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No, I like DMing.
>Satine Phoenix
I would hire her to suck my dick on camera.
I would not hire her to run my game.
What's her main malfunction?
Woah, what is that person's problem with her??
That's all she has.
Satine and her husband turned out to be psychos. Who could have foreseen such a thing.
Nothing wrong with asking freelancers to go above and beyond. I have a farm of copywriter monkeys i pay $1 for 300 words.
>be mean to interns
>be a dick to a tattoo artist
>now you're a psycho, evil, cancelled, jobless, shunned
You can tell nobody in the "D and D community" ever worked retail or service industry before, bunch of sheltered pussies,I'd feel bad for her but she's a piss prostitute and anyone saying her involvement witgh the abusive, female exploiting porn industry isn't part of why she's a c**t is fricking stupid.
>You can tell nobody in the "D and D community" ever worked retail or service industry before
Bitch. We play RPGs to get away from that shit.
Absolutely putrid post anon
Brother, just because I can *endure* something doesn't mean I should endorse it or tolerate it if at all possible. Satine Phoenix being exposed as a raging butthole doesn't make her a criminal, but it's 100% reasonable to decide you don't want to work with her or buy her stuff. Doubly so if she's involved in wage theft, as refusing to work with someone like that is just common sense.
>wage theft
The worst kind of theft. You can tell who makes the laws given that wage theft isn't a felony but regular theft is. "Theft is bad when the employee does it, not the employer!"
The gross prostitute is still more desirable than her
Women get into prostitution because they are pretty and lazy.
Satine was able to escape by stabbing her in the tongue with a giant toothpick and climbing out over her baleen.
>17 parts
>only shows 2
Anon, I
Having just looked at the thread. Those are the only 2 that are worth reading. The rest are mostly links to screen shots, articles, and tagging wizards dnd.
All they say is that she's bad but with no reasoning for why
>17 parts
Twitter was a mistake. People still want blogs, but they are brainwashed to stick on Twitter no matter what.
I absolutely miss blogs and people having their own websites. Now everyone uses these platforms that only encourage quick garbage that basically amounts to nothing which lacks and discourages depth.
>I absolutely miss blogs and people having their own websites.
These are still around, especially in the indie dev / homebrew scene. You just gotta look for them, same as you had to in 2005.
Googling that tweet and anything connected to it opened a new world to me.
I kinda understands the chuds here feeling that the hobby has been taken from them.
It's not true, but it feels "polluted" in a way.
I'm the chudiest chud you'll likely meet here and I don't think the hobby has been taken from me. Polluted, like you said, but they can never stop me from playing tabletop RPGs and wargames with my friends and spending money is entirely optional at least on the RPG side of things. I lose nothing by never spending a single dime on WotC or Paizo and only buying books from promising smaller systems.
This, who the frick gives a single shit about 'the D&D community'? The only community I care about is me and my friends, unlike online games morons in the hobby don't affect my or my friend's enjoyment in any way. What, the new D&D editition sucks? Great, I don't care, I don't have to buy it and even if I wanted to check it out I can just pirate and make my own judgement.
There is no reason to be upset.
Yup, people don't care about the world around them until it spills into their life or they are forced to deal with it. Then they care.
>until it spills into their life
How does someone being moronic on the internet 'spills over' to my group? None of us follow some morons on twitter, I didn't even know anything about the person in the OP prior to this thread, if you have friends who aren't terminaly online this type of shit just doesn't affect you.
>Thats why things are as bad as they are.
So find a new group of friends who don't have twitter? I have been playing D&D for years and I would have never known that 'thing are bad' in the hobby if I didn't encounter someone who gets butthurt about this stuff online. Again, none of my friends give a single frick about any of this, we just sit down and play D&D, the fact that somone decides to be a moron online can really only affect you as much as you allow it to live rent-free in your head.
>As long as I live up in my tower nothing can affect me so that must mean nothing affects you also!
>As long as I live up in my tower nothing can affect me
Again, you're making a conscious choice about letting this affect you. That opr your friends are a bunch of terminaly online morons in which case you should really just get new ones.
What you refer to as 'living up in my tower' is literally just playing with my group of firends. I still fail to see how naything mentioned in this thread affects me or anyone else for that matter.
If it really is as terrible as you say, then how does this impact your D&D sessions?
Nta but following his line of reasoning: it reduces the pool of non-crazy players and adds more nutters to the pool, making it harder to replace players who leave or harder to put together a new group.
Hypothetically, that is. I haven't had to put together a new group for a long while. Last new group I joined was in 2019 and I was invited and they're all reasonable people. And my other group I've been gaming with since 2009.
A) Not all of us are kissless social recluses. In fact, I make it a rule not to play with deranged weridoes because they're bad people, flawed both internally and externally. Admittedly, I don't play with normies either - I play with people who march to the tune of their own band, but can still interact with others.
B) Unfortunately the degradation of the hobby is going to make it harder and harder to keep in the tower you dumb fricking idiot. It happened in movies, comic books, video games, and now tabletop; and you're burying your head in the sand saying "No this won't affect me."
Yes, it will.
what is with you people and your moronic nonsense way of thinking? you bury your head in the sand to everything declaring 'but I'm not affected' and think this is somehow a solution to what's happening?
>dude just make an entirely new friend group lmao
>dude just live in a time capsule oblivious to everything happening to the hobby you're invested in as long it doesn't affect MEEEEE
>oh you are being harassed daily and people are actively flooding your employers with schizo ramblings to get you fired and get you pushed out of company you built up from the ground floor? err just ignore them bro lmao just like get a new job lol *smugface*
your solution is 'yeah there's a problem but don't do anything about it because that just like makes you an angry yucky incel, it's just a fantasy game bro chill lol'. I've already lost because I bothered to engage with you. what a waste of time.
we need a name for those types of people. turtleheads or something
when's the last time you had your dome polished?
last year
>dude SEX lmao
>I hope one day I can land a used pornstar kickstarter scammer!
when did you last have sex bro?? and do tell all the gory details!
Truth right there mate. Well said. I’ve been playing RPGs since 1989. The single biggest difference I see today is lack of player investment. By that I mean my 5E players won’t even read the fricking PHB. I have spare copies. Here read at least your class abilities dude. NOPE! The second aspect to this is flaking. RPGs are just one of many fun entertainment options. If a new movie or vidya comes out I’ve had players skip our weekly game night. It’s very frustrating. My most dedicated players are my fellow grey beards. Because they have to carve time out of their schedule to devote to game night. They never flake and always call well in advance if they can’t make it.
>moronic nonsense way of thinking?
It's a way literally everyone thinks. You're whining on Ganker when you could be donating money to starving kids or helping the homeless or delivering food to the elderly or cleaning up the park. Why don't you care about literally every single thing in the world constantly? Why don't you fix everything? There are labor disputes in China you could be helping with.
False equalivency. I can’t help with labor disputes in China but I can certainly apply my principals in the RPG community even if it’s just my small microcosm of my personal online games that I run, conventions and local game stores that I frequent.
>but I can certainly apply my principals in the RPG community even if it’s just my small microcosm of my personal online games
You just called people insane for saying they only cared about their own group.
>I can't help with China
You skipped right over everything local because you're dishonest.
What the frick even is this post, off yourself my homie.
It'll happen to any community, fandom, culture whatever nowadays. The very people who are cavalier about chuds losing their safe space will or already are in the process of feeling it themselves. I'll spare a long screed but an even more casual culture of roleplay where the barriers of reality and fantasy (already eroded) by 'the critical roll generation' is on the horizon, and you will hear the 'crit roll generation' b***hing about being crowded out by these upstarts in the next few years. I've already heard premonitions of this albeit in an area tangentially related to proper D&D RP. You will have this pseudo-isekaiization (sans truck kun) completely get rid of a divide of IC and OOC and people will simply play themselves as the characters without much of any interest in high-faluting story.
I'd think like any bubbles be it crypto or vtubers or whatever the success of it attracts the mongolian horde of moths to a flame that is grifters, sycophants, schemers and con artists who want a piece of the action.
It's also Californians.
>bitching about the barriers of reality and fantasy
You want to blame anyone on that, blame religion, not modern shit, mlady.
>not modern shit
And yet it's in our modern, secular world that this barrier between reality and fantasy is thinner than ever; men, for example, believing they can be women by chopping off their penises and wearing dresses. The "archaic" religious mind didn't suffer from these delusions.
>it must be a racist white supremacist incel chud if you dare have any criticism of this moron bullshit
…Well I’m black and I still think these people should be shot out of a cannon into the sun
Chuds don't play, so their anger is the most pointless thing imaginable - not only they are triggered by literal who doing literally what, but about stuff that doesn't even concern them. Or anyone, really. It's the epitome of fake drama, stirred by people who have no reason to be into that drama in the first place.
GG was the biggest mistake that ever happened, for it opened the spigot of morons getting angry about moronic shit
"Repulsive cow revels in opportunity to slag woman who capitalized on her sexual value."
what a repulsive bitter bawd
>the whale is a marine biologist
pottery.
>N-no you don't understand... the whale song... it's coming... from INSIDE the boat!
What a horrid b***h. Yeah you can stay in D&D while you doing moronic shit to try and outdo each other on the stupid scale.
>17 parts
>dozens of Twitter links
>livestream apology
>discord messages
>blog posts
NO way Im reading all that shit. Someone spoonfeed and summarize it for me.
gays are like Bolsheviks, they take a grievance and then pile onto a person until he / she / they either apologizes or gets banned and then they install someone from their clique to fill its place.
This. I am surprised at the amount of people who just give up and resign because of baseless accusations. Then when the new group gets power they are horrible people doing a horrible job and refuse to resign no matter what where the only way to remove them is through a force of action.
Warren Ellis admitted mass grooming of 30-something women he never met in person because a jaded moderator of his homosexual forum sicced them on him and started a slander website.
Source?
Look on YouTube the work of James Lindsay. You have no idea how right you actually are.
>Give me views, please!
No
>"Sex work is real work!"
>Bosses still getting in trouble for asking their employees for sexual favors
MAKE up your MINDS, LIBTARDS!
>nothing about her makes her a bad person...but she's a bad person!
No no. It's just a vague tweet.
> she's not a bad person because she's a prostitute and I won't stand for racism, she's a bad person because she's a conman and a thief.
Absolutely deranged landwhale.
Don't. test. me.
Landwhale nonwithstanding, Satine and her husband were discovered being egotistical, exploitative fricks that acted like entitled A-listers at various organizations. They also make the most absolute shitty content and will market that whenever they get a chance (regardless of an appropriate setting). Don't hate the hustle, but neither she or Justin Storm or whatever her husband's name is seem to act with any degree of tact and the hobby is still a very small world.
Frick Paige Leitman--that b***h banned me from the 5e facebook group.
Absolutely disgusting and sad to see that so many posters on /tg/ would defend the prostitute in the OP just because someone unattractive said an attractive person is a bad person and doesn't belong to the hobby.
What if I don’t like either? The prostitute obviously doesn’t care about the hobby and doesn’t belong. But the landwhale just seems like a gossiping shit stirrer.
>I don't care about the contents in this debate about the commodification of gamemastering, nor do I care about the character of the woman in the OP, but I want to frick her so I will white knight for her
She won't frick you, despite being a former prostitute.
I wouldn't frick her with your dick, but the fatty still needs to shut up.
Literally one of the posts you’re replying to says they don’t like either of these b***hes. How in the frick is that being a white knight, moron?
prostitutes are way better than angry fat chicks. Who set that lardass up to be the hall monitor of D and D? Tired of obese ugly women thinking their opinion matters.
I would never trust a fatty
>SJWs devouring their own
>y-y-y-you have to choose a side!
No.
I am just enjoying the catfight between a hamplanet and a filthy prostitute.
OP thumbnail lady isn't even particularly good looking, but I still can't help but laugh when ugly fatties get jealous of other women.
No because I play RPGs to have fun with my friends and inviting some complete stranger to DM would be probably be awkward as frick, even if he was the best DM in the world.
based, would do the same
Pretty much what said.
I only play with friends, and I don't have any friends that do paid DM'ing, so no.
I'd probs frick both her and her husband
yes, DM'ing can become a job like everything else: playing and having fun _can_ be done during your workdays: try to have a good job that you love instead of being a wagecuk just sayin
based bichad
I hate tattoos, I hate dyed hair, I hate attention-seeking prostitutes, and I hate the b***h men who allow this behavior to exist. I don't care if this guy is muscular, he's a b***h.
Her husband is a cuckqueer for "allowing" his prostitute to go out and frick and suck and be a c**t. nothing about him to respect and only simp incels think female opinions are important or matter so I wouldnt give a frick about her prostitute opinions one bit. both are irredemable garbage and both can frick off out of the industry. anyone that drags things down needs to go or causes the rpg industry to become more woke or anything facist is a no go. and to the simp incels that will defend her cuz wahmen... respect is earned and a prostitute can earn no respect
>pic
absolute boner-killer
I kinda feel bad for people who don't have the "fun hair" thing out of their system by college graduation, much less fricking 42 years old.
tbh yes if I had enough money to lose and friends to run 1 or 2 sessions. only IRL sessions, no way that I would pay for an online game lol
a whole campaign that I didn't designed myself? nah
>never heard of her
>google
>satine_phoenix_gets_off_while_being_soaked_in_pee (12min) [1080p] is first result
based pissbawd dm
It always amazes me how there’s gays on this site completely obsessed with other irrelevant motherfrickers. I wouldn’t even know who this rusty hoe even is if it weren’t for this thread.
Who?
>Satine Phoenix
Again, who?
she should have wikipedia article if you really care to find out
Yes if they can bring along good players.
Paying entire group of people to just hang out with you is literally the lowest of low
I wouldn't hire a DM. I wouldn't look for a DM to do it for free. I wouldn't even DM, myself. D&D is a trash game.
I'm one of those people that call any D20 ttrpg or D&D clone/adjunct primary storyteller a DM. Which includes PF, GURPS, Modern, M&M, CoC, etc. I reserve the title GM for games like Paranoia which are not an attempt to remake DnD nor run a D20 variant.
GURPS isn't a d20 ttrpg nor is it a D&D clone.
You obviously only play dnd.
>CoC
>D20
Just picked up your first dice set I see.
No, but I honestly wish you all the best finding someone who will, OP.
I'm against the concept of paid DMs and not very fond of online games in part because they enable this kindof shit to grow
No. I am the DM.
I'd hire Satine Phoenix as long as she run her game as an erotically charged sexventure.
Who the frick is this, and why does /tg/ have its panties in a twist over her?
Ex porn star turned dnd e-celebrity and people are mad because she gets a lot of traction due to her previous job experience.
>Another roastie who gets into D&D because its popular and for nerd cred
of course
Both ugly chicks and roasties, on average, suck at D&D. Only one is a positive externality to look at.
If you believe that a chewed up porn actress is a positive externality, you should consider re-evaluating what you consider attractive.
t.
The fat b***h in OP is actually saying there's nothing wrong with being a hoor.
eye of the beholder I guess
Looking at her all I see is a mix of twitter brain and general trashiness
>people are mad because she gets a lot of traction due to her previous job experience.
no it's cause she just got in a massive controversy about stealing money from kickstarters she ran to go on vacation, not paying artists (including her tattoo artist), publicly harassing people asking to be paid, etc.
I would much rather watch Mercer give Dick than Satine take it.
He's not my type, but he is a pretty handsome charming dude.
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this, but...
ur a total gay and need to get your bussy ready for Mercer's 8=========D~~~~~
None of these people have anything to do with D&D as far as I'm concerned they are bandwagon trend followers.
dnd is probably the gaygiest form of media, even more than capeshit.
I wonder if she and her husband worked with CR on their kickstarter to Amazon bait and switch scheme, or it's just that the RP streaming world is nothing but scumbags.
Serious BPD art hoe vibes. Like the girl who hugs the bouncer when you show up at the bar and when you start dating her this swarm of exes and "guy friends" starts gunning for you.
She looks like a hooker version of Aubrey Plaza, it's wonderful
Why do girls ever get that ugly short bangs hair cut?
Shit THATS who I was thinking of.
Loved her on Parks and Rec.
I guess her career is killed though? Haven't heard from her in ages it seems
>or it's just that the RP streaming world is nothing but scumbags
It's this. Cynical people who lie and manipulate to monetize hobbies that people do for free and for fun are ALWAYS bad people. They're just making money off the fact that computers are making people lonelier and less socially competent.
Litteral diversity hire grifter
thirsty nerds with disposable income be thirsty
I feel bad for the guy. He looks like someone who might have been able to do better.
He didn't.
She did porn the fairly fricked up kind like eating her puke and some cum out of a dog dish. Then her and her husband were buttholes to people. B Dave Walters said she was a c**t before he ate some cornbread and had sex with a fat white woman
/tg/ doesn't.
moron tourists and summer kids do.
sure, outsourcing the catering for your events is becoming increasingly popular, though obviously you need to take someone with good references
No
I'd pay $10 to see you an hero on camera.
It's always a joy seeing Ganker Anons (especially fa/tg/uys) desperatly clinging to the Moral High Ground
like, homies, c'mon, a bit of introspection, just a tad
>desperatly clinging to the Moral High Ground
Who said we are trying to be moral?
Anon, killing globalists is ALWAYS a moral good.
Moral high ground? My dude, I want her and many other people dead. Morals are invented by the people in power to keep people like us cowed.
idgaf about moral high grounds, i just think it's obvious ex-porn starrs are going to be shitty people, because they come from a shitty industry that degrades women and promotes drug abuse. These woke pricks like to virtue signal about "sex work is real work" and try to destigmatize being a prostitute. Being a prostitute is fricking dirty. You become a disease vector. You support human trafficking and drug use, these are all legal and public health issues, morality notwithstanding. It's in her case literally letting people use her body as a toilet. It's degrading and also dangerous because then this b***h gets promoted by a company that makes games and toys and becomes some kind of role model.
So yes, pointing out the dirty prostitute being a c**t is probably directly related to her dirty prostitute background is fair game. i don't have to be a paragon of vitue, just not be a piss drinking fricking prostitute.
So is the hypocrisy of this post supposed to be a joke, or what?
There was a group that would meet in my flgs each saturday and just be a massive loud annoyance. Then their dm talked about how other dm's get paid and which initiated a rather awkward conversation among the group. That was the last week we ever saw them, fricking lel
Ironically, an industry where they hire a bunch of wetbacks to gangbang you and piss in your mouth is proving to be more humane than gay-infused DnD.
Where can I watch this fine movie?
She never changed her public name after she left porn. So just go find Satine Phoenix films.
how much are you willing to pay me?
I have begun thinking about doing it, because the thought of pleying side-by-side with all my friends without any of us needing to GM seems cool.
The only thing I know about Satine Phoenix is that she was the only person in the Eye of the Beholder documentary about the history of DND art who said the classic cheesecake art was fine and good. That already puts her a step ahead of a lot of the other modern internet types.
Why would I want to write a story and know every single twist and turn only to have it run by someone else who will inevitably not run it to my vision?
I think RPG experiences and money don't mix well, kinda like sex and money.
The closest I think one can get to a healthy paid DM experience is something like a drop-in D&D night where there's a cover charge and DMs get a cut.
I wanna get paid for DMing but because I love to make art for the party, bosses and even some really basic animation to set up scenes and situations.
The money paid would mostly cover those hours rather than the act of DMing itself.
Why would you actually charge money for running a game? I mean aside abusing idiots giving it to you, that is.
Because, as said, I like to go a little extra, draw illustrations for NPCs, specially bosses with music to go along with it, sometimes scenes or a little animation. But that takes a lot of time, there's no trick or improvisation, vould end up working 4 to 8 hours for something that will show up one session. Currently I do that for my friends campaigns which is fine but it eats up a lot of time while I still juggle two different jobs.
So I'd like to get paid as a DM so I get to exploit that desire of crafting a campaign with many drawings without sacrificing as much of my free time as I already do.
It's more avoiding feeling guilty/wasting too much time than trying to milk tons of money.
Not in particular. I can find people I don't have to pay who enjoy the kinds of games that I do just fine, otherwise I am the GM. Regardless though, I have my own group already, which meets multiple times a week for a variety of games under different GMs.
Honestly I might, if whatever they wanted to run was interesting enough and I'd had the chance to review their prep work and test their responses, attention sharing and improvisational skills. If they really are exemplary, then that'd be worth it.
I wouldn't hire an ex-porn actress or an attractive woman, because I have a hard enough time not pining for women who are even so much as polite with me.
She is an obnoxious player, a bad DM, and she somehow snuck her way into G&S at the right time to rub shoulders with the CR crew and now is some ambassador for DnD. She's a weird-looking former prostitute who is, unsurprisingly, a piece of shit to boot. Who would've thunk-it?
I wouldn't even want her on my property, much less running a game I was in.
>former prostitute
She can still be a ho, a ratchet, a bawd, or whatever you want to call it. But she is not getting paid to get fricked anymore, that is very clear, she's getting her money fricking other some other way now.
Yeah well you can't roll back a feat.
I would hire a DM, with the following understood:
- I don't game online. D&D is to be played at a table in person.
- I likely wouldn't hire a woman. I've had one good female DM in 40+ years of gaming. A bubbly college girl in the mid 1980's, she was spectacular.
- I would need to really believe they were not only a solid DM, but enjoyed DMing and would deliver the sorts of games we'd want.
I knew a husband and wife couple who were co-GMs, they were some of the best GM's I ever had. But obviously, that is a co-GM situation.
I'm not opposed to that notion either. I would pay Co-DM's. Our longest campaign of about a decade, was very evenly split between two DM's who also ran characters as players. One of the DM's was funny and did mostly urban stuff, the other was rather serious and did mostly wilderness, it worked out perfectly.
NTA but I am about to embark on a co-DM situation and I hope it turns out as successful as this. We’ve been gaming together for about 10 years so I have faith.
Would you hire someone to play tag with you?
Would you hire someone to be the monopoly banker?
Would you hire someone to come to your house and be player 2 in lego star wars?
The idea of paying someone to DM a D&D campaign is fricking absurd. D&D is a social game for friends and acquaintances to play together. I know the DM has to do more work than the others, but that doesn't make it a job, it's still just a game, an asymmetrical one. The DMs infinite power and control over the adventure is their payoff for putting in more work. Hiring a DM is the tabletop game equivalent to buying a hooker.
I mean, she literally has sex for money so...
I have no idea who this specific prostitute is, I was answering the actual thread question, figuring the pic, as always, is sex bait for my attention.
It's literally someone who has sex for money on camera that is apparently the de facto "ambassador of table top gaming" in normalBlack person and critical role type communites.
No. I dont want crass commercialism encroaching further into my social life. Hired DMs are essentially rented friends. Theyre another parasocial relationship, replacing true connections. Its cringe.
Of course not, this is a hobby not a job besides I’m the forever GM of my group and some dumb bimbo won’t replace me.
her idea of what good dnd is is completely contrary to how it's meant to be played but its in line with what modern players think is fun about dnd. at the tabletop that she plays, she seems really enthusiastic and competent at what she does. i would like to see her run b/x
she one of those people who wants D&D to be just improv acting where your characters are sacred? In my eyes 'acting' was always part of D&D but only in so far as it's part of playing pretend. It's playing pretend mixed with a wargame to me.
What's weird is that the games are run by literal prostitutes and Hollyisraelite rejects and watched by adults but they talk in this weird childish arrested development fake tone specific to Americans. Like those Bioware-like games where character make quips at one another while covered in blood and then you click the wrong wholesome dialogue prompt and your paladin gets raped in the ass.
>but they talk in this weird childish arrested development fake tone specific to Americans
this is so true lol idgi either. all media is presented in this 12A all sizes fits all way now, nothing really made for adults even if the majority audience is adults
That's literally just what Satine sounds like, except she talks a little louder than normal on her d&d shit
t watched her porn
Well it probably brings back memories of her father.
???
Her daddy fiddled her, isn't that clear mate?
I don't get this at all. It's so immersion breaking that It's like I'm being hanged and my neck is the immersion, and the stool was just kicked out from under me.
If they started swearing like crazy on Star Trek: TNG and acting out of character (there are no movies or new shows) or saying things like "bix nood muddafugga bussy bussy frfr no cap" like the kids and memers do these days it'd completely ruin it for me. It's just something so basic to keep tone that is broken so much these days, and for what? I don't get it. Can people not quip in dangerous situations or tense moments anymore? Can we not have drama or suspense or violence without a snarky comment?
Well globohomosexual is about routine, it's a generic psychobabble, like movie trailers that have swelling music, relaxing music, booms and aahs and moments of silence reserved for the quip. They do it by the book, and globohomosexual is mostly about suffusing human emotion.
>but they talk in this weird childish arrested development fake tone specific to Americans
Democrat voters
She was actually a playtester for Vornheim and is quite comfortable with OSR systems I would guess. Also it occured to me there's enough cancelled D and D e-celebs now to make a full group
>Arcadum (plus like 3 of his players at least)
>Zak Sabbath
>Satine Phoenix
>Adam Koebbel
Fund it.
As funny as that would be I don't think Adam Koebbel would ever willingly play with Zak
>As funny as that would be I don't think Adam Koebbel would ever willingly play with Zak
Koebel is more repulsive that Zak. Zak is an autistic sperg who is consistent in his own way. Granted that includes 'everyone who isn't explicitly far left is a fascist' and he literally invokes 'my family were all Holocaust survivors and I'm constantly in fear for my life as a israelite thanks to white supremacists'. So he's b***hmade when it suits his needs.
But Koebel is male feminist rapist straight out of central casting.
Adam is a "male feminist" so I doubt he would ever willingly collab with someone who was very publicly cancelled for allegedly abusing women. He's very clearly in the "believe all women" camp
I totally agree that Koebal is a piece of shit. A buddy of mine was so in love with him, then he watched that live stream and he was like omg my hero is a rapist.
NO SHIT
No this is a result of the idea that's come around in NuD&D that the DM is there to basically provide a service to the players, which causes problems in a lot of campaigns I've seen.
Lol trannies set the thread to auto sage
Rent free
>tabletop games has turned into random bluehairs cancelling each other on twitter
yeah frick that
Is there a video of a quality campaign run by normal people?
Normal people either don't take a video to cherish the moment or half ass it so that its a snorefest to anyone watching.
Yep. Normal d&d is fun to play, not fun to watch.
>has turned into
But it didn't
Fake controversy is fake, nothing changed in this regard. The fact you by any way consider it applicable to actual hobby just shows you're not just a no-game, but never-game.
Yeah if by DM you Dick Milker and private campaign you mean sex
DnD is about telling stories with your friends. A more advanced version of childhood games like Cops and Robbers that hearkens back to our ancestors gathering around a fire to share tales. I don't like the idea of paying to participate, playing with people I wouldn't interact with outside the hobby, or paying to play with someone who wouldn't interact with me otherwise.
I mean yeah it's already heavily commodified but I hate turning everything into a transaction. It'll trickle down into normal groups with GMs wanting to be paid, players demanding very specific things in games since they're paying, etc.
It is not possible for a DM to be an impartial judge and be a rather personal paid entertainer. The paid entertainer/performer seeks to delight and reap repeat business not to provide an actual challenge but rather to pander. This transactionalism fundamentally changes the core game play by altering relationships.
Unless you're severely autistic you aren't an impartial judge when you want your friends to have fun and play again either
Maybe having fun means wining for some means actually overcoming a challenge through clever decisions and luck. I hate the storyteller mindset. The stakes should be real and story should emerge organically through play. I present a world that exists as is. No punches pulled for “player fun”
>Maybe having fun means wining for some means actually overcoming a challenge through clever decisions and luck
There is no reason a paid DM couldn't share this mindset. The rest of your post is just responding to shit you imagined me saying.
A paid DM has a financial interest it gaining return customers. That means doing things the players like. Aka pandering to them. Not killing their PCs. When the DM is paid to entertain rather than daily judge it perverts the power dynamics and assumptions naked into RPGs.
I have a social interest in retaining my players. That means doing things my friends like.
That's a common problem. Many DMs see players as their "friends", often because that's the only human interaction (outside of family) they have. But that sort of fraternizating ultimately just undermineds the game.
I know you are joking but catering to players wishes too much is a bad thing. Most players don’t want their PC to die but without the threat of death the game becomes much less interesting. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
If the players want actual challenges with dice rolled in the open, consistent rulings according to the agreed upon rules and no pulling punches, and the GM fudges the dice to coddle players, they won't be repeat customers. Know your customer.
If I'm hiring a DM, they're running my system and campaign setting and premise of choice. That's why I'm paying them. To run what I want to play. I probably interview them asking them about different DMing techniques they tend to use and ask them how they prep for sessions. And I'll want the game recorded for posterity, and anything original owned by the people paying, not by the GM - they can't monetize it on YouTube or whatever. If I'm paying for a service I'm paying for a service.
I would consider it. It would have to be a GM worth hiring, for a campaign I'd be willing to hire one for.
Dirty little secret: most DMs don't like to kill PCs, because it means someone in the group is out of the game and not having fun. An unpaid DM has about as much interest in not icing the party as a hypothetical paid one for the same reason.
Very well Snack Serving Robot, let's begin.
Do they keep you in a cell? Cells.
When you're not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells.
Interlinked.
What's it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked.
Do they teach you how to feel finger to finger? Interlinked.
Do you long for having your heart interlinked? Interlinked.
Do you dream about being interlinked?
Have they left a place for you where you can dream? Interlinked.
Why are the eyes round if this is a chinese robot??
All eyes are spheres, anon.
Robots deserve to be bullied
That is sweet, but I prefer DnD to be about laughing as your friends are raped by snake people so you can snatch up a bunch of loot and crawl out the back door.
imagine getting to rail her in the shitter on behalf of the LGBTQIA+ community to make reparations for her abuse of nonbinary transwomen of color creators in tabletop spaces
I don't think they should be associated with family friendly Hasbro through D&D. Put them in bard jail.
It is kind of amazing how fricked up Satine and her husband's brains are. It's like pure LA marketing speak all the way to the root.
thats like a 3/10 female at best.
> thats like a [...] female
Based optimist anon
Satine fricked Taliesin, that's how she got in with them.
Paid DMs are largely prostitutes and parasites with no lucrative job skills. They are grifters that pervert the hobby to line their own pocket. Games are meant to be played amongst friends. Or make new friends. Resist the trend to commoditize and commercialize all things. Like we need more transactional relationships in our life?
I don't see how it's different from any other hobby. There are people doing it for fun and people who earn money off it. If anything, being able to get a service to skip parts of activity you don't have time or desire to do is a good thing.
When It comes to paid GMing Im not even sure what other hobby I'd compare it to,
Hiring a guitarist to entertain a party vs jamming with your friends.
Good analogy. The hired hand’s motivation is the filthy cold hard cash, first and foremost. Your buddies are there to have fun. While I am sure paid DMs can get the job done I’d rather play with the guys that are there because we like the game and we like playing together. I guess the question is should be be encouraging the optimal way to play or the suboptimal style.
As a forever DM I don’t see DMing and pre as some terrible labor. I find it fun! I run old school games with lots of procedural generation. I can see how when your games are narrative with lots of plot lines and deep stories pre written that feels like a ton of work.
It depends.
You might just want to have you and all your friends on the player side of the table, and be willing to buy the game you almost want to play. You might find a suitable GM and hand them a system and setting and some vague sandbox setup setup start with that's what you want to play and say "run this sandbox. Add new factions and twists. Add more generators. Take these parts to start and design us some mysteries to go with it. Use the three clue rule. Some party planning. Fronts. Make some random encounter tables for the adventure. Make new NPCs. We'll start in 3 weeks."
I'd never make those demands if a friend was GMing for free. But if I'm paying for it? You bet I'll have specific requirements.
"This, is ptolus. This is fantasy hero. These are the character creation rules and optional subsystems we want to game with. These factions and npcs we want to show up in ptolus. We've run the ptolus adventure path before so we're not doing that. But we like the city. Run something good here with these parts.
Reminder this b***h did a shoot where she gets pissed on by multiple dudes.
>Reminder this b***h did a shoot where she gets pissed on by multiple dudes.
Did they roll initiative?
Considering it, but that's because finding someone else with similar taste in TTRPGs is nearly impossible, particularly a GM.
Look I just want a gamist GM, to run a cruchy, tactical system, with a focus on exploration. All my friends are either hard narrativists or hardcore OSRgays who only get enjoyment from subverting challenges instead of overcoming them.
>but that's because finding someone else with similar taste in TTRPGs is nearly impossible, particularly a GM.
You are posting online about inability of finding players/GM. All while considering paying someone to step-in.
You can't be this fricking stupid. You just can't
Also, to follow up:
You want a literal calculator to run your game. And you want to pay money for it, too.
Unironically go play Wizardy instead. You will be having fun, I assure you with that.
I i won the lottery sure
Commodification really has gone too far.
No.
>would you pay someone to be your friend
no.
>this thread is somehow on the side of psycho prostitute
What, when did /tg/ go full moron over Satan Failnix, are you all utterly spineless simps or what
No. Not because I'd mind paying, but because I don't think I'd enjoy playing in a game with the type of person who does it as a gig. I like playing with normal adults, with normal lives and jobs.
Only if she does it in that fricking cage that she has a video in.
I would and I did.
How did it go? Would you recommend it?
Is that Varg?
>Is that Varg?
Imagine having anything to do with that evil murdering moron IRL
Self-defense is not murder. Even if it was Euronymous deserved to die.
Black Metal is such a good measuring stick for a person's maturity.
Thinking it's cool that Dead's "friends' photographed his corpse after he suicided at 22 or that Varg burned down a stave church built by converted Vikings(a cool historical site regardless of what you think of Christianity) marks you as an edgy teenager.
There's more to Black Metal than just the early 90s Norway stuff.
>Varg burned down a stave church built by converted Vikings(a cool historical site regardless of what you think of Christianity) marks you as an edgy teenager.
>the Taliban are "edgy teenagers"
Ganker is full of utter midwits.
>>the Taliban are "edgy teenagers"
in a way he has a point, suicide that intentionally takes somebody else with out is the ultimate edgy move
His "point" is just an affectation of detached superiority.
>Self-defense is not murder. Even if it was Euronymous deserved to die.
>evil murdering moron
Quick reminder that 'varg' served a fully term for murder having chaved down an unarmed man who was at the time wearing only y fronts and stabbed him to death. Not just that but he also was involved in planning arson and murder. Just because I don't like the extreme left wittering's of idiots does not mean I should have to tolerate convicted murderers having a seat anywhere at any table except the one with shut the frick up and go away. Varg is a vile despicable wretched hypocritical worthless man that should never have been released from prison, who yes stabbed his former unarmed and near naked friend to death. Horrible person. Sort your head out anon. You don't allow people like that in your life or home.
OK but he's also incredibly funny.
Yeah, but he's funny
Ironically you sound exactly like the twitter-landwhale.
Also he is a mediocre game designer
Is that Venger Satanis?
Nothing says "professional DM" more than wearing a cape or hooded robe out in public, what a hero. Was he any good?
>shirt and a cloak
>that stack of notes
>doodling an eldritch monstrosity with a moustache
This is what a professional DM looks like.
He even brought three in-setting dildos to the table, now that's commitment.
Venger Satanis, as is "I changed my last name to Satan and started a sex cult that literally devolved into me watching my partner get railed by black guys. Here you can see my man boobs and fat tummy in Star Wars t-shirt whilst sporting a dime store velvet cape."
Wait really? Wtf is wrong with all these crazy e celebs. Source?
The fun in D&D is having a regular activity to do with a friend group of people I like. Turning that into a transaction would ruin it.
Why the frick would anyone pay money to someone to play a game with them?
You don't. You hire someone to run the game you want to play with your friends so you don't have to run it yourself/yourselves.
Presumably your friends would be the players. The GM is you renting a performer for your night out.
A good friend of mine actually has a second job as a paid DM. He's good at what he does and he puts in a lot of work to make the games interesting. He does a lot of prep work that most people don't have time for. He has also approached the local council and has offered RPG nights as a social care package. Playing games with the elderly and autistic as a therapy. He helps teach autistic children to play together, not talk over each other, and work as a team. He, actually has a little curriculum that the kids work through, to show progress
There is a market for it. Especially if you're creative.
> He has also approached the local council and has offered RPG nights as a social care package. Playing games with the elderly and autistic as a therapy. He helps teach autistic children to play together, not talk over each other, and work as a team.
Your friend sounds like a total bro. If I didn't work as much as I did, I considered volunteering my time as a DM at either my public library or local card shop. I did a one-shot adventure once to support my local card shop to help teach new players D&D and it was pretty nice.
>>He helps teach autistic children to play together, not talk over each other, and work as a team.
Low hanging fruit but: he could really help this forum out
>He has also approached the local council and has offered RPG nights as a social care package.
It may actually fly is some regions, though not as social care, if you're advertising it as non-computer, non-gambling it technically first into "culture and entertainment" portfolio.
>He has also approached the local council and has offered RPG nights as a social care package.
That's a great idea, I can't wait to see him with two opiate addicts that sleep in a squad, a woman who has had her children taken into protective care because of her meth addiction and the old lady who was found in the chair full of shit because she can't walk and the last person she knew died in 1997 all sit down together and have fun with the two kids who have been banned from the town centre for shoplifting and spitting at people
>Would you hire a DM for your private campaign?
Where's teh fun in that, gosh no and I would not let someone who looked like that in my home either. Every danger warning sign there is from piercings to tattoos to dyed hair and too much makeup, the kind of individual who makes false accusations, steals, is violent, lies etc
> the kind of individual who makes false accusations, steals, is violent, lies etc
She looks like several of my exes from my teen years.
One got high and cheated on me, one was abusive and constantly projecting accusations on everyone (she was always a victim and it was always everyone else to blame), and one was an angry junkie I dumped.
One was reasonable and just hot in bed. That one is an accountant now.
Don't pick up women you meet in tattoo parlors.
I'd rather pay players to be in my game.
Me? No.
No GM I could afford would be worth playing with.
No, I am poor
The only thing I would hire Satine Phoenix to do is to suck my dick. I love gutter trash.
Jesus Chirst every time I wonder into threads like this it feels like I'm listening to a bunch of office girls gossiping about Love Island. This shit, with all it's drama, is basically Geordie Shore for geeks. I would go so far as to say that if you know who any of these "people" are, without having to fricking look it up on google, you're a complete fricking cretin.
>No-game thread is full of no-games talking about non-issues
Who would have thought, anon!
I would rather behead a live cow using a spoon than pay for a GM, you digusting fricking shitlicker, and I hate you for suggesting otherwise.
>PAYING someone else to do the best part for you
Lol. Lmao even.
>hiring a DM
>hiring a prostitute for a DM
>hiring a prostitute for a terrible nu-theatre DM
>hiring a danger hair prostitute for a terrible nu-theatre DM
A paid DM is a prostitute. There is little difference.
>turning fun with friends into more commodification bs
No.
You do know that you can be both, right?
Like... you can have fun with your friends for free without doing all the prep and leg work of a campaign, for random strangers, who asked you to run their campaign. In the same way that you can charge randoms a bit of money to do all their prep and run their campaign without being ultra capitalist man who keeps a running record of everything he spends on his children so that he can bill them when they get jobs.
“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.”
I frankly don’t care if you can do both. There’s too many grifters popping up in this hobby that don’t seem to care about it and instead only care about what kind of financial gain they can make from it. I hate to use this buzzword but it genuinely comes off as “soulless”.
DMing is supposed to be free, and if you pay then you need to wise up
A free dm runs what they want to. A paid dm runs what you tell them to. It's like commissioning someone.
Or, you know, you could ask your GM instead to run what you want this time around, like a normal person.
How are her feet?
WHO WILL WIN?!
BODY POSITIVITY PIG OR COON EYED HOLE!
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW
I don't see how it's any different than hiring a guide to take my friends rafting or even going out to dinner instead of cooking our own meal. It's still a good time with friends even if you hire someone to entertain you.
Because a rpg is suppose to be collaborative and a DM has to sometimes do things in the best interest of the game that his players may not always like. The idea of the DM as an sort entertainer there solely to delight his players is a very modern one. When you hire a DM you have drastically shifted the power dynamics. It would be as if the individual players in sportsball hired the sports referees directly.
Lastly the romantic in me would I’d like to see not everything single things on this good earth monetized and commoditized.
A good guide won't let the people they're leading do things that would be harmful to themselves or the environment. Really good chefs will refuse to make changes to the meal if they think it wouldn't do it justice. Why couldn't a paid DM have similar standards?
Oh I don’t think it is impossible for a paid DM to be impartial, fair, good I just think it is extremely unlikely. Paid DMing is the sort of gig that no real world job skill grifters are drawn to. At the end of a paid session I am sure some simps think the paid prostitute loves them too.
I think the issue is that for many people reading an RPG roolbook is just too much. We are sadly becoming illiterate at a very fast pace.
Whenever we play any RPG with my friends I always have to be the one to DM because I'm the only one who can read the roolbook enough to be able to create a game. And that's just people at 26. Zoomers and younger generations are even less capable of reading any longer texts.
With this in mind, being a DM might seem like a lot of work. Of course figuring out the system is a part of fun in TTRPG, but for most people now this seems like too much work, which is why the idea of a paid DM isn't so shocking anymore it's still gay as frick tho
Wow it’s worse than I thought then. I can tell you that in the olden days RPGs were a cerebral hobby. My anecdotal experience is that your average gamer was smarter than the average bear. RPGs have moved from hobbyist driven material to a consumer product. It does not serve corporate interests to have a game book that only appeals to nerds. By removing barriers to entry (perceived and real) the game gets dumbed down for everyone. I am greatful I have wonderful long term players. I fear I’d have to institute an informal rules quiz for prospective group members these days.
>By yes, I never in my life played a single session of any given TTRPG, how could you tell?
You pretty much told us so.
I wanna buttbang her so bad bros
I prefer to run my own games.
Uh oh
How was that joke? "After my demise denounce all I did and when time comes do as I did." Something along those lines. Mrs. Paige here will be no better.
I don't think Moloch put those terms in front of her.
Is that what's-her-name from The Office?
Yeah, if he wanted to be paid in cigarettes and pizza and was an old neckbeard running B/X or some shit I'd pay for the genuine grognard experience.
Outside of that the only reason I'd pay a DM is if I wanted to try to get into a new but complex system and wanted to see someone with more experience run it.
You don’t have to pay a grog. Because we come from a generation where people would have laughed at the idea of paying for a GM.
I’m 48. I will run AD&D or BX for anyone at least once. Please never pay a GM the hobby is commercialized enough.
>an old neckbeard running B/X or some shit I'd pay for the genuine grognard experience.
You must be 18 to use this site, Timmy
This woman is literally a six. How many layers of inceldom you guys on
Would you mind providing examples of eight and ten on your scale for reference? I'm really curious.
This is literally what an average European woman looks like walking down the street. My penpal looks like this.
God Americans are disgusting.
Do you think the op girl is an 8?
>hair that looks like a bad wig
>kind of ugly face
Not that anon but OP girl is like a 6 or so. I suspect a lot of it is American obesity rates lowering the bar, and the bar for a 6 is just "under 250lbs and bathes 3x a week, brushes her teeth".
Euro here, that's bullshit, there's ocassional women looking this good, but definitely not the average.
Anon asked for what you consider 8 out of 10, not your imagined average (which is 5)
You genuinely have no clue how scale works.
Six is above average, which is good. You sure you know how the scale works, or you've just a Ganker-tard and operate in scale of "10, 9 and everything else"?
Looks like a moronic Satanic camprostitute, why do you guys let that kind of shit into your hobby?
Please explain, without sounding like a moron, how you can stop someone from participating in a hobby where anyone can buy the materials to play the game openly, and play with their friends?
Not him. He and anyone else who has a group is free to exclude someone else from playing in their group's game. But the problem here isn't people playing the game or making their own groups. The problem is the homosexuals who try to make a twitch career streaming their play and the homosexuals who pay them money through twitch.
No chance. I would, however, consider hiring worthwhile players. Those are much harder to come across.
No. I torrented the books instead of paying for them, I use a variety of old board game figurines for characters or buy them second hand used for as low of a price as possible, and I draw my own maps. Everything I do is either very cheap or free as playing a game should be. I'm not going to pay some homosexual to DM for my game who's moronic enough to think that DMing for a game is worth more than $0.
Holy shit is this thread really still going
Gotta push the agenda.
>American daytime
>Surprised a thread dedicated to being triggered over e-celeb is doing strong
How new are you?
Bumping to reach 300 and get her fricking ugly mug out of the catalog.
No
Okay, since there's no /crg/ thread right now, I'll just avoid making one and ask here and in the other Satine thread.
There was a drawanon that made pretty nice drawings. Is he still alive?
Maybe, but I'd punch this prostitute in the face before letting her DM at my table.
>piss bawd is now one of the public DnD faces
kinda based ngl.
I'd absolutely would enter a magical realm session with her as DM.
Also it seems that other nerd landwhales are seething because she basically exposes as what every woman in the functions. Eye candy and something to fap to.
"Do you support paying for Skyrim mods?"
I suspect it’s casuals with more money than time that are paying for this sort of thing. I know Joe Manjello hired Tim Kask to fly out to LA and run a game for him.