutely moronic pricing. The remasters also had Denuvo and there's a decent chunk of PC players who refuse to touch games with Denuvo out of principle.
It almost feels like Atlus wants to kill off the series so they can focus solely on Persona and SMT.
>Why did etrian odyssey flop?
It still outsold Slop Fighter 6 in Japan.
Fighting games are garbage. >[NSW] Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection <RPG> (Atlus) {2023.06.01} (¥8.164) - 38.656 / NEW >[PS5] Street Fighter 6 <FTG> (Capcom) {2023.06.02} (¥7.990) - 21.192 / NEW
dont lash out at me because you dont know how denuvo works and expected fricking atlus to do the right thing, moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i'm lashing out at you because you lack reading comprehension and decide to interject with non-sequiturs unrelated to the conversation. like, at first i thought you were making a joke with your 'day 1' post, but now i realize you're just moronic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I can tell I touched a nerve. Take a break, touch grass and load up qbit after calming down if you really want to play the game that badly
5 months ago
Anonymous
>proper capitalization-posting
mfer leaned forward in his chair to type this post. i accept your concession.
5 months ago
Anonymous
what?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>cope
Being reminded of the fact that you bet $80 on atlus and lost still stings, eh?
5 months ago
Anonymous
wasn't 80 dollars, but you'd know that if you were actually following the conversation. ultimately proving me right, that you can't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't get why you think he's not following the conversation, we're talking about Etrian's denuvo, and he responded by also talking about Etrian's denuvo, that's pretty spot on for following a conversation
5 months ago
Anonymous
day 1 sale was $80.You're just digging yourself deeper at this point
5 months ago
Anonymous
where did i say i got it on day 1?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I was the one who said day 1
5 months ago
Anonymous
so you're just making up your own headcanon then, okay.
5 months ago
Anonymous
listen b***h, I don't care if you spent $80 or $2, if you're going to wait for denuvo to run out then you should have refunded as soon as you bought it. Getting hung up over him saying $80 instead of €60 or whatever denomination of gay ass currency you use is fricking moronic
Etriams
5 months ago
Anonymous
hey hey, i'm keeping the thread bumped here.
back on topic, doesn't it actually cost money to maintain denuvo on games? atlas can't be that moronic, that they'd continually burn money on some upscaled ports, right? why the FRICK does nocturne still have it? jesus christ
see [...]
Im neither of those guys btw, I just wanted to point out that your silly samegayging attempts arent working
tbh i just think it's us three
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
holy shit there's a fee for everything
5 months ago
Anonymous
Wait, no, this is better - they've probably lost more money maintaining denuvo on their games, than they've made on them, if I'm reading this right?
5 months ago
Anonymous
So if I've got this right - if you bought the collection in china for a discount for ~$25 that'd be $0.45 a month
Which means that just by owning the games you'd start losing sega money after 4.6 years
5 months ago
Anonymous
Million dollar companies will pay for stupid shit like this then complain about paying $100/month because uhh they can get a Shopify site they have no control or expertise running and no immediate love support when anything goes wrong and they'll shut your shit off whenever they want to do maintenance. Business people are fricking morons they only think about selling more shit while hemorrhaging cash in the dumbest ways and skimping out on the literal backbone of their profit
5 months ago
Anonymous
SEGA has to have some kind of a special deal. They've removed Denuvo from only like 3 games despite using it in almost every release since 2017. Even Like a Dragon 7, which released DRM free on GOG, still uses Denuvo on Steam.
By my count, they have around 36 games on Steam that use Denuvo, not even counting the few games on EGS. That's over €72,000 PER MONTH, not even including the extra fees like the number of games which have sold over 500,000 activations.
Not even SEGA can be so completely and utterly braindead that they'd waste €72,000+ every month indefinitely just for shits and giggles.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Even Like a Dragon 7, which released DRM free on GOG, still uses Denuvo on Steam.
lmao what
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's the funniest shit I've ever seen. What the frick do they think denuvo does?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Even better than that, when the intel 13th gen processors came out, several games with denuvo stopped working because they detected the new cpu architecture as being some kind of a modded system and refused to boot. Almost every publisher pushed out updates for the affected games to simply remove denuvo so they wouldn't have to deal with it, since those games were all like 3+ years old anyway. Except Sega. They PAID DENUVO AGAIN to update their old games to the newest version, and didn't put anything else in those updates. Team Sonic Racing is still several updates behind the PS4 version, and they didn't even bother using the opportunity to merge those changes. They literally updated Denuvo and nothing else.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly feel like they are just being fricking tricked. I have no other explanation for that kind of moronation. There must just be something that failed to get across the language barrier that denuvo are capitalizing on when it comes to sega, and nobody has told them yet.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I feel as though it's absolutely technologically inept Japanese getting filched by drm - you're seeing it with capcom, you're seeing it with sega
5 months ago
Anonymous
see
lmao yeah, they're kind of c**ts for putting it in after that frick up. doesn't denuvo have like, a monthly / yearly cost? is it per game?
Im neither of those guys btw, I just wanted to point out that your silly samegayging attempts arent working
What the frick were they expecting with that price. Should've at least been the entire collection for that price. They can't fleece people on pc like they can consoles.
Because it is a niche title within an already niche genre, and everybody that likes EO probably already owns the originals and can't be assed to shell out the moronic amounts they were asking for.
This can't be sustainable, like what the frick? This fee can't be PER GAME, right? It has to be per company, or something?' Persona 4 Golden has had Denuvo since 2020; I can't imagine a niche title like this is making enough money to justify these expenditures of denuvo upkeep. >Nocturne >Sonic Frontier >Soul Hackers 2 >P3P
This is actually unhinged behavior.
Million dollar companies will pay for stupid shit like this then complain about paying $100/month because uhh they can get a Shopify site they have no control or expertise running and no immediate love support when anything goes wrong and they'll shut your shit off whenever they want to do maintenance. Business people are fricking morons they only think about selling more shit while hemorrhaging cash in the dumbest ways and skimping out on the literal backbone of their profit
But yeah, holy frick, it's like their whole modern library is contaminated with this shit.
The people who make the decision about putting in denuvo genuinely just can't be argued with. They are so fricking seething about the idea that somebody might play their product for free that they are more than willing to shell out far more than even their losses (that all evidence points towards not really existing in the first place because people who pirate shit generally aren't gonna pay for the thing in the first place) than to accept that a handful of people are gonna get it for free.
Denuvo has a pretty good scam running, I'll give them that.
>release a couple of lazy uprezzed DS ports for full fricking DS price 15 years after they originally released >also no physical version no sales frick you >also also these games already fricking had actual remakes with full 3d models, more content, and a story mode for the normies that weren't ported instead cause ???
Like what the frick were they expecting? Missing out on the entire switch lifespan just to drop this insult half a decade later is peak Atlus moronation.
>Expensive for a remaster, be either buying each individual game or the collection >No physical version for the western market
I don't even own a switch and would have bought it, but they decided not to. >Steam version has denuvo >Ugly font
They forgot to add denuvo when they released the game, so I pirated them anyway. I still have EO3 in my wishlist, just waiting until they drop denuvo.
Probably because of the absolutely moronic pricing. The remasters also had Denuvo and there's a decent chunk of PC players who refuse to touch games with Denuvo out of principle.
It almost feels like Atlus wants to kill off the series so they can focus solely on Persona and SMT.
the price they were asking for a port of old ds games
overpriced rereleases of the first 3 games which are the worst 3
because they wanted top dollar for jpeg dungeon crawlers that werent even full price when they came out
>Why did etrian odyssey flop?
It still outsold Slop Fighter 6 in Japan.
Fighting games are garbage.
>[NSW] Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection <RPG> (Atlus) {2023.06.01} (¥8.164) - 38.656 / NEW
>[PS5] Street Fighter 6 <FTG> (Capcom) {2023.06.02} (¥7.990) - 21.192 / NEW
It's funny how Japan does not give a single frick about fighting games.
Literally an Americattle genre.
They care about smash and guilty gears
boy are the japanese absolutely crazy in +R
They do, they just go to arcades, they don't buy copies
chinks and asiatics separately have more fighting games players than the whole american continent
Street Fighter VI sold 500,000 units in Japan.
>Why did etrian odyssey flop?
The font. Would have bought the PC port it if it had the correct font.
Bought the remasters on sale, but not installing them until denuvo is removed tbh
so day 1?
lmao yeah, they're kind of c**ts for putting it in after that frick up. doesn't denuvo have like, a monthly / yearly cost? is it per game?
They put it in because they had aready paid for it. Should've refunded when you had the chance
you can't follow a conversation for shit, damn.
dont lash out at me because you dont know how denuvo works and expected fricking atlus to do the right thing, moron.
i'm lashing out at you because you lack reading comprehension and decide to interject with non-sequiturs unrelated to the conversation. like, at first i thought you were making a joke with your 'day 1' post, but now i realize you're just moronic.
I can tell I touched a nerve. Take a break, touch grass and load up qbit after calming down if you really want to play the game that badly
>proper capitalization-posting
mfer leaned forward in his chair to type this post. i accept your concession.
what?
>cope
Being reminded of the fact that you bet $80 on atlus and lost still stings, eh?
wasn't 80 dollars, but you'd know that if you were actually following the conversation. ultimately proving me right, that you can't.
I don't get why you think he's not following the conversation, we're talking about Etrian's denuvo, and he responded by also talking about Etrian's denuvo, that's pretty spot on for following a conversation
day 1 sale was $80.You're just digging yourself deeper at this point
where did i say i got it on day 1?
I was the one who said day 1
so you're just making up your own headcanon then, okay.
listen b***h, I don't care if you spent $80 or $2, if you're going to wait for denuvo to run out then you should have refunded as soon as you bought it. Getting hung up over him saying $80 instead of €60 or whatever denomination of gay ass currency you use is fricking moronic
Etriams
hey hey, i'm keeping the thread bumped here.
back on topic, doesn't it actually cost money to maintain denuvo on games? atlas can't be that moronic, that they'd continually burn money on some upscaled ports, right? why the FRICK does nocturne still have it? jesus christ
tbh i just think it's us three
holy shit there's a fee for everything
Wait, no, this is better - they've probably lost more money maintaining denuvo on their games, than they've made on them, if I'm reading this right?
So if I've got this right - if you bought the collection in china for a discount for ~$25 that'd be $0.45 a month
Which means that just by owning the games you'd start losing sega money after 4.6 years
Million dollar companies will pay for stupid shit like this then complain about paying $100/month because uhh they can get a Shopify site they have no control or expertise running and no immediate love support when anything goes wrong and they'll shut your shit off whenever they want to do maintenance. Business people are fricking morons they only think about selling more shit while hemorrhaging cash in the dumbest ways and skimping out on the literal backbone of their profit
SEGA has to have some kind of a special deal. They've removed Denuvo from only like 3 games despite using it in almost every release since 2017. Even Like a Dragon 7, which released DRM free on GOG, still uses Denuvo on Steam.
By my count, they have around 36 games on Steam that use Denuvo, not even counting the few games on EGS. That's over €72,000 PER MONTH, not even including the extra fees like the number of games which have sold over 500,000 activations.
Not even SEGA can be so completely and utterly braindead that they'd waste €72,000+ every month indefinitely just for shits and giggles.
>Even Like a Dragon 7, which released DRM free on GOG, still uses Denuvo on Steam.
lmao what
That's the funniest shit I've ever seen. What the frick do they think denuvo does?
Even better than that, when the intel 13th gen processors came out, several games with denuvo stopped working because they detected the new cpu architecture as being some kind of a modded system and refused to boot. Almost every publisher pushed out updates for the affected games to simply remove denuvo so they wouldn't have to deal with it, since those games were all like 3+ years old anyway. Except Sega. They PAID DENUVO AGAIN to update their old games to the newest version, and didn't put anything else in those updates. Team Sonic Racing is still several updates behind the PS4 version, and they didn't even bother using the opportunity to merge those changes. They literally updated Denuvo and nothing else.
I honestly feel like they are just being fricking tricked. I have no other explanation for that kind of moronation. There must just be something that failed to get across the language barrier that denuvo are capitalizing on when it comes to sega, and nobody has told them yet.
I feel as though it's absolutely technologically inept Japanese getting filched by drm - you're seeing it with capcom, you're seeing it with sega
see
Im neither of those guys btw, I just wanted to point out that your silly samegayging attempts arent working
I'm not paying $80 for two games that are worse than the 3DS ones and one DS game that's a straight port.
What the frick were they expecting with that price. Should've at least been the entire collection for that price. They can't fleece people on pc like they can consoles.
Because it is a niche title within an already niche genre, and everybody that likes EO probably already owns the originals and can't be assed to shell out the moronic amounts they were asking for.
This can't be sustainable, like what the frick? This fee can't be PER GAME, right? It has to be per company, or something?' Persona 4 Golden has had Denuvo since 2020; I can't imagine a niche title like this is making enough money to justify these expenditures of denuvo upkeep.
>Nocturne
>Sonic Frontier
>Soul Hackers 2
>P3P
This is actually unhinged behavior.
Meant for
But yeah, holy frick, it's like their whole modern library is contaminated with this shit.
The people who make the decision about putting in denuvo genuinely just can't be argued with. They are so fricking seething about the idea that somebody might play their product for free that they are more than willing to shell out far more than even their losses (that all evidence points towards not really existing in the first place because people who pirate shit generally aren't gonna pay for the thing in the first place) than to accept that a handful of people are gonna get it for free.
Denuvo has a pretty good scam running, I'll give them that.
Too expensive for an easily emulated game that any fan of the series already owns or have played anyways.
Etrian Odyssey has always been relatively niche. The pricing also doesn't help.
>release a couple of lazy uprezzed DS ports for full fricking DS price 15 years after they originally released
>also no physical version no sales frick you
>also also these games already fricking had actual remakes with full 3d models, more content, and a story mode for the normies that weren't ported instead cause ???
Like what the frick were they expecting? Missing out on the entire switch lifespan just to drop this insult half a decade later is peak Atlus moronation.
because we've already played them and we're not morons like the persona fans ready to slurp up p3r?
Price was insane and not improved untold version of games only some old ports.
>Expensive for a remaster, be either buying each individual game or the collection
>No physical version for the western market
I don't even own a switch and would have bought it, but they decided not to.
>Steam version has denuvo
>Ugly font
They forgot to add denuvo when they released the game, so I pirated them anyway. I still have EO3 in my wishlist, just waiting until they drop denuvo.
>straight ports with minimal improvements for full retail price
The frick did they expect?
>Atlus
>screwing over their smaller projects
Yeah, I'm not surprised.