You know how Toy Story 1 was sort of a graphical benchmark.
It was actually beaten by consoles in some ways really early on.
Starting with the human models. Sid here looks like shit and they tried to minimize focus on human faces for much of the movie.
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I only watched Toy Story 1 and 2, both are masterpieces, is Toy Story 3 and 4 good?
1 is far and away the best, 3 is great, i would actually put it above 2. 4 is fine, completely unnecessary and probably shouldn't have been made but it's a fine movie in its own right.
The making of toy story 1 is an amazing underdog story, basically a handful of programmers and artists did the entire thing and ignored the studio.
There are several documentaries on it, i'm not sure if this is the one that goes over their struggles with the producers who didn't like it and ended up eating crow but https://youtu.be/6W_HL3nULMM
I really think 2 is the best in the series, I think it has a real shot at being in a top ten sequels ever made list
2 > 1 > 3 > power gap > 4 imo
Yeah I also like 2 the most. It doesn't have to spend time establishing the characters, Buzz is already redpilled as being a toy etc. Also the new characters are a good addition without taking too much space from the originals. Hated 4 for that reason because the og crew is totally sidelined by much worse characters.
I rewatched 2 recently and realized I fricking hate Jesse and she eats up a lot of screentime, that said the plot is more enjoyable than princess Woody gets jealous
I guess 3 was such a nice conclusion to the story that I was always going to dislike 4 on some level
Man 1, 2, and 3 really are very good, it's hard to stand up next to them, I don't even know if 4 was good or bad
4 could've been pretty great film but the execution just sucks in my opinion. Just rehashes old topics and introduces pointless characters just to cash in with more celeb voices .
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i love those army men so much its unreal
>both are masterpieces
they're ok. I don't think any western animated movies have aged well.
Shut up weeb
silence golem
strange thing to say when modern animated films look like shit right out the gate.
3 is a good conclusion, I was bored watching 4. I'd rank them the same as
minus the power gap, but 2 is also one of my childhood movies I haven't seen in 15+ years so I might have nostalgia bias.
3 was actually pretty good and should have been a conclusion. 4 is probably everyone's lowest rated one. It felt like an unnecessary epilogue conclusion that sort of undermines everything from the 3rd movie. Only good thing I can say about 4 is that it looked pretty nice visually.
1 is good
2 is good
3 is manipulative member berry shit thats so busy asking you to member the gang that it cant be bothered to do anything besides a lazy prison break movie with a deus ex machina ending
4 is fine
2 gave me nightmares as a child, specifically the nightmare Woody has where Andy throws him in a trash can and he's dragged down by toy arms
Looks like a Jimmy Neutron character.
This model looks on par or better than Sid in some ways.
This was PS2 era. It could also be the games art style.
Oh yeah and did that come out in 1995 you gorilla brained Black person?
You’re an idiot.
The point is to compare the graphics power of these pre rendered 3d movies to console games.
We didn’t match the shadows and lighting used on the toys until the ps4 with kingdom hearts 3
But it was matched or beaten in other ways since then
>We didn’t match the shadows and lighting used on the toys until the ps4 with kingdom hearts 3
Its still not matched since all these 3d animation movies use raytraced lighting
Toy Story 1 has awful shading. The only thing that wasn't matched until PS4 was model quality, since movies are rendered in quads with copious amount of AA and always look smooth.
Toy Story 1 to 3 were rasterized.
It looks better because of the art, not the graphical fidelity. The humans in Toy Story are just straight up ugly.
Then you have pizza planet, it’s supposed to be a big Chuck E. Cheese type arcade joint but it looks almost empty, it’s also packed but there’s barely any kids.
It looks good in motion and with sound, definitely gives you the illusion that it's bustling and that kids are everywhere playing around.
That's how most arcades used to look back then. Most machines were always empty because they just sucked.
I haven't watched a diznee movie since roger rabbit so i don't know wha you're talking about.
they knew the tech looked like shit, that's why they chose to make the story mostly about plastic toys
You can tell how desperate Pixar is when they plan to make a Toy Story 5.
After all these flops I would be desperate too.
elementary or elemental or whatever frickin sucked. this new era of no bad guys pixar is dogshit. Wish also feels like a straight to VHS movie and Lin Manuel Miranda cant write music for shit, the goal of a song isnt to give the fricking literal plot synopsis you moron.
To be fair Sid looks like an average Ganker poster
I like the uncanny valley look the first movie has. It reminds me of that time when 3D animation was just taking off. And the world was full of hope of a brighter future. Not degeneration and Black folk, dems and israelites dancing on the ashes of humanity forever.
I hate it when I get all sentimental.
Probably going to make one hell of a monkey paw here, but it's something I have been thinking about for a while.
Video games constantly get HD remakes, what if they did the same for early CGI films? Imagine Toy Story 1 or Shrek with modern day CGI. I mean look at . Many of these films do not hold up in the visuals department.
The thing is, they probably have to remake the entire movie and it's not really cost effective. The tools used at the time aren't compatible with what's used nowadays. I heard they had to do a lot of work to even get old renderman running on modern hardware to re-render the first movie for the Blu-ray release. If you pay attention you can even find some bugs that don't exist in the original.
>The thing is, they probably have to remake the entire movie and it's not really cost effective.
A new remake would probably not be extremely expensive. They don’t have to rewrite the script, the character designs besides humans and the dogs would be mostly the same. They can sort of take a wireframe version of the animations and retexture them. They also don’t have to redo the voice acting.
Though scenes like pizza planet might have to be remade, since it looks bad now.
Again, the tools are incompatible. They can't just take stuff from old versions and convert them, otherwise that's what they'd have done for the remasters, instead of having to dig up software from the 90s and revive it.
And even if they managed to port the animations somehow, they'd still have to remake everything else. These models wouldn't play nice with modern lighting techniques. Environment models are stupidly low quality even. We are talking at least 2/3 of a movie work, for something not a lot of people wouldn't go to the theaters for.
surely they could take the models from 4 and use Andys house from 3 and kid andy from 3. 3 is so packed to the gills with nostalgia pandering I bet theres enough recyclable assets in there to redo 1
They did this with The Lion King and even rereleased it in theaters, but truth be told I couldnt tell the difference. The humans dont look great in 3 or 4 anyway so I dont see the point. Bonnie and her parents look like grubhub people and the kids look goblinistic. Toy Story 1 looks fine when you arent looking at the dog or the humans
Skud's eyes always disturbed me as a kid
>I hate it when I get all sentimental
yeah we hate it too you whiny pussy
how do doomers write these kinds of posts and think they're anything but pathetic
What the frick are you saying.
Take a break from this site.
OP needs to remember that when the first movie came out, the PlayStation was still brand new and most kids only had the SNES and/or Genesis. Toy Story was mind blowing for its CGI when it came out.
Not long in the future after that, the N64 felt like science fiction but real. Shit on the system all you want, but the 3D graphics in SM64 were unreal in 1996.
I’m OP. The point is to talk about when games stated to match the benchmark set by Toy Story in graphics.
I think monsters inc might be the point where we can’t match it with modern consoles maybe in unreal 5 with a 4090.
I don’t think any game out there can make sullys hair as good as in the movie.
This. I watched Toy Story when it hit in theaters and I was too young to realize it, but it was revolutionary. We still had the NES and barely had glimpses of the SNES and Genesis. Imagine still playing the NES in '97 and that same fall you see what the Playstation 1 is all about. Never mind the N64.
Honestly I think games will never catch up to CGI movies, let alone Pixar's best work and I think the massive jumps in graphical power were devs, manufacturers and publishers trying to chase those Pixar and Dreamworks movies and then later on going for photorealism when gaming trends shifted. As it stands, graphics can't get any better without a massive jump in tech and money and I don't think people will pay an even grand for a PS6. Hell, I don't even know what the difference is between a PS4 and 5 graphically to this day.
the good dinosaur is a great movie
Wall-e is climate change propaganda slop
People forgot the original looked like this. It's really early 3D but no polygonal edges and PS3 tier soft shadows.
4 is not canon
4 is a better ending than 3
>and then andy gives his favorite toys to the little Black person girl
vs
>and then woody and bo peep frick at the carnival until the heat death of the universe, untethered to Black person mutt kids
I didn't know Ben Shapiro was a child actor.
It doesn’t really resemble Ben Shapiro
>It was actually beaten by consoles in some ways really early on.
>phoneposter
jesus fricking christ, why are you gays always so moronic?
That's just art style