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wait, there's cowbears in Oblivion?
Why do I get the feeling this thread was made by the same moron who kep making those threads saying he has never seen that enemy before and now that he got tired of that one is now going to spam those one
That's manbearpig fricking newbie.
Because, despite its huge flaws of
>broken leveling system
>only having like three voice actors
>copy paste dungeons
>bad combat by today's standards
The actual setting and world bullding itself was pure kino. It's like an early 2000s D&D session concerning cool European mythology and tropes. It's the closest game to LOTR in the elder scrolls series.
Cause is the comfiest game ever
Because it's unironically filled with SOVL, something most modern AAAs don't have.
Morrowind has soul. Oblivion is generic mass appeal garbage.
because you are too stupid to play morrowind and oblivion is more accessible ig
morrowind is significantly easier than oblivion
i measure my games in fun not difficulty.
he didnt say anything about fun
morrowind is already for morons. you arent less moronic for preferring morrowind to oblivion
and nobody said anything about difficulty until this moron strolled up and shouted "YEAH IF IM STUPID THEN WHY IS MORROWIND EASIER THAN OBLIVION?"
? morrowind is not a game you can be too stupid for, its not difficult. its braindead
morrowind requires reading and critical thinking - contrast this to oblivion, where you ignore any dialogue not read to you & follow the quest thingy!!
i didnt think critically once during my entire morrowind playthrough and the only time i didnt know where to go was that one early house redoran quest thats bugged and gives you wrong directions. a monkey can beat this game
you ass hats don't know the meaning of critical thinking. critical thinking isn't some complex obtuse godly feat, it's a simple thing that requires simple effort. as opposed to "follow le quest thingy and receive le dopamine" you get from oblivion latching you to its teat. It's fine that you prefer oblivion as a much more comforting, motherly type of game that guides you through the experience and requires no actual player input to progress through - lots of codbros love cracking open a 'dew and running around mindlessly shooting each other. their opinion and yours are just as valid.
There is no critical thinking required and you have yet to explain what requires critical thinking aside from reading directions to get to objective.
>no critical thinking
>reading directions to get to objective.
I'm sorry that you want me to get you an organized list of every critical thinking moment required from morrowind, so you can proceed to denounce it all as "not critical thinking" because you have no fricking clue what critical thinking is. why not go back to skyrim and do the epic puzzles?
Reading is not critical thinking you fricking moron. Go read the box to warm up your hot pocket, REAL CRITICAL!
there is no effective difference between "go to balmora" and a marker just being put on the map where balmora is. you are grasping at straws to differentiate between morrowind and oblivion because your ego requires morrowind to be more complex
putting a marker on the map is far more complex than what oblivion requires of you.
it literally is you fricking dumb troony. having to READ WORDS and TAKE THE MEANING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE WORDS to find AN OBJECT BASED ON THAT MEANING is CRITICAL THINKING. but god knows you troonys dont value the meaning of words, slowly turning our society into an idiocracy.
You guys are sad directions to an area do not constitute as critical thinking. "Go to the store and buy bread if they have eggs, buy 6" is a more critical statement than any quest in Morrowind
>Go to the store and buy bread if they have eggs, buy 6
morrowind
>Google, bring the directions to the store on my GPS and place an order for them to bring 6 eggs out to my car when i arrive
oblivion
"Reading and Critical thinking" Go pick a flower that stands tall with a red tip, you can find them if you go past the fort and follow the path right. Yeah real critical.
It's the same argument every morrowind gay has "My game is hard because you have to read and find area's using directions" Anyone who has been filtered by reading is a moron but it makes Morrowind gays feel good.
you're braindead and easily entertained
Because you have shit taste
There is nothing wrong with this.
>muh Morrowind
I like Morrowind better than Oblivion, actually. But I prefer to play Oblivion. Just more fun.
Okay. Oblivion is still soulless garbage.
No you are.
>soulless
>bright colours and comfy world
>actual RPG elements that require you to actually keep track of your stats and limits the ability to become the master of all things
Black please.
>NO ITS HAS SOUL WHAT ABOUT THE BRIGHT COLORS!!!
Holy shit are you literally a fricking baby?
>actual RPG elements
>Oblivion
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
RPG elements that require you to actually keep track of your stats and limits the ability to become the master of all things
Anon, I...
Compared to Skyrim it does.
There is 0 difference between Skyrim’s combat and Oblivion’s combat.
ost in oblivion is peak soul, world of oblivion is peak soul, quests are soulful too
That means you like Oblivion more you dipshit. You just want to like Morrowing more on paper because it makes you look like you have better taste but if you never actually want to replay it and only want to replay Oblivion you like Oblivion more. You're lying to yourself.
Not true. I like Dark Souls 1 more than Dark Souls 2, but I've played through DkS2 more often. Why? More gameplay variety. More spells, more weapons, more armors, proper dual wielding.
Oblivion is in that same boat. It is modern enough for me to play and enjoy. If I kill something alongside a hill and I watch it tumble down into a river, it's still rather satisfying for me. Morrowind has superior story, world, and atmosphere, but playing through Oblivion is still more fun.
You're entire argument just makes me think you also like Dark Souls 2 more than 1.
It's not how that works sorry. Playtime doesn't dictate how much you like a game. Mass Effect 1 is like a 20 hour game AT MOST, and it's still better than a lot of games I've sunk 100+ hours into. Dark Souls 2 has more gameplay variety than Dark Souls 1 so it's easier to replay it.
>I'm going to try dual wielding claymores this time
Not something I can do in DS1.
Six bear asses
I really love the style of Oblivion's UI, especially with all the paper rustling and lock buckle noises that accompany it. You can't imagine how disappointed I was when I first saw Skyrim's UI. Damn.
i mean did you expect Skyrim to have the same UI?
I was expecting it to have some kind of creative stylization. Even Fallout 3 was based around using the arm-bound pipboy, with all the appropriate sounds and visual effects included.
Skyrim's is basically just an abstract phone menu.
Same.
Going by the current trends in vidya, there's no reason to think TES6 is not gonna have another soulless iphone UI.
oblivion's UI is consolized dogshit
We're talking about the presentation you dunce.
>Missing the point
and Skyrim's isn't worse in every way? hahahahaha holy frick what a fricking dumb mongrel you are lmao
basically the same shit. honestly skyrim adding meaning in their skill trees was pretty cool since oblivion neutered the meaning of skill levels that morrowind had.
At least you can actually click the UI elements properly. Skyrim’s UI barely functions.
Agreed. Skyrim's UI is the definition of soulless, but we didn't realize it at the time because it was one of the first of its kind.
skyrim was so incredibly soulless through and through
Is it supposed to be bad? It's exactly like morrowind's journal
I like morrowind and oblivion
I like morrowind and oblivion (with mods) (when the mods work)
>Nostalgia/familiarity
>Charming jank
>Atmospheric music
>Gameplay allows for varied playthroughs
>Mods
I had a lot of trouble modding oblivion, it was pretty annoying tbh
Modding with any sort of complexity requires a fair bit of knowledge and patience. I’ve been spending the last week researching and learning how CBPC and HDT hit boxes with in VR.
I can now smack big fat milf and little waif breasts and ass with my hands and watch them jiggle. And pussy already physics works when you put your ingame dick in.
And I configured the futanari wiener and balls to be slap/strokeable.
Oblivion modding is especially terrible, but it's improving.
Because you're a zoomerlite with nostalgia-induced brain damage.
Can't think of any other reason why you would replay this dumpsterfire of a game.
>morrowind & skyrim in VR but not oblivion
is it ever gonna happen bros?
There are so many good things about Oblivion that you have to be a nitpicking homosexual to hate it. By no means is it perfect but it is not bad at all. The music alone is 10/10. Journeying through the world with that soundtrack in the background is so god damned comfy.
If more of the dungeons were unique and there were more hand placed items around (like Umbra) then it could easily be a 10/10.
>you have to be a nitpicking homosexual to hate it
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
Oh man keep going, you delusional obliviongays are a fricking riot
Go ahead and layout all your nitpicks about Oblivion, troony, and how it is THA WURSTEST GAEM EVAR
Why the frick would I lay out a single fricking criticism (of which you are well aware but you choose to ignore because of your shit taste/nostalgia/both) when you have already said you'll ignore it as "nitpicking?" You newbies need to learn how to troll.
>Look I know you are going to refute any point I make so I won't bother, ok?
I accept your concession.
You already "refuted" anything anyone could say by saying it was all nitpicking. Sorry kiddo but you're not equipped to troll on Ganker, try the steam forums or something more your speed.
Seems like I am "trolling" you rather successfully, but I'm not even trying to kek
The levelling system and scaling is fricking garbage.
Of course mods fix this, but just talking about vanilla elder scrolls game, your class and levelling was the worst part of Oblivion and probably why Skyrim is the way it is, because the devs overcompensated for it too much.
>It's Oblivion's fault for why Skyrim is so terrible
Not how that works, troony.
>Every game before Skyrim
Had a class, major skills, minor skills, attributes
>Skyrim
No classes, no differentiation between skill preferentials, no attributes
>every game before skyrim
so it's skyrim's faul
I heard a rumor that you're an idiot, any truth to that?
It is audio-visually appealing eniugh, it has enough gameplay complexity that does not go into bullshit dice rolls, the story is engaging enough, the world is varried enough.
It really is the perfect compromise between casual Skyrim shit and intricate but bullshit Morrowind.
It is enough to captivate both casuals and hardcore RPG players.
>It is enough to captivate both casuals and hardcore RPG players.
actually both camps dislike it for not being casual or hardcore enough
Shit game for trannies
Nothing wrong with this webm. For an open-world rpg, combat mechanics are a means to an end. They are not the main point. Complaining about combat in a Bethesda game is like complaining about the story in Mario Party.
>Nothing wrong with this webm
have a nice day.
>For an open-world rpg, combat mechanics are a means to an end. They are not the main point. Complaining about combat in a Bethesda game is like complaining about the story in Mario Party.
Yeah except in something like Morrowind or Gothic combat is over in a second after you've leveled up. There isn't horrendous scaling that makes every fight extremely tedious to facilitate their child audience who think more combat = more better
>scaling is the problem
get good
>For an open-world rpg, combat mechanics are a means to an end.
No, they're a means to an end in this specific series. There is nothing forcing open-world rpg games to have shit combat.
I love Oblivion! Ganker helped me a lot with my 100% difficulty playthrough. Didn't know damage fatigue causes npcs to pass out.
Pic is my lizard 🙂
you might actually be a woman if you picked the female argonian
nice lizard, is she single?
She is!
Pic related is my equipment
I need it to buff my Magicka more and I also use the telekinesis exploit to get magicka back. 100% can be tough so I use what I find!
>Truncheon of Submission
That heals enemies on hit, doesn't it? I'm interested in how your ordinary combat encounter plays out.
>atronanch
>heavy armor and melee weapon
bruh
Is she a lusty maid?
I've been playing a pure mage (aside froma
little marksman) atronach as well
my best advise for magicka management is to just hoard welkynd stones and make a metric shit ton of restore magicka potions and drink them like they're water
also, get the absorb magicka sigil stones and get to 100% absorb
also use 100% magic weakness of a weapon and a 100% elemental weakness spell to deal double damage with destruction
>and get to 100% absorb
The hilarious thing about having this is taking damage from magic weapons negates the damage entirely. So after a certain point nothing actually hurts you since almost everytthing includes some type of magic damage.
i spent around 3 minutes slapping the shit out of a wraith earlier just for funsies because of that
the dumb b***h couldn't touch me
>Wizard Lizard
>not Lizard Wizard
cringe
For the soul, all elders scroll pre-skyrim are full of it
cuz ur a b***h ass homie
Non-whites detected.
Because you have a child-like, ultra-casual taste for games.
tranime games are shit btw
I swear to god Jeremy Soule's old stuff makes the game practically timeless.
Too bad he had to be dumb. Didn't even matter if he truly did it or not, Bethesda will never hire him again
>none of the allegations stuck
>Soule still stays cancelled lol
How did we get to this 'guilty until proven innocent and then still guilty' culture online?
People can have their lives fricking ruined by a few bad actors with sockpuppet accounts. Or even just a real attention prostitute.
Allegations can be the sentence for a crime by themselves. Unless there is solid evidence disproving the allegation, there will always be someone who doesn't believe you, and there will always be more people who are unsure and won't be willing to take the risk hiring someone who might be.
this is the bawd that accused him btw
Has Soule not litigated against the b***h?
Literally looks like a fricking witch, kek.
looks like a hagraven
>remember how kino oblivions quests were
>replay it
>realize that's literally no choice & consequence and I already know the "cool twist" to virtually all of them
>lose all the will to play
Choice & Consequence really is one of the most important features of making a good quest, isn't it?
Choice and consequence matter but also skill checks. Oblivion's quests are 99% combat gauntlets with any non-combat skill barely ever getting a chance to shine.
Not necessarily. Tenim's Bounty from Morrowind is a fantastic quest but it's just a go here kill this guy quest.
Is that the one where you have to find the hide out in the cave connected to a vampire tomb by exploring and reading notes? Because, I mean, this is something that gives agency to the player. It falls into the same category.
Yes it is. I also only found out recently that if you talk to that vampire while you're a vampire she tells you she's tired of being undead and wants you to kill her.
Morrowind is good at making quests like that. Skyrim has quests like that too, like the lighthouse, but they are few and far between in favor of radiant quests instead which is unfortunate. Oblivion has none of that.
convince me why morrowind is better because the combat alone is just plain moronic
Is this game worth a try for anyone who’s never played an Elder Scrolls game?
I always meant to play this back in like 2007 but I wasn’t too big into medieval fantasy settings.
definitely, but you'll probably enjoy skyrim more. music's way better in oblivion though
Oblivion? Frick no. Try Morrowind for a more traditional RPG and Skyrim for a modern casual one. Oblivion is the awkward middle child with horrible broken mechanics that will make you never want to touch another Elder Scrolls game in your life
100% yes I think it's worth a try.
Are there some good gamepad support mods for it now? Last time I tried there were just some awful keyboard and mouse macros.
morrowind players handshake skyrim players
laughing at obliviongays and their shit taste
I like Oblivion and Skyrim but I can't stand Morrowind. It's like a different genre.
>morrowind players handshake skyrim players
Then you aren't a true Morrowind fan. You are a troony who should kill himself because you will never be a woman.
Eat shit and die, troony. This is pure soul.
obliviongays literally get excited when they see a frickin tree
Non-white detected.
troony detected.
Speak for yourself, non-white troony.
>so glad I have bright happy games like oblivion so I can forget the fact that I'll never be a woman
Cope, troony.
Speak for yourself, pajeet troony.
>posts the worst part of the game as if anyone enjoys spending any time there
Cope, troony.
I like Oblivion gates. That's where all the action happens and you can really test out your character. Your armor, your weapons, your spells, your skills, you can put it all to the test against a bunch of hell spawn. I like the way they look inside as well.
You are non-white troony and you are projecting onto me. Just begone already, nobody likes you or wants you here.
>I like Oblivion gates
This is your brain on HRT.
Cope, troony.
You would know, troony.
Trannies tend to dislike Nature greatly
>skyrim players
I'd rather not catch mental moronation.
do yourself a favor and play KOTOR instead of trying to work with Morrowind
>Star Wars
It's the most relaxing / comfy of all elder scroll games and with landscape mods it has the best geography. morrowind and skyrim are too hostile, you wouldn't want to live there
>It's the most relaxing / comfy of all elder scroll games
Yup. If this were a real place and the tavern owner was nice, you'd pay 8 gold coins to spend the night in a room as well.
Because you're a nostalgiahomosexual. Same reason people like garbage like Fable
>but omg muh fantasy for kids setting is so heckin comfy ;*~~
Embarrassing
Dang man, epic post, take my upvote, wish I could give you silver but I gave all my money to Ninja!
OLD GAMES = BAD
LE NOSTALGIA GOGGLES LOL
zoomer homosexual r*dditor
Oblivion is zoomershit you braindead newbie. Get the frick out.
>2006 game is zoomershit
This is how I know you're a genuine moron, you don't even understand the meaning of the words you use. Anyway, have a nice day
>dumbed down for moronic console babies
>not zoomershit
Keep deluding yourselves. It's a piece of shit for casualgay children. Just because you're nostalgic for it now doesn't mean it's not still garbage for kids.
Again, you don't know the meaning of the words you're using and now you're trying to deflect. You're a pathetic moron.
Just say you prefer morrowind and be done with it instead of humiliating yourself.
>um you dont understand le intricacies of moronic Ganker buzzwords like I do buddy
Yeah this really reflects poorly on me.
>my inability to express myself clearly surely doesn't show everyone i'm an actual moron
80 iq post
Seriously, how old are you gramps? If you think Oblivion is zoomer shit you gotta be ancient.
Not him but Gen Z (zoomers) start with 1990+ birth date. Console kids in 2006 (=zoomers) were the primary target audience for Oblivion, making it a zoomer game.
It definitely was a disappointing game that marked the decline of Elder Scrolls overall.
Zoomers is late 90's early 2000s, do you really think 5 years old play games like Oblivion? you fricking moron
Cope. If you don't remember the clinton presidency you are zoomer, simple as.
>i don't understand the meaning of words so i'm going to act like a moron
You're the one coping. Also stop acting like some edgy oldgay, you're not the only being 30+
>Not him but Gen Z (zoomers) start with 1990+ birth date
No it didn't moron it started late 90's, ~97 give or take a year or two depending on which data source you're looking at.
>1994
phew, I made it boomerbros
>1994
You are a zoomer.
>Console kids in 2006 (=zoomers) were the primary target audience for Oblivion, making it a zoomer game.
Jesus christ you're a delusional moron. The average aged Gen Y/millennial was 18 or 19 when Oblivion came out, THAT was the target audience not gen Z kids at the time.
I'm 25 and I remember Oblivion's marketing and several of my friends bought the game. You're fricking moronic.
>me and my friends bought the game so we're the audience!
Absolute moron. Adults are the biggest consumers of video games and its not even close. Adults were the target audience for Oblivion. I've worked for game studios, you're just a moron talking shit about something you have no understanding of.
So all the nostalgiagays in these threads are actually fricking 33+? You're out of your fricking mind you semantics Black person.
average millennial was 16-18, not 18-19 when it first came out. your point still remains anyway
they are stupid for saying zoomers were the target though. it was like with halo 2 and 3, WaW, MW2 - a ton of zillennial and zoomer squeakers enjoyed them, but they weren't the target.
that being said, i'm glad they enjoyed them too
I’m 32 and I was 16 when it dropped. I distinctly remember the hype train, and the personal disappointment when it wasn’t as weird or off the wall as Morrowind, but still liking it.
Why did people assume it would be weird? All the promotional material for Oblivion revealed it to be a more traditional European style RPG. At least there was the Shiverling Isles DLC.
Because Morrowind was there first TES, so they thought that's how the entire series was. Everyone ignores MW was supposed to be an exception.
Shivering Isles was weird for the sake of weird which isn't what Morrowind was at all
>Shivering Isles was weird for the sake of weird
Yes and it was fine. You are inside the realm of a madman. Morrowind is supposed to be an actual place, the Shivering Isles is madness come to life.
Okay sure, but weird for the sake of it is shallow and boring unless you're 10 years old
>but weird for the sake of it is shallow and boring
The Shivering Isles is an alternate dimension where a crazy man is god. Morrowind is supposed to be an actual place that literally shares borders with Skyrim and Cyrodiil. They absolutely shouldn't feel the same, and the Shivering Isles should absolutely feel more surreal while Morrowind should feel more genuine. Bethesda did a very good job with the atmosphere / feel of the worlds.
Shivering Isles was too LEL SO LE RANDUMB XD, but I suppose that was the style at the time
here
That doesn't refute my point that Shivering Isles' style of madness is just lel so randumb xd instead of proper insanity
>It's just le dumb b-because... because I said so!
You're vaccinated aren't you?
>You couldn't just like... surrender!
It's nitpicking.
>You couldn't just like... surrender!
So you're nitpicking one thing that was said in order to dismiss everything else?
Everything was kind of a nitpick
>You can't visit the yellow team's side
>There aren't more arenas
>The orc's quest line isn't connected
Number 1) I don't see the reason to visit the yellow team's quarters. That is just weird. In sports, as in the arenas, the two sides have their own lockers and do not mingle before and after a game.
2) The arena is just a small part of a 250 hour game. This isn't a game revolving around an arena. There could be more of everything with this line of logic.
3) The orc quest is optional. You can choose to not give a shit about it, fight him in the arena and lay claim to his title. Yeah, it's not directly related to the arena, and that's fine, it doesn't have to be. This is not a flaw. This is just the life of a gladiator. He probably knows he's going to die one day in battle and he'd like you do some digging into his past to see if the rumours he had heard about his heritage are true. A little humanization of a gladiator. It's actually a good quest line. The fact that the truth is worse than he could have imagined and the fact he will idly stand by and allow you to kill him because he feels so much disgrace in the arena duel is... good. And the fact that it doesn't directly relate with the arena itself and it's actually just about the life of the Champion is not a flaw at all.
>Everything was kind of a nitpick
>ignores the main issue that was the repetitive location and fights
kek it's an arena you stupid frick. Do you know how arenas work? Imagine if a critic saw Gladiator and criticized "hmmm yeah. Maximus fights a grand total of FOUR TIMES in the SAME ROMAN COLOSSEUM" he would be fricking laughed out of a job.
>it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
Yeah whatever. Enjoy your garbage game for kindergartners
morrowind doesn't even have an arena questline. you get a brief glimpse of it in the morag tog questline and its otherwise empty and soulless just like a large portion of morrowind as a whole
>morrowind doesn't even have an arena questline
Why would it? The arena in Vivec is not for gladiatorial combat.
You are a stupid person and you make up bullshit because you have no argument. It is an arena. You fight at the arena. There are a few quests which take you out of the arena if you talk to the other gladiators, but for the most part the arena quests take place.... AT THE ARENA. moron.
>it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
>morrowind enjoyer criticizing a questline for being repetitive
You are a stupid person, like I said.
>you still don't get it? it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
>The arena just has you fight in the arena too often
You are moronic.
>it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
I think you genuinely have mental illness, friend.
Better than being such an uncreative, shit taste having moron that you literally cannot feasibly think of any practical way to make Oblivion's repetitive Arena questline better.
>no you fight in arena that all you need
A literal fricking gorilla could come up with more ideas.
you are actually autistic about the arena. thats what an arena questline is supposed to be, fighting in an arena. idk if that guy is saying the arena is perfect cuz im not paying attention to your autism, but its a fine questline for what an arena is supposed to be. maybe they should have thrown in more monsters to switch up the encounters, but the questline ending with a trip to vampire land and the revelation of the champion being a vampire spawn is already more effort than morrowind's arena (morag tong) quests
>oblivions arena is good because you fight in an arena
I wish I could save you people from your horrid taste.
I think you are genuinely an autistic frick.
Literally ANYTHING could be better you nitpicking moron. Oblivion is a 250 hour game and the arena is like a 2 hour thing. It's NOT what the game is about. Your autistic and frankly underaged mind cannot wrap itself around that.
>B-b-but there should be like 5 arenas!
Yes and there should be 5 more cities, and 36 more questlines. Why the frick not, right?
>Oblivion is a 250 hour game
Yes. Easily.
Doing what? The meat of the game is the shitty quests, (which it still has less of than morrowind and skyrim) exploring the world is literal torture and does not pad out the game at all.
Main Quest + all the guild quest lines + a bunch of side quests
I don't know how long it takes, but I do not rush them. I don't even have to force myself to pace myself, I just do a few quests then every now and again I actually want to find some random fort / dungeon / Oblivion gate and kill some monsters and level up my skills, go back to my skingrad home and drop off a bunch of loot. Walk around town, jumping on things, talking to random NPCs to see what's going on etc. Maybe focus on leveling my illusion skill and seek out the master trainer and deal with those shenanigans for a while. Oblivion is easily a 250 hour game.
I think the last time I played Oblivion on a new save, I got up to 100 hours and all I did was the Mage's Quest line and got part way through the thieve's guild and did a bunch of other random crap here and there. No main quest line. No DB. No FG.
>I don't know how long it takes
About 30-50 hours.
Well I'd hate to be that guy, but
>You are playing it wrong
If you are rushing through a game like Oblivion and you aren't stopping to smell the roses, that is on you. Oblivion isn't an MMO rat-race.
>you aren't stopping to smell the roses
The roses smell like shit in Oblivion.
Go be an edgy homosexual somewhere else, kid.
>The game has level scaling that facilitates playing through the game as quick as you want. You can beat all the content at level 1 and not have a single issue.
This is totally your issue. If you are min/maxxing in a single player RPG then you might have autism. Me? I want to use the cool epic sword and fight off a canopy of daedric monsters. I am going to be over level 20 before I finish the main quest. You are going to finish the game at level 1 using some basic sword and the end-game battle is going to be you vs. 2 scamps. You have yourself to blame for this poor experience. You can argue that Bethesda should have never given you this type of control over how you are allowed to play the game, but I will still say you ruined your own game. Just level up and play the game as intended and you will get the most out of it, autismo.
Not reading your cope. RPGs and video games in general are supposed to gradually increase challenge and danger in various ways, usually through progression or different areas being various levels of danger (and the progression of the game will lead you to the more dangerous areas). Tying this progression to your current level and not to the need of the quests or area is completely moronic and Bethesda as well as you are fricking moronic.
You min/maxxed in a single player RPG and ruined your own experience. How is it that I am coping? I am telling you the truth. Just play Oblivion and level up and enjoy it and you will get the most out of it. If the final battle is you vs. 2 scamps and not 3 Xivilai and 5 other massive daedric monsters you've only robbed yourself.
>if you play the game normally you min maxxed
Stop coping this hard it isn't healthy
>finishing the main quest at level 1
You didn't play the game normally, sorry. You are the one who is coping, stop projecting, you autistic bastard.
I said you CAN do that, and that you shouldn't be able to (at least not without exploits and whatnot). If you play through the entire main quest of Oblivion normally you'll probably end up at like level 7 by the end. You're suggesting the player purposefully hold off on doing content so it's more "epic" when you do it because the game is designed so horribly you have to make it good yourself.
When I first played through Oblivion, before I finished the main quest I did the arena stuff, I did the Dark Brotherhood quest line, I did the mage's guild, I did a few quests for the Fighter's guild, I got started on the Thieve's guild, I did a plethora of other random quests here and there, and in between all that I did a bit of exploring, I did the odd cave, ayleid ruin, fort, and Oblivion gate.
>but they are repetitve!
Yeah of course, I didn't do them all. But if you did like 3 of each of them, they're fine.
When I finished the main quest I was at around level 20, and I am going to go ahead and say... I think this is how the game was meant to be played. Really. It's just that simple. If you rushed the main quest and did nothing else, then I think you played the game wrong.
You're really dense. Yes, you can ignore the threat of the main quest and do random shit until level 20 and it might feel better than way but that's not what the game is telling you to do. Caius Cosades telling you to go do some freelancing or the several natural breaks in Morrowind's main quest are designed for you to go explore the side shit. Nearly every step of Oblivion's main quest establishes a threat you should deal with ASAP, so unless you just break the logic of the game world and go do what you want to do you're going to end up finishing the main quest at a low level, which like I fricking said, shouldn't even been possible but the moronic scaling makes it so.
*shrugs* idk what to say. You're playing an open world RPG. You should have taken the initiative to explore a dungeon or two, break the law here and there, overhear some random stranger and get invovled with something. There is nothing in the game that suggests your character autistically followed the path until he completed the MQ. Maybe he got attacked by a vampire and got the vampire disease and had to stop everything to go deal with it. Maybe you came across the shrine of Hircine on your travels and he had you go chase a unicorn down. In an RPG, you make the story.
>doing what you can to stop the end of the world is "autistically following the path to complete the main quest"
This discussion is just too high IQ for you I guess. Nevermind.
I think you just have too much autism to understand what I am telling you, friend. There's always some world ending threat. Think of Oblivion like a TV series with 3-4 seasons. There's always some filler shit in there where some wizard turns the main hero into a rabbit and he's gotta deal with this shit before getting back to the big world ending plotline. Do you get it yet, you autistic frick?
>morrowind's threat is a guy that's been there for hundreds of years and people don't really care or realize the threat he presents for the distant future
>oblivion's threat is a demon lord that is presently invading and is trying to take over the world as fast as he can
hmmm.... whats da difference ? dey both look da same 2 me!
You are the one with low IQ and it's paired with crippling autism, sorry kid.
>you're autistic because you want games to make sense and be designed well!! JUST ENJOY THE GOYSLOP AND DONT ASK QUESTIONS!!!! JUST BE OKAY WITH MEDIOCRITIY!!!!
Like I said, this discussion is just too high IQ for you.
Do you know what filler is? You watch enough. tranime, I'm sure you know. Sometimes the hero, willingly or unwillingly, gets sidetracked and has to deal with unexpected problems. You should be stumbling around Oblivion and doing whatever comes your way. I think that is exactly how it was intended to be played. You pass by a village and there is an Oblivion gate nearby? You are supposed to go close it and protect those villagers. Pass by a weird small town (Hackdirt) and all the townspeople are acting like some sort of weird cultists? Solve the mystery! Of course, you can pass by like 50% of it and still be fine. I'm just saying, Oblivion was meant to be played like that. Sorry, but I think you have autism and I am beginning to repeat myself, I might not message you again... Sorry!
>oblivion is actually like a television show with a vague end goal for the main character that's really just an excuse to further the show along
You are unbelievably fricking moronic and smoking so much copium you might overdose
>DUDE NO, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO IGNORE EVERYTHING IN THE GAME, LIKE 99% OF THE CONTENT AND JUST LASER-IN AND FOCUS ON THE MAIN QUEST
That is your autism speaking. Anyways, I'm going to go eat some food. Maybe I'll come back before this thread 404s.
Yes you're supposed to ignore someone who lost their favorite potato while you're fricking dealing with an end of the world demon invasion. You are too low IQ to have this discussion.
The game has level scaling that facilitates playing through the game as quick as you want. You can beat all the content at level 1 and not have a single issue. The main quest also encourages you to play through it as fast as you can as there's a lot of artificial tension. There's also the enormous amounts of repetitive dungeons and level scaled loot which kills the desire to explore. If you think Oblivion is some deep slow paced game that's because you see it that way. It's not how the game is designed.
This is some shit Todd Howard would say.
Well I guess he'd be right then.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE ARENA SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST GOING TO THE SAME SHITTY CIRCLE AND KILLING A GENERIC ENEMY???
>OH SO YOU THINK WE NEED 659034285903426843905 DIFFERENT MASTERPIECE QUESTLINES HUH????
Goddamn what is wrong with fricking obliviongays
>WHY IS THE ARENA IN THE ARENA
When autism speaks kek
>it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
starting to think this dude is an oblivion gay falseflagging or samegayging to make morrowind chads look autistic
He's obviously a moron but there are people who think Morrowind is deep because you have to read which is equally moronic.
deeper than shitblivion. cry about it
Reading to find a quest location is the only thing that separates it from oblivion, It's not deeper, or harder.
hahahaha cope. if it's not more difficult, why go with baby quest markers?
Because Oblivion is more fun, with better music, funny NPCs and I like it more 🙂
in the literal sense reading is objectively more difficult than following a quest marker. that's why any true oblivion fan mods the game to remove quest markers.
>i mod oblivion to make it more like the superior game, but oblivion is better, really!
ok dude
That's right goy, the Arena was as good as it could've been! How could you possibly make it more than fighting copy pasted humans in a small flat circle? It's literally impossible! And we have 4 other factions to work on too! Sure Morrowind had 10+ factions, but those were all MMO fetch quests right! Err... isn't the Arena nothing but thoughtless go here and kill this guy quests? Well nevermind that! We did our best! That'll be $60 + tip!
lol it's this fricking homosexual again. Back for more, eh?
By the way, Oblivion was an incredibly ambitious game at the time. Go fricking have a nice day, stupid trannies.
Wow Oblivion was ambitious. So were a shit ton of games that suck dick.
This board isn't for underaged users.
Join the 41% troony.
no u homosexual, get some new material god damn.
No, seriously nobody outside of this shithole cares or even thinks about trannies on even a weekly basis. It's practically every thread here. Trannies and the sick fricks obsessed with them were on of the worst things to happen to this board. Please, for the love of christ get a new fetish. We're coming up on half a decade, it's time.
Just tie a rope already, dude. You'll never be a chick.
Projecting hard.
Take a break guy, like a month. Look outside the cave and realize the world isn't what you were told.
>lol c'mon dude, the troony boogyman isn't real! SJWs? Hah! Wtf is that dude. C'mon
I genuinely hope you have a nice day.
>oblivion is shit
>rrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGGHGHHHH troony troony troony GET OFF MY BOARD troony YOUR A troony GROOMER troony !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would I kill myself? I live in the real world and I'm a happy well adjusted person. I see 0 trannies on a daily basis nor do I think about them ever outside of running into you schizos. Try an exercise: Record how many times you say trans/trannies a day. Record how many times you think about them. Take notice of the rot that's consumed your brain.
depends how many times i see your posts in a day
Around 10+ years ago, people online were saying "SJW boogeyman! SJW boogeyman is going to get you ooooo" mocking the idea that they even existed, and look at what has happened in the past 10 or so years. Look at how much these fricking loudmouths changed the course of gaming. Just because you are stupid as shit and don't realize what is going on around you doesn't mean it isn't happening. Now please fashion yourself a rope, moron.
Okay now please tell me what criticizing Oblivion has to do with being a troony
If you are the person I am replying to, you just tried to explain how the troony menace isn’t real and how people thought SJWs weren’t real 10 years ago, or were just a small group to be laughed at and ignored. If you are replying to random ongoing conversations, just kys.
So you have no reason. You just turn video game discussions into troony discussions because you're fricking obsessed.
I exactly stated my reason, dumb dumb.
What happened? Really what games that any of us would give a shit about in the first place were infiltrated by that semen demon? The general lack of quality is a skills and retiring old guard issue more than anything else. The SJW shit actually was a boogeyman. Trannies are just your generations versions of furries, except there's even less of them and they're not going to be around for long anyway.
Get help.
being a furry was never acceptable in online spaces
>t. underage
no u homosexual, rid us of your obsessive fetish.
>YOU'RE JUST OBSESSED
Yeah you are a troony. Just have a nice day. Give your parents some rest.
>I’m totally healthy and fine and well adjusted!
Exactly what a troony might say kek
>Look outside the cave and realize the world isn't what you were told
Trannies basically don't exist IRL so long as you don't live in one of those super liberal West coast cities like Portland/Seattle
Oblivion thread btw
This meme was funny 6 years ago, and it's still funny today.
anon im glad that you're able to willfully ignore the constant subtle troony groomers, but they are still there, and everywhere. and until the pedoverse of trannies is disintegrated, they will remain the butt end bottom rung insult.
literal schizophrenia
I'm gunna be honest with you, dude. The term "brojob" originated from the period you are glorifying. You sound like you are just super gay and in denial, everything you like is from like the most unapologetically gayest period in recent history.
and im the schizo. go suck all the dick you want i dont care.
I don't care if you are gay. I'm just telling you the truth.
Why are you so obsessed with trannies? You Black folk have been shitting up this board for years and you always just fall back on the same tired ass copy pasted retorts. I'm so tired of hearing about trannies, I hear more about trannies on this site than I do anywhere else tenfold, It's fricking old.
its because other sites require you to caress the troony ego, girl power!
any board with no forced troony care will belittle the ever little frick out of them until they 41 or can stop forcing their fetish on everyone they interact with.
So you use it as a misnomer when you have no argument? Sorry I don't see the connection.
>It's just le dumb b-because... because I said so!
CHEESE
Don't bother trying to reason with these morons. I saw some fricktard say Sheogorath was actually an extremely deep and tragic character because he slowly becomes less wacky over the course of the Shivering Isles cause he's turning into Jyggalag. Yes, he seriously used the word "tragic."
You are stupid and you are wrong by definition.
Generation Z or better known as "Zoomers" start at 1997 you fricking moron.
Gen Z literally starts at 1997+ and this iron fact makes 35/40/50 olds seethe like nothing else, as a matter of fact they gaslighted themselves aussie shitposting style into gradually creeping Gen Z spawn period to 1990+/CURRENT YEAR and they would go straight to 1987+ if they could.
The amount of troony tier delusional narrative I see from 35+ years old on this subject is devastating and extremely unfunny now.
my bet is it's mostly other zoomers so desperate to fit in. just like ITT
they speak of both boomers and zoomers, way before you unfunny kiddies started spamming wojak garbage everywhere. now keep moving that goalpost.
>Gen Z literally starts at 1997+
lol every time I see someone say "gen z starts at [x]" they year count always goes up one
>and they would go straight to 1987+ if they could
For some for them, you might be right. I had seen in a comment section a couple months a couple early 80s losers shitting on the even the late 80s over the old "90s kids" meme
it's very rare to see it get pushed back that far, but I've seen it a few times
Wow the stupidest person on Ganker, what an accomplishment. The level of delusion is unbelievable, seek professional help
no one who had sex feels the need to act like this. Your jaded virginity is off the charts.
literal brainlet right here. zoomer is not a Ganker buzzword, dude.
you're entire post is incorrect, anon.
>zoomer is not a Ganker buzzword
Where do you think all this boomer/zoomer garbage started? Some homosexual forced a wojak edit across every board four years ago, until it caught on
>Where do you think all this boomer/zoomer garbage started?
years before the idea behind 4chinks was even conceived, you wojak-obssessed ape. ever heard of baby boomers? it's really interesting to see some underage gay go around and shit all over other zoomers jus to try and fit in.
Yeah everyone remembers baby zoomers right?? Oh wait no ZZZZZZZZZoomer comes from Ganker and incorrectly calling 30 year olds boomers also did. Baby boomers is something completely fricking different. You are fricking stupid.
literally take a step outside Ganker, you absolute Black person brainlets. i swear, your meme-addled brains are incapable of a single thought without constantly salivating over wojaks.
neither of those quotes are talking about generation z but empty nest baby boomers that are still active
Oblivion is the contrarian TES game. This has always been a Morrowind board.
>You can't like both things
Find one post that claims Oblivion is better than Morrowind. I'll wait.
sorry, I'm not a tribalistic Black
Right, you're just someone that likes everything because they have no personality or critical thinking skills
Not sure about that but whatever helps you cope, mr strawman
I love you sensationalist homosexuals so much.
>simply liking Oblivion triggers the average Ganker tard this hard
You're a fricking idiot, see pic related
>Oblivion is zoomershit
Are you like 40 years old? Oblivion is older than a lot of zoomers.
Why is it so hard to find mods that feel like they would be a lore-friendly extension of the game itself? 99% of mods are made by some 16 year old wannabe game designer with a fetish for anime or some skimpy clothing bullshit.
Funny how "troony" became the new "homosexual" when homosexuals took over the board.
Because it's FUN
Because it was the new Elder Scrolls when you were young. I spent so much time on Oblivion on my old 360 that I completed almost all of the quests for the main game, and both of the expansions. I really heavily enjoyed it.
I couldn't play Skyrim for the life of me though. I got bored within four hours and stopped. I haven't even tried Morrowind yet, and I likely never will.
I haven't gone back to Oblivion because there's so many great games that I'm playing now, but I still remember it fondly.
And I think that we're seeing recent Oblivion nostalgia now because many of the people who were young and played Oblivion as their first TES game are now getting into their 30s. They have their life set up and they're getting back to some of those old games. We're in the 20-year nostalgia cycle for the early 00s now.
>made the perfect big titty argonian years ago
>never took any screenshots
>can't remake it since modded oblivion does not work on linux
>character only exists in my mind now
>Keep deluding yourselves. It's a piece of shit for casualgay children. Just because you're nostalgic for it now doesn't mean it's not still garbage for kids.
Because you have awful taste and can't play better game. Why else would you play the second worse ES games of the main serie after Arena?
>Shit game. Shit taste. Play Morrowind or mod skyrim.
No.
Shit game. Shit taste. Play Morrowind or mod skyrim.
I loved it when I was 12 and had never played an open world RPG before
It's aged like milk on a hot day, full of mid-2000s console bullshit and mechanically it's completely broken
The MorroBlack folk pretending Skyrim is good just to shit on Oblivion should be shot in the throat.
I just replayed Oblivion and it was awful. Only finished it because I was streaming it to my buddies for shits and giggles.
>yeah this shit was awful haha (am I fitting in yet fellow MORROWSCHOLARS?)
>btw we laughed our asses off and had the time of our lives
The absolute VILLAGE of online tribal contrarianism.
Oblivion is the only TES game I've never wanted to replay. I have no interest to explore or experiment with builds. The mechanics are anti-fun. Quests are interesting exactly once. I'm good bro.
Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim
Not really, at least Skyrim has mods.
Oblivion's nexusmods is dry af
>HEH! DOOOOOD YOU CAN PUT THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE IN SKYRIM
Reddit is that way
Who are you quoting?
Because you are a lazy normalgay.
>he doesn't mod genitalia to all naked beasts
I recently replayed Morrowind for the first time since release. Loved it. I used overhaul mod. I felt it didn't frick too much with the original visuals.
What oblivion mods are a must that don't make it not look like OG Oblivion and lose its SOVL?
none. complete the arena quest line first, on a 360 suffering from the RoD for full experience.
>look
Did you mean graphical mods? There's this character overhaul mod that eliminates the infamous bethesda faces.
If you meant overhaul mods, get anything that reworks the leveling system and maybe loot/rewards. That's pretty much the only thing you need. Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul is good.
>It´s actually finished
>great gameplay
>grinding actually get´s you somewhere, you can loot everything
>powerfull spell system
>good story writing
>you can actually kick ass and have fun doing it
>it´s challenging, not annoying
>not moron easy like skyrim
>no broken mechanics like Morrowind
Get past the annoying bloom and graphics are pretty decent. One of the best Elder Scrolls.
Accurate and Oblivion-pilled.
>It´s actually finished
Huh? So much was cut it started the Todd's lies meme.
Is this an ironic post? If not I seriously worry for your sanity
>no broken mechanics like Morrowind
It has all the broken mechanics of Morrowind, plus new ones. The only thing cut was being able to have fun with them.
that comic almost sounds like it could have been a Boondocks scene
Nice shitpost.
I've always loved this comic for it's sheer ridiculousness and lowkey casual racism.
lowkey?
Shivering Isles is overrated
Most of the guild quests in Oblivion have shit writing (especially the second half of the Dark Brotherhood)
Dungeons are worse than Skyrim and Morrowind
Combat is worse than Skyrim and Morrowind
Lore rape is the worst
>Lore rape is the worst
Oblivion follows the lore quite well, with just a few retcons; and every TES game retcons shit, so it doesn't matter.
Retconning the entire province from a jungle and erasing the cultural differences between colovian and nibenese people was too much
retconning is usually fine if the end result is worth it. turning oblivion into generic fantasyland because they didn't want to or have time to focus on cyrodiil's culture is unforgivable
>unforgivable
Yes, how do they dare change what the PGE1 said, even though it was never a lore bible and Morrowind already did retcons.
>complains about the guild quests in Oblivion
Has your moronic brain ever played through Skyrim's guild quests? They are all fricking absurd.
>"Hello traveller, can you please deliver this note for me? I'm rather taken by other matters at the moment.
>*deliver note*
>"WOW! THANK YOU! YOU'RE AMAZING! YOU ARE NOW THE GRAND MASTER OF WINTERHOLD'S COLLEGE, TRAVELLER!"
Yeah they're shit too
If we are going to compare then Oblivion's are much better. I actually rather enjoy the guild quest lines in Oblivion, especially the DB.
>especially the DB.
Only the first half of the DB is good
Everything after the purge is full moron
The fighter's guild too? Because most of it is doing menial jobs.
Fighter's guild was shit too
Blackwood Company was such wasted potential
Mages Guild is good (except "boss" battles). The entry quests are excellent. Really makes the player feel like becoming a mage is an actual honor.
Thieves Guild quests are great too.
Mages Guild was literally a harry potter rip off lul
I never once got the sense of any Harry Potter in Oblivion's mage guild kek wtf are you on about.
Because you are student in a modern day college, that's not what it's supposed to be. It's a guild and you are a grown ass man.
??
It's not like you attend classes or anything. And in any case, the structure of the college is more like a research institute. The mind's of wizards are brought together to explore the depths of magic.
>the college is more like a research institute. The mind's of wizards are brought together to explore the depths of magic
But it's not like that.
Yes it is, that's all it is. It's not a traditional modern school as you are putting it.
Then what are you doing by spellmaking OP spells?
You can't do that until the end.
IIRC, you can do it as soon as you get access to those rooms which is like half way through the Mage's quest line.
completing the mage's guild intro just pissed me off because you go to all the effort of making a staff that is instantly worthless due to level scaling
The Arena is pure garbage. As low effort and repetitive as it gets.
The Fighters Guild is also shit. Same as the Arena, it's low effort and repetitive. Oblivion's combat isn't its strong suit and you have to fight so much shit in the Fighters Guild and delve into so many repetitive dungeons. 9/10 times when someone says they like the Fighters Guild it's because of the like 2 quests that involve fricking with the Blackwood Company and the contrived hist sap twist.
The Mages Guild is... also shit. A lot of forgettable busy work at the beginning, some of it is alright but it's mostly just random odd jobs and the concept of "each school represents a different school of magic" is handled so fricking poorly. The Arcane University is just forgettable necromancer dungeon after forgettable necromancer dungeon. Then there's the Mannimarco fight at the end.
The Dark Brotherhood has okay quests to start with, they're really simple and easy stealth quests but meh whatever they're alright, but then the story "picks up" and you have to do those dead drop quests and it becomes shit. There's a lot of gimmick quests which people seem to really like for some reason, like dropping the bear head on the guy or "hiding in a crate" to get onto that pirate ship.
The Thieves Guild is actually good. The required thievery is a good system for the guild to determine your worth to the guild (other than just a fricking skill check which Oblivion seems to be allergic to) and there are some fun quests and a decent story even if the character writing is really unnatural and goofy. Frick them for putting that massive sewer crawl and ayleid dungeon before the cool Imperial palace heist though. Really detracts from that quest.
So really you have 1 guild that's good, 1 that's mediocre, and 3 that are mostly shit.
Arena is pure soul, mate. Way to out yourself as a bed shitter. The fricking announcer and the cheers from the crowd. So damn good.
I never cared for the Fighter's Guild myself.
The Mage's Guild is fun.
The Dark Brotherhood is kino as frick.
Thieves Guild is kino as frick.
1 shit one, but 4 good ones as I see it.
>the guild is good because there is good voice acting and the crowd cheers
This is why I fricking hate speaking to oblivion fanboys. There's always so much circlejerking about how "the quests are amazing" or "the guilds are fantastic" and you engage with them and they just like it cause of some superficial reason. No wonder rpgcodexgays thought this game would kill RPGs as a genre.
Dropping the head on the guy or sneaking into the crate is a gimmick. The "mechanic" exists for 1 single quest and is never seen again. Sneaking past the guards in the sewer to get to the target in the prison is not a gimmick, because it appropriately uses light, guard patterns, the sneaking skill, etc in a way that the rest of the game uses those things.
>The "mechanic" exists for 1 single quest and is never seen again
How's that a bad thing? It still serves its purpoes and spices up the game. Would I like to see more unconventional quests in Oblivion? Yeah, for sure. But them not being in 1 in 3 or 1 in 5 quests isn't detrimental. Dunno why you're so cynical.
The stuffed head quest would be better if you had to sneak a poisoned apple into his food cabinet. That's consistent with the mechanics of the game. Gimmicks don't spice up the game they show a lack of effort on the designers to use the game's established mechanics in creative, interesting, or challenging ways. It's not a huge deal but a decent chunk of Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood quests lean hard on gimmicks that are lame the first time and boring on replaying. I don't even think the pirate assassination is bad, the fact that you can jump to the back of the ship to lockpick your way in is great, but every single fricking time I see someone talk about it it's always "you can sneak in a crate bro its crazy!!!" (even though that actually makes the quest needlessly more difficult too)
The fact that the Arena is all in one boring, badly designed location kills it gameplay wise. They needed multiple Arenas, each with their own layout and traps you could lead the AI into. Different Arenas requiring different skills/styles like "this is the marksman arena" or "we only fight with a towel on here" would help too. It was clear they were just throwing it in the game because it was an idea they had and not because they wanted to actually flesh it out. There are a ton of logic ideas that prove this too, like the absurd amounts of people that would've had to die for all the fights to happen, the idea of an arena where you literally can't surrender somehow being for the civilized Cyrodiil's entertainment, the fact that the Yellow team doesn't even have their own living quarters. The orc quest is also stupid, it has nothing to do with the arena and is just another random idea a developer had so they put it in. It's just a dungeon quest where you go fetch a book. Yes it has the twist where the guy throws the arena match but the quest itself is pretty lazy and unrelated to the arena itself, and it's the only fricking quest that feels like they tried.
>The fact that the Arena is all in one boring, badly designed location kills it gameplay wise. They needed multiple Arenas, each with their own layout and traps you could lead the AI into. Different Arenas requiring different skills/styles like "this is the marksman arena" or "we only fight with a towel on here" would help too. It was clear they were just throwing it in the game because it was an idea they had and not because they wanted to actually flesh it out. There are a ton of logic ideas that prove this too, like the absurd amounts of people that would've had to die for all the fights to happen, the idea of an arena where you literally can't surrender somehow being for the civilized Cyrodiil's entertainment, the fact that the Yellow team doesn't even have their own living quarters. The orc quest is also stupid, it has nothing to do with the arena and is just another random idea a developer had so they put it in. It's just a dungeon quest where you go fetch a book. Yes it has the twist where the guy throws the arena match but the quest itself is pretty lazy and unrelated to the arena itself, and it's the only fricking quest that feels like they tried.
You are just nitpicking here.
nta but lmao what
>Gimmicks don't spice up the game they show a lack of effort on the designers
I really don't understand you anon. It's like you want to complain for just for complaining's sake or trying your damned hardest to pin something bad on alternate quest solutions.
>dropping the deer head is not good but in fact a bad thing
>planting poisoned apples is not good but in fact a bad thing
>switching some medicine for a deadly poison is not good but in fact a bad thing
>hiding in a crate and infiltrating is not good but in fact a bad thing
I said planting poisoned apples IS a good thing. Swapping the poisons/medicine is fine cause the quest doesn't draw much attention to it and it's really just used as an excuse for you to not want to get caught. People say they enjoying dropping the stuffed head on the guy but no one says they enjoyed swapping out the medicine, cause the point of the false medicine quest in sneaking past the guards without getting caught. The point of the stuffed head quest is the gimmick. Yes you also sneak past the man servant but it's extremely easy to.
just want to say that if the arena was in skyrim the obliviongays would say it was nothing but generic and boring "go here, kill this" quests
>This is why I fricking hate speaking to oblivion fanboys. There's always so much circlejerking about how "the quests are amazing" or "the guilds are fantastic" and you engage with them and they just like it cause of some superficial reason. No wonder rpgcodexgays thought this game would kill RPGs as a genre.
kek. It's a fricking arena in a video game. Yes, presentation matters. And it's usually the first thing I do in every playthrough to get some decent gold and armor and boost my skills up a bit, and I usually have a fun ride doing it. If you want to get sappy about it, then yeah, there's the Orc quest line. It's actually pretty good and creative. If you DON'T do it, he dies by your hand rather happily. If you do the quest line, he is depressed as frick and lets you end his life because he is ashamed of the truth of his heritage.
It's actually a good quest line, but I would be lying if I said that's why I enjoy Oblivion's arena.
it's useless trying to talk sense into obliviontards
>They don't seem to succumb to mindless peer pressure bro
>We'll hate on Oblivion in the next thread, don't you worry!
i literally said it's useless because of how moronic you are. there's nothing anyone can say which hasn't already been said countless times. your chimp brains still don't get it.
I always disliked the Oblivion Arena because it felt like a poor take on the Taris Arena from the first KOTOR. The Mysterious Stranger, Gerlon Two-Fingers, Bentdick Starkiller. There were actual characters, challenge, and a real sense of community there that Oblivion swung for but missed.
I played KOTOR as well and don't remember any arena at all. Must have not left an impression on me.
The game itself is a masterpiece of course, just honestly don't remember any arena in that game.
>There's a lot of gimmick quests which people seem to really like for some reason, like dropping the bear head on the guy or "hiding in a crate" to get onto that pirate ship.
It's called variety and researching your target/surroundings, anon. Everyone who's not a mongloid loves quests with more than 1 approach to it.
Skyrim's quests being shit doesn't make Oblivion's quests good.
Oblivion's quest lines are actually pretty good. Skyrim's are shit though.
Because it was your first open world rpg
morrowindhomosexuals need to gtfo
Kvatch should have been destroyed partway through the game and Sutch should have been a proper city
i would prefer that it would be repaired after a certain number of days
>get warped into efficient leveling
>that combined with waiting for scaled quest rewards start to burn me out of an otherwise comfy playthrough
mages probably dodge all the hassle with +5 gains though right? you don't need STR, END defeats the point of playing a glass cannon and you can buff your speed with spells so you naturally will get large boosts if your majors are mage-related no?
mages are always the best class in TES games. You get to frick around with all the janky mechanics and effects in a positive way instead of suffering through the melee combat.
I have a question
Is it possible to fart in Oblivion? No?
Then it's a fricking garbage game
>Iron Helmet, Orcish Cuirass, Dwemer Boots, Elven Sword
Pick a fricking set, dude.
those might be enchanted pieces.
>Your character looks at nearby corpses
It's a nice touch
Because Your brain after putting It down for a month or so expects good things in the game that "should be there" but aren't. So You get sort of tricked into coming back to Oblivion to expect a new experience that will never happen.
nostalgia and because it's a good game.
Medieval fantasy Atmosphere is comfy
nostalgia and its comfy as frick
I think Oblivion is the perfect combo of the obtuse mechanics from morrowind and the overly refined gameplay of Skyrim. Great music, Great questions, interesting stories throughout the game. It's just very Unique
pure cope. it's just morrowind for morons.
>no its actually le super interesting combination of hardcore and casual mechanics
it's just morrowind for morons.
I think you're coping trying to make yourself seem more intellectual for preferring an older game. No oblivion isn't perfect but it's great. As soon as you play morrowind for one playthrough your mysterious world is gone cause you know where everything is.
>I think you're coping trying to make yourself seem more intellectual for preferring an older game
no, I just hate when people say oblivion is some unique combination of hardcore and casual mechanics, it's just morrowind dumbed down and a lot of the "hardcore" mechanics barely even function how they're supposed to cause of the shit leveling
>As soon as you play morrowind for one playthrough your mysterious world is gone cause you know where everything is
now THATS fricking cope holy shit. even if this was true, there is zero mystery in oblivion's world, so morrowind still rapes it.
Morrowind post 1 playthrough has as much mystery in the world as Oblivion so your point is moot in the long run. What makes Morrowind so "hardcore" because you have to read or use directions? I mean come on I love all the Elder scrolls games but get off the high horse
>Morrowind post 1 playthrough has as much mystery in the world as Oblivion
no it doesn't you brainless fricking idiot. you can't do everything in one playthrough in morrowind.
>What makes Morrowind so "hardcore" because you have to read or use directions? I mean come on I love all the Elder scrolls games but get off the high horse
>what makes the game hardcore? the mechanics that were removed to appeal to wider audiences?
you're a real dumb frick. "hardcore" games are not practically incompletable and only the top .1% of gamers can complete them. they're hardcore because they feature mechanics that normalgays don't like because it requires dedication and an attention span.
Feature mechanics that normal gays don't like? Like what reading?
Your argument is that you're better because you read quests, news flash we've all played and beat Morrowind and people beat it when it came out, you're not special or better than anyone.
>I think Oblivion is the perfect combo of the obtuse mechanics from morrowind and the overly refined gameplay of Skyrim
Yeah, Oblivion really improved on Morrowind when it made it optimal to take no combat talents whatsoever. I really like how all the utility spells were gutted and lockpicking/persuasion were turned into mini-games. It's great how combat is just mashing a button to swing my party balloon around like a crazed moron that just escaped from a mental asylum. Spectacular how the entire world is gutted of anything interesting. Just all around great stuff.
Hold on let me equip my lock pick and hold the button until it opens.
and? that doesn't work unless your skill is high enough or your lockpick is expensive enough. like I said earlier "hardcore" games are not nigh incompletable, they simply feature ideas and mechanics that normalgays don't like for one reason or another (too frustrating, too confusing, too restrictive, too punishing, or whatever gay excuse they like to use.)
So you think equipping a lock pick and clicking on a chest and waiting til its open is more hard core or a more gratifying experience than the mini game they added in oblivion? Come on this is cope just admit it.
Not that guy, but yeah, not being able to open a chest because I'm not skilled enough or equipped properly is better.
yes because it rewards skill investment. it isn't by any means perfect in morrowind but it's a hundred times better than a minigame you can beat at level 1 with 5 security
Oblivion's combat is better than Morrowind. I'd even argue that it is better than Skyrim's.
Oblivion is kino and you will NEVER be a woman
It sucks and im tired of pretending it doesnt
every morrowind quest except for some fighters guild and house hlaalu quests is railroaded like this as well. the biggest difference is that while both of them are railroaded, morrowind's quests are MMO tier fetch quests while oblivion's are soulful and creative
You are literally locked in place and can only say "no" in that quest. At the very least if someone asks you to do something you don't want to in Morrowind you can just ignore them. And there's no "essential" bullshit that keeps you from killing people or selling off story items. Cope all you want kid.
>MMO tier fetch quests while oblivion's are soulful and creative
If you play WoW now its quests are exactly like oblivion's. It's just more window dressing. Morrowind works because the gameplay is in the world, not the quests. It's about the journey and the world being built around it. Things start small and build into something big. Great tales of adventure have always focused on the journey since Homer's Odyssey. What Oblivion delivers is a shallow game that feels like a movie.
actually, I think you ought to see
>She's secretly pissed that she has competition amongst the males now
It's based.
It's hard to find a world as comfy as that one.
Frick me I want to replay. Time to reinstall with a mod that disables level scaling
Does anyone else find the elder scrolls really funny? The whole series. Like yeah, I'm a scrolls fan... I'm an elder scrollser. The name itself is ridiculous. And then all the games are trying to be really serious and epic, while being exclusively populated by mentally stunted homunculus people and over the top voice acting. Like a parody. It's a shitposter's game series. Nobody with a right mind can look at a character like pic related and keep playing for 200hours. The entire thing is an autistic fever dream.
Oblivion plays into this the most but it's still very much present in mw and Skyrim.
>oblivion gays complaining about skyrim
>when their game is unplayable without mods
pathetic
None of the games need mods in order to be played and enjoyed. This is a hyper exaggeration by the internet community.
Skyrim crashes constantly even on new consoles and PC
skyrim never crashed on my switch
If it crashes on PS5 then it crashed on your switch and you're a liar
>ps5
they probably just never tested it because they had no reason to think people were playing games on that system.
>walk up to Vivec
>kill him
>"that's pretty fricked up, but good luck"
>walk up to martin
>kill him
>he falls unconscious and wakes up in a minute
oblivion is cringe af
Oblivion is peak 00's soul
No other game that came out around that time was as ambitious as Oblivion
No other game had the goofy, but novel NPC interactions that Oblivion had
No other game just plopped you down in the middle of a generic medieval fantasy world and told you to go for it like Oblivion, and while that sucked because it didn't fit any of the established lore about Cyrodiil, it was still maximum comfy
No other game to this day has an OST as Souleful as Oblivion
By modern standards it sucks ass but I can appreciate it as a living time capsule from pre-recession America
tl;dr nostalgia lol
Good post and I saved that image.
>Oblivion is peak 00's soul
yeah I loved dorito pope and coked out adam sessler telling me to buy garbage, soulful
I agreed with his post and I never watched that fricking garbage you just mentioned. Sounds like a personal problem.
The mid 2000s are where gaming died you moronic newbie. The Xbox/PS3 generation were the nail in the coffin of video games.
No it wasn't, you fricking zoomer trash. THIS is what marked the beginning of the end. The success of this worthless SJW-lite movie-game.
>2013 is when video games died bro
>has the nerve to call others zoomers
It is you stupid, zoomer. I don't care if you got filtered by Halo 2 multiplayer and COD online. Those were real videogames. The end started with TLOU.
>Those were real videogames
Yes they were. You sucked at them and got filtered, but Halo 2 online multiplayer was one of the best gaming experiences of all time back when it released. You sucked and got filtered and played some garbage anime games like some lonely loser.
>Those were real video games
Your tranime games were garbage and you were a lonely loser. That's why you got filtered by Halo 2 and COD.
>Your tranime games were garbage and you were a lonely loser. That's why you got filtered by Halo 2 and COD.
Cope tranime homosexual. You can put on lipstick, but you can never be a woman.
when im playing the last of us. i am Joel. Ellie isn't some random child. Ellie IS my daughter.
Ok, psycho.
Pic related is when videogames actually died. Todd giveth and Todd taketh away
I have no idea what you're talking about, I was like 9 lmao (26 now) (you are old)
Horse armor is an overblown hype meme. It didn't do anything to gaming.
Todd is literally the horseman of the microtransaction apocalypse
microtransactions (not loot boxes) and DLC packs were never the problem.
>horseman of the microtransaction apocalypse
>00's soul
The 00's were fricking awful and everyone that grew up during them has severe brain damage.
The 00's are when normalgays discovered video games.
This is bait. I refuse to believe I share this board with people born in 1998+ who are already waxing nostalgic about 00s shovelware.
If you were born in 1998 then you were 8 years old when Oblivion came out. I doubt it was very popular with that age group. Most of us were teens, but yeah, maybe you are some old frick 40+ year old bastard. Go have a kid already.
30s, was a teenager when Oblivion came out but I'm still not over here jerking it off like it's a masterpiece. Here's some advice about getting older: resist the urge to regress back to your youth and surround yourself only with old things. It's comforting and familiar but you stop growing as a person because of it. Most people tend not to do this until they're in their 50s or 60s, maybe even their 70s. However the people that start in their 20s are well and truly fricked.
>me playing osrs
thank god it became a troony game so i got out.
>I'm still not over here jerking it off like it's a masterpiece
Are we doing that though? I can appreciate Oblivion for what I liked about it and for introducing me to RPGs while still recognizing that it's kind of garbage. But Ganker seems to think liking something is offensive for some reason
I don't know if you are or not, I'm mainly talking about the dude creaming himself over how he thinks 00s vidya was a golden age of soul.
Is this is a copy pasted response? What does it have to do with anything I said you braindead human ballast?
see:
>Oblivion is peak 00's soul
>By modern standards it sucks ass
I think you genuinely have mental illness and you are here pretending like you are something you aren't in order to cope.
Cope on, friend. Cope on.
>Oblivion is peak 00's soul
You are a delusional zoomer homosexual and need to shut the frick up. Shit was dumbed down trash made for Xbox consoles and introduced pure cancer like questing centered around map markers and paid cosmetic mini-dlc. Literally the opposite of "soul".
We must have different definitions of soul. I think of "soul" as evidence that a game was made by people enthusiastic about what they were doing, regardless of whether or not it turned out well. All 3 of the modern ("modern") Elder Scrolls games give me that impression. That's all there is to it
Imagine complaining about a perfectly fine arena questline that has you fighting in a colosseum and eventually becoming the grand champion. And it's all just a sidequest. Just plain autism.
>it's SUPPOSED to be repetitive and generic!
I like Oblivion. I don't really know why. I know it has flaws. I still have fun. dilate
Jesus christ is this what old school RPG gays felt like when we were waxing poetic about Morrowind seven or eight years ago? Will the same thing happen with Skyrim?
After playing shit like cyberpunk and then going back to skyrim it's really not that bad. Shit Elder scrolls as a whole series turned out alot better than Fallout did.
>Elder scrolls as a whole series turned out alot better than Fallout did
I cope with this by telling myself Todd never actually cared about Fallout. My only evidence is that Fallout 4 gives off the impression that nobody who worked on it actually gave a shit
For me, its Arborwatch
Never figured out why nobody did immersive interiors for skyrim
There is nothing that Oblivion does better than Morrowind, quests included.
idk, dude. radiant ai and npc schedules are pretty dope.
Radiant AI is pure shit but schedules themselves are fine for the most part
That's a fair argument but radiant AI was bad in oblivion and was not successful until Skyrim, so it doesn't apply in this case.
This. Morrowind with NPC schedules would be like 10x more soulful. I played Morrowind well after Oblivion and Skyrim and while I enjoyed it I always felt like I was walking into a ghost town when I went to Balmora and nobody was in the streets
>Morrowind with NPC schedules would be like 10x more soulful
Why not mod it in and see how little of a difference it makes for yourself? This has existed for a long time.
absolute, pure refined zoomerism.
I cannot express in words how disappointing Oblivion was at launch, after all the promises made in previews.
>ctrl f morrowind
>91 results
And that's how I know if this thread is worth reading or not. Goodbye discordgays
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE ELDER SCROLLS GAMES TO EACH OTHER
>ctrl f morrowind
>92 results
at least get it right, moron.
How did he get away with it?
Can any anon hook me up with a good mod list for a first non-vanilla playthrough?
There are no Oblivion mods that make it not shit.
Just play Morrowind or Skyrim.
It's important to play games and make decisions for yourself.
The unofficial patch is neccessary. Oblivion doesn't work without it. More than half the quests have soft locks and there are random objects floating everywhere because they used procedural generation and speedtree to build the map. Obviously don't install anything that wildly changes the game or you will not understand the game for what it is. If you want to add additional mods to fit your preference this is something you need to decide after experiencing the game firsthand anyways.
Remember when Bethesda banned people in Fallout 76 for cheating then made them write an essay as to why cheating is bad to get their account back?
Bad taste. Stockholm syndrome. More bad taste.
cuz ur gay af no cap
Oblivion was never made for Black folk like you. Part of its beauty really.
Masochism? The RPG elements are garbage and hard to enjoy. I’d rather just listen to the OST.
Because unlike Skyrim and Morrowind it's fun.