I'm pretty sure I beat it once. It's been a long time, and I don't remember too much. I remember getting past the jetski jumps, climbing up the snake tower, and beating that pig boss at the top of the electric tower. But I honestly don't remember the full game all that well.
I'll agree with that isn't not really worth playing through. It's more noteworthy for the graphics, sound, and jetski bullshit than having quality levels.
I've been playing on and off for 20 years, I'm up to Intruder Excluder. Once you know how to beat a level its not hard but it takes several tries as well as getting there to figure out the correct jumps. I play it for a couple of weeks then forgot about it, it one of the best games on the system. The genesis version is nice in a way but mildly worse in areas. The snes remake takes out even more content.
The boss almost appears to be naked in the final battle.
On an emulator with quicksaves and even manual frame advance. The Genesis version on Kega Fusion.
By every metric, I DID beat the game. Even if you consider that I was quickloading all the time, the fact that I had to do it so many times does not invalidate and in fact proves that I gauged the difficulty just as well as someone who has done it "legitimately".
Im every meaningful sense of the word, I beat the game and fully experienced the (artificial) difficulty and the (awful) game design.
>I simply saved time. I noticed and experienced all the patterns just the same.
You're forgetting several factors here. Learning one thing once and being able to forget it right after isn't the same thing as having to learn many things together and going through them in succession.
Savestates relieves the endurance, the stress, and liberates your mind of what was before. When you're coming to rotating tower at the end of the game, you're supposed to be weary of everything you've done so far, and afraid that any wrong jump will mean having to redo it all.
With savestates you're taking that away. This is like a test at school, stopping at each question to open your books and look up the answers; and then saying "look, I did it all just the same as someone who learnt the book and then answered all the answers correctly in succession! I've been through all the questions and all the answers!"
No, it's not the fricking same. And considering that the devs considered the warps they added to their games to be a cheat, I'm sure they would agree to this.
I beat it and it took me hours of what others would dedicate months of their lives.
All the mental gymnastics just to say "I cheated but really it doesn't count as cheating!". How old are you because you sound like you're still in kindergarten, jesus christ.
the challenge is mastering the game to a point where you can beat it with the limited lives and checkpoints the game gives you. anybody can do it by spamming quicksaves, theres no difficulty in that at all. by your logic, doing a 3 pointer in basketball 5 times out of 100 is equally hard as doing it 5 times in a row, because they both did it the same number of times ultimately. its moronic.
>the challenge is mastering the game to a point where you can beat it with the limited lives and checkpoints the game gives you. anybody can do it by spamming quicksaves, theres no difficulty in that at all.
disagree.
Rat Race was painfully difficult to time your hits on the rat to make him waste his time on like 4-6 consecutive floors. Once I got to the bottom, to that guy who sits in place, he is insanely difficult once he starts moving. I haven't bothered finishing the level.
game genie to skip levels.
Clinger Winger is unplayably difficult, even with emulation slow down and rewind.
Even with save states I couldn't beat it. I got up to the level where the ball follows you and you need to turn corners. Mess up the timing on one of them and you're screwed.
Maybe I could have beaten it with enough practice but its just not a fun game. It feels very gimiky and I would have preferred if it was just the beat em up levels
Never played it but watched a cute girl play through it on youtube, suffered through her defeats and celebrated her victories.
By every metric, I DID beat the game. Even if you consider that I was just watching the girl, the fact that we did it together does not invalidate and in fact proves that I gauged the difficulty just as well as someone who has done it "legitimately".
Im every meaningful sense of the word, I beat the game and fully experienced the (artificial) difficulty and the (awful) game design.
Not gonna waste my time with this piece of crap.
yes and its really not that hard solo, its playing with another player that makes everything 500x more difficult
Nah
I have nothing against committing to a very hard game, but it better be an excellent one, like R-Type
I'm pretty sure I beat it once. It's been a long time, and I don't remember too much. I remember getting past the jetski jumps, climbing up the snake tower, and beating that pig boss at the top of the electric tower. But I honestly don't remember the full game all that well.
I'll agree with that isn't not really worth playing through. It's more noteworthy for the graphics, sound, and jetski bullshit than having quality levels.
i didnt find rtype that hard...its only like 5 levels iirc. all ports are great though
8 levels. The first 3 are manageable, then the difficulty skyrockets
I've barely even played it OP
not my proudest fap
I've been playing on and off for 20 years, I'm up to Intruder Excluder. Once you know how to beat a level its not hard but it takes several tries as well as getting there to figure out the correct jumps. I play it for a couple of weeks then forgot about it, it one of the best games on the system. The genesis version is nice in a way but mildly worse in areas. The snes remake takes out even more content.
The boss almost appears to be naked in the final battle.
And I'll do it again
Anon's gonna give it to ya
Now do it without save states.
I've never used save states, but there's no way to prove that without coming over to your house and eating pizza rolls.
On an emulator with quicksaves and even manual frame advance. The Genesis version on Kega Fusion.
By every metric, I DID beat the game. Even if you consider that I was quickloading all the time, the fact that I had to do it so many times does not invalidate and in fact proves that I gauged the difficulty just as well as someone who has done it "legitimately".
Im every meaningful sense of the word, I beat the game and fully experienced the (artificial) difficulty and the (awful) game design.
you didnt beat shit lmao
Cope.
I beat it and it took me hours of what others would dedicate months of their lives.
I downloaded a save state before the dark queen fight and beat it, it took me seconds of what you dedicated hours of your life
False equivalence. I played the game entirely, from start to finish. You hypothetically didn't in your hypothetical scenario.
I simply saved time. I noticed and experienced all the patterns just the same.
>i noticed and experienced all the patterns just the same.
you can try to convince yourself all you want but if you savestate then no, you didnt
>I simply saved time. I noticed and experienced all the patterns just the same.
You're forgetting several factors here. Learning one thing once and being able to forget it right after isn't the same thing as having to learn many things together and going through them in succession.
Savestates relieves the endurance, the stress, and liberates your mind of what was before. When you're coming to rotating tower at the end of the game, you're supposed to be weary of everything you've done so far, and afraid that any wrong jump will mean having to redo it all.
With savestates you're taking that away. This is like a test at school, stopping at each question to open your books and look up the answers; and then saying "look, I did it all just the same as someone who learnt the book and then answered all the answers correctly in succession! I've been through all the questions and all the answers!"
No, it's not the fricking same. And considering that the devs considered the warps they added to their games to be a cheat, I'm sure they would agree to this.
All save state runs are hypothetical.
All the mental gymnastics just to say "I cheated but really it doesn't count as cheating!". How old are you because you sound like you're still in kindergarten, jesus christ.
the challenge is mastering the game to a point where you can beat it with the limited lives and checkpoints the game gives you. anybody can do it by spamming quicksaves, theres no difficulty in that at all. by your logic, doing a 3 pointer in basketball 5 times out of 100 is equally hard as doing it 5 times in a row, because they both did it the same number of times ultimately. its moronic.
>the challenge is mastering the game to a point where you can beat it with the limited lives and checkpoints the game gives you. anybody can do it by spamming quicksaves, theres no difficulty in that at all.
disagree.
Rat Race was painfully difficult to time your hits on the rat to make him waste his time on like 4-6 consecutive floors. Once I got to the bottom, to that guy who sits in place, he is insanely difficult once he starts moving. I haven't bothered finishing the level.
game genie to skip levels.
Clinger Winger is unplayably difficult, even with emulation slow down and rewind.
I beat the Japanese version, still need to do US
Yes. I used a Game Genie to get unlimited lives, but I did beat it.
No, I beat it wrong.
I didn't have much games then, so I literally mastered it in a couple weeks. Finished the Genesis version on my first try too.
Even with save states I couldn't beat it. I got up to the level where the ball follows you and you need to turn corners. Mess up the timing on one of them and you're screwed.
Maybe I could have beaten it with enough practice but its just not a fun game. It feels very gimiky and I would have preferred if it was just the beat em up levels
One of my personal favorites but I can see why others don't like it. Terra tubes makes me not want to replay it though.
I have reached the end by using saves once and I can tell you that I know I did not beat that game.
I have not beaten battletoads
But I think I had gotten pretty far once. I'll try again later.
Never have I ever
My fav is Battletoads vs Double Dragon
Never played it but watched a cute girl play through it on youtube, suffered through her defeats and celebrated her victories.
By every metric, I DID beat the game. Even if you consider that I was just watching the girl, the fact that we did it together does not invalidate and in fact proves that I gauged the difficulty just as well as someone who has done it "legitimately".
Im every meaningful sense of the word, I beat the game and fully experienced the (artificial) difficulty and the (awful) game design.
No, I beat it wrong.
How do I beat it right?
With savestates
By turning the game off and saying frick Rare
This.
The real winning move/good ending was to turn this shit off and proceed to date your cute classmate.
Nah I let the zig zagging hell filter me as God intended. Was a good time though.
Using the rewind, yes.
With a study guide, I can beat that damn game.