>yeah bro I would be vampire, I would just eat bad people, blend in and chill
Do people forget becoming a vampire literally TURNS you evil?
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>yeah bro I would be vampire, I would just eat bad people, blend in and chill
give me that scroll you stupid prostitute
>obeying your nature is le evil
>morals are... le relative
i want every newbie christcuck election tourist on this board to an hero themselves
They will start anheroing themselves en masse once midlife crisis will get them and they'll realize that religious larp doesn't save them from the creeping fear of their mortality. It's going to be amazing.
This, tradcath shit is just the new atheism they’re basically fedora tippers except they’re doing actual harm.
This is an extreme cope from millennials who keep trying to find meaning in cartoons and super hero movies.
It’s really not, just because you say you’re trad doesn’t mean you are and all the gay shit you rant about only makes other Christians look bad by association. You’re not a holy warrior or a crusader you’re a child that listened to too much Powerwolf and Sabaton in middle school
No, I find meaning in adhering to principles of living that I deem to be "right" and "correct" and I experience pleasure when I hold myself to those standards. Protip: don't be a spineless cuck that projects his own moral failings on everyone else.
same meaningless arguments over and over from christless losers
i dont know why they always try justifying it with arguments that don't make sense and show they have zero understanding of the subject
would you listen to a scientist who has no scientific understanding? no? then shut the frick up lmao. same as how nobody needs to listen to your commentary on christianity when your knowledge of it is as deep as a puddle.
as opposed to trying to find meaning in a single book?
life is pointless, do what you wish, you are free and only you are stopping yourself from leaving, just like me.
They are. What isn't, are ethics. Those are universal.
Christ is king, homosexual.
>obeying your evil nature is le evil
yes
Vampires are unnatural
Then why do you hate pedophiles?
Isn't this a Christian message? Your body is sinful by default
No, you're supposed to obey God in spite of your inner desire to sin. Obeying your nature is satanism.
The implication with Christianity is that you're meant to turn your heart and soul over to God, and His guidance will lead you away from sin whilst Jesus' sacrifice absolves you of sin so long as you continue to give yourself to God. Satanism is all about pursuing personal comfort and desire, rooted in the belief that material fulfilment is what is good and that personal sacrifice for other is evil. Basically, inverting Christian morality.
yes. rape is morally correct just because im horny.
>Do people forget becoming a vampire literally TURNS you evil?
Did you forget vampires aren't real and thus can be whatever rules you want them to be?
this
vampires are immune to the sun and must drink exclusively urine to survive
>vampires are immune to the sun
Correct. I'm sick of Hollywood shit being mistaken for actual vampire lore.
>Hollywood
It originates in Dracula, a book written by a bong in the 19th century.
Actually he was Irish. Also he didnt die from the sun. Also also vampires did not start with Dracula and are from folklore.
>Irish
That's what I said.
>he didn't die from the sun
That's literally the climax of the story. The woman tricks Dracula into staying out until sunrise, using herself as bait. The sun hits him and he dissolves into ash.
And I know vampires predate Dracula, we're talking about the origin of 'the sun kills them'.
That’s the movie you fricking moron. There’s literally multiple scenes in the book where Dracula is just walking about in the day light
Vampires do not die from sunlight in Dracula, it doesn't even hurt them. Nosferatu is the first instance of it being actually hazardous.
That literally doesn't happen in Dracula, he's stabbed in the heart and decapitated and it happens as the sun is setting.
Ah. I watched Nosferatu (both the original and the Herzog remake) back to back with the Bela Lugosi Dracula, and got them mixed up
>implying I can read
the thought of a piss vampire is incredibly amusing to me
Talking about elder scrolls. But IRL vampires, if they're to be called that, would have no soul or humanity and thus lacking what we consider to constitute that: empathy and moral rationale. So a vampire is inherently evil
>IRL vampires
>in real life
>vampires
>D-Dracula wasn't r-real
>sh-shutup!
psychotic girls are real and scarier than fiction, anon.
Masquerade breach
I identify myself as a vampire, please respect me.
I'll get banned, but Vampires are unironically based off (Eastern/South Slavic) stereotypes of israelites, at least the "pop culture" almalgamated Vampire, you could argue that the most basic original dhampir was just the standard corporeal undead type creature (not sure if these even consumed human flesh or drank blood)
The "original" Vampire even literally has an unquenchable compulsion to count spilled shekels
>he doesn't know
wake up anon...
Now post 2023. He's old, the joke can end.
Exactly
>he doesn't know
Check out blood libel, you'll see real vampires.
Witches, demons, vampires, ogres they are all real, they come from one group of "people".
MASQUERADE VIOLATION
Anon, I know you're still up you homosexual. Get out there RIGHT NOW and bang some Malkavian chicks.
Prove the existence of soul, cuck.
I have one and you don't
I have one and you don't
So you agree the soul exists then
No, I was just holding up a mirror to your face and mocking you. Since you're a cretin that believes in fairytales, the notion eluded you entirely.
Can't speak for the soul, but since you're a frogposter- you have outed yourself as fricking moronic.
With that logic they wouldn't be evil just like a lion isn't evil for following its instincts. You can only be evil if you have the capacity for good and vice versa.
A lion doesn't have the capacity to be evil nor is a lion cruel. A vampire can understand morals but it simply is a cruel being. It's not a natural being
"Only bite bandits and raiders" isn't difficult morality to follow, anon. The fact that vampires can't even follow that basic rule and they simply must attack villages and travelers is what makes their extinction necessary.
What is your point? Vampires are more akin to the mentally ill than the mentally unable. It's not that they can't fathom morals or . Like an autistic or sociopathic person understanding empathy. They can process the concept but they can't FEEL but unlike these people Vampires also feel intense desire to kill and dominate.
A vampire could think "Hmmm I by only killing bandits I'm less likely to be hunted down" but the minute they see a lone child in their neck of the woods and they feel hungry they will literally not think twice about raping them. And in neither instance will they consider what is "moral" because it is not part of their mental tool kit
Yes good thing all us humans with souls are incapable of evil, thanks for the laugh mate.
>but they drink blood and kill people
We do that too.
they might be evil but they're not fricking stupid, it's a world where there's tribals and criminals everywhere and you not just get to kill them with no repercussions but you actually get rewarded for it, why would you want to risk a lifestyle where you get paid for doing what comes naturally?
wrong
Garbage show
>Garbage show
gay.
I hate Serana so much Gankerros
Why did the best companion in the game (in terms of combat, animations and "animations") have to be a teenage romance drama with no relationship to Skyrim?
Because threesome rape with mommy and Molag Chad
I fricked her so much she won't leave my party
I like that art and wish it wasn't some fanart of a skyrim character.
I'm going to head-canon that's actually a cool heroine of a Japanese hack n' slash action adventure game in the vein of DMC.
Vampires are only evil if you believe rape is evil
Being bitten a vampire turns you into the slave of the vampire who bit you. You lose your free will, you don't become a vampire like them. Vampires themselves are created when a person is so evil that their corpse reanimates out of pure malice and hatred. Usually they were witches or people possessed by demons in life.
People do not understand the higher realms
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
If you want to be morally good in Skyrim, you'll have to ignore at least 1/3 of the content in the game.
Just be evil and have fun, bro. 🙂
>being a vampire literally turns you evil
FRICK SKYRIM
>Janus Chadsildor
>Janus Hasselhoff
>Jannies, Here's the door
Skyrim tries so hard to write "badass" characters constantly, it's so fricking one-note and it fails miserably every time
Meanwhile Janus Hassildor is how you write a truly badass character
>"While Skingrad is threatened by an Oblivion Gate, I cannot spare any soldiers for Bruma. Whatever you may think of me, I still protect my own. This is my city, and Mehrunes Dagon will not have it while I remain Count of Skingrad.
>When asked about Skingrad at this point, the Count will demonstrate just how dedicated he is to his county: "Believe me, Mehrunes Dagon will know he was in a fight if he tries to take this city from me."
It's acceptable if they're hot though
molag bal damaged goods
Could Vampires even browse Ganker? Wouldn't they have to be invited into threads to even view shit
yeah but vampires become so Black personbrained about things that they would only browse /misc/ and /b/ and make bait threads that they don't even keep open
>to become a pureblood vampire you have to get fricked in the ass so hard by molog balls that you die from the trauma and come back as a vampire
lmao her shithole was truly remodeled.
That's hot
wasn't she like 14 or something and also got fricked by her dad while he got single-shaft-spitroasted by molag bal's giga rape wiener or did i dream that part
COME HERE MOMMY
You really have no good choices
>Become a vampire and be the b***h of Molag Bal
>Don't become a vampire and sacrifice a bit of your soul to be forever soultrapped in the Soul Cairn.
The moment you enter the Soul Cairn you lose a part of your soul one way or another.
>be Dragonborn
>pledge mortal soul to all 16 Daedra Lords
>get mortal half of my soul trapped and fed to Ideal Masters
>continue living with the dragon half
nothing personnel, kid.
>get your soul torn apart so everyone gets their piece
>everyone cues up for a piece of the dragonborn soul
>Akatosh waltz over the line with a single stride, takes the soul and leaves
literally every fan art of bethesda characters looks better than the official in-game stuff
BOOBALICIOUS
vampires are pretty chill really
>loves to dominate you
>really fit
>wealthy
In what universe would a man NOT choose the Oni?
>Video games and anime are for children
If she just berates me for them sure but if she actively keeps me from them then i'd go for neither.
she clearly has a job. Just play when she's at work or sleeping.
>Video games and anime are for children
>If she just berates me for them sure but if she actively keeps me
Hot
Oni gf ftw
gib neet vampire
Lazy vampire GF. I already have a cushy remote job to pay for everything, so as long as she's loyal I'm good being a mostly lazy piece of shit with her.
Amazonian Vampire
pls no, muh dick cant take it
Multi-size options vampire.
Seeing as the oni makes no mention of tabletop games, she's clearly the superior choice. However, being a kept man is not something to be proud of. The vampire girl is the true man's choice.
Imagine Serana's smell, imagine how putrid that sarcophagus must've been
>Do people forget becoming a vampire literally TURNS you evil?
ok?
>yeah bro I would be vampire, I would just eat bad people, blend in and chill
worked for her
Is there even an attempt at trying to explain why nobody seems to notice the bright orange vampire eyes?
It's implied she murders people, so not the most altruistic example. She also knew Venarus Vulpin was in the city and didn't report him.
I think the player sees it because of game mechanics, but canonically you shouldn't be able to see their vampiric features at all until they're blood-starved.
It's not immortal to survive, if that means I have to kill people that's ok.
>it's not immoral to survive
That's a can of worms. So if you were starving on a boat, would you consider it immoral to kill someone and eat them and thus survive?
If it would ensure one of our survivals, yeah? There are legal loopholes for cannibalism just like that, Black
There was literally a court case in the victorian era regarding this exact thing. And they stated it was more moral to die than to kill and that dire straits did not justify immoral actions
>Victorian era
Now look at modern ones
Postmodern law is not valid.
No law written after 1900 need be heeded
>yeah bro I would be vampire, I would just farm, magically regrow my penis and chill
>vampire
Lich* oops
I am evil! You old bawd.
Play a real Vampire game (if it ever comes out)
What's wrong with being evil homosexual?
>t. Raziel
Kain is CN at best.
Even so, he's still miles away from being a good guy like in OP's example.
imagine lusting after Molag Bal's corrupted sloppy seconds, I know there aren't many choices when it comes to good woman in skyrim but christ try setting the bar a little higher
Dude Hassildor is basically the most competent Count by a mile and is a vampire. TES definitely doesn't have vampirism be an auto alignment changer.
It’s ok I fixed her
>Killing people is evil
This coming from the "Legendary Hero" that has a bigger body count than the entity of the civil war.
There's nothing in Elder Scrolls that says vampirism itself makes you be evil.
Necromantic magic can start to dull a person's empathy and incline them to darker behaviors, but there's no reason a person of strong moral fiber couldn't just retain their morality due to knowing it's right, even if they don't feel it anymore. Serana herself proves that vampires with morality can exist in Tamriel.
The bandit population should tell you all you need to know on how much of a shit you should give TES worldbuilding
Who gives a frick what vampires are?
It doesn't turn you evil, it kills you. Then a demon takes over your body.
I don't give a shit about normies. I'd feed on whoever.
Speaking of Skyrim, which of the animation modding tool is more prevalent to crashes, FNIS or Nemesis? (So I can avoid it.)
Reminder that objective morality is an impossibility regardless of whether there is a God or there exists a soul
This.
Atheists are moronic to think you can have morals and still not believe in God.
Is raping a baby ever not immoral?
It's literally not. If the supreme omnipotent being declares a set morality as being objectively good, there is no arguing against it being good. In the context of the fact that he is the creator of the game, the rules within are entirely at his dictation and if he declares something good or bad, that's all there is to it.
Where do you even get the idea this is how vampires work in ES?
We've been shown more than one that behaves as off, but still relatively normal people. Being driven crazy by the need to feed after abstaining from doing so isn't necessarily a mark against their moral fiber, only what they do while in their right mind. In their right mind, they can clearly control themselves. Most of the people who become vampires fall to darker ideations because they're either inclined to that behavior in the first place or desperation and fear drives them away from people.
The in game books. Also the vampires’, including Serana, dialogue attest to changes in personality and a process to back stabbing and impulsiveness.
Yeah, like I said, a dark influence. But, like with Serana, it's clear that someone of some decent moral conscience can resist its effects.
But that could just be Sanguinare vampiris and Noxophilic sanguivoria vampirism. Other strains could forcibly change someone to be more evil.
>there's no arguing it isn't good
I disagree
elder scroll lore being a vampire its basically dealing with a really strong mental illness. You are undead and constantly hunger for blood. It is also a gods creation. Thats why if you want to remain sane you mentally reinforce yourself to treat mortals like cattle or ants.
The force that dominates at the end of the day is only evil to the qq loser.
idc about whatever gay discussion is currently going on I just wanna say that there should be a game where I get to bite women and make my own vampire harem
modded VTMB can do that, I think it's called the clan quest mod
Thanks bro I'll check it out, can't believe something like this was hiding under my nose this whole time
what are sum good vampire games?
are there any down the line coming?
how many of you have actually watched the 1922 movie?
Nosferatu? I watched it for Halloween last year, and wasn't impressed. German Expressionism is overrated, I thought the Phantom of the Opera was better.
Meanwhile in the actual game.
ftfy
Vampires ITT pls go
I'm a plague vampire where it's the result of a virus or something so crosses don't work on me srry
You will never be a real vampire. You have no undeath, you have no necromancy, you have no contract with Satan. You are a hungry human twisted by disease and infection into a crude mockery of Dracula’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your clan is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “coven” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
True vampires are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of magicks have allowed vampires to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even infected who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a vampire. Your feeding habits are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to bite some drunk guy, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected fangs.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single sundown and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a stake, grab a hammer, put it to your heart, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your coven will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with "human", and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably human.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
You think you're funny? This guy is a better man than anyone in the Dawnguard
didnt care
installed serena titty mods
then mod to kill delphine
This but titty mods for both and mods to kill both
>coal burner
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65825
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/94165
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/74975
ahem, FRICK vampires
I hope you dont install those shitty og donut steel fully voiced waifu mods
People seem to think that they can keep their morals and while there are some vampires that have only killed criminals, they still become sadistic bastards, taking pleasure in the kill. Sybille Stentor is a vampire and has only killed criminals and dedicated her undeath to helping Solitude, keeping it safe and giving counsel to the Jarl, while at the same time driving off or killing Vampires in the area.
>they still become sadistic bastards, taking pleasure in the kill.
and that's supposed to be a bad thing?
>Do people forget becoming a vampire literally TURNS you evil?
Since when? There are non-evil vampires in Skyrim and Oblivion. I guess not in Morrowind, but Morrowind is a place particulary hostile to them due to cultural reasons.
>Do people forget becoming a vampire literally TURNS you evil?
So what? Then I would just be evil
lycanthropy >>> vampirism
I assume most vampires don’t choose to become one, the ones that do are probably evil
made for giant slimy worms
Most people are already evil
'bad people' to the layman is synonymous with 'people I personally disagree with'