Like what was it, they had a reveal like 1 years ago and everyone hated what they saw. So at that point the prob did some actual focus groups and found out that everyone hate the very concept but were to far in to change anything?
I don't understand how companies let shit like this happen. Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance. Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
Modern devs genuinely don't think any idea they have can be bad, they think that if their product fails it's because of the consumer, not because they had a shit product. They think that there's a market for everything, and if they just push hard enough and throw a large enough budget at their product it will succeed.
That's why they get mad at "gamers" or "white men" or whatever when their products inevitably fail. They don't even consider the possibility that it could be their fault, so it has to be everyone else's.
absolutely. I'm sure they're aware of every other game/studio failing but these idiots think their product will be different. either that or they simply want to recoup costs and pass the bill to us
I don't understand how companies let shit like this happen. Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance. Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
The larger the ship, the slower it turns. The larger the company, the slower it can adjust. Decisions going into making these get made years before release. The company has reports that looter shooter in-game stores make X dollars and the game costs X-1 to make.
When I worked my first real job I realized how horribly inept the administration was at most places. They fall upwards and believe their feet don't touch the ground.
i think there's something else going on if you know what i mean. it's like that at every single company you go to, something else is happening behind the curtains
If only it were the israelites, anon. I've worked in Japanese firms, majority women offices, Filipino majority warehouses, and companies with exclusively white.
Humans do not know how to run a business. The scale varies, but from large to small, companies are needlessly incompetent
The devs know, they can't do shit. You think the devs decide anything? It's the investors lol, they just want maximum money and look at Fortnite and stuff and say "make this"
Post the Lex Luthor entry again that reads exactly like it was written by a bitter feminist who's convinced herself she's a lesbian and hates men and not like Lex Luthor. Gets me every time.
>Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance.
Corporate mandate said Rocksteady had to make a looter shooter, so Rocksteady made a looter shooter. Corporate mandate likely also determined it should be about Suicide Squad, probably because it was seen as a direct competitor to Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy. Once a game publisher makes a decision, there's no going back unless THEY decide to cancel the game's development.
I used to work for WB games and just before I left they basically said they won't greenlight any projects that don't have a chance of making a billion dollars. That meant that games fell into the perpetual money making prison that is GAAS. They aren't satisfied with the ROI of standard single player games any more.
if that was real these people wouldnt have a job in the first place
companies dont give a shit if you worked on a flopped game, they just want work experience, doesnt matter if you did a bad job
>why would they care if the company they're working at goes out of business
who knows man
Huh? Have you seen Western game developers? They are fricking crybabies who whine on Twitter every time a new AAA game fails. They get paid $100k but act like an oppressed minority group when gamers make bad user reviews
You’re pretty fricking dumb, aren’t you?
they're fired immediately upon completion.
Most of the time they're fired before releasing the game
Huh? Have you seen Western game developers? They are fricking crybabies who whine on Twitter every time a new AAA game fails. They get paid $100k but act like an oppressed minority group when gamers make bad user reviews
It's usually the fault of the publishers and higher ups who have already invested too much time and money into development it's really hard to change directions or just drop it. When the company lays off a bunch of people they always come out and say how they knew how fricked up development was, but they were unable to do anything about it.
So many posts saying this, but it's not the case.
Yes, suits and publishers and investor boards are moronic, but if they give you a dogshit mandate you can still, if you have competent, talented devs who, very importantly, are actual fricking gamers and not normies and moronic women and outsourced shitslop companies, you can still make something that doesn't suck *complete* dick within that mandate.
The blame with this kind of shit today is not just suits and boards, the ground level devs are just as responsible and just as dogshit. No suit or investor gave a frick about the writing and dialogue or text in this game, they didn't have to sign off on lex luthor rimming wonder woman or pissing on the flash or whatever, that is your devs being woefully fricking bad because they have genuinely zero idea what the consumers actually want. They're taking a shit mandate and using it as a platform to spout their shit personal views and grievances and purposely annoy the consumers because they actively and vocally tell you constantly they do not like you or your hobbies.
At zero stage in any of this design did any person think what a consumer wanted and what would please them, they operate off the idea that "lol fornite battlepass and shit they'll pay for it anyway so we can do whatever we want". They deserve roped along with their investor board and ceos just as much
The whole "omg it's the suits and execs the poor widdle gamedevs would never!" shit was never anything more than astroturf from shills and the morons dumb enough to believe them. The vast majority of the industry at this point are normies, actual homosexuals, and swarthy greencards that actively hate the people that pay their salary. They just want to shift blame onto nebulous bureaucrats that conveniently have no names or connection to the game beyond surely existing somewhere in between Karen(Xi/Xir) writing the most dogshit narrative ever told and Bobby Kotick smoking stogies on his yacht. They can all get bent imo.
Some modern devs don't play the videogames they're creating and just show up to receive a paycheck.
The consultants the execs hire are moronic and just chase trends and push shit that actual consumers have no interest in.
Nobody wants to play another GAAS game when they're probably already investing time in 1 or 2.
management c**ts fail upwards
that's because most management don't actually come from their fields, they come from management/investment firms and they all know each other and support each other as candidates
>Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance. Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
You clearly have no idea how stupid upper management is. These people are so delusional and mentally moronic they believe their own lies. IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND IF I THINK ITS TRUE THEN IT MUST BE TRUE THERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE MUST SUFFER AN DO WHAT I SAY EVEN THO ITS BEYOND ILLOGICAL AND COSTING A COMPANY MILLIONS THEY'LL ALL GET FIRED BUT I WONT AND ILL GET A BONUS LOTS OF BONUS FOR BEING ON TIME AND THEN FIRING PEOPLE AND THEN SAVING THE COMPANY MONEY. And we'll do it all over again ill even get promoted to the board yay!
Like its unreal how these delusional frick ups ruin everything and demand everything be done on credit leeching as much money as possible. Throw massive hissyfits and blame everyone else learn nothing adn then double down on stupidity the next project. >clearly is wasn't progressive enough and the budget was too low >200m burned and 5 years later
REEEE WHY ARE PEOPLE SAYING OUR GAME IS GARBAGE I CANT BE WRONG THESE PEOPLE ARE FRICKING STUPID WHY ARE THE ECELEBS WE PAID 1M TO PLAY OUR GAME FOR A FEW HOURS NOT GETTING US MILIONS IN SALES. WHY IS EVERYONE ON YOUTUBE SAYING OUR GAME IS BAD AND MAKING 8 HOUR DETAILED VIDEOS WHY WITH MILLIONS OF VIEWS IN A MATTER OF DAYS. THIS CANT BE HAPPENING WE CANT BE WRONG.
It's an inside job 100%. WB wanted Rocksteady to go in a direction that they did not want to and so they deliberately made a terrible game where you metaphorically kill any chances of these heroes returning for potential future Rocksteady games.
This is secretly Rocksteady attempting to take down WB games as revenge and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Maybe, I know David Zaslav doesn't like them after their last failure. He has a hate bones for DC in general. And I don't blame him. After the failures of Blue Beatle, The Flash, Aquaman, etc I would want to cut all superhero content.
>i said so
Not how it works.
And i am not even him.
Why do you act like random strangers on internet, especially on Ganker magically care what you feel or think, are you really sure that you don't suffer from "terminal brainrot" yourself?
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Who asked you?
Seething schizo lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>u mad >no arguements
You have no right to call anybody moronic, homosexual.
>How fricking wrongthinker do you have to be to see that logo and start thinking about cum filled raped babies?
If everyone jumped off cliff would you too without thinking?
Why do you act like random strangers on internet, especially on Ganker magically care what you feel or think, are you really sure that you don't suffer from "terminal brainrot" yourself?
as much as I hate sweet baby, I'm pretty sure that logo is supposed to be a baby shaped around a candy
if you saw baby getting fricked in that logo I think you may be the one that has a weird feeling with a baby
They flaunt their crimes openly, you just ignore them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If I were to flaunt my crime to taunt society I would make it more epic by making it an ARG hinting on logo seems lame
besides it looks nothing like baby is getting fricked and it looks a lot more like a toilet, they are doing a horrible job at flaunting their crime even if your wishful thinking was real
3 months ago
Anonymous
a blind man has eye yet he does not see
3 months ago
Anonymous
sorry but I don't have a weird fantasy with babies to see everything as baby getting fricked
>as much as I hate sweet baby, I'm pretty sure that logo is supposed to be a baby shaped around a candy
Yes, thats right. Babies are just little yummy wummy pieces of candy that melt in your mouth anon!
> drive a truck of peace at high speed carefully through the crowd > tell the first responders and aid givers not to touch the dying because they have aids and they will catch it if they get blood on their hands
This shit might as well be the brand for "games you should not buy or play ever" from now on, the fact that the devs would even hire them means the game is fricked.
That's fine, but I don't understand why the investors/publishers are doing something they know isn't going to work. I don't mean 'be good'. Destiny, I mean 'make them money'.
I doubt they actually knew what they're doing. They literally live in a different world than us. All the woke movies/vidya that came out just show they only care about keeping "the message" perpetuated for that juicy ESG investment.
Look at all the Hollywood blockbusters that flopped in the past year, it's the same deal. The higher ups at these media companies have no idea what quality is or what the public wants or someone would have stepped in at some point during the creation of these projects. I'm sure it doesn't help that they employ almost nobody with actual writing talent anymore.
>Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
They dont give a shit.
Its just a job, you do best at your part if you like it, if not you just clock in, do your shit and take the paycheck for 10 years working on one shit game.
I mean if you earn 100k $ a year or more as a lead or menager, in your interest is that the game never comes out, 10 years = 1milion $, then you frick off from the company after it flops and look for another publisher to milk.
What you think?
The higher ups at WB have no fricking idea what video games even are, some number cruncher said live service makes money so they greenlit it.
When I worked my first real job I realized how horribly inept the administration was at most places. They fall upwards and believe their feet don't touch the ground.
i think there's something else going on if you know what i mean. it's like that at every single company you go to, something else is happening behind the curtains
It's not a grand conspiracy, just an organic result of the systems in place.
Investors ultimately run the show which inevitably means higher ups hired by investors will be people whose skill is buttering up and lying to investors not effectively running businesses.
Devs can't and don't do shit, they just code whatever the JIRA ticket says and get paid for it. It's just bad management, investors and gambling, otherwise known as "marketing"
American corporations are just echo chambers full of Yes Men. They have no fricking clue what people actually want and they get their information from other echo chambers of bots on social media. More than half of the users on social media are not human.
>spend a long time working on the game >publisher insists on a bunch of live service bullshit because they're moneymakers >game isn't really coming together but they've invested too much to scrap it all now >public reaction is lukewarm so delay it a bit >it's still not coming together but it's already been delayed and deadlines need to be met for investors
many such cases
Nobody wants to be the one to admit failure and close the project, so they keep going and get paid until it crashes, then they just try to have it forgotten and fail upwards if possible.
The responsibility is easily diluted and pointed at each others, like: >"we followed the paterns of very succesful games, but unfortunately these Rocksteady developer guys turned out to be incompetent and they made a shit game, even with all the effort we made to modernise them"
>pitch game idea >"uh hm this sounds okay maybe" >starts being developed >"actually this seems like a bad idea" >keeps being developed >"this is a bad idea" >everyone hates it when the teaser is shown >"this is a bad idea" >release game >it was a bad idea
Software engineer here, was in a company that needed to decide either to redesign their systems with modern tech or barely try to retrofit the old system.
All the tech said redesign since the old system was already retrofitted and there was already stuff lined up to fix it.
All the sycophants and "middle managers" said otherwise.
Guess what they went with?
3 years later they declared the adaptation a complete failure and said we had 6 months to completely redesign everything after the company lost 50% value, and I left.
In my workplace we got vital systems that depended on Internet Explorer and fricking Microsoft Silverlight until last year, and even when we finally did the switches and database migrations the administration was caught their pants down in a situation that everyone had seen coming for four fricking years.
Competence and meritocracy in hiring and promotion are memes.
SSKTJL is an incredible game, it’s not their fault that bigots and fascists have lied about it so aggressively. It’s a good thing that the government is taking steps to prevent the spread of misinformation online, you won’t be able to do this again.
Did you know forbes profile page for their majority owner doesn't mention this ownership on the page
https://www.forbes.com/profile/austin-russell/?sh=22f8b3a16aa8
I don't know if Forbes was ever a trustworthy rag but it's completely an advertisement now. Especially for Ganker shit where someone pays Forbes to write an article about them being a millionaire tech start-up and then uses that article to fleece people.
>Make literally every single mistake the Avengers game made
I don't understand this at all. Are people in the industry just genuinely fricking moronic?
And they continue to make mistakes. I don't think the reboot will fix anything either. I think Zaslav needs to cut his loses and focus on developing other entertainment. Leave the superhero stuff alone for a few decades. Maybe occasionally make a Batman movie, but that is it.
The funniest thing about this whole debacle with making DC movies is that by the time they maybe get their shit together with a decent start it's already too late.
Normies are tired of capes.
In fairness, we don't actually know what Whedon would've done for a DC project. Justice League was something already pretty far along when he was brought in like a troony surgeon to try to make it look like a pretty woman and appropriately succeeded in making a gross monstrosity
Granted I detest the frick's work, and that's not limited to film direction and scriptwriting(he's a jackass in comics too), but a movie that was wholely/mostly his like Avengers but DC, is something we haven't seen.
Thankfully likely never will now that Gunn's running the show. Those two are like puke and petroleum.
I think basically a successful live service game like Destiny is the biggest cash cow imaginable, so I understand why all the publishers are forcing people to make those kinds of games. However, the concept of such games is so repulsive initially that you need a sales pitch as great as "Halo but MMO made by the same people" to get over any skepticism. No one else has that, so these games are gonna keep failing until publishers learn
The problem is they see the cash cow, but approach it backwards. They think of the monetization and how the cash shop will work before they ever think about the setting or the core gameplay.
As the rest of the thread has highlighted, AAA game studios aren't directed by their devs, but by their shareholders and upper management. Imagine some greasy frick who's only ever worked as a manager and has zero experience (or interest) in vidya development has been put in charge of your studio. >So you guys make computer games? >Uhhh what's the most popular computer game right now? >Fort Night? Yeah, just copy that and we'll make BILLIONS
So now you have to appease this wrinkly fossil of a man who knows nothing about video games and will probably interfere with every little thing you do.
One day the meme of shareholders being out of touch old men is going to hit the wall when people realise it's out of touch 30 year olds who hit it big in their twenties and still think like normies.
Ty anon, I’ve been screaming this from the rooftops for the past few years. Has-been artists are the greatest threat to new creation. The 90s and 2000s of video games was almost entirely bankrolled by dudes in suits who’ve never touched a controller. Because they trusted some nerds in a basement to make a video game instead of pretending they knew what kids liked
Frank Zappa made this point about the music industry back in the 80's
You can see the exact same thing happening in the video game industry today
This
For a recent example, see this red flag that came up during an interview for the Saints Row reboot as it was in development: >Saints Row’s focus is, at least early in the game, going to focus on the material concerns of its young crew. These disaffected millennials turn to crime to, for instance, put food on their table, feel part of a community and pay off their student loans. Chief creative officer Jim Boone says that it’s, broadly, a “contemporary” millennial “power fantasy.”
The higher ups handling all the money weren't the ones coming up with this bullshit but the hip creatives.
If the upper management were just ambivalent old guys who are only interested in making money then SURELY by now they all would have realised that chasing these trends are a fool's errand. There hasn't been a single game/movie/anything that has succeeded because of wokeness. It only ever gets mountains of criticism. Yet they keep doing it and keep watching it all bomb.
The people making and directing this shit have to be true believers in this nonsense otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it.
the point was never actually making good content, it was to saturate the market with shitloads of it and set a level of precedent so that in the future people would be able to point at it and go "uhhhh no X has had that before, remember this?" with the benefit of time and hindsight maybe shifting critical opinion of earlier shit products
Those guys on twitter and here whose arguments are basically "BRO WHY ARE YOU MAD? IT'S LITERALLY CALLED KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE" always seem to assume that people bought it, played it, then stopped playing it because they killed a justice league member, instead of realizing that they're arguing against people who didn't buy it because of that reason.
its just another case of everyone dancing around the elephant in the room, which is, the writing is fricking dog shit. because they're all buddies and they circle the wagons for each other.
It's an inside job 100%. WB wanted Rocksteady to go in a direction that they did not want to and so they deliberately made a terrible game where you metaphorically kill any chances of these heroes returning for potential future Rocksteady games.
This is secretly Rocksteady attempting to take down WB games as revenge and you cannot convince me otherwise.
its just another case of everyone dancing around the elephant in the room, which is, the writing is fricking dog shit. because they're all buddies and they circle the wagons for each other.
Why do you nerds even care about comic book character sacrilege when time travel and multiverses are a thing? You have like one out of 99999999 universes where they get "disrespected" big whoop.
It's not worth pitching a fit over, especially considering things can always just be retconned/outright ignored, but this *is* in continuity with the Arkham games. It's just a really terrible way to continue that narrative.
It must be depressing, knowing that the product you worked to put out will be delivered right into the trash bin - like, sure, you're getting paid to make it, you gain experience as you go through the process, and in the end, you can put it on your resume.
but damn, all that work, and effort into creating something, only for people to mock it, laugh at it, insult it, and stomp it down into the garbage bin - they're probably observing the reception, and going 'well, time to start with the next season...'
that said, FO76 has reached like, season 14, or something? It's getting a map extension, even.
Maybe the writers would feel this attached to the game, but AAA titles are increasingly smushed together from he work of dozens of game studios from around the world that barely talk to each other.
FO76 is a full blown MMO, content expectations are much different there. Also Fallout sanbox but multiplayer is a much easier sell than some live service looter shooter bullshit even if it did start with a disastrous launch.
1 million percent fricked.
Does anyone today even give a fricking shit about Indi?
Do the people making this game even fricking know what it is?
Disney killed the brand by killing Indy's legacy and giving him his own Rey Skywalker. It's the same shit they pulled on Han Solo, except Indy didn't canonically die in the last movie. But he did die symbolically. Kill the brand, kill any spinoff media that may arise. Also, a first person game? What the frick? Why not make it an Uncharted clone? Indy was made for games like that. Fricking idiot developers.
I dunno why they even bothered trying to revive Indy. Harrison Ford is a mummy now and you're not going to replace him. They would've been better off just re-releasing the original films in theaters for an anniversary or something. That or just licensing it out and making things like video games where you don't have to have Harrison Ford attached.
No better than the last Wolfenstein (the one with BJ not the daughters) and probably much worse. Mind you I'm not some nazi simp because I desperately want an RO3 and I liked playing on both sides. They just aren't going to make a fun serial adventure game. After all, what's the plot beyond punch nazis and a great circle that is...a circle for some reason. I remember the old 3d Indie jones game (that I couldn't finish cuz I was a little kid afraid of an ice monster) being about Nebuchanezzar or some Sumerian or Babylonian interdimensional demon and it was some vaguely cold war plot but "le punch commies/punch nazis" wasn't the focus. It was the adventure and occult relics that was.
Have us go seek out some lost antedilluvian ruins and deal with some scheming kraut up to no good, sure. But if I want to just kill nazis then there's sniper elite.
It's seems so desparate that what was shown so far is pretty much >What if Wolfenstein but Indiana Jones
where the main selling point hinges on punching nazis. And yes, that does happen in the movies but man, it is such a low hanging fruit to reduce Indiana Jones down to that and hope people are simple enough to buy into it. You'd think they would sell you on an adventure instead on le epic whip takedowns. Of course they don't have a lot of other options because for the same reason they do this they also can't have Indy retrieve artefacts of other cultures while escaping some local death cult, which just begs the question again why they make a fricking Indiana Jones game.
I still fricking love Indy, but I have no faith any company right now will ever make another good game with him or with any other James Bond-esque character.
And not just that, who the actual frick wanted an FPS? Yes he shoots shit, but he hardly does it and will mostly use his fists or whip in fights. These companies scared all competent devs away ages ago and we're now REALLY feeling the effects of the most uncreative morons the world has to offer, being in charge of large companies. I hope it all crashes and burns. I'm saving so much fricking money roght now.
I just wanted another Tomb Raider-style Indiana Jones game, man. Even more so with that Tomb Raider remaster coming out. This industry can't get anything right.
It will be everything except the fact that it's shitty.
That said, They're trend chasing things literally 1 decade too late. They knew this was a failing option before development even started.
Is it just me or is literally everyone trying to make Harley the most insufferable and unlikable character in existence, in all mediums? Do people actually like girls like her, even other girls?
>Is it just me or is literally everyone trying to make Harley the most insufferable and unlikable character in existence, in all mediums?
Pretty much. It's a massive pissing contest at this point
Harley is like if a bunch of guys unironically enjoyed the "DAMAGED.....SOCIETY.....IM DA JOKAH BABY!!!!" version of Joker but women are too fricking stupid to see that.
>Do people actually like girls like her, even other girls?
I knew a chick who loved Harley. She was a psycho prostitute with no empathy who spent her entire time fricking random guys at raves and watching anime. She was straight up a misandrist and used everyone around her, to the point where everyone thought she was "super sweet" but she hated all of them and would talk tons of shit behind their back. She was also dysgenic as frick, she had a reverse chin and tons of health problems.
girls liked the idea of Harley because she's a sexy crazy clown girl who's basically the Joker's girlfriend so they decided to remove all those aspects about her for some reason.
I don’t care about disrespecting fictional characters and would have bought it just to laugh at the cringe, but then I saw the troony flag shit. Child abuse is evil and I will not tolerate it.
The worst part about this is that when Marvel and Sony unveil their dogshit Wolverine and Spider-Man games, the mouthbreathers will point to them as examples as how to do a capeshit game.
God I am so fricking tired of super slop. Thousands of years of human storytelling to draw upon and I have to see the same dozen buttholes in spandex over and over for my whole life? Frick super heroes. Give me something new, fricking go away, or at the very least adapt a property that I've never seen in vidya form
Should have followed Hyenas, cut their losses and joined the -ACK. Instead now they're either going to waste even more money and Avengers themselves into a slow painful death or, the preferable scenario, die and get forgotten quickly like Babylon's Fall.
I don't think I've ever seen a more visually nauseating game than Suicide Squad. I just can't see people playing it for more than hour before gouging their eyes out after enduring so much dophamine-addled vomit.
Why the FRICK would you make a game where you play as a big shark man that doesn't focus his combat around biting people's heads off? There's a million - better! - shooters I can play if I want to be a a big guy with a minigun. There's very few games where I can play as a giant shark guy who acts like a giant shark guy.
Hell, he could have even just been a discount Hulk and run into clobbering the shit out of people, with the bites as part of his attack sets, with the closest thing he has to a ranged weapon being the nearest heavy object or unfortunate mook he can get his hands on.
If he ever uses a minigun, it should be a one-time setpiece thing to make it special instead of just another day at the office.
As much as I find the Insomniac Spider-Man games to be very overproduced and on-the-nose in presentation, AAA to a fault, I can at least say they have gameplay which is very well suited to the character.
UI is fine and anyone griping on it is just grasping at straws because the rest of the game is good so you losers need to hyperfocus on absolutely nothing
>forbes layout
It is Paul isn't it. He is the biggest wiener guzzler in the industry. He is the shield destiny gays hide behind any time anything happens
they will just never be happy. they will never produce a game that launches and you can play it from start to finish and feel satisfied and complete. Not allowed anymore everything has to have DLC or some kind of neverending bullshit that no one asked for.
A great game is something that you can come back after years or even decades of not playing it and get a full and complete enjoyable experience, this is why a game like Arkham Asylum / City / Knight still holds up after all those years, and why Suicide squad will be forgotten in the dustbin of video games as no one will ever want to play this once it loses cultural relevance. Hell no one wants to play it now.
20 years from now I can re-install Arkham Knight and still get that tight as frick, polished and complete experience right out the gate. Frick, just sitting in the Menu in Knight and watching those up close shots of Batman's armor steaming with that great soundtrack just floods you with memories and gets you excited to play the game. Suicide squad and other games that go the GaaS route will never have this.
They threw away their entire identity to sell out for an audience that doesn't even exist. This game was never going to be Destiny. Suicide Squad as an IP isn't even interesting or renown, it had 2 shitty movies that everyone already forgot and now this garbage.
Arkhan knight had a fricking terrible PC launch. It's fixed now but Knight is not an example of a tight as frick polished experience. Even if you disregard the abysmal PC launch and the pretty buggy console releases(Gigabytes of patches/day 1 patches were relatively recent at the time so it was expected to b***h about them). One thing Knight never fulfilled one of it's major promises. The same promise Origins made. All of Batmans major villains are on the loose take them out. Most of the gallary of rouges get barely anything resembling a boss fight and their actual sidequest are haphazard. Fricking Hush who was set-up as a major antag on City gets taken out like it's nothing. Knight perhaps objectively is a great game now, but it was released when gaming sins were being normalised and it commited basically all of them. No one should forget that.
>20 years from now I can re-install Arkham Knight and still get that tight as frick, polished and complete experience right out the gate
Arkhan knight had a fricking terrible PC launch. It's fixed now but Knight is not an example of a tight as frick polished experience. Even if you disregard the abysmal PC launch and the pretty buggy console releases(Gigabytes of patches/day 1 patches were relatively recent at the time so it was expected to b***h about them). One thing Knight never fulfilled one of it's major promises. The same promise Origins made. All of Batmans major villains are on the loose take them out. Most of the gallary of rouges get barely anything resembling a boss fight and their actual sidequest are haphazard. Fricking Hush who was set-up as a major antag on City gets taken out like it's nothing. Knight perhaps objectively is a great game now, but it was released when gaming sins were being normalised and it commited basically all of them. No one should forget that.
>Knight perhaps objectively is a great game now
summarized that up for you
Is this at least fun to play now? I got it just before it was delisted for like a quid. I'm sure as shit not getting SS even when it's being given away free.
>Not allowed anymore everything has to have DLC or some kind of neverending bullshit that no one asked for.
I'd argue that City and Knight were two of the first major games that pedalled an absurd amount of dlc.
City wasn't *that* bad; from what I recall there were a few map packs + pre-order bonuses that got unlocked for free a few months after the fact anyway. Knight was a little nuts, though. Fricked up thing is, it all got released as a package deal later anyway for a much better price, especially accounting Steam sales into the mix; I just waited to buy it then.
They are not protective of the game, they just see every critical comment about the game as a personal attack because they've been coddled since childhood and they've never faced any real adversity in life.
I think there is some symbolism buried in how Rocksteady treated so poorly Batman (the character that helped them grow into a AAA studio)
Does Karen Harley represents the suits who forced them to make a trend chasing live service cancer and a defeated Batman getting his brains blown out like a rabid dog represents the old guard at Rocksteady, unable to do anything in front of the inevitable backslash and studio closure?
They aren't allowed to speak about internal conflicts or discussions. NDA prevents all of that. But it would be intriguing if the devs were trying to send out and SOS by telling the story in this way. Doubt anyone at rocksteady is that clever or has that much integrity.
They aren't allowed to speak about internal conflicts or discussions. NDA prevents all of that. But it would be intriguing if the devs were trying to send out and SOS by telling the story in this way. Doubt anyone at rocksteady is that clever or has that much integrity.
Nah, Batman's death was scripted by feminists and gays. In the tie-in comics his death was way more dignified though still shitty.
>looter shooter >12 years after this genre peaked with Borderlands 2 >after Gearbox failed to make another Borderlands people gave a shit about multiple times >going all in on multiplayer like CliffyB on Lawbreakers >pay no attention to that Avengers online superhero flop
12 fricking seasons!
They should have made a Justice League game instead, in the vein of the Arkham games. Make the heroes heroic, let them be good characters doing good things. Superman could have been fricking epic, of course you wouldn't want to use him too much. THe possibilities here would have been endless, but no we get a trash suicide squad junkie heroic homeless prostitutes game instead.
>Take something everybody loves >Shit all over it to prop up your own characters >Get confused as to why nobody likes what you made >Call anybody who openly criticizes you a bigot >Start new project >Take something everybody loves
Palworld isn't appropriation of a franchise by ideologically-motivated investors, it's a shameless rip-off of a popular genre *dressed up* as a shameless rip-off of a popular game franchise. The devs are so shameless and cynical in their desire to make a lot of money that it gives the entire affair a kind of Jack Sparrow pirate swagger.
>Take something everybody loves >Shit all over it to prop up your own characters >Get confused as to why nobody likes what you made >Call anybody who openly criticizes you a bigot >Start new project >Take something everybody loves
Is doing anything other than keeping your head down and going along to get along just incomprehensible to normies?
You probably rewrote your genetic code a few years ago so you could go to bars. It's just sad.
I don't get why make it against the Justice League. They could easily made a fictional island then go full Just Causeayhem+GTA V with Suicide Squad characters.
Because suits wanted Suicide Squad, devs wanted Justice League, now you might get both if they game isn't sunsetted before JL becomes playable in future seasons.
I agree though, they should have made the setting Bane's home island or something and have the Suicide Squad infiltrate that.
I don't get why make it against the Justice League. They could easily made a fictional island then go full Just Causeayhem+GTA V with Suicide Squad characters.
Yeah, Suicide Squad is great starting in small missions that end with a "worl-ending" threat, but starting with the fricking Suicide Squad defending earth against Brainiac invasion and Justice League is just straight up dumb.
Why did nobody bother making so many articles when Platinum Games released their shitty live service game? Why should this game receive different treatment? This is bullshit.
It was not the first time PG fricks up.
In fact already PG has more years of being a generally shitty developer than a good one
That game got ignored and hit EOS in record time. Rocksteady had never fricked up so much, and after 10 years without releasing any other game too
>it had a bad reception on announcing the game on development >had some praise for putting the Superman as the villain on first trailer >first gameplay trailer was attrocious with GaaS elements all over the place >'final trailer" was so badly received that they postponed to fix >4 months postponed and they haven't fixed shit, the only good thing people can say is that the game has MTX but it is not predatory like other companies
I hope Rocksteady dies, everyone that was good on this company died or already left.
This game's narratives problems (the actual gameplay problems are the same as every live-service gachashooter) are 90% down to it being in the Arkham continuity. I don't get why they did it. It doesn't serve the narrative of the overall series OR the game itself as a singular work; the seriousness of the setting means that any interesting opportunities for combat with these characters is replaced with guns (for the fricking trick Boomerang guy, come on!), and the deaths of the Justice League members have to be played in this po-faced, dull manner. Would have been much, much better in a Silver Age setting.
>yeah, there's a huge museum about all the stuff that happened in the Arkham games... in Metropolis >yeah, you infiltrate the Batcave, discover Robin's bloody mask and a hologram of Bruce explaining how to kill the rest of the JL... in Metropolis
>roadmap for the next 3 seasons
Would their be a case for a refund if they didn't make those? Obviously there are not gonna make 12 but they HAVE to make the 3 they announced right? It would be hilarious if not. Obviously season 1 was completed before launch, that Joker shit it ready to be launched at the press of a button, they are just holding back
You get the bare minimum put out to dodge lawsuits and then close up shop with an AI generated apology to all 3 members of the community still playing.
Those 4 (not 3) seasons will be released because they are already done. When the last delay was announced, some insiders talked about them having 1 years worth of post-release stuff ready to go.
But they are not putting any more money into this dumpster fire. If some future seasons aren't ready for release yet, they never will be.
OK, someone explain to me why companies keep hiring Sweet Baby as consultants, because ideology aside they don't seem to have a good track record for making games more profitable. Even if you're going down the "we care more about propaganda than making money" route, one assumes you'd actually want people to play the game, right?
You have to understand the vast majority of people doing this sort of shit exist purely in insanely insular echo chambers that do nothing, but affirm their opinions day in day out. They are usually genuinely shocked and appalled when the rest of the world informs them they're moronic and bad at their job. Many of them consider ruining IPs that the "Chuds" like to be the objective in and of itself.
For all it's faults this shithole is actually one of the farthest things from an echo chamber you'll get on the modern internet. Everyone is free to be as moronic as they please and post 300 copies of the same shill thread if they want.
Twitter and reddit are the same way, you just fear getting ratios and downvotes for unpopular opinions so you stick with unpopular people who agree with you. Everyone likes conformity, but you guys pretend you don't while actively seeking it from like minded people.
In those communitues downvotes mean the post is hidden can sometimes lead to enforce timeouts to limit posting frequency. There's the disadvantage that any moron can derail a thrrad with spam but there's the benefit that all moronation is from the userbase and not influenced by algorithm. Relative to others
Name somewhere where you'll find a greater diversity of opinion.
3 months ago
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Just because you don't get banned it doesn't mean that you aren't dogpiled if you have the "wrong" opinion or that Ganker doesn't share the same hivemind.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Getting dogpiled on gives you more attention and interaction than a mundane positive opinion. Unpopular opinions are promoted rather than demoted by something like downvotes.
It's the opposite of an echo chamber, for good or ill.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Unpopular opinions are promoted
No they aren't. Your "wrong" opinion isn't challenged, you just get a billion "have a nice day" replies, and even get reported >you've got a warning for starting a flame war"
The only difference between Ganker and Resetera is the janitors and mods being larguely indifferent.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's no argument I can make to you because you don't inhabit the same reality I do.
3 months ago
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unironically reddit >b-b-but in my strawmen arguments, reddit is like this and like that
nice spammed echo-chamber opinion
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's a very controversial opinion you have there.
Larry won't give your company money unless you hire his nepobaby "consultants" (aka pay them off, the same extortion grift SJW leaders use by threatening to tell their Twitterdrones to go attack you)
>by threatening to tell their Twitterdrones to go attack you
But it rarely has any tangible impact on sales, how the frick is this a threat? Oh no, a bunch of Simpsons avatars and K-pop preteens are going to tell me I'm problematic, ah well, Larry David says "problematic" shit all the time and he's one of the richest guys on Earth.
Want to know the best part? I already saw article about how game was "welcomed by players" because it have "mostly positive" reviews on Steam and have "lots of players, 12k at peak which is good number" and comments where people call it a turd and fans reply with stuff like "I'm not a sheep that calls game bad just because everyone say so, I actually played it and it's great".
Yes, it's flopped but as you can see, there are people who defend this and actually are going to pay for such shitty productions.
They're probably already preparing to shove 10 Brainiacs into a final season boss rush because they know this shit is cooked and if they don't, their lousy storyline will be forever incomplete, leaving the Arkhamverse in even smaller shambles than it currently already is.
How can you blame the devs working on a shit game that was force fed through a troony pedophile DEI globohomosexual company restricting them of what they can or can't do. Also hollywood israelites forcing them to use ugly people face scans so they had to just work with what they were given.
Anyone who is still working there after this is legit mentally lll and has no marketable skills.
>gives game a score of 6.5/10 >low player count worrying
People bought new battle passes for their regular live service games since most reviewers said the game sucked. It should be expected, not worrying.
>But the combat, oh, the combat.
>It’s very fun. That’s one of the things. The combat in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League can be extremely enjoyable. The action-packed gameplay is actually very engaging in practice, even if the insane UI looks terrible in YouTube videos. Once you sort it all out, once you master traversal, once you throw builds together, it starts humming. The combination of flight, grenades, melee and gunplay probably one-ups all the entire trio of Anthem, Avengers and Outriders fairly easily in terms of how it feels to kill things.
>>>It’s very fun. That’s one of the things. The combat in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League can be extremely enjoyable.
maybe don't make everyone look like a transexual abomination
what did they expect? nobody wants to play that shit
I bet someone unironically said “It’s fine, people love Superhero games, look at Spider-Man 2”
They had to have known
Like what was it, they had a reveal like 1 years ago and everyone hated what they saw. So at that point the prob did some actual focus groups and found out that everyone hate the very concept but were to far in to change anything?
Modern devs genuinely don't think any idea they have can be bad, they think that if their product fails it's because of the consumer, not because they had a shit product. They think that there's a market for everything, and if they just push hard enough and throw a large enough budget at their product it will succeed.
That's why they get mad at "gamers" or "white men" or whatever when their products inevitably fail. They don't even consider the possibility that it could be their fault, so it has to be everyone else's.
absolutely. I'm sure they're aware of every other game/studio failing but these idiots think their product will be different. either that or they simply want to recoup costs and pass the bill to us
I don't understand how companies let shit like this happen. Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance. Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
The larger the ship, the slower it turns. The larger the company, the slower it can adjust. Decisions going into making these get made years before release. The company has reports that looter shooter in-game stores make X dollars and the game costs X-1 to make.
When I worked my first real job I realized how horribly inept the administration was at most places. They fall upwards and believe their feet don't touch the ground.
i think there's something else going on if you know what i mean. it's like that at every single company you go to, something else is happening behind the curtains
Just say the word you want to say, anon. "They" already have you dead to rights anyways...
If only it were the israelites, anon. I've worked in Japanese firms, majority women offices, Filipino majority warehouses, and companies with exclusively white.
Humans do not know how to run a business. The scale varies, but from large to small, companies are needlessly incompetent
The devs know, they can't do shit. You think the devs decide anything? It's the investors lol, they just want maximum money and look at Fortnite and stuff and say "make this"
nothing will EVER beat fortnite in it's markability and longetivity, i don't know why old execs have trouble understanding this.
Post the Lex Luthor entry again that reads exactly like it was written by a bitter feminist who's convinced herself she's a lesbian and hates men and not like Lex Luthor. Gets me every time.
>Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance.
Corporate mandate said Rocksteady had to make a looter shooter, so Rocksteady made a looter shooter. Corporate mandate likely also determined it should be about Suicide Squad, probably because it was seen as a direct competitor to Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy. Once a game publisher makes a decision, there's no going back unless THEY decide to cancel the game's development.
I used to work for WB games and just before I left they basically said they won't greenlight any projects that don't have a chance of making a billion dollars. That meant that games fell into the perpetual money making prison that is GAAS. They aren't satisfied with the ROI of standard single player games any more.
The devs get paid to make the game why would they care about how the sales are? They already got their money.
If their game sells well, it guarantees a sequel for them to work on. It's job security.
Today's standard procedure is firing everyone after a project is finished.
Yeah but there's a thing called 'wanting to be hired by another company'.
Bankrupting your previous company prevents that from happening.
if that was real these people wouldnt have a job in the first place
companies dont give a shit if you worked on a flopped game, they just want work experience, doesnt matter if you did a bad job
Stop acting like you give a shit about devs job security. You probably shill AI
No it doesn't, gamedev is contract based and you can get axed at any time for any reason
SOP for devs is hopping after a couple years because salary growth post-hire a company is so stagnant.
They lost another 15 bucks when they did Batman dirty. I was gonna buy this crap on sale in 2 years but frick that shit
I imagine they want to keep their jobs
they're fired immediately upon completion.
Most of the time they're fired before releasing the game
>why would they care if the company they're working at goes out of business
who knows man
Huh? Have you seen Western game developers? They are fricking crybabies who whine on Twitter every time a new AAA game fails. They get paid $100k but act like an oppressed minority group when gamers make bad user reviews
You’re pretty fricking dumb, aren’t you?
>Who care about reputation
Blizzard moment
It's usually the fault of the publishers and higher ups who have already invested too much time and money into development it's really hard to change directions or just drop it. When the company lays off a bunch of people they always come out and say how they knew how fricked up development was, but they were unable to do anything about it.
So many posts saying this, but it's not the case.
Yes, suits and publishers and investor boards are moronic, but if they give you a dogshit mandate you can still, if you have competent, talented devs who, very importantly, are actual fricking gamers and not normies and moronic women and outsourced shitslop companies, you can still make something that doesn't suck *complete* dick within that mandate.
The blame with this kind of shit today is not just suits and boards, the ground level devs are just as responsible and just as dogshit. No suit or investor gave a frick about the writing and dialogue or text in this game, they didn't have to sign off on lex luthor rimming wonder woman or pissing on the flash or whatever, that is your devs being woefully fricking bad because they have genuinely zero idea what the consumers actually want. They're taking a shit mandate and using it as a platform to spout their shit personal views and grievances and purposely annoy the consumers because they actively and vocally tell you constantly they do not like you or your hobbies.
At zero stage in any of this design did any person think what a consumer wanted and what would please them, they operate off the idea that "lol fornite battlepass and shit they'll pay for it anyway so we can do whatever we want". They deserve roped along with their investor board and ceos just as much
The whole "omg it's the suits and execs the poor widdle gamedevs would never!" shit was never anything more than astroturf from shills and the morons dumb enough to believe them. The vast majority of the industry at this point are normies, actual homosexuals, and swarthy greencards that actively hate the people that pay their salary. They just want to shift blame onto nebulous bureaucrats that conveniently have no names or connection to the game beyond surely existing somewhere in between Karen(Xi/Xir) writing the most dogshit narrative ever told and Bobby Kotick smoking stogies on his yacht. They can all get bent imo.
There are real gamers in gamedev, but they're not making games because they're too busy playing during work hours
>nebulous bureaucrats that conveniently have no names or connection
Larry Fink
Some modern devs don't play the videogames they're creating and just show up to receive a paycheck.
The consultants the execs hire are moronic and just chase trends and push shit that actual consumers have no interest in.
Nobody wants to play another GAAS game when they're probably already investing time in 1 or 2.
management c**ts fail upwards
that's because most management don't actually come from their fields, they come from management/investment firms and they all know each other and support each other as candidates
its cause even negative experience is still experience. you managed a shit game out the door onto store shelves...that counts for something.
>Everybody knew halfway through development that this had no chance. Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
You clearly have no idea how stupid upper management is. These people are so delusional and mentally moronic they believe their own lies. IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND IF I THINK ITS TRUE THEN IT MUST BE TRUE THERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE MUST SUFFER AN DO WHAT I SAY EVEN THO ITS BEYOND ILLOGICAL AND COSTING A COMPANY MILLIONS THEY'LL ALL GET FIRED BUT I WONT AND ILL GET A BONUS LOTS OF BONUS FOR BEING ON TIME AND THEN FIRING PEOPLE AND THEN SAVING THE COMPANY MONEY. And we'll do it all over again ill even get promoted to the board yay!
Like its unreal how these delusional frick ups ruin everything and demand everything be done on credit leeching as much money as possible. Throw massive hissyfits and blame everyone else learn nothing adn then double down on stupidity the next project.
>clearly is wasn't progressive enough and the budget was too low
>200m burned and 5 years later
REEEE WHY ARE PEOPLE SAYING OUR GAME IS GARBAGE I CANT BE WRONG THESE PEOPLE ARE FRICKING STUPID WHY ARE THE ECELEBS WE PAID 1M TO PLAY OUR GAME FOR A FEW HOURS NOT GETTING US MILIONS IN SALES. WHY IS EVERYONE ON YOUTUBE SAYING OUR GAME IS BAD AND MAKING 8 HOUR DETAILED VIDEOS WHY WITH MILLIONS OF VIEWS IN A MATTER OF DAYS. THIS CANT BE HAPPENING WE CANT BE WRONG.
Abilene paradox (if we're being charitable)
It's an inside job 100%. WB wanted Rocksteady to go in a direction that they did not want to and so they deliberately made a terrible game where you metaphorically kill any chances of these heroes returning for potential future Rocksteady games.
This is secretly Rocksteady attempting to take down WB games as revenge and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Maybe, I know David Zaslav doesn't like them after their last failure. He has a hate bones for DC in general. And I don't blame him. After the failures of Blue Beatle, The Flash, Aquaman, etc I would want to cut all superhero content.
>This is secretly Rocksteady attempting to take down WB games as revenge
Define Rocksteady.
>game is so bad that some schizo believes it's an "inside job"
Anon, it was the companies that hired EL DULCE BAMBINO in the first place.
They knew what they were doing.
Sugary Newborn
>EL DULCE BAMBINO
kek I will call them like that from now on
How fricking schizoid do you have to be to see that logo and start thinking about cum filled raped babies?
pizzagate has been a thing since 2016, schizoids love it
>schizoid
Atheistic nuspeak for heretic.
Seething schizo lmao
>u mad
>no arguements
You have no right to call anybody moronic, homosexual.
>How fricking wrongthinker do you have to be to see that logo and start thinking about cum filled raped babies?
If everyone jumped off cliff would you too without thinking?
No, you moron. If the first thing to come to your mind when seeing that logo is child rape, you suffer from terminal brainrot
>i said so
Not how it works.
And i am not even him.
Why do you act like random strangers on internet, especially on Ganker magically care what you feel or think, are you really sure that you don't suffer from "terminal brainrot" yourself?
Who asked you?
this is what it looks like to me
>schizoid
It's called "jew-aware".
the symbol is basically a baby being used as a toilet
as much as I hate sweet baby, I'm pretty sure that logo is supposed to be a baby shaped around a candy
if you saw baby getting fricked in that logo I think you may be the one that has a weird feeling with a baby
>~~*supposed to*~~
either way it doesn't mean it looks like a baby is getting fricked, take meds
They flaunt their crimes openly, you just ignore them.
If I were to flaunt my crime to taunt society I would make it more epic by making it an ARG hinting on logo seems lame
besides it looks nothing like baby is getting fricked and it looks a lot more like a toilet, they are doing a horrible job at flaunting their crime even if your wishful thinking was real
a blind man has eye yet he does not see
sorry but I don't have a weird fantasy with babies to see everything as baby getting fricked
>as much as I hate sweet baby, I'm pretty sure that logo is supposed to be a baby shaped around a candy
Yes, thats right. Babies are just little yummy wummy pieces of candy that melt in your mouth anon!
> drive a truck of peace at high speed carefully through the crowd
> tell the first responders and aid givers not to touch the dying because they have aids and they will catch it if they get blood on their hands
This shit might as well be the brand for "games you should not buy or play ever" from now on, the fact that the devs would even hire them means the game is fricked.
The developers usually got no say in this. It's all on the decision of investors and upper managers. Devs just work and collect pay check.
That's fine, but I don't understand why the investors/publishers are doing something they know isn't going to work. I don't mean 'be good'. Destiny, I mean 'make them money'.
I doubt they actually knew what they're doing. They literally live in a different world than us. All the woke movies/vidya that came out just show they only care about keeping "the message" perpetuated for that juicy ESG investment.
Look at all the Hollywood blockbusters that flopped in the past year, it's the same deal. The higher ups at these media companies have no idea what quality is or what the public wants or someone would have stepped in at some point during the creation of these projects. I'm sure it doesn't help that they employ almost nobody with actual writing talent anymore.
>Like, are devs just perpetually lying to the publishers?
They dont give a shit.
Its just a job, you do best at your part if you like it, if not you just clock in, do your shit and take the paycheck for 10 years working on one shit game.
I mean if you earn 100k $ a year or more as a lead or menager, in your interest is that the game never comes out, 10 years = 1milion $, then you frick off from the company after it flops and look for another publisher to milk.
moron, I'm talking about the studio as a whole and it's higher ups, not like, the guy drawing concept art.
What you think?
The higher ups at WB have no fricking idea what video games even are, some number cruncher said live service makes money so they greenlit it.
>number cruncher
no lol
>Market Research says "Fort Night" is huuuge with the kids, what kind of IPs do we have to compete with it?
Cost fallacy, I guess. Same thing happened to Redfall. People knew it was shit and no one would play it, but they still released the game.
The Rocksteady devs and leadership quit ages ago to start a new company.
It's not a grand conspiracy, just an organic result of the systems in place.
Investors ultimately run the show which inevitably means higher ups hired by investors will be people whose skill is buttering up and lying to investors not effectively running businesses.
Devs can't and don't do shit, they just code whatever the JIRA ticket says and get paid for it. It's just bad management, investors and gambling, otherwise known as "marketing"
American corporations are just echo chambers full of Yes Men. They have no fricking clue what people actually want and they get their information from other echo chambers of bots on social media. More than half of the users on social media are not human.
>spend a long time working on the game
>publisher insists on a bunch of live service bullshit because they're moneymakers
>game isn't really coming together but they've invested too much to scrap it all now
>public reaction is lukewarm so delay it a bit
>it's still not coming together but it's already been delayed and deadlines need to be met for investors
many such cases
Nobody wants to be the one to admit failure and close the project, so they keep going and get paid until it crashes, then they just try to have it forgotten and fail upwards if possible.
The responsibility is easily diluted and pointed at each others, like:
>"we followed the paterns of very succesful games, but unfortunately these Rocksteady developer guys turned out to be incompetent and they made a shit game, even with all the effort we made to modernise them"
>pitch game idea
>"uh hm this sounds okay maybe"
>starts being developed
>"actually this seems like a bad idea"
>keeps being developed
>"this is a bad idea"
>everyone hates it when the teaser is shown
>"this is a bad idea"
>release game
>it was a bad idea
Software engineer here, was in a company that needed to decide either to redesign their systems with modern tech or barely try to retrofit the old system.
All the tech said redesign since the old system was already retrofitted and there was already stuff lined up to fix it.
All the sycophants and "middle managers" said otherwise.
Guess what they went with?
3 years later they declared the adaptation a complete failure and said we had 6 months to completely redesign everything after the company lost 50% value, and I left.
In my workplace we got vital systems that depended on Internet Explorer and fricking Microsoft Silverlight until last year, and even when we finally did the switches and database migrations the administration was caught their pants down in a situation that everyone had seen coming for four fricking years.
Competence and meritocracy in hiring and promotion are memes.
i heard that this game specifically is a 3 year rework of an older project
Trust Thermocline
SSKTJL is an incredible game, it’s not their fault that bigots and fascists have lied about it so aggressively. It’s a good thing that the government is taking steps to prevent the spread of misinformation online, you won’t be able to do this again.
How many fricking co-op looter shooters are they going to make?
In before the larping contrarians start leftypol posting.
It'll have at most, two more before they end support.
First post best post. This subject is starting to get stale. It's obviously a bad game. What is there to discuss?
>under 70 reviewer score on metacritic
everyone involved in this project better start putting their desk in a box lmao
People have work tomorrow, incel. Just wait until the weekend rolls around. 100k easy.
This game is now what I picture when I hear "slop"
aad thats a good thing
When this came out I was convinced it was the same game as Arkham Knights. Doesn't bode well.
what? no....you're kidding. it flopped? what the frick
>Worryingly
Forbes is on WB's payroll?
Did you know forbes profile page for their majority owner doesn't mention this ownership on the page
https://www.forbes.com/profile/austin-russell/?sh=22f8b3a16aa8
I don't know if Forbes was ever a trustworthy rag but it's completely an advertisement now. Especially for Ganker shit where someone pays Forbes to write an article about them being a millionaire tech start-up and then uses that article to fleece people.
>Make literally every single mistake the Avengers game made
I don't understand this at all. Are people in the industry just genuinely fricking moronic?
DC movies spent several billion dollars making literally every mistake Marvel made, including hiring Joss Whedon
And they continue to make mistakes. I don't think the reboot will fix anything either. I think Zaslav needs to cut his loses and focus on developing other entertainment. Leave the superhero stuff alone for a few decades. Maybe occasionally make a Batman movie, but that is it.
The funniest thing about this whole debacle with making DC movies is that by the time they maybe get their shit together with a decent start it's already too late.
Normies are tired of capes.
someone really needs to notice that Batman has printed money for sixty fricking years with no multiverse or crossover shit ever
Yeah, people love Batman. It's a sure win 90% of the time.
>no multiverse or crossover shit
Who wants to tell him?
In fairness, we don't actually know what Whedon would've done for a DC project. Justice League was something already pretty far along when he was brought in like a troony surgeon to try to make it look like a pretty woman and appropriately succeeded in making a gross monstrosity
Granted I detest the frick's work, and that's not limited to film direction and scriptwriting(he's a jackass in comics too), but a movie that was wholely/mostly his like Avengers but DC, is something we haven't seen.
Thankfully likely never will now that Gunn's running the show. Those two are like puke and petroleum.
Yes.
Huge budgets make people lazy and complacent.
I think basically a successful live service game like Destiny is the biggest cash cow imaginable, so I understand why all the publishers are forcing people to make those kinds of games. However, the concept of such games is so repulsive initially that you need a sales pitch as great as "Halo but MMO made by the same people" to get over any skepticism. No one else has that, so these games are gonna keep failing until publishers learn
The problem is they see the cash cow, but approach it backwards. They think of the monetization and how the cash shop will work before they ever think about the setting or the core gameplay.
Yeah that is a good point
GTA5 honestly is that kind of game now, but it wasn't really intended to be. And yeah I think Destiny developers just wanted to make a fun MMO
aww cute dogs
As the rest of the thread has highlighted, AAA game studios aren't directed by their devs, but by their shareholders and upper management. Imagine some greasy frick who's only ever worked as a manager and has zero experience (or interest) in vidya development has been put in charge of your studio.
>So you guys make computer games?
>Uhhh what's the most popular computer game right now?
>Fort Night? Yeah, just copy that and we'll make BILLIONS
So now you have to appease this wrinkly fossil of a man who knows nothing about video games and will probably interfere with every little thing you do.
This is also why the all-time classic games were all made by a bunch of dudes in a garage somewhere.
> but by their shareholders and upper management
Now try to convince us it was them who decided to put the troony flag in the game, not the devs
I'm sure it's both in that case. Upper management loves troony shit because it nets them ESG investment. Devs love it because they're ideologues.
Unironically both, the shareholders think if they appeal to most communities they can they can get more money, and devs do it because they're gays
Management hire the devs who put that shit in video games.
One day the meme of shareholders being out of touch old men is going to hit the wall when people realise it's out of touch 30 year olds who hit it big in their twenties and still think like normies.
Frank Zappa made this point about the music industry back in the 80's
You can see the exact same thing happening in the video game industry today
Ty anon, I’ve been screaming this from the rooftops for the past few years. Has-been artists are the greatest threat to new creation. The 90s and 2000s of video games was almost entirely bankrolled by dudes in suits who’ve never touched a controller. Because they trusted some nerds in a basement to make a video game instead of pretending they knew what kids liked
This
For a recent example, see this red flag that came up during an interview for the Saints Row reboot as it was in development:
>Saints Row’s focus is, at least early in the game, going to focus on the material concerns of its young crew. These disaffected millennials turn to crime to, for instance, put food on their table, feel part of a community and pay off their student loans. Chief creative officer Jim Boone says that it’s, broadly, a “contemporary” millennial “power fantasy.”
The higher ups handling all the money weren't the ones coming up with this bullshit but the hip creatives.
Finally, I've been saying this for years.
If the upper management were just ambivalent old guys who are only interested in making money then SURELY by now they all would have realised that chasing these trends are a fool's errand. There hasn't been a single game/movie/anything that has succeeded because of wokeness. It only ever gets mountains of criticism. Yet they keep doing it and keep watching it all bomb.
The people making and directing this shit have to be true believers in this nonsense otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it.
the point was never actually making good content, it was to saturate the market with shitloads of it and set a level of precedent so that in the future people would be able to point at it and go "uhhhh no X has had that before, remember this?" with the benefit of time and hindsight maybe shifting critical opinion of earlier shit products
And will start kicking people out once the game flopped to give himself a bonus and finally, dip.
>Are people moronic?
Yes.
General competency is a myth.
Human society is a rudderless ship manned by invalids.
Yeah.
The people making games now never played games, so everything is shit.
It's WORRYINGLY low!
Damn gamers I am so WORRIED about how many people are playing Capeshit 523 at any given time!!
Scary stuff!!!
Those guys on twitter and here whose arguments are basically "BRO WHY ARE YOU MAD? IT'S LITERALLY CALLED KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE" always seem to assume that people bought it, played it, then stopped playing it because they killed a justice league member, instead of realizing that they're arguing against people who didn't buy it because of that reason.
its just another case of everyone dancing around the elephant in the room, which is, the writing is fricking dog shit. because they're all buddies and they circle the wagons for each other.
Why do you nerds even care about comic book character sacrilege when time travel and multiverses are a thing? You have like one out of 99999999 universes where they get "disrespected" big whoop.
It's not worth pitching a fit over, especially considering things can always just be retconned/outright ignored, but this *is* in continuity with the Arkham games. It's just a really terrible way to continue that narrative.
don't worry it has time travel where everything will be undone. I liked DBZ's Android/Cell Saga because it had that premise.
(You)
Is Redfall completely dead now? I mean it was barely alive in the first place
It's dead
>coop shooter
>35 players
>70 dollary doos
lmao
Maybe if they had more black lesbians on the cover they could bump their player count up to 42?
What the actual frick is wrong with Arkane and Microsoft?
It'll shamble on for awhile longer so they don't have legal issues like most of these shit heap live service games that flop.
Kill the Justice League is going to kill the studio isn't it?
It must be depressing, knowing that the product you worked to put out will be delivered right into the trash bin - like, sure, you're getting paid to make it, you gain experience as you go through the process, and in the end, you can put it on your resume.
but damn, all that work, and effort into creating something, only for people to mock it, laugh at it, insult it, and stomp it down into the garbage bin - they're probably observing the reception, and going 'well, time to start with the next season...'
that said, FO76 has reached like, season 14, or something? It's getting a map extension, even.
Maybe the writers would feel this attached to the game, but AAA titles are increasingly smushed together from he work of dozens of game studios from around the world that barely talk to each other.
FO76 is a full blown MMO, content expectations are much different there. Also Fallout sanbox but multiplayer is a much easier sell than some live service looter shooter bullshit even if it did start with a disastrous launch.
It blows my mind that 10k people are willing to play this trash at any given time in the first place.
Some people don't read news or anything dude, it makes sense.
How many of those are the developers, QA testers etc.
same reason why some people think drinking cow piss will bless them, people are stupid
How fricked is this game? Why is Bethesda making a video game on an even more dead ip?
1 million percent fricked.
Does anyone today even give a fricking shit about Indi?
Do the people making this game even fricking know what it is?
Disney killed the brand by killing Indy's legacy and giving him his own Rey Skywalker. It's the same shit they pulled on Han Solo, except Indy didn't canonically die in the last movie. But he did die symbolically. Kill the brand, kill any spinoff media that may arise. Also, a first person game? What the frick? Why not make it an Uncharted clone? Indy was made for games like that. Fricking idiot developers.
In all fairness, I didn't like Crystal Skull either. I haven't liked Indy in a very long time.
Even Temple of Doom was dogshit, let's face it.
I dunno why they even bothered trying to revive Indy. Harrison Ford is a mummy now and you're not going to replace him. They would've been better off just re-releasing the original films in theaters for an anniversary or something. That or just licensing it out and making things like video games where you don't have to have Harrison Ford attached.
Danger hairs aside, Machine games can do decent work and IJ looks like a proper game and not a digital pyramid scheme.
Or have eyes
At most 100.
It has a much better premise than an unwanted online loot game. I think it will do decently.
No better than the last Wolfenstein (the one with BJ not the daughters) and probably much worse. Mind you I'm not some nazi simp because I desperately want an RO3 and I liked playing on both sides. They just aren't going to make a fun serial adventure game. After all, what's the plot beyond punch nazis and a great circle that is...a circle for some reason. I remember the old 3d Indie jones game (that I couldn't finish cuz I was a little kid afraid of an ice monster) being about Nebuchanezzar or some Sumerian or Babylonian interdimensional demon and it was some vaguely cold war plot but "le punch commies/punch nazis" wasn't the focus. It was the adventure and occult relics that was.
Have us go seek out some lost antedilluvian ruins and deal with some scheming kraut up to no good, sure. But if I want to just kill nazis then there's sniper elite.
>and the great circle
what an absolutely moronic title
>FPS Indy
>Wolfenstein reskin
>ultra-max pozzed studio
They dont want your dirty chud money, they seek a "modern audience" with "modern sensibilities"
>punch nazis
It'll sell like like hotcakes and lefties will jerk off over the member berries for a week.
Politically motivated types don't actually play games. It'll sell well if the game is good and poorly if the game is bad.
It's seems so desparate that what was shown so far is pretty much
>What if Wolfenstein but Indiana Jones
where the main selling point hinges on punching nazis. And yes, that does happen in the movies but man, it is such a low hanging fruit to reduce Indiana Jones down to that and hope people are simple enough to buy into it. You'd think they would sell you on an adventure instead on le epic whip takedowns. Of course they don't have a lot of other options because for the same reason they do this they also can't have Indy retrieve artefacts of other cultures while escaping some local death cult, which just begs the question again why they make a fricking Indiana Jones game.
I still fricking love Indy, but I have no faith any company right now will ever make another good game with him or with any other James Bond-esque character.
And not just that, who the actual frick wanted an FPS? Yes he shoots shit, but he hardly does it and will mostly use his fists or whip in fights. These companies scared all competent devs away ages ago and we're now REALLY feeling the effects of the most uncreative morons the world has to offer, being in charge of large companies. I hope it all crashes and burns. I'm saving so much fricking money roght now.
>game
I meant another product in general
I just wanted another Tomb Raider-style Indiana Jones game, man. Even more so with that Tomb Raider remaster coming out. This industry can't get anything right.
lel
Just watch them blame >superhero fatigue
instead of having the self awareness to realize that they just made a shitty game.
It will be everything except the fact that it's shitty.
That said, They're trend chasing things literally 1 decade too late. They knew this was a failing option before development even started.
Is it just me or is literally everyone trying to make Harley the most insufferable and unlikable character in existence, in all mediums? Do people actually like girls like her, even other girls?
>Is it just me or is literally everyone trying to make Harley the most insufferable and unlikable character in existence, in all mediums?
Pretty much. It's a massive pissing contest at this point
Harley is like if a bunch of guys unironically enjoyed the "DAMAGED.....SOCIETY.....IM DA JOKAH BABY!!!!" version of Joker but women are too fricking stupid to see that.
>Do people actually like girls like her, even other girls?
I knew a chick who loved Harley. She was a psycho prostitute with no empathy who spent her entire time fricking random guys at raves and watching anime. She was straight up a misandrist and used everyone around her, to the point where everyone thought she was "super sweet" but she hated all of them and would talk tons of shit behind their back. She was also dysgenic as frick, she had a reverse chin and tons of health problems.
girls liked the idea of Harley because she's a sexy crazy clown girl who's basically the Joker's girlfriend so they decided to remove all those aspects about her for some reason.
a suicide in sales
>suicide
>trans
???
pottery
>suicide Squad
>trans rights
>they are the bad guys and bad people
>that suicide rate
The lack of self awareness
Lucky if it gets three. $200+ million just went poof
>all time peak 13k
what is the console sales like?
I don’t care about disrespecting fictional characters and would have bought it just to laugh at the cringe, but then I saw the troony flag shit. Child abuse is evil and I will not tolerate it.
The worst part about this is that when Marvel and Sony unveil their dogshit Wolverine and Spider-Man games, the mouthbreathers will point to them as examples as how to do a capeshit game.
God I am so fricking tired of super slop. Thousands of years of human storytelling to draw upon and I have to see the same dozen buttholes in spandex over and over for my whole life? Frick super heroes. Give me something new, fricking go away, or at the very least adapt a property that I've never seen in vidya form
Imagine a video game adaptation of Blood Meridian or Book of the New Sun.
both of those books are reddit as frick
>adapt a property that I've never seen in vidya form
Like?
The Worm Ouroboros.
Haha, no.
Should have followed Hyenas, cut their losses and joined the -ACK. Instead now they're either going to waste even more money and Avengers themselves into a slow painful death or, the preferable scenario, die and get forgotten quickly like Babylon's Fall.
This is one of those games that looks like such shit I don't even want to see the trailers or gameplay to find out what it's actually like.
The neat part is that you don't even need to.
I guarantee the slop you're imagining is at least 90% correct.
I don't think I've ever seen a more visually nauseating game than Suicide Squad. I just can't see people playing it for more than hour before gouging their eyes out after enduring so much dophamine-addled vomit.
>semen meter low.jpg
This is apparently what modern devs consider "good UX"
history repeats itself
Picture on left actually looks better
>b..but you can turn it off
THEN WHY THE FRICK WAS IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
Why the FRICK would you make a game where you play as a big shark man that doesn't focus his combat around biting people's heads off? There's a million - better! - shooters I can play if I want to be a a big guy with a minigun. There's very few games where I can play as a giant shark guy who acts like a giant shark guy.
Hell, he could have even just been a discount Hulk and run into clobbering the shit out of people, with the bites as part of his attack sets, with the closest thing he has to a ranged weapon being the nearest heavy object or unfortunate mook he can get his hands on.
If he ever uses a minigun, it should be a one-time setpiece thing to make it special instead of just another day at the office.
As much as I find the Insomniac Spider-Man games to be very overproduced and on-the-nose in presentation, AAA to a fault, I can at least say they have gameplay which is very well suited to the character.
This. If the game was arkham style combat it would've sold 100 batrillion copies
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSTRUCTION!
UI is fine and anyone griping on it is just grasping at straws because the rest of the game is good so you losers need to hyperfocus on absolutely nothing
how is people still NOT bored of capeshit?
They are. This game started development 10 years ago.
I'm bored of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.
more like 12 minutes worth of content holy shit what terrible game
>forbes layout
It is Paul isn't it. He is the biggest wiener guzzler in the industry. He is the shield destiny gays hide behind any time anything happens
more people are playing skyrim right now than a game that came out a few days ago just fyi
they will just never be happy. they will never produce a game that launches and you can play it from start to finish and feel satisfied and complete. Not allowed anymore everything has to have DLC or some kind of neverending bullshit that no one asked for.
A great game is something that you can come back after years or even decades of not playing it and get a full and complete enjoyable experience, this is why a game like Arkham Asylum / City / Knight still holds up after all those years, and why Suicide squad will be forgotten in the dustbin of video games as no one will ever want to play this once it loses cultural relevance. Hell no one wants to play it now.
20 years from now I can re-install Arkham Knight and still get that tight as frick, polished and complete experience right out the gate. Frick, just sitting in the Menu in Knight and watching those up close shots of Batman's armor steaming with that great soundtrack just floods you with memories and gets you excited to play the game. Suicide squad and other games that go the GaaS route will never have this.
They threw away their entire identity to sell out for an audience that doesn't even exist. This game was never going to be Destiny. Suicide Squad as an IP isn't even interesting or renown, it had 2 shitty movies that everyone already forgot and now this garbage.
Well put. Shame that this is likely going to be the last thing Rocksteady ever makes but good devs never last
Arkhan knight had a fricking terrible PC launch. It's fixed now but Knight is not an example of a tight as frick polished experience. Even if you disregard the abysmal PC launch and the pretty buggy console releases(Gigabytes of patches/day 1 patches were relatively recent at the time so it was expected to b***h about them). One thing Knight never fulfilled one of it's major promises. The same promise Origins made. All of Batmans major villains are on the loose take them out. Most of the gallary of rouges get barely anything resembling a boss fight and their actual sidequest are haphazard. Fricking Hush who was set-up as a major antag on City gets taken out like it's nothing. Knight perhaps objectively is a great game now, but it was released when gaming sins were being normalised and it commited basically all of them. No one should forget that.
WB forced them to make this game, it's why the studio heads fricking quit.
>20 years from now I can re-install Arkham Knight and still get that tight as frick, polished and complete experience right out the gate
>Knight perhaps objectively is a great game now
summarized that up for you
A real summation would atleast include
>launched like shit with broken promises shit
Suicide Squad will be as remembered as Marvel's Avengers. lol
Is this at least fun to play now? I got it just before it was delisted for like a quid. I'm sure as shit not getting SS even when it's being given away free.
NTA but back in the free beta I enjoyed the combat but I didn't rate anything else about the game
when the free beta ended I had zero drive to buy it
>Arkham Knight
>full and complete experience right out of the gate
Apart from DLC side missions they hacked off from the main game.
>Not allowed anymore everything has to have DLC or some kind of neverending bullshit that no one asked for.
I'd argue that City and Knight were two of the first major games that pedalled an absurd amount of dlc.
City wasn't *that* bad; from what I recall there were a few map packs + pre-order bonuses that got unlocked for free a few months after the fact anyway. Knight was a little nuts, though. Fricked up thing is, it all got released as a package deal later anyway for a much better price, especially accounting Steam sales into the mix; I just waited to buy it then.
more like suicide squad: kill my game studio
If these people are just work for hire why are they melting down on Twitter? Why are they so protective of the shit they've taken?
same reason people are freaking out defending a game that they'll never play or even buy
They are not protective of the game, they just see every critical comment about the game as a personal attack because they've been coddled since childhood and they've never faced any real adversity in life.
I think there is some symbolism buried in how Rocksteady treated so poorly Batman (the character that helped them grow into a AAA studio)
Does Karen Harley represents the suits who forced them to make a trend chasing live service cancer and a defeated Batman getting his brains blown out like a rabid dog represents the old guard at Rocksteady, unable to do anything in front of the inevitable backslash and studio closure?
They aren't allowed to speak about internal conflicts or discussions. NDA prevents all of that. But it would be intriguing if the devs were trying to send out and SOS by telling the story in this way. Doubt anyone at rocksteady is that clever or has that much integrity.
Nah, Batman's death was scripted by feminists and gays. In the tie-in comics his death was way more dignified though still shitty.
Make the rich pay
>looter shooter
>12 years after this genre peaked with Borderlands 2
>after Gearbox failed to make another Borderlands people gave a shit about multiple times
>going all in on multiplayer like CliffyB on Lawbreakers
>pay no attention to that Avengers online superhero flop
12 fricking seasons!
They should have made a Justice League game instead, in the vein of the Arkham games. Make the heroes heroic, let them be good characters doing good things. Superman could have been fricking epic, of course you wouldn't want to use him too much. THe possibilities here would have been endless, but no we get a trash suicide squad junkie heroic homeless prostitutes game instead.
>Take something everybody loves
>Shit all over it to prop up your own characters
>Get confused as to why nobody likes what you made
>Call anybody who openly criticizes you a bigot
>Start new project
>Take something everybody loves
But enough about Palworld
Palworld doesn't shit on Pokemon, it improves upon it
Palworld isn't appropriation of a franchise by ideologically-motivated investors, it's a shameless rip-off of a popular genre *dressed up* as a shameless rip-off of a popular game franchise. The devs are so shameless and cynical in their desire to make a lot of money that it gives the entire affair a kind of Jack Sparrow pirate swagger.
It's like every western entertainment company is competing to see who can make the entertainment equivalent of Piss Christ or something.
you incels take this shit WAY too serious
Enjoy your syphilis
Is doing anything other than keeping your head down and going along to get along just incomprehensible to normies?
You probably rewrote your genetic code a few years ago so you could go to bars. It's just sad.
>Step 4: bankruptcy
>Step 5: a different Classic Franchise is back with new faces..
I was going to play this game but it's a 70$ game
Like Im sorry, I love shooter&looter but this shit doesnt look good enough for 70$
dont' worry it will be $20 in a steam sale sometime soon.
try humble bundle monthly in 2 months
>2 months
game might die before that...some of the loot looks fun enough but the combat is just meh
Why is a news outlet worrying about how well a game does?
it's under their games section. Black person
>why is a guy whose job it is to write about video games because he loves playing video games worrying about video games?
>Premium live service singleplayer with macro transactions
dcsisters... the chuds are making fun of our goty...
I don't get why make it against the Justice League. They could easily made a fictional island then go full Just Causeayhem+GTA V with Suicide Squad characters.
Because suits wanted Suicide Squad, devs wanted Justice League, now you might get both if they game isn't sunsetted before JL becomes playable in future seasons.
I agree though, they should have made the setting Bane's home island or something and have the Suicide Squad infiltrate that.
Yeah, Suicide Squad is great starting in small missions that end with a "worl-ending" threat, but starting with the fricking Suicide Squad defending earth against Brainiac invasion and Justice League is just straight up dumb.
Why did nobody bother making so many articles when Platinum Games released their shitty live service game? Why should this game receive different treatment? This is bullshit.
It was not the first time PG fricks up.
In fact already PG has more years of being a generally shitty developer than a good one
That game got ignored and hit EOS in record time. Rocksteady had never fricked up so much, and after 10 years without releasing any other game too
What company made Gotham Knights? Was that not Rocksteady?
>Was that not Rocksteady
Nope, French Canadians.
>it had a bad reception on announcing the game on development
>had some praise for putting the Superman as the villain on first trailer
>first gameplay trailer was attrocious with GaaS elements all over the place
>'final trailer" was so badly received that they postponed to fix
>4 months postponed and they haven't fixed shit, the only good thing people can say is that the game has MTX but it is not predatory like other companies
I hope Rocksteady dies, everyone that was good on this company died or already left.
>had some praise for putting the Superman as the villain on first trailer
Bruh, a lot of people are tired of the "Superman but evil" premise.
/Thread
How many AAA games from after 2020 actually pass this test?
Where's the rest of them? Did they not have the rights to aquaman and the ghost guy that gets beat up all the time?
why is a story game live service?
This game's narratives problems (the actual gameplay problems are the same as every live-service gachashooter) are 90% down to it being in the Arkham continuity. I don't get why they did it. It doesn't serve the narrative of the overall series OR the game itself as a singular work; the seriousness of the setting means that any interesting opportunities for combat with these characters is replaced with guns (for the fricking trick Boomerang guy, come on!), and the deaths of the Justice League members have to be played in this po-faced, dull manner. Would have been much, much better in a Silver Age setting.
Everything about the Arkham connection sucks
>yeah, there's a huge museum about all the stuff that happened in the Arkham games... in Metropolis
>yeah, you infiltrate the Batcave, discover Robin's bloody mask and a hologram of Bruce explaining how to kill the rest of the JL... in Metropolis
Go woke go broke
Sadly not true. BG3 broke the fairytale.
>roadmap for the next 3 seasons
Would their be a case for a refund if they didn't make those? Obviously there are not gonna make 12 but they HAVE to make the 3 they announced right? It would be hilarious if not. Obviously season 1 was completed before launch, that Joker shit it ready to be launched at the press of a button, they are just holding back
You get the bare minimum put out to dodge lawsuits and then close up shop with an AI generated apology to all 3 members of the community still playing.
Those 4 (not 3) seasons will be released because they are already done. When the last delay was announced, some insiders talked about them having 1 years worth of post-release stuff ready to go.
But they are not putting any more money into this dumpster fire. If some future seasons aren't ready for release yet, they never will be.
>Worryingly
Why? Is the person writing the article a stakeholder?
OK, someone explain to me why companies keep hiring Sweet Baby as consultants, because ideology aside they don't seem to have a good track record for making games more profitable. Even if you're going down the "we care more about propaganda than making money" route, one assumes you'd actually want people to play the game, right?
You have to understand the vast majority of people doing this sort of shit exist purely in insanely insular echo chambers that do nothing, but affirm their opinions day in day out. They are usually genuinely shocked and appalled when the rest of the world informs them they're moronic and bad at their job. Many of them consider ruining IPs that the "Chuds" like to be the objective in and of itself.
>exist purely in insanely insular echo chambers that do nothing, but affirm their opinions day in day out
so they're like a mirror image of here, huh?
Pretty much
For all it's faults this shithole is actually one of the farthest things from an echo chamber you'll get on the modern internet. Everyone is free to be as moronic as they please and post 300 copies of the same shill thread if they want.
Twitter and reddit are the same way, you just fear getting ratios and downvotes for unpopular opinions so you stick with unpopular people who agree with you. Everyone likes conformity, but you guys pretend you don't while actively seeking it from like minded people.
In those communitues downvotes mean the post is hidden can sometimes lead to enforce timeouts to limit posting frequency. There's the disadvantage that any moron can derail a thrrad with spam but there's the benefit that all moronation is from the userbase and not influenced by algorithm. Relative to others
are we pretending that oppressive moderation doesn't exist on those platforms?
kek
>one of the farthest things from an echo chamber you'll get on the modern internet.
Ahahahahaha
Name somewhere where you'll find a greater diversity of opinion.
Just because you don't get banned it doesn't mean that you aren't dogpiled if you have the "wrong" opinion or that Ganker doesn't share the same hivemind.
Getting dogpiled on gives you more attention and interaction than a mundane positive opinion. Unpopular opinions are promoted rather than demoted by something like downvotes.
It's the opposite of an echo chamber, for good or ill.
>Unpopular opinions are promoted
No they aren't. Your "wrong" opinion isn't challenged, you just get a billion "have a nice day" replies, and even get reported
>you've got a warning for starting a flame war"
The only difference between Ganker and Resetera is the janitors and mods being larguely indifferent.
There's no argument I can make to you because you don't inhabit the same reality I do.
unironically reddit
>b-b-but in my strawmen arguments, reddit is like this and like that
nice spammed echo-chamber opinion
That's a very controversial opinion you have there.
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Larry won't give your company money unless you hire his nepobaby "consultants" (aka pay them off, the same extortion grift SJW leaders use by threatening to tell their Twitterdrones to go attack you)
>by threatening to tell their Twitterdrones to go attack you
But it rarely has any tangible impact on sales, how the frick is this a threat? Oh no, a bunch of Simpsons avatars and K-pop preteens are going to tell me I'm problematic, ah well, Larry David says "problematic" shit all the time and he's one of the richest guys on Earth.
whats with all the wiggers confusing schizo and schizoid lately
Want to know the best part? I already saw article about how game was "welcomed by players" because it have "mostly positive" reviews on Steam and have "lots of players, 12k at peak which is good number" and comments where people call it a turd and fans reply with stuff like "I'm not a sheep that calls game bad just because everyone say so, I actually played it and it's great".
Yes, it's flopped but as you can see, there are people who defend this and actually are going to pay for such shitty productions.
They're probably already preparing to shove 10 Brainiacs into a final season boss rush because they know this shit is cooked and if they don't, their lousy storyline will be forever incomplete, leaving the Arkhamverse in even smaller shambles than it currently already is.
How can you blame the devs working on a shit game that was force fed through a troony pedophile DEI globohomosexual company restricting them of what they can or can't do. Also hollywood israelites forcing them to use ugly people face scans so they had to just work with what they were given.
Anyone who is still working there after this is legit mentally lll and has no marketable skills.
>are worryingly low
why is it worrying?
do you work for the company that made it?
>gives game a score of 6.5/10
>low player count worrying
People bought new battle passes for their regular live service games since most reviewers said the game sucked. It should be expected, not worrying.
>But the combat, oh, the combat.
>It’s very fun. That’s one of the things. The combat in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League can be extremely enjoyable. The action-packed gameplay is actually very engaging in practice, even if the insane UI looks terrible in YouTube videos. Once you sort it all out, once you master traversal, once you throw builds together, it starts humming. The combination of flight, grenades, melee and gunplay probably one-ups all the entire trio of Anthem, Avengers and Outriders fairly easily in terms of how it feels to kill things.
A shame most will never know.
>>>It’s very fun. That’s one of the things. The combat in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League can be extremely enjoyable.
maybe don't make everyone look like a transexual abomination
combat is better than destiny 2 and boarderlands despite similarities
Maybe if Valve adds more illegal fake positive reviews more people will play it?!
>2500 reviews for a AAA game
>70 Metacritic reviews
This is not the own you think it is hahahahahha
>genre-defying
What genre did it define and how?
I think rat killing coop game made for 100$ is more profitable than this shit.
>rat killing coop game
I forgot the new boss in old school runescape dropped. When I'm not sick ill go kill it
how about instead of killing the justice league the justice league kills all their villains? like permanently
STOP THE COUNT
@SWEETBABY INC SAVE US!!!
Couldn't even reach the lofty heights of Marvel's Avengers.
Lmao
Avengers flopped so that Suicide Squad could ACK.
> Suicide squad: the studio killed themselves
They should name themselves Rockbottom Studios after this, embarrasing.
>surveys show that no one wants GAAS, in any way shape or form? well frick you we'll do it anyway
GenX and millenials dont know how to make games.
Why is the scarlet speedster so fricking gray?
Le mind control
They also have an oddly low review count and mainly all positive. only ~1k when I checked Saturday and now at 2500.
They're going to revive the Justice League in a future update.
Mark my words.