>Rat is scary, got banned for a goddamn reason.
Rat is way less harmful than you think if she's not at 3. Even at 2 best you can end on with zoodiacs is f0 + drident.
Also people have this weird idea that you can endlessly summon the Xyz zoos but you can only summon each opt with their overlays.
With Circle of the Fairies and Diabolantis, the deck actually has some cool combos it can do (search camelia and then normal summon it)
It's just missing good non-tuners, and a good synchro to go into off of Ruddy Rose Witch.
All Beetropers/insect soup need is a good boss monster but for some fricking reason they keep printing combo pieces that you can't even fit most of them anymore.
I disagree. I think its has some good boss monsters. Atlas and hercules are fine. Its bad this meta due to purrely and ariseheart demanding tribute effects. But basically every boss monster dies to that shit anyhow.
I think a better fusion spell, or a link 1 would go a long way to helping insect. Even if the link 1 had no effect and was just a vanilla link 1 insect.
The biggest issue is it requires a lot of shit to get going and has no 1 card combos, hell it barely has 2 card combos, and all of them die to any interruption.
Brother, Atlas and Hercules are not good boss monsters at all, and I'm not even talking about this meta. They're just trash in general. Atlas isn't even a real tower, and even if they somehow made a Branded Fusion for Hercules, it LITERALLY doesn't do anything. In fact you'd probably play it just for the Foolish and Hercules is just a bonus. You can't even sit on Hercules forever because it becomes a vanilla on turn 4. They also don't even protect the rest of your board getting run over like Avramax. In fact, you only summon Atlas as a combo piece to summon Sting Lancer and grab Fly and Sting. You'd much rather link it off for Papillion. They could have made Beargram or Ultimate Great Insect actual boss monsters, but instead they thought it would be funny if the former was not a quick effect, and the latter only on Battle Phase (lol??) on top of needing a field spell active. Trust me man, I coped a lot with insects when they released back when your best boss monster was Beetrooper DPE. They don't need 1 card combos when every other main deck insect is a combo extender.
There's not, but like the anon above you said, that hardly matters when the whole deck is extenders. The other anon is also right though that they're easily chokepointed. An imperm on Armor Horn if it's the only thing on field, or on Picofalena is going to cripple them, or an Ash on Resonance.
If Lucifer doesn't bring back some kickass support from his fight with Condemned, Ixchel is going to invoke her rights as goddess of suicide. People WILL DIE.
Dinosaur, all these years and it still lacks a proper extra deck boss monster, even with the animation chronicle support dinos still are just "UCT, at least two generic negates and either the big dick triceratops fusion or guardian chimera". KONMAI even went and made a whole new archetype with unique playstyle and effects instead of throwing the OG's a bone. Not that i really mind since these "dinosaurs" are big tittied anime girls and cool looking robots.
>KONMAI even went and made a whole new archetype with unique playstyle and effects instead of throwing the OG's a bone.
and yet, still no 1 card combo..
Worms unironically were actually seen as good for their time, they just aged like actual dogshit and had the Blackwing problem of endless waves of garbage cards surrounding the actually good center
>initial villain of the DT story line >are complete shit
good worm support soon hopefully
7 months ago
Anonymous
Worms should be the monocard archetype and punish severely the opponent for having dupes and even harder for triples
7 months ago
Anonymous
>punish severely the opponent for having dupes and even harder for triples
Do you mean in deck or in board? Because it would be a nightmare to enforce IRL if a guy can just go "actually I only have 1 Ash in my deck, trust me".
7 months ago
Anonymous
JUUUUUUUDGE
7 months ago
Anonymous
Quick non OPT or OPC effect that let’s you see the opponent’s hand, deck and GY whenever he activates an effect. If you find dupes, negate and destroy the effect, triples negate and banish face down all 3 cards, mono and your said monster gets banished face down. Also a card that just let’s the opponent see your deck and let’s you see the opponent’s deck and both banish face down all cards that are at more than 1 until there’s only 1 copy of the card in the deck.
>Send one Infinitrack monster from your deck to the grave; special summon this card from your hand. >An xyz monster with this card as material blah blah blah >You cannot special summon monsters the turn you activate this effect except machine monsters >Once per turn
It'd be fine
>Field spell that makes the opponent play Witchcrafter as in he has to discard a spell to activate anything and removes hand limit >Link monster that lets you send 10 Witchcrafter cads to the GY as a cost >Verre power up that just an enemy board banish face down >Handtrap (spell) that lets you play in the opponent’s turn
Tidal is interesting in Tear. Zodiac is an interesting package now that you can potentially end on double Drident imo, although I don't think anything meta can really use it. Monkeyboard is actually a strong card but >pend
who cares lol
>Zodiac is an interesting package now that you can potentially end on double Drident imo
Read the archetype.
Like, homie, how fricking hard is simply reading the cards?
>first double Drident , >then UDF is an omninegate
I feel like Zoos + Kashtira is a viable and powerful deck now, since Kash doesn't NEED their Normal summon. Extra points by tossing in the Brave Engine and maybe even DPE. It's been said before that Kashtira is better as an engine, and what it lacks is good negates. Well, Zoos offer a 1 card combo into an omninegste.
you can hard make second drident frogposter moron. Normal Zoo gives you a drident plus level 4 body so you just need another body to make it(or whatever else you want). With Barrage you can do this without even using a normal.
Promethean princess was almost MD exclusive
Going MD first seems to be the smarter move, really. They can easily gauge the popularity of new cards to be released on paper and adjust prices/rarities/supplies from that data. Them giving you physical versions of your owned cards in MD for a price is pretty sweet
i like this build but i'm not sure about the two imperms i see others playing it but it really looks horrible in a deck like vanquish soul any ideas without crafting UR cards?
If you want more attributes then running DD Crow or Kumungus makes sense. Or you can replace them for Small World if you want. The level 4s all bridge to each other. Or just Jiaolong+Borger number 3.
Congratulations you probably dodged the worst period of this game's history. Things are pretty decent right now, as far as meta cancer goes, though you might need a bit to adjust to what some of the newer shit is like. It's also the 25th anniversary right now so there's some free shit.
Just don't be dumb enough to pull from the bait packs. In early MD they were doing selection packs based on the events, like there was a shitty synchro pack for the synchro event and an even shittier fusion one for the fusion event.
I think modern decks are at the point where bricks like DM are acceptable payoff for something like Dragoon.
Branded Beast and Driver are certainly not roadblocks for Dragon Link
Hmmm..... well both of those spells would make you lose extra deck cards which is not worth it, and your only normal summon isn't strong enough to beat him, so you should probably set it to protect your life points. Maybe you can bluff him into thinking it's something like a DD Warrior Lady and he won't attack it so you can tribute summon in a couple turns.
Kash in its current form is a good deck which is really weak to certain cards that everyone was running when the deck was super popular which made it a bad deck which made people stop using it which made people stop spamming its counters.
i guess people stopped running books and TTT, maybe i'll try it in this format could be better, i mean alot of people are playing kash for a reason no way it can be bad.
whenever i played kash on release i always got rolled so i don't have the best view on the deck.
>Kashtira is OP most broken degenerate deck of all time >Kashtira is dogwater most honest fair petdeck of all time >Kashtira is alright
The infinite Kashtira cycle (this is samsara)
>go second >guy is playing bystial thunderdragon >oh OK >gets colossus and titan with batteryman+link kuribo+dragon dark >verte >chains mask change 2 >dpe+dark law as well
OK yeah frick you
Good conceptually and good in practice are vastly different things. A card could be the most busted shit ever but if you have no way to search it and don't open it it might as well be time wizard. Modern meta is all about searching and consistency
A lot of it is just people wanting to have the "correct" opinion, so they hear from someone else how "everyone knows Change of Heart is absolutely busted!" and just repeat it without actually thinking about whether the only thing keeping them from playing Mind Control was the inability to attack.
This. The mecha phantom beats don't do shit and are completely freed. Maybe 1-3% of games I run into some bricky fragile gimme variant that dies to any interruption but admittedly makes mast end boards
>VERTE NEEDS TO BE BANNED ITS BROKEN ITS BROKEN ITS BROKENNNNNNN >ban celestial >Verte literally does nothing for the rest of time
a thousand keks on that one
when some old deck with a deck fusion card gets support in the form of a new fusion monster.
I mean its happened twice now, really no reason it can't happen again.
My guess is its going to be Neos Shit, or maybe even Shaddoll shit.
ok, when the releases that are like 8 months ahead of MD reveal Super Shaddoll Fusion that summons a towers Winda by fusing from your own extra deck, I’ll agree that MD should ban verte. Doesn’t seem like there’s a rush right now.
So ban it when it becomes a problem. You're saying a card should be banned for a hypothetical issue that literally does not exist.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder how he feels about snake rain.
7 months ago
Anonymous
And kindeling and a billion other cards
7 months ago
Anonymous
A lot of people think dragoon could return if verte is gone.
I dont see why anyone would want dragoon to return. The game quality would drop a ton. Theres too many nostalgia players as it is. Give them a towers that demands a kaiju, and plays under maxx C and ladder is fricked even more.
I played verte in my red eyes deck currently. its alright. Can get slash dragon or meteor out easily. Is it good? Lol no, but id rather verte be legal doing nothing than risk having dragoon running around.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Give them a towers that demands a kaiju, and plays under maxx C and ladder is fricked even more.
Dragoon's discard cost is too high to justify running it. The only deck that would use it is Branded, which otherwise has no access to negates. Branded already doesn't run Allister or Mechaba and summoning Verte is awkward because of Branded Fusion's lock.
to be fair TCG doesn't have the Roach which vastly changes how you construct decks. It makes combo decks and power cards stronger since you plain have more space in your deck, and "can set up decent board and follow up in just two special summons if you get maxx cd" is not a relevant concern
So ban it when it becomes a problem. You're saying a card should be banned for a hypothetical issue that literally does not exist.
>BUT THINK ABOUT HYPOTHETHICAL CASES
AH SHIT, WE NEED TO BAN UNEXPECTED DAI FOR WHEN THEY RELEASE THE TIER 0 GEMINI DECK WHICH TREATS THEIR GEMINI MONSTERS AS NORMAL MONSTERS IN DECK HAND AND GY
Wrong, as a matter of fact they're usually right, just that you are examining the claims way longer than the time they're beginning to be made, you're examining claims from a format that is lower power that you don't even play, and because MD and OCG already let some dumb fricking cards be free that are worse than some of the other cards they're talking about so maybe they're not "a problem" when you already have moron shit running around. Like Snow is still legal and one of the dumbest cards ever printed. But you'll have morons coming up and going >hurrrr it's not doing anything
When it was just fricking moronic a format or two ago in Tear. I see the same thing about Verte like this moron here
>bro we should preban cards because they might be abused in the future
You gays annoy me
because people are stupid and don't understand what really makes a card broken by design and broken by happenstance. That being said on these cards being lifted, I think most people in the TCG have been okay with the idea of the Dragon Rulers for a while. The Zoo shit is still stupid though, especially because MD brought back XSaber Invoker and the first thing people did with it was make an FTK, you're asking for trouble bringing back Ratpier especially if it comes to two. People also forget that OCG had had "no ban" tournaments where Zoo was the second best performing deck after Tear.
I wonder how he feels about snake rain.
That's a dumb argument because Snake Rain has never had the chance to actually prove it is broken, Verte already has.
Snake Rain is obviously bannable but it shouldn't until there is a real reason. Verte has already shown it is bannable, it's just not good in the current decks, this isn't a hard concept.
It's already shown it's bannable when there is shit that makes it bannable, same as Snake Rain. Neither have shit that makes them bannable. Neither are currently bannable.
This is Master Duel though where we have a whole year of warning what is overpowered. Anyway, they really need to ban Tomahawk before Kashtira releases because that'll ruin the whole game. They should still ban Tomahawk for being annoying.
They literally don't play. Tcgcucks will play maybe one game a week on average, while mdchads will burn through 20 in an hour. They're basically larpers.
I believe this due to the sheer fact of how fast duels go in MD. And I'm not just talking about Turn count. Everything in MD is almost automated that it really helps the QoL of things.
I believe this due to the sheer fact of how fast duels go in MD. And I'm not just talking about Turn count. Everything in MD is almost automated that it really helps the QoL of things.
But TCG plays other simulators, and those have animations that are magnitudes faster than Master Duel
How can you people defend Verte when fusing from deck is basically the new powercreep standard now? You could go "it's not a problem in the meta NOW' but it's obviously always going to be a problem card when they decide to release another strong fusion from deck card (which we know they will) so why even keep it legal?
>how can people defend verte when every fusion deck does what it does anyway these days
Yeah it sucks but verte isn't moronic for that exact reason. Power creep is simply that far. What are you going yo summon? Fricking DPE?
There's really no good places to discuss YGO on 4chins. You either have dead threads on /tg/, CAC shit and name gays on /dng/, or the dumbest opinions known to man on Ganker.
What legal target in master duel makes verte deserve the ban hammer
>Verte is just not good in current decks >hurrr but what current cards make Verte broken?? Checkmate atheists
Yeah, isn’t it so based? I was super disappointed with md’s last banlist, but this unbanlist makes up for it easily. They should have put rat to 3 though. Maybe next month.
>new season starts time to get some gems >first match is against runick stun that locks me out on turn one and then he banishes all the cards that could save me >quit master duel
This game sure knows how to ruin my mood in less then 5 seconds
Its okay, if Little Knight is anything to go by they'll just print Link 2s that do [INSERT VERTE TARGET HERE]'s thing infinitely better so it doesn't really matter
it is one of very few just generic link monsters you can plop down that can do something on opponents turn
the other being masquerena, but IP requires a bit more setup
removal is never going to be as good as an extender, it would rather make Dharc, ram it into something and continue comboing rather than sit on a card that takes up a main monster zone after it teleports once
So true, I will make Dharc then use Shien's Spy to give my opponent a monster and enable cheat engine to give myself a battle phase turn 1, then ram it into my opponent's monster to search ummm D.D. Crow
SP is functionally an extender since you're able to turn 2 otherwise useless bodies on field into:
1. A removal for threats on the board/graveyard
2. A recursive interruption for this and next turn
this allows you to play through boards with ease as well as give you a fighting chance when you get handtrapped to death
compare this to dharc who completely relies on your opponent to get value
compounding this with the fact that it's non-destruction removal on both effects as well as the lack of restriction compared to verte, you have an easily meta defining card
>have a playset of a UR sitting around for like six months >Every once in a while I have a look to see if it's used in anything that I might want to play >Find nothing and finally dust all three >Months go by >Need the playset back
We have Super Poly at 3 and Verte legal and I've never had someone Verte into Super Poly me. Verte even has the second effect to make an opponent's monster dark.
>opponent summons several boss monsters >bait out all of my opponent's effects >have two small negated monsters on board >heh, board broken! Nothing to do here but end my turn and collect my win >they kill me with their monsters
You actually DO need to break their board before it is broken.
i feel like there a hidden UR counter in this game, if i open legacy packs and i get a UR or more in there my next gem pulls will substantially get worse.
>An entire new selection to beg people to play the unbanned cards
Nobody is gonna pull from this, Tidal and Redox are one ofs so you are just better crafting them if you really want them.
Ah I guess that makes sense.
But on that topic, wouldn't a monsters effect still be a monsters effect in that context? Why would spells be excluded?
the better question is why you're running retaliating "c"
Beetrooper. Plus it's pretty good right now against purrely and VS plus some other less relevant decks. At worst it's a way to get resonance or maxx C.
Who really even cares anymore, it's the OCG's maxx c format. They'll just print more powercrept cards anyways, no real point to even bother with fake banlists.
That is what the original idea was.
Just pick the one that shares an element with your deck and put it in there.
But then people realized you could just make a deck with all the dragon rulers.
Water one seems pretty good for Tear with it's discard + foolish burial but the Earth one feels like it would just brick me if I don't open full engine hand.
There's a shitton of cards on the banlist that are fervently defended by people that have never read any of them. I've seen people claim Fishborg Blaster is unironically a better Jet Synchron
>Well it is not once per turn so you can probably make something moronic with it.
Like what, skip your opponents' turn? Because that is what decks can do right now and no one plays that shit seriously because "FTK your opponent if they don't stop you" is irrelevant.
woah infinite link material...but you have to discard each time and also somehow get a level 3 water on field? Su-fricking-goi, I'm shoving Genex Undine into my deck right away to combo off with Fishborg
Really though with telefon existing, any tuners that can special themselves from grave should be unbanned. Glow up bloom, level eater and the like should be at 3.
Here's my list that made it to M1 last month, their playstyle is pretty simple and your endboard is generally Magnifica with Mika/Kasp as material + Returnia set.
If you're implying they're israeli that doesn't stop them from being Nazis anon. Hitler literally believed he got to chose who was and wasn't israeli even if they were 100% israeli.
Many of even the highest ranking Nazi generals were israeli because whatever the frick his real intentions were it definitely had nothing to do with caring about israelites.
I don't think any of the highest ranking israeli Nazi generals were ever brazen or identified with their israeli side enough to wear the symbol they literally used to identify israelites with
BUT ZOOS HAVE SO MUCH SPACE FOR STAPLES ANON
Just ignore full power tear utterly destroying full power Zoo every single time in unrestricted format
Most of unlimited Zoo's power came from its ability to establish boards through "le handrip trio" because every card's a starter. This obviously changed when Tears made most of them suck ass. Bemusingly, Tears is also why Kashtira is the 2nd best deck because Tear IS the deck to beat and Kashtira is just about the only deck that can realistically stand up to it consistently
They probably thought a bunch of blonde christian girls with military uniforms was a bit too much so they added the star of David just in case, but they don't really have any israeli themes like Shadoll and Zefra had.
>really fricking hate the idea of a monster resurrecting >main deck monsters only kvetch at said resurrection and attempts to prevent it after it happens >all canonically worship planets (Moon, Venus, Saturn) (as per the VBEX) associated with them (Hubal can be seen as the Arabian Baal, Lucifer, Saturn) >their leader Martha, has her japanese name also translatable as the demon Malphas, and her quick Xyz effect works on anyone, including her teammates, fricking with the GY >also, hyperxenophobic and the only engines they run include the Tamas (spirits of a pagan world), Dinomorphias (terrorist freaks), and Cyberdarks (known to have canonically enslaved Black Dragons)
It's all about subtext anon.
You can automatically attach them and get their floating effects every turn as a sort of "I am going to kill you into the sun if you out this Ariseheart and don't kill me on that turn"
I mean Ariseheart pass is infinitely better than whatever other endboard DRuler could make
I'm remembering the dude who said that somehow Ariseheart was harder to out than this and I'm still rather curious as to what theoretical card Noir eats shit to that Ariseheart does not
It's harder to out because it more specifically requires a Kaiju or Xyz Encore to deal with it. Ariseheart was susceptible to common forms of interruption like DRNM (never run because shangri), Book of Moon/Eclipse (run because of shangri), etc. It's also harder to set up against Noir and you can't really swing over it until it start ripping your field up.
I legitimately think they should print support cards for anime cards they refuse to retrain like Sacred Beasts, Cyberdarks and God cards that permanently give the monsters additional effects along with some other decent effect like searching or whatever
You pair it with Scareclaw to turn it into a vsauce deck that can end on Baronne/Vicious Astraloud/Tri-Heart I think/a few others I don't remember off the top of my head. They don't interact as strongly with Kash/Tear but they're a visaslop deck
This is true, but I think that trying to make decks whole sole purpose is to get gay turnskip cards banned months after they're done wringing it dry instead of just banning them is moronic and gay
>heh why would you ban a card when its doing nothing? >wtf where did this auto win combo troony deck come from?! BAN IT KONAMI BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT
This general is so braindead
the cognitive dissonance is this shit general is ridiculous, you'll have schizos defending combo enablers with their fricking lives and in the same post calling people trannies for wanting maxx C banned.
>vs Manipulator of Souls OTK >Imperm his Numeron Dragon >still proceeds with the coombo
This HAS to be an actual bot. No other explanation.
You lost, dumbfrick, move on.
The card doesn't actually attack, it just applies its effect to simulate a battle in the main phase. Then it can actually attack for real in the battle phase.
Actually interesting card design.
its really funny seeing people doompost about Ratpier at 1 when they can't even read the fricking card.
You realize NS Ratpier send Ramram is a 1 card free Utopic Future right? It doesn't even take more than 2 cards in the main deck so expect to see the Zoo package being played.
You do realize this combo >requires a NORMAL SUMMONED ratpier >requires 4 extra deck slots (FOR 1 NEGATE) and if you want to go for a zeus engine that number goes into the stratosphere >plays into nibiru >dies to every handtrap in the world
Man shut the frick up
>his deck needs his normal summon >his deck needs extra deck slots
Other 2 points are dumb because making them waste Nib/handtraps on a random Ratpier combo is a good thing.
Literally everyone in the anime is cheating. Kaiba with infinite money, Mai used perfumes, Pegasus with the eye.
Pendulum was literally created because Yuya was losing with a bunch of bricks in hand.
>unabnned the fricking zoodiacs AND DRAGON RULERS AND FRICKING PEPE
What a massive mistake this is. These kinds of cards need to stay on the list forever, what the frick is Konami thinking?
Like if you want to unban something do Kirin or Merli, not this shit. Can't wait for the ladder to be spammed with degen shit. Frick this game
Not without Block Dragon. Imagine having no reliable search at all. It is the same kind of issue where Purrely quickplay spells hits are big deals since the deck have no consistent ways of accessing specific quickplays
>make expensive, soulful stardust synchron deck >when I don't brick it either dies to one handtrap or my opponent instascoops when I negate their disruption
🙁
Naturia Barkion or Exterio, Spright Elf, Mask of Restrict, Spright Pixies in GY, Secret Village of the Spellcrafters, some level 2 Spellcrafter on the field.
More specifically, >Normal Summon Mirror Magic Master >Special Summon Georgius >MMM effect tribute Georgius to summon 3 Ice Barrier tokens >Winds over the Ice Barrier tributing all 4 to summon Defender, Cryomancer, Dance Princess, and Warlock >MMM effect add another Ice Barrier monster to your hand (for Dance Princess' effect) >Set Mask of Restrict
Warlock shuts off all spell cards until your opponent's next turn and Dance Princess can bounce them back to the field, while Defender and Cryomancer are two different flavors of Gravity Bind. Mask of Restrict prevents them from tributing your cards away with Kaijus too.
The one blind spot is trap cards, but one could probably find a way to stop them with Denko Sekka and/or Jinzo, granted they figure out how to get them out in the first place
>Jinzo/Spell Canceller/Majesty's Fiend/Dark Simorgh/Last Warrior from Another Planet
doesn't stop hand or gy effects so anything pitching tackle crusader outs Spell Canceler and then you just eat Raigeki
Feels like you forgot to add something, something that can just summon a bunch of big beaters like the old 8 Axis deck can just walk all over your board.
I don't see how Zoodiac would be a massive issue in modern meta, considering how all the main deck monsters can't special summon themselves.
Even with Barrage, their normal summon reliance is a HUGE LIABILITY (modern meta full of constant removal disruptions)
>i have consistently predicted ban list hits with 80% accuracy
thanks for reminding me about that, people are looking at me funny because i laughed audibly
I feel like Zoos + Kashtira is a viable and powerful deck now, since Kash doesn't NEED their Normal summon. Extra points by tossing in the Brave Engine and maybe even DPE. It's been said before that Kashtira is better as an engine, and what it lacks is good negates. Well, Zoos offer a 1 card combo into an omninegste.
>dragon rulers
>Monkeyboard
>Ratpier
>Barrage
...W-WHY?
I'm scared
>all cards that were meta in the past but dont do shit nowadays because of powercreep
You have literally nothing to fear.
Rat is scary, got banned for a goddamn reason.
Rat at 1 is garbage.
>Rat is scary, got banned for a goddamn reason.
Rat is way less harmful than you think if she's not at 3. Even at 2 best you can end on with zoodiacs is f0 + drident.
Also people have this weird idea that you can endlessly summon the Xyz zoos but you can only summon each opt with their overlays.
Yeah, now that rat is limited I'm so scared of his ability to summon a rat from deck.
FREE HIM
And her too while you're at it.
all the dragon rulers should be at 3
they are no good anymore
What's that one archetype you want support for to make it at least good rogue?
I just want BRD to not feel like a plant version of dragon link that does nothing.
Same.
With Circle of the Fairies and Diabolantis, the deck actually has some cool combos it can do (search camelia and then normal summon it)
It's just missing good non-tuners, and a good synchro to go into off of Ruddy Rose Witch.
>still have my Super Quantal cards
The arrival of Purrely made me realize Noir is literally just goodMagnus
The Super Quants are just too cool for school.
Same with the Metalfoes.
Metalfoes art is really cool when you look closely at it, but when you just see them on the field the cards are very ugly.
All Beetropers/insect soup need is a good boss monster but for some fricking reason they keep printing combo pieces that you can't even fit most of them anymore.
I disagree. I think its has some good boss monsters. Atlas and hercules are fine. Its bad this meta due to purrely and ariseheart demanding tribute effects. But basically every boss monster dies to that shit anyhow.
I think a better fusion spell, or a link 1 would go a long way to helping insect. Even if the link 1 had no effect and was just a vanilla link 1 insect.
The biggest issue is it requires a lot of shit to get going and has no 1 card combos, hell it barely has 2 card combos, and all of them die to any interruption.
Brother, Atlas and Hercules are not good boss monsters at all, and I'm not even talking about this meta. They're just trash in general. Atlas isn't even a real tower, and even if they somehow made a Branded Fusion for Hercules, it LITERALLY doesn't do anything. In fact you'd probably play it just for the Foolish and Hercules is just a bonus. You can't even sit on Hercules forever because it becomes a vanilla on turn 4. They also don't even protect the rest of your board getting run over like Avramax. In fact, you only summon Atlas as a combo piece to summon Sting Lancer and grab Fly and Sting. You'd much rather link it off for Papillion. They could have made Beargram or Ultimate Great Insect actual boss monsters, but instead they thought it would be funny if the former was not a quick effect, and the latter only on Battle Phase (lol??) on top of needing a field spell active. Trust me man, I coped a lot with insects when they released back when your best boss monster was Beetrooper DPE. They don't need 1 card combos when every other main deck insect is a combo extender.
what the frick
Is there seriously no 1-card in beetrooper? Krawler has fricking five of them (girsu, half the vernusylphs, and aussa).
There's not, but like the anon above you said, that hardly matters when the whole deck is extenders. The other anon is also right though that they're easily chokepointed. An imperm on Armor Horn if it's the only thing on field, or on Picofalena is going to cripple them, or an Ash on Resonance.
is it really a chokepoint though if you just listed like 3 things you'd want to negate
They're all chokepoints. Take your pick and it should be enough.
If Lucifer doesn't bring back some kickass support from his fight with Condemned, Ixchel is going to invoke her rights as goddess of suicide. People WILL DIE.
That would be lovely too, only times I see Dark Lords now is for some dull nurse burn shit.
I was Duel Links'n with Super Quantal
He's Zeus at home
Gods.
why did he go from blue to black
You thought the ancient Egyptians were blue? THEY WERE BLACK KWEENS.
Go far enough into dark blue, and you get black
cydra, they fricking suck
Don't worry bro. 2024 is the year of the LIGHT Duelist Pack. Blue-Eyes, Cyber Dragons, and Galaxy-Eyes will all be saved.
it's sad how bad he is
Red Eyes will never be good or even rouge because anytime there's a good red eyes card it gets stolen by everything else.
Blue eyes need xyz support that us actually theirs
Dinosaur, all these years and it still lacks a proper extra deck boss monster, even with the animation chronicle support dinos still are just "UCT, at least two generic negates and either the big dick triceratops fusion or guardian chimera". KONMAI even went and made a whole new archetype with unique playstyle and effects instead of throwing the OG's a bone. Not that i really mind since these "dinosaurs" are big tittied anime girls and cool looking robots.
>KONMAI even went and made a whole new archetype with unique playstyle and effects instead of throwing the OG's a bone.
and yet, still no 1 card combo..
Infinitracks deserve 8 new cards including a Circular.
>circular is cancer
>my petdeck deserves a circular
FRICK off
This but unironically
Print the Ghoti Circular
Print the Beetrooper Circular
Print the Ogdoadic Circular
Circular isn't the issue; it's Superfactorial and Laplacian.
Circular is just an extender.
an extender that searches and enables the cancer cards
people like you are the reason elf remains unbanned
>enables the cancer cards
That's why petdecks deserve their Circular; they have no cancer cards.
some archetypes are so bad that not even a circular could save them
>ally of justice circular
>worm circular
>war rock circular
Worms unironically were actually seen as good for their time, they just aged like actual dogshit and had the Blackwing problem of endless waves of garbage cards surrounding the actually good center
>initial villain of the DT story line
>are complete shit
good worm support soon hopefully
Worms should be the monocard archetype and punish severely the opponent for having dupes and even harder for triples
>punish severely the opponent for having dupes and even harder for triples
Do you mean in deck or in board? Because it would be a nightmare to enforce IRL if a guy can just go "actually I only have 1 Ash in my deck, trust me".
JUUUUUUUDGE
Quick non OPT or OPC effect that let’s you see the opponent’s hand, deck and GY whenever he activates an effect. If you find dupes, negate and destroy the effect, triples negate and banish face down all 3 cards, mono and your said monster gets banished face down. Also a card that just let’s the opponent see your deck and let’s you see the opponent’s deck and both banish face down all cards that are at more than 1 until there’s only 1 copy of the card in the deck.
>Send one Infinitrack monster from your deck to the grave; special summon this card from your hand.
>An xyz monster with this card as material blah blah blah
>You cannot special summon monsters the turn you activate this effect except machine monsters
>Once per turn
It'd be fine
Witchcrafter
>Field spell that makes the opponent play Witchcrafter as in he has to discard a spell to activate anything and removes hand limit
>Link monster that lets you send 10 Witchcrafter cads to the GY as a cost
>Verre power up that just an enemy board banish face down
>Handtrap (spell) that lets you play in the opponent’s turn
Obelisk and ultimate dragon being the boss monsters for bewd decks, poker knights with osiris, FGD, kuriboh, shinato, silent magician
Give Vampires a field spell that also has similar effect to ZW and some protection against destruction.
>7 out of my last 10 duels were dragon link/had
what a bad fricking time to pick up mathmech
are we gonna get the other two robots for the premium pack?
i really should start playing nib, kashtira Black folk are shitting up the ladder.
Whats a cheap pend deck
Igknight
Dinomist
Majespecter
It's not a pend deck, but you pend summon occasionally with Predaplants, and you don't need any of their URs.
Just played a pend structure to get this. I even won a match.
i just put 40 high and low scale pend monsters in a deck, summoned once and then let my opponent kill me
So, has anyone cooked up some disgusting decks with the newly freed cards here?
There are none, Dragon Rulers are pure ass and Zoodiacs can't do anything funny without Broadbull and/or 3 Ratpier
Tidal is interesting in Tear. Zodiac is an interesting package now that you can potentially end on double Drident imo, although I don't think anything meta can really use it. Monkeyboard is actually a strong card but
>pend
who cares lol
>Zodiac is an interesting package now that you can potentially end on double Drident imo
Read the archetype.
Like, homie, how fricking hard is simply reading the cards?
>first double Drident ,
>then UDF is an omninegate
.
explain this phenomena, Ganker
>he can't manifest plays that just work even if they defy the rules of the game
ngmi
you can hard make second drident frogposter moron. Normal Zoo gives you a drident plus level 4 body so you just need another body to make it(or whatever else you want). With Barrage you can do this without even using a normal.
>another body
based mathlet moron
alright im stupid
RIP BOZO
Imagine their love' child
Would people hate MD exclusive archetypes/support, that would later release on paper of course
dunno how good or bad of a idea that would be
t. someone that doesn't play paper
Promethean princess was almost MD exclusive
Going MD first seems to be the smarter move, really. They can easily gauge the popularity of new cards to be released on paper and adjust prices/rarities/supplies from that data.
Them giving you physical versions of your owned cards in MD for a price is pretty sweet
ratpier to 1 feels dumb
why not just leave it at 2 and errata it to so ratpier can only be summoned once using that effect
i like this build but i'm not sure about the two imperms i see others playing it but it really looks horrible in a deck like vanquish soul any ideas without crafting UR cards?
holy mother of slop
Could just run another borger or the baldrake
If you want more attributes then running DD Crow or Kumungus makes sense. Or you can replace them for Small World if you want. The level 4s all bridge to each other. Or just Jiaolong+Borger number 3.
how do you make noir?
He has one(1) Ghost Reaper.
Monkeyboard+Electrumite is going to KILL master duel
oh no
*sends Maxx C to gy*
anyway
>chain ash
>inb4 n-no! Pends don't play hand traps
lmao cope
Kashtira will keep Pendulums in check as soon as the apes that play it learn that pendulum zones exist.
IM SO HAPPY
I'm happy that you are happy
Dragosack and Big Eye bros where we at?!!!
>All URs
good thing the babies are SRs
As long as Ib stays banned, I don't care.
Shut up whiteoid
i haven't played master duel in months. thinking about playing it again.. is it worth it?
They're giving out free 1k gems just for logging in. At least pick those up.
Congratulations you probably dodged the worst period of this game's history. Things are pretty decent right now, as far as meta cancer goes, though you might need a bit to adjust to what some of the newer shit is like. It's also the 25th anniversary right now so there's some free shit.
So we are gonna have 4 selection packs in rotation now?
Just don't be dumb enough to pull from the bait packs. In early MD they were doing selection packs based on the events, like there was a shitty synchro pack for the synchro event and an even shittier fusion one for the fusion event.
my little brother
They'll free this shit, but still think Dragoon is that bad of a card? Fricking hell.
I think modern decks are at the point where bricks like DM are acceptable payoff for something like Dragoon.
Branded Beast and Driver are certainly not roadblocks for Dragon Link
red eyes fusion is actually a hard garnet though unlike driver or even fusion destiny
what do i do
you stop smurfing in bronze
Its gold actually, I dont play this game enough to keep my rank up
it is a mystery
Hmmm..... well both of those spells would make you lose extra deck cards which is not worth it, and your only normal summon isn't strong enough to beat him, so you should probably set it to protect your life points. Maybe you can bluff him into thinking it's something like a DD Warrior Lady and he won't attack it so you can tribute summon in a couple turns.
Reminder that Galaxy Tomahawk is legal in MD.
and
if you have ways to make it for free it will cause issues even if you ban all the linkspam enablers.
Tears can make it easily and almost ever do. What is your next moronic cope?
tears has no ed space for linkspam and can do better things
> and can do better things
Exactly. Way to prove anons point
I typed tears because I am waiting for this slow playing frick to finish and I meant kash
And it does frick all
>Kashtira is OP
>Kashtira is dogwater
>Kashtira is alright
did we come full circle or what? i'm seeing the deck every third game.
Kash in its current form is a good deck which is really weak to certain cards that everyone was running when the deck was super popular which made it a bad deck which made people stop using it which made people stop spamming its counters.
i guess people stopped running books and TTT, maybe i'll try it in this format could be better, i mean alot of people are playing kash for a reason no way it can be bad.
whenever i played kash on release i always got rolled so i don't have the best view on the deck.
>Kashtira is OP most broken degenerate deck of all time
>Kashtira is dogwater most honest fair petdeck of all time
>Kashtira is alright
The infinite Kashtira cycle (this is samsara)
>go second
>guy is playing bystial thunderdragon
>oh OK
>gets colossus and titan with batteryman+link kuribo+dragon dark
>verte
>chains mask change 2
>dpe+dark law as well
OK yeah frick you
So he has no hand and his board is wiped by evenly because no S/T negates
You can also super poly that shit away so easily
He had ash left and I only had combo extenders no removals. I simply didn't have the out
>monkeyboard
Let’s
fricking
gooooooo
I wanna make a performapal deck purely for aesthetic reasons
They’re just a collection of lil fellas
>Kill Dragon Ruler Consistency cards
>Free the Dragon Rulers
WE WILL NEVER DIE DRAGONCHADS
Master Duel really makes me realize how shit most TCG players and 'theorycrafters' are. So many cards they claim to be 'broken' do jack shit in MD.
Good conceptually and good in practice are vastly different things. A card could be the most busted shit ever but if you have no way to search it and don't open it it might as well be time wizard. Modern meta is all about searching and consistency
Master duel should free plushfire next to show how it won’t do anything either. Also free supreme king dragon starving venom again while we’re at it
A lot of it is just people wanting to have the "correct" opinion, so they hear from someone else how "everyone knows Change of Heart is absolutely busted!" and just repeat it without actually thinking about whether the only thing keeping them from playing Mind Control was the inability to attack.
>Sneed
>VFD
>Rhongo
>Block Dragon
>Union Carrier
>Ishizu Millers
These are the only outright busted cards that MD discovered through raw data
This. The mecha phantom beats don't do shit and are completely freed. Maybe 1-3% of games I run into some bricky fragile gimme variant that dies to any interruption but admittedly makes mast end boards
>VFD
FREE HIM
This but ishizu Millers then ban every single card with "tear" in its name
innocent bystander
A sacrifice I am willing to make
>card part of waifu archetype
>innocent
No such thing. All waifu decks must pay for Tearlament, the blood on their hands
>VERTE NEEDS TO BE BANNED ITS BROKEN ITS BROKEN ITS BROKENNNNNNN
>ban celestial
>Verte literally does nothing for the rest of time
a thousand keks on that one
Verte will be broken again in the future. Its only a matter of time.
when
when some old deck with a deck fusion card gets support in the form of a new fusion monster.
I mean its happened twice now, really no reason it can't happen again.
My guess is its going to be Neos Shit, or maybe even Shaddoll shit.
So a minimum of 18 months? Ok
When are those getting added to Master Duel?
>bro we should preban cards because they might be abused in the future
You gays annoy me
ok, when the releases that are like 8 months ahead of MD reveal Super Shaddoll Fusion that summons a towers Winda by fusing from your own extra deck, I’ll agree that MD should ban verte. Doesn’t seem like there’s a rush right now.
So ban it when it becomes a problem. You're saying a card should be banned for a hypothetical issue that literally does not exist.
I wonder how he feels about snake rain.
And kindeling and a billion other cards
A lot of people think dragoon could return if verte is gone.
I dont see why anyone would want dragoon to return. The game quality would drop a ton. Theres too many nostalgia players as it is. Give them a towers that demands a kaiju, and plays under maxx C and ladder is fricked even more.
I played verte in my red eyes deck currently. its alright. Can get slash dragon or meteor out easily. Is it good? Lol no, but id rather verte be legal doing nothing than risk having dragoon running around.
>Give them a towers that demands a kaiju, and plays under maxx C and ladder is fricked even more.
Dragoon's discard cost is too high to justify running it. The only deck that would use it is Branded, which otherwise has no access to negates. Branded already doesn't run Allister or Mechaba and summoning Verte is awkward because of Branded Fusion's lock.
it's not because there's not one, but two Macro Cosmos decks out there?
Yes? What can vertr cheat out that justifies it as broken?
yeah purrely, dragonlink, and mathmech are so awful right now and are played just as much as verte thanks to shifter being around
Verte ban looks hilarious in hindsight when it literally does nothing in MD, turns out 2 ED cards for a hail mary was dogshit after all
Could it possibly be due to the fact that Dragoon is also banned, and the entire point of bringing out Verte was to bring out DPE and Dragoon?
to be fair TCG doesn't have the Roach which vastly changes how you construct decks. It makes combo decks and power cards stronger since you plain have more space in your deck, and "can set up decent board and follow up in just two special summons if you get maxx cd" is not a relevant concern
BUT THINK ABOUT HYPOTHETHICAL CASES
>BUT THINK ABOUT HYPOTHETHICAL CASES
AH SHIT, WE NEED TO BAN UNEXPECTED DAI FOR WHEN THEY RELEASE THE TIER 0 GEMINI DECK WHICH TREATS THEIR GEMINI MONSTERS AS NORMAL MONSTERS IN DECK HAND AND GY
>WE NEED TO BAN UNEXPECTED DAI
This but unironically, kill all plantrannies
We need to ban Krebons. It was proven in the past to be a problem card.
Wrong, as a matter of fact they're usually right, just that you are examining the claims way longer than the time they're beginning to be made, you're examining claims from a format that is lower power that you don't even play, and because MD and OCG already let some dumb fricking cards be free that are worse than some of the other cards they're talking about so maybe they're not "a problem" when you already have moron shit running around. Like Snow is still legal and one of the dumbest cards ever printed. But you'll have morons coming up and going
>hurrrr it's not doing anything
When it was just fricking moronic a format or two ago in Tear. I see the same thing about Verte like this moron here
because people are stupid and don't understand what really makes a card broken by design and broken by happenstance. That being said on these cards being lifted, I think most people in the TCG have been okay with the idea of the Dragon Rulers for a while. The Zoo shit is still stupid though, especially because MD brought back XSaber Invoker and the first thing people did with it was make an FTK, you're asking for trouble bringing back Ratpier especially if it comes to two. People also forget that OCG had had "no ban" tournaments where Zoo was the second best performing deck after Tear.
That's a dumb argument because Snake Rain has never had the chance to actually prove it is broken, Verte already has.
>it was broken but doesn't do shit now so we should ban it because it might be good later
You are moronic
Yeah man, there's just no telling whether Foolish Burial for 4 could ever be a problem if actually given good targets.
It's okay. None of these cards need to get banned if we simply never print a good card for their Types
>Speed duel card
It's shit.
Snake Rain is obviously bannable but it shouldn't until there is a real reason. Verte has already shown it is bannable, it's just not good in the current decks, this isn't a hard concept.
It's already shown it's bannable when there is shit that makes it bannable, same as Snake Rain. Neither have shit that makes them bannable. Neither are currently bannable.
This is Master Duel though where we have a whole year of warning what is overpowered. Anyway, they really need to ban Tomahawk before Kashtira releases because that'll ruin the whole game. They should still ban Tomahawk for being annoying.
What legal target in master duel makes verte deserve the ban hammer
Ah, here's one of the TCG morons I was talking about
If they're not a problem then they shouldn't be on the list.
TCG won both worlds, cry about it, loser. Slurp that roachwiener more.
They literally don't play. Tcgcucks will play maybe one game a week on average, while mdchads will burn through 20 in an hour. They're basically larpers.
I believe this due to the sheer fact of how fast duels go in MD. And I'm not just talking about Turn count. Everything in MD is almost automated that it really helps the QoL of things.
But TCG plays other simulators, and those have animations that are magnitudes faster than Master Duel
Each time you post this deranged opinion you make more and more people fall in favor in the tcg lol
>things that are broken in one format are tame in others
wow... imagine my shock...
>Monkeyboard
PendGODs we are so back.
now I need to rethink my pend combos after finally deciding what I wanted to do with them at last
next they should unban MR3
How much longer do I have to wait before Icejade Ran gets added?
https://twitter.com/metakuzu/status/1730514096779653395
>mathmech chink starts with maxx c, red reboot, called by, circular and 2 extenders
they don't even try to hide it
Wake me up when Amazoness is finally semi viable
>your one and major weakness is water
>make a ship that creates rain on the spot
What was he thinking?
Guess I’ll throw redox into kashtira armed dragon too…
Is Manadium/Zoo going to be a deck?
659177791
>t. dumb moron who things that electrumite is broken and can never get ubanned
no (yous) for you homosexual
>NOOOOOOO IT LETS YOU DRAW 6 CARDS LITERALLY BEST CARD EVER PRINTED!
Why are TCGkeks like this?
NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MR YOUTUBE MAN AND PROS SAY THIS SO IT MUST BE TRUE
gaylord
How can you people defend Verte when fusing from deck is basically the new powercreep standard now? You could go "it's not a problem in the meta NOW' but it's obviously always going to be a problem card when they decide to release another strong fusion from deck card (which we know they will) so why even keep it legal?
Because Verte is fair, dumbfrick. It has special summon restriction after uses its effect.
>how can people defend verte when every fusion deck does what it does anyway these days
Yeah it sucks but verte isn't moronic for that exact reason. Power creep is simply that far. What are you going yo summon? Fricking DPE?
There's really no good places to discuss YGO on 4chins. You either have dead threads on /tg/, CAC shit and name gays on /dng/, or the dumbest opinions known to man on Ganker.
>Verte is just not good in current decks
>hurrr but what current cards make Verte broken?? Checkmate atheists
So what your saying is... Verte isn't good. You dumb Black person.
>hurrr but what current cards make Verte broken?? Checkmate atheists
branded fusion. you will cry when they got sanctifire and quem
Nice job esl
>sanctifire
Is it doing anything? I havent bothered with the tcg since master duel came out and haven't looked back
feels like the spright elf moron all over again
speaking of spright they are dead, konami hit them way too hard.
>Monkeyboard free
>Ratpier free
>Redox free
Ah hell.
Tidal is whatever at this point so im ok with that one.
Yeah, isn’t it so based? I was super disappointed with md’s last banlist, but this unbanlist makes up for it easily. They should have put rat to 3 though. Maybe next month.
>new season starts time to get some gems
>first match is against runick stun that locks me out on turn one and then he banishes all the cards that could save me
>quit master duel
This game sure knows how to ruin my mood in less then 5 seconds
Its okay, if Little Knight is anything to go by they'll just print Link 2s that do [INSERT VERTE TARGET HERE]'s thing infinitely better so it doesn't really matter
little prostitute
>targets
Its shit. Can't even beat chaos maxx
This card is overrated as frick
it is one of very few just generic link monsters you can plop down that can do something on opponents turn
the other being masquerena, but IP requires a bit more setup
removal is never going to be as good as an extender, it would rather make Dharc, ram it into something and continue comboing rather than sit on a card that takes up a main monster zone after it teleports once
So true, I will make Dharc then use Shien's Spy to give my opponent a monster and enable cheat engine to give myself a battle phase turn 1, then ram it into my opponent's monster to search ummm D.D. Crow
SP is functionally an extender since you're able to turn 2 otherwise useless bodies on field into:
1. A removal for threats on the board/graveyard
2. A recursive interruption for this and next turn
this allows you to play through boards with ease as well as give you a fighting chance when you get handtrapped to death
compare this to dharc who completely relies on your opponent to get value
compounding this with the fact that it's non-destruction removal on both effects as well as the lack of restriction compared to verte, you have an easily meta defining card
Sounds like a much needed going second card
>have a playset of a UR sitting around for like six months
>Every once in a while I have a look to see if it's used in anything that I might want to play
>Find nothing and finally dust all three
>Months go by
>Need the playset back
We have Super Poly at 3 and Verte legal and I've never had someone Verte into Super Poly me. Verte even has the second effect to make an opponent's monster dark.
Yeah I am surprised more people don't use it. Thanks for reminding me my shitty TD deck could use some removal
>go minus 2 to remove 1 dark monster
No thank you.
>guy has 2 monsters
>more than likely has a dark monster already
if you are at point where you can make Verte and get its effect off, opponent's board is already broken
>opponent summons several boss monsters
>bait out all of my opponent's effects
>have two small negated monsters on board
>heh, board broken! Nothing to do here but end my turn and collect my win
>they kill me with their monsters
You actually DO need to break their board before it is broken.
nice made up scenario that literally never happens bro
you should make a youtube channel and talk about it more
A generic link 2 that removes 1-3 monsters and gives you a big beater is actually useful sometimes.
>Buffing pendulums
What?. Konami should be nerfing VS and freeing Branded Fusion instead
>rat rulers and monkeboard.
I don't like where this goes, at least it don't have plushfire.
this b***h good for anything she got some big breasts
Earf piles, what else?
its free 10 ur
sex
Oh my god is that an ugly b***h with big breasts? Zamn!!!!
>monkeyboard.
So we can have kirin now?
i feel like there a hidden UR counter in this game, if i open legacy packs and i get a UR or more in there my next gem pulls will substantially get worse.
>Finally get Tomahawk
>shiny
Nice, I don't have anything that wants to use it lel
>An entire new selection to beg people to play the unbanned cards
Nobody is gonna pull from this, Tidal and Redox are one ofs so you are just better crafting them if you really want them.
>Nobody is gonna pull from this
Y-yeah haha... who would pull for a 2nd and 3rd drident. 3 barrages and 1 ratpier right? Hahaha....
Why couldn't I retaliating "c" mikanko arabesque?
Read
>retaliating "c"
>activates a Spell Card
card vs effect activation
Ah I guess that makes sense.
But on that topic, wouldn't a monsters effect still be a monsters effect in that context? Why would spells be excluded?
Beetrooper. Plus it's pretty good right now against purrely and VS plus some other less relevant decks. At worst it's a way to get resonance or maxx C.
Activating a card means to play a spell/trap from hand to field, or to flip one face up.
the better question is why you're running retaliating "c"
netdecking from asiatic
>pure Kash player sees me add Fenrir to hand with Fenrir
>they immediatly banish my Fenrir on field so I can just summon him again
>ZOODIACS ARE BROKEN!
>do you know what the cards do?
>NO BUT I HEARD PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE BROKEN!!!
>zoo is broken
why?
>uhm a TCG toilet paper collector told me so
oh okay
Lmao seeing papercucks shitting their pants at the new banlist is so funny
Wasn't this the guy shitting his pants at wind-ups being full power and then they did nothing?
Who really even cares anymore, it's the OCG's maxx c format. They'll just print more powercrept cards anyways, no real point to even bother with fake banlists.
>moron's israelite scam is to attract as much attention to his channel as possible
>succeeds
Master Peace limited soon
I know nothing about these Dragon Ruler cards, what deck would use them aside from Dragon Link?
everything that shares their respective element
So i can just dump the water one on my marincess deck?
That is what the original idea was.
Just pick the one that shares an element with your deck and put it in there.
But then people realized you could just make a deck with all the dragon rulers.
let's just be glad a Light or Dark Dragon ruler was ever made in the first place
>let's just be glad a Light or Dark Dragon ruler was ever made in the first place
>never
Water one seems pretty good for Tear with it's discard + foolish burial but the Earth one feels like it would just brick me if I don't open full engine hand.
MBT is the least straightest straight man I've ever seen
He's bi I think.
Monkeyboard is the only card on that list that should stay banned forever.
Frick pend.
>DLINK WILL BE OP WITH DRAHON RULERS
>ACKtually i don't know shit about DLink
These "people" should just disappear
>This primarily LIGHT/DARK-oriented engine will be BROKEN with WATER/WIND/FIRE/EARTH extenders!
>How? uhh erhm... i forgot BUT TRUST ME!
There's a shitton of cards on the banlist that are fervently defended by people that have never read any of them. I've seen people claim Fishborg Blaster is unironically a better Jet Synchron
A non-opt self-summoning tuner (that requires a discard cost and xenolocks the thing it's summoning)?!?!! help me lovecraft, i am going insane!
but bro just think of the atlantean/ghoti combos!?
Well it is not once per turn so you can probably make something moronic with it.
>Well it is not once per turn so you can probably make something moronic with it.
Like what, skip your opponents' turn? Because that is what decks can do right now and no one plays that shit seriously because "FTK your opponent if they don't stop you" is irrelevant.
just keep her until you finish your line and make herald/cupid
also link summon exist now
woah infinite link material...but you have to discard each time and also somehow get a level 3 water on field? Su-fricking-goi, I'm shoving Genex Undine into my deck right away to combo off with Fishborg
Really though with telefon existing, any tuners that can special themselves from grave should be unbanned. Glow up bloom, level eater and the like should be at 3.
telefon requires setup though
level eater is the only one that cannot come back
what are you link climbing into with fishborg
Does D-Link even care for anything that isn't LIGHT or DARK?
>tidal
I am unironically happy
Guys im having the biggest regret building Kashtira its so bad
i dont regret unicorn and fenrir, what i do regret is buying the second wave of ariseflop
Kashtira is the worst "best deck" of all time.
It so bad, but it is also borderline unbeatable.
>Kashtira as a deck
if you relax around kashtira you deserve to get punked by it, i carry my nibiru with me always close so whenever i see kashtira i nuke them on sight.
>YOUR NOSE IS MINE
is VS actually a gaygit deck? i hate gayddit tier "humour" so fricking much
>is VS actually a gaygit deck?
what does this mean even.
*white woman jumpscares you*
staring at your smol "tower"
post her hebe version
Cool, now free Merrli.
How many of the new branded cards do i need?
all of them
I mean copies of each
Assess your list and be the judge of that
Lulu, Quem, White Albion, the trap is optional
you also want dis pater as branded regained can revive him
Can someone give me a quick rundown+list for sexosisters? I like their nazi uniforms.
Here's my list that made it to M1 last month, their playstyle is pretty simple and your endboard is generally Magnifica with Mika/Kasp as material + Returnia set.
>nazi uniforms
Did you not notice the hexagrams on Stella and Elis's heads?
If you're implying they're israeli that doesn't stop them from being Nazis anon. Hitler literally believed he got to chose who was and wasn't israeli even if they were 100% israeli.
Many of even the highest ranking Nazi generals were israeli because whatever the frick his real intentions were it definitely had nothing to do with caring about israelites.
maybe he was just really bored
I don't think any of the highest ranking israeli Nazi generals were ever brazen or identified with their israeli side enough to wear the symbol they literally used to identify israelites with
Most of unlimited Zoo's power came from its ability to establish boards through "le handrip trio" because every card's a starter. This obviously changed when Tears made most of them suck ass. Bemusingly, Tears is also why Kashtira is the 2nd best deck because Tear IS the deck to beat and Kashtira is just about the only deck that can realistically stand up to it consistently
Lol no, when tear is banned from unlimited events DLink completely dominates.
Yeah that's why I said Kashtira is the 2nd best Unlimited deck (with the context of Tears)
They probably thought a bunch of blonde christian girls with military uniforms was a bit too much so they added the star of David just in case, but they don't really have any israeli themes like Shadoll and Zefra had.
My wife Sophia does not have blonde hair.
>really fricking hate the idea of a monster resurrecting
>main deck monsters only kvetch at said resurrection and attempts to prevent it after it happens
>all canonically worship planets (Moon, Venus, Saturn) (as per the VBEX) associated with them (Hubal can be seen as the Arabian Baal, Lucifer, Saturn)
>their leader Martha, has her japanese name also translatable as the demon Malphas, and her quick Xyz effect works on anyone, including her teammates, fricking with the GY
>also, hyperxenophobic and the only engines they run include the Tamas (spirits of a pagan world), Dinomorphias (terrorist freaks), and Cyberdarks (known to have canonically enslaved Black Dragons)
It's all about subtext anon.
>flat
no wonder troony love her
>monke but no plushfire.
Worthless. And pend magician get zarc support either way, would be better skip to something like pend witch and exceed.
still worthless even with plushfire
Wakaushi have lot of pesky limitations. Its btoken but sometimes you need spells for search or anything.
will they ever unban the zoos in the TCG?
I don't get it, why are papergays so scared of one targeting pop?
BUT ZOOS HAVE SO MUCH SPACE FOR STAPLES ANON
Just ignore full power tear utterly destroying full power Zoo every single time in unrestricted format
Full power tear is downright stupid. Nothing on game can even compare.
the boys are back in town
and it won't do anything at all
>morons be scared of this dogshit
oh no flame metal+seals pass
the horror
Ermmm actually, it can end on Ariseheart AND Seals.
arise is bad in drulers
you want your rulers and fodder in the GY so you can resummon them again
You can automatically attach them and get their floating effects every turn as a sort of "I am going to kill you into the sun if you out this Ariseheart and don't kill me on that turn"
I mean Ariseheart pass is infinitely better than whatever other endboard DRuler could make
>Seals
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE NOT THE UNDER MAXX C DLINK BOARD, I'M GOING INSANE
>No Red Eyes shit
>No Remus
>No normal for Dragon Shrine
>No Vologerniges
>No Baronne for Ash
This list fricking garbage
Why is cyberse slop allowed to special summon a trillion times in 1 turn? I hate this stupid deck so much.
Because there are many other decks that summon a trillion times turn 1.
>zoo and rulers come back to just die to some shitty cat and math
People seething at Drident when this shit is allowed to exist will never not be funny
I'm remembering the dude who said that somehow Ariseheart was harder to out than this and I'm still rather curious as to what theoretical card Noir eats shit to that Ariseheart does not
It's harder to out because it more specifically requires a Kaiju or Xyz Encore to deal with it. Ariseheart was susceptible to common forms of interruption like DRNM (never run because shangri), Book of Moon/Eclipse (run because of shangri), etc. It's also harder to set up against Noir and you can't really swing over it until it start ripping your field up.
No, the dude was saying Ariseheart was the card that was harder to out
Oh I literally read that backwards, my mistake.
Level eater is balanced
Gods, granted it's less support and more so they need retrains and a whole new set of cards not related to the old support.
I legitimately think they should print support cards for anime cards they refuse to retrain like Sacred Beasts, Cyberdarks and God cards that permanently give the monsters additional effects along with some other decent effect like searching or whatever
rulers are gate guardian support
Technically speaking, so is Birth since they are 7s
>Kashtira Gate Guardian
Oh no
sure just make your kash deck worse
>Make Brickstira even Brickier
I know monkeyboard can search joker but what else is he usefull for?
he can also search pendulum sorcerer
what does mannadium actually DO?
is it just generic synchro engine
and does maxx c frick it
>fairies
It synchro summons into the usual 3+ negates or Standby Phase King Calamity.
Yes, but there are things you can do to not get an auto-loss.
they search a negate
I HECKIN' LOVE SEARCHABLE OMNI NEGATE COUNTER TRAP
>doesn't negate S/T effects from GY
not an omni
Cryme a river.
You pair it with Scareclaw to turn it into a vsauce deck that can end on Baronne/Vicious Astraloud/Tri-Heart I think/a few others I don't remember off the top of my head. They don't interact as strongly with Kash/Tear but they're a visaslop deck
>own Scareclaw
So I guess I should be rolling for the next selection pack.
No meta deck would play him if he was unbanned today
go away VWgay
n-no!
This is true, but I think that trying to make decks whole sole purpose is to get gay turnskip cards banned months after they're done wringing it dry instead of just banning them is moronic and gay
>rank 9
>making generaiderBlack folk even MORE cancerous
Will mannadium supass HERO as the most expensive deck?
Extra deck to 20 when?
I need more space so I can fit more engines
Actually a good idea, limiting the ED to 5 would cure a lot cancer.
We are finally free, bnuuy bros
>that bulge
You LOVE Waifu Archetypes.
Only Futarynth and Futalight
that's just her cannon, she stores it in her pantaloons
Well she can blast in me any day
>heh why would you ban a card when its doing nothing?
>wtf where did this auto win combo troony deck come from?! BAN IT KONAMI BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT
This general is so braindead
why are you here then
>Different people argue for different things
Woah...
homie
the cognitive dissonance is this shit general is ridiculous, you'll have schizos defending combo enablers with their fricking lives and in the same post calling people trannies for wanting maxx C banned.
troony
>vs Manipulator of Souls OTK
>Imperm his Numeron Dragon
>still proceeds with the coombo
This HAS to be an actual bot. No other explanation.
You lost, dumbfrick, move on.
>TCGkek STILL impotently seething
grim
go back to your discord bro
FREE HIM
>your opponent banishes 3 monsters from their deck
I feel like we are getting to a point where that effect will become so much of a downside where you can reasonably unban 95
Name 37 decks that benefit from banishing 3 monsters from the deck on their opponent's turn
>its elf schizo
WEW
>elf schizo
QRD?
do i need more than one copy of auroradon
not really
>name 37 decks
I shouldn't find this funny, and yet...
>try to play Earth Machines again
>immediately matched with the first Cydra player I've seen in almost 3 months
Your Derricrane pop with Dora?
Your Citadel?
Your Urgent schedule chump blockers?
>finally a DM Chad among all the meta slop
>it's just some DPE homosexual
Seems even gold will remain unplayable for the coming days.
He'd be making Dragoon if orientals weren't so traumatized
Am I free yet?
no yuma
FRICK. Is F0 free at least?
f0 has never been banned in MD
He's banned too except for when he randomly pops up in the pack opening animation for no reason.
The fact that Myutants legitimately have 0 cards that plus off being banished is hilarious
Don't worry, Myutant scholar, when Gren Maju gets his retrain/support you will be able to sneak some of his engines into Myutants
So when are they unbanning Merrli?
gay homosexual general
Hi.
Hi.
the literal worst boss monster ever
Yubel is worse.
yubel doesn't have a convoluted summing method
ENTER
they ruined him
they did print a retrain with that mechanic
>summon the original Armityle during the EP
>it has 0 ATK during your opponents turn
how the frick can you inflict battle damage to a monster? god the anime writers are so moronic they don't even know how the game works
The card doesn't actually attack, it just applies its effect to simulate a battle in the main phase. Then it can actually attack for real in the battle phase.
Actually interesting card design.
that's not how you would write that effect
I'm out of gems and Gate Guardians are en route. It's so over...
use that
No...I just used that on a new computer... that's blown through my "be moronic" budget for the next 2 months...
>Royal Finish Advent of Adventure
Well shit, now I have to build Floo.
>No Broadbull
How come were getting another dc cup this month? Isn't it too early for another one?
what are the numbers and why are there so many of them/why are they so varied
its anime thing
Watch Zexal to find out. Its worth it by the end.
zexal morph always made me laugh with how yuma just straight up cheats
This is meant to be part of someone's soul and memories btw
Soon....
Master Peace, Dragoon, and Merrli should all come off the banlist.
Recontract universe in master duel when?
Ratpier is a 1 card XYZ combo right? Are we going to see decks with extra deck space running a Zoo package now?
it doesn't do anything at 1
You realize NS Ratpier send Ramram is a 1 card free Utopic Future right? It doesn't even take more than 2 cards in the main deck so expect to see the Zoo package being played.
How much ED space?
oh no 1 omni negate
are we going to complain about baronne next?
You do realize this combo
>requires a NORMAL SUMMONED ratpier
>requires 4 extra deck slots (FOR 1 NEGATE) and if you want to go for a zeus engine that number goes into the stratosphere
>plays into nibiru
>dies to every handtrap in the world
Man shut the frick up
>his deck needs his normal summon
>his deck needs extra deck slots
Other 2 points are dumb because making them waste Nib/handtraps on a random Ratpier combo is a good thing.
>his deck needs his normal summon
>his deck needs extra deck slots
Good decks usually do 🙂
>a handtrap for a normal summon is a bad trade
Goldie
if the normal summon is worthless
so why aren't running adventure in every single deck eh?????
Because they limited the fricking cards?
Main deck space is more important than extra deck space.
its really funny seeing people doompost about Ratpier at 1 when they can't even read the fricking card.
>I imagine an out and suddenly my card becomes it
Why do people watch that shit?
Its cool thats why.
That was and still is cool. That weirdo with the xyz isn't.
it wasn't cool, he got robbed
>he doesn't possess the divine spark to will the exact card he needs to existence and in his hand
NGMI
>I imagine an out and suddenly my card becomes it
That's pretty much Thrust in a deck full of board breakers.
every Yugioh protagonist does it, if anything Zexal is one of the less offensive examples because iirc opponents start doing it too.
Literally everyone in the anime is cheating. Kaiba with infinite money, Mai used perfumes, Pegasus with the eye.
Pendulum was literally created because Yuya was losing with a bunch of bricks in hand.
Sleight of hand and magic tricks are one thing.
"I imagined the out so Mom says I win" is another.
Yuya introducing an entire new summoning method in the middle of a match is the peak of yuigoh
>unabnned the fricking zoodiacs AND DRAGON RULERS AND FRICKING PEPE
What a massive mistake this is. These kinds of cards need to stay on the list forever, what the frick is Konami thinking?
Like if you want to unban something do Kirin or Merli, not this shit. Can't wait for the ladder to be spammed with degen shit. Frick this game
>Teargay whining about broken cards and degen decks
The king of games cheats. Why don't you?
Block, Dragon Ruler of Legos
thank god he's dead
Should go back to 1
>Tidal unbanned
Tearbros! New Tech!
>tears which are all dark except for visas which doesn't even trigger since he has to be sent by card effect and not cost
And read the effect afterwards?
oh wow a 2 card combo that requires you to have both at hand
>tidal is completely dead with any other tear name
might as well just run foolish burial
Well, I play 2x Gamaciel. It's just a card I can consider putting in.
thanks for discarding your kaiju that could have been used on my big fat cat
Will this save Adamancipators?
They printed an entire archetype of Redox called Vernusylph and they do nothing, because the problem was always the Ishizu cards
Vern locks Adams out of sloppa
good thing it doesn't
the block shitter is dead which allowed that cancer of a deck to thrive
Not without Block Dragon. Imagine having no reliable search at all. It is the same kind of issue where Purrely quickplay spells hits are big deals since the deck have no consistent ways of accessing specific quickplays
Someone here play generaiders? How consistent are they?
You get to the field spell more often than not but an ash on DP still hurts.
You can try and coombo into a few handrips though.
I don't know but they always manage to open the god hand when they play against me.
generaider is a Black person deck
>make expensive, soulful stardust synchron deck
>when I don't brick it either dies to one handtrap or my opponent instascoops when I negate their disruption
🙁
Just had a fun duel vs Stardust as Vampires, like one in twenty non meta gays in gold.
Naturia Barkion or Exterio, Spright Elf, Mask of Restrict, Spright Pixies in GY, Secret Village of the Spellcrafters, some level 2 Spellcrafter on the field.
Can any card or deck get over this board?
dark ruler
>secret village
you need a spellcaster on field first but otherwise yeah
Hmm. I wonder if you can make a truly unbreakable board.
You can with Ice Barriers using their upcoming support and a copy of Mask of Restrict.
More specifically,
>Normal Summon Mirror Magic Master
>Special Summon Georgius
>MMM effect tribute Georgius to summon 3 Ice Barrier tokens
>Winds over the Ice Barrier tributing all 4 to summon Defender, Cryomancer, Dance Princess, and Warlock
>MMM effect add another Ice Barrier monster to your hand (for Dance Princess' effect)
>Set Mask of Restrict
Warlock shuts off all spell cards until your opponent's next turn and Dance Princess can bounce them back to the field, while Defender and Cryomancer are two different flavors of Gravity Bind. Mask of Restrict prevents them from tributing your cards away with Kaijus too.
The one blind spot is trap cards, but one could probably find a way to stop them with Denko Sekka and/or Jinzo, granted they figure out how to get them out in the first place
Am I missing something here or does this have literally nothing stopping the opponent from activating monster effects or just making a Zeus?
Jinzo/Spell Canceller/Majesty's Fiend/Dark Simorgh/Last Warrior from Another Planet
>Jinzo/Spell Canceller/Majesty's Fiend/Dark Simorgh/Last Warrior from Another Planet
doesn't stop hand or gy effects so anything pitching tackle crusader outs Spell Canceler and then you just eat Raigeki
>doesn't stop hand or gy effects so anything pitching tackle crusader outs Spell Canceler and then you just eat Raigeki
LOL
How are you sending and resolving a Tackle Crusader without being able to activate Monster Effects
Feels like you forgot to add something, something that can just summon a bunch of big beaters like the old 8 Axis deck can just walk all over your board.
FREE HER
NEVER
I don't see how Zoodiac would be a massive issue in modern meta, considering how all the main deck monsters can't special summon themselves.
Even with Barrage, their normal summon reliance is a HUGE LIABILITY (modern meta full of constant removal disruptions)
CHINK!!! YOU'RE A CHINK!!! MY HECKING CHUNGUS WHOLESOMERINO YUGITUBER SAID IT WOULD BREAK THE META!!1!1111
Two banlists in a row that konami stole from my diary
>i have consistently predicted ban list hits with 80% accuracy
thanks for reminding me about that, people are looking at me funny because i laughed audibly
Would the unbanned Zoodiac cards gives form to a new form of Spright Tri-brigade Zoodiac?
Any deck with spright in it is just regular old spright slop with a slight twist.
so are they finally going to ban him?
No, why would they
its to save players from poor deck building choices
then they should ban all the HERO cards
lets not get too crazy
they still want to make money
No
Zooos
your called by?
I feel like Zoos + Kashtira is a viable and powerful deck now, since Kash doesn't NEED their Normal summon. Extra points by tossing in the Brave Engine and maybe even DPE. It's been said before that Kashtira is better as an engine, and what it lacks is good negates. Well, Zoos offer a 1 card combo into an omninegste.
>Zoos offer a 1 card combo into an omninegste.
????
>muh rulers
>muh pends
When dis pater is just about to drop.
You are not ready.
don't worry. apple is UR
will dispater save branded or will i have to pick up dragon link
>the deck that wants to make fusions
>konami gives it synchro support
branded will not play dis pater
Branded already plays Dis Pater, moron. Why the hell do you think Cartesia is a tuner?
with quem you don't need branded fusion
Oh shit Quem was leaked?
They clearly want you to use ecclesia (4) with a bystial (6), it's also why Luluwalith wants a level 4 tuner.
Cartesia and Quem are tuners
Branded can make Synchros pretty easily
>he forgot someone
Alt-art Charmers
I don't care, release the Wind and Aqua charmer searchers.
that nobody will use. thanks konami!
>take a meta deck
>splash in old anime card brick
>call it anime card deck
Why do people do this?
free toad
free swap frog
frick it ill even take nimble beaver to 3
spright is going to be a rogue deck at this point
>spright is going to be a rogue deck at this point
It already is
n-noo my gishki spright can still
Good!
>xe doesn't play yatagarasu spright
nice