10 years later and this character redesign is still mind blowing. Absolutely INSANE downgrade in every way.

10 years later and this character redesign is still mind blowing. Absolutely INSANE downgrade in every way. What the frick were they thinking?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are you talkin about, oras May is great.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      may’s design is an improvement but brendan’s is absolutely terrible.

      may looks like a toddler instead of a 10 year old

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bow is moronic, May is a TOMBOY. She doesn't base her wardrobe around looking cute, its all practical clothing. She wears a bandana to keep her hair up and out of the way while she's hiking through the wilderness. She's wearing gloves for the same reason. May keeps her shoulders covered because she's not a prostitute.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay gramps, i'll keep on jacking off to this cutie.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >turn bandana around
        >RRUUUUIIIINnNNNEEEEDDDDD

        this but unironically

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >May is a TOMBOY
        moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always thought May's hair was short in the back, not put up. The ORAS design has the back the same length as the front, not as cool.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >She doesn't base her wardrobe around looking cute, its all practical clothing. She wears a bandana to keep her hair up and out of the way while she's hiking through the wilderness
        Sugimori confirmed her design was based on fashionable biking outfits of the era.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She wears a biking outfit in a game that introduces a bunch of new bike mechanics and puzzles. So she dresses practically.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wearing a biking outfit doesn't mean tomboy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sapphire is a tomboy. May has always been more of a girly girl all the way up to liking contests.

        In RSE, you can choose your rival’s name, but ORAS very clearly names her May.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In RSE, you can choose your rival’s name
          Wrong.
          But yeah, don't know where that other anon's headcanon would come from other than his brain mixing May's traits with Sapphire's. May never read as a tomboy to me at all, not in the original games and especially not in the anime.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >May never read as a tomboy to me at all, not in the original games and especially not in the anime.

            Yep. The anime and mange actually create split timelines based on the parents:

            Sapphire is the professor’s kid.
            May is Norman’s kid.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              At least Norman has two children in the anime. But he should have more children with such a hot wife.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how every fan depiction or official without the bandana treats her as if her hair is just like that. Then ORAS went ahead and made it even more explicit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The shorts over bike shorts thing always looked weird

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    may’s design is an improvement but brendan’s is absolutely terrible.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    emerald had the only passable brendan design

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care what the artist's original intent was, EVERYONE who played R/S/E though Brendan had white hair and though it was cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What if we fused the protagonist and rival of Mega Man Battle Network?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My hair actually started going white/grey when I was 10-11, I just assumed it was a normal thing, especially after seeing Brendan.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at the difference between the RSE and ORAS artwork is demoralizing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nu-may still cute and busty but I hate
      >skinny as frick
      >Clothes look painted on the skin
      >Weird aditional details out of nothing
      >Clown shoes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The double pants for Brendan's emerald design are kinda silly, but besides that yeah straight downgrade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amazimg 3 iterations of May and they're all perfect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad both were hugely improved from that shit Sugimori did.
      Hoenn redesigns saved the region snd everyone in it except Tabitha and the erased Frontier Brains.
      The new designs are fresh, get fanart and blend with the other MC updated designs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the modern may design better because I prefer thin and feminine designs for women. The rest of the remake can suck my dick though. Especially those horrible villain redesigns.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay now that is pretty bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is going on with Emerald Brendan's pants

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cute exposed pits, but I like the old Eric Frankhouser calves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When it comes to Brendan I vastly prefer ORAS. His clothes look a lot more suited to the region he's in. He's in short sleeves now and his fit looks like something a surfer might wear. A lot more comfortable then the stuffy longsleeves/pants he had in R/S. Double pants in Emerald looks fricking moronic.

      All May's iterations are solid, no complaints with the redesign. On the contrary, HGSS's redesigns are objective downgrades, yet no one complains about that. Like seriously, fricking capris? Are you kidding?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, but he also looks like he eats glue in ORAS and the art itself looks like it was made with the bendy line tool

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >objective

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Why is this b***h dressed like a lost Mario brother? Kris mogs

          Brendan is from Johto, why the frick would he be a dark skinned surfer

          Why's it matter where he's from? He's dressed accordingly for the region he's currently in, Hoenn, which is made up of rainforests and vast ocean. His gen 3 iterations are overrated because of nostalgiatards.
          >dark skin
          it's barely darker than any of the other PCs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's barely darker
            Put nu-Brendan and nu-Kris next to each other and say that again you goddamn moron

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, he's barely darker you dumb homosexual. I got way more tanned than this last summer when I worked for a lawn-mowing service.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >barely darker
                What a mutt skin color lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What a mutt skin color lmao
                so unironically the average jap

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >average jap
                Nips literally do not have that skin color from the region Johto is based on, holy shit get yourself checked out for brain damage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brendan is from Johto, why the frick would he be a dark skinned surfer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruby-Sapphire designs had their issues. Strange faded colors and the overly thin eyes. Emerald hit the sweet spot however and everything after is a downgrade

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where did their calves go?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ingame chibis are even worse. Probably the second worse downgrade after no battle frontier.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RS Brendan is as goofy ahh homie, but I'll admit that old May looked better

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still triggered that they don't wear blue in the sapphire version.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only issue here is that May's breasts aren't big enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She’s 10?!

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another egregious downgrade:
    Where happened to her tan?! Why add all those ridiculous extra details to her clothing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man I really miss sugimori's style in gen 3
      it was the last bastion of the classic style before they went full onions in gen 4

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hoenn was really the last gasp of SOVL in the franchise. The last game that could directly tie it's lineage to the originals.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao no. hoenn was the start of the departure from the originals. hoenn was the start of masuda's headcanon. pokemon ended with gen 2.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >masuda's headcanon
            And what is Masuda's headcanon?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the entirety of pokemon franchise from gen 3 all the way to gen 7. gen 8 was the start of ohmori's headcanon though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Describe Masuda's headcanon. How is it different from gen 1-2?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This basically explains it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Game Corner removed
                That was because of some EU game convention. Otherwise they were only allowed to sell their games to adults in the EU.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Exp share
                I still believe there's nothing wrong with the exp share, a party exp system isn't anything new
                Gamefreak just didn't even attempt to balance for it in gen 6

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't the gen 1 exp share have the same effect as the exp share in gen 6 just that the experience points were split instead of generating some new experience points out of nowhere?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, was the exp all. Split exp the way sending multiple pokemon into battle did
                Fair enough way to balance it, since it makes levels not as bloated so level curves and learnsets can reasonably remain the same

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and gen 8, and 9
                they were close to making it work in gen 7 but ruined it with a bunch of other safety net features to make the game moronproof

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I absolutely can believe someone made this, and I wish him the best in his life cause he needs it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Play the games. If you did, replay them again but this time, do not mash that A button, read everything, and allow your brain cells to connect with each other.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Him directing the games instead of Tajiri, the creator of the series.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >before they went full onions in gen 4
        lol ok dude.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          these have got to be the gaygiest character designs lol. hoenn boys got the ZEST

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          these have got to be the gaygiest character designs lol. hoenn boys got the ZEST

          Reminder that these men get all the b***hes. Women go wild for them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why add all those ridiculous extra details to her clothing?
      My assumption is that because they’re trying to design for “3D”, they add extra details that can be shown off

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man I really miss sugimori's style in gen 3
      it was the last bastion of the classic style before they went full onions in gen 4

      >Why add all those ridiculous extra details to her clothing?
      My assumption is that because they’re trying to design for “3D”, they add extra details that can be shown off

      nostalgic boomers her redesign is better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it man. Why didn't they just do the same thing they did for Phoebe? I'm fine with changing the art style, but why change a perfectly good design?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seeing all these changes made me think that maybe it was a japanese trend to transform characters from believable to ridiculous noodles. Toriyama fell for that too

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Toriyama fell for that too
          And it killed him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did made her boobs a tad smaller though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      nostalgic boomers her redesign is better

      Bro Zoomers are cooked if they actually prefer left over right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tan
      >RSE
      wut?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >flannery tan good
      >brendan tan bad
      make up your fricking minds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >flannery tan good
        >brendan tan bad
        Yes. That is correct.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ehh i prefer the new one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tans are gross

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    May's oras design is fine but nu-Brendan is heinous.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not a single protag remake redesign has ended up better than the original counterpart

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RS Brenden always looked like some moronic slav.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    may was unfortunate, but it's not like brendan took a big hit. he was already a mess, even after two revisions to his character

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >music was 90% a downgrade
    >character redesigns were mostly downgrades too
    we were so close to the perfect experience

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all redesigns are shit, even the ones from hgss. They should've just gone the bdsp route and not ruin the characters.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They should've just gone the bdsp route and turned Pokemon into MySims
      No

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I vividly remember my soul being crushed when I first got to Mauville. Unironically soul vs soulless

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a bunch of shitty houses with nothing in them and copy/pasted mart/center/gym is better than something with actual content

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >city with nothing in it
      >city with something in it
      the only thing that was lost in the changes ORAS made was the game corner and it would've gotten cut either way
      this whole thread is one big nostalgiagay circlejerk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the uggo kalos statue in the center

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ORAS is the bad timeline where Wattson won

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing VS content
      holy frick please just come to terms that your youth has gone

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Massive May Milker
    >downgrade

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's literally flatter

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I demand one of you Zoomer shills to defend this abomination of a redesign.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOO! WHY DID THEY ADD A SWEATER!
      The admin redesigns are far more egregious than the grunts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >wearing sweaters on a volcano in a tropical region
        Yeah I hope you magmahomosexuals die from overheat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick they have sweater fabric even in the fricking shoes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i don't know what socks are

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do they have sweater socks shoes whatever on a tropical region

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so they don't get blisters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >right
      looks like adults in an evil org, up to some real evil shit and they'd beat you up even if their pokemon lost
      >left
      looks like some kill la kill highschool student shit that just strike poses for intimidation. guy has fricking crocs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Female grunt is hotter now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unpopular opinion but all the aqua and magma original desings were shit. They all look like random ass boring people with little personality. Turning Archie black was also a huge upgrade.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Turning Archie black was also a huge upgrade.
        t. leftist mongrel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          White fragility!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He looks cooler
          Simple as, wh*teboi

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick you!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I like both
      Now what, c**tychops?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since the other anon's post was removed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jimmy Olson and Wally West deserved to get Black person-fied. Frick them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good
        Hawkgirl, Heimdall, Electro (No Way Home), Jimmy Olsen, Alice Monaghn, Annie (UUUOOOOHHHH)
        >Bad
        Triss, Electro (Amazing Spiderman), Flash, Iris West
        >IRREDEEMABLE
        Black personmaid, starBlack person

        See? Not everything is bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      improved

      all of them are improved

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dilate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Team Aqua in general has the same issue. Their designs were so simple that they were boring in the original, but the Alpha Sapphire redesigns went way too fricking far and turned them into moronic clowns.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Regular grunts are okay. The Admins are the ones that look like lazy town designs lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a fetish for striped tights so I win with ORAS, mald, seethe, die, etc
        But otherwise I genuinely like both sets of designs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both designs are hot so who cares

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      left is better genetically

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it man. Why didn't they just do the same thing they did for Phoebe? I'm fine with changing the art style, but why change a perfectly good design?

      >removed the cleavage
      GAYfreak

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Right is better and I'll die on that hill. But I always played Ruby so who cares what I think.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick you!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not wanting a threesome with Dark is Special only Redhead and Mega Evo bodysuit Ebony
      Thats how I know you're a gay

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS May has a great design, but definitely looks like a different character. Should have made her one too.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cursed

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot people find Roxanne's redesign better than her old design Though i prefer the original one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too, I get that the grey's supposed to represent rock types but the blue just looks nicer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The original design is literally the nosepass color scheme, that was the sense of it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nerfed her legs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I adored her old design growing up, but the broad skirt with peticoat and shoulder straps, PLUS brighter iconic pink tights, its just too much, I love her new design so much its no contest.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    truth

    ORAS sucked ass and ruined Hoenn

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thank ARCEUS they didnt touch Dawn and Cynthias designs in BDSP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its funny because the legends designs were really fricking good for dawn/lucas and all the ancestors I don't think you can frick up Dawn even if you tried your hardest.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single redesign looks better except for May and that's mainly because if you're playing as Brendan, she doesn't look like the daughter of the professor who likes to be out there with nature. Plain looking characters worked out better in previous gens because the plot about Team Rocket was far more grounded than "eco terrorists want to summon a world ending deity because Japan needs more or less land"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Old Winona and Wallace are way better

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like both versions of Wallace.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why has no one mentioned that Brendan's original design has him wearing a sweater and long pants for some reason? Brendan I'd say is the one protag design that is better in a remake than the original. Red, Gold, Kris (Lyra) and May are downgrades, I agree

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS May is an UPGRADE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always found it really funny how defined her ass got in the ORAS arc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They both wear spats, homosexual, what're you mad about?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 6 Hoenn has some sauce with the villain designs, but it has no soul otherwise

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You only see the "chibis" for 99.9% of the game so what does this matter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Matters for everything else outside the game. Most spin-offs, merchandise, and other media adaptations would use the remakes over the originals now.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Brandon has white hair

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Generally speaking, it seems like they redesigned the characters to have fantasy costumes rather than clothes worn in a grounded setting

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS May is sexy as frick. Only Mutts agree (they like fat girls).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most comprehensible ESLpost.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My two Courtney wives

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ORAS Courtney is the only good redesign. But her original in the manga is also good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it's just because I watched the Hoenn anime a few years before I played the games but I prefer May's anime/RS design over her other designs. I also prefer Brendan's RS design over his other designs despite me only having played Emerald and Omega Ruby and not the original Ruby and Sapphire.
    Their Emerald designs are also good but their ORAS designs are weak compared to their other designs. I also prefer May's anime design over her fangs Pokemon Special design.
    The anime just shaped my view of May very heavily. Not so much with Dawn but there was still an anime influence in my view of Dawn.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Anime shaped May
      Made me think about how games' May is supposed to follow the trend of the mc being a sporty 90's brat while in the anime they made her more feminine with her interests being shopping, leisure traveling fashion, contests and food

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS indeed ruined May

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    May and team aqua were upgrades

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like all Mays

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Archie is Asian

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pacific Islanders are dark as frick.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh look it's another episode of "geriatric old frick tries to find things to get mad about"

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Upgrade or downgrade?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Before

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >homosexuals will say that the redesigns are their own characters when USUM confirms that the OG Archie and Maxie are working with Rainbow Rocket
    I fricking hate this gay earth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >too stupid to understand the multiverse
      Dios mio...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point is that Black personhomosexuals will justify ORAS Archie/Maxie et al. because of multiverse logic, since they don't override the originals according to USUM.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon's art design was at its best when it was shamelessly ripping off Dragon Ball. They need to go back to it. Squat square goofy-looking characters and weird futuristic tech everywhere.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weird futuristic tech everywhere
      what do you mean, aside from the pokedex and pokeballs only gen 1 really had some weird futuristic tech with the silph scope/time machine, after gen 1 the most futuristic shit added would be each gens cellphone gimmick and they were basically just the average japanese phone at the time with a more exaggerated design. Pokegear/Nav were phones at the time, poketch was like a fricking blackberry, cgear was closing in on early smartphone type stuff. I wish we'd go back to that style of contraption instead of the modern smarphone though you are correct

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's my point. Gen 1 had the best art design.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gen 2 actually

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gen 1 had the art style I prefer the most
          We all make this type of mistake often, but we rarely admit it

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really want to be RS May right now, her skirtie is so cute and I like her bandana.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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