Why does no one ever bring up how immersion in video games has taken a nosedive in the last ~15 years
Games no longer feel like portals to other people's personal experiences, locales, ideas, etc but just another venue to the common internet ideas, styles, writing, references, derivations
And it's not nostalgia since some games do manage to capture that immersive feel, they're just 1000x less common
 Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
 Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68 |
Thalidomide Vintage Ad Shirt $22.14 |
For me, it's how games can cost $180,000,000 to make and take 5 years to come out and yet I can still clip through grass and foliage on most PS5 games.
I just accepted clipping is an unavoidable part of life
games are being made by people who have done nothing with their life but play games
this is why Shigeru Miyamoto has tried to hire people who have hobbies besides just vidya, since he wants new experiences to be made, not just what has came before
Hayao Miyazaki has also spoke about this in regards to anime, saying that it's full of crap because the people making it don't observe life, they're just internet obsessed homosexuals
Zelda was made by childhood experiences in the woods, and a game like Tunic was made by childhood experiences playing Zelda
Why did you have to post this anon? I didn't want to feel sadder today. As far as I'm concerned, thread over. Here's your answer. Corpo greed AAA mainstream and normies honorable mention.
it's not all over Anon, some indies still have a soul
I thought Northern Journey was particularly good, felt like diving into the imagination of the creator
BABBDI is cool too
>games are being made by people who have done nothing with their life but play games
so i shouldn't attempt being a game dev? never learned music art writing etc. just played vidya
yeah you're right anon, i shouldn't... ai is coming i guess
This post doesn't bring me joy but I can't refute it's content
You didn't play Tunic but the rest of this is spot on
Tunic may be a good game but its aesthetic reveals its real nature, as an abstraction of an abstraction rather than an attempt to abstract a personal experience of reality, it's clear the game is derived from existing games. A trendy low effort style instead of a unique personal artistic expression is exactly the sort of thing OP is talking about.
I found it plenty immersive but then again I actually played and finished it lol
This, the environments have enough non-flat color textures/well done lighting, that makes the world fairly immersive. I won't argue with
about the abstraction of an abstraction aspect though. It has enough meta things (not in a specifically negative way) in there that makes that clear.
Why is it not a problem with literature references other literature like it has for literal thousands of years. I get that you do need to bring your own experiences into the picture to make compelling art but this argument has always felt a bit reductive to me
Did you not notice that he's a drooling moron only referencing ultra accessible casual games, all of which are extremely derivitive of other games?
Spyro is a legitimately terrible game.
I noticed anime/manga quality has taken a massive nosedive in the last few years to a decade+. Like I know there's always crap but damn near everything is so blatantly uninspired and clearly derivative of other manga/anime. The writers and artists clearly don't take much inspiration from outside sources and are terminally online on Twitter looking at other shitty creators
>I noticed anime/manga quality has taken a massive nosedive in the last few years to a decade+. Like I know there's always crap but damn near everything is so blatantly uninspired and clearly derivative of other manga/anime. The writers and artists clearly don't take much inspiration from outside sources and are terminally online on Twitter looking at other shitty creators
manga always goes through trends, you can observe this by looking through the trash manga of yesteryear. this isn't new, 90% of most anything is garbage. Isekai is super garbage though, so it is worse than it ever has been.
You may be right but some modern games are immersive as frick.
RDR2 felt like a portal to its time period.
The attention to detail it has is literally unparalleled.
I got yanked out of that time portal every time the early 20th century criminals demonstrated modern day Californian values and beliefs
I agree, I just play old games and fanmade stuff.
What game is this?
Tech Romancer
The size, scope, and scale of the modern games have destroyed any sense of a creator's loving touch, save the rare indie titles that have a strong vision and technical background.
Normally I'd say immersion is a shitty meme buzzword, but it sounds like you're actually just asking for games that are creative and interesting, which I can't say I disagree with.
People bought into the gayI meme when all that does is make the MOST GENERIC slop, not creative work that stands out. It's kind of telling when the anime industry is trying to use algorithms to artificially add noise and width variation to linework after they destroyed the practice transitioning from analog to digital.
Also psychopath producers who relate more to cats and dogs and machines than computers.
Good games are made for enthusiasts. You don't know they exist because you're a vapid moron with a passing interest in games that never got good at anything.
wait are you saying OP doesnt like any good games because he has no interests outside of them, it's hard to tell if anyone is ever on the cusp of making a good point here
devs no longer play games
game reviewers no longer play games
go play VR games, thats where all the soul is right now