XIV

>still the best expansion.
will Dawntrail be better?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shadowbabs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      HW was ASS in every aspect that wasn't story and no amount of rose-tinted nostalgia will change that
      That said I miss the job identity we had in Stormblood

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >An entire year of Shiva savage until Bozja finally properly happened

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      red alphi!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is she so autistic

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no blizzcon

    it's joever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you not try to derail the thread from the start?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blizzard employees can't rape con goers
      >decide to cancel the whole thing

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >play free trial
    >game doesnt get good
    thanks for wasting my time with your lies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      many such cases!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you at least buy something from the store, chud?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thanks for wasting my time with your lies.
      He fell for the meme lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have to play 200 more hours

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, you have to fully play the game up to the current expansion, then play something else. That's how you truly know that you invested your time well.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we hate Lyse here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It won't be worse than Endwalker that's for sure

      based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Content wise, the undisputed king. I wasn't the biggest fan of the story but the story but there is more to an expansion than just story. Still has the best alliance raid. I would have said Endwalker's alliance raid was close second if not for the giant wet fart the ending was.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Endwalker's alliance raid

        If you die to a single mechanic in the endwalker raid you should immediately lose your drivers license. The

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          a-anon? Are you alright?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He noticed his driver's license was missing....

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was fun and the music was good. Yeah it's piss easy but they took the teeth away from all the other alliance raids too.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    Anon, if you're here from last thread can you give me some of the political stories you like?
    I will give you no judgement and the only (You) will get from me is a thank you for what to check out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, GoT is a good political story.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you anon
        Can I have another.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know, CAN you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes I can

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the WoW boogeyman
    There were at least two WoW gays arguing with each other whether Classic, Retail, or third world version is gayer in the last thread.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i don't play WoW anymore but Classic is definitely gayer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        need i remind you who the Patron Saint of XIV is?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh god he really did turn into a troony
          what happened

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            naw, he just likes dominant women

            truly dominant women tend to like to make submissive boys crossdress, because even a tomboy is better at being feminine than a regular boy, thus pulling him into her domain where she can truly dominate and control him

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            transvestite is not transsexual, dumb poser

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              A freak's a freak.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and a poser's a poser

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know when you look at a man and just know you could easily snap him in half with no effort. This is one of them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nta but dude has more biceps than 90% of Ganker anons lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          he is still around?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah he lasted about 5 months of "twitter banishment" before crawling back gayer than ever

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread dies when discord /xivg/ raiders aren't shitting up the threads.
    Very interesting.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >best expansion
    You mean the only redeeming part of this "mmo" slopfest?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ruffles suck and so do you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The cheddar & sour cream ones are pretty nice

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >free trial

      need i remind you who the Patron Saint of XIV is?

      >eceleb gossip

      oh god he really did turn into a troony
      what happened

      >700 word English vocabulary
      I wonder who could be behind these posts?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        schizo poster hours

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > horas de carteles esquizofrénicos

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a marvel that he can stand

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    all of you deserve death

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Generals belong to /vg/

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's so good about it?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is purple lalafel still here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, I'm working though so no new screenshot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        LETS FRICKING OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea, I'm working though so no new screenshot

          is purple lalafel still here?

          MEDS

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    oh god another attention prostitute

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1.X player here, SB was the best expansion by far
    >but the story!?
    Doesn't matter, that's the least important part.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why yes I did pay for the failed version of the game
      Well, nobody cares what an absolute moron thinks, thankfully.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's make or break time, so I hope it's at least quality.
    EW's MSQ, including patch story, was a rushed mess, and now they're building from scratch.
    Yoshipee promised more content, but they have to deliver too. More shit to grind, faster patch schedule.
    Graphics update was needed, and the new AA and less mushy textures look beautiful. But they really dropped the ball on "we're not changing too much", people like every single square edge of their characters' faces

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But they really dropped the ball on "we're not changing too much
      Have you not seen the immense backlash for the little changes that the graphics update made? If they fully changed the graphics around, people would be mass an heroing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is what I said, you fricking moron

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea rereading your post, you are right. Sorry bout that. Multi-tasking failed me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        proportionally speaking the immense backlash is still a tiny, tiny corner of twitter and the official forums

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Yoshipee promised more content
      This playerbase forgets because they lack the nutrients to supply adequate brain power because they're all too busy cooming in the quicksands.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will Dawntrail top HW MSQ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Heavensward is so overrated it's insane. I'm pretty sure people just like it the most because it's the one that came right after ARR.
      Shadowbringers > Stormblood > heavensward
      Haven't played endwalker

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        im glad this homosexual died

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          take that back NOW!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Of all the allies who died for us, Haurchefant hurts the most. This guy took us in while everyone else turned their back on us. He always believed in us and even opened his home to us.
          He also died to protect us. Not for some grandiose ritual or last stand like the others. Dude took a bullet for us, and in his dying breath told us to cheer up. We even remembered what he said two expansions later. The Dark Knight job quests is basically us coping with his death.
          No deaths before or after hits as hard as Haurchefant. Maybe Zenos' death, maybe.

          So you take that back, gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same so astroturfed, and if you so much as say you don't like him the fake nice community gets riled up. They're all nice until you say something that goes against their narrative much like leftists.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Will dogshit top horseshit?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's the deal with lalas?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trans btw>Heavensward is so overrated it's insane. I'm pretty sure people just like it the most because it's the one that came right after ARR.
    >Shadowbringers > Stormblood > heavensward
    >Haven't played endwalker

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the over/under on asmon coming back for DT?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      did he beat endwalker?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      unlikely and he's still unwanted by the community and mostly ignored by the devs, so he can't pull the whole "i am blizzard's fated enemy" thing with square enix and he can't pull the same with the community without alienating them even further

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope not. He did react to a video covering his FF journey and said it made him want to play again. So I guess its not 0% chance.

      did he beat endwalker?

      no stopped at Ruby Sea I think

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > He did react to a video covering his FF journey
        >a reaction to a reaction of a stream
        Just play video games hombres, sell some weed or whatever you guys do to get the 14,000,000 pesos

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no stopped at Ruby Sea I think
        Yep. Don't care what anyone says, Ruby Sea is more of a filter than ARR will ever be. The only reason I didn't drop the game there was because I paid money to play that shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          he finished Ruby Sea, to be specific

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the dude played XIV specifically as a means of getting back at blizzard for their dogshit expansions in retail

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He already said this game is shit he isn't coming back unless it is to get all the shitters playing WoW over to this game. Now Rich, he is coming back which will make the 41% seethe endless and pump their numbers up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Roach man would just piss everyone on every side off if he came back.
      >"XIV andies" hate him for refusing to play the game during his allotted time for it
      >MSQ proxy enjoyers will get pissed if he tries to skip Stormblood or finish it off camera, and the expac was a hard wall for him
      >moaning WoW neckbeards will get upset he's not playing WoW again and beg him to go back
      >He's a danger name in-game for XIV now and barely any of his dedicated ass lickers for parades still play

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think he is coming back thanks to some based schizos in /wowg/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's not? Stop asking him to either for frick sake. The guy is a news/ reacts streamer, you really want to sit for 6 hours of reaction content while he plays ff14 for one hour, gets pissed off and shits all over the game again? You want that? Because that's what will happen if he "comes back".
      Get over he's done with mmo's in general. He will always be mazed to WoW but even with that game he barely plays it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chill bro. Just asking questions. Hot viera though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Asmon is literally the reason why the new player count for EW exploded the way it did.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah a guy with 20k viewers made millions come and try the game

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            literally yeah

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He hit 200k viewers during his first FFXIV stream. The only time XIV gets that many viewers is during fanfes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            On his secondary, he has imposter syndrome so he had to stop streaming on his main account that would easily pull 100k viewers. He is the sole reason why ffxiv received a boom in players

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Asmon is literally the reason why the new player count for EW exploded the way it did.

              lmao are you really serious right now?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, he brought in millions, by playing the game and others followed-suite. Stop acting like this game got more players due to natural reasons. It didn't, actually the game was dumped with all of WoW's bad players. Which is why the community is so ass right now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he brought millions by streaming to like ten thousands of people
                Newsflash to you zoomer, streaming doesn't help sell a game at all.
                https://steamdb.info/app/2216960/charts/
                This game here was streamed by some of the biggest streamers like MoonMoon and sodapoppin, all having over 20k viewers when streaming it.

                Look at the numbers for the game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lets see stellar blades numbers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick does stellar blade have to do with streamers? Are you seriously going to argue that it only sells because of streamers?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he cant do it
                Check mate tard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to kiwifarms.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He put the game on the map. Cope all you want troony, without him the game wouldn't be where it is right now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >watches asmon
                >calls other people trannies
                Do you realize the irony in this?
                Well I know you are trolling either way, so last reply from me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A simple peak at google trends is enough to prove you wrong. Dude brought in more interest than Shadowbringers did. And it led to a cascade affect of a bunch of other streamers checking out the game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                On his secondary, he has imposter syndrome so he had to stop streaming on his main account that would easily pull 100k viewers. He is the sole reason why ffxiv received a boom in players

                This is what Mexicans really think

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's artificial and short term growth, of course it's good and opens the eyes of people to the game who would not have seen it otherwise. However it's not solely attributable to a single streamer and to have the growth of FF14 tied to a streamer, you're asking for the game to fall into the trap that WoW fell into, where the growth is dependant on content creators and streamers. Whereas although ff14 has them, albeit on a smaller scale, it doesn't need them to exist and be successful. Which is a very good thing, think of all the live service games which bend to streamer demands, and because drama and negativity drives traffic for a streamer, it's in their interest to demand more and create more drama around a game until the game itself breaks after bending too much to those demands.
          14 will grow slower it's true without the massive influencers but it will absolutely create a more loyal and stable player base than one who is intensely follows the FOMO game streamer crowd.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            XIV peaked, dude. IDK what to tell you.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              We'll see when DT releases. XIV has only been trending up on avg with each expansion release

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                DT has zero hype especially since XVI flopped as hard as it did

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm sitting typing here not playing the game because I'm locked out of my server, there are so many homosexuals farming the fates for the Yokai event. If it peaked then what the frick?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it wasn't. There are now more people going into DT than ever. Confirmed by the preorders.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was a perfect storm for 14 to have such a huge influx of players. WoW at its worst. 14 has a good free trial. All the big view count streamers trying it out. And covid lockdown, meaning everyone is stuck at home watching streams and playing it themselves.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That would be Covid

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            literally all video games across the board experienced inflated player counts you gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the game will never peak again

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly why he needs to never come back and you need to have a nice day. Holy frick I'm so sick of WoWBlack person e-celeb obsession.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            never said it was a good or bad thing, just that it WAS a thing that DID happen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you actually have a nice day?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          literally yeah

          He hit 200k viewers during his first FFXIV stream. The only time XIV gets that many viewers is during fanfes

          On his secondary, he has imposter syndrome so he had to stop streaming on his main account that would easily pull 100k viewers. He is the sole reason why ffxiv received a boom in players

          >Zoomers think it was some sweaty gross loser that has roaches crawling over his chest and drinks months old mcdonalds moldy milkshakes and not the aggressive normie shilling that happened during shadowbringers with the spider man actor commercial
          You are moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The mass influx of players happened at the end of ShB when all the WoWrat e-celebs checked out the game at the same time. You can even see it in these threads, where since then we suddenly have half the thread trying to discuss said e-celebs on a daily basis.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Pyro having a meltdown right now because his house got demo'd because he wasnt't playing the game in months because there's been no content

              Lmao. He has a good point tho

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You can even see it in these threads
              You have no way to prove this, to begin with using Ganker threads as a control group is incredibly bad because these are the least normie adjacent people.
              But even before all of that, I want to hear you say it, I want you to say you think asmongold is more popular than tom holland when he was at his peak because of marvel shit and hannibal buress after he'd just got done with the eric andre show.

              Please god say it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You have no way to prove this
                I do, actually. The archives exist.
                >But even before all of that, I want to hear you say it, I want you to say you think asmongold is more popular than tom holland when he was at his peak because of marvel shit and hannibal buress after he'd just got done with the eric andre show.
                Take a chill pill you hyperventilating troony. When it comes to video games, yeah, asmongold is much more influential. I'm sure you want to pretend your favorite streamer is some grass roots niche nobody and you're not a homosexual sheep, but asmongold is managed by a Disney subsidiary. There was no gigantic influx at the beginning of ShB with the Spiderman ads. There was, however, a gigantic influx at the end of it when the WoWrats all flooded in at the same time and Yoshida suddenly started scrambling to buy new servers and get new data centers set up. I wonder why he wasn't doing that at the beginning of ShB? Maybe because those ads weren't as effective as you think?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Zoomies really think fricking asmon is more of a household name and more able to move normies than the guy who is the current face of marvel spider man
                You cannot make this shit up, they are really this fricking delusional about a homie that literally has wienerroaches crawling all over him.
                >Archive
                You can't even prove multiple people are in a thread anymore because IP count is nuked moron, you really think you can prove based on POSTS on Ganker where samegayging is not only a thing but an issue.
                That any interest in asmongold is not one person shilling him, there's literally more evidence to the contrary.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You cannot make this shit up, they are really this fricking delusional about a homie that literally has wienerroaches crawling all over him.
                When it comes to video games, yeah, he is. You think fricking youtube ads of Spiderman got normalgays to play ShB? Because I can tell you they didn't in any significant amount. Because I was there at ShB launch. On the other hand, I can prove to you with Yoshida's own words that there was a HUGE influx of players at the tail end of ShB when all the WoW e-celebs started playing.
                >You can't even prove multiple people are in a thread anymore because IP count is nuked moron, you really think you can prove based on POSTS on Ganker where samegayging is not only a thing but an issue.
                I can show you that e-celeb discussion was not a thing in FFXIV threads until WoWrats started playing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're delusional.
                >I can show you that e-celeb discussion was not a thing in FFXIV threads until WoWrats started playing.
                Yes and I can show you ACK on Ganker spamming yuri threads for 4 hours getting 180 of his posts wiped.
                Hell I can show you the fricking /vt/ marineschizo literally solo bumping his own hate thread only to have it nuked.
                posts on Ganker means frick all because guess what? shitposters and schizos who spam one topic to make threads work exist.

                Until you can factually prove otherwise you're just moronic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you tell me why there was no news post like this at the beginning of ShB?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                Is it possibly because you're full of shit?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can't address the fact that post count means nothing when it could easily be samegayging
                You still haven't answered my question on how you can prove it isn't shitposting or samegayging.
                You can't even disprove the assertion that mods and jannies have every motive to allow that kind of posting run rampant since they blatantly autosage and delete on topic XIV threads during fanfests and live letters.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's cool but can you explain why those news posts were made at the end of ShB and beginning of EW and not at the beginning of ShB when the imaginary Spiderman fans were all starting the game?
                I'll link them again so you can read.
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731
                Please don't dodge the question again, loony troon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah you really won't answer lmao, imagine getting gotcha'd so hard on your own point that you have to immediately goal post shit?
                Or is this the part where you pretend you're a totally different poster?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you're not going to explain why your imaginary Spiderman fans didn't decide to stress the servers until three years after they supposedly started? Or why they did it at the exact same time the WoW e-celebs started playing?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I shift the topic away from your initial claim that e-celeb posting was a direct causal link with asmongold shifting subs when you haven't even addressed the moronation of your premise?
                That is textbook goal-post shifting fallacy, you're basically formally conceding your previous claim and trying to re contextualize the argument you sped.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You've already preemptively dismissed any proof I could give from the archives that FFXIV threads saw a mass influx of e-celeb dickthroaters, so I wonder why you won't move on from that and answer why Yoshida only made news posts about how the servers were melting after the WoW e-celebs started the game, and not when your supposed Spiderman fans started.
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731
                Is it because you can't answer so you just want me to talk in circles on a topic you've already admitted you won't accept any proof for?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so I wonder why you won't move on from that
                Because you didn't address it dipshit, formally concede and appeal to a new topic instead of trying to obfuscate and sneak in a completely new argument out of nowhere.
                Do you not know how debate works? I'm under no obligation to suddenly surrender to your obvious attempts to gish gallop in another line of argumentations when you aren't even addressing your previous point.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because you didn't address it dipshit
                You already told me that you won't accept any proof for anything in regards to it, so why would I address it?
                >instead of trying to obfuscate and sneak in a completely new argument out of nowhere.
                Actually I mentioned Yoshida's news posts right away. Are you illiterate? Is that the problem?
                Let me link the news posts again. If you can't explain the timing of these news posts coming at the end of ShB/beginning of EW rather than the beginning of ShB like you claimed, then concede or at least just stop flooding the thread with your stupidity.
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

                >You already told me that you won't accept any proof for anything in regards to it, so why would I address it?
                You need me to tell you why it's important in a conversation that you address that your previous point.
                The entire start of this disagreement, was a moronic premise that was both incorrect and based on completely unverifiable reasoning that is countered by the very nature of posting on Ganker?

                Yeah you're just bad faith barry bro. If you need me to explain to you why clarifying you're conceding a point before you start a new point is important than you're supremely autistic, a sped, or stupid.
                The crux of a good faith conversation is both biting bullets and being clear when you are shifting topics.

                Anything else before I ignore you for the rest of the thread lil guy?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Here, let me help you out. Let's look at my original post.

                >You have no way to prove this
                I do, actually. The archives exist.
                >But even before all of that, I want to hear you say it, I want you to say you think asmongold is more popular than tom holland when he was at his peak because of marvel shit and hannibal buress after he'd just got done with the eric andre show.
                Take a chill pill you hyperventilating troony. When it comes to video games, yeah, asmongold is much more influential. I'm sure you want to pretend your favorite streamer is some grass roots niche nobody and you're not a homosexual sheep, but asmongold is managed by a Disney subsidiary. There was no gigantic influx at the beginning of ShB with the Spiderman ads. There was, however, a gigantic influx at the end of it when the WoWrats all flooded in at the same time and Yoshida suddenly started scrambling to buy new servers and get new data centers set up. I wonder why he wasn't doing that at the beginning of ShB? Maybe because those ads weren't as effective as you think?

                >There was, however, a gigantic influx at the end of it when the WoWrats all flooded in at the same time and Yoshida suddenly started scrambling to buy new servers and get new data centers set up. I wonder why he wasn't doing that at the beginning of ShB? Maybe because those ads weren't as effective as you think?
                Wow, crazy. That's like... what I've been trying to get you to talk about this whole time. That point you're refusing to acknowledge and saying I'm trying to brute force in because you can't actually answer it. Wow! Anon, are you being dishonest? Are you actually this pathetic that you have to act like a sniveling worm homosexual like this to save face on an anonymous image board?

                I'll ask again, what are the dates of these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mindbroken by the way, you will never be an even competent debater.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What an embarrassing concession.
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a sniveling worm homosexual like this to save face on an anonymous image board?
                You literally wouldn't even openly concede your own moronic point once I disproved it, I had to force you to even passive aggressively address it and you still didn't concede lmao and now you're just ad homming because I won't play your stupid game barry.
                Imagine trying to paint me as the one trying to save face for some imaginary runaway when you're 0-1 so far and pissing yourself trying to avoid acknowledging that.

                Anyway enjoy thinking you look good after this exchange.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You literally wouldn't even openly concede your own moronic point once I disproved it
                You didn't disprove anything, you just said you wouldn't be accepting any proof because you can imagine that every post in a thread was one person so it doesn't count. 'Proof' is when I provide news posts with dates showing that your imaginary influx of Spiderman fans didn't happen, but that the mass influx of players happened alongside WoW e-celebs.
                >barry
                I'm embarrassed for you.

                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731
                Dates on these posts by the way?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn't disprove anything
                Except I did, thanks for coming back to the table like a big boy. I specifically disproved your claim that Ganker posts are indicative of a demographic uptick in XOV subscriptions or can be verified in any way, your specific claim was that you could use archive posts.
                As I said archive posts are completely inefficient as a benchmark for proof barry, simply because this site INNATELY has a history of being used for samegaygig, however on top of this we're aware that moderators do not nor are they incentivized to actively clean up any attempts at low quality posting such as e-celeb spam or just general shitposting as these threads are a constant target of autosaging or deletion on days when content and interest are at their peak.

                Now if you cannot, nor have any desire to refute what I have just laid out, are you formally conceding this point?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The funniest part is he refuses to acknowledge that the asmon spammers are lsfkiddies who can't even afford subs. Asmons fanbase are children.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >thanks for coming back to the table like a big boy.
                LOL you're the one who left it.

                Mindbroken by the way, you will never be an even competent debater.

                >I specifically disproved your claim that Ganker posts are indicative of a demographic uptick in XOV subscriptions or can be verified in any way, your specific claim was that you could use archive posts.
                You didn't disprove anything. Saying "I imagined that those threads are all samegayged" is not proof of anything except your own mental illness.
                >As I said archive posts are completely inefficient as a benchmark for proof
                Yes, we've been through this, you've said over and over again that you will not accept any proof in regards to Ganker posts. So why are you still clinging to it? Is it because you don't want to address the other point you have no answer for? Yes, I think that's it.
                >barry
                This is really embarrassing. You don't even know who Barry is, do you?
                >Now if you cannot, nor have any desire to refute what I have just laid out, are you formally conceding this point?
                No, I am not conceding anything. You have said that you will not accept any proof on this topic, so it's a moot point. So move on to the next point, the one you've been dodging for many posts now.
                What are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so it's a moot point.
                That's not how argumentation works barry, you either concede or provide refutation of my point. You attempting to go "UH YOU WON'T ACCEPT EVIDENCE!!!" is trying to delegitimize my counter argument and is bad faith, which means I am under zero obligation to allow you to goal post shift.
                Reminder you spamming the same two links means frick all if you aren't even willing to concede in good faith you sped.

                Refute my point or concede, or fold your arms like a little b***h and keep trying to brute force, it really makes zero difference to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What are the dates on these posts? If you can't answer, concede like a grown up.
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, not how that works little man, you can't just keep gish galloping after you refuse to refute/concede while trying to paint my very logical dismantling of your argument as unreasonable.
                Either concede or refute barry, you can try and keep brute forcing while "no u"-ing me but you were the first one to try dropping a topic without formally conceding.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >while trying to paint my very logical dismantling of your argument
                You haven't dismantled anything, you've just said that you will not accept proof on one specific point and then for some reason have clung to that one specific point for the past dozen posts or so. "Nuh uh" is not an argument. There's no argument to be had on that point if you've admitted you're going to dismiss any proof out of hand, so move on.
                >but you were the first one to try dropping a topic without formally conceding
                You did that when you said you wouldn't accept any proof for it. Now address the point you've been dodging from the start:
                What are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You haven't dismantled anything, you've just said that you will not accept proof on one specific point and then for some reason have clung to that one specific point for the past dozen posts or so. "Nuh uh" is not an argument. There's no argument to be had on that point if you've admitted you're going to dismiss any proof out of hand, so move on.
                Nope, let's take this step by step you first claimed.

                a. Ganker posts and archived post are a valid form of gauging authentic interest and are directly tied as a marker for asmongold sending his fans and boosting the sub count of ffxiv

                I refuted this with these counter claims.

                1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

                2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

                3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

                4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

                Can you refute any of these points? or do you concede?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I refuted this with these counter claims.
                Your counter claim was "I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count." There's no argument to be had there. It's like you trying to prove to me that the Earth is round and I say that any proof you can give me is fake because scientists and NASA are liars. There's no argument to be had there.
                So what are the dates on these posts? Can you answer or do you concede?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count.
                Yep so this is a strawman, do you wanna actually address what I wrote? I'm gonna keep restating it for you.

                1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

                2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

                3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

                4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But what are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you're completely mindbroken now, very interesting how you literally wouldn't concede in good faith for this entire post and ran like a b***h from your own claim.

                >It's like you trying to prove to me that the Earth is round and I say that any proof you can give me is fake because scientists and NASA are liars
                The funniest part of this, is that you're the flat earther in this conversation because you are reducing actual evidence and claims to "uh I can't convince you"

                You haven't provided a single piece of evidence to substantiate your initial claim.
                No direct numbers or anything just baseless claims.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You haven't provided a single piece of evidence to substantiate your initial claim.
                I have. My initial claim included Yoshida's news posts. Notably, these news posts occurred at the same times that Ganker threads became more active and full of WoW e-celeb posting. Want to talk about those news posts now?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731
                No, you don't, which is why you've been dancing around it and keep trying to go back to a point you already dropped.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ngl watching you btfo thia anon is hilarious theyre grasping at straws.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you already dropped.
                Nah you just refuse to concede to save face while trying to act like I'm an old man screaming about ghosts.

                1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

                2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

                3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

                4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

                Literally can you not refute these? lmao.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thoughts on these news posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                See this is what I mean, you think you have a gotcha but the funny part is you've already proven you aren't here to actually honestly debate.
                Since the moment I proved you wrong on one topic you immediately deflected to some new topic.
                Why would I engage after that if you aren't even honest enough to concede, sped?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So to be clear, you're not going to comment on Yoshida's news posts being years after the Spiderman ads?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So are you just not going to try and refute these and just keep trying to brute force a goal post shift?

                1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

                2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

                3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

                4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

                Is that your whole strategy? just formally concede lol.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't even know who Barry is do you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also to add to this you making it seem like my claim that your primary premise being moronic is "unreasonable rejection" is bad faith framing.
                You're both wrong and intellectually dishonest so not sure why you're trying to legislate who is being more honest in the conversation.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you can explain why this post was made at the end of ShB at the same time as the WoW e-celeb migration and not the beginning where you claim the mass influx of Spiderman fans came in?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You haven't dismantled anything, you've just said that you will not accept proof on one specific point and then for some reason have clung to that one specific point for the past dozen posts or so. "Nuh uh" is not an argument. There's no argument to be had on that point if you've admitted you're going to dismiss any proof out of hand, so move on.
              Nope, let's take this step by step you first claimed.

              a. Ganker posts and archived post are a valid form of gauging authentic interest and are directly tied as a marker for asmongold sending his fans and boosting the sub count of ffxiv

              I refuted this with these counter claims.

              1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

              2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

              3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

              4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

              Can you refute any of these points? or do you concede?

              >I refuted this with these counter claims.
              Your counter claim was "I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count." There's no argument to be had there. It's like you trying to prove to me that the Earth is round and I say that any proof you can give me is fake because scientists and NASA are liars. There's no argument to be had there.
              So what are the dates on these posts? Can you answer or do you concede?
              https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
              https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              >I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count.
              Yep so this is a strawman, do you wanna actually address what I wrote? I'm gonna keep restating it for you.

              1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

              2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

              3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

              4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

              >I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count.
              Yep so this is a strawman, do you wanna actually address what I wrote? I'm gonna keep restating it for you.

              1. There is a constant history of samegayging on Ganker, that is one poster pretending to be multiple

              2. e-celeb posting is low quality and often shitposting

              3. Mods have no incentive to clean up or delete shitposting/low quality posts for FFXIV threads

              4. 3 is a valid argument because there is a history of moderation autosaging or deleting FFXIV threads at peak activity.

              But what are the dates on these posts?
              https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
              https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

              This is the worst argument I've read in awhile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He won't. XIV is not a good stream game, and he didn't enjoy streaming it either. He also hates reading.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        XIV is not a good ~~stream~~ game
        ftfy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what this means.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            strikethrough text broke

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very low. He has zero tolerance for the MSQ. He already said he refused to boost and it would make him look bad. Trashing the game means theres no chance of him getting any benefits like interviews or media tour access like before so he cant even milk it for views anymore. Shame because if he had just kept the charade up he could have milked it during WoW downtime.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this the 'blaming streamers for X' part of the cope cycle?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gets btfo with the truth
    >runs away
    typical.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there some really young guys in these threads? You try and have a discussion, talking about the game and they reply with "COPE troony". When did this start happening you can't talk about the game anymore without some extremely low effort reply in a ff14 thread?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since 2016

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this game has a general on /vg/ if you would like to discuss the game without discourse.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If I'd like to discuss the game without discourse
        How am I meant to do that?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well you bring up false equivalents expect to get owned.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't discuss the game on /vg/. Its just grown ass men pretending to be women trying to experience the high school drama they never had.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          its almost like this game has no gameplay content to discuss.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not at the moment, no. And even when the game does have content, /xivg/ still won't talk about it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >/xivg/ is shit
              Yeah, no shit and they're spilling over to Ganker threads as well.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There will be no actual discussion until the next liveletter or the new benchmark drops. These threads will just keep getting worse.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll come back then to talk about the Live Letter, looked it up May 16th is the next one, see you Anons then.

        Well you bring up false equivalents expect to get owned.

        You have a very strange way of interacting with people, you're telling me to go somewhere else to talk about the game without writing or speech and then expect to be taken seriously.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          go back to twitter homosexual, please

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your average zoomer is a latinx whose entire English vocabulary was acquired from the comment box of BLACKED videos

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >video games didn't get sold or had any intersts before streamers play them
    >ignore the fact the most popular games in the world are barely streamed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but XIV's growth occurred in 2021 and it wasn't natural at all.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        People who watch streamers don’t play video games.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah they do.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            these are the type of people who say "eat the rich!" unironically while fellating a rich dudes dick.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is probably the most pathetic thing i've ever seen on this website so far

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The game has been growing steadily for ten years, you know it failed in it's first iteration in 1.0? That's why it's called "A Realm Reborn". 2021 was the year of the 4th Expansion, if there was no growth for the proceeding 3 plus base game in version 2 it wouldn't have been around for so long.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There was a huge spike in players for Endwalker that the devs were completely unprepared for and resulted in them having to stop sales until it calmed the frick down. That shit wasn't natural.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the south american chad who owned /xivg/ forced anons to come here. Their seethe is delicious.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I pine for the days where Final Fantasy finally dies and takes its troon fanbase to the grave with it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That will never happen, but you can go back to gay centaur marriages in Wow.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love how xivvers pretend like WoW is anywhere NEAR as homosexual and troonified as XIV as if they aren't literally posting pictures of themselves in maid dresses for clout

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pretend like WoW is anywhere NEAR as homosexual and troonified as XIV
          Holy shit LMAO

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >responds with homosexual gif filled with homosexual elves like its an own
            why are fftroons like this?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Actually the character he posted is the only lgbt character in the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Never did Wanderers Palace (Hard)?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, he's definitely the type that would rape women only.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Secondary

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it smell like curry in here?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >COME BACK IN 10 YEARS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it 10 points per KO?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How can we make Odin relevant again? It's the coolest fight in the game, but it's segregated to a single trial and a short story event

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mod him

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kekw

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Grim...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Somehow these "grim" non-posts are more annoying than even the most obsessed troony post. I don't know how.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ...mirG

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            mindbroken

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Klaus Schwab!?!?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wish I could walk with such confidence.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Odin reappears randomly with Zenos' face.
      Wouldn't even be mad.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking hate Zeno's still, but at this point I'd take anything to see Odin in action again, it's a fricking crime he's so underutilized. Even on that scene where all the good primal appear to power the space shit he's nowhere to be seen

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Odin isn't part of the MSQ and he doesn't have followers to summon him

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Me, I'm an Odin follower and want to summon big knight dude

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The primal isn't the dude in armour or the horse, it's Zantetsuken itself.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would have been sick if we got to fight a new version of him in the ShB raids. Its weird that we have so little content of one of the biggest summons in FF. Look at how big he was in 16.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He'll be back for the FFXI raid to fill the role of XI's Odin in fricking up everything for everyone.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >finally released the digest
    Thank god.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The UI for this dogshit troony game is so confusing. What the frick do these symbols even mean?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The right symbol means Mars, it is short for MARS ME ADIUVAT, left is Venus and is short for VENUS INCUMBERE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never knew that actually.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because he made it up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never knew that actually.

            The male symbol really is the symbol for Mars (the planet) and the female symbol really is the symbol for Venus(the planet) hence the the famous book title "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus"

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wow, crazy. Did you also know the sky is blue?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The sky isn't actually blue, thats just the sun's rays refracted through water droplets in the atmosphere.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why did the Greco-Romans give a dwarf planet a symbol? Are they stupid?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk man, i only remember body and and body 2 from that other dead mmo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Male and Female.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >story will be either forgettable generic garbage or back to more ancient wank
    >only piece of OST so far sounds like shit
    >no real job changes, just new animations
    >Extremes and up will remain the only engaging content because everything else has to be completely braindead for some reason
    give me ONE (1) good reason to play Dawntrail

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you already made up the excuses you wanted to justify not playing it. You should probably delete your character wile you are at it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People forget they've made patch cycles longer and have given us less. FFXIV sissies are becoming mazed like the WoWbucks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >From 3 1/2 months to 4 months
        unforgivable

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This coming expansion has more confirmed content than any before it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      being lectured about the locals of troonlionanal by a condescending puerto rican troony

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of cool glams we’re going to get out of this xpac will be phenomenal. Compared to a recolored set of giant shoulderpads and spandex, now with 20 more strength

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon from the future, rate my Viper.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Show one

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >even with their game on its death bed, wowbucks still refuse to play it
    Grim

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rent free

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shadowbringers had the best MSQ, Stormblood had the best end game and content.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    By narrative principle, Dawntrail is ARR2. So make of that what you will.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so it's filler content

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you think so, sure.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Hardcore" MMO players are the most self-absorbed people honestly. Even after Yoshi acquiescing and giving you super hard content to do through Ultimates you still can't help but complain about them making content for other levels of play as well.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      man I just want to not fall asleep behind the keyboard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Moment to moment gameplay absolutely has room to be more engaging but the answer isn't DOOD MAKE MORE ULTIMATES. Everything being a brick wall of progression isn't fun all the time either.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't really care about Ultimates, as my irl schedule doesn't allow me to commit to a static and I'd rather eat broken glass than try to PF it
          but that's also exactly WHY I want casual content to be more engaging
          as it stands my options for actual fun content are limited to Extremes and Savage, both of which I'm only going to do a handful of times, which results in me only playing for a few weeks twice a year

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The content for other levels of play is dull as frick. Even mario has more of an edge than casual XIV content.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Criterion (Savage) was suppose to be the sweet spot but they fricked up and made it poop sock tier. With rewards not even worth doing because you can get the mount in normal mode.
        Oh you want the tomestone weapon upgrade? Hopefully you did the second turn of the raid tier to get the tomestone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do think it's funny that Criterion Savage is only really doable by people who actually raid.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It literally is suppose to be content you are able to jump in with tomestone gear etc to gear up with. I hope in DT they make the rewards for Criterion (Savage) better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those players are just better than the average troony playing secondlife in limsa 10hours a day, but at the same are not good enough to play a real competitive games

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lower difficulty content can be satisfying to play and still remain at a lower difficulty. The ideal way to do that is to raise the skill ceiling on the personal end and allow for more skill expression in each job. Then people who are comfortable and want to improve can do so, and they won't end up sleeping through roulettes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are the ultimate raiders complaining about casual content in the room with us right now, anon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They always are

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, either Xeno or someone in his circle lurks these threads. Proof, recently he referred to these threads on his stream a week or two ago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >proof: I watched his stream a week ago
          anon...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, I watched and watch his stream. What now?

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Reworking AST
    Going to become the SMN of healers
    >Reworking DRG
    Mostly worried about this dunno how you are going to make this class easier for the homosexuals who are too braindead to play this easy game. We already have RPR which is the SMN of melee dps

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have to look forward to another wave of XIVfugees flooding my game with this crap bombs
    Being a WoWChad is hard sometimes.
    It was bad enough when Endwalker flopped.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      THATS IT BUD, I'm calling you out.
      Meet me at Blizzcon 2024 and I'll knock your socks off

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still no free apology login

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Apology login for what

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stormblood GODS are fricking winning with DT bros.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im a free trial cuck at post HW and the game is not that good
    I made a lot of friends so I kinda feel the need to log in and chat with them, but I have no desire to continue the msq
    Hw was good but not something that made me think "ill get this game and be forced to pay monthly"
    Ill keep being free trial and treat the game as a chatbox

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have more to play for free

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ill keep being free trial and treat the game as a chatbox
      congrats this is what 90% of the people do

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still can't resub. Really great system update here SE.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do they accept paypal?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can use paypal to buy crysta, but I don't have a paypal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just use paypal homie goddamn.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just buy a timecard off amazon or g2a or some shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should be able to continue subscribing the same way I've done for the past 11 years instead of using a fricking middleman because SE broke their own fricking system.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          works for me
          skill issue

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm about to fight Titania, which is 25% through the ShB msq according to the wiki. ( 40 / 157 (25.5%)).

    I'm not sure if I'll be able to do all that I want before DT arrives. Like I could probably do all of MSQ in those 2 months but ideally I also want to do:

    >all the role quests
    >Nier and Myths
    >Eden and Pandemonium
    >Werlyt
    >EW Hildi

    Too bad I can't no life the entire thing due to work-

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You've got tons of time dude, you've got this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do nothing but story, all that side content will still be there later.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you can commit like 3hr a day + days off free time you could absolutely get through all of that in 2 months.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just take your time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it obviously depends on how much you play per day, but I think you could do it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You've got two months if you're only doing story you've got plenty of time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Advice from me to you, just skip Nier cutscenes, they are absolute dogshit and this is coming from someone who got all the trophies for Automata. Turns out, you can't force the same atmosphere into a completely different game, who knew?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can do almost all of that in like a weekend unless you're specifically trying to do Extreme/Savage at min ilvl
      the storylines to unlock all of that are only like an hour or two each

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a free trial cuck in ARR and the game is just not that good
    I was invited to an FC as soon as I zoned in so I kinda feel the need to log in and chat with them, but I have no desire to continue the msq
    ARR was good but not something that made me think "ill get this game and be forced to pay monthly"
    Ill keep being free trial and treat the game as a chatbox. Btw I got to the part where you have to leave the city and kill 3 shrews, 3 lady bugs, and 3 funguars

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >free trial
      >FC
      Dial8

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >free trial
        >FC

        If you're going to invent stories, make sure you get the possible details correct.

        I'm a free trial cuck in ARR and the game is just not that good
        I was invited to an FC as soon as I zoned in so I kinda feel the need to log in and chat with them, but I have no desire to continue the msq
        ARR was good but not something that made me think "ill get this game and be forced to pay monthly"
        Ill keep being free trial and treat the game as a chatbox. Btw I got to the part where you have to leave the city and kill 3 shrews, 3 lady bugs, and 3 funguars

        was obviously an exaggerated version of

        Im a free trial cuck at post HW and the game is not that good
        I made a lot of friends so I kinda feel the need to log in and chat with them, but I have no desire to continue the msq
        Hw was good but not something that made me think "ill get this game and be forced to pay monthly"
        Ill keep being free trial and treat the game as a chatbox

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're literally still first hour. Your opinion doesn't matter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >free trial
      >FC

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're going to invent stories, make sure you get the possible details correct.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What class/race should I roll for Cata classic?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Undead Hunter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      uninstall wizard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      female belf paladin
      what race should I roll to play as the cool Kael'thas mage in War Within

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        undead

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      undead hunter with spider pets

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Pyro having a meltdown right now because his house got demo'd because he wasnt't playing the game in months because there's been no content

    Lmao. He has a good point tho

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea who this person is other than that you keep mentioning them. Please stop. I'm here to discuss video games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're watching him? It takes something where he made the FF14 streamers look masculine.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In Pyro's case, it's like watching a car accident. You're only watching because it's somewhere between horrific and intriguing how one man can constantly one-up himself in turns of moronation and cringe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea who this person is other than that you keep mentioning them. Please stop. I'm here to discuss video games.

      Yes, I watched and watch his stream. What now?

      [...]

      You're watching him? It takes something where he made the FF14 streamers look masculine.

      Man

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally every single FF7 Rebirth stream of his has been sponsored somehow. It's also been a month and he still hasn't finished it. Don't know how he's still getting sponsored to stream it, I dont think I've seen any other streamers with #AD on their FF7 Rebirth streams.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ignored the multiple e-mails warning you about upcoming house demolitions
      >couldn't be bothered to log in for 30 seconds to reset the timer
      Deserved

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wowbrained Black person HAS to be told to do stuff with le flashy MSQ icons
      Deserved

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are lalafells like this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All virgins that just made shit up, especially the whm

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tataru is a prostitute, fufu and modi are hags. Nanamo isn’t included and probably is a virgin, given she has a supposed to be only 20.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yellowjacket lala isn't there
      Grim.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Housing

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Moogle Tome events aren't content!
    >Holiday Events aren't content!
    >None of this shit is content and it's not worth subbing for

    GO OFF KING

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    buy a fricking ad troony

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Add a Crystarium or Sharlayan housing ward.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They live in apartments

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        We saved the First, I think we can afford some suburbs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their suburbs are more rows of underground apartments

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Housing on the moon

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game is really boring and the people who like it are also boring.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Now Pyro seems to be upset at his wife because the ramen she got him doesn't have any meat in it
    Yikes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone made... art of.. a shitty meme?
      Fricking yikes dude

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Couldn't be me.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah so it's you, no wonder shitposting ramped up like 20 fold. When will you ACK herman?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh this was my first post in this thread, I just got home early from work. And sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a healthy straight white male.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Post proof of your work ID and time stamp.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He sounds like a real peach

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      jesus christ

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DID YOU NOT PUT MEAT IN MY FRICKING RAMEN LIKE I ASKED FOR, b***h? *SMACK*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who tried to make something of a career out of video games, it is a terribly empty existence, even when you're doing well at it. I don't excuse him, but I totally get it. Everything that goes wrong feels monumentally wrong because a career based in entertainment is a fricking joke to begin with.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what content do people want when they nebulously complain about "no content"? It's all very silly, MMOs have always had patch cadences and at this point in the game you really have nobody to blame but yourself if you truly have run out of things to do. Go do Eureka, go do Bozja, go work on Relics, figure it out man. If you've already done all that great, you engaged with the game beyond what most people are willing to do. For those who refuse to engage with non-raid content for whatever reason I have nothing to really to say other than "okay". Content shouldn't exist just for the sake of having content, that's how you get mandatory content engagement like WoW had for the longest time and might still have. There has to be meaning behind it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mythic+. Fates turned into world quests. Another raid difficulty setting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So what content do people want when they nebulously complain about "no content"?
      >Go do Eureka, go do Bozja, go work on Relics
      lol, you explain exactly what people want when you admit that Eureka, Bozja, and past relics are content dense enough to last through several expansions. EW didn't have any of that, just island spreadsheets. Fricking idiot.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Adding a foray will not solve everyone's content complaints.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's weird, because it did exactly that for the past two expansions. Why'd you point to them as content to do in EW if now you're saying a new one wouldn't be satisfactory content?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Tons of people were complaining about a lack of content in SHB too

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Raidloggers were complaining about DSR being delayed, you mean.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, people were complaining about the lack of content in general
                Nier raids were boring, the dungeons were boring, Bozja and raidlogging were basically the only semi-interesting content to do
                this is also why Dawntrail is going to fall off a cliff once the expansion hype fades, more content doesn't do much when most of the content (and the jobs through which you interact with the content) just isn't very interesting

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >MUH HEAVENSWARD JOB DESIGN
                you're boring.
                go back.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                who said anything about Heavensward?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Someone points out ShB had boring job design.
                >Shadowbaby IMMEDIATELY spergs our about Heavensward.
                Very, very mentally unstable!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Heavensward out of absolutely nowhere.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go back where he was here before you shadowfetus

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOOOOO IT'S TOO COMPLEX-- I MEAN UHH... I MEAN JANKY YEAH IT'S TOO JANKY

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The theme of the expansion affects almost none of the content beyond the dungeons. The 8 and 24 man raids thematically have nothing to do with the New World. Eureka didnt with Stormblood, Bozja didnt with SHB. The V&C content and DD content is completely isolated. So is the new space adventure stuff. And you're already bashing job design without even seeing what they do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ??? what does any of that have to do with "the dungeons and alliance raids were boring"
                >you're already bashing job design without even seeing what they do
                ah, you must be new here

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mechanically the Nier raids were harder and more fun than previous 24 man series, outside of maybe Cid. The people bashing Nier only disliked it on concept and not actually on mechanics.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >harder
                bullet hells aren't hard, they just make the netcode shit itself
                >more fun
                debatable at best, bosses had WAY too much hp and no real phases to make up for that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nier was not harder than Ivalice, every mechanic in every raid was easy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If people cant even put into words what they want, they shouldnt complain. Having a foray helps a lot. A foray plus V&C (especially if they keep fine tuning them) plus space exploration diadem+ishgard AND more DD is a ton of content.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The lack of a Foray is the biggest issue for EW obviously, an optional long form grind is a perfect way to get people who want something to do to do something. A lot of complaints though are how there are only X amount of fights for each raid tier or there are only X ultimates per patch. Raidloggers are not gonna go and do Eureka.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There should be a 144 player instance dedicated exclusively to bashing the skulls of frogposters in.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ywn get to play a giga instance of 100+ players fighting a boss that takes 35 minutes to kill on a good day
        Feels bad man. God bless Eureka, I miss grinding senselessly in MMOs.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about your wow streamers

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    unironically where did the DT hype go?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      toilet

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >highest preorder count in 14's history
      >no hype

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unironically where did the DT hype go?
      In my pants

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who only recently got back into FFXIV, Endwalker wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. It definitely had its low points but the highs were decently high.
    It wasn't as good as Shadowbringers but it's the falling action after the climax, it's not as bad as Stormblood so it makes the landing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >story only gay opinion

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it is a pretty decent chunk of the game unless you're a skipgay who's just there to get bigger number in the postgame. Judging the expansions solely by their postgames isn't exactly the ideal metric either.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The MSQ takes up a tiny portion of your playtime unless you're one of those weirdos who treat it literally like a JRPG and unsub after finishing the MSQ which is incredibly niche.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >niche
            as opposed to raiding? which is what's actually niche

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like people mainly stay long enough at least for the first alliance raid to drop and then start dropping like flies.

            I thought it was just my fc but apparently the dead fc experience is common and most of the playerbase are newer players still doing the msq.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Motherfricker it's a story game that happens to be attached to an mmo. There should be unskippable checkpoints that ask questions people who are paying attention could answer easily and if you get any wrong you're sent back to the start of the story

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          SB was the last time the story was good
          >He actually like XIV turning into muh ancient homosexualry

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >lets devote an entire expansion to wrapping up plot threads 90% of our playerbase didn't experience because its from 1.0

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Skill issue

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >story only friend opinion

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do some post game stuff, not hardcore enough for stuff like Savage Raids but I usually do the Alliance and Normal Raid series. I think that judging the story and the postgame as separate things is better than lumping them together, especially when half of ARR's slog was because of all the godforsaken post patch quests. Ivalice was definitely the best Alliance Raid, but I still have a soft spot for Alexander with the normal series. Worst Alliance Raid by far is Void Ark, hard to really determine a worst Normal though, most of them are pretty even and Coil shouldn't even be considered the same as the rest imo. Maybe my opinions there will change after I sit down and do EW's post game content but for now I can only really consider what I've played so far.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every expansion is only it's X.0 MSQ, yes. Adjusting your rating of an expansion while content is drip fed over the next two years is a moronic mindset. You are far better off rating the content that comes out later on it's own individual merits rather than trying to lump it in with the expac as a whole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think for the most part endwalker will be well-recieved by the people that left after finishing the msq and will be coming back to do the post game msq and pandaemonium.

      The main complaints have been variant/criterion dungeons, island sanctuaries and manderville weapons which have all largely been disappointment upon disappointment. If you don't care about that stuff and just get to the story it's pretty good even if the ending to the post game msq didn't end up amounting to much.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > The main complaints have been variant/criterion dungeons, island sanctuaries and manderville weapons which have all largely been disappointment upon disappointment.
        There are people who don’t like Island Sanctuary?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are people who like Island Sanctuary?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          of course it's a lalafell who posts this seeing as they are literal potatoes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          IS is unironically a slog if you engage with it beyond setting up your timers and leaving? Doing circuits for materials is torturous, and its something that could easily be rectified by just increasing the gather rate per node 5x.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Islamic State was such a flop that they're not making a direct continuation to it in Dawntrail.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            underrated

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >want to use the free fanta to hange to lala
    >don‘t feel like spending money to change to an appropriate name
    What do

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venat!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      shotaprostitute

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Momodi

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Genocide Mommy
      Glad she's super-dead.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >there are people who are STILL arguing that what she did was wrong
      motherfrickers couldn't walk

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally she had the choice of just letting the world end or doing something about it to give the universe another chance. I don't understand why anyone with the will to live would ever choose the former.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >1.0 herman is still shitposting
    Barry, Trancers, Pablo
    How come these threads are plagued with schizoids?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How come these threads are plagued with schizoids?
      Because you keep giving them attention, you moronic hylic. Internet has existed for 30+ years and you dipshits STILL can't figure out how to rid yourself of trolls and morons lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        morons unironically think if they don't argue with the shitposters, the shitposters win. In reality, feeding the trolls ensures they will never go away.
        But I've seen many shitposters give up completely after a thread refuses to give them any (You)s. If people could simply contain themselves from trying to get an "epic dunk".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The zoomers come here for MMO wars anon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot the main character

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nathan is not real, he will never be real. You are being trolled moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1) worlo bred a very unique type of crazy that is now associated with MMOs in general
      2) they get attention
      3) ur mom lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Schizos in ff14 thread
        >ITS WOWS FAULT
        I think we have our answer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >i pay literally no attention to worlo warcar or any mmo in general and haven't for the past twenty years
          yeah we know, bubble boy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >WoW raped my mmo!
            Many such cases

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The extra poligons on Viera chins and jaws make my old WoL look better. I'm tempted to go back but then miera 's only have a handful of haircuts that don't give me an uncanny feeling for not having ears on the sides of my skull.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick does it look like a man and a woman at the same time?
      Insane

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        c**tboy

        >subscribe in the past
        >cant play free trial expansions anymore
        >no desire to pay months and months to trudge through slowly
        frick you square

        make a different free trial account

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's called bishounen you swine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's called couchon

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >subscribe in the past
    >cant play free trial expansions anymore
    >no desire to pay months and months to trudge through slowly
    frick you square

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PLAY *clap*
      OTHER *clap*
      GAMES *clap*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How far were you in the game?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ive been sat at the Stormblood prepatch questline for a year+

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m about to play through Realm Reborn for the third time because I forgot my old password again. This time I will finally make it to Shadowbringers. This better be fricking worth it or I’m gonna come back and make hate threads about the game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good luck, I couldn't even get out of the main city, it was that boring

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just type your password here moron, I'll remind you if you forget it again

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you not have your email tied to your account? Forgot password has an entire recovery system. Contact support if you want your old account back.

      Good luck, I couldn't even get out of the main city, it was that boring

      Bait or adhd brain rot, either way kek at the state of (You)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I felt my brain rot while trying to play this boring 'game'. Sorry if that offends you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will drop it by the end of HW, 100% guaranteed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > This time I will finally make it to Shadowbringers.

      Get a job, Chancho. If you don’t like it by mid HW quit, it doesn’t get better

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ah I see we're about to enter the HW Job Design discussion time loop phase.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any reason to sub now instead of waiting for the expansion release?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bunch of events are about to start running concurrently in a few weeks. Yokai event is ongoing now. If you like cosmetics its a good time.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >overrated story
    >dungeons are all basic as shit
    >adds 2 cities that fricking suck
    >continuing the shit zone design that started from HW and hasn't stop since
    >started the sloppening of all jobs and making them all basic as frick instead of unique and interesting

    Shadowbringers is easily the 2nd worst expansion with every expansion being worse and worse in terms of MMO design for the low-to mid level players. Pic is a random screenshot I took from when the game was just ARR.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The UI is terrible, looks like that old warhammer mmo (which was actually fun unlike this crap)

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm excited for Dawntrail.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Shadowtourists seethe so hard about Heavensward?
    It was far from a perfect expansion, but none of these people were there to experience either the good or the bad. They just get unreasonably angry about it for some reason.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cult-like behavior

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was some youtuber a few months ago who made a video about how Endwalker is actually fine because Heavensward was the worst expansion ever. So all the shadowbabs and endfetuses latched onto that. You can pinpoint them by waiting for them to say something like "Gordias literally almost killed the game a second time!"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you are not allowed to have certain opinions because a youtuber said them
        if a youtuber said you need to breathe to live would you start holding your breath?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know you're just copying what a youtuber said because you all started repeating it after someone posted the link to the video in these threads, and always the same handful of lines.
          >Gordias almost killed the game a second time!
          >3.1 almost killed the game a second time!
          >Diadem almost killed the game a second time!
          You're just using canned phrases. It's not hard to notice you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Gordias almost killed the game a second time!
            >3.1 almost killed the game a second time!
            >Diadem almost killed the game a second time!
            and you still have no argument to these. maybe if you say "a youtuber said it!" a few more times the objective criticism will go away

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Literally none of these things got even close to "killing the game a second time". Also pretty much all of this is concentrated in the 3.0-3.1 patch cycle. It's noticeable that you gays didn't play Heavensward because you never mention any of the parts of the Heavensward patch cycle during which the playerbase was mostly happy. Nary a peep about how well-received 3.2 was, nothing to say about the wild misadventures in Weeping City. Hell, you're not even aware of the minor controversy surrounding putting Proto-Ultima as a tacked-on miniboss in Dun Scaith, because you didn't play the expansion!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Heavensward out of nowhere
        >again

        >call HW ass
        >it's actually a popular contrarian stance
        I swear I didn't know before I said my piece

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        HW was bad outside of the MSQ. It has less content. It was very imbalanced. It lacked a ton of logical modern QoL. The problem with discussing XIV is a lot of people base their opinions of expansions purely on the MSQ which I find to be crazy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          HW was an upgrade to ARR in every way. It's only bad if you compare it to what came after, which is unfair. On the other hand, EW is bad compared to what came before it. It lacks in every single way compared to SB and ShB.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            EW has male viera, SB and ShB don't. Simple as.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            A foray is not better than V&C, its a sidegrade. The mistake was simply not forcing people to do it for the relic.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              well when you force people to do it they threaten to commit suicide and generally shit themselves in the threads (remember all the bozja whining?)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >A foray is not better than V&C, its a sidegrade.
              Forays have a wider spread of content types, and allow for more casual drop-in/drop-out playing so you can go stop and get a drink of water or something. Variant and savage criterions are also one and done. Only the normal criterions have any replayability, and that's until you get the 25 clears for the mount, which is about as much replayability as an EX.
              Forays also have alternate progression systems and lost actions which let you change up your playstyle. Bozja also came with an extra set of alliance raids.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So what you're saying is they need the action system in V&C this time too. I think V&C would be fun if randomly in each run powerups would drop.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That would be something, yeah.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was some youtuber a few months ago who made a video about how Endwalker is actually fine because Heavensward was the worst expansion ever. So all the shadowbabs and endfetuses latched onto that. You can pinpoint them by waiting for them to say something like "Gordias literally almost killed the game a second time!"

      ARR actually makes some shadowbabs seethe even harder because they don't have a single pre-baked Youtuber talking point to talk shit on it, and any time they try to talk about it they reveal they have no idea about what level 50 rotations or combat were like when 50 was the level cap.
      If you say you liked anything about ARR at least one schizo will accuse you of lying about having played it (even though SE's recent survey shows a substantial percentage of the playerbase are ARR vets).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        and I've been playing since 1.0, so you know I'm trustworthy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Immediately replies with veiled seethe implying that nobody played ARR.
          Look at the survey Yoshida showed last live letter and cease your pathetic weeping, WORM.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >survey
            Link? I'd like to see. Was it formatted like an infographic? I'd love to see a breakdown of the preferences/statistics regarding XIV players.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, this one couldn't help but instantly prove you right

        and I've been playing since 1.0, so you know I'm trustworthy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ARR still has had the best dungeons in the series, just bogged down by the terrible questing from the MSQ (which still continues on for every expansion btw, the main story quests never ever get any better unless you're gifted or bestowed on a duty quest which happens very rarely)

        ARR dungeons had things like a DPS check on a trash mob, an escort mission to keep an npc tank from trash mobs (was suppose to teach players about enmity before they removed it all making tanks brain dead to play)

        I really can't believe these shb morons gaslit the entire MMO space saying their expansion was the greatest thing on earth when it came out.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's a point where contrarianism goes too far. it's fine to say that ARR is pretty good (it is) while also acknowledging the fact that Shadowbringers is probably one of the most beloved and best mmo expansions of all time, up there with wrath of the lich king

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            None of the dungeons have ANYTHING interesting going on compared to ARR dungeons pre-dumbed down. This is an indisputable fact. ARR dungeons had actual mechanics you had to do in them to progress, All SHB dungeons are pick up mobs - aoe - boss - pick up mobs - aoe - boss

            repeat this for every single dungeon. Literally nothing else going on in the dungeons at all from a gameplay perspective.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Theres a reason. Nobody liked doing that. I dont wanna solve a fricking puzzle every time I do a daily roulette.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody liked
                wrong its because the easier and more accessible they made the game the more morons who couldnt do the mechanics joined so they had to make the dungeons easier to compensate

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Catering a game to a niche audience of hardcore players is not good design, not just a bad financial choice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then dont do the daily roulette and let the new players actually have fun dungeons that are unique instead of being boring. This is why FF14 will ultimately die. They have worsen the new player experience to appease twats like you who just want the brain dead dungeon experience just so they can get their shitty reward faster.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're supposed to design content around being fun when done many, many times in a MMO not just the first time. The uniqueness of a puzzle loses its impact after you run it once and you will be encouraged to run it a lot in this genre. Also FFXIV is only growing. Thirdly, they just overhauled the new player experience by making all the MSQ dungeons better THROUGH COMBAT changes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So instead of being fun for the first couple of times its now fun none of the time. No one ever talks about how good the dungeons are in any discussion of FF14, they only talk about story bits, cutscenes, raids, savages

                but you never hear anyone talk about dungeons ever unless someone like me brings them up and complains about them. Then people like you come out of the woodwork like rats trying to say otherwise

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ARR dungeons were not any more fun than modern dungeons for their few gimmicks. Its not riveting to go push some levers to open a door. Its not 'fun' to pick up a key from an enemy for the door 10 feet away.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              thats very reductive. that's like saying raids are horrible because its just one boss and you repeat that 12 times. its not true at all

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I already stated how dungeons were before here

                ARR still has had the best dungeons in the series, just bogged down by the terrible questing from the MSQ (which still continues on for every expansion btw, the main story quests never ever get any better unless you're gifted or bestowed on a duty quest which happens very rarely)

                ARR dungeons had things like a DPS check on a trash mob, an escort mission to keep an npc tank from trash mobs (was suppose to teach players about enmity before they removed it all making tanks brain dead to play)

                I really can't believe these shb morons gaslit the entire MMO space saying their expansion was the greatest thing on earth when it came out.

                So how am I being reductive cause thats how post ARR dungeons literally are in comparison?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                modern dungeons are more interesting because they often have more involved mechanics than their arr counterparts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pulling enemies to a designated area to open a door or escorting a goblin who used to aggro things for the tank to take over are way more interesting than picking up keys or what not I agree. I would like more of the former rather than the latter.

                Says modern dungeons have more involved mechanics

                does not list a single example cause they dont

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                play any endwalker dungeon, they have more involved mechanics than.....toto-rok slime. LMAO

                >Pulling enemies to a designated area to open a door or escorting a goblin who used to aggro things for the tank to take over are way more interesting than picking up keys or what not I agree. I would like more of the former rather than the latter.
                how about we say screw it to all the pointless busywork and have bosses with fun "raid-lite" mechanics.....which is what we currently have. grow up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But do they have any mechanic other than "don't get hit by the orange" and "tankbuster"?
                Even stacks, spreads and towers are relatively rare.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                tons of bosses have stacks spreads and towers now bro

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yoshida literally said he plans to spice up mechanics this expansion and that content has gotten too sleepy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >STILL no examples
                on behalf of him i shall accept your concession
                man endwalker really sucked balls in terms of casual content huh
                dungeons were shit, alliance raids were shit, island was shit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ignores examples
                >STILL no examples huh? heheh
                do you post on the OF by chance?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                your examples are boss content, not dungeon content, making it completely invalid and your argument a waste of time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bosses are not part of dungeons now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                okay name a dungeon boss will complex mechs. saying bosses have stacks and towers is disingenuous because bosses can be applied to raid as well.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                "any endwalker dungeon" is not an example by any measure of the word

                >I refuted this with these counter claims.
                Your counter claim was "I can imagine that all those threads were samegayged so they don't count." There's no argument to be had there. It's like you trying to prove to me that the Earth is round and I say that any proof you can give me is fake because scientists and NASA are liars. There's no argument to be had there.
                So what are the dates on these posts? Can you answer or do you concede?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

                But what are the dates on these posts?
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
                https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

                Trying too hard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bosses are not dungeon level design yes, they're boss design. A shit dungeon can have a good boss, but that still makes the dungeon itself shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A good dungeon is defined by its bosses and visuals. Not by how many puzzles it has between them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That is the most moronic statement I have ever heard in my life lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                dungeons across any mmo work way better as setpieces and gimmicks than they do "the dungeoning experience"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                genuinely moronic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why is Blackrock Depths considered the greatest MMO dungeon of all time?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                isn't that the one where people learned to skip 60% of it for being irrelevant

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                "any endwalker dungeon" is not an example by any measure of the word

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok here are some examples

                Dungeon Level IL Req IL Sync Roulette Loot IL Tomestones Unlock Duty Support available
                The Tower of Zot 81 500 - Leveling 520 - Main Scenario QuestIn the Dark of the Tower Yes
                The Tower of Babil 83 505 - Leveling 530 - Main Scenario QuestGateway of the Gods Yes
                Vanaspati 85 510 - Leveling 536 - Main Scenario QuestSkies Aflame Yes
                Ktisis Hyperboreia 87 515 - Leveling 542 - Main Scenario QuestCaging the Messenger Yes
                The Aitiascope 89 520 550 Leveling 548 - Main Scenario QuestHer Children, One and All Yes
                The Dead Ends 90 540 570 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Main Scenario QuestEndwalker Yes
                Smileton 90 540 600 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Feature QuestCutting the Cheese No
                The Stigma Dreamscape 90 540 600 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Feature QuestWhere No Loporrit Has Gone Before No
                Alzadaal's Legacy 90 560 600 Level 90 575 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Main Scenario QuestAlzadaal's Legacy Yes
                The Fell Court of Troia 90 575 630 Level 90 595 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 60 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 30 Main Scenario QuestIn Search of Azdaja Yes
                Lapis Manalis 90 590 630 Level 90 605 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 80 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 50 Main Scenario QuestKing of the Mountain Yes
                The Aetherfont 90 605 - Expert 625 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 80 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 50 Main Scenario QuestGoing Haam Yes
                The Lunar Subterrane
                there

                okay name a dungeon boss will complex mechs. saying bosses have stacks and towers is disingenuous because bosses can be applied to raid as well.

                magus sisters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i want to hear which dungeon mechanics in these dungeons are superior to arr dungeon design
                >bosses
                of course they'll be better designed compared to those from A DECADE AGO
                i'm asking about THE DUNGEONS

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bosses are a part of the dungeon moron
                >whats 2 + 2? And no, don't say 4

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bosses are an extremely minor segment of the dungeon
                making 1 okay part and 5 shit parts does not a good dungeon make
                still missing those examples by the way

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh, so you don't play the game? got it.
                >still missing those examples by the way
                refer to

                ok here are some examples

                Dungeon Level IL Req IL Sync Roulette Loot IL Tomestones Unlock Duty Support available
                The Tower of Zot 81 500 - Leveling 520 - Main Scenario QuestIn the Dark of the Tower Yes
                The Tower of Babil 83 505 - Leveling 530 - Main Scenario QuestGateway of the Gods Yes
                Vanaspati 85 510 - Leveling 536 - Main Scenario QuestSkies Aflame Yes
                Ktisis Hyperboreia 87 515 - Leveling 542 - Main Scenario QuestCaging the Messenger Yes
                The Aitiascope 89 520 550 Leveling 548 - Main Scenario QuestHer Children, One and All Yes
                The Dead Ends 90 540 570 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Main Scenario QuestEndwalker Yes
                Smileton 90 540 600 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Feature QuestCutting the Cheese No
                The Stigma Dreamscape 90 540 600 Level 90 560 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Feature QuestWhere No Loporrit Has Gone Before No
                Alzadaal's Legacy 90 560 600 Level 90 575 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 50 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 20 Main Scenario QuestAlzadaal's Legacy Yes
                The Fell Court of Troia 90 575 630 Level 90 595 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 60 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 30 Main Scenario QuestIn Search of Azdaja Yes
                Lapis Manalis 90 590 630 Level 90 605 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 80 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 50 Main Scenario QuestKing of the Mountain Yes
                The Aetherfont 90 605 - Expert 625 Allagan Tomestone of Causality 80 Allagan Tomestone of Comedy 50 Main Scenario QuestGoing Haam Yes
                The Lunar Subterrane
                there

                [...]
                magus sisters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I cant tell you but I feel you are wrong.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Magus Sisters
                They're barely trial tier unless you think having to move around the arena to dodge telegraphed aoes is involved and complex.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >every piece of content should be ultimate difficulty

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ultimate are PEAK let things resolve

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post clear logs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                play a different game then

                [...]
                I am deadass, they're not hard at all unless you think dodging telegraphed aoes is hard

                no one said they are hard. they said they are interesting

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only interesting fight in Zot is the last one because its a threesome

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                christ, just say "stand and let thing resolve" and pretend it's a critique, i'm begging you

                I am deadass, they're not hard at all unless you think dodging telegraphed aoes is hard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                christ, just say "stand and let thing resolve" and pretend it's a critique, i'm begging you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that is the majority of this game you dont even need to move for magus sisters saying magus sister is hard proves you are a dogshit player

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's the majority of any mmo you donut

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >saying magus sister is hard proves you are a dogshit player
                good thing no one said that!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cope wall to wall pulls are way better than having to follow some stupid goblin around or solve a puzzle to get to the next stage in the dungeon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                examples? I can't think of anything an EW dungeon does that's mechanically more involved than an ARR dungeon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                magus sisters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >intermission phase where the game just unloads aoes on you
                >think the entire expansion will have hectic fights like this for the standard dungeons/raids
                >they don't

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              heh, remember when patrols were actually dangerous?
              I rember

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shadowbringers was straight up a substantial downgrade from Stormblood. The only thing ShB did better was the new forms of combat they added to forays (duels, critical engagements, mini-raids), and even then, ShB forays had utterly hideous maps for some reason.
          It had a better MSQ than usual but that's it, ShB is an extremely overrated expansion. It's carried almost entirely by Emet-Selch.

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its over Ganker.
    The official opinion has dropped.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll give it a watch, he's definitely more reliable than Zepla given that he does both story and can high end raid consistently to the point of producing guides.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, so its euros shitting up this board on a daily basis?

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Heavensward out of nowhere
    >again

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sisters, the devs and NPCs are my actual friends.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is a sward?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Heavensward.

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to ERP as a lalafell, go male
    >but that’s gay!
    anon…..

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started during mid-HW but didn't even get to HW until probably late-HW patches since I was enjoying ARR so much. Progging Titan EX at level 50 on PS4 is something I will never forget.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >heh, wait till they find out they have to actually play the game to get to endgame instead of just buying a boost. The fools.

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The best time I had in this game is still pugging Eden savage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same the whole theme surrounding Eden was kino. The OST was bussin' the fighters were fun. Panda savage was so uninspiring it alone killed my love I had for the game.

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The 'people' who hated Island Sanctuary:
    >Mindlessly grinded or botted all items to 9999
    >Botted their exp for every level instead of natural progression
    >Use Reddit, discords or plugins to automatically tell them the minmax perfect order list each week
    >Used the soulless auto petting, auto gathering robots
    >Didn't bother decorating their island because it doesn't provide any intrinsic statistical power benefit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's really no excuse for the implementation of the base gameplay loop in island sanctuary. It really was just a test bed for future potential content and now that we are getting Diadem 2 (5) it becomes far more evident.

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Strawman
    I accept your concession

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The 'people' who hated Island Sanctuary:
    >Are the majority of the playerbase
    >Got Yoshida to not make Island Sanctuary 2
    >Won

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't he say they were still adding content? Or did I dream that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        SE doesn't add content. They replace content

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He said the current one is getting one update in 7.0 and that's it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Which will most likely nerf everything which is why I am so glad i didn't do that boring slog.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yoshida adds forays
      heh, just pandering to the majority of the playerbase, we won!
      >yoshida adds social shit and modern glams to appeal the actual majority
      NOOOO STOP PANDERING TO THOSE SECOND LIFE PLEBS THEY SHOULD PANDER TO MY MINORITY

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >island sanctuary
        >social
        yeah i go on Ganker to lie all the time

        Here, let me help you out. Let's look at my original post. [...]
        >There was, however, a gigantic influx at the end of it when the WoWrats all flooded in at the same time and Yoshida suddenly started scrambling to buy new servers and get new data centers set up. I wonder why he wasn't doing that at the beginning of ShB? Maybe because those ads weren't as effective as you think?
        Wow, crazy. That's like... what I've been trying to get you to talk about this whole time. That point you're refusing to acknowledge and saying I'm trying to brute force in because you can't actually answer it. Wow! Anon, are you being dishonest? Are you actually this pathetic that you have to act like a sniveling worm homosexual like this to save face on an anonymous image board?

        I'll ask again, what are the dates of these posts?
        https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2
        https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/ba568754f4b85880aa3a54d5b58770318d7ad731

        this pussy

        Mindbroken by the way, you will never be an even competent debater.

        doesn't want to give a (You) to you because you broke him, honestly woman behavioir.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're literally removing Island Sanctuary after a single expansion because even the casuals hated it. You lost Island troony.

          just don't complain when most of 7.0's updates consist of modern trans glam and cutsey emotes, because yoshida has learned what the ACTUAL majority of his game wants

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Endwalker is full of high fantasy armor. There's, in fact, more fantasy armor in Endwalker than there's modern glams.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              wow, doomposters were wrong again, who coulda thunk...

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you exclusively wear level 1 sets moron? Most tomestone, raid and dungeon gear in Endwalker is standard fantasy fare.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most tomestone, raid and dungeon gear in Shadowbringers was standard fantasy fare.
                Your point?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that your moronic screeching that all glams in Dawntrail will be modern-themed is baseless garbage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm NTA who said that
                take your meds

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're literally removing Island Sanctuary after a single expansion because even the casuals hated it. You lost Island troony.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He never planned to make a second thing of the same type, that would be silly. He also said if theres demand they will keep updating it.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hide lalafell posters
    Ignore lalafell posters
    Do not respond to lalafell posters

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is the warrior inner beast an actual distinct entity the way dragoons work, or is it just some using 100% of your bodys strength mindless berserker thing - the actual dialog in the warrior quests seems to imply one or the other from scene to scene and I dunno if they just kinda bungled something in the english text or its deliberately vauge

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just your innate animal instincts. Hellsguard magic coaxes it out and enhances it which gives you a sort of second personality that just runs off pure instinct.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's letting your aether run wild, which has a bad habit of turning people into bloodthirsty killers
        so it is kind of like an outside force controlling the person in the same way that meth makes people do crazy shit, but it's not an actual entity

        I see, ty. stuff like this makes derplander a pretty compelling character when you piece the "canon" stuff together. he went from dealing with this inner beast shit to dealing with an inner dragon, no wonder you go full schizo with the drk questline

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a seasonal player, and seeing the change to Inner Release/Delirium hurt me more than anything else. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HAVING SPAMMABLE MOVES.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        spammable moves are boring

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I liked having to meet a skill speed benchmark to mash my single DPS skill though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's letting your aether run wild, which has a bad habit of turning people into bloodthirsty killers
      so it is kind of like an outside force controlling the person in the same way that meth makes people do crazy shit, but it's not an actual entity

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dropping moogle poms is funny I dont know why people are upset over it

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    remember when warriors would piss, shit and cry if you didn't cleanse their pacify? good times

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So glad they removed that what a pointless mechanic that was unfun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they actually translated a D&D mechanic into an MMO? Why?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon... MMOs were online D&D from the start.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss things like this. Tank stance lowering damage output, cleric stance dancing, paladins having flash, which did no damage but had a high enmity yield plus blind. Frick the whiners, it made the game interesting which it absolutely is not right now.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The game as it is right now is a good example of devs going a little too far down the "convenience" slippery slope. Sometimes things being difficult or tedious for players is a good thing, otherwise it's all too bland

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they actually translated a D&D mechanic into an MMO? Why?

      it would be a decent idea to balance off a big damage buff cooldown on a tank class if this wasn't a game that also has tight enrages that mean the tanks need to contribute damage on the regular. meaning that instead of berserk being "that thing you hit to get a bit of extra damage when you don't care about the pacify drawback because the thing died" and made it "the thing you hit on cooldown while hoping your healer doesn't grief you

      it took the devs a while to understand that this isn't the same sort of game as ff11, where OG berserk would've been an ok move that still isn't used that often

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's kind of the issue, you have skills with the assumption that you need to use ALL of them on cooldown in some way, they removed the vast majority of situational moves

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          because the situational moves only exist because the devs didn't realize the sort of game they were actually making and thought they were making ff11 2.0

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How hard is the Another version of the Criterions? EX difficulty? I know Savage apparently you have to do in one run or else it completely resets, which just sounds like wiener and ball torture.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're somewhere between EX and early savage floors. Mechanics can be very rapid fire and Rokkon and Aloalo have some very quick adjusting you have to do. The savage ones are ultimate level.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Regular Criterion is Savage raid difficulty.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      EX or early savage floors. So not too bad, but a majority of the players will be unable to comprehend it.

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they literally made ARR harder for newcomers btw. 1v1 cape westwind is more complicated mechanics wise then thordan normal now and rebalanced enemy/boss stats so 130 tomestone gear doesn't completely skullfrick everything means pulls are more complicated to deal with then they have been since 2.x (when the meta was to literally run past most pulls because activating the boss made them stop chasing you and let everyone warp into the boss room)

    t made an alt to play through arr for the first time in many years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I still need to do the reworked Rhitanyan fight.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I still need to do the reworked Rhitanyan fight.

      >all of prae is 4man now meaning you have to beat ARR to get 8 man content. the end of the ultima weapon fight has your LB fill up to lb3 anyway to take him down before ultima dies (also elevator gaius/ultima don't go down in 2 seconds and have a bunch of crazy new moves)
      >rhitanyan gets back up in rage from you killing his men despite being defeated, holmgangs you into a fricking fire and has a slugfest before he ends up burning himself to death
      >thancred-lahabrea has a very typical "blow up these orbs before I fill the meter and kill you" mechanic except because its a 1v1 its impossible to do enough damage to break all the orbs in time, causing him to fricking blow you up only for hyedaelyn to revive you with the blessing of light so you can then stand back up with literally tripple normal damage and finish him off as he teaches you about overlapping aoes

      people will tell you that collecting photocells, iroinc cape westwind waymarkers and luvia being a shitty turret boss while bored mentors make shitty jokes the entire time is a better first time experience for sprouts then cool stuff like this that actually teaches you mechanics and ties story/gameplay together in a cool way

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stormblood was the last expac with TP and it turned ranged classes into RANGED classes so I like it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TP would filter the current dogshit playerbase so hard.

  89. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    still the best minion
    >100% anatomically accurate

  90. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any jobs you want to get into but just can't?
    I really like bard's aesthetic, weapons, and being a "support dps" is really cool....but using songs just doesn't feel satisfying or meaningful. it always feels like im waiting for the part in the rotation where im having fun....and it never comes
    also meteor should be a bard tbh it suits him

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest issue with the songs is that while nice to have these little buffs throughout the fight, they aren't exactly impactful enough to feel like you did something cool.

  91. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is stormblood rly that good, I kinda need extra motivation tonpower through hw atm
    I just killed Thordan and quests are fricking shit now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the actual conclusion of HW is in the post thordan stuff

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      stormblood by far has the worst story, but fun content

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't like what you're doing now, you'd be better off quitting and saving yourself some time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What youre experiencing now is the rest of the game.

        This

        FF14 ultimately sucks ass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What youre experiencing now is the rest of the game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      part of the reason why stormblood has such a bad reputation is that lyse and alisaie have fricking horrid english voice acting and they essentially take most of the msq hostage

  92. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The next thread will be Stormblood.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      big if true

  93. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    expansion generation wars are for dipshits and epic oldgay wannabes

  94. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yda deserved better

  95. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  96. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone tell me what is the obsession with those two links that autist keeps posting. QRD?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      his argument hinges completely on his supposition supported by those two links and he doesn't want to look silly on an anonymous imageboard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barry is angry he tried using "Ganker posts" as proof that asmongold carried EW expansion numbers and is now trying to use yoshida news letters as somehow proof asmon drove a million+ players to the game.
      Genuinely moron tier argumentation.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But asmongold did boost this games player count that is unequivocal fact.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Basically anon said that the ShB player increase happened at the beginning of the expansion and was due to Spiderman ads. The links to the news posts three years after the fact prove him wrong, but he doesn't want to address them and instead keeps screaming about Barry.

  97. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont want puzzles I just want complexity. I want stuff like BRD in WoW. Dungeons that are as big as cities with tons of floors, layers, paths to choose from. Maybe they could add in things like DD traps to dungeons but not invisible.

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