Forza horison stradles the line between sim and arcarde with more realistic, but bland level design and NFS is still pretty arcady, but have more interesting level design and more focus on customization and the wow factor. Still pretty solid though.
Music in both is abysmal so rev up that burnout/underground/GT3 playlist.
pimp my ride is the biggest example of a show being "in hindsight, that was terrible"
heard almost all the cars never even been improved and in someway got fricked even more.
The cars usually have debilitating mechanical issues and I'm surprised I never noticed that they're never shown fixing the actual problems. I guess all the flash is distracting.
Car enthusiasm has been dieing since the 2000s. It peaked when young people could drive reasonably priced 80s and 90s cars that could be modded yourself. Now those days are long over and cars have been cucked for over two decades now
Fast and Furious moved away from street culture and started becoming about heists and saving the world
also Gas powered cars are now being looked down upon by normies
F1 has gone hybrid and does whatever it can to limit fuel use. There's even talks about going all electric.
Thank god for formula E having exclusivity on the concept until 2038.
in no way does any part of the 350 look better than the 370, from the interior, to the flat sides vs the haunches, to the faux diffuser, to the rear wing, EVERY inch of the 370 is improved over the 350 aestetically. The 350Z is based on an early 2000's bargain CD player you'd find at the goodwill. the 370 is based on stingray.
Its all legislation.
Between USDOT banning things like flip up lights, EPA guidlines on emissions, and the NTHSA having stricter safety ratings coupled with CAFE laws dictating MPG based on a tiered scale per a cars wheelbase, you get what we have now.
Its a razor thin tightrope car companies are dealing with nowadays
So it goes llike this
The bigger your cars wheelbase, the less MPG it has to get, the less emission restrictions you have.
These CAFE laws were put in way back in like 2007
Sliding scale that gets more restrictive every year, coupled with stricter safety testing.
Its all a domino effect
Car companies had a few options >make car larger, make more efficient engines, make car more aerodynamic
Rinse and repeat
At a certain point you hit a wall.
An engine can only be so efficient and emission friendly while powerful enough to move a car, a body can only be so aerodynamic, a car can only get so large
Physics are physics, aerodynamics are aerodynamics.
All cars are shaped the same, with similar size engines, with similar footprints for its class for a reason.
They have to be.
They are putting pathetic 3 cylinder turbo engines with CVT transmissions in compact SUVs with automatic engine start/stop features, not because they want to, but because they HAVE to.
Those huge ultra light alloy rims are for weight savings, not looks. The automatic breaking system is mandated by the government by 2024, not just a cool perk.
The emergence of electric cars isnt because automakers WANT to.
Hybrids dont exist because automakers WANT them.
And its not even because BUYERS want them.
But 4-5 years ago is when things got real bad and car companies started with heavy compromises to new cars.
Electric and Hybrids are going to take over the road a LOT quicker than people realize, because they have pretty much made things so strict there isnt much of a choice.
With that said, its nice driving a car youll survive in a wreck so its not all bad
no, i mean beaners, dune coons, pavement apes and worst of all: Wiggers. Nips had their own street racing games, and you had to be good at driving to play them. There was no loud horn on your escalade that pushed traffic out of the way in Midtown madness 5 for Black folk, you had to get fricking good.
Meanwhile F1 is as popular as ever.
F1 is the absolute bottom dregs of motorsport because it's the epitome of what makes europe shit. You can meet all the nice, friendly people, see all the lovely sights, experience all the neckbeard-drool-inducing "cvltvre" from your gay little wop tourist traps, but at the end of the day you have to let 17 somolais run a train on your 3 year old daughter because some cuck homosexual in pariment made the "sexual emergency for refugees" bill which passed 100-1. Fricking ANYTHING cool, good, innovative, or would contribute to anything other than that silver spoon coon Scammilton getting away with cutting a corner tighter than his hairline is cutting to the back of his fricking neck.
yep, Wangan midnight max tune 6, and initial D the arcade. Yes i know it's the whatever'th arcade game, their stupid asses named it "the arcade" because the japanese can be morons.
Any Street Racing game nowadays don't truly embrace the core DNA of these games, which I believe to be unrivaled customization/tuning and unchained speed which fits the entire culture of street racing. Everyone is trying to outflash and outrace each other to be the top dog. NFS Heat had a nice groundwork of that feeling, but I don't think they fully committed to it, they could have pushed it just a bit more. Still a great game.
Street racing used to embody rebellion against social norms. What's that, Susan? You just want to take your family to dinner without being broadsided by a neon-green Eclipse with bolt-on fenders? Well BRABRABRABRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hahaha, take that you old b***h, you've never had fun in your life! Call the cops, let's see if we can outrun them!
Now it's zoomed out to the meta scale, where car culture itself is the target of a generation's rebellious phase. It helps a lot that zoomers live virtualized lives where things like school, work, even shopping and eating restarant food can be accomplished without leaving the house, and they're generally correct that owning a vehicle IS an undersirable financial burden that would stress their entry-level pay.
...that said, 99 times out of 100, when someone is openly hostile to car culture and acts like they're one of a chosen few who sees through some massive conspiracy, they're also a massive homosexual using reddit talking points to post-hoc justify wiping their ass with something boomers liked.
Fast and Furious over saturated the market and when it started going off the rails the games didnt follow because a lot of it involved not driving cars.
zoomers
this
zoomers dont have licenses or know how to drive
or if they do they hate car culture
you are painfully ignorant.
Forza Horizon took it over and the novelty of tuner culture wore off.
NFS Payback and Heat wasnt bad though.
Which modern games are worth playing regarding tuner and street racing aspect?
Only really forza horison and NFS heat/payback.
Forza horison stradles the line between sim and arcarde with more realistic, but bland level design and NFS is still pretty arcady, but have more interesting level design and more focus on customization and the wow factor. Still pretty solid though.
Music in both is abysmal so rev up that burnout/underground/GT3 playlist.
too much soul for the 2010s and onwards
Young people can't afford to buy cars, let alone the consequences of racing them in the streets.
You just had to be there.
damn i wish i was cool
well it was only popular because of fast and furious movies and last time I checked they drive cars to space now or some shit
Pimp my Ride was a thing too and Fast and Furious was not as successful as later on.
pimp my ride is the biggest example of a show being "in hindsight, that was terrible"
heard almost all the cars never even been improved and in someway got fricked even more.
It was just for show, most of the cars could barely even move after getting 20 tv screens installed on them
The cars usually have debilitating mechanical issues and I'm surprised I never noticed that they're never shown fixing the actual problems. I guess all the flash is distracting.
I think the tuning and car culture died in general, zoomers nowdays really don't care about cars
Car enthusiasm has been dieing since the 2000s. It peaked when young people could drive reasonably priced 80s and 90s cars that could be modded yourself. Now those days are long over and cars have been cucked for over two decades now
It was a fad with the fast and furious era, I kind of miss fads like that and how games followed them.
2008 financial crisis, And by the time it was over, people had moved on to cheaper hobbies.
Pretty much this. Car building was dirt cheap in the 00s
this
it killed everything good about the 00's
unironically been downhill ever since
i feel like we've been on borrowed time since this event
Kids prefer building computers now.
well to be fair building a car is very expensive
have you tried to trick out modern cars? Fantasy is sometimes directly impacted by reality
Fast and Furious moved away from street culture and started becoming about heists and saving the world
also Gas powered cars are now being looked down upon by normies
Meanwhile F1 is as popular as ever.
F1 has gone hybrid and does whatever it can to limit fuel use. There's even talks about going all electric.
Thank god for formula E having exclusivity on the concept until 2038.
post your carfu, for me? it's the mitsubishi lancer evo
mah lancer homie
For me its this sexy frick
Because the compact japanese sedan market died
It followed Fast and Furious.
Car design died.
I cant think of a single relevant sports car post 2010 that doesnt look like a rejected logitech gaming mouse.
They're all just hideous and anonymous.
Has there been a single car in the last decade worth mentioning in terms of looks?
370z
integra
i drive a 370z. Nobody likes 370zs except for me.
370 is a 350 with worse aesthetics.
in no way does any part of the 350 look better than the 370, from the interior, to the flat sides vs the haunches, to the faux diffuser, to the rear wing, EVERY inch of the 370 is improved over the 350 aestetically. The 350Z is based on an early 2000's bargain CD player you'd find at the goodwill. the 370 is based on stingray.
370 has a weird grill, worse proportions and those shitty pointy blob style lights that every 2010's Nissan and Toyota had.
Fiata.
Its all legislation.
Between USDOT banning things like flip up lights, EPA guidlines on emissions, and the NTHSA having stricter safety ratings coupled with CAFE laws dictating MPG based on a tiered scale per a cars wheelbase, you get what we have now.
Its a razor thin tightrope car companies are dealing with nowadays
So it goes llike this
The bigger your cars wheelbase, the less MPG it has to get, the less emission restrictions you have.
These CAFE laws were put in way back in like 2007
Sliding scale that gets more restrictive every year, coupled with stricter safety testing.
Its all a domino effect
Car companies had a few options
>make car larger, make more efficient engines, make car more aerodynamic
Rinse and repeat
At a certain point you hit a wall.
An engine can only be so efficient and emission friendly while powerful enough to move a car, a body can only be so aerodynamic, a car can only get so large
Physics are physics, aerodynamics are aerodynamics.
All cars are shaped the same, with similar size engines, with similar footprints for its class for a reason.
They have to be.
They are putting pathetic 3 cylinder turbo engines with CVT transmissions in compact SUVs with automatic engine start/stop features, not because they want to, but because they HAVE to.
Those huge ultra light alloy rims are for weight savings, not looks. The automatic breaking system is mandated by the government by 2024, not just a cool perk.
The emergence of electric cars isnt because automakers WANT to.
Hybrids dont exist because automakers WANT them.
And its not even because BUYERS want them.
But 4-5 years ago is when things got real bad and car companies started with heavy compromises to new cars.
Electric and Hybrids are going to take over the road a LOT quicker than people realize, because they have pretty much made things so strict there isnt much of a choice.
With that said, its nice driving a car youll survive in a wreck so its not all bad
It's just as nice driving a car that you won't survive in a wreck. It's the wrecking that isn't nice.
Tl;dr it's fine until it's not.
Motorcycles are the new fad.
>Short sighted Namco execs proceed to kill off your game by placing an unrelated franchise in the name because a new IP "wouldn't sell well"
>the unrelated franchise is also killed in the process
YEAH I'M STILL FRICKING MAD.
>Why did catering to brown people die?
good riddance.
>brown people
You mean the nips? Who traditionally buy video games?
no, i mean beaners, dune coons, pavement apes and worst of all: Wiggers. Nips had their own street racing games, and you had to be good at driving to play them. There was no loud horn on your escalade that pushed traffic out of the way in Midtown madness 5 for Black folk, you had to get fricking good.
F1 is the absolute bottom dregs of motorsport because it's the epitome of what makes europe shit. You can meet all the nice, friendly people, see all the lovely sights, experience all the neckbeard-drool-inducing "cvltvre" from your gay little wop tourist traps, but at the end of the day you have to let 17 somolais run a train on your 3 year old daughter because some cuck homosexual in pariment made the "sexual emergency for refugees" bill which passed 100-1. Fricking ANYTHING cool, good, innovative, or would contribute to anything other than that silver spoon coon Scammilton getting away with cutting a corner tighter than his hairline is cutting to the back of his fricking neck.
>implying japs don't street race
you are a zoomer moron who was raised by /misc/
Not anymore they dont, they cracked down hard in like 2010
>Random /misc/tard spergout completely unrelated to F1
jews
I don't think it has anything to do with culture. People like seeing things in games they don't in real life so it would be a good time if anything.
gas car bad, they want electrics or trains
The market right now is full of kids and grown adults who are afraid of risk. They lack testosterone, so they avoid scary hobbies like speed racing.
Lack of fathers who taught zoomers how to use and fix a car.
Tuner/ricer culture died off because of the recession in the late 2000s made it too expensive for most people to participate.
Toyota killed it by not allowing their cars to be part of street racing games.
>Still appeared in initial D and wangan midnight
Not allowing their cars to be part of SHIT ea racing games*
new games? lmao based
yep, Wangan midnight max tune 6, and initial D the arcade. Yes i know it's the whatever'th arcade game, their stupid asses named it "the arcade" because the japanese can be morons.
Wangan Midnight has Toyota cars since the first one though
and they added Toyota GR Supra for 6R
>Why the street racing genre died?
It was too degenerate and tied to the era of the early Internet, alternative rock and everything else that was in the 00s and we don’t have it now.
Rallycross has its own aesthetic and culture, not ricing
Rallycross is rally for people with ADHD
Any Street Racing game nowadays don't truly embrace the core DNA of these games, which I believe to be unrivaled customization/tuning and unchained speed which fits the entire culture of street racing. Everyone is trying to outflash and outrace each other to be the top dog. NFS Heat had a nice groundwork of that feeling, but I don't think they fully committed to it, they could have pushed it just a bit more. Still a great game.
Street racing used to embody rebellion against social norms. What's that, Susan? You just want to take your family to dinner without being broadsided by a neon-green Eclipse with bolt-on fenders? Well BRABRABRABRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hahaha, take that you old b***h, you've never had fun in your life! Call the cops, let's see if we can outrun them!
Now it's zoomed out to the meta scale, where car culture itself is the target of a generation's rebellious phase. It helps a lot that zoomers live virtualized lives where things like school, work, even shopping and eating restarant food can be accomplished without leaving the house, and they're generally correct that owning a vehicle IS an undersirable financial burden that would stress their entry-level pay.
...that said, 99 times out of 100, when someone is openly hostile to car culture and acts like they're one of a chosen few who sees through some massive conspiracy, they're also a massive homosexual using reddit talking points to post-hoc justify wiping their ass with something boomers liked.
Tuning is such a pain in the ass. I just want to race. Less customization the better.
It's not dead in the arcade scene
Wow so hard to buy a used 1990s-2000s car and install one of the dozen easy mode kits
It is when all the good ones cost more than a Ferrari these days.
Fast and Furious over saturated the market and when it started going off the rails the games didnt follow because a lot of it involved not driving cars.
>tfw will never be a japanese 20 something during the bubble era, being able to afford a somewhat decent sport car with my first salary