why did they make this guy harder than godrick?

why did they make this guy harder than godrick?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lorelet

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he's skill check, Godrick is applying what you just learned

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gameplay wise

      He's designed to get players who followed the guidance of grace as per Varre's instructions to frick off and explore the open world. They do it twice: once with the tree sentinel, once with Margit.

      Lore Wise
      Godrick is a canonical shitter and so he is blocking any tarnished from approaching and claiming his rune which will risk his position in keeping the lands between stagnant.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's designed to get players who followed the guidance of grace as per Varre's instructions to frick off and explore the open world. They do it twice: once with the tree sentinel, once with Margit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tree Sentinel is way easier imo then Margit. I dont think I have died a single time to Sentinel.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because fromsoft was lazy since it's just a re-used boss you'll fight again later

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    noob filter

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't fricking remember any of these characters by name

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry about your room temp iq, anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's like 6 bosses all called Godfrey and they all have crowns and sticks and love trees

      Elden Ring isn't known for its memorable bosses, don't worry

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick were they thinking with the Godrick gaol fight?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were thinking that because Godrick is the first shardbearer boss and most players will fight him at level 20-30, it'd be nice to refight him with more health when you have a more developed build.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically just so people who liked fighting godrick get to fight that final phase again as an actual boss

      Loreshitters will handwring back and forth about it, but it's simply a gameplay reason. It's basically them making I guess bossrush/revist Godrick.

      They really, really should've made the evergaols far more interesting than they were. If they were like Uber versions of bosses it'd be way cooler. Like "Memory of Renalla" and you go into the evergaol and the whole area gets transformed with different mobs and stuff. They did similar with the Ordina town thing, all of them should've been like that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember when Gaols were revealed through some previews and I thought it’d be like the inner fights in sekiro

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically just so people who liked fighting godrick get to fight that final phase again as an actual boss

      Loreshitters will handwring back and forth about it, but it's simply a gameplay reason. It's basically them making I guess bossrush/revist Godrick.

      They really, really should've made the evergaols far more interesting than they were. If they were like Uber versions of bosses it'd be way cooler. Like "Memory of Renalla" and you go into the evergaol and the whole area gets transformed with different mobs and stuff. They did similar with the Ordina town thing, all of them should've been like that

      Godfroy in the lore is simple.
      After Marika shattered the Elden Ring there was a tentative alliance of the runebearer factions (Sans Omen Twins who where still in the sewers) that lasted for a short time with them all being stationed within Lyndell.
      Then someone broke the alliance (Likely Godfroy as political representative of the Golden Lineage post Godwyn's death, Radahn who was a Godfrey Fanboy, and possibly Rykard) and those armies marched on Lyndell.
      During this event Godrick who was still a twink like the grafted scions disguised himself as a women, stole treasures from Lyndell and slipped out of the city, while Morgott left the sewers and heroically broke the siege then became the Veiled King.
      During this turning of the tide Ancient Dragon Knight Kristoff kicked Godfroy's ass and got him locked him up in the gaol.
      After the siege Godrick as the Runebearer for the Golden Lineage rallied the remaining troops and fled to Stormveil, the personal castle of the Golden Lineage and started grafting himself from here.
      This also explains why despite being right next to each other Godrick and Radahn's men never seemed to clash and why Malenia had to make Godrick fold before getting to Radahn.

      The reason Godfroy looks like Godrick is a gameplay contrivance, and not being able to comprehend these aspects of the lore is a clear sign of some who ignores all the victory monuments.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick I already fricked up so slight correction. Godrick was already the rep of the Golden Lineage for the First Siege of Lyndell just not grafted yet. That makes Godfroy just another member of the Golden Lienage. My bad for overthinking it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Godefroy fricks up the lore because it implies that Godrick's grafting was a thing even before the shattering where as without his existence it's implied that Godrick took it up after his duel with Malenia. It doesn't make sense that a freaky monster man would make fun of her for being an amputee and it also jives with his personsality that his conclusion after losing would be that his limb count advantage simply wasn't high enough. Plus Roderika's dialogue implies that most people don't know "the spider" is actually Godrick, which seems unlikely if he was always grafted.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grafting being a thing and Godrick doing it himself to not need to come into being at the same time. Grafting could of just been a known and done thing for the Golden Lineage beforehand the a duel is what caused Godrick to take it up.

          Hell if you want to go cracksmoking head cannon about it you can make an argument that the reason Godwyn looks like a fish man is because he grafted fish parts, which also ties into the rumors that the deathblight thorns are caused by grafting as a fricked up series of lore telephone

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actually to add onto this what Godfrey did with Serrosh could be a more refined form of Grafting that inspired it within his lineage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should've made him reappear as a golden shade, like godfrey. That would've been nice. I don't even know the lore reason for godfrey's shade, if there is one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Morgott has golden illusion/projection magic and made a phantom of his dad to guard the Erdtree Sanctuary.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Morgott is the "veiled monarch." goldfrey is the illusory face of the administration, and a bodyguard blocking the path before people could see that morgot's an omen.

          Oh yea, that makes sense

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Morgott is the "veiled monarch." goldfrey is the illusory face of the administration, and a bodyguard blocking the path before people could see that morgot's an omen.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because that's Godefroy, Godricks jobber brother who was captured trying to sneak out of Leyndell

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Godefroy is basically a stronger Godrick for people who like the boss design and want a proper fight with some HP and damage scaling since even NG+ cycled Godrick is a pushover. Rennala also has this problem where she's so early into the game and so weak even in the second phase that the design kinda gets wasted, which is doubly disappointing since she's one of the few real spellcaster bosses in the game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rennela can by a hard boss for some people (int enjoyers) due to her massive int resist but yeah hopefully her sister is the "Rennala but malenia tier" hardmode version.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was hard? I first timed him as a sorcerer.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Cower in fear, of the night!"

    Why is he even saying that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is technically the one in charge of the Night's Cavalry (those horesback bosses who only come out at night) and in earlier versions of the game they would apparently go more out of their way to hunt down the player at nighttime.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cower in fear, of the night!
      And just like that, i traveled by day all the time and never met a Night Cavalry until the Forbidden Lands where you can't tell the time due to the fog.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He waifus Princess Luna/Nightmare Moon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nighttime is a veil of stars and he is the veiled king. Double meaning when you know stars dictate fate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He used to lead the Night Cavalry, the black knights bosses that spawn only at nighttime. Their duty is to hunt heroes and tarnished alike.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canonically, I'd guess that Morgott knows Godrick is an absolute jobber, and doesn't want the first tarnished to walk into the castle getting a free great rune.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He has no poise. Everyone kills Godrick in 10 seconds so they don’t see moronic delayed combos.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so they don’t see moronic delayed combos
      Yeah I don't get why people complain about margit's delayed attacks when godrick is way worse

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's because Margit's delays are variable length feints, where as Godrick is just slow and easy to learn.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    margit is blocking the way to stormveil specifically because Godrick is easy picking for ambitious tarnished. he's trying to stop that.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Godfrey was the original lord of stormveil
    >Margit is guarding the entrance to stormveil
    why was morgott fine with godrick stealing his Dad's castle

    • 2 weeks ago
      ArcaneMaxxer

      It's not worth the time of day to pluck an old memento spoil of his fathers conquest from the hands of a pathetic distant nephew.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it would probably be a good idea to make sure your moronic 2nd cousin doesn't accidentally get his hands on a curse mark of death that's chilling under the castle

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, does he know about it?
          Sure, he knows about the hot mess under his own castle, but he lives there

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He had a soft spot for godrick because he's a little moronic. He probably just didn't want anyone picking on his moronic grandnephew or something
        Too bad he's not moronic enough to earn MY sympathy
        Gimme dat great rune, b***h

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If Godrick didn't want to get his ass beaten like a five dollar hooker then he shouldn't have made his great rune the best in the game, that little moron deserves everything he gets.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not worth the time of day to pluck an old memento spoil of his fathers conquest from the hands of a pathetic distant nephew.

      Like the great rune, the castle belonged to Godwyn, meaning that Godrick was the rightful heir. Besides, the castle itself was worthless to Morgott.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'll get it as you get deeper into the game. Im not shitposting on you it is actually explained.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vagabond greatsword guy or samurai dexgay for dlc?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dex seems to be getting more new weapons so if you want to mess around with those go dex.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whichever you want

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So anons ask how vyke got 2 great runes but when you load the game up he is hunched over the corpses of ensha and jerren.
    If each had 1 rune he claimed them then.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't get is were they 2 different great runes from the 7 we get? Or were one of the big bosses killed before and they reclaimed them when vyke went coo-coo ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't matter to the narrative which they were. All that matters is he is alive hunched over 2 other people that canonically search for runes like the player.

        From I feel like just pulls 'time is convoluted' super easily on this kind of thing
        Like, surely Gideon would've had 2 great runes in-universe to talk as much shit as he does and have been given favor by the 2 Fingers, but in-game he obviously has none. Grandma even says you're his equal when you get one

        None of that in this game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From I feel like just pulls 'time is convoluted' super easily on this kind of thing
      Like, surely Gideon would've had 2 great runes in-universe to talk as much shit as he does and have been given favor by the 2 Fingers, but in-game he obviously has none. Grandma even says you're his equal when you get one

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And what’s worse is that they made him hot as shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bugchaser

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't know the dung eater posted on Ganker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon...
        There are over 200 Tarnished/Morgott fanfictions on A03

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fairly sure the dung eater was based on Ganker posters

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He is what the devs see the solo invader types as. Volcano manor is for faux covenant lads, moghwyn are scrapping spear type seethers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's why it's called shitposting

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Morgott Margit? How does he come back when we kill him?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhhhh
      Margit is like a hologram or some shit idk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep playing it gets explained. You'll run into a 2nd Margot giving you a clue as to what the first Margot was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Time flows differently in Lordran. Oh sorry... It's an illuuuuuuusion!

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There are probably "infinite" great runes, they are concepts like envy, vainglory, power, dignity etc etc as a solidified object.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes sense, also before anyone asks you can't trust the logo as it only has 4 rings in it so even if you double up Morgott and Mogh, either Rykard or Radahn, along side of the rebirth rune gets left out.

      The player is clearly the only one who killed actually important demigods
      All the ones with thrones before the erdtree are done in by us

      Basically this, the other likely killed jobbers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone knows about the draconic ring having more runes so I'll add a spicier part
        >the yellow brick road in atlus has an earlier rendition of the GO ring with the 4 rings being equidistant instead of the 4th moved into the center.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The platforms on Altus have an interesting motif on them too.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The player is clearly the only one who killed actually important demigods
    All the ones with thrones before the erdtree are done in by us

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tarnished is the 2nd strongest character in the game. 1st is Ranni because you can't physically hurt her and she one shots you. My wife is so strong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can kill her when she finally leaves her neet tower

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't that just a temporary doll body?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe?
            Don‘t think the game mentions her having a backup or something and her being there is clearly meant to mean something
            Maybe she goes back into tiny ranni but who knows

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think it is so ragged because it's the only vessel she has outside the minime and she keeps that hidden as a last resort.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not entirely, that all knowing homosexual does get boss exclusive spells like the flower one if you tell him about it
      lets just say anyone who is allowed to talk to two fingy has cleared it in their own world(s)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because that's Gideon's entire gimmick, the man does nothing for himself and mooches off the info others give to him.
        The dude was waiting for you to burn the Erdtree so he could sneak in before you got there, but got spooked because he is a shitter.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I beat him first try.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Congrats

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda shit but kinda based. Props for a real webm instead of it being an inevitable shitpost.
      Summoning the crew was really noice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wandering nobles
      At least I know you're not lying.

      Rennela can by a hard boss for some people (int enjoyers) due to her massive int resist but yeah hopefully her sister is the "Rennala but malenia tier" hardmode version.

      I remember hearing that there won't be any Malenia-tier bosses for the DLC, but it might just be the devs bamboozling us.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > I remember hearing that there won't be any Malenia-tier bosses for the DLC, but it might just be the devs bamboozling us.
        They said the opposite I thought…? That there were multiple bosses tuned to Malenia level?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They did. Dont reply to posts saying an inversion of what we already know it is a waste of time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do people really summon for their first attempt?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why wouldn't you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, but it didn't LOOK cool, which is more important
      >no stance breaks
      >no strategic use of the shackle
      >got hit by every other attack
      I just beat him on a goose run using the war pick (hammer from drive) and warcry AoW on it (the chair clattering scene from BR47). I did the
      >GAD DAMAAAAATTTTTT
      then charged him with heavy strikes until his stance broke. Last hit was a reposte and I did one final scream then the dejection emote
      It was kino

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After doing everything in Limgrave and the Weeping Peninsula I was lvl 35 and chunked him down on my first go. It's really stupid how the optimal way to play is to damage boost through attacks to get in more hits to lower the stamina of an enemy until they fall over. Bloodborne has better combat than this game.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they just start you on the Weeping Peninsula as tutorial island to begin with?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So you dont have to bother if you dont want to. I go straight to stormveil first in all my runs.
      Weeping pen is some real "tutorial island" shit once you know how to play.

      The real answer is that wasn't their intention. If you read up on the development process under Miyazaki you'd find that figuring out where shit goes is the most haphazard part of their development. Entire bosses are often renamed, moved to a completely different part of the game, and have their lore shuffled.

      This idea that Miyazaki is some genius mastermind is a myth, and only newbies and ER babies don't know that.

      lol Tolkien did the same. Known as the greatest fantasy writer ever.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real answer is that wasn't their intention. If you read up on the development process under Miyazaki you'd find that figuring out where shit goes is the most haphazard part of their development. Entire bosses are often renamed, moved to a completely different part of the game, and have their lore shuffled.

    This idea that Miyazaki is some genius mastermind is a myth, and only newbies and ER babies don't know that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder that attera leaves were used as reward placeholders for when the devs hadn't spread out all the loot yet.
      So whenever you fine one in a chest or the like its because the devs didn't know what to put in there.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Finally give up and look for a guide
    >Literally just use a shield lol
    >It actually works
    NOBODY TOLD ME BLOCKING ACTUALLY WORKS NOW

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy, Miazaki himself beat the game 100% using a Greatshield and spear.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought he hated technology

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Margit has 4174 HP

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >skillcheck
    >he simply input reads and counters instantly

    WOOOOOOW FROMSOFTSISTERS ARN'T WE THE TRUE GAMERS???

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which build are you gonna bring into the DLC first anons, and do you intent to stay faithful to your current weapon or are you gonna switch around and try out as much new shit as possible?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Which build are you gonna bring into the DLC
      dex straight sword then i'm respeccing once i find a new weapon I want to use

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quality 2 handing Claymore and focusing on guard counters with plans to switch to the Light Greatsword ASAP in the DLC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Strength build with heavy iron greatsword. I haven’t played since April of 2022 but I remember shields and guard counters fricking sucking. Now they’re good though? They’re not so useful during boss fights but everywhere else they’re invaluable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They boosted the swing speed of all great sword and bigger type weapons across the board. So now if you do a two handed block into guard counter your still going to eat damage but you can actually hit the opponent and a good three counter hitting is a poise break.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I set up two builds
      >crucible knight cosplay with ordovis and silurias weaps. Str/fth.
      Was intending to use the new crucible incants with this build
      >blackflame monk cosplay with stitcher, peeler, and GS greatsword. Also str/fth, but it leans quality. Also am using as much sleep stuff as I can (meaning just the sword lol)
      My intention was to lean into the sleep portion of the build with new sleep based equipment
      My problem is that I've become too attached to the roleplay of each and I dont think I'll be able to really use as much of the new stuff as I want with them becsuse I honestly can't imagine switching armor or weapons now with them
      SO, I'm making a new Goose based build. The only real requirement is that I'm gonna keep the scorpion kite sheild on my back at all times, but as for weapons, I'm gonna go into the marital arts and throwing weapons for it. Gonna make it quality so I can use as much new stuff as I want. The logic here is that Goose is an actor so he can be anything required of him, so I won't have trouble with getting attached to weapons or armor other than the sheild. Just about to enter stormveil with him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll respec to whatever build has the most fun new weapon like the martial art fists but I'm definitely not using spirit ashes in the DLC, they just make the game too easy

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ps4 limitations

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why did they make this guy harder than godrick?
    He isn't. Stay far away back and he is extremely likely to do that huge leap lunge attack where he jumps across the entire arena to strike at you.
    But that attack is super easy to dodge and he follow that attack with anything which gives you free hits to punish him with after every time he does it. And better yet, even if you were to somehow fail to dodge the easily dodgeable attack. The attack is weaker than you'd think it'd be so you survive the hit and he still can't combo from the move so you're safe.

    So just keep your distance. Get free hits. Run to the other side of the arena restore the distance. Wait for the huge jump. Punish. And run back to the other end of the arena again. And repeat until you win.
    This works in both phases of the fight. And he somehow approaches you without actually doing the jump attack. You just run to restore distance and he will likely do it then instead.

    Any coward is bound to figure this out. Anyone who flees from Margit gets a free victory.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can anyone help me get the multiplayer mod working, me and my buddy are trying to beat soldier of godrick

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