You DIDN'T frick up this EXTREMELY straightforward quest, did you?
witch was literally helping all of these people and you just had to jump to conclusions
You DIDN'T frick up this EXTREMELY straightforward quest, did you?
You DIDN'T frick up this EXTREMELY straightforward quest, did you?
witch was literally helping all of these people and you just had to jump to conclusions
"helping"
>had all sorts of shit ready in her room to help those people
>her only price was some entertainment in the meantime
>player party comes in and kills her before she's ready
Are you talking about the potions? Did you drink any of them?
I drank one (it had a slightly positive description), and it gave me permanent -1 strength. I threw the rest away. Maybe I should have thrown them at enemies.
Did you savescum?
No. Character was low INT and WIS (apparently so was I, in that moment) so it made sense and gave them an even greater distrust of magic.
i got bad news for you bro - that shit is gonna give you -1 to str every longrest until youre at 0 bro
yes. they are effectively level draining potions you can throw at enemies.
You mean the monkeypaw potions?
Black person she explicitly states she was going to eat up the newborn child of the woman, have it transform while its in her stomach being digested then vomit it back up to basically give "birth" to her own child now. which part of all that sounds like help to you or that she just wanted to "be entertained"?
>hag reproductions is vore fetish shit
I could have lived without knowing those details.
Reproduction is inherently sexual, but you managed to fetishize it. Congrats, your mind has been raped by the internet.
Hags reproduce asexually, so finding that process arousing is definitely fetishization. You're a moron that has no fricking idea what the words he's using means, congratulations.
You should find the foot flesh loving Winged Horrors
>have it transform while its in her stomach being digested then vomit it back up to basically give "birth" to her own child now
Wait, is that actually what she says?
That actually makes more sense than how it's described in the monster manual.
>had all sorts of shit ready in her room to help those people
The funny thing is if you actually drink those potions almost all of them are just poison. One makes you hallucinate spiders crawling all over you lol.
This game just keeps shocking me with all the minor attention to detail and it's amazing tidbits that they don't make obvious but it's explained through the world/environment. Intricacies that make the world feel detailed and amazing to adventure to.
I just found out yesterday that you can speak to dead homosexuals who refuse to talk to you because you've killed them by changing your form/appearance.
Yeah apparently Hunger Of Hadar has vertical reach so I was able to disable demons on the first floor by casting it on the second floor.
>cast Cloud of Fog or Darkness and Silence over an area
>can sneak around and murder everyone with no trouble
>Silence literally silences everything in its radius
is that not how it works? Spells are verbal
Don't they get alerted by the profound, unnatural silence?
>sneaking
>not speccing thief rogue and gloom stalker ranger with two hand crossbows and firing off 5 bolts first turn, 4 on each consecutive unhasted
I’m not a stealth rogue I’m a gunslinger
I just use that disengage cloak and constantly fart clouds of gas if I want to steal something somewhere crowded.
hopefully you have the resist poison ring on
>you can speak to dead homosexuals who refuse to talk to you because you've killed them by changing your form/appearance.
What the frick.
And I thought it's just sometimes rigged towards player or bugged when I could sometimes talk to the guys I've killed, but thinking back, it was after I looted the area and put on some new gear.
So obvious now, but still such cool feature.
FRICK, that's cool as frick.
God FRICKING DAMN IT
now I have to make another evil drow playtrough
Also you can access the small holes/burrows by disguising as small race and I didnt know that until act 3
if you have the shapeshift helmet you can use it then unequip it and still keep your form. free full party shapeshift.
You can also access them and vents through gaseous form
Bro she was in the cage fricking burning when I tried to rescue her. She was going straight in the stew as the grandma said.
She was so ungrateful about me rescuing her that I laughed my ass off when I turned his husband into a zombie slave for myself
Nope, I got the ability +1 perma buff and staff to resurrect dead things. The only sane way to finish this quest.
i fricking love that woman's dead husband, he helped me clear the moonrise tower by baiting enemies one by one into a room where my team was hiding. Shit was Saturday morning cartoon funny to me.
I jumped the Hag in the upstairs area of the tea house and kept locking down her actions with Command so she couldn't escape.
Only found out later about the +1 stat buff. Ended up restarting over it. (among a few other reasons)
Do you have to save the girl to make the staff work?
you have to tight her no matter what or it's game over
You find her brothers dead right outside
What do you mean, i killed those guys myself on the road
Damn I got some bad news for Mayrina then
If you knock them out yourself do the show up in act 3?
Knocking out people does nothing and the game treats anyone knocked out as dead. Not sure why they left nonlethal damage in the game.
notable exception: if you knock out alfira before she comes to your camp (as durge) you get another bard instead and alfira remains alive in act 2.
On my first playthrough that happened, but on my second playthrough they just disappeared. I figured it was a glitch, but the hag's line changed to reflect that I didn't know they were dead, so now I'm not sure.
She poisoned the dwarf.
If you're too moronic to use context clues that alone is evidence she's not int the right.
>willing to sacrifice her child
>gets her brothers killed
>She poisoned the dwarf.
>worth saving
she's unironically a simp magnet
Her brothers don't die if you choose the right options.
The game barely acknowledges you knocking them out instead of murdering them.
That's because knocking characters out has no affect on quests or story. It's a bugged/leftover mechanic that was never given any function past being able to KO people and not calling it killing. The game itself just counts them as alive or dead, usually dead. It's also bugged as hell BECAUSE it serves zero real functionality, where it occasionally treats party characters you knocked out (The drow) as alive by accident. She's not meant to be saved if you don't choose her over the grove but sometimes it knocks her out and leaving her that way either rightfully treats her as dead in future acts or counts as you choosing the goblins (for her flags only), so she can join you later on as if you did.
If you choose the right dialogue with the brothers she just sends them away to baldur's gate and there are no corpses where they brothers usually die.
I told the brothers to frick off or something and found there sister on my own. I don't remember seeing them dead yet
The corpses will be right next to the waypoint so they are kinda hard to miss.
They definitely don't have to die but saving the mask wearers can be glitchy as frick since non-lethal damage treats them as dead anyway.
I got the hag's house though the underdark and my only option was to find two corpses near the "proper" entrance on the area.
I KO'd the brothers, attacked the hag, got recked by the dudes in the masks, got deadended by the poison clouds with the exploding mines and then loaded a save before triggering the encounter so I can come back later when I'm stronger and better prepared.
>got recked by the dudes in the masks, got deadended by the poison clouds with the exploding mines and then loaded a save before triggering the encounter so I can come back later when I'm stronger and better prepared.
Grab a mask off the table near the doorway and put it on after casting protection from evil on yourself. The mask will let you just talk to the masked dudes, see that the poison clouds aren't real, and also let you see another fake door to pass through down there that leads you to the underdark.
Damn, that's pretty cool. I saw the passage to the Underdark from the other side but never knew how to get there.
mind blown
never knew how to open that second door
>I KO'd the brothers
they still die even if you just knock them out btw
Yes but no but also yes.
In Early Access if you did this Myrena reacts as though they're dead. In the live game, you get the option to tell Myrena that they're unconscious, but she reacts as though they're dead.
The only way to save them is to sneak past them and kill the hag, which will release them. Same goes for the encore.
It's better to just let the hag kill the brothers, tell Mayrina she killed them, and she actually admits she fricked up when you rescue her instead of acting like a stuck up b***h.
I just ran past the mask homosexuals and expected them to die in the poison clouds because the AI is moronic. They didn't die and I killed the hag which caused the mask guys to revert back to normal but they still treated me as a threat even though I didn't really do anything to them. So I killed them too, ungrateful little shits.
You can speak to the dead hag and new dialogue will appear when you speak to this b***h, you can make her see how stupid she was.
Then I killed her anyways outside, she wanted to be with her dead husband, wish granted.
You get an extra 5 xp for killing her because you also kill her unborn baby.
Larian you fricking legends
I saved her and she b***hed at me so I killed her
I let her live just because there is a quest with her in Act 3 but not before savescumming just to tell her Id be keeping her pet zombie husband and then shoot an arrow at her while shes running and wailing.
Not worth it b***h doesnt stop getting in problems like a lemming
Does this game let you frick npcs or only the designated main characters
Designated companion and b***hes wait necrophilia mod
If it did I'd be balls deep in Mizora even if she sucked my soul out.
>he doesn't know
Do I have some good news for you, though 50% of it is staring at your naked body.
Kept her alive, and spared the hag. Both show up again later in a fun little quest, fyi.
>helping
She was deliberately being the monkey paw. For that girl in particular, her baby would be killed to be remade into a hag baby, and the husband the hag promised to bring back would actually be brought back as a mindless, rotting zombie. Also, said hag killed that girl's brothers to top it off. If you question the hag after death, she even admits she does it out of spite because she hates how everyone expects her to solve their problems. Not even the straightforward benefit of having a hag baby is enough to curtail her immense sadism and desire to frick over those she bargains with.
Although funny enough, the only person the hag is honest with is you the player with her offer to remove the parasite, only for the parasite to be tampered and make her unable to remove it. Thus, she yet again fricks over a client, only this time it's an accident.
Ehh, on the second point, Ethel is "honest" in that she really was going to remove the parasite, but it obviously wasn't for altruistic reasons. Having a wandering spy whose eyeball you can peer through at any time is pretty handy, as Mizora would probably attest.
Usually there's some justification for being an evil c**t but hags are literally just incredibly evil just because. They're immortal, evil, horrific beings. I like that they're so straightforward.
This. Hags are probably one of the few cases in DnD of fey being just irredeemably malevolent, rather than just a dangerous combination of immortal, powerful and moronic.
Well yeah. The key component of being a hag is being a woman.
Is that Marshall? Does he have a gun?
I defeated the hag rescued her and the quest broke and it said she died
Mayrina fricked up no mother give herbbaby for resurrect the father also she died like a lemming walking to the poison cloud KEK
>go to the necromancers's basement in Moonhaven
>start reading his notes
>''GREEN HAGS ARE BEAUTIFUL''
LMAO!!!!
you will frick the green hags
Unfortunately it's one of 7000 bugs that ruin a quest where mayrina just sits in Ethel's lair for all eternity even once you have the wand, if you kill ethel before she teleports. Where is the bug fix patch.
You can actually talk to the masks if you kill the hag on one turn in the teahouse and one of them tells you this isn't over, and to meet her in baldur's gate.
Sadly if you instead kill the hag after doing the whole dungeon the mask will be mad at you even if you skipped past her and her party.
Can you actually meet them in Baldur's gate though?
Damn, I killed the hag in the teahouse but didn't get the option to talk to them, tried to see if I could pickpocket theasks off but got into a fight and just knocked them out. Does knocking out an enemy actually achieve anything or is it just a good boy flavor of killing? Cause so far nothing has come of it for me
>Does knocking out an enemy actually achieve anything
Only in specifically scripted fights. The only one I can think of where it worked for me was Minsc.
what's the difference between hags and devils functionally?
Hags are fey and devils are devils.
I thought Hags were from neutral evil planes, not hells
hags are fey therefore they frick with you because its funny
devils are demons therefore they frick with you because they benefit from it (and also because its funny).
Hags are the cross between a devil and a fey. Hags are literally in Avernus (hell) and haggle the souls of the dead. She literally tries to contract you like Raphael.
Devils are devils, Demons are chaotic, Devils are Lawful, Daemons are Neutral.
devils - frickable
hags - no frickable
>hags - no frickable
You're wrong
Hags are more chaotic evil, fricking over people just for the hell of it according to their capricious whims like traditional fey monsters. Devils are lawful evil, they actually put in the effort into lawyering shit so they can frick you over instead of reneging on deals when convenient since they'll actually follow their contracts to the letter.
A devil will meticulously write out a contract which either has small print that dicks you over, or puts you in a position that you have no choice but to accept being dicked over. The flip side is that they respect the contract and if you can use that to your advantage they’ll have no choice but to accept it.
A Hag is more like a living monkey’s paw. Once you’ve made the wish they only need to put the slightest effort into granting the letter of it, but unlike a devil you can simple beat the shit out of them (if you’ve got the power) because there’s no binding contract.
So what are you supposed to do about the Tiefling back in the storage shack that the hag paralyzed? I tried using Paladin's Lay Hands to cure her, but it does nothing.
I used some cleric spell to remove it
I freed her from the cage during combat with the hag and she ran over and stood directly next to a hidden mine that the hag then set off by walking over, killing her. I couldn't be fricked to reload and try to save her since defending moronic NPCs during combat is always shit. Same thing with that mushroom guy that wants to help you kill Duergar, he died instantly from getting raped by the giant roly-poly while I was on my way to the village.
You can chuck a bottle of water at the cage to stop it from burning so you don't have to worry about her. If the fight drags on, the hag pulls her out and does the "Who is the real Mayrina" routine. In my game this seriously didn't work out for her since one of the hag's lackeys cast a healing buff on her and she was glowing like a disco ball.
BLOODY CLEVER CLOG
If you throw a bottle of water in a cage, b***h also get Wet status. Hag doesn't have it, so you can see which one is real.
>If you throw a bottle of water in a cage, b***h also get Wet status
i'll remember that next time im tryna get my gf (kidnapped) in the mood.
I examined them both and one of them was higher level with spell effects. That one is the hag.
just use witch bolt on the hag at the start of the combat. it will connect to the real one
>who could be the real Mayrina?
>is it the one with 10 AC like a regular woman wearing clothes?
>or the one with 15 AC like a powerful monster?
Took me all of five seconds
Oh no. Which hag is the real hag?
Is it one that stayed in it's position in the turn order and has the text pop up over it when she talks or is it the other hags that got added to the turn order?
Hmmm damn which could it be?
The trick was actually very cool and I hit the wrong person. I spent a few moments inspecting the illusions and the only difference between the two is that one had night vision. Knowing Maryana was a human I attacked the one with night vision but it ended up being Maryana. I'm not sure why.
If you pay close attention you can actually see her teleport to a particular spot whether it's the mirror image one or the Mayrina illusion.
i just ice spelled it and then magic missle spammed
Mushroom guy demands you kill the new sovereign, if you refuse he fights you. I loved him but frick him.
I really got to stop attacking everything that looks ugly or treats me slightly wrong in this game, I’ve missed so many interactions
Did you kill the mushroom people? Their final dance was the high point of the game for me.
One of them got mad at me for trespassing so I monkey brain clicked attack on the dialogue and wiped their camp
I love him for the simple reason is that he lets you turn the area boss into your personal wrecking ball for the region.
I got baited into sporing the bulette and its fricking useless and too big to navigate anything, I should've just grabbed a hook horror
>knock out masked people in the basement so i can save them after hag is dead in act 3
>game counts them as dead anyway
why the FRICK is there even a non-lethal option
>in act2
>find the toggle for non-lethal after 50 hours of play and brute forcing the hag at lv3
>random harkers are ensorceled and trapped in the spoopy mist
>so if I free them from the ghosts I'll get unique dialogue or something right... (...right?)
>check stats
>marked undead
seriously is there a single encounter where non-lethal does anything? larians view of "your choices matter" seems to only apply to talking bosses to death with speech checks.
Minsc.
You can prevent oathbreaking by knocking out instead of killing guards. And, ironically, a hag related quest in act 3.
Knocking out doesn't save the girl, you have to use an item
I saved her just fine by knocking her out and cutting out the kid, because I accidentally did the quest before I found the hag’s victims.
Unless you mean it doesn’t stop her from coming out moronic.
I only know that summoned ghouls can eat KO'd bodies to recover health, but this doesn't even make sense why the frick cant they also just eat the dead bodies too? they're the only summon I've seen that has the non-lethal toggle but its implementation doesn't even make sense logically
As far as I can tell only melee can be made non lethal damage. hitting someone with a fireball, or acid or an arrow will always be lethal.
even if you do melee non-lethal and they're knocked out, they're treated as dead 100%
If you talk to an npc related to them or something they'll be like "damn i can't believe x is dead" meanwhile they're just out cold on the ground
seems like only specific NPCs are flagged to be "non-lethaled"
As far as I can tell, KOs only make bodies disappear after you rest and prevents Kill items (like parasites) from dropping. Maybe it stops guards from pursuing you for murder, but you'll still be attacked if they see you during combat. I just don't see any benefit to ever use it.
nah non lethal is OP, you can punch out a vendor and keep taking all your shit back from them after you sell it, or you can take cool weapons from some guy you don't wanna kill, or get exp from someone you wanna kept alive
Fighting the Stone Lord is literally the only time it matters.
Not only this but also:
>If you loot the knocked-out bodies and remove the masks they just die for some reason
>If you stealth through the masked room and pickpocket one of the masked guardians, you can't steal their mask off.
The game has its moments but the masked combat in particular was a big disappointment. I wasted way too much thinking my actions would matter.
Even the "special scene" you get for freeing the petrified dwarf early is basically just a kick in the nuts.
>Even the "special scene" you get for freeing the petrified dwarf early is basically just a kick in the nuts.
that's just a bad end. you get the good end if you kill the hag, because then her magic fades and he recovers
There's two versions of unconscious, one wakes up after a long rest, one disappears forever after a long rest. Unfortunately a lot of NPCs have the "disappear forever" one.
i used it to mug Nettie's hat so i could access the druid vault
When you get caught doing a crime or attack neutral NPCs without provocation, they'll all get tagged with a "Temporarily Hostile" buff that says that the NPC will become neutral again if you flee to camp or knock them out and come back later. It's not meant as an alternative resolution to quests, even though 99% of people would assume that's what its purpose is. It's very misleading and stupid.
If you know about hags via DnD's monster manual you'd know the hag wasn't doing what you said in your spoiler.
Her boyfriend simps for me now. Forever.
>decapitated one person
>blinded another
>trapped another inside of a mirror
Help.
I'll be meeting her and her zombie husband in Baldur's Gate whenever I get there
I want a game where YOU are the hag for once.
you can already make a character that looks 30+ years old anon
This b***h had way too good voice acting considering her position as a really minor character.
When she was pissed she really FELT pissed.
>See her merc two guys in broad daylight
>Follow her home; she's mindbroken some girl
>Immediately attack
>She runs away; sprint past all her torture victims to her lair
>Summons more mindbroken slaves
>Get her low; she offers the +1 in exchange for her life
>See the Intimidate dialogue choice to get the +1 and save the girl, but let her live
>Not worth
>Murder her
>Snap the wand in half
>Leave
Peace was never an option.
She returns in act 3.
nta, but I killed her at level 3, do you think I will have problems at level 10?
She can return 1000 times, I'll simply take a few days break, search for her, kill her, burn her home to the ground and then return to my business, she made an autistic enemy, the worst kind.
good post
>>See the Intimidate dialogue choice to get the +1 and save the girl, but let her live
>>Not worth
Very worth. Literally saves you an entire feat to get you main stat to 20
Is it possible to get the Hag Eye and also have Vollo do his surgery on you?
>get to the end of act 2
>enemy spell casters start casting fireball
That's nothing. The scariest thing in the game are mindflayers that cast magic missile.
Shield spell auto blocks magic missile completely
>act 3
>some enemy in the sewer casts some fricking aoe fire spell that does 100+ damage non crit
HOW
Countermagic is good to have, anon.
your psyonic dominance? your counter spells?
Cast your own fireball first.
anon is a too stupid
>Be Warlock
>Enemies have researched "Counterspell"
have researched "Counterspell"
>>They waste it on cantrips
This game is too easy even on Tactician.
it's a good game because of the math
man counter spells and attacks of opportunities should be natural. don't like how you have to waste a skill point.
>counter spells and attacks of opportunities should be natural
This will make the counterspell useless. Any moron in DnD can throw a cantrip and disarm it.
ever try a bullet hell warlock? you shoot eldritch blasts every half second
ping
ping
ping!
Nah man, I'll just play a class that can actually cast spells and can actually fight in melee, or one that can both.
The hag reminds me of my mom, I let her fuss over me and take my eye.
She didn't give a single frick about her brothers
I don't trust a witch to make good on their promises, and all my bard specific dialogue choices indicated to me that hags will monkey paw you if you make a deal with them. Bards are pretty much historians because they spend all their time talking to people and absorbing local lore and songs based on truths. Sure enough, I revived her husband and he comes back as a fricking zombie, because undead is technically not dead or some bullshit.
I can't be the only one who just kills every LGBT character on sight.
I killed the moonmaiden's waifu, killed some random 2 lesbo prostitutes in a brothel. Killed some pink haired orc. Killed some male dwarf that looked like a woman.
There's still at least 1 strange case I suspect is a LGBT right in the center of the main city, will be quite a trick getting them to disappear.
doing gods work anon
I hired the lgbt companions just to kill them and arrange the naked bodies in hetero couples
You do know the companions are playersexual you moron
Not the origin characters(except halsin), the pink haired homosexual hirelings and such.
Did you go after the drag queen in the circus?
I know drag queens aren't technically LGTBBQLMNOP but cross dressing is still pretty gay
I don't care there's a drag queen, I care that the drag queen's face is a 1:1 replica of the VA. I don't want celebrity cameos in my games.
I didn't even realize it was a 1:1 of someone. I just thought they slsos make up and a dress on a default male model.
>celebrity
Didn't even know there was celebrity dragsters
Its an E list celebrity who does theater. It isn't Rupaul himself anon...
I thought that was just how black women look
You could not advertise any louder that you got fricked In the ass as a kid (or didn't but wanted it)
Why is everything always projection and whataboutism with you guilty conscious kiddiddlers?
Because being a self hating gay or a victim of child abuse are the only reasonable explanations for enacting hate crimes against LGBT folx. Most normal people don't think about gays at all, so they have no reason to hate. Don't conflate disgust with hate, either, they are miles apart intensity and severity.
People hate gays because it's like being visually raped every time you see an lgbt relationship. It's like being harassed over and over again by the grotesque with no filter or way to block it, and if you don't accept it, you're a bigot and cancelled and shunned. Nobody wants to see something that's forced on them at every avenue and replacing the things they love and care about. It's absolutely maddening.
>my eyes are literally being raped oh no
You sound exactly like the same kind of c**ts that require trigger warnings for their media kek.
Whether it's hypocritical or not it's the truth, it's like being introduced to gore for the very first time until you are desensitized, it's not natural, so many people are desensitized and just accept it now but the natural human mental state rejects the abnormality at first. Accepting it is a learned behavior.
Accepting languages is also a learned behavior, this is not the kind of an epic gotcha you think it is.
You are a bigot, moron, but not bigot enough to say your mind outside anonymous message boards, so you're a fricking pussy, too.
Oh no not a heckin bigoterino!
Freaks and weirdos are always projecting because they want to convince themselves that they're heckin valid.
Nightsong felt like something out of a modern superhero comic.
>I WILL NOW ASCEND AND SPREAD LIGHT EVERYWHERE AND FRICK MY LESBIAN CLERIC PARTNER
I reloaded 2 hours of saves and kept Shadowheart as a moronic Shar b***h just to have her spear that super dyke.
Female duergar in underdark (the one with explosive barrel) is lesbo
Childhood friend of shadowheart is troony
Her invis ability in the final fight literally made it an easy cheese sneaking past everything and bursting the brain in about 4 turns
I'm playing as a palading of vengance and wanted to see what the Oathbreaker thing is all about. I decided that if i was gonna break my oath, it might as well be for the +1 stat boost, so I let the hag go and threatened her to leave the girl behind. This cool dude appeared in front me telling me I fricked up and that he'd meet me at my camp that night.
Now here's the problem. I got a repetition of the after-celebration cutscene with Shadowheart that night for some reason, then the fight between her and the frog, and now Oeathbreaker dude won't apperar. I don't know if it's bugged or if I have to do something else, which sucks because I'm walking around with my oath broken and I feel dirty.
I wanna use Halsin but his owlbear form clips through everything in cutscenes
This sucks
if u wanna use halsin then just cast sanctuary on him and use moonbeam, it doesn't break when you move it around
the animal forms are all poop compared to that
>incredibly overleveled running around the first area (backtracking before leaving act 2 so i didn't miss anything).
>run into little old lady accosted by two men looking for their sister.
>immediately peg the old woman as a hag and tell her to take a long walk off a short pier.
>she gets mad revealing she is a hag, laugh because my internalized misogyny and hatred for magic users sniffed her out.
>chase her back to her cabin.
>surprise attack her and drop her turn 1.
>run through all her bullshit of people she tricked, get baned from breaking the mirror
>run into woman the men were looking for.
>starts throwing a tantrum about how i runned everything and something about being pregnant. Idk i wasn't listening.
>Frenzy throw her into the hole
Pretty fun quest. 7/10.
I told the hag to let the girl go and to suck me off (increase my ability score) then I killed the girl.
that green hag sloppy toppy got me fricked up
>get the hag eye
>in Act 3 nobody in Hag Survivor's Anonymous mentions it, in fact the Cleric specifically says I'm just a normal fella
Lame. I wanted at least a single comment on this extremely notable and relevant feature. Getting saddled with Perception disadvantage the entire game wasn't worth it.
Honestly I just find it really cool for the visual change. I can forgive the lack of extra dialogue.
The entire act 3 Ethel quest is disappointing. I assume Larian decided writing, voicing, animating, etc. an entire coven would be too much work.
Funny thing is they did an entire hag coven in act 3, it was just cut for some reason.
>Knock her unconscious
>Game acts like she's dead
WOOOOOOOW, thanks Larian
I was pretty mad
Do you ever find the second Hag that wrote the letters?
>Do you ever find the second Hag that wrote the letters?
No, it's literally never mentioned again. Larian either completely forgot or cut it and then forgot to remove the letters.
It was confirmed cut content there was supposed to be two other hags in the game.
How did you get this webm of my Halfling Bard getting his shit kicked in?
Should have played a real class
maybe a halfing/gnome dark urge run would be fun
Read about a pretty fun build I might try next, like a bard/wizard multiclass that's suppose to be stupid OP
i got +1 to a stat and a zombie slave to set off traps with.
anybody who didnt fricked up.
This and saving the children of vampire hunters are my favourite quests
Auntie Ethel please, if I take one more bite of this pie, it’s going to come back up to say hello
EAT THE FRICKING PIE, PETAL
OR I AM GOING TO FEED YOU SOME MORE MISSING PETS
>my game keeps crashing in the underdark's forge
I don't want to start over, bros...
Just turn the camera away from all the lava and particle effects and shit.
>play Paladin
>attack the druids, cause a massacre of all the tieflings
>wipe out the druids
>go to goblin camp
>their leader acts as if I was helping them
>kill them all
>wipe out the githyanki
>accidentally kill the brothers of the little girl kidnapped by the witch
>kill Karlach to get the Sword of Justice
>oath is still intact
>kill Karlach to get the Sword of Justice
???
I got the sword without killing Karlach. Lil tadpole told me the "paladin of Tyr" was a devil in disguise.
Either way, grats I guess for letting a devil live by killing a tiefling.
I liked them both
I was just fricking mind reading literally everybody
It's amazing how fast ideas like principles and the sanctity of thought go out the window the very second I encounter a situation that I am not 100% certain of
>want to try Oathbreaker, but started as Vengeance, so every time I try to do bad shit it's considered normal
>switched to Ancients, maybe it's easier to break
>every time I can do evil thing, like with helping hag or joining goblins, I just can't make myself do it or completely miss it
Am I really good person deep inside?
I was vengeance and just killed the tieflings that had captured Lae'zel, broken right away.
I want to be an edgy dark knight, but I can't make myself do bad things. Yes, even in a game, it leaves bad aftertaste.
If it makes you feel better, most of the evil choices also have just less shit. They need to flesh that shit out.
>generally doing good stuff
>enter owlbear cave
>no problem, i have speak with animals
>talk down the momma owlbear and then head past her for the cave loot
>she doesn't like that and attacks me anyway
>realize there's a baby owlbear behind her
>unload everything into the baby on turn 1
>mom goes berserk and actually lets out a horrified scream at me in english because speak with animals is still going
I probably could have handled that better
You could also have broken your oath by letting the goblin out of her cage at the grove, or by accepting the hag hair buff by any means.
I think you confused vengeance with oathbreaker, vengeance still can't outright merc innocents.
Read the fricking chain
I was ancients and massacred all the goblins during their feast and that broke my oath lol
>I'm alive, you're dead. Deal with it
Giga based
Why is Mariyna is the sexiest character in the game to me? Is it the mascara?
Bex is the best girl in the game
Too bad she is taken
I resurrected her husband, I wanted to see what would happen. Creepy b***h sauntered off to baldurs gate with her miserable falling apart corpse of a husband begging to just be put to sleep again. I'm gonna kill her and grab that wand when i get to baldurs gate, I made a stupid decision trying to be nice. Are you telling me that fricking wand doesn't just raise him? Can you raise generic corpses without wasting a level 3 necro spell?
>Are you telling me that fricking wand doesn't just raise him?
The wand was made by a monkey's paw hag. What makes you think it would have brought him back from the dead hale and hearty?
>Can you raise generic corpses without wasting a level 3 necro spell?
There's at least a couple different ways to do that. Warlocks get it as an invocation.
I also fricked up and turned the cute absolute cultist girl into a skeleton when I resurrected her, her guts peeled off her body onto the ground and I wanted to vomit. I also slaughtered every single goblin because frick goblins and I wanted exp. But i forgot to save before resurrecting her and I lost her damn skeleton when I rested at camp, so shes fricking gone forever I guess.
>cute absolute cultist girl
Whomst?
The girl when you first walk past her and her brother and the guy is on the ground dying, and he calls you the true soul for the first time, then they try to run off and fight the owl bear.
I'm sad they removed the part where you could gloat at her misfortune with astarion after the fact. same as with ogre barn sex. frickers
In our co op playthrough I put on the mask to see what it does and my dragonborn monk went out of my control and killed all three of my friends characters, they literally could not stop him and it was a party wipe.
>he put on the CREEPY MASK in a HAGS basement
Deserved
Don't frick with fey stuff
burn it all
I got physically ill from this part. It's just a fricking fairytale hag, I wasn't expecting a torture-rape cave in permanent stasis.
Man and all the Tieflings got tortured and raped too even though I saved them. Are all DnD games so dark and depressing? "Alright Susan where we last left off your character was being raped and torutred what do you wanna do?"
D&D hags are some of the most vicious and evil creatures in the setting. they're all the worst parts of Baba Yaga with none of the good side.
The only d&d hags ive dealt with were the Curse of Strahd ones which were pretty evil.
Good business sense tho.
I've also heard of demi-liches that are just floating skulls and if you see one they trap your soul inside one of their teeth. That's also horrifying. Is this what sickos did in their spare time before the internet was invented?
If you want another example of old school depravity, though it isn't D&D but rather Glorantha - You know, that funny haha game with the ducks?
Broo, the inspiration of warhammer beastmen, are the children of the god of rape who raped the mother goddess I forget the fricking theology of it but the important thing is they can rape and inseminate anything - not just women but men and children and cows and chickens and trees and rocks and the ground itself. A broo will gestate inside the thing they raped and then burst out like a chestburster.
There's also the drow pregnancy bit (children kill eachother in the womb - that's fine. But also drow women get a narcotic/erotic high from it hence why they suffer the indignity of having children). And elminister the old gandalf was turned into a woman by Mystra and had sex with other women.
Listen it only gets worse, it only gets so much worse.
So this lady called Thed gets raped by Ragnaglar, who incidentally, is -probably- the son of Umath (imagine zeus in that frick everything way), and your classic madgod, who went mad probably because he was thrown in what is only briefly described as "the sex pit".
Thed, so raped, goes to the boss god Orlanth and demands justice. That's fair you say, no she doesn't want his dick cut off, she wants to become the Goddess of rape, and not as a victim. This correction has gone so badly she's now decided to correct everyone else in repudiation.
Orlanth, in a rare moment of not being a complete moron, decides he wants nothing to do with this and just fricks off. Thed decides she's gonna form her own band and joins up with a couple of other bad gods.
The Broo are her children and expression of her will. If you're being kind you can probably say its a tale about how vicious cruelty is a cycle of pain that's inflicted by the victim.
The strange part is that I wouldn't even say its the most fricked piece of lore.
Gloranthan lore is complicated. The best way I can describe it is you know how IRL a goat would be born with two heads and some nutter would say its a demon and you need to sacrifice the little old weird lady who lives in a hut at the end of the village to prevent bad spirits? It's that but it's 100% true.
>Man and all the Tieflings got tortured and raped too even though I saved them.
wait what? when does this happen? i murdered them all so i missed out
Most of the Caravan gets massacred off screen in Act 2 even if you help them, and one of the early parts of the act can very easily kill off the ones who remain in one swoop.
Yeah that fricked me over and I restarted/savescummed against my own discipline. I've invested way too much into seeing these worthless refugees make it to their destination. I WILL DRAG THE SURVIVORS TO BALDUR'S GATE IN MY FRICKING FORESKIN IF I HAVE TO
Are you talking about the birdman and his goons attacking the settlement or is there something else?
Caravan gets massacred before then. You can find their bodies a little ways from the Inn. Birdman event can lead to the last few getting turned into Zombies if Isobel gets nabbed.
>Get raided in Lost Light
>Isobel dies in 1 turn by running outside into the waiting arms of 3 enemies
>Reload
>Use banishment to tell her to frick off as I frick everyone up
>"Frick that was stupidly hard"
>Literally the very next day a patch releases that buffs her health
Frick me...
What can I tell you other than "git gud"?
I reloaded only once on Tactician, because Blood of Lathander combined with Spirit Guardians is OP. Oh, and the birdman can't do anything when Lae'zel shreds him in one round.
The birdman goes down super easy and is not a problem, the issue is Isobel is a dumb c**t and will willingly run into the open arms of 5 winged horrors while sporting a wopping 13 AC or something, which also means she gets paralyzed and every attack on her is a crit afterwards
Thankfuly cutting words is busted and so is healing word coupled with all the "buff on heal" equipment
Use warding bond on her with shadowheart. You can also cast mage armor and/or shield of faith on her. Protection from evil/good also works.
Warding bond is the big one though, since it doesn't require concentration, and can keep her healthy throughout the fight.
people really had that much trouble? I just killed everything trying to kill her
You realize that if you didn't buff your party's initiative, the enemies have a decent chance of killing her before your turn starts?
the only one nearby is the bossguy and he can't kill her in one turn
there are three winged horrors that spawn at the entrances to the room as combat starts
if you just walk up and talk to her your party will be surrounding her when combat starts. they're not going to be able to dash and attack
No, if you're not purposefully moving your party, they'll be on the balcony while you and the Selunite will be surrounded.
works on my machine
Shouldn't be. If you open the balcony door and immediately talk to her your party should still be inside right where she spawns when the fight starts.
I don’t know if they’d already patched it by the time I got there, but when I played you got one round of grace as they dashed in
Does anyone know what happens if you let her die? Does Ketheric flip his shit or does he just bring her back again?
It's a total bullshit pure RNG fight. No idea what they were thinking
>enemies crit her before you can even do anything
>reload
>they keep missing
Should have given me an option to double impregnate her to solve her grieving widow problem.
don't care, hags get the smite.
Enjoyed the bit of the game I played, but holy frick a definitive edition needs to come out soon. Knowing there was a whole act 2/3 throughline of hag cabals that frick with you if you mess with her which was completely cut out of the game is so disappointing.
I'm putting my playthrough on hold for the upcoming Patch 1 (1000 fixes and addons) and Patch 2 which will add things that people have requested from Larian.
>hey halsin, Kagha was working with the shadow druids
>woah, bro, that's crazy. wanna smash?
That shit should have resulted in Kahga joining your party.
Never played BG before, should I know who the characters in the last light inn are? I feel like I've heard the name Jehera and Isoldo just from cultural osmosis.
One of them matters, but died on me. Wasn’t that big of deal but was a b***h.
5 characters from BG in the game.
Redpill me on Oathbreaker Paladin, is it any good? Currently I'm considering a Paladin Sorcerer or Paladin Warlock for my second playthrough.
if you dont kill the hag she just eats another child in act 3. you can cut the kid out of her stomach but i regret it a lil bit since the child seems to be moronic
KEEP MY ANCESTOR'S NAME OUT OF YOUR FRICKING MOUTH
dragofurries are cringe
The term is scalies. b***h.
whatever, furry fricking shit. yiff in hell
Gargle on my thick, viscuous prostate pudding like it was your morning protein shake
Playing as dragonic ancestry on top of dragon born is kinda dumb in term of extra conversation pieces
Cause not a single time anyone would acknowledge both like they do with other stuff like drow+sorc/warlock
I wanted to go full dragon maxx so that PC is also a cleric of Tiamat (which gives you some cool dialogue options of being a greedy gold hoarding frick)
Game is in dire need of [DRAGONBORN][BREATH WEAPON] options during dialogue tbh.
That hag is deader than disco, if the chick wants to blame me fine. I am not the one who tried trading their baby to bring back a dead husband and wound up with neither though
It is known.
Is Eldritch Knight fun?
How the frick do you save Mayrina's brothers?
I'm pretty sure you don't, they just sprint into the swamp and die
You don't outside of technicalities like knocking them out. Either way, telling Mayrina that her brothers died stops her from acting like a b***h when you save her so it's net gain.
when exactly does act 1 end? Is creche act 1 or 2 material?
You'll get a big warning.
Crèche is act 1. But you get a warning before entering the territory because it does cause some events in act 1 to advance. Act 2 is when you get to the shadowlands
Mountain Pass and Underdark are Act 1 still
Was the mountain pass in the pre release?
can i go to moonrise and pick up minthara before visiting the creche?
No, once you progress to act 2 you cannot go back
Yes
Is wrong.
You can go back to the crèche after getting her if you want to. Just don’t complete the gauntlet of shar, that locks you into being unable to go back
Remember how there's a letter from a different hag living in Baldur's Gate to Ethel yet when you get to the city Larian forgot and just made you fight Ethel again
Can you get the zombie husband even if she dies in the hag fight because I'll let that ungrateful b***h burn in told cage next time if so
I fricking HATE fey I want nothing more than to kill every last one of them.
Pathfinder Kingmaker has made me permanently racist against Fey.
Based. Started playing d&d for the first time earlier this year and my character is a fey racist after having been kidnapped in a fairy raid as a kid. Killing fey makes the game worth it.
in real life? also always support your local hobby comic shops
THIS. I always was but kingmaker made me full on nuke the fey
Portraying the fae as anything but vicious motherfrickers that are neutral at best and are actively malevolent towards mortals at worst, is disingenuous. They are awful fricking creatures and they should be purged with fire.
Devils steal your soul evily.
Fay steal your soul nicely.
Do you happen to have green skin by any chance? Just asking, really curious.
Nah went for as pale as I could be. Constant bloodloss and from the norf.
>nicely
Lol.
A devil will show up to a poisoned man and offer him an antidote in exchange for being his personal gimp for a year, then fail to mention that time moves 100 times more slowly in his realm.
A hag will offer to take the poison away and only later do you realise that being an animated skeleton technically means there’s no poison in your system anymore
Hags are vile and very lawful when it comes to fay. You should worry about ending up in her stew rather than fearing for your mortal soul when dealing with them.
The fey in the moon lantern is an butthole too, if you free her from it and then use the bell to call her to buff you she makes you beg for it.
Total f*y death
ha ha, what a lovely song : )
You should be able to recruit her as bard companion I wonder if she was cut out like the halfing werewolf
Apparently there were files found regarding her originally being a potential Origin character and companion.
I killed this c**t after I freed her. I dont give a frick.
If i save your life and you're a c**t, you die.
I even killed Laezel for this.
I killed the gnomish c**t with the gunpowder too.
You may ONLY reply to this post if you took the hag's eye knowing full well it was a bad deal, and then took the hag's hair knowing full well what she would do to Mayrina.
>took the hag's hair knowing full well what she would do to Mayrina.
lmao i took the hair AND made her give up that dumb prostitute. CHAds, report in
>he screwed over the hag
You're not a real Hag Enjoyer. I'm a Barbarian and I deliberately chose to get the hair only even though I could have gotten both
Anon please do NOT frick the Hags
I didn't get the eye or hair because first thing I did when I went into her shack was tell the girl her brothers were dead, and then proceeded to purge the hag in the name of my Oath.
Not getting the superior eye from Volo that allows you to see invisible enemies/ reveals them if you or they approach you.
Damn, imagine being this dumb.
im sorry. frick with my soul all your like but frick with my cosmetics? nah.
>let the Hag escape for juicy +1
>she dies offscreen to my DoT poison damage
Lmao
I hope she was meant to come back and curse me too
What type of mental illness or boredom commanded OP to make this pointless, outright wrong thread?
>get to the pirate tavern
>there's something weird going on here dude
>bruh it's fine they aint got this ladies kid my friend says
>my autistic evil drussy obsessed magic man has to help all the kids in danger though
>bust up into the basement
>o-oh
>get my vindication and grossed out all in one
If you talk to the Black pirate Captian she just becomes a bigger and bigger c**t until she reveals she’s the hag and sends red caps after you.
Baldurs gate needs to release the daisy cut
For me it’s the squirrel.
the one that you punt at the tree killing it instantly?
I fucjwd up the quest by sneaking into the treasure room before confronting the hag. Quests bugged and fricked. Can't finish it up despite having the wand.
It was neat to get an item that works as a nuke in act 1.
what is this thing? i killed those zhent frickers and then the other zhent frickers attackes me because i opened the box it's in. i had it in astarions inventory the whole game and never did learn what it is.
It's a Spectator in a jar
It's a spectator.
is there anything interesting in the quest with it?
Wouldn't know. If you steal it from the chest without the guards knowing they get beaten as a punishment. If you tell the leader you have it, they claim you've killed everyone with this action and fight you.
next run i'll be sure to follow it through.
hmm, could still be useful
anon, that doesn't look very cute to me
You should definitely keep it, since it’s basically an I Win button. It helped completely trivialise the Orin fight for me.
I lobbed the spectator at her, then summoned an earth elemental and cast cloud of daggers. She was on half health even before I’d taken out the cultists, and one looney tunes slip in the elemental’s mud later was enough for a smiting to finish the job
if you do the quest correctly, the merchant it unlocks has some nice equipment. The gloves that give you advantage on all pickpocketing, disarming, and lockpicking attempts is great.
I got those without giving it to them. Just complete the quest and let the delivery guys take the fall.
I loved the game but the ending sucked, inventory management was painful, and beholders shouldn’t be cute.
Ending was good it shows that humanity makes our own endings not to rely on the game to spoon feed it make up what you think happened
The city coming together fight scene was kino, the extremely rushed and awkward player interactions was not. It was so bad it was hilarious.
If you save the Zhent frickers before getting the mission to save them. You can sneak away with the box and the Zhent lady will give you the full rewards simply for saving her men, you'll also find him strap to a chair and being beaten to death for losing the shipment.
>that Raphael boss fight music
kino
raphael's va is great, captures the smug devil perfectly.
that's neat. does it fight on your side if you throw it?
No it tries to kill you and everyone in the area
>no ending in which you become raphael's onahole
larian drops the ball yet again
actually if you give in to the incubus fricking i think that's about what happens
Nah you can talk out of that and just randomly cum in the street whenever it has sex using your form
I’m pissed the Spotify version is only 2 min long.
Wait, so Isobel's death ISNT scripted? Round 1 the demons rushed in and killed her in my game, I thought that's just how it was. Frick, it's been hours since then, I'm not reloading. I guess it's just more motivation for my paladin. The fight afterward was cool, too.
she can live, but it is a pain in the ass to keep her alive. i had to cast sanctuary on her as much as possible and literally use every party member to body block her so she didn't try and melee the fricking fiends
Yeah it seems you'd have to do something crafty, get lucky, or be over levelled to win that shit.
Yeah that's part of why I thought it was scripted, since I never got the chance to save her or heal her after going down. I moved one character, attacked the birdman, and before I could do anything else, she was done
I haven't had to use most of my magic slots for the game, and that scene made me use the most I ever had. You have to melt and charm.
i was shocked that the INSTANT she goes down there's just a cutscene of birdman casually walking away with her body and no opportunity for you to react, rez her, whatever. for a game with so much player agency, it was really jarring.
you can save her. I think every action and reaction is scripted.
there is no script I'd she dies in combat vs the slag
>if*
she dies during combat
She got stolen in like 2 turns for me(apparently they've buffed her since), one of the times I didn't feel bad for savescumming.
Next attempt I gave her ward and healed her.
It's funny because I'm pretty sure saving her is what Larian expected the majority of people to do, but the AI in the game is so moronic they'll run in and fricking die. If you thought Isobel was bad just wait for Jaheira in Moonrise.
That was my first impression too but then I thought about it and thought there was no way the game wanted the tieflings to die and it was just bad luck and the AI being moronic. Had a good laugh when I saw this in the patch notes the other day.
This fight gets way easier when you realize the bird guy doesn't have a good wis save.
Kept him prone with Tasha's Hideous Laughter and put Warding Bond on Isobel to help tank the winged horror damage while I dealt with them.
the npcs are fricking moronic and a hassle to keep alive, just let them die
Sanctuary her at the first opportunity and pray she doesn't break it with attacks right away. A party member with turn undead is a must, and that massive aoe heal from life cleric saved her from going down for me twice
>finally time to bang the karlach
>tonight's the night
>go to long rest
>cutscene rolls, here we go
>it's wyll
>he wants to dance
>reject him until he awkwardly wanders off looking like a beaten puppy
>no karlach
frick you wyll you piece of shit
did you do complete their quest lines with their fiends? fiends as as hell spawn.
Haha. I actually wanted to see him dance. The other queers were all over me for no reason, wyll I just want to see a platonic dance after he talked a big game, he tells me to get fricked.
frick that stupid b***h. I redirected her husband. he's mine now
Game desperately needs two quality of life features to be playable - complete rework of inventory management and party selection. mother of god is it bad
there are tons of inventory sort options
thats not the problem. the game just needs a single shared inventory. you can already magically transfer things between people despite how far apart they are and for no cost mid-combat. the multiple inventories only make it extra tedious to interact with it.
or they could go the other way and remove those things, turning them into actual hard inventories that require you to pass items between characters and cost bonus actions to move around. would also put an end to the box fort tactic.
dnd noob but throwing a potion to a party member and them drinking it immediately by spending their reaction mid combat sounds cool
throwing potions at a person's feet to heal them or attacking potions for a bigger splash seems kind of weird to me, should heal for less or something due to not being directly ingested
There's a mod that adds a bunch of auto sort bags for scrolls/potions/arrows/bombs. It helps a lot with inventory clog.
sauce?
you can literally organize your inventory solo or the whole party based on what you want to speculate the most .
The first thing I did before starting this game was install the unlimited weight mod. I knew I would spend 5 hours of playtime just sorting items and looking for vendors to buy my shit
what sucks is I kill most people for xp
I only have one one merchant left after act one
So, all those special arrows.... Worth using? I am currently hoarding them, dunno if i should sell them, use them on bosses, or just whenever
Silence and smokepowder are OP.
The common elemental arrows are extremely mediocre. Roaring Thunder and Smokepowder arrows are amazing for knocking groups of enemies off ledges, or for setting off explosives. There are a few times where you fight enemies that regenerate where the Ilmater arrows come in handy. Transposition arrows are an alternative way of getting around if your archers can't jump good when exploring, but are useless in battle unless your positioning is that bad or for some reason you still haven't given your archer the dozens of ways to get Misty Step.
>Transposition arrows are an alternative way of getting around if your archers can't jump good when exploring
Archers rarely need transposition, but Maimed melee fighters can benefit greatly from it.
At that point, I'll just drink a healing potion to remove it, which is only a bonus action. Using up an entire action to move is extremely wasteful in combat.
>Using up an entire action to move
A Fighter can shoot an arrow and immediately afterwards do two melee attacks. A Rogue's Sneak Attack bonus should work for off-hand too.
I'm confused. Are you suggesting I off-hand a crossbow to shoot a Transposition Arrow on my melee people?
That's interesting, but I think a two-handed weapon is just better and you only need to transpose if maimed, which is not every fight.
what happens if you wipe out everyone in the guild hall? does mol go hostile or what? i want her to not be a stereotypical tiefling scum.
>the guild hall
divine divinity?
>save all the tieflings in moonrise
>get an amazing robe for sorcs and warlock I'd love to use next playthrough as one
>realize I probably wont get it as I'm going to be evil
you miss out on a lot of good loot on the bad guy path huh.
Yeah it is rough. Those robes are godly.
>steal the Orphic hammer from the House of Hope and run back to the entrance with dorf-chan
>Raphael cuts me off
>that demon from the Shar temple I convinced to kill himself is there too
>mfw
Ended up convincing him to fight with me anyway lol. Felt a bit stupid that he wouldn't be angry about that.
Why would he be mad, you freed him.
out of every game the hardest item to get is the celestial katana.
I made a Samurai build, got to the end of the game without it, looked up where it was. How was I supposed to know to enter that house. My characters no thief, why would he just randomly break in.
That entire sequence was the high point of act 3 for me
Figuring out how to get in, sneaking around and seeing exactly the fricked yo things Raphael does to those who sign for him, finding hope in hell, and then beating a super devil to death while he sings his own boss theme
Game peaked there, the final bits after only barely held up
I like to watch
why dont just use scroll of revivfy on maryana husband?
"reactivity"
Revivify only works if the person died in the last minute or something.
Fortunately Gale has a scroll of True Resurrection that would totally work.
But they don't let you revive NPCs because that would be complicated.
Exactly, I just fricked her and beat the stupid quest
ate fey related to elves/drows?
>And the award for biggest c**t in gaming goes to
>THIS GIRL
>use darkness arrow on NPC
>sneak in the darkness and go into turn-based mode
>able to steal everything because Blindness hides my PC
>able to steal everything because Blindness debuffs the shopkeeper
>even if I fail on a steal attempt no one sees anything and I'm able to keep trying and/or stealing
>clean out Baldur's Gate shopkeeps of ALL their goods
My only regret is Arrows of Darkness are not all that common and cannot be crafted. You can throw vials of poison but leaves you exposed unless you're in a place no one can see.
So many flavours, and you chose Black person.
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Cloak_of_Cunning_Brume
What do you get for putting the dead clown together?
best caster gloves in the yjvvygame
>always miss 70% of rays
>lets make the attack rolls even worse
>best
heh.
Gloves that let you choose to take a -5 penalty on Spell Attack Roles, to deal an extra 1d8 of damage. You can just pickpocket or kill the troony for it instead though.
There is nothing to frick up
>I'll find another one just as ripe and plump.
She was going to eat the baby, Anon.
you get the xp after you revive her zombie husband and let them go
why is everyone in this game covered in a layer of grime and dirt. like every single character
insert something about bri'ish genes here
Just beat the game I had no idea I actually killed the Dead Three themselves when fighting their chosen, I thought they were just dicking around in the world of mortals and would be fine but the after credits scene suggests otherwise.
>I had no idea I actually killed the Dead Three themselves
If you did, Jergal would restore his godhood. They just shat their pants, but they are still minor Gods with some followers.
>Jergal would restore his godhood
Yeah that's basically what's happening if Jergal is Withers
He doesn't look any different, though. And he says that they are still gods, but weak and moronic.
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Jergal takes on various forms I don't think his look matters, his latest one is Withers.
It's more likely that Withers is a guy who tried to reach godhood. Ao punishes those who try to become gods by cheating by turning them into liches. It's also possible that Withers killed Jergal which is a big nono for Ao.
He is absolutely Jergal.
Jergal looked like an ayylmao. Withers looks like a lich.
>Jergal was also known to take on the form of an old mortal man with a great white beard and sunken eyes that still held the spark of energy and betrayed his sharp intellect. He could take the form of any undead creature, amplifying the form's abilities with his gear and enervating touch.
I don't see how anyone could think otherwise, his scene of reviving a redeemed Dark Urge and chiding the Dead Three like children he's disappointed in are dead (HAH) giveaways.
He says he is not there by choice which suggests that either Jergal has become depressed or Ao is involved.
Wasn't Jergal serving as a seneschal to the currently reining god of death, which would be Kelemvor? That'd mean he had sent him instead.
The only one who has technically served Ao is Helm.
Yes, which is why I'm not so sure Ao would be the one to have sent Jergal on an errand when it could have been Kelemvor instead. That said, Helm was incredibly based.
>please let me pass, I am very important goddess of magic!
>No
>Pretty please!
>Fricking kills her instead
No one had to send him, he probably felt obligated to help undermine the 3 stooges after they almost made the world literally soulless.
My theory is that Withers is Jergal's avatar from the time of troubles and he just went to sleep in the coffin until he was needed after being told a prophecy of what the dead three would get up to by Alaundo (hence why Withers says that "he was right, as always" on meeting you).
But Jergal was a good little boy. The only thing he could have done to piss Ao off is not caring about his followers and Withers does seem rather uncaring of the hirelings. His question to the mc also points to that he has no clue of what to think about mortals.
The description on the coffin he's found in also uses one of his divine titles. "Here lies the Guardian of Tombs. Through knowledge comes atonement."
He's more than some random cursed guy not everyone can respec and revive people willy nilly like he can
>Ao punishes those who try to become gods by cheating by turning them into liches.
Sounds like some nu-wotc writing.
>evil wizard wants to become a lich
>do an Irenicus/Sarevok
Easy.
Withers seems much more aggressive with you if you're the Dark Urge Origin. Seems like he's already tired of your shit.
>if Jergal is Withers
He's not. If you pass the skill check when you first meet it pretty clearly says he is Jergal's chosen.
It can solo the beholder for you.
I don't think every high-level character should be counted as a god.
>Jergal would restore his godhood
Would he though? His spot is still taken by Kelemvor.
Nah they're fine. If you corpse talk with gortash bane praises you for doing so and tells you he's imprisoned gortash for eternity
you guiz misspelled money
>fly by cum on everyone
the ending with the zombie husband was funny. I like how few happy endings there are so far in the sidequests. I could be resolving some of them wrong but a lot of them just end bittersweet, or with some "but the guy you saved is bad for another reason" twist, or "you could save this person, but this means this other person will die"
I didn't do anything there because she said she would take my eye for the cure
Is there a lot of content there?
>do the prison break
>almost got everyone out
>one fricking gnome gets fish'd
There was an achievement for getting all of them, wasn't there..
>do the prison break
>all the prisoners wait 10 seconds before skipping their turn
that took forever just for that.
>do prison break
>wulbren didn't break tiefling wall before warden opens cages
>tieflings all run through hunger of hadar and wulbren gives up on breaking their wall
>2 tieflings die
>reload
>break the tiefling wall
>gnome didn't break wall fast enough
>warden opens cages with alarm
>gnomes try to run through all of the guards during combat
>wulbren dies
>reload
>wait for wulbren to fully break the wall before i break the tiefling wall
>warden for some reason decides to path over to tiefling cage before fight starts
>1 shots the brother tiefling through the closed doors
>frick it idgaf anymore
>just make sure wulbren gets out alive
>cages get opened mid-fight
>gnomes and tieflings that were at the boats breaking the chains decide to equip random clubs and bows that were lying around boat
>they start pathing their way back to the fight since there's a path to enemies
>all the absolute ppl are lvl 8
>gnomes and tieflings are 3-5
>had to kill everything before the absolutetards got any funny ideas or gnomes made it back
really shows off the dumbass ai during combat
darkness + 5 boxes from my chest of the mundane
i could've just broken both walls myself but i figured i'd let the npcs do it
>murder all the absolutists and flying eyes in the dungeon, which doesn't alert anyone outside
>break the walls by yourself to mock the midgets and devils after tossing them a hammer
That's not the prison break I was thinking of. There you could either kill the guards straight away or find the rear path behind the walls and break them from that side. That way everyone is already at the boat by the time the guards notice and then just intercept them when they come through the narrow path.
>fish'd
what
You haven't done act 3 yet?
It was that dipshit who yells about how they’ll never kill him, wasn’t it?
That little moron ALWAYS stops to admire the scenery and ends up with arrows up his ass unless you wipe out the hunters.
I thought parking an air myrmidon next to the spawning pool was clever until manly tears fricked everything up
Might have been. It was one of those two dweebs locked in the room next to the unconscious woman on the table.
This quest was so amazing until the ending, they fricking tripped at the finish line
>literally no option to complete the quest without showing Mayrina the wand
>NO OPTION to tell her that hag magic is le bad before destroying the wand
>you have to pull it out, tell her "This wand can resurrect your husband" and have it start glowing in front of her, and then you have the "snap wand" option
>give her a deranged joker smile if you do this, like the game treats it as if you just did a random clown evil option for no reason
Oh yeah this really bothered me too. I ended up just leaving the quest unfinished. Just in general it's annoying how your character emotes without any input. Like smiling at things when it doesn't fit your character.
>I ended up just leaving the quest unfinished
Why? Just give her the fricking wand.
I'm playing a paladin so I'd probably have to just kill the husband. Not even telling her about the wand seems like the best choice so she can just move on.
>Shar gets a proper giant godly model
>Mystra is just some roastie
Larian did her dirty.
does make-up exist in the dungeon and dragons world? why does she have mascara running down from her eyes?
Makeup existed in fricking neolithic human societies, they have entered early industrial age in the setting of BG 3, of course it fricking exists.
>why does she have mascara running down from her eyes
Because she spent a lot of time bawling.
>does make-up exist in the dungeon and dragons world?
Of course. Why would it not?
People figured out makeup thousands of years ago, women in ancient egypt and greece used it. A medieval society would have it.
old timey "make-up" was smearing fruits on your face and shit. it wasn't mascarra.
but if the setting is industrial then ill accept i guess, i havent played the game
You are delusional. Mascara had been used as early as 3000 bc.
anon are you sure about that
yes i havent even bought the game so how could i have played it?
>take some charcoal
>grind it into powder
>smear it around your eyes
boom! mascara
It was a bit jarring seeing her in Act 3 and she STILL has running mascara. Get this woman some fricking wet wipes.
this quest bugged out for me since I killed the hag before she could escape to the cage area
I set the b***h free and she kept repeating same text prompts every time u clicked on her and she never left to cry at her husbands grave with the arcana shit
I took the staff too
First time I shoved her down from the cage area and she died but quest didn't register her death so I had to reload and kill her with a weapon so it would show quest completed.
This whole area was garbage and not even worth bothering unless you really need that ability point or w/e
You were probably cheating if you killed her so fast the real boss fight couldn't start
Playing my first MC companion and it's fricking hilarious playing as Gale and eating loot and all the companions putting accusations of you stealing good shit.
>Meet funny Gnome
>Be Cleric of Talos
I don't know what I expected.
Tell that to the Elf girl with the gouged-out eyes in the entrance gallery
so dose shadowheart lose her cleric powers if she lets nightsong go?
Selune steps in to juice her up
No, she mentions another patron stepping in, which is pretty obviously Selune. It would be neat to respect her into light domain after, though she was a Tempest Stacy in my run
Nope and you respec her to light cleric after
>tfw unironically missed this quest since I borderline skipped the druid grove to frick minthara
I couldnt help it I’m a coomer
>You DIDN'T frick up this EXTREMELY straightforward quest, did you?
Of course I didn't. I killed the hag in one turn while still in kitchen
I let the hag take off with the prostitute for that sweet +1 to charisma.
you can intimidate her to get both
Why would I want to save a treacherous prostitute?
>wants to save her husband
>treacherous prostitute
wut?
Can you get the +1 cha and the +1 reward to any stat? Just met the b***h at the tea house
you can change it to +1 whatever you want yeah. make sure you have the character you want it on talking to her
Was pretty high last night, all I remember her saying was some shit about removing the parasite which I figured was bullshit so I didn't even try
>make sure you have the character you want it on talking to her
That doesn't matter it's an item. You can consume it on any character.
I just found this b***h and the hag
Where is this +1 potion?
the hag gives it too you if you beat her at the inch of her life.
i hate how i killed her before she gave me that option.
All I know is the act 3 boss fight with the Hag where you have to brew a potion you find out about earlier in the quest and then throw the potion at her to get her to vomit up a kid was a fun fight
The only thing you can do is save her from being killed.
>is disgusting
>gets purged
problem?
WELP!
Alchemy is so moronic and I never engage with any clunky crafting in games so I just refused to make the potion, good thing nonlethal works
Nonlethaling the hag only works if you are lucky. Throwing the potion on her while she is upstairs is what you gotta do. Potion is super easy to make