That’s just how Unovan pokemon are. Unova wasn’t invaded by KANTOOO Pokemon meaning Unovan pokemon were allowed to flourish to the point of being the most meta-defining and consistent Pokémon.
Unova >went out of its way to distance itself from Kanto >gets to have the most new Pokémon ever >have survived powercrept the best to the point were some like Lando are essentially immune to powercreep >Gen 5 Pokémon even got to have a VGC meta all to themselves >fire starter gets the one if the best movepoool in the game even getting water coverage >grass starter gets one of the best abilities in the game >legends starter gets a special snowflake abilt ans a special snowflake signature move that sets up spikes for free
Johto >literally attached to Kanto >smallest amount of new Pokémon until Gen6 >pretty much defined solely by its shitmons and worhless baby Pokémon >absolute bodied by powercreep to the point where even Tyranitar, one of the former best Pokémon in the game, is now an RU shitmon and barely scraping by in VGC >aren’t even allowed to shine ingame because for every 1 johto pokemon there are 20 KANTOO Pokémon jumping out at you first >fire starter gets the one if the worst movepools in the game >grass starter gets one of the worst abilities in the game >Legends Starter gets Frisk in an open meta because frick you
unova really is pokemerica. most powerful region in the world, self-made, constantly seethed at by lesser beings. there's nowhere else i'd rather live.
Don't blame the Pokémon, blame the mechanics. With access to Clear Smog and Rage Powder, Amoongus sounds like a decent pick up front. The issue is that the games do not enforce a Sleep Clause and there are so few things that actually negate powder and specifically Sleep. Need more proof? Looked what happened to Dark Void, what two of the 4 terrains prevent (which is mostly irrelevant in formats where the terrains are not a byproduct of using a specific Pokémon), and to a certain extent how sleep worked in PLA.
If there was specifically a Sleep Clause, I think you would see a lot more Nuzzle/Discharge combos because this would make Paralysis the most consistent and useful status.
I don't play Smogon formats at all, let alone use Showdown. I am going off of what I experienced in early gen games to now, Stadium 1 & 2 as well as Colosseum had Sleep Clauses.
Sleep Clause is a very simple rule that could be added to battles in the Stadium games where you cannot have more than one Pokémon asleep on a team at one time.
Oh, that sounds like it would be a good rule in a metagame where it's 1v1 and you had to waste a turn waking up from sleep, and also the limit for sleeping wasn't 2-3 turns.
Sleep is just a flat out busted status. If you are put to sleep you should wake up when you take direct damage. there, now sleep can function as something you can use to get some free turns of switching out, setting up, getting a sub/screens up, etc. Exception to this obviously being Rest, which shouldn't change, hell you could even make a new condition for it called "deep sleep" similar to how we have poison/badly poisoned.
>still leaves you complete sitting duck for up to 3 turns when even a single turn is enough to lose you the game due to how hard everything hits now and how broken set up sweepers are >only E-train setter is a complete shitmon >there is no Misty surge user at all >the only Heal bell can’t get the move because it gets it by breeding and the Pokémon it would get it from are gone
Sleep has not been nerfed enough
Regenerator is such fricking cancer in both VGC and fanfic. Please fricking gut it. Even if Regenerator only activated once per battle it would still be insane
>playing VGC >gets spored >switch out hurr durr >hurr you spend a turn switching out >hurr I don’t understand action economy >hurr durr opponent gets 2 attacks and you only get 1 >opponent kills your other mon or the switch-in >hurr opponent suddenly starts snowballing
go be stupid somewhere else
Honestly Drowsy seems like it'd be a suitable replacement for sleep. >sometimes your Pokemon can't move >you take increased damage >affected by weather >certain moves erase the status
Seems like it could definitely add some layers to the game if it replaced sleep.
that's looking pretty sus
We need to switch out like the sussy Amoonguss
That’s just how Unovan pokemon are. Unova wasn’t invaded by KANTOOO Pokemon meaning Unovan pokemon were allowed to flourish to the point of being the most meta-defining and consistent Pokémon.
lol
It sounds funny but it’s weird how true it is
Unova
>went out of its way to distance itself from Kanto
>gets to have the most new Pokémon ever
>have survived powercrept the best to the point were some like Lando are essentially immune to powercreep
>Gen 5 Pokémon even got to have a VGC meta all to themselves
>fire starter gets the one if the best movepoool in the game even getting water coverage
>grass starter gets one of the best abilities in the game
>legends starter gets a special snowflake abilt ans a special snowflake signature move that sets up spikes for free
Johto
>literally attached to Kanto
>smallest amount of new Pokémon until Gen6
>pretty much defined solely by its shitmons and worhless baby Pokémon
>absolute bodied by powercreep to the point where even Tyranitar, one of the former best Pokémon in the game, is now an RU shitmon and barely scraping by in VGC
>aren’t even allowed to shine ingame because for every 1 johto pokemon there are 20 KANTOO Pokémon jumping out at you first
>fire starter gets the one if the worst movepools in the game
>grass starter gets one of the worst abilities in the game
>Legends Starter gets Frisk in an open meta because frick you
What does that tell you?
You are wrong. Cope.
Nah, i'm right, Arrest.
>Tyranitar
>barely scraping by in VGC
It's THE Sandstorm setter. Until Reg D came out it had super high usage.
tfw Borts don't even play unova let alone the rest of the games
Unova
>bad and not fun
Johto
>good and fun
>good and fun
Nuzlockers say otherwise
unova really is pokemerica. most powerful region in the world, self-made, constantly seethed at by lesser beings. there's nowhere else i'd rather live.
Don't blame the Pokémon, blame the mechanics. With access to Clear Smog and Rage Powder, Amoongus sounds like a decent pick up front. The issue is that the games do not enforce a Sleep Clause and there are so few things that actually negate powder and specifically Sleep. Need more proof? Looked what happened to Dark Void, what two of the 4 terrains prevent (which is mostly irrelevant in formats where the terrains are not a byproduct of using a specific Pokémon), and to a certain extent how sleep worked in PLA.
If there was specifically a Sleep Clause, I think you would see a lot more Nuzzle/Discharge combos because this would make Paralysis the most consistent and useful status.
Go back to smogon please.
I don't play Smogon formats at all, let alone use Showdown. I am going off of what I experienced in early gen games to now, Stadium 1 & 2 as well as Colosseum had Sleep Clauses.
What the frick is a sleep clause
Sleep Clause is a very simple rule that could be added to battles in the Stadium games where you cannot have more than one Pokémon asleep on a team at one time.
Oh, that sounds like it would be a good rule in a metagame where it's 1v1 and you had to waste a turn waking up from sleep, and also the limit for sleeping wasn't 2-3 turns.
Sleep is just a flat out busted status. If you are put to sleep you should wake up when you take direct damage. there, now sleep can function as something you can use to get some free turns of switching out, setting up, getting a sub/screens up, etc. Exception to this obviously being Rest, which shouldn't change, hell you could even make a new condition for it called "deep sleep" similar to how we have poison/badly poisoned.
Remember the Gen 5 sleep mechanics?
Sleep has been nerfed enough as is. A sleep clause isn't needed.
>Sleep has been nerfed enough as is.
Sleep moves were nerfed.
>still leaves you complete sitting duck for up to 3 turns when even a single turn is enough to lose you the game due to how hard everything hits now and how broken set up sweepers are
>only E-train setter is a complete shitmon
>there is no Misty surge user at all
>the only Heal bell can’t get the move because it gets it by breeding and the Pokémon it would get it from are gone
Sleep has not been nerfed enough
I wish they anti-sleep terrain to other Pokemon
G-Weezing always run the other abilities
Pincurchin is fricking shit
Post elo.
1600, with a team I cooked up in 20 minutes, I could go higher if I actually grinded and fixed my weakness to sun teams
first your adress.
Regenerator is such fricking cancer in both VGC and fanfic. Please fricking gut it. Even if Regenerator only activated once per battle it would still be insane
AMOGUS
There's a few pokemon that need to just be deleted. This thing is pretty far up the list.
>Prenis
if your penis looks like this i suggest you to go to an hospital
>playing VGC
>gets spored
>switch out hurr durr
>hurr you spend a turn switching out
>hurr I don’t understand action economy
>hurr durr opponent gets 2 attacks and you only get 1
>opponent kills your other mon or the switch-in
>hurr opponent suddenly starts snowballing
go be stupid somewhere else
>playing vgc
Could have stopped there, that's peak stupidity
Tapu Koko and Tapu Fini will save us
>*Gets Sludge Bombed*
>SUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS AMOGUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS
Honestly Drowsy seems like it'd be a suitable replacement for sleep.
>sometimes your Pokemon can't move
>you take increased damage
>affected by weather
>certain moves erase the status
Seems like it could definitely add some layers to the game if it replaced sleep.
>certain moves erase the status
not sure what they did in PLA but when you say this it makes complete sense that any sound move should wake up all sleeping pokemon on the field
Physical electric moves erased drowsy if I remember right. Also I agree sound based moves should wake up Pokemon, if not the turn of use the next one.
>ITT Smogtards cry about Sleep
I was doing tasks in electrical