>100,000+ people playing on Steam alone. >zero talk about it anywhere

>100,000+ people playing on Steam alone
>zero talk about it anywhere
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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another mp only shooter that will be forgotten

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      this.
      its a normie valorant/pubg/apex shooter thats been done before thousands of times. I could not give of a shit about this game. I'm honestly surprised the genre hasn't died yet, but i guess its mostly zoomer/fortnite babies that are still playing BR shooters.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    NPCs never start dialogue, you have to talk to them first.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most people who play crap like this are regular socially well adjusted dudes, they talk better than you, that's why they're not on Ganker

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        SPEAK
        they SPEAK better than you.

        You're welcome. Thank me later for helping you talk gooder.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm french, I invented england.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just because someone is on Ganker doesn't mean they're socially well adjusted. It just means they've been gatekept in some fashion.

        Mostly coomer pics, no one really talks about the game

        There is gameplay discussion in those threads regularly in spite of the schizos talking about their chink conspiracy headcanon and "degen is only okay when nips do it" posters. You need to up your spamming if you wanna derail them entirely.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There is gameplay discussion in those threads regularly
          There's really not.
          There's vague discussion about some story stuff here and there, but I've been in hundreds of BG3 threads at this point and rarely do I ever see people talking about how to get so and so item or what builds are good or looking for advice on what to do.
          That said I think the game is fantastic and absolutely GOTY. It's just bizzare as frick how little of any given BG3 thread is actually about the gameplay itself. It's always full of disingenuous trolls arguing with easily baited idiots, and coomers, while two or three dudes try their hardest to actually talk about the game.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        imagine the seething someone has to name this image this and post it in response to an anonymous poster loool

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    People that actually play games don't waste time shitposting on forums.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thread should have ended here.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thread should have ended here.

      Ackshually it's very common if a game is good (or shit) that people post either in leddit or Ganker to talk about it and/or air out their reviews, it is the reason why /vg/ was made a decade ago

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    we also don't talk about valorant or BG3 or any of the other moronic zoomer games.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a BG3 thread almost daily, you're blind anon.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mostly coomer pics, no one really talks about the game

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick battle royale and anything resembling the genre.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not a battle royale
      why would you post so confidently about something you know nothing about

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t care, frick battle royales.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you respawn when you die
      >battle royale
      Are you moronic?

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All chinks.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PC fps with controller aim assist

    into the trash it goes

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only people that play are zoomer normalgays

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like chink knock-off of some sterilized AAA garbage.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AIslop
    >Aim assist for controllerspastics
    >Generic battle royale
    >MUH DESTRUCTION one fricking gimmick

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >online dropped by 50% within a month
    Yeah, this game will be dead pretty soon. A matter of months even. Because making f2p game purely for tryhards and premades was a horrible idea but devs for some reason decided to go with it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >uhhhh fps games are dead this ones whatever me no like
      wtf do you fricking pos like and who really cares. go back and play your fricking zombies. you morons have ruined by whining in every game that ever comes out. who fricking cares you see how many people are playing it? say the same thing about overwatch. OH. nothing. It's fun (the finals is) and ctf with holding the fort for a minute or two with 3 teams versus is pretty damn fun I think. i dont see nothing bad about it except for the controller aim assist. that shit doesn't work far away does it cause you could.. pick someone off wtf. anyway i played it some and it seems ok

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i used to post most of the finals threads on this board, just wanted to say this game turned to shit and the devs are moronic, every 2nd/3rd game in ranked is a cheater. Wont be playing it until they fix their dogshit anticheat

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every 2nd/3rd game in ranked is a cheater
      They aren't cheating they're just using a controller. Aim assist is so strong it tracks through walls in this game.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey moron, does controller aim assist let you shoot through shields?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            moron confirmed

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      30% of players are cheating according to most conservative numbers. However this doesn't include people using stuff like Xim or ReWASD. ReWASD which recently had a GitHub release and people figured out ways to spoof the free trial.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a free game, those numbers don't mean shit

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another BRslop
    Why should I care?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not a br, that's why

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are a moron

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >winner-take-all elimination shooter
        It's a battle royale.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Capture the Flag Extra Steps Edition is a BR
          I want alphieBlack folk to leave

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          this just doesn't happen in the game
          you collect money
          you just defend points and kill people to get money and turn it in
          you don't join a game, die, and get put into the menu
          you don't win by hiding forever and killing the last person

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just admit you fricked up and move on, moron

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          959696875th pubg/gaypex/gaynite clone. I'm good

          >another BRslop
          Why should I care?

          I don’t care, frick battle royales.

          Frick battle royale and anything resembling the genre.

          Its capture the flag with 3 teams of 3 people and you respawn. How is the frick that a battle royale?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you responding to shitposters?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              to scratch the surface and make sure people aren't actually that dumb

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              why the frick are there so..ooooo many of them tho? frick these corporate wienersuckers. I played the beta and thought it was fun and watched it. seen its free now and want to get into it. between it and VR i dont know what to do, but ill probably put some time into it. I hate people who dont like action games with multi-fricking-player in it. especially fun modes like ctf. this is nothing like a BR and those are strictly 1 versus everyone. they just are mad its like their favorite dumb ass game modes like tdm or dm or zombies or co-op versus bots. its all any of them (shills) have to say.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why the frick are there so..ooooo many of them tho?
                Do you know where the frick you are? Not only is it a popular game, but you NEED friends to play it. Of course its going to attract shitposters here, 90% of the people complaining about have never even played it

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                you dont need any damn friends. thats the only problem i see iwth it, is matchmaking. i like joining staying staying on my team and either sucking or getting better. frick unlocks.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Try not playing bank it where the endless double chinese light teams will lose 100% of the time instead of just 90% of the time

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't need friends
                >the matchmaking is dogshit
                having friends generally fixes that

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                yea so? remember bf2 and that list of top players they had? i played on a server with one of those guys one day. i rode around with him. all he would do is camp the planes, and jump in one and go around and dive bomb people over and over. thats all he done. you got a bunch of plane points from being with him.
                point is, without unlocks, who cares about friends?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >remember bf2
                no
                i feel more stupid reading your story, what point are you trying to make? you complained about matchmaking and how you don't need friends, but having friends lessens the impact of shitty matchmaking

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >random non-sequitur
                anon are you ok

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >3 teams
            4 teams and only one can win. Kinda like apex. Or fornite trios. Or any other squad BR

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              *shoots you in the head*

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's two gamemodes one is 3 teams the other is 4 and both are variants of capture the flag.
              >only one can win
              Is that not like every multiplayer fps ever made???

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't reply to corpses, you may catch a disease anon

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                most team FPSes are two teams only, only one genre breaks with that pattern consistently

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >most FPSes are only this
                >the ones that aren't don't count
                >only unrelated genre breaks that convention """"consistently"""" so X game must be that genre
                Why does every thread have to be littered with bad faith israeliteposting? It's objectively not a BR: no shrinking map & no scrounging to make your kit. Everyone has been wrong on the internet before. Just take the L instead of burying the thread in your insecurities.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is just being obtuse, it clearly takes a lot of its DNA from BRs
            >multiple team free for all
            >large scale map with emphasis and traversing large swathes of land to get to battle
            >team wipes integral to play

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >man who has only seen boss baby.png

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it clearly takes a lot of its DNA from BRs

              >You spawn with all your gear
              >You can't even pick up weapons on the ground
              >You fully heal over time so there's no health scavenging
              >You have unlimited ammo so no ammo scavenging
              >The goal of the game is not 'be the last man alive'

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The maps are pretty small brah, you can get across them in 3-4 minutes

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              team free for all
              Bro it's like 9 people, 12 at most
              scale map with emphasis and traversing large swathes of land to get to battle
              the maps aren't that big
              >>team wipes integral to play
              welcome to arena fps

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steam player numbers are unreliable and are only used to shill mediocre games.

    See: Baldur’s Gate 3

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's already infested with asiatic cheaters

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    959696875th pubg/gaypex/gaynite clone. I'm good

  18. 4 months ago
    PunishedBreakroom

    Isn't/wasn't it free?

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    game runs like ass after last update

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once it came out of open beta 4chin collectively decided that popular = bad
    Also you can just pick up this game like another shooter. You absolutely need teammates to play with. Playing this solo is quite possibly the worst experience in gaming ive ever had

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      *cant

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Once it came out of open beta 4chin collectively decided that popular = bad
      Ganker was shitting on it in the beta too lol wtf are you on

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I pnly saw people who pbviously didnt actually play it shitting on it. Its really easy to spot

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Once it came out of open beta
      That's also when the cranked the aim assist up to 11.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isnt that game just AI slop?

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aim assist
    i will never touch fps game with that garbage

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    is ok, end of round music is pretty good, especially with a last second steal, but none of the weapons really feel "right" to me

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      the last second steal is easily the worst mechanic in the game. the timer should reset to 15 seconds or so if it gets swapped under that time. also the timer should stop at 0.1 seconds if someone is stealing currently

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw can't tell of ttk is slightly too high or if I just suck at aiming

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep buying those skins and battlepasses goyim. Embark needs you paypigs to speed up development time of their next cash grab, Arc Raiders

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any political drama that can be mined from this game? If not, then you have your answer as to why no one here cares.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI voices?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing burger. No one actually cares about video game voice actors.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        my only gripe about that is that they don't make a large amount of reactive voice lines

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's not political

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like some absolute (excuse the word) slop

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it seems to be the point to look like it's generic and glossy. it's a virtual reality game show about killing people, exploding shit, and winning cash prizes. i think having ai voices adds to the corporate clean feel, where they only care about spending as little money as possible to create the entertainment of the future

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's a virtual reality game
        I do like that for once the violent game show isn't actually some dystopian entertainment (unless I missed something)

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's supposed to look like shit
        I mean I'm not just talking about the artstyle though that is a big part of it
        Everything about it just screams "this was made in a meeting room by a committee of monkeys in suits to appeal to as many people as possible"

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody on Ganker cares about normiecore games

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain the endless seething about totk and souls games then

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >teammate has defib
    >never uses it

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >expecting social/physical cripples to talk about MP games
    everybody here is stuck in the 00s where dogshit like Dues Ex still manages to get top 10. why do you expect any discussion with morons that think scripted events and exploitable AI is the peak of video games?

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    80% of them are koreans.

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Have a grenade launcher
    >Little midget homosexual gets on my ass with a sword
    >Teammates won't shoot him off

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      the classic 'dude walks through the entire team to melee (You) in particular, only dies after accomplishing his task' phenomenon
      a staple in tf2 when you're playing medic

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        God it happens so much in every game. I look down a hallway on my left and see my team mate holding it. Look away feeling safe, turn back and the team mate is now on the other side of the map and an enemy has ran right through to shoot me.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >play with sword since it seems so powerful
      >get mown down the instant the enemy catch sight of me
      can't win bros

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        just go invisible and wait around for chaos to start happening so you can move in

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >autists won't talk about it because it uses AI and has no goofy characters to latch onto
    >communities won't form around it because it has no truly casual play like battlefield or team fortress

    it sure do be fun though

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE ADD A MORE CASUAL MODE PLEAAASEEE I REALLY SUCK IT'S FUN BUT I'M TOO SHIT PLEASE I NEED CASUAL

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what casual mode are you thinking of? i don't really understand what you want

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's too much pressure on a single player because the teams are so small and there's not many opponents, larger team sizes would massively reduce the need for an individual to preform really well.
        I was thinking an 8v8 mode would work, but I don't see it happening, I think the reason they went with teams of only 3 is because of the fact there are only three classes.
        I find bank it to be a lot easier than cashout, even if I'm not great I can still kill a few dudes and sometimes get a crafty/sneaking bank off.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          okay I see what you mean. yeah i dunno how well that would work considering how fast you can already die with only 3 people shooting at you, but if you have even more people on your own team for them to worry about, maybe it's not a big deal. the other problem would probably be grenade/trap/explosion spam from one team

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You already have bank it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You already have bank it

      This. Bank It is better than tournament anyway. Why? Because you spend more time playing the game and engaging in combat, than waiting to respawn or waiting between matches.

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    steam numbers are fake news

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    game is an unbalanced mess and full of hackers, its unplayable as of now

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Popular game
    >Free to play
    >Competitive angle
    >LITERALLY free to play
    >FPS
    you're telling me the game isn't full of slavic and chinese Black folk cheating their fricking eyes out?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      it supposedly is, i didn't notice but haven't played that much
      but it was bad enough with people complaining about chinese hackers that the devs said "no, we will NOT region lock the game"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        why are they always like this?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          who, the hackers or the devs who refuse to acknowledge that 90% of all hackers come from the same two regions?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      China cheaters are blatant as frick about it. Everyone else tries to hide their cheats or maybe just a touch of soft aimbot and no recoil.
      FPS games are dead.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >play a game, any game
        >see chinese name
        >report for cheating

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the first F2P multiplayer shooter that i think i've ever actually gotten into. I suck ass at it so that doesn't help, but what does help is that it's not a battle royale. Never in my life have i been happier to see a gaming trend die than that. Yes i know Fortnite is still the McDonalds of vidya and will probably never go away, but that stretch a few years back where it felt like we got new BR games shilled every 3-6 months was hell. It was the first time in my life that a vidya trend had me thinking "i'm getting too old for this shit"

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is anyone gonna post a single screenshot of the fricking thing or what?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good point, sorry, haven't taken any screenshots during the fast-paced gameplay.

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    this game is infuriating solo because teamplay is baked into it so hard, you need to play light if you want to play alone
    >fighting for your life on the point
    >there's just too much, you need a little more help
    >die
    >light is playing for frags as sniper a mile away

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    theres really not much to talk, heavies are OP, cloak is the only way to play light and medium healing + heavys are the most OP combo in the game

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      there's not much to talk about the unlocks either. it doesn't take long to unlock the main weapons/equipment for free, then that's it
      I actually wonder how much money they are making considering there is almost zero reason to get 'battle passes' other than unlocking cosmetics faster

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        on top of that the cosmetics are ugly shit, like 95% of the people i played with use the default or free unlocks, it doesnt help that you cant make a feminine female or a manly male who the frick likes those potato androgynous bodies

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          100%, the cosmetics are not even nice to look at or actually interesting/desirable, it's like they were designed by boring people
          and yeah, the most annoying part of the game is the characters with androgynous fridge-bodies and androgynous face options
          disgusting

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably all on /vg/
    What's more amazing to me is all the top wishlisted games Ganker never talks about

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      People here would rather screech about something they dislike than talk about things they like which causes hatethreads to bump more often than appreciation threads. I'll leave you to infer the motivations behind that dynamic.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Make thread about game
        >"nice shill thread Black person"
        >404 in 5 minutes, 10 posts tops unless you carefully tend to it (read: samegay)
        >make thread shitting on game
        >437 posts and 129 images omitted.

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i guess this game explains a big reason why dice when to shit

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it makes friendless loser on Ganker mad?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        GOOD MORNING SIR

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seething

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            REDEEM THE BLOODY SEETHE SIR

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you didn't understand what he was saying and then tried to insult him lol

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, my hope for arc raiders is 0 now.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played it. It's really, really barebones and boring. And your starting weapons aren't fun to use.

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's talked about everywhere but Ganker, and a lot of the anons here have zero clue what it is. These threads have been hilarious, what with all the people trying to say it's a clone of apex or it's a battle royale or that it's a battlefield clone, as they barely glance at it and try to find something to be mad about it.

    It's somewhat of a shame, because here's a shooter trying to push the boundaries with tech that has had its potential unrealized for years and made it something fun that doesn't immediately fall into the same sloppy fads as everything else, but they're so addicted to ragebait and auto-complaining about anything with more than 50 players that they're passing this over needlessly.

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bots. Remember BG3? Me neither.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      well you didn't play it, that's why you don't remember it

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    chinkgame

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Potententially its fun and i had fun in beta but theres so much that has to line up for it to be fun.
    Its not fun when one or 2 teams starts a man down, its not fun with hackers, its not fun when some tryhard guys cheeseing and probably hacking.
    Finding that game where none of those are happening is 1 game in 20. Ita not worth suffering though 19 games of bullshit for the hope maybe the next game will be fun.
    In beta it was 1/3 games were fun cause everyones a stupid noob just trying things out.

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've only seen two hackers in my 20hrs of playtime, both were chinese names

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Multiplayer games are boring. Everyone understands this. There is not much to say about a game with no story.

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What gives?
    It's dogshit without a 3 stack
    The balancing is awful
    It's dogshit without a 3 stack
    The unlock system takes way too long
    It's dogshit without a 3 stack
    The BP levels stupidly slow
    It's dogshit without a 3 stack
    It's full of hackers and incredibly try-hard wanna-be-esports players like every FPS is nowdays
    It's dogshit without a 3 stack
    The aimassist is so through the roof on controller that they might as well be literally aimbotting
    And finally the most important part:
    >It's dogshit without a 3 stack

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    people are just enjoying the game instead of shitposting about it on Ganker

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is there to discuss? it's just another free multiplayer shooter. I guess I'll take this time to thank the devs for not spending their ad money here. those guys are alright I guess.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right? There's absolutely nothing here.

      If you liked battle royales wouldnt you already be playing a more established better one?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        what do you get out of acting like a moron?

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nexon
    >terrible mechanics
    Why would any self-respecting white man play this?

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the point of the store or battle passes?
    Do they even make any money from this game?

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    NERF HEAVY
    NERF HEAVY
    NERF HEAVY
    NERF HEAVY

    GOD, I LOVE LOSING CLUTCH 1V1S IN A SCENARIO WHERE I'M A MEDIUM AND NEED TO KILL THE HEAVY TO REVIVE MY TEAM, BUT MY GUNS FRICKING SUCK SO THE HEAVY WILL BEAT ME 8/10 TIMES BECAUSE HE HAS MORE HEALTH

    FRICK YEAH

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably only chinks play that generic slop.

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably most fun I've had in a multiplayer shooter since BF4, maybe because some of the gunplay feels similar and actually decent.

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never even heard of this game until I went looking for random PC part benchmarks.

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinkbot shills

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >generic shooter slop with $10 ~~*'micro' transaction*~~ for the most uninspired alien costume
    what is there to talk about

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i guess they're playing it instead of talking about it.

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    damn this place is really useless to talk about anything at least if you want to shit on it try it before talking about it, no wonder this board is the same threads over and over probably created by chatgpt bots

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick modern crossplay aimbot assist fps games and frick the Black person devs that implement it.

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