Well it takes directly from Miyazaki styled films, specifically Mononoke. The champions from BOTW also feel very much like characters from younger oriented Shonen.
>They're all anime, even the first game.
It's anime in the same way fire emblem was anime. There's a very clear distinction. It's like saying cowboy bebop and lucky star are the same.
You absolute moron. You have anime brain rot and cant see how the characters in OOT are literally just normal people. They do not act like fricking cringey repulsive anime moe shit or whatever gay terms you anime people have. The way that old granny woman does her poses and whatnot. Its pure cancer. I hate it I fricking hate it. Just be normal and serious like OOT for frick sake.
>Saria the e-girl who nonetheless gets telegraphed as a love interest (Now less creepy because "Well, she looks like a kid but she's acutally 1000 years old!"), Ruto the obsessive wiener-gobbling and marriage-obsessed stalker, Nabooru the old bawd who flirts with a random shota, princess fricking Zelda in twinky pretty boy reverse-drag.
kek, get a grip, OoT was very anime.
1, 2, LTTP, OOT and MM are all medieval fantasy. WW, TP, SS, BOTW and TOTK are all anime. If you can't tell the difference you are probably the type of person that actually like cringey anime shit anyways. There's a very clear difference between old Zelda games and the later ones in tone and the way the characters behave.
Not entirely correct. Anime hadn't yet gotten popular in the West (at least, not in the way we think of it today), so a lot of the gamers kind of treated Zelda like a Japanese take on Western Fantasy/ Arthurian legend. Back then, it was kind of refreshing, since nobody really did it on the scale that Nintendo did.
I can see where someone might make that distinction, but I feel if you were playing Nintendo in the 90s, you were also probably watching Pokemon, which was a huge gateway into other anime.
Pokemon back then was kind on in a weird spot. It aired right alongside stuff like Batman The Animated Series and Animaniacs and most kids didn't think too hard about that. It was more so on the adults and and Western industry people that hated to see Pokemon, a Japanese animated show be more popular than local animation work
Are you really discrediting the influence Toonami had on making anime mainstream in the U.S? If a kid was watching Cartoon Network at all, there was a near 100% chance they'd have seen some anime at some point in time. Who knows, maybe I was just a really weird kid, but I was aware Nintendo was a Japanese company and that anime was the same, they've always been connected in my mind.
True, but weebshit didn't start until about mid 2000s, when anime started really hitting its stride in the West. Looking back, I kind of resent how popular anime has gotten, because it's changed the way we tell stories in games... and not always for the better.
I agree with that. I think it also stems from the fact that secondary weebs seem to view anime as a genre and not as a medium, i.e "all anime and anime inspired things must be cool and fun and similar!" as if all "live action" tv shows are similar. It's like comparing House to fricking Prince of Bel-Air.
Times have certainly changed.
Back in my day, the people who played Ocarina and Majora's also played Metal Gear Solid, FF7, StarCraft, and Halo. It was considered to be just another great game(s) in a era of great games. Now, being a "Zelda fan" means that you play Xenogears, Animal Crossing, and Fire Emblem (but not the old ones).
tldr: shits gotten gay man
This is most brainrotted boomerpost I have ever read on here. Your friendgroup of maybe 20 people max does not account for the whole of late 90s/early 00s gaming. Many people that I knew growing up very much so got themselves as far away from Nintendo in 6th gen, since it was all "baby games" and exclusively stuck to Halo, GTA, etc;
I wouldn’t call it weeb shit. Skyward Sword is when they transitioned from a traditional medieval theme to a stylized one. Unfortunately they also moved away from darker tones. Hyrule Castle and the great plateau are the last great bastions of the medieval era.
>Why
Aonuma. Wind waker was literally styled to look like anime. Its also when the magi-tech in the series started noticeably increasing beyond a few strange enemy types.
OP here. dunno who acgay is but i assume its related to assassins creed. I just really love OOT and MM. They are my favourite video games. I hate botw and totk as everyone in the game acts like such a fricking cringey anime character compared to how normal people behaved in OOT.
I only care about 7. The rest of the franchise might as well not exist. Just like how MGS1 is the only good MGS as it is just like an 80s/90s action movie but MGS2 onwards is all cringey anime shit.
>possesed ghost arm >psycho-mantis >again, all of Otacon
I'm not denying it was more action focused and was the most Western style game (until MGSV), but to say it isn't weeb is a bit of a stretch. Hell, a lot of 80s action flicks got inspiration from kung-fu and samurai movies. It's two sides of the same coin.
>possesed ghost arm >psycho-mantis >again, all of Otacon
I'm not denying it was more action focused and was the most Western style game (until MGSV), but to say it isn't weeb is a bit of a stretch. Hell, a lot of 80s action flicks got inspiration from kung-fu and samurai movies. It's two sides of the same coin.
> SNAKE WATCH OUT THEY'RE IN THERE WITH YOU!
7 months ago
Anonymous
mgs2,3,4,portableops, peace walker and v are all MORE anime than MGS1. Thats the issue. Making games too anime.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What does "anime," even mean exactly to you?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Pedophiles, trannies, disingenuous brown parasites destroying anything good, pretty much
7 months ago
Anonymous
ironic since the only people drawing ugly traps are rightoids. traps are cute, CUUUTE
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not them but >over-exaggerated movements and reactions, especially from female characters >boring/generic love interest for the main character whose personality revolves around the MC on some way >emphasis on youth with all the villains being older (over 25) >over-designed characters wearing a bunch of random shit, especially belts >hair colors that cover the entire spectrum of a rainbow >thin characters wielding giant weapons like they weigh nothing >”the 10,000 year old demon king has reawakened, we need to use our friendship and teamwork to put him down” >cutesy/moeblob mascot character used to promote the game
7 months ago
Anonymous
So tropes or people being over the top? That's not exclusive to anime. How come no ones takes issues with tropes from other mediums or people being over the top in them?
7 months ago
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Anime tropes are more obnoxious and prominent
7 months ago
Anonymous
Action movie tropes don't make my ears bleed.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>>over-exaggerated movements and reactions, especially from female characters
Everything is gonna look over-exaggerated if you're comparing it to fricking Ocarina of Time and its characters that move like blocks of cinder, even the 3DS port is more animated.
love interest for the main character whose personality revolves around the MC on some way
Oh yeah, all the complexity in Saria, Princess Ruto and Nabooru that totally didn't live and die by whatever Link did.
on youth with all the villains being older (over 25)
OoT Link is a literal child, Ganondorf is a grown adult. >>over-designed characters wearing a bunch of random shit, especially belts
BotW Link isn't any more overdesigned than OoT Link, he wears what is necessary for an adventurer, you're talking about ridiculous shit like Cloud with a dozen belts that serve no purpose or Sora and his moronic Disney pants. >>hair colors that cover the entire spectrum of a rainbow
Outside of magical characters like the Great Fairies Zelda games have never had outrageous hair colors, in fact, the Great Fairies in BotW tend to have much more muted shades in their hair than the ones in OoT/MM, and the only Link to have a hair color that didn't range from brown to blond was A Link to the Past Link in the early 90s. >>thin characters wielding giant weapons like they weigh nothing
BotW specifically has a system that accounts for weapon weight. >>”the 10,000 year old demon king has reawakened, we need to use our friendship and teamwork to put him down”
Link doesn't go into the final battle with any friends, unless you want to count the sages which are in both OoT and TotK, and only serve the purpose of getting Link to the final battle in some way.
mascot character used to promote the game
The closest Zelda ever got to this is probably Ezlo and OoT had Navi the annoying dipshit, BotW is by far the furthest from this since the jump to 3D, there is no companion whatsoever.
Im glad they moved on from medieval crap that is so rampant these days. Is there no other era people can pull from human history these days? Every game now is either le epic dark fantasy or dystopian modern day/future.
There's also Steampunk, a-la Bloodbourne, but anything post-industriailzation is kind of boring in that you don't get the more "spiritual stuff" of the medieval periods.
Weebshit sells, integrity be damned. It's what "saved" fire emblem.
Nintendo is just soullessly profit chasing now, they couldn't care less how they roll around in money, just so long as they're rolling around in money.
The Wii killed Nintendo for me. Showed them they could just put profits above all else and be rewarded 10 times as much than when they actually try. I'm expecting the switch 2 to have some sort of stupid gimmick again, because thats what the market research is screaming in their ear.
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NO WORRIES FOR A SMALL PRICE I CAN SEND YOU TO THE TIMELINE WHERE ZELDA IS GOOD AGAIN
I JUST NEED YOU TO FIND MY MASK
How many times does it need to be said. Go play OOT and look at the way the characters behave and speak and then go compare to to the way the characters in botw behave and speak. BOTW characters act in a cringey anime way that characters in OOT do not apart from Princess Ruto. But fricking everyone in botw is cringey like Ruto was in OOT. She was the exception in OOT and she was awful. Everyone in botw is like that and its just pure cringe inducing. I fricking hate it.
Why is this so hard for anime watchers to understand. botw and totk are more like anime persona and fire emblem people in the way the characters behave compared to how characters in OOT behaved which was just like normal people. Thats what is meant by saying botw is anime and oot isnt.
botw/totk has no anime related stuff at all
Anime itself changed (for the worse) and Zelda changed alongside it
lol
TOTK does
They're all anime, even the first game.
Well it takes directly from Miyazaki styled films, specifically Mononoke. The champions from BOTW also feel very much like characters from younger oriented Shonen.
>They're all anime, even the first game.
It's anime in the same way fire emblem was anime. There's a very clear distinction. It's like saying cowboy bebop and lucky star are the same.
Every single line of dialogue is an anime trope. AI could have made more compelling characters
Nobody show him the anime designs of the first Zelda bros...
What’s next?
weeb noir
Sci-fi fantasy
more nuts & bolts DLC (full price)
Normalgay thread
its been hanging around anime weeb shit since twilight princess, or even links awakening if you wanna stretch that far
Both are weeb fantasy you fricking homosexual. The difference between then and now is you were a kid and too stupid to tell the difference.
There are obvious stylistic differences and you're the one that's too stupid to notice.
Its not even the visuals styles. Its the way the characters behave and speak.
Switch can't handle real graphics
hur dur why dey do dis
ha a monkey
be very thankful you weren't around to see the real western medieval fantasy zeldas
OP objectively and empirically BTFO'd.
You absolute moron. You have anime brain rot and cant see how the characters in OOT are literally just normal people. They do not act like fricking cringey repulsive anime moe shit or whatever gay terms you anime people have. The way that old granny woman does her poses and whatnot. Its pure cancer. I hate it I fricking hate it. Just be normal and serious like OOT for frick sake.
>Saria the e-girl who nonetheless gets telegraphed as a love interest (Now less creepy because "Well, she looks like a kid but she's acutally 1000 years old!"), Ruto the obsessive wiener-gobbling and marriage-obsessed stalker, Nabooru the old bawd who flirts with a random shota, princess fricking Zelda in twinky pretty boy reverse-drag.
kek, get a grip, OoT was very anime.
OoT/MM = CHADen
BotW/Tiktok = Moeshit
1, 2, LTTP, OOT and MM are all medieval fantasy. WW, TP, SS, BOTW and TOTK are all anime. If you can't tell the difference you are probably the type of person that actually like cringey anime shit anyways. There's a very clear difference between old Zelda games and the later ones in tone and the way the characters behave.
TP is more of a mix between the two
Yes they got more and more anime as they went on hence why botw and totk are the most anime.
SS feels more anime than the latter two
Because anime weeb shit is popular in Japan.
Weebs have such low taste that they will buy any old shit. You only need to look at how botw and totk are the best selling games in the franchise.
it was always anime shit, soulful anime shit closer to real art but still anime shit.
OoT and MM were "anime weeb crap" for their time. You of course, would have no way of remembering this, since you were born in 2002.
Not entirely correct. Anime hadn't yet gotten popular in the West (at least, not in the way we think of it today), so a lot of the gamers kind of treated Zelda like a Japanese take on Western Fantasy/ Arthurian legend. Back then, it was kind of refreshing, since nobody really did it on the scale that Nintendo did.
I can see where someone might make that distinction, but I feel if you were playing Nintendo in the 90s, you were also probably watching Pokemon, which was a huge gateway into other anime.
Pokemon back then was kind on in a weird spot. It aired right alongside stuff like Batman The Animated Series and Animaniacs and most kids didn't think too hard about that. It was more so on the adults and and Western industry people that hated to see Pokemon, a Japanese animated show be more popular than local animation work
Are you really discrediting the influence Toonami had on making anime mainstream in the U.S? If a kid was watching Cartoon Network at all, there was a near 100% chance they'd have seen some anime at some point in time. Who knows, maybe I was just a really weird kid, but I was aware Nintendo was a Japanese company and that anime was the same, they've always been connected in my mind.
True, but weebshit didn't start until about mid 2000s, when anime started really hitting its stride in the West. Looking back, I kind of resent how popular anime has gotten, because it's changed the way we tell stories in games... and not always for the better.
I agree with that. I think it also stems from the fact that secondary weebs seem to view anime as a genre and not as a medium, i.e "all anime and anime inspired things must be cool and fun and similar!" as if all "live action" tv shows are similar. It's like comparing House to fricking Prince of Bel-Air.
Anime became as popular as it ever would in the West during the late 90s.
You'd be surprised, it seems like there are a lot more tourists now that anime has hit the mainstream.
Nope. I'm 33 and my first Zelda game was LTTP.
Times have certainly changed.
Back in my day, the people who played Ocarina and Majora's also played Metal Gear Solid, FF7, StarCraft, and Halo. It was considered to be just another great game(s) in a era of great games. Now, being a "Zelda fan" means that you play Xenogears, Animal Crossing, and Fire Emblem (but not the old ones).
tldr: shits gotten gay man
This is most brainrotted boomerpost I have ever read on here. Your friendgroup of maybe 20 people max does not account for the whole of late 90s/early 00s gaming. Many people that I knew growing up very much so got themselves as far away from Nintendo in 6th gen, since it was all "baby games" and exclusively stuck to Halo, GTA, etc;
What the frick are you talking about zoomie
Yeah I hate shit like Fire Emblem and Xenogears. Just complete cringey anime rubbish. But I loved OOT and MM.
What's the difference? I see two anime boys with big anime eyes, anime art style and proportions, with high-pitched anime voices, made by Japan.
Xenogears is the old one you ignorant gaylord.
I wouldn’t call it weeb shit. Skyward Sword is when they transitioned from a traditional medieval theme to a stylized one. Unfortunately they also moved away from darker tones. Hyrule Castle and the great plateau are the last great bastions of the medieval era.
what the frick do you call a link between worlds then
both?
I guess? The artstyle of that game isn't exactly anime, but it's not like oot or mm either. It's like a western anime cartoon thing.
🙁
Sorry bro, you're not on a home console, you're not a real zelda game, sucks to suck.
I deleted it because you put a sad face
>Why
Aonuma. Wind waker was literally styled to look like anime. Its also when the magi-tech in the series started noticeably increasing beyond a few strange enemy types.
Why are Nintendo the only ones who say stupid shit like this
Its just acgay who made it his life’s mission to talk about botw and totk every day but he knows you can only get replies with bait threads
OP here. dunno who acgay is but i assume its related to assassins creed. I just really love OOT and MM. They are my favourite video games. I hate botw and totk as everyone in the game acts like such a fricking cringey anime character compared to how normal people behaved in OOT.
ACgay is an anon who really likes Armored Core and argues a lot with another anon, the Ericposter.
I also dont consider FF7 to be weeb but I do consider everything from 8 onwards to be weeb.
Black person final fantasy was, has, and will always be weeb
I only care about 7. The rest of the franchise might as well not exist. Just like how MGS1 is the only good MGS as it is just like an 80s/90s action movie but MGS2 onwards is all cringey anime shit.
>this is just like one of my Japanese anime
is literally a line in MGS1, god you have no fricking clue what you're actually talking about, do you?
MGS2 onwards is full on moron tier anime cringe shit. MGS1 only has small bits of anime. Its mostly 80s action movie.
>possesed ghost arm
>psycho-mantis
>again, all of Otacon
I'm not denying it was more action focused and was the most Western style game (until MGSV), but to say it isn't weeb is a bit of a stretch. Hell, a lot of 80s action flicks got inspiration from kung-fu and samurai movies. It's two sides of the same coin.
> SNAKE WATCH OUT THEY'RE IN THERE WITH YOU!
mgs2,3,4,portableops, peace walker and v are all MORE anime than MGS1. Thats the issue. Making games too anime.
What does "anime," even mean exactly to you?
Pedophiles, trannies, disingenuous brown parasites destroying anything good, pretty much
ironic since the only people drawing ugly traps are rightoids. traps are cute, CUUUTE
Not them but
>over-exaggerated movements and reactions, especially from female characters
>boring/generic love interest for the main character whose personality revolves around the MC on some way
>emphasis on youth with all the villains being older (over 25)
>over-designed characters wearing a bunch of random shit, especially belts
>hair colors that cover the entire spectrum of a rainbow
>thin characters wielding giant weapons like they weigh nothing
>”the 10,000 year old demon king has reawakened, we need to use our friendship and teamwork to put him down”
>cutesy/moeblob mascot character used to promote the game
So tropes or people being over the top? That's not exclusive to anime. How come no ones takes issues with tropes from other mediums or people being over the top in them?
Anime tropes are more obnoxious and prominent
Action movie tropes don't make my ears bleed.
>>over-exaggerated movements and reactions, especially from female characters
Everything is gonna look over-exaggerated if you're comparing it to fricking Ocarina of Time and its characters that move like blocks of cinder, even the 3DS port is more animated.
love interest for the main character whose personality revolves around the MC on some way
Oh yeah, all the complexity in Saria, Princess Ruto and Nabooru that totally didn't live and die by whatever Link did.
on youth with all the villains being older (over 25)
OoT Link is a literal child, Ganondorf is a grown adult.
>>over-designed characters wearing a bunch of random shit, especially belts
BotW Link isn't any more overdesigned than OoT Link, he wears what is necessary for an adventurer, you're talking about ridiculous shit like Cloud with a dozen belts that serve no purpose or Sora and his moronic Disney pants.
>>hair colors that cover the entire spectrum of a rainbow
Outside of magical characters like the Great Fairies Zelda games have never had outrageous hair colors, in fact, the Great Fairies in BotW tend to have much more muted shades in their hair than the ones in OoT/MM, and the only Link to have a hair color that didn't range from brown to blond was A Link to the Past Link in the early 90s.
>>thin characters wielding giant weapons like they weigh nothing
BotW specifically has a system that accounts for weapon weight.
>>”the 10,000 year old demon king has reawakened, we need to use our friendship and teamwork to put him down”
Link doesn't go into the final battle with any friends, unless you want to count the sages which are in both OoT and TotK, and only serve the purpose of getting Link to the final battle in some way.
mascot character used to promote the game
The closest Zelda ever got to this is probably Ezlo and OoT had Navi the annoying dipshit, BotW is by far the furthest from this since the jump to 3D, there is no companion whatsoever.
It was always weebshit, it's just that weebshit has gone from regurgitated baby food to the last stage of the human centipede in the last 20 years.
Im glad they moved on from medieval crap that is so rampant these days. Is there no other era people can pull from human history these days? Every game now is either le epic dark fantasy or dystopian modern day/future.
There's also Steampunk, a-la Bloodbourne, but anything post-industriailzation is kind of boring in that you don't get the more "spiritual stuff" of the medieval periods.
It's what sells, baby!!!! All about DA MONEY, BIG BUCKS!
Link is 100% anime in OoT and MM.
I don't understand why people get so angry and defensive over this. botw is extremely anime compared to oot.
To appeal the Americans
Weebshit sells, integrity be damned. It's what "saved" fire emblem.
Nintendo is just soullessly profit chasing now, they couldn't care less how they roll around in money, just so long as they're rolling around in money.
The Wii killed Nintendo for me. Showed them they could just put profits above all else and be rewarded 10 times as much than when they actually try. I'm expecting the switch 2 to have some sort of stupid gimmick again, because thats what the market research is screaming in their ear.
Zelda has always been anime
I SEE YOU MET WITH AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT ANON
NO WORRIES FOR A SMALL PRICE I CAN SEND YOU TO THE TIMELINE WHERE ZELDA IS GOOD AGAIN
I JUST NEED YOU TO FIND MY MASK
>anime weeb shit
>as if Zelda hasn't been anime since day one
KYS zoomer
That Link has a nose like Shaggy, you visual idiot.
Yeah, anime characters used to have noses.
Nice argument, unfortunately:
How many times does it need to be said. Go play OOT and look at the way the characters behave and speak and then go compare to to the way the characters in botw behave and speak. BOTW characters act in a cringey anime way that characters in OOT do not apart from Princess Ruto. But fricking everyone in botw is cringey like Ruto was in OOT. She was the exception in OOT and she was awful. Everyone in botw is like that and its just pure cringe inducing. I fricking hate it.
nu-zelda is troonycore
old-zelda is chadcore
know the difference
>weeb
Anime website, troony leftoid pedo.
performan?
How can anyone possibly think "anime" is 1 thing? It doesn't make any sense.
"Anime" is definitely an aesthetic. It's not as universal as "animation"; someone says "anime", and you generally know what someone is looking at.
Why is this so hard for anime watchers to understand. botw and totk are more like anime persona and fire emblem people in the way the characters behave compared to how characters in OOT behaved which was just like normal people. Thats what is meant by saying botw is anime and oot isnt.
Good.
Westoids deserve nothing.
Get fricked b***h.